1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: What do you mean biblical? 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 3: What he means this Old Testament? 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: brimstone coming down to the sky, rivers and seas starting 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: the birthquakes, volcanoes, r Duman's sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: passus parrying. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Something strange. Who you're gonna call ron An Aian. There's 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: a fatal flaw in any vehicle. I don't care whether 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: it's ev ic hydrogen gets pulled by a horse. I 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 2: don't care how if you if you got to take 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: your eyes off the road to find something radio, heat 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: or seat position, it's dangerous, that chir doctor. 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: I've called a couple of places to see if uh 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: putting a two speed transfer case and the wiring and 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: everything in it was feasible and have really had much success. 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Just thought i'd see what you thought. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think you bought the wrong vehicle. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of Roninanian, the Car Doctor. 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 5: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 5: the phone and call in the garage doors are open. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: But I am here to take your vault at eight 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: five five five nine hundred and now he Ronnie, Hello 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: and welcome, Oh god, Vincent Vincent Price, Tom, that's Vincent Price. 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: But the question is do you recognize the music? Well, 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: of course that's Ghostbusters, the first one. No, no, yeah, 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: the first one. But this piece, no, what is this from? 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Is this the Monsters? No? You know this was from 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: a movie with don Knots. Hold that ghost. No, mister Chicken. Yeah, 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the ghost of 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: mister Chicken. So the great don Knats. Boy, it's funny. 34 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: I was watching. I was watching an early episode of 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Three's Company a couple of days ago, and the one 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: where they introduced don Knots to the girls at the 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: was it the Eager Eagle Beagle or the Regal Beagle, 38 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: whatever it was, And they threw they threw drinks on 39 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: them because they didn't understand what he was talking about 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: when he said he was going to sleep beneath them. 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: And you know, probably too risque for tell, well, probably 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: probably tame for television. Today. We probably can't talk about 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: those kind of things. But good opening, Tom, thank you. 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Happy Halloween everybody, and trigger tree, trigger treats on my feet, 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: give me something good to eat. Let's let's go over 46 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: to the phones and get out of this dilemma. Let's 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: go over and talk to Jay in Los Angeles. O 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: five Toyota s Aquoia and some power issues. Jay, you're 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: on with the car doctor. How can I help? 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 6: Hey, holl are you? 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm good, sir? What's going on? 52 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: Well? 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 6: I have a two douzen inside tattle Sequoia that I 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 6: bought back in twenty twenty one. Okay, I bought it. 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 6: You know, I knew there was something wrong with it initially. 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 6: This isn't my daily driver, so you know when I 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 6: bought it, I took my scanceal. But it wouldn't turn 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 6: out the scandal until I bought it home. I would 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: get a charge of the turning back down scanned it 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 6: therefore twenty nine okay, great followed the mechanic and they 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 6: said those are dealer only. I called the dealer. They 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 6: said fide grounds. 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, oh, I had a time. Let's let's let's take 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: this apart one piece of a time, Jay, what's dealer 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: only catalytic courters or the dealer is the only one 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: who will do to repair. 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 6: You. No dealer only on the other they only have 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 6: them there. That's what they said. Okay, here's the thing. 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 6: I later took the truck to them ride and I said, 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 6: go over it, see you what's wrong with it. They 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: went over it and said, you know what, I only 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: see the skate control ECM. I believe they said that's 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 6: what's wrong with them. I said, okay. I said, it's 74 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: about fifteen hundred dollars. I said, fix it, But is 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: that going to be it? And after that I expected 76 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: to be okay, so let me put my master text 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 6: on it and I'll let you know. Comes back with nope, 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: not the skate control ECM. You know, and he's the 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 6: cats And I go, okay, five grand, right he said yep? 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 6: And I said, is that going to fix it? He 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 6: said nope, that's the start of it. We don't know 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 6: where to go from there. I said, okay, well, if 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: that's not going to fix it five grand, then why 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 6: am I taking it to you? Took it back and 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: I said I got to go over it myself. And 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 6: I remember, you know, the famous smoke test on it. 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 6: Somewhere I heard that the intake actic can go bad 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 6: on it. I went, I did a smoke test or 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 6: smoke him out of the antake asking fixed the intake 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 6: asking myself. And when I did that, I saw that 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 6: the the the vout covers or leaking oil took those. 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: Fixed that, and I saw the the coils had some 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 6: cracks on them. Fix that, And I thought, okay, that's 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 6: what was it, right, that was what we want. Put 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 6: it back together, same thing, you know. But the zero 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: four to twenty went away? Okay, and I came back. 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 6: It came back with one thirty eight. 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: All right? He did O two censors slow response or 99 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: heater circuit. 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, two sensors over bulksage. 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: I believe that, yeah, slowly we sometimes I see it 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: a slow response. So so let's let's let's cut to 103 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: the chase. What fault code does it have in it? 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Does does it have in it? Right? Now? Okay, it's 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: got the one thirty eight? And how does it run? 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 6: It is the team how I've run, you know, because 107 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 6: I initially turned it on, everything is okay, right, I 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 6: take it off and it has a hard shift from 109 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 6: one to second right and you can tell that there's 110 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 6: something wrong. There's low power. And if you get it 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 6: up to hire RPMs higher than thirty five hundred thirty 112 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 6: five whatever, thirty ahead, then it has a tick on it. 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: It has a tick on it. But then I take 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 6: it too visit my mom. I leave it there. By 115 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: the time I come back, it's running like nothing is 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 6: along with it to move, shifting owards like it's brand new. 117 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: All right, here's what I want you to do. I'm 118 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: going to give your home. I'm gonna give your homework assignment. 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: You got a pencil and paper, yes I did, Okay, 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: you've got an ob D two scan tool. Right, you 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: can go in and look at OBD two information. 122 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 6: I have a year making model on Yeah. 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Well, I want you to do OBD two. It's simpler. 124 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Do you have OBD two on there? All right? Yes, 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: I do OBD two. Tell you the truth. I use 126 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: more ob D two than I do your make model. 127 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: So you're going to see it. You're going to see 128 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: a pit on their piece of data parameter identification calculated load. 129 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: I want you to find a quiet street, the highway, 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: a side street, someplace where nobody's around, all right, someplace 131 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: where you feel comfortable doing doing a wide open throttle acceleration, 132 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: So make sure there's plenty of space around. You do 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: it in a big parking lot, and you know, from 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: a ten mile a kick, from a fifteen mile an 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: hour roll kick it. Put your head through that, put 136 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: your foot through the headlight. Where's calculated load go? You 137 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: may want to put it in graph mode because in 138 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: graph mode you don't have to necessarily watch the scan 139 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: tool on the road. You can just watch the road 140 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: and then come back and see where the graph went. 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: All right, I want to see if this enginees bree 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: I want to see if this engine's breathing properly all right, 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, and it's important listen. You know you can 144 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: you can walk how many feet, how many miles, how fast, 145 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: et cetera, as a human being. But if your nose 146 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: is stuff and you have to breathe through your mouth, 147 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: that affects how your legs operate. Right, You can't lift 148 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: them as hard or as faster as often, and affects 149 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: the distance you can walk or run the same same 150 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: thing with an automobile. I just want to see how 151 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: well this thing's breathing. I want you to stop looking 152 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: at what's broken. I want you to tell me what's good. 153 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: I want to know what calculated load is. We should 154 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: see a calculated load response in the eighty five percent 155 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: tile or above, all right, And i'd like to see 156 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: this when it's broken. All right, I don't want to 157 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: see this. You know when it's when it's good, that's 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: not I want to I want you to do this 159 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: when when you think the engine is going to run badly. 160 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: If you're not familiar with a calculated load test, find 161 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: another car, anything that's got OBD two on it. Do 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: the same exact thing. Get good at doing it on 163 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: the good car, and then go take it over and 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: practice on the broken car. All right. This way you 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: know what known good feels like. It looks like the 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: average car on OBD two. You should be able to 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: hit an eighty five closer to ninety percent tile or 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: one hundred percent up to one hundred percent calculated load 169 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: that shows that the engine is breathing correctly. That's number 170 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: one homework assim at number one, Number two simple ad 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: idle sitting there at idle? All right? What engine is 172 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: in this four point seven? All right? I want you 173 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: to look at mass airflow grams per second. You may 174 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: have to convert it. What is it? What? What's it? 175 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: At? 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: Idle? 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: At idle? When I first turn it on, it goes 178 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 6: high to like seven something. All right, if I've driven 179 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 6: it and everything calms down, it goes to like five 180 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: point seven something like that. Even that's at rarely when 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 6: it goes too right. 182 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: So we because this is a four to seven naturally 183 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: aspirated right, there's no there's no turbo on this. This 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: is just the way it came from the factory. We 185 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: should see. Yeah, you know, four point five to four 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: point eight is a range if you're seeing constantly five 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: point zero or above mass airflow grams per second, if 188 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: it's if it's gps not pounds per inch, or it's 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: not a different measurement, You got to look. You might 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: have to find a conversion on the on the net. 191 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: Then I want you to focus on that. Why is 192 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: that out of kilter? Did this vehicle sit for any 193 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: length of time? 194 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: It did? 195 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 6: The person that had it before me said they just 196 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: weren't able to figure it out. So it did. 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to take the mass airflow sensor. 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you this. I'll tell you that. Well, 199 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this now. I want you to take 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: the mass airflow sensor off and look inside of it. 201 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Is there a spider web? Is there a bug? Something? Stupid? 202 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 7: Ron? 203 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 6: I already took it off, the original one. I took 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: it off, cleaned it because they say, you know, sometimes 205 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 6: they go back. Right, the truck has about clost to 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 6: three hundred thousand miles. 207 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't care about that. 208 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 6: I give you a clue. 209 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's got hoigh mild. It's twenty years old. 210 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. So I took it out, cleaned it, came back 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: and gave me the cult for the mass refolce and 212 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: for the math censor. I changed it, changed it to 213 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 6: a hit Tachi one from Amazon, and then it went 214 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 6: to three point seven, and the truck was actually running better. Right, 215 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 6: I'd say, this can be good. So Sende went back 216 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 6: bought one from Toota itself, and that's the one that's 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 6: in there right now. And it's reading five when it's 218 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 6: already I heated up, and seven when. 219 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: It's cold, well seven when it's cold, but the idol 220 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: is higher. Correct. Yeah, right, so that makes sense? You're pulling? 221 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Why does that make sense? You're pulling more air across 222 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: the sensor. Right, So when this thing's warmed up at idle? 223 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: And is it idling? What's six seven seven eight one pm? 224 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, But here's the thing. It's wrong when AC is on. 225 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: When I twelve button to tell you what the AC? 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: Sit tight a minute, j Hey, Jay, Sit tight a minute. 227 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Let me come back. I'm running over my clock here. 228 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: Sit tight, don't go anywhere I'm running any of the car. Doctor. 229 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 8: Time. 231 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Write it on the wall so you don't forget to 232 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: call for car device. Done right? Eight five five five 233 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to rod. Hey, 234 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: let's get back to j in la Jay. You're there 235 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: on here, okay, So let's let's go back to the 236 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: pencil and paper before we go back talking about the 237 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: mess era. I want to know what calculated load is. 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Where's fuel trim on this truck? Have you looked at 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: fuel trim? 240 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 6: I have actually look at my note. 241 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: What are your notes? Tell you? Short term? 242 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 6: Long term fu'el trim? Long term? I got a six 243 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 6: point two five bank one and five point four six? 244 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so long term fuel trim is reasonable. You can 245 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: look at short term short term as at the moment, 246 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: so I'm not too concerned about it because long term 247 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: seems to be within a reasonable range. So let's talk 248 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: about Have you looked at you have a vacuum gauge, 249 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: old school vacuum gauge. All right, look at when you 250 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: hook up your scan tool. Look at the map pit. 251 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: There's probably a map m AP, a map PID here. 252 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: All right, manifold absolute pressure. So turn the key on, 253 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: engine off, look at the barometric pressure PID. See what 254 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: it says. And then I want you to go google 255 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: barometric pressure around me, all right and see what your 256 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: barometric pressure is in LA that day. Should match the tool, right, 257 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: you would think reasonably? So you ever see a stuck 258 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: map sensor? Drive a car? Nuts I have? This is 259 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: These are the you know, I'm trying to take you 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: through the basics because if we can prove all these 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: things are good, we can market down and then we 262 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: can focus on what's wrong with this? All right? You know, 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get you to do the same things 264 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: a doctor does when you go into the er. They 265 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: look at what do they do? They look at the 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: critical things they always and you ever notice a doctor, 267 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: oh and I say this time and again. They always 268 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: look at the same six or seven things time and 269 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: time again because they know those are the things that 270 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: will point you in a direction. So I want to 271 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: know calculated load. I want to know Barrow. I want 272 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: to know map sensor reading. When you start it, you're 273 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: probably gonna, well, you're hopefully going to come back and 274 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: tell me that you see a map censor reading of 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: around twelve inches. That tells me you've got eighteen inches 276 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: of manifold vacuum. Because it's an inverse thing that I 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: can't get into here, it's too long to explain. So 278 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: but I want to I want to know what the 279 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: scan tool thinks map sensor reading is. All right, how's 280 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: the idle quality when you sit there warmed up at idle? 281 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: Good? It's good? Okay, it's good, all right. 282 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: And once you get past that thirty five mile an 283 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: hour mark, does it feel like it has good power? 284 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: Does it go wide open throttle and takes off. 285 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 6: No? No, it's like the first five six miles of 286 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 6: it running, it runs very bad. And after it's warmed up, 287 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 6: it's you know. Another thing that I know is once 288 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 6: it goes into close loop, it gets worse. Once it 289 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 6: is an open loop, it's sort of okay, it still 290 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: has that hardshift, but it has power, not full power, 291 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 6: has power, and you have a piece it goes into 292 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 6: close loop and it. 293 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: Runs that and you have a P zero one thirty 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: eight correct. 295 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 296 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that Bank one downstream O two sensor 297 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: will come out? 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 299 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: Okay, taking out? So can you swap Bank one in 300 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: Bank two? 301 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 6: I've done that and they they're the same. Excuse me, 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 6: that's the same. 303 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: So it follows, so it follows Bank one, so it 304 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: keeps saying Bank one has the issue, Yes it does. Okay, 305 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: can you take out the upstream catalyst O two censor? 306 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 6: I'm sure I can't. 307 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: Okay, can you do a back pressure test? 308 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: Does it really down that too? 309 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Does it run better? How did you do a back 310 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: pressure test if you haven't taken the OL two out 311 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: yet or have you? I? 312 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: Well, yeah I did on the on the op stream 313 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 6: back one I did. I put a pressure gauge on it, 314 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 6: idlist almost er and then I accelerated it not being okay, Yeah, 315 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 6: I thought the capitalar plaid too. 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: But all right, So then let's let's focus more on 317 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: those critical pieces of information I gave you. And then 318 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: the last thing is I want to make sure this 319 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: thing breathes well. Do the calculated load. I want you 320 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: to go search atg volumemetric efficiency. I want you to 321 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: read up on that. Automotive Training Group all right, Automotive 322 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: Training Group has a nice chart there. It talks about 323 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: volumetric efficiency. It will walk you through the process of 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: some of the things I've talked to you about here, 325 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: but it will also explain the idea. Volumetric efficiency is 326 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: a much more in depth look at calculated load because 327 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: to me, it sounds like this engine's not breathing properly. 328 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: All right, that that P zero four twenty going away. 329 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: You know, I've seen all kinds of funny things. And 330 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: then we can maybe talk next week about you know, 331 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: if we were to graft the upstream downstream mode twos 332 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: and look at them, do we see a difference. Is 333 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: it possible we've got a bad cat on the bank 334 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: one that the catalytic converter honeycomb is rolling around blocking 335 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: the exhaust the wrong way, and then all of a 336 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: sudden you hit a bump and it pops open and 337 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: goes the other way. Weird things high mile. 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: I've taken them out. I took the cap off right 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 6: and I put a camera in one and they look, 340 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 6: they don't look. I put a light on the other. 341 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: End and they're not moving and you can see right 342 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: through it. 343 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 6: They're not you can feel a light on the other side. 344 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: Something's not making sense here, Jake, go get me my 345 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: Go do your homework, get me my critical measurements, and 346 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: let's let's talk again next week. Also, take a look 347 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: at throttle angle. Could we have a dirty throttle body 348 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: affecting mass airflow readings at idle and look at the 349 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: air and take duct as well. We'll talk next week. 350 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car Doctor. We're back right 351 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: after this. Ron's in the Zone, the Auto Zone studio, 352 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: and he'll be back right after this. Welcome back, ron 353 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Ny in the card Actor. Let's go over and talk 354 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: to Let's go talk to Paul in Maine, twenty nineteen, 355 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: Ford Edge, Paul. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How 356 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: can I help? 357 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got two issues going on. It's got about 358 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: sixty thousand miles. It's got a two liter Eco Boost Mota. 359 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: You lift up the hood and boy has got quite 360 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: a ticking sound. To it almost like it's lift a sound, 361 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: but it doesn't seem as though it should be. 362 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: Did you have a recent did you have a recent 363 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: oil change? 364 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: Paul, Well, let's see, probably two thousand or so miles ago. 365 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Is this the first time you lifted the hood since then? Yes, okay, 366 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: if you look at the top. 367 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: But now, okay, another to go backwards a little bit. 368 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: We just bought the car in July. 369 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't. 370 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: Ever remember hearing the sound, but it may have been 371 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: there then too. 372 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: All right, So my first question is is there a 373 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: black plastic cover over the top of the engine. 374 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: Uh? 375 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 376 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: No, Okay, it's no. 377 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: You can see you can see the you can. 378 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: See the valve cover and all the wiring. You can 379 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: see the valve cover and all the wiring. Right, So 380 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: it's possible, and I've seen this plenty of times that 381 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: when whoever changed the oil, I'm not saying they did, 382 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they didn't, but it's the first thing 383 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: I would consider that what you're hearing is a normal 384 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: sound and they left that insulator panel off? Is it 385 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: is it that? Did you did you lift the hood 386 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: because you heard the ticking noise, or you lifted the 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: hood and that's when you notice the ticking noise at 388 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: that point. 389 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 3: Exactly that's what I did. 390 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think somebody left the Yeah, there's supposed 391 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: to be a baffle there or a baffle plate and 392 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: an insulation plate. And I can't I can't tell you. 393 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: It just boggles my mind how somebody left it off. 394 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: I see it a lot. You know, somebody's got a 395 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: big collection of these things, and it's it's calm and listen. 396 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: My one daughter who lives a couple of three or 397 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: four hours away, sometimes she gets her oil changed down 398 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: there where she is, and she'll come home and say, hey, pop, 399 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: can you change the oil? And I brought a car 400 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: in one time and change the oil and lo and 401 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: behold it's missing. Well, uh, you know, so not completely uncommon. 402 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: What's the second thing you got going on? 403 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: Okay? Well, as it it runs fine, but when it's 404 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, you slow down, it's kinds of kind of 405 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: seems to have a hesitation. I don't you know. Like 406 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: I said, when you take off, it accelerates real good 407 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: and everything like that, but it seems to have this 408 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: hesitation like it's skipping almost when you really when you've 409 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: come real slow. 410 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm trying to get in my mind's 411 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: eye how you would pick up a hesitation on d 412 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: cell because you're not asking the engine to accelerate. Is 413 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: it is it that you're stepping on the break at 414 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: that time? Well? 415 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you come to a stop light, yes, I 416 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: am on the break. 417 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: Is it from high speed? 418 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: What do you mean high speed? 419 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh? Is it highway speeds? Or is it can't. 420 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Well no, no, high highway speed. 421 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: It runs fine well on DCEL right, is it d 422 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: cell on high way speed? Is that when you notice it? 423 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: Or do you notice it? If you're doing twenty five 424 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: miles an hour around town and you still get the 425 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: same sensation. 426 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly twenty miles an hour or so. 427 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have your foot on the brake, 428 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: does it do it? 429 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 430 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: So you take your foot off the gas and just 431 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: coast and you get this, You get this hesitation feeling. 432 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like almost skipping. 433 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: Like. 434 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: No dashboard lights on? 435 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: No, no, not the thing. 436 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'd like to see that one 437 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: because I can't for the life you figure out how 438 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: you detect a hesitation under no load cruising up to 439 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: a stop sign without your foot on the brake, you know, 440 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: and no dash warning lights. 441 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: Well you can, you can, like I said, feel the 442 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: you can feel the engine not running smoothly. 443 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then the first thing I'm gonna do, who's 444 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: your mechanic? I mean, I would, I would, I would 445 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: have them scan it. Do you have a pending fault 446 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: for a misfire on one of the things? That was 447 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: common on those all right? And it was mostly the 448 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen through the eighteens, but some of the nineteen 449 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: edges had it as well. If that's a two liter 450 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: is Ford had some issues early on with head gaskets 451 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: and cylinders, cylinder engine blocks failing, seeping coolant into the cylinders, 452 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: causing a rough running condition, but normally it was experienced 453 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: on acceleration, not d excel, not d excel under no load. 454 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: You know. I wonder what would happen if you were 455 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: pulling up to that stop sign or traffic light at 456 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: twenty miles an hour and gently popped it into neutral, 457 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: careful not to careful, not to go into reverse, all right, 458 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 2: just you know, just just go into neutral and go 459 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: to cruising. Do you still get that same hesitation. If 460 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: you don't, then yeah, I would agree it's somewhere in 461 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: the engine and the way the engine is breaking itself 462 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: slowing itself down. If you do, then it's in the 463 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: rolling chassis, a tire, an axle, something along those lines. 464 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 2: But that's how that's that's that's how I would approach that, 465 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: all right. 466 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: And now, yeah, now getting back to the first one. 467 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: I got the engine. The hood popped open now and 468 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: that that shroud you're talking about is gone, right. I 469 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: can see the little plastic knobs where it hooks to. 470 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, And and you're probably collecting leaves under there, 471 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: if the leaves are falling in. Yeah, yeah, there is yep. Yeah, 472 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: that's what happens. That's and I'm not saying I'm not 473 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: saying that's the only thing, but that's the first step 474 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: I would do. Because that's a GDI, that's a gasoline 475 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: direct injection engine. Noisy injectors. If it's a repetitive steady 476 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: tic tic tic tic tick, almost like you know a 477 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: sixty three Chevy with a bad lifter on a two 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: eighty three. Yeah, if it's if it's that kind of 479 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: a noise, it's it's it's missing that cover. That's the 480 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: first step. And regardless, that cover should be there because 481 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: it's not just for cosmetic it's for sound insulation, and 482 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: it helps keep the top. It helps keep you know, 483 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: if you notice the hoodline of the radiator in the airstream, 484 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: it's going to float right over the top of the engine. 485 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: That insulation cover. Yeah, that insulation cover keeps Everything's there 486 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: for a purpose, right, That insulation cover keeps everything clean 487 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: and dry and keeps all the crowd off it. 488 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: So all right, okay, so okay, well, doun's good. Thank 489 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: you very much. 490 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. Good luck to you. 491 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: End up. 492 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Prayers, prayers to Maine. Let's let's pull over. Take a pause. 493 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 494 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Im running any of the Card Doctor. We'll be back 495 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: right after this. Hey, welcome back running the Card Doctor. 496 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Read five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 497 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: I haven't gonna have the phone number enough this hour. 498 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 499 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: Give us a shout, leave a message Tom Ray, the 500 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: Indubitable Tom Ray. We'll hook you up and get you 501 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: in the queue for the next broadcast. If you missed us, 502 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: this week, let's get over to Mark in Wisconsin twenty thirteen, 503 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: f one to fifty. Mark, what's going on? Tell me 504 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: the tell. 505 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 7: Well had this vehicle for ten years. It's always run 506 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 7: like a top and it still does. Until we took 507 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 7: a long trip out west, about a seventeen hundred mile trip, 508 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 7: and we were, you know, mostly on two lane roads, 509 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 7: and I got behind the slow driver, pulled out to pass, 510 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 7: put the pedal down to the floor, and you know, 511 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 7: I experienced this, you know, a little bit of turbo 512 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 7: lag like I always do. It's got the Eco boost engine. 513 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 7: And but then it started to run so rough and 514 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: misfiring and all these weird chugging along and stuff. I 515 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 7: thought the engine was going to stall. So I backed 516 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 7: off on the gas pedal and you know, oh and wow, 517 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 7: this was happening. I noticed the check engine light was 518 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 7: flashing like crazy. It was blinking at me. I've never 519 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 7: seen that before. 520 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: You know. 521 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 7: And when I backed off on a gas it smoothed out, 522 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 7: started running okay again, and you know, the check engine 523 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 7: light stayed on. But by the next morning the check 524 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 7: engine light wasn't even anymore. It went off. So but 525 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 7: I got twenty three point four miles a gallon on 526 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 7: this trip, despite this fact that there is or was 527 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 7: something wrong with this, and I've just you know, I'm 528 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 7: just curious. Why can't it run so smooth that just 529 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 7: a cruising speed, but you know, run so rough when 530 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 7: I accelerate. 531 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, because it's when it's underload. Well, let me ask 532 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: you this, when when do you break down and start 533 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: to misfire when you're at a when you're sitting still, 534 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: when you're at a walker, when you're running full. 535 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 7: Speed, right, running full speed right. 536 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: Cars are the same way. Vehicles are the same way, 537 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: So it's when they're under duress that you usually see 538 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: the the failure. So even though the check engine light 539 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: isn't on now, I'd be curious. I don't know how 540 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: many key cycles you've gone since you had this occur. 541 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: You know, did you happen to scan it for codes 542 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: just to see did it pick out a cylinder? Or 543 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: was it a random misfire? You know? Where was it work? 544 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: It was? 545 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: I took it to my mechanic, but they set it 546 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 7: the light the check engine lights now and I was probably 547 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 7: not going to show any codes and they had to 548 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 7: charge me to do it. You know, when it probably 549 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 7: wouldn't give them any kind of a readount, you know. 550 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 7: But they said, if the light comes back on, bring 551 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 7: it in and we'll look it up. 552 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: Let me guess it won't. The light won't come back 553 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: on until you take a long extended road test. 554 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 7: Oh now, it actually has been coming off and on 555 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 7: for maybe a year. But the thing runs so good 556 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 7: and gives me such good gas mileage. They told me that. 557 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 7: The mechanic told me it's probably just that little flap 558 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 7: where you put the you know, the gas nozzle in there. 559 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 7: It doesn't have a screw on cap anymore. It's just 560 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 7: kind of, you know, a little push thing that you 561 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 7: just push through there. And if that doesn't feel right, 562 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 7: they say, that'll, you know, have that check engine light 563 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 7: come on it. They thought that's probably all it was, 564 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 7: because it's been running so good. 565 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, they're wrong. You know how I know that? You 566 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: know how I know that? 567 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 7: No? 568 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: Go do you do you have another car in the 569 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: house with a gas cap? Yeah, okay, go take the 570 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: gas cap off and go drive it and put your 571 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: foot to the floor. Does the car turn on the 572 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: check engine light? 573 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: You know? 574 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 8: No? 575 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 7: Probably not right. 576 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: If the logic is there, if The logic is a 577 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: loose gas CAP's going to turn on the light and 578 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the shutter, means they're just 579 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: they really don't you know. I hate to pick on 580 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: a shop, but I don't understand this kind of logic. 581 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: There's a fold code in there, there's something in there. 582 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk. Let's talk in the time we have. How 583 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: does a computer? How does a car know it's broken? 584 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: How do you know when you're sick? You get up 585 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: on Monday, you got to Yeah, you don't feel good, right, 586 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: but you know, is it that you get up on 587 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: Wednesday and you just feel terrible or do you feel 588 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: it coming on Sunday? Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday you get 589 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: up and you got a running nose and water realizing 590 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: you're not going to work. It's usually a couple of days, right. 591 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: So so on a car, all right, it runs tests 592 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: on all its circuits and components every time you turn 593 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: the key and every time you drive it. Every time. 594 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: All right, this isn't this isn't you know, hearsay myth possibility? 595 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: This is law. The Clean Air Act of nineteen ninety one, 596 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: instituted in nineteen ninety six full force, requires us of 597 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: every vehicle equipped with onboard emission levels diagnostic to OBD two. 598 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: All right, period. All right, if the check engine light 599 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: came on on Monday, and depending upon how many turns 600 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: of the key, depending upon your make model of the vehicle, 601 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: within thirty captures of the key cycle, you'll likely find 602 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: a fault code. All right. And for the for the record, 603 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: for the two cents that it's worth, I think one 604 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: of the advantages to make a shop a better shop 605 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: you keep that two hundred dollars scan tool by the 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: door when the good customer comes in. And I'm sure 607 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: you're a good customer to these guys. You show up 608 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: for service, you take the five minutes, you walk out there, 609 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: you plug in, you go, Hey, you know what, Mark, 610 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: it's got this fault code. But it's not there. Now, 611 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: let's make an appointment in two weeks, or hey, you 612 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: know what, Mark, here's the fault code. Yeah, I'm probably 613 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: not going to capture it. Keep driving and let it. 614 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's geez. You know, why is 615 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: this all about dollars and cents? It is, but it isn't. 616 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: It's a business, but it isn't. You know, take the 617 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: two minutes. Tell the guy what the fault code is. 618 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: Give it because you know what happens next. We start 619 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: to create rumors, and we start to create problems, and 620 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: we drive customers to people that don't know what they're doing, 621 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: that are willing to do it for free, and we 622 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: start throwing parts at the cars that don't fix anything. 623 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: So I want you to I want you to replicate 624 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: this fault code. I want you to have this light 625 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: come on and off, on and off, on and off, 626 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: and then I want you to go to your mechanic 627 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: and tell him he's got to scan it for free. 628 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: Tell him, I said, so, have him call me. You 629 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: know how to find me. Find me in the shop. 630 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 2: I'll talk to the guy. All right, It'll take them, 631 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: all of them, I'll take them all the five. Yeah, 632 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: if the light came on on Tuesday, have him scan it, 633 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: see if there's something there. All right, if he's going 634 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: to end up fixing it, ask him what would it 635 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: couse just to scan the light. If he's going to 636 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: be like that, it doesn't take a lot of effort. 637 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: It's five minutes. Because my concern is this, if this 638 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: engine is truly misfiring, all right, every time you stutter step. 639 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: You know, you ever watch somebody with a limp walk 640 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: and they start to win some in pain, more and 641 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: more the more steps they take, all right, because they're 642 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: not putting load on the knee correctly or some part 643 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: of their body. They're making something else work harder and overcompensate. 644 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: Same thing with a vehicle, all right. If this engine 645 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: is misfiring, we're overloading the catalytic converters. We're we're leading 646 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: the cats towards a failure. So you know, when do 647 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: we want to begin the repair process when the cat's 648 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: completely gone and it's seven grand to replace them, or 649 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: when it's you know, fifteen hundred and two thousand dollars 650 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: worth of spark plugs and coils and maybe some fuel 651 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: system cleaning. You know, this isn't rocket science. It doesn't 652 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: have to be, that's for sure. 653 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's got original spark plugs. By the way, 654 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 7: how many how why would they run smooth as that 655 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 7: a steady speed and this fire at high speed? 656 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: How many miles are on it? Okay, it's time for plugs. 657 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Why why the difference when it's because have you ever 658 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: been able to walk on a flat level road and 659 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: then you get to that uphill and you start to 660 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: struggle because you've gotten older. Sure, why is it like that? 661 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: Because you've gotten older, because parts are worn, because they 662 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: don't operate as well. You know, the least you could 663 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: do is pull a couple of plugs out and see 664 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: the gap. And when you find out they're supposed to 665 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: be gapped at forty five thousands and they're gapped at 666 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: seventy because they're worn, you know, I mean, I got 667 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: to tell you from my seat here, this sounds like 668 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: a classic case if somebody hasn't done proper maintenance and 669 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: due diligence by now at one hundred and twenty. I'm 670 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: not yelling at you, Mark, but by now, at one 671 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty, owe you owe that vehicle a set 672 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: of plugs. You probably owe it a set of ignition coils. 673 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: By now, make sure you put something good quality in 674 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: there and by all means a good fuel system cleaning, 675 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: because you know it's been running like this for a while. 676 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: But the first step before I do any of this, 677 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to scan it and see what fault code 678 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: I have. And even if I don't have a fault code, 679 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to go into Mote six data and look 680 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: and see what that is, because that'll tell me what 681 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: test is running, and what test is failing, and what 682 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: test is creating the fault code. Tell your mechanic call me, 683 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll see you. 684 00:33:47,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: Bye, Welcome back the car doctor here. 685 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: You know, I want to talk about Mark's phone. Call 686 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: there for a minute, you know, as a repair shop 687 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: and for my repair shops out there listening, and you 688 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: send me your thoughts. You tell me if you think 689 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm crazy. I understand it's a business. I understand we're 690 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: they're to make money because we're trying to keep the 691 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: lights on and feed our families and go to the 692 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: next step. But to ignore a flashing check engine light 693 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: under acceleration, that's that to me. Mark came in telling 694 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: me he's having chest pains, he's sweating, and he's short 695 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: of breath. He's about to have a heart attack. Well, 696 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: and you know that would be the same equivalent as saying, well, 697 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: until you're twitching on the floor, there's nothing I can 698 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: do for you. I think the repair shop has to 699 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: look at the customer and say, now, this guy's are 700 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: a pretty good customer. He's in here on a regular basis, 701 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to make that decision for that 702 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: repair shop. I owe that guy an apology for that. 703 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: But from the perspective of you know, if the guy's 704 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 2: in here on a regular basis and he's been coming 705 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: in for a while, they at least all them that 706 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: five minute look in the driveway. Hey there's nothing here. 707 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 2: But if we can take it out to the highway, 708 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: make the problem happen, and scan it thin and see 709 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: the fault, that begins the start of a diagnostic moment 710 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: where we can actually charge for that, come to a 711 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: conclusion and help take care of the vehicle. Because I 712 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: guarantee you this, you find yourself in that situation and 713 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: that customer finds out, hey, if I had done something 714 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: a year ago, I would have to put catalytic converters 715 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: on it. They're not going to be happy, and neither 716 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: are you. I'm running ady in the car doctor. Good 717 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you