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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuff where

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Speaker 2: Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 4: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross shooting.

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Speaker 3: Hob Dad.

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Speaker 2: Live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort Center at the

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Speaker 2: Star in Frisco, Texas, where it is fifty five degrees

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Speaker 2: thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Talk about hump Day.

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Speaker 5: The one guy we missing on hump Day without our boy,

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Speaker 5: without our.

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Speaker 6: Boy Kurt Hope but gets better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, three pumps at that a rectile at that timing.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't It wasn't what he anticipated without our boy, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: Three pumped Daniels. He is shinning.

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Speaker 3: This is Nate in the back is Kirk keep keep

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Speaker 3: Chris Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris.

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Speaker 5: Keeping his live a local. I am Salt and Pepper

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Speaker 5: Poppy together. Yes, we are hanging with the boys. The

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Speaker 5: sports talk equivalent of brow people.

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Speaker 3: When we speak.

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Speaker 6: Bro teaching every day. Why we can stop where flavor

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Speaker 6: gets as.

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Speaker 2: We we're still getting food Friday.

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Speaker 7: Chris, the email went out and I'm not seeing the

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Speaker 7: response you send an email. Well, now I sent an

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Speaker 7: email to the parties and said, hey, you sent the

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Speaker 7: previous email that said this is the date?

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Speaker 2: Is it still the day I got you? So we

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Speaker 2: we're getting the same order that we got last time.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you guys want to change, you let

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Speaker 7: me know. I was just gonna go with the same.

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Speaker 3: Might be the only one that changed.

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Speaker 8: Don't get me done, even if I make it. Don't

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Speaker 8: get me none, because I don't know if I'll be here,

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Speaker 8: So don't get me no.

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Speaker 6: Get him some and they'll take care of you.

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Speaker 9: There's enough people that are like, okay, well what you do,

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Speaker 9: what you do? I'm sorry, you know, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 9: I don't like to take advantage, you know, be wasteful.

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Speaker 2: Cinnamon Rolls will be here next week, okay.

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Speaker 9: So make sure I know what day so I do not.

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Speaker 5: Because we are not We're not saving you.

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Speaker 6: Many next Friday. At least they would be eating next yeah,

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Speaker 6: next Friday, because Jesse won't be here. We're not foul.

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Speaker 6: We don't have a show tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Remember that tomorrow. But we will have the next Friday

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Speaker 7: check times.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna work on times and you're iffy for Friday, right, yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, So y'all won't get the wings anyway.

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Speaker 9: Be wasteful, man.

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Speaker 3: We'll take what they want to put a waists.

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Speaker 6: No they won't. All right, fellas, how are y'all Wednesdays

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Speaker 6: and dentals?

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Speaker 10: Good?

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Speaker 6: Good? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 9: I'm great man.

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Speaker 6: We know somebody somebody good? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I ain't doing good, have no explanation or nothing,

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Speaker 2: just last minute, not gonna be there. It's either diary

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Speaker 2: is getting fired one of the others. Only two things

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Speaker 6: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 9: Fire?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we hope you have.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, this game is shaping up to be a

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Speaker 2: little more interesting than it was at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the year. Carolina is actually playing some some decent football.

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Speaker 2: Their their quarterback is seems like you start to maybe

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Speaker 6: They got a pretty good running back.

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Speaker 2: Is they're running back the biggest threat on And by

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Speaker 2: the way, we'll tease this. We were talking about this

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Speaker 2: before the show and Jesse was like, I'll tell you

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Speaker 6: I was like, no, tell us on the air because.

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Speaker 2: We want to know the rumors are actually I guess

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Speaker 2: it's facts now because he said it was true. Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is talking to the University of North Carolina about

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Speaker 2: a position with the football program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not just up position, the position.

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Speaker 6: And Jesse is uh has some opinions, So we'll get

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Speaker 8: I want to say this right here and keep it

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Speaker 8: with the Belichick way of doing things. Coach Belichick, we

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Speaker 9: How is that going.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll see, we'll see you North Carolina.

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Speaker 9: We don't need to.

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Speaker 3: And see. That's the part. That's the part right there, that.

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Speaker 5: You can't be that way you're dealing with the college

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Speaker 3: You got. You don't have just a football office. You

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Speaker 5: You have uh, you know, the the Booster club. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you have so many parents, the parents, the agents. Now,

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Speaker 5: a collegiate program that you just can't say, shun the

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, one of my good friends, she's

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Speaker 5: the she's the assistant athletic director and she's over academics.

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Speaker 3: Cricket lanes out the cricket. Uh, you gotta communicate with cricket.

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Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta know who's in line to graduate,

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Speaker 5: whose grades aren't right, all the other kind of stuff,

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Speaker 5: and and it it takes me back to a time

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Speaker 5: when and he was a coach here too, on the

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson Butch Davis. Yes, sir, when when Butch came

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Speaker 5: over and took over as a head coach. Butch wanted

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Speaker 5: to run it like an NFL organization, and he kept

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Speaker 5: every Now Butch was doing some funny money stuff behind

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Speaker 5: shunned everybody. Everybody was on the outside, the periphery. No

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Speaker 5: tried to go to see a practice. They stopped me

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Speaker 5: Like it was one of the guys that like Corey Holliday.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like Holiday, it's me, Like it's Jesse.

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Speaker 6: He goes, bro.

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm sorry, but if you don't call ahead

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Speaker 5: the list of folks that can come to practice, Wow,

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Speaker 5: I'm like holiday, it's me. He like, yes, I know,

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Speaker 5: Can't and that a lot of people wrong because I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I ain't know as a regular fan, a person the

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Speaker 3: So Bill's gonna have to He's gonna have.

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Speaker 5: To really really really change his way of thinking and

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Speaker 5: just and just when he says like this is gonna

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Speaker 5: be a pipeline to the NFL, well, that's what all

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Speaker 5: colleges are right now. That's all the major ones Texas, Alabama, Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Like so like him saying that, is it nothing new?

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Speaker 5: They're all trying to get to the NFL. They're all

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Speaker 5: gonna be different. It's gonna be different. You know, you

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Speaker 5: got rid of Mac Brown, who is seventy three. Only

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Speaker 5: the higher guy who's seventy two. There has to be

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Speaker 5: some relatability with the with the coach and these younger players.

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Speaker 6: Were you shocked when you heard the rumors? And then

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Speaker 2: More shocked when you realized they were true because you

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Speaker 3: I was shocked.

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Speaker 5: Because I didn't think he wanted like college, you want

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Speaker 6: Now, that's harder work than the NFL ten times. It's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all year and now you have to chase

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Speaker 6: He's already doing that.

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Speaker 3: But that was good.

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Speaker 9: That's a good right there there. I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 7: That was That was Here's the thing is like if

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Speaker 7: you listen to Dion, like he says that, like on

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Speaker 7: Friday he goes to practice and after practice, like he

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Speaker 6: First game the next day. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but if Dion flies to my house, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to Colorado.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 6: All the college coaches do that. D may go see

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Speaker 5: But Dion, don't go to houses. He'll send his assistants.

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Speaker 5: You have to come into Colorado. He'll go watch you play.

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Speaker 5: And Colorado is this man Nick and all of the guys.

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Speaker 5: Once you become that iconic coach.

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Speaker 8: Uh, that's that's what that's what happened out What coach

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Speaker 8: Belichick would have to do, coach, what Prime would do

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Speaker 8: in a heartbeat when they're able to is he will

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Speaker 8: FaceTime if coach, if coach don't mind FaceTime, and he

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Speaker 8: gonna be perfect. Because you got the sister to the assistant.

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Speaker 8: Like you said, going to the house, then you got

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Speaker 8: if your sister got a big enough name, he will

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Speaker 8: that like say Sap, hey man Sap coming to the school.

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Speaker 9: Well, in some.

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Speaker 8: Areas that could be equal to Prime. Then when you

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Speaker 8: I said, well that's part of the recruiting. He said Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's part of selling and recruiting. So everybody's selling a

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Speaker 8: coach Belichick, he said, But if you're not willing, because

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Speaker 8: I've seen Prime and Hi being a heated co conversation,

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Speaker 8: cracking jokes. Hold on, I gotta get this, and he

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Speaker 8: turned into coach coach Prime, what's up?

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Speaker 9: How man help you?

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Speaker 8: Hey, wide receiver says say, hey man, and then he'll

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Speaker 8: throw some stats at them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been watching you.

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Speaker 8: So if coach Belichick is willing to get on that

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Speaker 8: FaceTime and spend some time with these kids, and especially

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Speaker 8: because the recruiting process, not only are you recruiting these

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Speaker 8: other colleges that want to come into that portal, you

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Speaker 8: are recruit still recruiting your own kids once they come

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Speaker 8: into the door. The recruiting just started. Well Rime, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Prime does this. His players hit him all the time. Coach, Hey,

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Speaker 6: All right? Man?

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Speaker 9: God, how you doing well? Is it a problem?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 9: I just want to you. It's like you say, it

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Speaker 9: is a different world.

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Speaker 5: And if you're like again when you're a pro, yes,

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Speaker 5: it's it's fifty three to sixty of us, and everybody

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Speaker 5: ain't coming to talk to Bill.

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Speaker 3: Please please please, No, he's a terrible human being.

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Speaker 11: Ain't right for jaredy words him or Edelman, because there's

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Speaker 5: You can't find anybody that says anything good about Josh

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Speaker 3: Whatever, or you know, pick something up and he shoot.

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Speaker 5: It's stuff like that that you see when you go

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Speaker 5: Nobody works harder than him on the football field. Damn

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Speaker 2: Flick away he do that. Are they throwing a boatload

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Speaker 3: Let's say SMU, because with SMU also gonna do.

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Speaker 5: They gonna come back when I tell him, Hey, I

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Speaker 5: you know, And that's how your relationships are built over times.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we burned up the first segment, so

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Speaker 2: I have a I have. This was Chris's idea. I

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Speaker 6: It's a great credit though.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do something we've never done on this show.

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Speaker 2: We've done a version of this, but we've never done this.

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Speaker 3: Do a segment with our shirts off.

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Speaker 6: That's wild, Absolutely not. It's actually maybe a better idea.

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Speaker 2: We are going to stint extend an offer to anyone

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Speaker 2: in this building that listens to this show. Kalisha, Kalisha,

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Speaker 6: Nick, Nick's been here before.

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Speaker 2: But Nick anybody, kay, anybody that listens to our show,

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Speaker 5: And everything I said about Bill Belichick because it will

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Speaker 3: He will ban me from.

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Speaker 5: It's all good, you know, it's fun as like, I

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Speaker 5: about me. I get more love in the Dean Dome

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Speaker 5: than I did at Keenan.

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Speaker 3: Keenan is the football, Like I get love when I go.

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Speaker 6: You made it to the NFL and at the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 5: I played two years of basketball before I decided to say,

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Speaker 3: What, I'm gonna give it all to football.

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Speaker 5: Really, yeah, I get more love at the Dean Dome

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Speaker 6: As they made you switch your number.

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Speaker 5: And I was a part of something that was historic,

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Speaker 5: For whatever reason, I go down to the Dean Dome,

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Speaker 6: Man, I feel the same when I go down to.

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Speaker 9: Lunch Bucket and mister Jones upstairs.

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Speaker 3: You're part of something historic. It ain't been right since

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Speaker 9: Coming around the corner a young lady. But it was

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's just like he's here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no, no, nothing.

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Speaker 2: Swing by your local seven eleven and grab your favorite

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Speaker 6: No, Kurt, No, we're joking. Help you feel better if

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Speaker 2: Here's a great stat speaking of Kurt, that Kirk gave

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Speaker 2: us here in the last This blows my mind. The

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Speaker 2: last three games, Saquon Barkley is the only running back

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Speaker 6: Isn't that crazy? And you quit giving them the ball

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Speaker 6: the last game.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the crazy part.

448
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 6: Three hundred and twenty nine yards Barkley has four hundred

449
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 6: and eighty six.

450
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Just that discrepancy of between number one and number two

451
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: in the last three games tells you what crazy season

452
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: Saquon's happened.

453
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: But what will we That kind of blows me away. No,

454
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: go ahead, I was gonna say what, I know what,

455
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 3: But what was it? What was what was it thinking?

456
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 5: Early into this year, Well, it was like running back

457
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 5: by Committee and I remember us coming on this show

458
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 5: and discussing it about, hey, running backs need rhythm, they

459
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 5: need to get them like taking me out after every

460
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 5: single series. I don't get a rhythm. I don't get

461
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 5: a vibe of what's going on, how plays are being

462
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 5: called for me, how things are being set up for me,

463
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 5: How am I setting these blocks up and all that,

464
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 5: And everybody's like, oh no, we got this running back

465
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Speaker 5: And I was like running back by Committee like that

466
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: never really really works it.

467
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Speaker 3: And then they finally I.

468
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Speaker 2: Don't if I wonder if they would have if something's

469
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: different with him, or if they would have started giving

470
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Speaker 2: him the rock on a regular basis at the beginning,

471
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Speaker 2: if he would still be running the only.

472
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Speaker 6: Thing he would have started earlier and still be this

473
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Speaker 6: the only thing.

474
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Speaker 8: The two things that were in his way when he

475
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 8: first started was besides me going along with the running

476
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Speaker 8: back with the committee. I thought coach would handle it better,

477
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 8: but he I don't want to say nothing against Mike,

478
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 8: but they didn't handle that right. Wrong player, wrong situation.

479
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 8: But beyond that, now he's the main back. He learned

480
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 8: to be a little bit more patient and see the whole.

481
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Speaker 8: Earlier in the year, I guess he was just trying

482
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Speaker 8: to show them that he was the man. A lot

483
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 8: of times he wouldn't stay with the hole. A lot

484
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 8: of times he would hit people in the back, and

485
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 8: maybe that was because of the blocking.

486
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Speaker 9: Wasn't as good either.

487
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: True.

488
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Speaker 8: But now you see him in the line as of

489
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 8: one accord.

490
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 9: I mean he takes.

491
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Speaker 8: The play to his fullest and then you'll see him

492
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 8: just break out of there, or you'll see him hit

493
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 8: ninety going north, But you don't see him just taking

494
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 8: off from the start going one hundred miles an hour,

495
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 8: he's easing up to that line and he has the

496
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 8: confidence to know that when it's open, he got the speed,

497
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 8: in the in the power and the quickness to get

498
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 8: through there. So that he is a better runner. UH

499
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 8: coach giving him more opportunities. And and when you see

500
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Speaker 8: that right now, that that makes you, that makes you

501
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 8: feel good because at the point he was going his

502
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 8: first four or six six games, I came in to him. Yes,

503
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 8: I say, is he just a second or third team guy?

504
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 8: Remember I actually that four or five weeks gonna like

505
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 8: God leave, you know, But now you know, I'm not

506
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 8: saying he's the that star stud back. But until you

507
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 8: get that guy, he's more than sufficient if.

508
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 6: He keeps doing what he's doing.

509
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 8: Now.

510
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on, but Jesse is typing

511
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 6: on a computer. I've never seen that on this show.

512
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: Kurt takes one day off and Jesse's trying to fill

513
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: his role.

514
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying. Here's a crazy part about can't log in,

515
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: cannot log in.

516
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 5: And the past Cota is right on the computer and

517
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 5: I cannot get ex my man in the bag.

518
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 6: The past cod is on the come in, come.

519
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 9: In, because I try to Is that a Star.

520
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: Before the number I got, kid.

521
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Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, I've never seen you try to

522
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 6: use the computer, use your phone. I don't know why

523
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: you're doing that.

524
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Speaker 3: I was trying to get you know.

525
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Speaker 5: When people say and I had to check somebody the

526
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 5: other day about like you know Kurt, I was like, nah,

527
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 5: Kurt may not talk a lot.

528
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 3: Kurt breaks a ton of value to our show like today.

529
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Speaker 5: Normally Kurt would make sure that we have a roster

530
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: so that we start talking about these things. I don't

531
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Speaker 5: have to go number, I can go name in numbers.

532
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 5: So people way but identified with it. So thank you,

533
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: Chris Pan, I appreciate it.

534
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 6: Welcome to the show, Chris.

535
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: Is that a star?

536
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 6: What is that?

537
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: It's a star Wars not working.

538
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 5: And so yeah, so tho's things like that, like you know,

539
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 5: a roster to Kurt brings us the opposing team and

540
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 5: the roster so that when we're explaining what we're seeing.

541
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Speaker 5: I don't I know, I can have proper names to

542
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 5: go with proper numbers out here.

543
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 6: It's a roster.

544
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: So I was trying to bring up a roster.

545
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Speaker 6: All right, Well, why don't we get that figured out? PFF.

546
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Kurt, his favorite website. They ranked Carolina's offensive

547
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: line tenth in the NFL. Both guards and both tackles

548
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: are ranked among the top twenty five at their positions.

549
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Speaker 2: And then Bryce Young we talked about it earlier. He's

550
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: getting better? Is he getting better because his offensive line

551
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: is getting better? Are they what are you seeing on film?

552
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: Is he Are they asking him to do something different

553
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: than they did.

554
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 6: At the beginning of the year. Yes, he just growing

555
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 6: into being in quarterback. What's going on?

556
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: I think it's it's a combination. I think after the benching,

557
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: because sometimes you could that that pine will get you right, that.

558
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: Pine will get you right.

559
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 5: And then the coach kind of takes a step back

560
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 5: canalis and a self evaluate, all right, where did we

561
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: fail this kid?

562
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Speaker 9: Right?

563
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: What were we asking this kid to do that maybe

564
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: we shouldn't have. And then Bryce was able to take

565
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 5: a step back and say, Okay, where was I bad?

566
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: Where was I holding the ball too long? Was I

567
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 5: not making my reads properly? And then when he got

568
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: his start back, they started running the ball more. You

569
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: start seeing them run the ball more, and you know

570
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 5: they're going to run the ball with Chube Hubbard and

571
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 5: trust and believe you me, he's going to be He's

572
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: going to be a lot to deal with.

573
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Speaker 2: Sixth and rushing yards in the league oney eleven yards

574
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Speaker 2: and ninth in total carries at two hundred and thirty eight,

575
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Speaker 2: also has nine touchdowns.

576
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, So they started running the ball more, taking some

577
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 5: of the pressure off of Bryce Young and not making

578
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 5: him have to go out here and make all the

579
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: plays all the time for this team. And again, Ny

580
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 5: could talk more about the offensive line. But when I'm

581
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 5: running the ball more and I'm establishing thank you, and

582
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: I'm establishing the line of scrimmage, Now, how does that

583
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 5: play factor into the quarterbacking my play action? They like

584
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: to roll Bryce Young out right or left. As I

585
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: was watching film a little bit last night and this morning,

586
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 5: all I can think about was the cartoon Tom and Jerry,

587
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: and that's gonna be Micah and Bryce.

588
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Tom chasing chasing Jerry chasing him.

589
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: Around and this like a little mouse just running around.

590
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: And when Bryce honestly has time, he's actually a really

591
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: good throw at the football. But I did what I

592
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: did see from Bryce is when I was playing, there

593
00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: were quarterbacks like Rex Grossman, Jay Cutler and uh Eli Manning.

594
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: If you just played the game, those type of quarterbacks

595
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 5: for the defense.

596
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: Were gonna give you one. They were gonna give you

597
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: a chance to intercept it.

598
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: And when you watch Bryce Young throughout all of his games,

599
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 5: there's always a moment in there where he just he

600
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 5: throws one of you go why why he had it

601
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 5: against the Philadelphia game, he said one down the side

602
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: LINEE see they gonna Johnson intercepted it, like he's gonna

603
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: give you one. Now, Willie Cooker or Donald whoever? Will

604
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: they take advantage of it? I don't know. But he's

605
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 5: gotten better because honestly, they've run the ball more, they've

606
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: been able to establish the line of scrimmage, and and

607
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: everyone's just not blitzing him, and he's looking like a

608
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: deal with the looking in the headlights.

609
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: Anything on the offensive line, Nate.

610
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 8: Yes, when I first started looking at it was against Philadelphia.

611
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 9: I'm looking at it and I living now in Tampa.

612
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 11: Uh.

613
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Speaker 8: I was like, I looked at the left guard center

614
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 8: and I'm like, these dudes all right now, they wasn't

615
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 8: giving up giving up. It seems like the lateral movement

616
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 8: is not that great. But I think due to the

617
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 8: fact that they're running the ball more. It helps them

618
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 8: in their past block and in their in their play

619
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 8: action past. They're a strong team. But I'm telling you,

620
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 8: if you can run some games, I would like to

621
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 8: see some games against the tsu ets uh some twists,

622
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 8: even bringing the lineback and slanting the tackle in the

623
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 8: in the end down and bringing the line back, because

624
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 8: I just don't think the lateral movement is that great.

625
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 8: I really don't. Now, you ain't gonna run over them.

626
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 8: They got some beef upfront. They got some hogs, you know,

627
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 8: rooting up front, and they will move you off the ball.

628
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 8: I've seen them do some things to some people. They

629
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 8: will move you off the ball. But I just don't

630
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 8: believe they're that great a pass block. And they give

631
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 8: ground quick, letting me know that they don't feel real secure.

632
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 9: Are their offensive line.

633
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 8: Coach teaches the drop back technique of give ground before

634
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 8: you make contact, and I don't know he's believe in

635
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 8: that way.

636
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 9: You just give ground then punch.

637
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 8: I'd like to take a step, then punch, a pop up,

638
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 8: then punch, not just give three or four yards and

639
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 8: then punched out. I don't like that. That give momentum

640
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 8: to a great pass rushing team. So if we can

641
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 8: take a where they're run, if we can get them

642
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 8: down by seven points and take a where they're run

643
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 8: and we continue to run against them, they offense, I

644
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 8: don't think they can hold up.

645
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: You know what, I just realized, Jesse, Yes, in this moment,

646
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: I just realized this.

647
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: Nate's got a lot of really. Here's a lot of really.

648
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: I guess you could call them.

649
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 6: We call them schemes or a.

650
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 9: Lot of good you know, thoughts on offensive line plate.

651
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 6: No, that's not the word.

652
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a lot of He's a hustler. Nata

653
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: is an old head hustler, right. He's always got something

654
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: going on. He's always grinding, he's always now. He's one

655
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: of the hardest working people I know. And he doesn't

656
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: have to work hard. He chooses to work this hard.

657
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Nate does not, hardly, ever, say no to an opportunity

658
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: to make money at grabbing a dollar. He has duped

659
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: us for the last I know, probably since he got

660
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: that fancy iPad.

661
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 6: You realize what he's doing. I just realized this. He is.

662
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: He is on one job, working two or three other jobs,

663
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: acting like he's actually doing it. For this job, he

664
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: don't need to watch film for this job, but he

665
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: watches film on this job to talk about the film

666
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: on other jobs.

667
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: That's a good for you, man.

668
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Speaker 3: I just realize what you're doing, and I got news

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Speaker 9: He does the.

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Speaker 6: Time, like your practice for it all times.

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Speaker 5: By the time we get to Sunday, I don't even

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Speaker 5: have notes. By the time I get to do my

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Speaker 5: pregam show. I've talked about it so much. I've looked

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Speaker 5: at the film, I've watched it, I've rehearsed it, I've

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Speaker 5: set things on this show my other shows.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys ever said something on a show and

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Speaker 2: then you talk about it so much you actually talk

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Speaker 2: reaches another show, when you have to be consistent, you

682
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Speaker 2: have to even if you don't believe it.

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Speaker 5: Like even sometime I'll say a score earlier, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I believe that score. I can't

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Speaker 5: change it now with it because I don't know who's

686
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Speaker 5: watching what shut up you said on this show. So

687
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Speaker 5: I try to be as consistent as I can, as possible.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I forget what show I said?

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Speaker 3: What end?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, come on, I know this is a fact

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Speaker 5: that I need to bring up, and I'm like, did

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Speaker 5: I say it on this show?

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take our last break. Still have an

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Speaker 2: Obviously you could tell the last game as well. CD's

756
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Speaker 2: shoulder is really bothering him?

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Speaker 6: Is that something? Is that something you protect him against?

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Speaker 2: Now that we're at this point of the season, do

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Speaker 2: you still run him out there and let him play.

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Speaker 6: Do you rest him? What he want? What do you do?

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Speaker 6: Just if he's able to go, he goes.

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Speaker 9: It's five games left counting this one, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, so yeah, yeah, four is it?

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Speaker 6: Four?

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Speaker 5: Four?

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Speaker 3: Four? Counting this one counting this one is four?

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Speaker 8: Okay the thing and maybe I'm I'm thinking different, but.

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Speaker 5: Three bucks we got you got bucks Philly, Washington. So

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Speaker 5: counting this one is four four, y'all? Yeah, right, tell

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Speaker 5: this CD is still performing. He's still the best thing

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Speaker 5: on our side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: Uh, it'll take a higher up coach, mister Jones or

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Speaker 8: somebody that stopped him from getting on the field at

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Speaker 8: this point.

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Speaker 9: Uh, unlike unlike Zach was Zach.

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Speaker 8: Zach was not performing at the level that was acceptable.

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Speaker 8: That's why I was trying to get him off the field.

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Speaker 8: But the CD is still performing at that and uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, you know he's hurt because he took a

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Speaker 8: reverse the other day, boy, and he thought about turning

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Speaker 8: it up and he.

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Speaker 9: Got on on the ground. Smart move, CD.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think he's still able to go with Jess,

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Speaker 8: give it your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: When the season gets to a point like this, CD

786
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Speaker 5: is not a guy who has to worry about playing

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Speaker 5: for a contract. But what CD is a guy who

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Speaker 5: looks at numbers. Since CD came into the league, his

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Speaker 5: stats have been His first year is nine hundred and

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Speaker 5: thirty five yards. Then it was eleven hundred, thirteen fifty,

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Speaker 5: seventeen forty nine, and now he sits at nine hundred

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Speaker 5: and seventy three yards. He wants to get another.

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Speaker 6: Thousand yard seasons, gonna play at least one more game.

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Speaker 3: He wants to get another thousand yard season.

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Speaker 5: Like that's something that these guys when you have nothing

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Speaker 5: else to play for. It comes down now to we

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 5: joke about this, but it's a serious thing. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know what his contract may have in it, but personally,

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's a it's a badge to

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Speaker 5: say I had another thousand yard season. Right when you

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Speaker 5: go back and look at his career, look at Mike

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Speaker 5: Evans and Tampa Bay. Like Mike Evans is playing well,

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Speaker 5: they still don't playoff hope, but trust and believe Mike

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Speaker 5: Evans is trying to get that eleven year or ten

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Speaker 5: years in a row of a thousand ards.

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Speaker 2: And that makes sense too because just as a fan

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Speaker 2: if you go look at you know, pff for You're

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00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: looking at stats, right, and you're like, oh, this guy

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Speaker 2: does he does he deserve to be in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. Oh let me go look, you just you

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Speaker 2: don't know if they got hurt that year not. You're

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Speaker 2: just looking at rushing yards receiving yards. So that makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense that you want to you.

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Speaker 3: Want to, You wanna, yeah, you want to.

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Speaker 5: You want to get that number to a place where

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Speaker 5: you're saying, well, yeah, this is my fourth year in

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Speaker 5: a row. Yeah this this is my fourth ye in

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Speaker 5: a row of a thousand yards receiving. You know, some

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Speaker 5: contracts may have some bonuses in there that says, hey,

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Speaker 5: if you to this many yards in the season, that

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Speaker 5: you may get. Now, his contract probably not because of

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Speaker 5: the numbers the size of it, right, but thinking about

823
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: other guys, I think, now it's just it's legacy. It's

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Speaker 5: these last couple of games for him are our legacy.

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Speaker 5: How can I go in and yeah, I still want

826
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Speaker 5: to be out there. I want to show the Jones

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Speaker 5: and my teammates that I'm worth the contract. I want

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Speaker 5: to show people that I am tough, that I don't

829
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: quit when things go bad. That's who I am. But

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Speaker 5: there is a point in this where it's like another

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks, Yeah, thirty more yards and I'm in

832
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Speaker 5: the thousand. I'm in the thousand yard club again, and

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Speaker 5: maybe I can get up to that point where because

834
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Speaker 5: right now he sits at eighty eighty five receptions, so

835
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Speaker 5: another fifteen receptions and now I'm in the one hundred

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Speaker 5: yard catch which he has had well the last three years,

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Speaker 5: one hundred and seven to twenty twenty two, one five

838
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Speaker 5: and twenty twenty three is eighty five right now in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, so one hundred yard, one hundred catches

840
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Speaker 5: and a thousand yard season, those things start to look like,

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Speaker 5: you know because again like you said, and you go back,

842
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: no one's gonna know that in the year twenty twenty

843
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: four and looking at stats that his quarterback was Cooper

844
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Speaker 5: rush for more more, you know more most.

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Speaker 3: Of the season.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna say thousand yards, one hundred catches. His numbers

847
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 5: match up to what the numbers say.

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Speaker 6: What is his touchdown is just four?

849
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he may want to get him a couple

850
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 9: more's just you.

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00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Know five he has five.

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Speaker 6: To what's his history touchdowns per year.

853
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: Five twenty, twenty five, six, nine, twelve, five.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. It makes a lot of

855
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Speaker 6: sense in four games, including this game, as far as

856
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Speaker 6: wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody, uh you know, they got old man

858
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Speaker 2: Thilan over there?

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Speaker 6: They got is it Leget? Is that how you say

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Speaker 6: his name?

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Speaker 10: Lee?

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Speaker 1: Get?

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Speaker 6: Lee Get? Yeah? Exavier?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody scare you on there? Or Cube Hubbard? The

865
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: own person you really need to worry about now.

866
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 5: Old mad feeling where he gets you like you have

867
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: ever been to the YMCA and played basketball, and it's

868
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: that one dude in there. Don't really look like he's

869
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 5: a baller, but all of a sudden you see him

870
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: on the court and he is cooking. Dude, Romo doesn't

871
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: look like it, but you get out there and all

872
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: of a sudden, now he is fundamentally sound. You're like, oh,

873
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 5: you can't take the ball from him, right, he's head faking,

874
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 5: he's pump faking, and he's he's jabbing it. And next

875
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 5: thing you know, you look up and that joker then

876
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 5: ran the whole He done ran the whole session all

877
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: day long. That's Adam Thieling, eleven year guy, not fast,

878
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: not fancy can't jam at the line of scrimmage. He

879
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: runs really, really really precise routes, has really good hands.

880
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: He ain't running away from you. But anything intermediate he's

881
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: gonna sell like he's gonna if he runs it out

882
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 5: and up, he's.

883
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 9: Gonna run up.

884
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna sell it.

885
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: His head and shoulder's gonna be pointing one way and

886
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: looking back and next thing you know, you're like, oh, yeah,

887
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: I got him. He turns up and it's a it's

888
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Speaker 5: a complete shit right. Like even against Philadelphia he had

889
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Speaker 5: ten catches for over over one hundred yards, so.

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Speaker 6: So he's still got something.

891
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Speaker 5: He's not a guy that scares me, but he's a

892
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Speaker 5: he's a guy who fundamentally sound. He's like the Tim

893
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Speaker 5: Duncan of Reshiver right now, and you know he's gonna

894
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Speaker 5: find a way to get open and and and get

895
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Speaker 5: he he has big playability, inconsistent hands. He can make

896
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Speaker 5: a big he'll he'll make a big play, a big catch,

897
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Speaker 5: and then he'll drop two to hit him right in

898
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Speaker 5: the hands. So he has this level of inconsistency. If

899
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Speaker 5: they get the running game going, that's where that's where

900
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: the focus has to be. And you know the Cowboys,

901
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 5: we all know now they'll be without They'll be without

902
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Speaker 5: de Marveian overshown.

903
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Speaker 3: So now insert his boy Marafoul Marafoul, Marafoul Luise. But insert.

904
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Speaker 5: Then. I don't want to call a Marifile gig because

905
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Speaker 5: I was joking around Mara Maris Luis Foule.

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Speaker 9: He got right number thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Insert him into the lineup. Now, how does that? How

908
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: does that work?

909
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Speaker 9: Right?

910
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: Because he was starting early in the year. Now you moved,

911
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: you went to to Marrion, and now you got to

912
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: go back to to Marris. So it's gonna be interesting

913
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Speaker 5: because they're gonna try to run the football against the Cowboys.

914
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Speaker 5: And like I said, their offensive line is not bad.

915
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: They're not bad when it comes to rushing the football.

916
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Speaker 8: And they I'm telling you boy, they got a left

917
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Speaker 8: card in a in a center from the Meatball Brothers. Yeah.

918
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Speaker 2: And the Cowboys have gotten defensively against the run better

919
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Speaker 2: right as the years, I mean, as the season's kind

920
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Speaker 2: of progressed.

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Speaker 6: Like, what's the big difference there? What have they done?

922
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Speaker 6: If y'all seen anything is run blitched?

923
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Speaker 5: Okay, they've they've run blitched. I think one of the

924
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Speaker 5: big reasons is you've gotten a little bit better help

925
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Speaker 5: from the guys inside up front. You know, those guys

926
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Speaker 5: have been a little bit more. They've been fighting more.

927
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Speaker 5: It hasn't been just you're getting blown off the line

928
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Speaker 5: five six, seven yards off the line of scrimmage.

929
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Speaker 3: Those guys have at least been fighting.

930
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Speaker 5: And if they can just hold up up front, if

931
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: you don't get if you don't get smacked into the

932
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Speaker 5: linebacker's lap, Eric Kendricks can still make a play.

933
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Speaker 6: Of course, we know.

934
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Speaker 3: Overshown when he was in there could make a play.

935
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Speaker 5: That's been I think the biggest thing is that, and

936
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Speaker 5: then the way that Zim has been using his run

937
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: blitz and his stunts to help guys out to get

938
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Speaker 5: to the running game. Now, the last couple of weeks,

939
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 5: they haven't played really good offensive linemen, so that's that's helped.

940
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be interesting to see because this line

941
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Speaker 5: is not bad, like this is a decent to good

942
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 5: offensive line, especially in the run game. So it's gonna

943
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Speaker 5: be interesting to see how those guys feel. And it's

944
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: a short week. Remember that they played Monday night. You

945
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 5: turn right back around and play Sunday, So you know,

946
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 5: getting the game plan in trying to get your your

947
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 5: body rejuvenated. Where late in the year you're going up

948
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: to Carolina. It's gonna be outside. I'm not saying timp

949
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: it's gonna be like super cold, but it's gonna be outside.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a little chilly probably uh in the

951
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Speaker 5: in in the Carolinas.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 6: Before we get out of here, we just found out

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Speaker 6: that it is a loyal listener's anniversary today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Kay, I don't want say your last name

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Speaker 2: just for the sake of in case you want to

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Speaker 2: be anonymous, but Kay upstairs, it's her thirty fifth anniversary

959
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Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Congrat Oka, Okay, miss Kay.

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Speaker 2: He listens to us all the time, loyal listeners, so

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Speaker 2: congratulations miss Kay.

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Speaker 6: Years thirty five. That's a long time man. Jesse, Nate, she.

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Speaker 2: Was she got the old pendit back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Get the dependent Nate hey Man, good show, Kurt, we

966
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Speaker 2: missed you. Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.

967
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Speaker 2: Josh Jess, thanks for keeping him company. No show tomorrow Friday,

968
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Speaker 2: wing drop hopefully, hopefully, if not, somebody have to grab

969
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Speaker 2: me a chicken tender from the from the lunch room.

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Speaker 6: We will be back on Friday. Y'all have a good

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Speaker 6: day off. We'll see you then.

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Speaker 8: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 8: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.