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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how the heck are you here on a Monday?

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Speaker 3: We are back at training camp Saint John Fish University.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, escape tasker with you.

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Speaker 3: A few rain drops this morning, but nothing that terribly

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Speaker 3: impacted practice. A passing shower, I guess you would call

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Speaker 3: it some more, Sophie. Weather is supposed to blow in

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Speaker 3: later today. We'll see if we can high tail it

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Speaker 3: out of here before that hits. But practice was moved

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Speaker 3: up a full hour this morning to avoid the anticipated

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Speaker 3: thelement weather.

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Speaker 1: The perceived threat of intimate weather, I mean, and rain

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Speaker 1: for ten minutes. Yes, well that was sorry.

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Speaker 2: That was the long and short of it.

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Speaker 1: I felt I felt a rain drop on my elbow

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Speaker 1: and I was out of there.

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Speaker 2: I was did you, uh, did you do anything this weekend?

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Speaker 1: I played some golf golf? Yeah, it was on it.

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Speaker 1: I was in a little boondoggle. Any at a golf resort,

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Speaker 1: you know, your word of the month here in New York?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh did you get any feedback on the Five

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Speaker 3: Presidents text loop about Hall of Fame weekend?

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Speaker 2: Any commentary there?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: I got some texts and yeah, there was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of conversation, not too much about.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fames.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know if anybody was terribly impressed with

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Speaker 3: felt it necessary to.

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Speaker 1: Reached out to. And by the way, happy birthday over

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Speaker 1: the weekend my old coach Marv Levy, who has the

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Speaker 1: same birthday as my one of my older brothers.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: Number ninety nine for Marv, years young.

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Speaker 1: Still one of them.

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Speaker 2: The dude was born in nineteen twenty five. The hell's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: Still one of the top that's when you really wore

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Speaker 1: He's probably one of the top four people I've ever known. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if I've ever met, he's just he's one of the guys.

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Speaker 1: I really mean it when I say it.

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Speaker 2: That was a birthday party, horn.

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Speaker 1: Oh if okay, thank you Tom? The where was I saying? Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the top five top four people I've

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Speaker 1: ever met and known throughout my life?

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Speaker 2: Is your list only four? I always say, why don't

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Speaker 2: you push.

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Speaker 1: It to No. One? I don't know, because I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to exclude I mean, I didn't want to just

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Speaker 1: say he's the top guy, because you know, mom and

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Speaker 1: Dad got to be in there at some point because

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Speaker 1: they're still around two and you.

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Speaker 2: Know wife's in there, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, good catch, bight, that's why. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: may want to he might be the one. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: but uh looking out for you. I've sat and I

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Speaker 1: say it, but I think Marve, if there was a

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Speaker 1: human being Hall of Fame, Marvel being that one too.

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Speaker 1: He's just a stellar guy. Happy to see it, and

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Speaker 1: he's he's getting to the point where he doesn't travel,

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Speaker 1: doesn't like to travel. He does stick around Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: When the Bills were going to uh Chicago for preseason

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Speaker 1: games instead of vice versus Chicago's coming here this weekend,

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Speaker 1: you know, we go out. I'd go to dinner with

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Speaker 1: Mark and his lovely wife Franny wonderful and they they

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Speaker 1: come out and go to dinner. But they stick close

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Speaker 1: to Chicago these days. And understood stand.

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Speaker 3: Why ninety nine years younger, bless him amazing, amazing, really

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Speaker 3: is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, think about this. He was considered you know, old

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Speaker 1: for the profession when.

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Speaker 2: He was coaching. When he was coaching, he was like

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Speaker 2: seventy two.

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Speaker 3: I think it's twenty seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty seven years ago. Right, because his last game

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Speaker 1: was my last game.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, and I've always been this way

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Speaker 3: you know, ninety years old or I'm ninety nine years old.

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Speaker 3: You hear that number and it to me, it's never

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Speaker 3: the guy was born, yes, in nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five, nineteen twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Six, like Frank after World War One ended.

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Speaker 1: Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

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Speaker 2: That was his first and I think that was his

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Speaker 2: first his first term. Yeah out of three, come on.

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Speaker 2: Henry Ford had only been rolling Model t's off the

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Speaker 1: They were still rolling model teas out Marv was he Wow,

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Speaker 1: he is a special dude, and happy birthday to him.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy when you think about that, because I

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Speaker 3: remember I had to do like a remember when I

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Speaker 3: was in middle school, I had to do an oral

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Speaker 3: history with my grandfather where you sit him down and

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Speaker 3: you say, okay, what is what were the most impressive

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Speaker 3: things you've seen in your lifetime?

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Speaker 2: And you kind of get a running little thing. It

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Speaker 2: was a good project.

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Speaker 3: I'll give my seventh grade teacher a lot of credit

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Speaker 3: for that, although her name escapes me, but the thing

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Speaker 3: he and he was born in nineteen eleven, and he

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Speaker 3: said the most impressive thing he had seen, and he

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Speaker 3: lived to be ninety.

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Speaker 2: He lived in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: The most impressive thing he had seen in his lifetime

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Speaker 3: were the advances in aviation.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I.

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Speaker 3: Mean he was born two years after the Wright Brothers

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Speaker 3: in Kitty Hawk, and he saw the space shuttle. Like

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Speaker 3: can you imagine living in that span of time as

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Speaker 3: might be all those technological.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather, my grandfather, my grandfather was born. It was

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Speaker 1: horse and buggy. Yeah, like oh eight, you know it

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Speaker 1: was a couple of cars like here and there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was horse and buggy. And then when he passed,

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Speaker 1: it was like jet airplanes. Man, people were flying all

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Speaker 1: over the globe. That's amazing now for you, for us,

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Speaker 1: for our for my generation, not years so much. You're

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Speaker 1: it was like wow, okay, there you go, and then

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Speaker 1: you know you could you could you had to stay there,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was court and you stay there and

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Speaker 1: you can remember, and then you know it's expensive. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk long distance for only a minute because

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Speaker 1: it was so expensive. It was like ten cents a minute. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: My wife and I still joke about that because we

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Speaker 3: were we were in college before the dawn of cell phones.

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Speaker 2: And she, she's from.

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Speaker 1: You waited till after eleven o'clock from Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I'm from Long Island. We're in the same state. But

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Speaker 3: the long distance was more money. We had to wait

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Speaker 3: till after nine o'clock when the race went down.

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Speaker 1: The race go down.

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Speaker 2: My kids look at me like, I got ten hends.

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Speaker 1: My wife's I think my wife got I think my

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Speaker 1: wife's still somewhere. You've got letters that you don't put

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Speaker 1: a stamp on. You always put the stamp on upside

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Speaker 1: down because they know you're a little different.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, that different thing and now personal and now

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Speaker 3: it's like, well I texted you, I'll say this and

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Speaker 3: when I'm in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: In the seventies, Dick Tracy was a thing. And the

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Speaker 1: ridiculous thing about Dick Tracy was he had a watch

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Speaker 3: Max will Smart talked in his shoe and it was

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Speaker 3: and people were like, remember Maxwell Smart has his shoe?

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Speaker 1: Missed it by that much? It was, Yeah, he's talked

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Speaker 1: Dick Tracy's like, what are you doing, man, He's a

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Speaker 1: cop in New York and he's got a watch where

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Speaker 1: he can talk to the that technology alone. Dick Tracy

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Speaker 1: is like, it seemed ridiculous right now it's real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's easy, pretty well taken for granted.

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Speaker 3: We got to get you the notes from today's practice here,

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Speaker 3: so first and foremost, I'll just kind of go through

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Speaker 3: some things that I noticed.

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Speaker 2: You feel free to chime in here where you want.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good day for kJ Hamler,

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Speaker 3: perhaps his best of training camp. He was involved in

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Speaker 3: the passing game more than I had noticed him on

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Speaker 3: any other day prior, and so he might be catching

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Speaker 3: the passing game in the offensive system. It was a

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Speaker 3: good day for kJ Hamler, And as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 3: the top five receiver spots four are locked.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 3: Tyrrell Shavers has a pretty good handle on if there

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Speaker 3: is a sixth spot, I would put kJ Hamler in

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Speaker 1: Of the other guys and that, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of where I sit on it, because all

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Speaker 3: those other guys have not done anything all that impressive.

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Speaker 3: Chase Claypool is still sidelined with the tow injury. Justin

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Speaker 3: Shorter joined him today with an undisclosed injury. I mean,

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Speaker 3: those two guys got to be on the field, and

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Speaker 3: might go Andy as a bella next. And unfortunately for Andy,

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Speaker 3: inside and backside pursuit. Defensive tackle right at the end

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Speaker 3: of the play completely cleaned him out, scraped his leg

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I was, you know, for a

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Speaker 1: hot second he thought, oh my gosh, he broke his legs,

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Speaker 2: You, but they carted him off.

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Speaker 1: He was in some serious cat and I listen, I

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Speaker 1: get it. It looked like you had something like that

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Speaker 1: raked up his shin. And that's the It hurt hurts

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Speaker 1: so bad. That's the worst pain I was ever in

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Speaker 1: on a football field is getting my shin raked.

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Speaker 7: So I was.

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Speaker 1: He was down and he was feeling it, but he

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Speaker 1: was up just a little after that, walking around and

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Speaker 1: bandage though, So you know, depending on the extent of

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Speaker 1: the last ration, we'll have to see what it is.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, Kyer elam aj Epanessa with batted passes. Elims came

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Speaker 3: on a corner blitz Kingsley Jonathan had a sack. As

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Speaker 3: we know, it was a long list of players not

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Speaker 3: practicing on Sunday. Lyle Collins came back from a knee

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Speaker 3: injury to practice today. Daikwon Jones had a veteran rest day.

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Speaker 3: I would say the defense had the better of play

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Speaker 3: again today, much like they did on Friday night at

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Speaker 3: the Blue and Red practice offense again, just looks a

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Speaker 3: secondarily for his defensive skills.

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Speaker 2: He's been putting his defensive skills on display as of late.

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Speaker 1: That's big.

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Speaker 3: And here's the most impressive thing for me, Steve, And

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Speaker 2: He goes five, eight and a half, one seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: I mean I saw him. I was like, oh, slot corner.

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Speaker 1: If if he's a guy that can play, can return

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's a scenario that I want to throw

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Speaker 1: Five, Oh, okay, exactly where ahead after that?

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Speaker 3: Even more consistent than kJ Hamler has been the tight

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Speaker 3: him to their practice squad two years ago in twenty two,

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Speaker 3: Here was probably the best player on the field offensively.

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Speaker 3: On Friday in the practice at the stadium. I wanted

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Speaker 2: Five wide receivers, four.

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Speaker 3: Tight ends, and when you get in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: Down with it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Uh, that's great, But that's I don't know

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Speaker 3: I will tell you the gate Zach Davidson plays on

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Speaker 1: But I'll say that, yes, that's right. But also this,

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Speaker 1: I think twelve personnels are best option. We'll put whoever

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Speaker 2: It is a big decision.

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Speaker 3: I would put the chances of it probably thirty seventy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He does too many things for them special teams.

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Speaker 1: Wise question right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, but I I'm telling you, I mean, look, we

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Speaker 2: A lot can change between now and then.

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Speaker 3: But if none of these other receivers on the back

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Speaker 3: because Davidson has been fantastic. And again we're talking about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's taking that. Yeah, I don't see how you

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Speaker 1: But that's a big question. If you go four tight ends,

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Speaker 3: Put three on the practice squad if you want. You

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Speaker 1: Right, so that's a possibility. And then if you go ten,

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Speaker 2: You gotta rob from somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Five white out that's nineteen and you got to get

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Speaker 3: Two because the one thing Davidson is Davidson is more

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you can have him line up in block,

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Speaker 3: Not his fourte And that's why I think Morris is

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: We also got an early tell as to who the

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Speaker 3: Last year, as we know, it was David Edwards, but

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Speaker 1: So I like that choice.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see if that continues. To hold true through

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about all this, But Alec

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Speaker 2: Ye, he doesn't care, He's not afraid anything.

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Speaker 1: So he did that today on when Andy Isabella got raked.

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Speaker 1: He was Babbage was yelling back to Bobby was yelling back,

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Speaker 1: right away there was another shoving match right on the

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Speaker 1: first play of the next period. But I was Josh

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Speaker 1: was zero happy man. He was he was walking over

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Speaker 1: there and uh yeah, so that was that was kind

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Speaker 1: of the unique moment in practice today. Defense got Josh

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Speaker 1: ticked to where he was, I mean, he was livid.

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Speaker 3: We also had news before practice. Defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage

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Speaker 3: addressed the media, and I asked him how the call

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Speaker 3: it periods of practice have gone thus far from this

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Speaker 3: is when coach McDermott lets the two coordinators call plays

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Speaker 3: in certain team sessions of practice.

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Speaker 2: They did it on Friday. I think they did some yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They did some again today and Coach Babbage said he's

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Speaker 3: appreciative of the opportunities where he gets to call the plays.

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Speaker 3: He said that the opportunities for the most part went well.

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Speaker 3: They haven't been perfect, but he is welcoming the reps.

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Speaker 3: He also said he reviews the call A periods with

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Speaker 3: McDermott at some point after practice.

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Speaker 2: Later in the day.

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Speaker 3: After that, though, he did reveal that he is going

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Speaker 3: to be up in the coaches booth on game days.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: To me, that's a little bit of a tell Steve.

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Speaker 3: Previously he's been on the sidelines in his coaching tenure

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Speaker 3: with the Bills. Now he's going upstates and I realize

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Speaker 3: he's the defensive coordinator, and knowing Sean can't be upstairs

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Speaker 3: to be eyes for the defense. I guess it makes

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Speaker 3: sense from that standpoint. But when we asked him why

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Speaker 3: he's decided to go up in the coaches booth, he said,

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Speaker 3: have you seen me on the sidelines?

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Speaker 1: Like he's a lunatic, he can't function.

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Speaker 3: But I think I think this is also a step

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Speaker 3: toward him calling the plays. I mean, I guess we'll

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Speaker 3: see when the decision is finally made, presumably after a

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Speaker 3: couple of preseason games.

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Speaker 2: But to me, this could be a step because the.

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Speaker 3: Other reason a coordinator goes upstairs is to see the

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Speaker 3: field better so he can make better calls, and I

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Speaker 3: wonder if that is part of this decision as well.

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Speaker 2: You have to think it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And plus you never know if Sean for

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Speaker 1: some reason needs a minute and he doesn't he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to call plays for like one series, Babbage doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to be on the sidelines to do that. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a concession to that, but it's also I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just typical. I think it'll probably help Bob Babbage

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Speaker 1: stay at the thought level he wants to. Sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you're like the guy that Bobby Babbage is and we

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Speaker 1: saw uh Chad Hall as a wide receiver coach here

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You get these coaches that

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Speaker 1: are towel waivers and they're they're they're on the feet,

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Speaker 1: they're talking their guys and they're really animated. They're passionate

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Speaker 1: about it, and they're they lose their minds once in

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Speaker 1: a while. Being up in the booth keeps you from

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Speaker 1: doing that, and it keeps you above the game, so

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Speaker 1: you could you don't get ticked at the conversation down

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Speaker 1: into the right, you don't get sucked into it. And

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Speaker 1: as a coordinator, you need to be that. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's a bob. I think for Bobby this is

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Speaker 1: a concession so as I got to do that. Even

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Speaker 1: if he got comfortable up there and he'd rather be

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines, I think he knows he's got to

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Speaker 1: be in a spot where you can stay above the fray.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be an adjustment for him. I bet you though,

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Speaker 1: he's really gonna I think at first he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: like it because he has been so engaged with his

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Speaker 1: players in one on one, face to face on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: So let's you know what we have on TAFF for

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Speaker 3: today's show. We're pretty jam packed. Coming up in about

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Speaker 3: ten minutes time, we'll hear from Bill's been a linebacker

512
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Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard. He addressed the media after practice today. We'll

513
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Speaker 3: bring his comments to you, and then second hour the show,

514
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Speaker 3: we're going to be joined on set here by none

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Speaker 3: other than the Hall of Famer, Future Hall of Famer

516
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Speaker 3: Von Miller. Be nice to sit down with him, just

517
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Speaker 3: check in with where he feels he's had physically and

518
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Speaker 3: the outlook he has for that Bill's defensive line, especially

519
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Speaker 3: after all the turnover that happened on the back end

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Speaker 3: of the defense. So we look forward to that conversation

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Speaker 3: as well. We're gonna whip around the NFL very quickly

522
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Speaker 3: here brought to you by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system

523
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Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with the Tennessee Titans,

524
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Speaker 3: who have made a notable add to their secondary. They

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Speaker 3: signed Pro Bowl free agent safety Quandre Diggs a one

526
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Speaker 3: year contract. NFL's Ian Rapaport of NFL Network said it's

527
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Speaker 3: a base value of three million, includes playtime and performance

528
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Speaker 3: based incentives good make it up to five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I know we fielded some questions in last week's mailbag, Steve.

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Speaker 3: People were asking, hey, why don't the Bills look for

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Speaker 3: a higher caliber safety than a Kareem Jackson or Terrell Burgess.

532
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Speaker 3: There are you know, super quality safety is still on

533
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Speaker 3: the market, and they mentioned Justin Simmons Quandary Diggs was another.

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Speaker 3: I was concerned that the price tag hadn't come down yet.

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Speaker 3: Apparently it did on Diggs. I looked, Bills have only

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Speaker 3: about eight and a half in cap space. I know

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Speaker 3: Brandon bean Fields he's got to have about six of

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Speaker 3: that for injury replacements as a cushion.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I suppose you

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Speaker 2: could have done that.

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Speaker 3: But I think the reason they didn't is because the

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Speaker 3: long term plan is to have Mike Edwards, Cole Bishop

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Speaker 3: and Taylor Rap as a part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're safe. I think they like their

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Speaker 1: safety crew. Yeah, am I on here, Mike guess. I

546
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Speaker 1: think they like their safety crew for now, and I

547
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Speaker 1: think they see enough progress, particularly with Taylor Rap because

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Speaker 1: they know he's a known commodity after last season.

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Speaker 3: We heard Bobby Babbage say this morning we're gonna put

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Speaker 3: a lot on his plate. We're counting on him a lot.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, he's he's playing better and

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Speaker 1: has since day one a training camp. He's playing better

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Speaker 1: than any point I saw him last year.

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Speaker 2: We're instinctive.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me, yes, more confident, and he's got

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Speaker 1: a little more, a lot more grit to his game.

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Speaker 1: I think he came out knowing this season was gonna

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Speaker 1: be like his opportunity, and I think he felt like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. He's gonna stand on it. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna stake his territory. I since that

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Speaker 1: in his game, and he's looked good, looked way better

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Speaker 1: than I thought he did at any point last year.

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Speaker 1: He didn't look bad. Last year. He was kind of

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Speaker 1: he was deferential, I think to Furrier and High and

565
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Speaker 1: he let them do their things. We'd come in and

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Speaker 1: he'd fill in for them, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: kind of role he had this year. He ain't filling

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Speaker 1: in for anybody. It's his spot and I think he's

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Speaker 1: acting like it. I like that. It's You've you've been

570
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Speaker 1: able to see a tangent.

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Speaker 2: Courage yeah too. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Pooka Nakua considered week to

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Speaker 3: week after suffering a knee injury yesterday. One source described

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Speaker 3: Nakua's injury as not serious. He left a joint practice

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Speaker 3: with the Chargers on Sunday got up slowly during a

576
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Speaker 3: team drill.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Dolphins.

578
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Speaker 3: Agreed to a restructured contract over the weekend with wide

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Speaker 3: receiver Tyreek Hill that will keep him among the highest

580
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Speaker 3: paid skill position players in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The restructured contract.

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Speaker 3: Is worth ninety million over the next three years, sixty

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Speaker 3: five of it guaranteed, so no new years added to

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Speaker 3: the four year, one hundred and twenty million dollar extension

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Speaker 3: he'll sign with the team in twenty two. But the

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Speaker 3: one hundred and six and a half million in updated,

587
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Speaker 3: fully guaranteed money is the most ever for a wide receiver. Crazy,

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Speaker 3: I think the money's just getting a little nutty now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, one hundred and six guaranteed on one hundred

590
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Speaker 2: and twenty million dollar deal. I mean that's like eighty

591
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Speaker 2: five ninety it's getting closer, only, I mean, make of

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Speaker 2: it what you will. Players made him the number one

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Speaker 2: player in the NFL's top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: You see that Tyreek Hill. Yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I agree with that completely. I understand he's a unique player,

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Speaker 3: but I still don't know if I make him number one.

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Speaker 3: In any event, It's only a preseason game, but for

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders quarterback Jaden Daniels, it's the first chance to

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Speaker 3: show what he can do against another team, so they'll

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Speaker 3: be playing the Jets. Daniels said over the weekend. I'm

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Speaker 3: very excited. I love playing, love to compete. Going out

602
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Speaker 3: there will be a different challenge. Washington coach Dan Quinn

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Speaker 3: said Sunday that Daniels, who by the way, was the

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Speaker 3: number two pick in the draft, will play in the

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Speaker 3: team's preseason opener against the Jets. He just hasn't ascertained

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Speaker 3: whether or not he will start the game. So he

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Speaker 3: will play, And I think we're assuming the same thing

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Speaker 3: for Caleb Williams for the Bears against the Bills on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming he'll start.

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Speaker 3: He did not play in the Hall of Fame game

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Speaker 3: last week, so we may see the debut of Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all different for these guys. I know Josh

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Speaker 1: will probably want to play some he'll be chomping at

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Speaker 1: the bit to do it. I think Sean McDermott will

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Speaker 1: squash that a little bit, you know. Josh may Or

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Speaker 1: may not play Jayden Daniels. Yeah, the young guys will

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Speaker 1: probably get out there and take a series and it'll

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Speaker 1: look bad and it'll look awkward. They'll, you know, be

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Speaker 1: stiff out there. They won't be confident, and it'll almost

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Speaker 1: be like everybody's playing scared for him, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get the guy hurt, and and

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Speaker 1: so it'll look awkward. But it's gonna be fine. He's

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Speaker 1: guy's gonna be fine. For those guys are coming out

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Speaker 1: of college way more polished. Yeah, and he's more ready

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Speaker 1: for it, I think than quarterbacks of past generations. All

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Speaker 1: these guys are.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: For those wondering who the veteran backup is in Washington,

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Speaker 3: it's Marcus Mariota. X Rays on Carolina Panthers receiver Xavier

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Speaker 3: Lagett's foot were fortunately negative, so he didn't suffer any

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Speaker 3: broken bones. Sustained a foot injury last weekend. He's considered

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Speaker 3: day today, and Lions tight end Sam Laporta not practicing

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Speaker 3: today due to a toe injury. He also considered day today,

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Speaker 3: So that is around the NFL topic of discussion for

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Speaker 3: you today. What will define the Bills defense this season?

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Speaker 3: What's that identity gonna be for Buffalo's defense? We know

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Speaker 3: the player turnover that that side of the ball experienced

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Speaker 3: this offseason. A bunch of defensive tackles out the door,

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Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd out the door, and then White Poyron Hide

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Speaker 3: also out the door.

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Speaker 2: So you let us know. Oh and Dane Jackson too

643
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Speaker 2: for that matter. What will define the Bill's defense this season?

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Speaker 3: What do you believe their identity will be? Eight h

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Speaker 3: three h five point fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 3: fifty two five fifty Those are the numbers to get

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Speaker 3: on board. We have open lines for you. We take

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Speaker 3: a break here, but we will hear from Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 3: and take your phone calls when we return here on

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Speaker 3: one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's Radiy.

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Speaker 3: All right back here at Saint John Fisher, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you at training camp Monday practice in

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Speaker 3: the books of week two and inching towards the preseason

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Speaker 3: opener on Saturday, high Mark Stadium, one pm.

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Speaker 2: Kickoff Bills Bears.

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Speaker 3: But we are going to go to the phones now

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Speaker 3: as we are asking you today what will define the

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Speaker 3: Bills defense this season? Lost some veteran leadership, lost some talent,

660
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Speaker 3: there's a new influx of youth in addition to talent.

661
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Speaker 3: What will be the identity of the Bills defense this season?

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Speaker 3: You let us know at eight O three zero five

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Speaker 3: fifty won eighty eight five point fifty two five point

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Speaker 3: fifty And leading us off today is Dave in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Dave?

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Speaker 8: I prompted more by the commis you had made orly

668
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: about the old wide receiver issue rather than about the

669
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 8: defensive question, because when comes of the offense. Going back

670
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Speaker 8: to the draft, I really was was impressed by what

671
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 8: Beam was doing to move us towards what the theme

672
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 8: of positionless players that we were were going out getting

673
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 8: a bunch of guys who really sort of tied in

674
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Speaker 8: sighs to play the wide receiver position, while the rest

675
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 8: of the world was cut up in us losing digs

676
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 8: and losing Davis. I think that what Bean was really

677
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 8: interesting was replacing big catches, and last year the catches

678
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 8: we had were really ended up being Kincaid and knocks

679
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 8: and people like that, and not really the wide outs.

680
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 8: In that last stretch for win six and one to

681
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 8: make the playoffs, you actually saw David's actually go over

682
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 8: on a number of things and traditional wide receiver markers

683
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Speaker 8: and Diggs actually had a much stronger beginning of the

684
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Speaker 8: season and the end of the season. So I think

685
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Speaker 8: that we're going to go along the lines of not

686
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Speaker 8: finding a new wide receiver, but really spreading it out

687
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 8: all you can eat and positionless players.

688
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting theory, Dave. I don't

689
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: know if we're quite there yet, but the game seems

690
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: to be moving in that direction somewhat, not only an offense,

691
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: but on defense to a certain degree too.

692
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Speaker 1: And there's some markers there that you could point to that,

693
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Speaker 1: you know, the things we've seen from Curtis Samuel, the

694
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: way they're deploying him sometimes. Certainly Kincaid gives him that

695
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: flexibility from the tight end spot. He can be in

696
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: line or split out wide. Knox has always been a

697
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: guy that can, you know, stand up and come out

698
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: of a two point stance. James Cook has been a

699
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: running back who we have thought could be broken, brought

700
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Speaker 1: out of the backfield, not just you know, lineup, but

701
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: also in motions and things like that. Shakir, same thing

702
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: could be a slot receiver and outside receiver. So there's

703
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: a lot of markers on the roster and a lot

704
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: of skill sets on the rosters you could point to

705
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: to say, you know, listen, they you know, five guys

706
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: could line up at five different spots and you never

707
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: have to make a personnel substitution. That's pretty neat, and

708
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: it also causes some problems for a defense because then

709
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: you realize that the offense is going to scout your

710
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: weak link on your defense and manipulating, manipulate, manipulation, force

711
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: you to force you to put your weak link on

712
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: their on the guy they want your weak link on.

713
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: So that's always a risk, and they'll do it. I

714
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: mean coordinators will be able to do it. So that's

715
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good spot to be in. The question is

716
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: how willing are the Bills going to be to leave

717
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: in the same five eligible receivers on the field. Yeah,

718
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean through all down and distance.

719
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Speaker 3: The lines are definitely getting blurred between receivers and tight ends,

720
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: and they're getting blurred between receivers and running backs and

721
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, they're getting blurred

722
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: between safeties and linebackers, and you're having more and more

723
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: linebackers blitzing from inside positions on offensive passing towns, So

724
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: there is a blurring of the lines between positions on

725
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. I just don't know if

726
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: we've gone as far as Greg believes it'll go this season.

727
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Speaker 2: But stranger things have happened.

728
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: New trends are set in this league all the time,

729
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: So to keep an eye on that and see if

730
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Speaker 3: it comes to fruition, Let's go to Judy and Buffalo next.

731
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: What's up, Judy?

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Speaker 9: Okay, you know the Bells offense is still as good

733
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 9: as ever. I think they'll be able to score thirty

734
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 9: the thirty five points a game, which should make them winners.

735
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 9: But I'm looking at defense as you are. I think

736
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 9: our defensive line will have an upgrade this year. I

737
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 9: think will be very good. Now we've got Rasul Douglass

738
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 9: at one quarter. I don't even know who the other

739
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 9: quarter is. I'm hoping Elon somehow becomes a miraculous player

740
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Speaker 9: and becomes more than we could ever have expected. I'm

741
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 9: worried about Miller and Milano. I don't know that they're

742
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 9: going to be ready. And then I'm looking at the secondary.

743
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 9: Help me out with the secondary. Who can we depend

744
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 9: on in the secondary?

745
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Well, I would start with Tarren Johnson as a slot corner.

746
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: He's the top five slot corner in the league. I

747
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: would agree with you, Wow, you may not while we

748
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: don't know what cornerback situation gonna be on the outside,

749
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Rasulle Douglas, kyer Elam, and Christian Benford. I think I'm

750
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: with you. Top three those are your top three, and

751
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I think I think kyer Elam has probably had the

752
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: best training camp of any corner on the team.

753
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: He might be a defensive MVP of camp so far.

754
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, kyer Elam has making splash play, taken all over

755
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: the place, taken off Soday night.

756
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: That's that's where it starts. Up front, the safeties. I

757
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: still think this team has high hope for Mike Edwards,

758
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: but he jerked his hamstring bad, so it's gonna be

759
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: a minute before he gets back on the field, and

760
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have an acclamation period, so that really

761
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: hurt their their development. In the back end, I think

762
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards is probably part of that, and as you

763
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: heard me say as well, I thought, I think Taylor

764
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Rapp is a completely different player than he was this

765
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: time a year ago. So that's where I'm at. On

766
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: the secondary, I think they're younger, they're tons more athletic

767
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: at the corner position, and with Rasseul Douglas out there,

768
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: they're also more experienced. Because of that, If you traded

769
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: Tredevious White for Rasoul Douglas, Rasoul's a different kind of player.

770
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: He's more of a between the years kind of player

771
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: than Tradevious was, and the between the years kind of

772
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: player helps other guys elevate more than an elite corner

773
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: like Tredevius had been when he was here. So I

774
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: think Rasseul Douglas gives him a little something special at

775
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, so the conversations Rasoul can have with Cayir

776
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: and Christian Benford and even tarn really are going to

777
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: elevate the play of those guys as the seedling rolls along.

778
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Because of Rasoul's you know, the study habits he has,

779
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the way he watches the game, the chances he's willing

780
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: to take. I think it's really gonna help that that

781
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: back into that secondary. So That's that's where I'm at

782
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: with the safety conversation and Cole Bishop, you know, there

783
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: you go.

784
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: I mean, there's still a way, and I understand why

785
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: people are concerned, like Judy and others about the safety position.

786
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: It's fear the unknown.

787
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: You don't know what these guys are capable of, much

788
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: like he didn't know what Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde

789
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: were capable of in twenty seventeen, Much like he didn't

790
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: know what Terrell Bernard was capable of when he got

791
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: named the starting middle linebacker with no preseason games under

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: his battle. You know, I'm not guaranteeing you that it's

793
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: going to turn out just as good at safety as

794
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: it did at middle linebacker for the Bills last year.

795
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: But this coaching staff is very good at developing players,

796
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: getting them acclimated even in short periods of time. So

797
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: hopefully that's the case again here.

798
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this, whoever they play at safety is not

799
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: going to embarrass himself. They're gonna have him ready, They're

800
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: not gonna put anybody out there who can't do what

801
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. So there's that. I just think

802
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: I've seen too much from Sean McDermott's defenses to worry

803
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: about a guy going out there and not being fit

804
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: for it.

805
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Let's jump back on the phone lines into George in Chicawago.

806
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: What's up, George.

807
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 10: How are we doing guys?

808
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

809
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

810
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

811
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 11: Go ahead, Okay, I actually wanted to talk. I think

812
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 11: our defense is going to be really fast. Like you said,

813
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 11: they're young, They're going to be really fast, and saving

814
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 11: Vaughan for a third down is going to be It's

815
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 11: going to prolong this season and make them more dangerous

816
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 11: come late in the season in the playoffs. But what

817
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 11: I've been praying that Joe Brady would do since the

818
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 11: emergence of Kincaid and Cook last year was go with

819
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 11: three tight ends, two running backs any like inside the

820
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 11: twenty five, and then if they keep the big guys

821
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 11: in there, you split everybody out and Josh goes into

822
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 11: shotgun and throws it or runs it, or if they

823
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 11: bring in all the little guys to stop the pass,

824
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 11: then you pound the ball and you have that option.

825
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 11: With just those guys, you don't even need any of

826
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 11: the receivers on the field.

827
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the possibility.

828
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting proposition.

829
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's gonna be they're bread and butter,

830
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: but it's a nice thing to be able to turn to.

831
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: If you've got three tight ends worth their salt, and.

832
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: They're'll beaten out. They're not playing in a vacuum. They've

833
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: got the hardest, one of the hardest schedules in the league,

834
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: and the teams they play are gonna have answers. But

835
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: there you go. You're right. If there are gonna be

836
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: some teams forty nine ers, you know, the Jets. You

837
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: go out there and you run thirteen personnel, then break

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: the formation and spread them all out, and they don't care.

839
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna feel like that we got you. Our guys

840
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: are fine. That's the kind of players other teams are

841
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna have. Now, not everybody's got a Taron Johnson, you know,

842
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: but some teams do. They've got some guys that can

843
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: play down in the box as a safety or a

844
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: slot corner who's who's feisty. They may have cornerbacks who

845
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: don't mind getting in the middle of it. So the

846
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna have some answers for that, but

847
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: it certainly is gonna put them in a mental bind

848
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: and then it involves your coordinator staying out ahead of

849
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: it as well. So if he calls the wrong defense

850
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: and has the wrong and they have the wrong check

851
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: package attached to it and you go out there with

852
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: the motion they haven't seen and all of a sudden

853
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: you got them. But that's the chest patch. That's the

854
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: NFL anyway, you know, and you bang heads over it.

855
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But yes, all that stuff that you

856
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: just said about having the same five players, same receivers,

857
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: tight ends, running backs on with Josh and going and

858
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: being able to run short yardage, goal line plays, red

859
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: zone plays, third and fifteen plays with the same five guys.

860
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: That is gonna put some pressure on a defense that

861
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: hasn't had that kind of pressure put on it very often,

862
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: if at all. So they're gonna be, yeah, they're gonna

863
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: be referring to their vest pocket and make sure they

864
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: got the cards to fill that. You know, that's gonna

865
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: be a real big question defense have to answer.

866
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Right, And let's not forget Joe Brady made clear that

867
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: what he wanted in his receiving cores and amongst his

868
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: receiving options in the passing game was diversity and that's

869
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: not just with specific players, it's with personnel groupings as well.

870
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't dismiss thirteen personnel out of hand. I

871
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: think it will be a part of Buffalo's play. And

872
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: it's how big a percentage that's up for debate.

873
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: The thing about diversity, it's one thing you can always have.

874
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: You can have the big, rangy, athletic wide receiver, then

875
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: the small, quick, small wide receiver. Then you have the

876
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: possession of wide receiver, and you have the speed guy

877
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: that goes by everybody or what you need. There's five

878
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: guys who have all of that or enough of all

879
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: that that at they're a problem. They can win. That's

880
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. It's it's two different things. It's

881
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: easy enough to go out there and have a fast guy,

882
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: a tall guy, a shifty guy you know, and a

883
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: and a big and a physical, thick wide out who

884
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: can take handoffs that kind of thing. You need five

885
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: guys with all of that stuff. That's what we're talking

886
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: about more at this positionless football.

887
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, But when we come back,

888
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: more of your phone calls will in Buffalo will lead

889
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: us off asking you what we'll define the Bill's defense

890
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: this season.

891
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: What's their identity going to be? You let us know

892
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: at Ato three.

893
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: Zero five fifty eight five fifty two five fifty more

894
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: of your phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live,

895
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

896
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

897
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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here at training camp at Saint

898
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: John Fisher. Thank you once again to our good friends

899
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: at Wegmans for providing us with lunch here at Saint

900
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: John Fisher Wegmans, the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills.

901
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: Today we had some subs and some salads. Greek tomato

902
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: and cucumber salad, Danny favorite sub which has just about

903
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: every Italian meat under the sun.

904
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: I had some of that. It was delicious.

905
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: The Greek man that was yeah, I love I love

906
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: olives and cucumber, tomatoes, purple onions and what it feda

907
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: And they.

908
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: Can't go wrong with any sandwich that has Capa cola,

909
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: salami and spicy ham on it. That's all I'm saying.

910
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: Can't go wrong. Salted cured meats. That's where it's at, man,

911
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: That's where it is at.

912
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: Totally with you.

913
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: So thanks to Wegmans for that. Yeah, it was always

914
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: really this stepped up their game here. I remember about

915
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: this training camp, MVP of training camps. Nondescript as this

916
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: training camp has been, as they all run together for me,

917
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: this will be the training camp of the Wegman's lunches.

918
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: Fair enough, we do have to get back to the

919
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: phones at eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight

920
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty that's the number to get

921
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: on board as we are asking you what will define

922
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: the Bill's defense this season? Back to the phone as

923
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: we go into Will and Buffalo?

924
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: What's up Will Brownie?

925
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 10: Don't forget to include the Mayo and oil on that

926
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 10: bad boy and number two?

927
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's on there, don't you worry.

928
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 10: And doing Congratulations on becoming the voice of the Bills.

929
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 10: You got big shoes to fill, but I know you're

930
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 10: gonna knock it out of the park. Hey guys, I'm

931
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 10: calling out of the left field here. I was out

932
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 10: of town last week, but I read an article that

933
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 10: was kind of bothersome to me. Previous Saturday was about

934
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 10: Terry Fagoula wanting Josh Allen to step up and become

935
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 10: moral leader. And you know, it's kind of I don't

936
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 10: know if you saw it, but you know it's kind

937
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 10: of like, you know, and you know, you got an

938
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 10: employee and management. You know they're doing a great job,

939
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 10: but they're picking his shins a bit, you know. The

940
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 10: way I see it, I think Josh is doing a

941
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 10: great job. He leads by example, and yeah, you can

942
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 10: be a little jolly, you know, dolly gee whiz every

943
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 10: once in a while. But I think his leadership and

944
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 10: actions provide plenty of leadership in that locker room. I'm

945
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 10: just interested in your thoughts. You saw it, did it?

946
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 10: Gilbert Grape? Like it's eating me right now?

947
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

948
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't see it. I heard about it.

949
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that everybody needs to get too bent

950
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: out of shape about it. Josh has been an exemplary

951
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: leader here. I think he can lead in a different

952
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: way now that it is truly a democratic.

953
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: Wide receiver room going forward. You know, I think.

954
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: Diggs had a lot of pluses to being here. He

955
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: helped his offense in a measurable ways. I don't think

956
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: there's any debate about that. But I also think it

957
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: made the dynamic a little more challenging in terms of

958
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: how Josh led with the offense that is not here now,

959
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: and so I think it is unquestionably Josh's team, Josh's offense,

960
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: and I think that's going to allow him the freedom

961
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: to lead in a more I think authoritarian is not

962
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: the right word here, but in a more demonstrative way,

963
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, and I expect him to fully

964
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: fill those shoes more than capably. So I think, to me,

965
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: I think it's much ado about nothing. Quite frankly, not

966
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: to say that mister Pegoula's opinions don't count. They obviously count.

967
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: He owns the team. What he says goes, and I'm

968
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: not saying that what he said is falling on deaf ears.

969
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: I just think Josh has led in a pretty good

970
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: way already and if that can be tweaked due to

971
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: the different dynamics in the locker room and make him

972
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: an even better leader going forward, I think the team benefits,

973
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: and I think that's what I think, that's what mister

974
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: Pegoule is hoping to see.

975
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody's unhappy with what Josh is doing.

976
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: I do think even Terry Pagoula and certainly Sean McDermott

977
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: want more from everybody all the time, because they want

978
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: their players, their coaches, their administrators, their staff, Brownie and me.

979
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: They want us all to try and self improve all

980
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: the time. I think Terry echoes that, and that's been

981
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Sean's mantra since he's been here. Nobody's acting like Josh

982
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: hasn't done more than enough for this team to win, win,

983
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: and they have no reason to think he's not going

984
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: to do that and more now. But that's what you

985
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: always look for, and I'm sure that's what Terry's talking about. Yeah,

986
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: there's nobody's over here is fretting over the contribution that

987
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's going to make this year.

988
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really don't think it's of any grave

989
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: concern at all, because I think Josh has kind of

990
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: proven himself as a leader on this roster already. The team,

991
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: I mean, the guys on offense follow him like the

992
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: pied piper. He's loved by everybody.

993
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, off they go onward and upward as far

994
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: as we're concerned.

995
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: Got to take a break here when we come back

996
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: in our number two, mister von Miller is going to

997
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: join us right here on set at training camp. As

998
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: he outlines how he is doing, He's looked really good.

999
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: He's looked like the old Vaughn in training camp thus far.

1000
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: We'll get it straight from the horse's mouth when we

1001
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: return here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

1002
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1003
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

1004
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back our number two here on a Monday,

1005
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, please to be joined by Edge Rusher.

1006
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Maybe you heard of him before. His name's Von Miller,

1007
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: Von Good to have you sure?

1008
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: Uh, let's begin here because it's been evident to us

1009
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 3: that your trademark burst is readily noticeable in the practice setting.

1010
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: Uh do you feel any different than you felt, you know,

1011
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: at this time last year?

1012
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel different. I just feel like myself.

1013
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: I always say.

1014
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 12: You know, after coming back from ACR injuries, you know,

1015
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 12: you kind of think about it a lot. I think

1016
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 12: no matter how much I tried not to think about it,

1017
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 12: you know, it was still on me subconsciously. And this

1018
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 12: year is not there and I'm able to just move

1019
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 12: and jump the snap and play football like I normally would.

1020
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can give people an idea because we hear

1021
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: all the time about acls, and it is. It's a

1022
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: long road back and the grades. The physical stuff is

1023
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: one thing, the mental stuff's another. I went I didn't

1024
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: go through an ACL, but I went through five operations myself.

1025
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: It's just a process you got to go through before

1026
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: that you feel normal and don't think about it and

1027
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: it takes it And that's basically what the problem is,

1028
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: more than the physical part.

1029
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, yeah, you know, it's always a mental aspect

1030
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 12: whenever you're trying to recover from any injury. You know

1031
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 12: you have five, but it's always a mental aspect that

1032
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 12: comes with being a pro again. You know, rehab and

1033
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 12: playing football in the control of setting is different, but

1034
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 12: playing real football out there where the bullets are lib

1035
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 12: is a totally different story.

1036
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 7: And you know, year two on the back end of that,

1037
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 7: you know, I feel good.

1038
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: No.

1039
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: I like to think, you know, optimistically. I like to

1040
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 7: think best case scenario all the time.

1041
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 12: And you know, first time I told my ACL I

1042
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 12: came back, I had fourteen sacks, yep, And I was

1043
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 12: I was like, I'm gonna do it the same exact

1044
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 12: way I'm attacked rehab, the same exact way. I had

1045
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 12: the same mindset going into the second one, and it

1046
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 12: just didn't pan out like I like I thought it would.

1047
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 12: And you know, everything happens for a reason, and nothing

1048
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 12: in life is a coincidence. And I got a new

1049
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 12: appreciation for you know, football and my love for it

1050
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 12: at thirty five years old and going in the year fourteen.

1051
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 12: I feel, I feel good. I feel good where I'm at.

1052
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: How so, how long was it before you could go

1053
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: out practice and then and not have to a right

1054
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: come off the field? I mean, you probably still do

1055
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: some physical stuff, but before it wasn't the first, the

1056
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: one and only priority for you know what I mean?

1057
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: You get injury, come off and every time you take

1058
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: a rep where you take a play, finish a practice,

1059
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, how that hold up? Is it? Are

1060
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: you at the point now where you don't even think

1061
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: about it again?

1062
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1063
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 12: I mean, I mean, I mean I did have two

1064
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 12: acos on one knee like that. I mean, that's that's

1065
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 12: the reality of it. But I think for me, you know,

1066
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 12: I just you know, surrendered to the outcome. You know,

1067
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 12: if it's if it's for me, it's for me. If

1068
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 12: it's not, it's not And I just attacked every single

1069
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 12: day with everything I got. I put all my energy

1070
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 12: into it, whether that's on the football field off the

1071
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 12: football field, and whatever guy.

1072
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 7: Has for me, he has for me and what he

1073
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 7: does and he does. And I love this game. I

1074
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 7: love being out here. I still feel like I got

1075
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 7: a lot of football left and.

1076
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 12: I just come out here and I tag it that way,

1077
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 12: and you know, everything else that happens around that, I'll

1078
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 12: just let God take care of it.

1079
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: So what I don't have to tell you in this offseason,

1080
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: there has been veteran turnover on the defensive side of

1081
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: the football. You're one of the holdovers that's still in

1082
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: the fold here defensively. But I mean, we can run

1083
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: down the list if we want to. But the back

1084
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 3: end is a lot younger and a lot different.

1085
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: What do you what do you believe?

1086
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: Because I realize you haven't played a preseason game yet

1087
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: or a regular season game, what do you believe is

1088
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 3: going to be the identity of this defense?

1089
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 12: I think you know any good defense. I think you

1090
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 12: know defensive line is the tip of the spear. You

1091
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 12: know Matt Mulano and TB you know, they're the chiefs

1092
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 12: on his defense and we have a really good secondary,

1093
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 12: have a really really strong secondary, have two of the

1094
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 12: best corners in the league. So we have to all

1095
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 12: play in unison and it's about playing complimentary football.

1096
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 7: We got Josh Allen on the other side.

1097
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 12: If we can get some turnovers, if we could be

1098
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 12: top five and turnovers like we have been like you

1099
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 12: know traditionally here and not allow any deep balls, you

1100
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 12: know we'll be good. We'll still play, you know, our

1101
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 12: signature style of defense that you know Buffalo Bill's fans

1102
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 12: are used to seeing. And like I said, it all

1103
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 12: starts with the defense and lone tip of the spirit.

1104
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 12: Greg Rousselo's gonna have a huge year. Edge Epeness is

1105
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 12: going to have a huge year. And I think you know,

1106
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 12: Ed Oliver is our shooter this year. He's our point guard.

1107
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 12: You know, I can expect you know, ten plus sacks

1108
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 12: from from Ed Oliver, maybe even twelve plus sacks from

1109
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 12: Ed Oliver. And if we can, if all those things

1110
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 12: can happen for us, get some turnovers, give Josh Allen

1111
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 12: a short field, doesn't it doesn't matter who we have catching.

1112
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 8: The ball over there.

1113
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 12: It doesn't matter who we have running ball, who we

1114
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 12: have blocking. We got Josh Allen. The guys over there,

1115
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 12: they're gonna be able to make something happen.

1116
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: So you said it. You're thirty five, so you've been

1117
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: around the block at least twice. I mean, yes, right,

1118
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: so new defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage, and you've I mean

1119
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: you've learned from some great ones. I mean, you know,

1120
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: give us, give us a synopsis about how it's going

1121
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: to be. You know what the vibe in the room is,

1122
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: how Bobby is. You know, give us a little I

1123
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: don't want to say a critique of what Bobby's like,

1124
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: but you know, give us a synopsis.

1125
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 12: You know, Bobby Babbage, he's been a great coach for

1126
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 12: a really, really long time. And I wouldn't even say

1127
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 12: he's a new right, the new defensive coordinator, because he's

1128
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 12: done so many things behind, you know, the scenes on

1129
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 12: getting this defense together, whether that's with the linebackers or

1130
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 12: the safeties. He knows his defense inside out, and I

1131
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 12: think most importantly, he knows how to get He knows

1132
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 12: how to get guys going. He knows how to get

1133
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 12: guys to respond and go out there and put their

1134
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 12: best football for it doesn't matter what you call up

1135
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 12: there is no magical play out there. There is no

1136
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 12: end all, be all defense that that's that's for any

1137
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 12: offense out there. You got to prepare the guys each

1138
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 12: and every week. You gotta have the mindset right and

1139
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 12: you got to be able to motivate guys and get

1140
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 12: guys going each and every week. And that's what Bobby

1141
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 12: Babbage does great. He brings the energy each and every day.

1142
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 12: He's smart, he's intelligent. He's tapped in with what the

1143
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 12: offense is doing on the other side of the ball,

1144
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 12: what we want to do, what we're trying to accomplish,

1145
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 12: and he knows how to bring he knows how to

1146
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 12: get the most out of the players that we have here.

1147
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: I know when you first signed with this club, you

1148
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: knew coming in this is a rotational system. As much

1149
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: as you want to be out there, you know they're

1150
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: going to roll people. Now, you know, at this point

1151
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: in your career, do you have a best formula to

1152
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: get the most out of von Miller over a seventeen

1153
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: game season.

1154
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: What is that in your head? What's that formula?

1155
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 12: Just give me a couple of series, Just give me

1156
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 12: a couple of series. Of course, I mean, I still

1157
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 12: got that dog and I hardly want to be out there.

1158
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 12: It's hard for me to sit on the bench and

1159
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 12: see the other guys running out there without me. You know,

1160
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 12: I still got that in me, but you know, you

1161
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 12: got to put the team first, and it's it's bigger

1162
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 12: than me. And you know, I want to win a

1163
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 12: super Bowl, and that's the most important thing for me.

1164
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 12: I got to put my own personal ideas and the

1165
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 12: things that I want personally to the side.

1166
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 7: I want to win a super Bowl.

1167
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 12: I want to win three super Bowls and that's the

1168
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 12: most important thing for me, and for me to be

1169
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 12: able to contribute to this defense in a way that

1170
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 12: I know that I know I can. I gotta have

1171
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 12: some risks and I gotta be able to start, you know,

1172
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 12: series two, not just third down.

1173
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 7: Not just for down.

1174
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 12: But you know, you let the guys go after the

1175
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 12: first player of the game. It really doesn't matter who

1176
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 12: starts the game, you know, just I'm gonna be a

1177
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 12: part of the flow. I'm gonna be a part of

1178
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 12: the ins and out. So I'm gonna be a part

1179
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 12: of the rotation. And when I'm in there, if it's

1180
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 12: for me, it's for me.

1181
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 7: If it's not, it's not. You know, I'm gonna try.

1182
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 7: I want to try.

1183
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 12: I'm try to make it happen for sure, But you know,

1184
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, I can only control

1185
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 12: so much. But I'm feeling good and everything that I

1186
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 12: can control, I got it tight and I'm ready to

1187
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 12: play football.

1188
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: So the only thing we've known about you here in

1189
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo we didn't we didn't know you as a young player.

1190
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: We had watched it from way far and as you've

1191
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: gotten to this point, you showed up in Buffalo. You're

1192
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of a mentor and kind of an old head,

1193
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, one of those guys that got You've been

1194
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: around you and guys come to you say, Hey, how's

1195
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: this going? What do I do here? And what's going

1196
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: on here? So you've seen a lot of guys come in.

1197
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the young guys here, Javon, Solomon, Kingsley, Jonathan,

1198
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: guys like that. And we know Greg Russeau, A j

1199
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: and Panessa are going to be part of the mix.

1200
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: But these young guys who have come in, we've seen

1201
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: bursts from them. And you know how there's a reason

1202
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: they call young guys. They got fresh legs. I mean,

1203
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: they look like it, So give us some idea about

1204
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: the young guys that are in your room.

1205
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 7: You know, Javon Solomon, he reminds me a lot of myself.

1206
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 7: That's what I thought too. He's a lot stronger than

1207
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 7: I was. He's chance.

1208
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's a lot stronger than I was. He's you know,

1209
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 12: he can bench press the whole house. You know, you know,

1210
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 12: but he reminds me of myself. We spent time this offseason.

1211
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 12: He's a good dude. He's a good dude off the

1212
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 12: football field as well. Like when I when I introduced

1213
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 12: him to my selings, they just naturally gravitward it.

1214
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 7: Uh, they gravitated towards Vaughan.

1215
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 1: It was like, Uncle Vaughan, is any closer in age

1216
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: to your kids than Yeah?

1217
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 7: I think I think. I think I'm fifteen.

1218
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 12: I think I'm thirteen years older than the guy. But

1219
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 12: you know, when you started playing football, all this stuff

1220
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 12: goes out of the window. But he has a he

1221
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 12: has a a really good burst. And whenever you're looking

1222
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 12: at young pass rushers, that's that's one thing that you

1223
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 12: can't coach. You know, you can coach up, you know,

1224
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 12: technique on how to play the run better. You can

1225
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 12: coach him up on on fundamentals and all that other stuff,

1226
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 12: but you can't coach just raw instincts and burst, and

1227
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 12: he has all that stuff.

1228
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 7: And along with with Kingsley as well.

1229
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 12: This is his third year in the league and he's

1230
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 12: coming on lightly and they both have a really good

1231
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 12: person They really have really good being around the edge.

1232
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 12: All the other stuff. You can coach him up. You

1233
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 12: can give him a cross chop and you can give

1234
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 12: him a long arm. You give him speed the power,

1235
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 12: but the two things that you need to be a

1236
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 12: great pass rusher, they already have those two things naturally.

1237
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: I know you said that you believe there are big

1238
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: things ahead here for Greg. Why is what is going

1239
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: to be different for him this year as opposed to

1240
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: the previous couple of years.

1241
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 7: I think it's just more shots on gold.

1242
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 12: I mean when I first got here, I thought, you know,

1243
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 12: it was Tom for Greg, and he showed he's definitely

1244
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 12: showed burst of that.

1245
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a little bit more consistent.

1246
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 7: He's all of six to twelve.

1247
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a totally different pass rusher than you.

1248
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 12: He's all a six twelve and if you look at

1249
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 12: all the other guys at six to twelve, from Miles

1250
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 12: Gear to TJ why you know, to the longer guys,

1251
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 12: he has all of those things. He can play first down,

1252
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 12: singing down, third down, fourth down, and if you want

1253
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 12: to go to a fifth down, he can do that too.

1254
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 12: You know, he's able to knock balls down, he's able

1255
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 12: to create separation with his long arms inside, he has moved,

1256
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 12: he has speed of power. You know, he has everything

1257
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 12: that you need to be a top pass rusher in

1258
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 12: this league. Is just putting together and running the stats up.

1259
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 12: But as far as rawability and what you look for

1260
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 12: in a prototypical pass rusher, he has that.

1261
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: Some one of the things that we're watching in the

1262
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: media out here because you know, I don't think they've

1263
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: decided yet. Sean McDermott did a masterful job of calling

1264
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: the defenses last year, and that's why he got a

1265
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: head coaching job because he's really good at it, right,

1266
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: and he and Bobby have been going back and front,

1267
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's gonna give Bobby a chance to

1268
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: call those defenses. Why don't you give us because we

1269
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: know you guys are gonna go out and play defensive

1270
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: and he always marvel at all these you know, quirky

1271
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: offensive play callers and all that stuff, But a defensive

1272
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: play caller, can you give us an insight as to

1273
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: what kind of difference that makes for you guys? When

1274
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: do you notice a play caller is like, Wow, this

1275
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: guy's getting.

1276
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: It for me.

1277
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 12: I'm so tapped into a situation situation on football tom placement,

1278
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 12: where we are in the field, what the offense is

1279
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 12: trying to do, score, And when I have when I'm

1280
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 12: have a defensive coordinator thinking the same way that I'm thinking,

1281
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 12: you can kind of feel like because they're not on

1282
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 12: the field, they're not actually you know, playing the game,

1283
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 12: but when you can kind of predict what they're gonna

1284
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 12: call next, that's where I feel like I'm tapped in.

1285
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 12: And Bobby, you know, Bobby is like that. Bobby is

1286
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 12: a really intelligent coach. I don't I really don't think

1287
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 12: he's going to be a defensive coordinator Forlon. He has

1288
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 12: a he has a very very bright future. All of

1289
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 12: these coaches are are really really tapped in when it

1290
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 12: comes to football and scheme and being very intelligent on

1291
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 12: what what the game shows you and what there is

1292
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 12: to do, and you know, Bobby Bavage. He might not

1293
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 12: be a defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills floon. He's

1294
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 12: super He's super, super bright. He has everything that it

1295
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 12: takes to be a great coach.

1296
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: Last one I got for Yvon. Preseasons coming up. I know,

1297
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: coach takes input from vets, like, hey, what do you

1298
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: feel you need in the preseason to be ready for

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Speaker 3: the regular season. What do you feel you need in

1300
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 3: the preseason to be ready for the regular season?

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Speaker 7: You know?

1302
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Speaker 12: For me, you know, I practice hard. You know, I

1303
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 12: practice harder now that I've ever practiced when I was

1304
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 12: when I was younger. It's only so much. It's only

1305
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 12: so many things in the game that that you can do.

1306
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 12: I'm you know, for just just chilling out there. But

1307
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 12: at the same time, I'm a coach's dream. You know,

1308
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 12: if the coach wants me to play, you know, in

1309
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 12: the preseason, I will. You know, I'm not gonna fight

1310
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 12: them on that. But me personally, I think I think

1311
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 12: I'm good. You know, it's only so much trade that

1312
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 12: I got on a tire. It's only it's only so

1313
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 12: much that I got.

1314
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: Save it for the ones that count.

1315
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 12: It's only it's only so much that it's only so

1316
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 12: much that I got left, and I would like to

1317
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 12: spend that when you know, the bullets off for real.

1318
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 12: But at the same time, you know, I practice hard

1319
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 12: each and every day I come out here. I practice

1320
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 12: like it's a game. My heart beats in all these

1321
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 12: little situations that we have on second down, first down,

1322
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 12: third down, fourth down, like.

1323
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a real game.

1324
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 12: So you know, I don't think it can get it

1325
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 12: could get any more live than me by putting on

1326
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 12: actual jersey and being in the stadium final.

1327
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Speaker 1: We wish your good health and a lot of a

1328
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Speaker 1: lot of production this year. I hope you uh stack

1329
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: them on the me too.

1330
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Speaker 7: I appreciate you guys, and I would like for that.

1331
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 7: I would like for that that happened too.

1332
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Speaker 3: Man.

1333
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Speaker 12: You know, coming here, we had a lot of you know,

1334
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 12: big dreams, and I had those big dreams, and you know,

1335
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 12: I want to go out there and get sax and

1336
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 12: in the game and close it. I want to do

1337
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 12: all those things that I came here to do too.

1338
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 12: And you know, if it's me, is for me, and

1339
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 12: if it's not, it's not. But I firmly believe that

1340
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 12: it's that is my time. I put in all the work.

1341
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: You were there as well when you saw big turnover,

1342
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: when when Peyton became a Bronco and you guys, you

1343
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: were on the cusp of that for a lot of

1344
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: a handful of years before you got there. And then

1345
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: when when Peyton got there, it's like, Okay, then we

1346
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: got a chance. And now you're on another team that's

1347
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: got some turnover and you feel like you got a

1348
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: little younger, a little more athletic in the back end,

1349
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: you got linebackers that are going in your offense and

1350
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: still got that guy. I mean, you gotta re you

1351
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: really have to feel like you're on the cusp of

1352
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: another one.

1353
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, we've been on the We've been on the cust

1354
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 12: here for a long time. And you know back to

1355
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 12: you know the Peyton days when we first when Peyton

1356
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 12: Manning first got there in twenty twelve, that was supposed

1357
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 12: to be the year that we won a Super Bowl.

1358
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 7: It didn't happen for us.

1359
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 12: That was the Maha miracle with Kelby Jones over the toime.

1360
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 12: Second year was even better year for the Broncos. Peyton

1361
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 12: Manning broke the touchdown record. I think he threw for.

1362
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Speaker 1: Fifty year offable.

1363
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Speaker 7: You go to the super Bowl and then we and

1364
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 7: we lose to the Seattle Seahawks.

1365
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Speaker 12: The next year we reloaded again and we lost to

1366
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 12: Andrew Luck in the division around and then we had

1367
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 12: extreme We had so much turnover going in the year

1368
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 12: four with Peyton Manning and this is he was on

1369
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 12: his way out and everybody was saying, does he got it?

1370
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 7: Does he still got it? Can he still do it?

1371
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 12: And we end up changing everything together and going to

1372
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 12: the Super Bowl again and winning it. So it's just

1373
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 12: about having more shots on goal and the key piece

1374
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 12: of that is having a great quarterback, and we got

1375
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 12: that and we got to do everything around them to

1376
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 12: support him and put him in great situations. But it's

1377
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 12: just it's the Josh Allen show here and it's been

1378
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 12: it's been like that for a long time. And all

1379
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 12: these other Super Bowl contending teams they got quarterbacks, you know,

1380
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 12: similar to Josh. But it's it's our time and we

1381
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 12: got we got the one to do it.

1382
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 4: For sure.

1383
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: We're looking for seeing some Thanks von Miller scenes on

1384
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: defense as well this season, So thanks for the time.

1385
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: It's always weird appreciate that Von Miller joining us here

1386
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: on one Bill's life. I like that he laid out

1387
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: the Denver year over year transition and how as soon

1388
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: as Peyton Manning got there, they thought it's over.

1389
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: We're taking it for three more years.

1390
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, think about they went through some of the

1391
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: things that we've kind of thought that the Bills are

1392
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: going through, the thirteen second game and wide riding all

1393
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: the way back through the years and the home run

1394
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: throwback and you know, and the Broncos went through that

1395
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: as well, with you know, that mile high miracle as

1396
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: a hail Mary over the top from Joe Flacco put

1397
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore in it, and it's like it's they had it.

1398
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: The Broncos had him, and they slipped right away and

1399
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: they were gone then and then they finally did when

1400
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: when it was it looked like they were past the window,

1401
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: it slam shut. Petate man didn't even play all the

1402
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: regular season games that year, and.

1403
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, his game was they did the decline. They did it.

1404
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: You know, their defense kind of carried him that year.

1405
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: And not for nothing.

1406
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning didn't win his first Super Bowl until his

1407
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: eighth season in the league. And much like Alan and

1408
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: every other AFC quarterback has to deal with getting past Mahomes.

1409
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 3: Manning had to try to get past Brady. Yeah, it

1410
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: took him his eighth season.

1411
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: To do that the first time.

1412
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: It's I think it's pointless to compare guys in their careers.

1413
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it anyway. I saw a stat where,

1414
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: if you know, Josh has been known throughout his career

1415
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: as this guy he turns it over way too much.

1416
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: That's what the narrative is. He's got fewer turnovers than

1417
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had, He's got fewer turnovers than Peyton. Manning

1418
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: had fewer turnovers than Dan Marino, had fewer turnovers than

1419
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: John Elway had at his in that point of his career.

1420
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the list of all these

1421
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, Josh has fewer turnovers than any of those

1422
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: guys at this point of his career, and more touchdowns

1423
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: and way more touchdowns and.

1424
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: More than anybody in the history of football.

1425
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: Let go, and so you got to think at some

1426
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: point it will come together for him. He has elevated

1427
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: his play at every chance, He every turn, he is

1428
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: in the conversation for MVP every year. In fact, Josh

1429
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: is one of the few players you'll ever know that

1430
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: his critics have to argue against why he shouldn't be

1431
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: the whole the MVP. It's most of the time it's like, well,

1432
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: this guy's here, this guy's there, there they have I

1433
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: have to come up with reasons why Josh isn't. It's

1434
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: not just saying well, he's not as good as this

1435
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: guy or that guy. There's some stuff where Josh is

1436
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: always better than the MVP candidate or the guy who

1437
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: wins it Lamar, whoever Aaron Rodgers won it for a

1438
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: couple of years, Lamar and then Pat. Of course, Josh

1439
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: is always the guy in that conversation. It'll probably happen

1440
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: for him at some point, don't know when it's gonna be.

1441
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of player he is. And that's

1442
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: why the window remains open here.

1443
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: What will define the Bills defense this season? That is

1444
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 3: the question we put to you at eight h three

1445
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

1446
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: fifty Those are the numbers to get on board. Got

1447
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: open lines through you gonna crack open. The tweet sheet

1448
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: here brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1449
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Mike on the

1450
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: tweet sheet says, staying healthy because that was the difference

1451
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: last season. No way they would have lost that game

1452
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: to the Chiefs with most of their starters on the field. Yeah,

1453
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: you didn't have Matt Milano, you didn't have Torel Bernard,

1454
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 3: Rasull Douglas was playing on one leg, and Tyrell Dodson

1455
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: wasn't healthy either.

1456
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: So it is yeah, you gotta you gotta find a

1457
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: way to play. I've set you know, we had t

1458
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: shirts made up. Somebody sent us. You gotta play well

1459
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: on that day. And if you don't have your guys,

1460
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: it makes it all that much harder. You got four

1461
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: starters out right up the middle of your defense, You're

1462
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: you gotta compensate, and it's hard to do that when

1463
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: you get to the division round of the playoffs and

1464
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: they've got all their guys and you don't m.

1465
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: From I care about Buffalo stuff. They say, what we'll

1466
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: define the Bills defense this season. Torell Bernard, he had

1467
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 3: a great first season as a starter. However, if he

1468
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 3: can build off his success and improve, he can be

1469
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: an elite player in this league. I thought he was

1470
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: the team's defensive MVP last year. Just with all the

1471
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: crooked numbers he's putting in every defensive end stat column

1472
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 3: you can think of. He sacks, interceptions, force fumbles, fumble recoveries,

1473
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: total tackles like he did everything last year.

1474
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: He is an elite player. I think what happens a

1475
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: lot of times, it's the same thing that he used

1476
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: to happen years ago with the Pro Bowl. You have

1477
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: to put up a great year and then repeat it

1478
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: before anybody believes it. It happens to a lot of

1479
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: guys at different positions. Happens to quarterbacks, wide receivers. When

1480
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: you back up a good season with another one, then

1481
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: it's like, all of a sudden, you are that God

1482
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: happened with Matt Malano on this team. He had a

1483
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: great season. Then the next year he comes back and

1484
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: has another great season. Now he is an All Pro.

1485
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 1: It was the same season he had last year. You

1486
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Uh So, Yeah, Terrell Bernard is

1487
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: an elite player, and you're right. If he stays healthy,

1488
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: you have every reason to believe he's going to be

1489
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: the same guy.

1490
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 3: Steve on the tweets sheets says how effective the pass

1491
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: rush is will dictate how well this defense will play.

1492
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 3: That does not have to mean we have to have

1493
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: a ton of sacks. You need to get pressure on

1494
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 3: the quarterback and make him get rid of the ball

1495
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 3: on our time, not his. Yeah, I mean there's some

1496
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: there's some truth to that. And look, people talk about, ah,

1497
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 3: the pass rush, it wasn't great last year, and you know,

1498
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: von Miller disappointed, he underachieved, he wasn't ready to play.

1499
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 3: Whatever the case might be. Steam finished sixth in the

1500
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: league in sacks. Yeah, with fifty four.

1501
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know. If that's a down year, I'm

1502
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: pretty happy.

1503
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: I'll sign up for it. Yeah, you're right, but he's

1504
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: right too. The quarterback has to get rid of the

1505
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: ball on time, and that's what takes the pressure off

1506
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: your secondary because if your pass rush, and you can

1507
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: you can imagine this, if your pass rush is consistent

1508
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: over time, game after game, quarter after quarter, series after series,

1509
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: half after half year in year out, your secondary starts

1510
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: to be conditioned with a mental clock that they know

1511
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: the ball's coming out and they're gonna start it's just

1512
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: human nature. They're gonna start jumping around, they're gonna know

1513
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: that clock and they know they don't have to cover

1514
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,879
Speaker 1: past a certain point. So they're gonna be ultra aggressive

1515
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: within that time clock. And if the more consistent you

1516
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: give them that same clock over and over and over again,

1517
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: the more aggressive they will become right up until they'll

1518
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: get more aggressive as that clock winds down, even though

1519
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about two and a half seconds, right that

1520
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: two and a half seconds. At two seconds and they

1521
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: know the ball is now, they're gonna be ultra aggressive

1522
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: on the ball. They're gonna know the ball's coming out

1523
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: and they're gonna look for it. And it leads to

1524
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: a huge amount of turnovers. It leads to a lot

1525
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: of tipped passes, passes, defense, all of that stuff. When

1526
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: you're pass rush is consistent, doesn't mean there was gonna

1527
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: get a sack, but it means if the ball is

1528
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: still in the pocket, it's going to the ground. As

1529
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: consistent as you can do that, the more confident your

1530
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: secondary becomes behind you, and they start jumping routes right

1531
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: at the play clock, right at that pass rush clock,

1532
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: and they start getting results as because of it.

1533
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 3: That's why I was happy to hear what von Miller

1534
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: was saying about Greg Rousseau. Yeah, and he's not the

1535
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: first person to tell us they're expecting a big season

1536
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 3: out of Greg here in year four.

1537
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, he just want him to stay healthy. He

1538
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau, I think has been hampered. You know, he

1539
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: had the high ankle sprain remember two years ago. Years ago.

1540
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: He's just you know, he's been a guy. And I

1541
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: say this like an old guy. Bless his heart. He

1542
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: goes when he's not feeling one hundred percent.

1543
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: Hey, he still plays right.

1544
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: He's available. That is an enormous asset, but it's also

1545
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: a curse because he never plays exactly like he wants

1546
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: to play. He's out there and he does a nice

1547
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: job in the in the down and distance and all that,

1548
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: but when he comes to the pass rush, he's never

1549
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: quite there because he just doesn't feel one hundred percent.

1550
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: And that's, you know, good on him. But man oh man,

1551
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna be important this year more than ever. He's

1552
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: to stay healthy and in one piece and feeling good.

1553
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: Matt on the tweets sheet says, what will define the

1554
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 3: defense is the play of the secondary. After losing so

1555
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: many processed guys, do they take a step back or

1556
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 3: will the reload be successful? Steve and I have had

1557
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: conversations about this before.

1558
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: On this show, and.

1559
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: I think we're of the belief that as long as

1560
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: you put players in those positions that are worth their salt,

1561
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: they don't have to be all pros, as long as

1562
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: they're solid players. This defensive scheme affords players the ability

1563
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 3: to play well, play consistently within the framework of this defense.

1564
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 2: It has very simple fallback rules.

1565
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: When you're not one hundred percent what the call might

1566
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: be or how to play a certain look, and that

1567
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: minimizes mental errors, guys being out of alignment, blown coverages.

1568
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: They're all minimized by the base prints of this scheme,

1569
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: and that keeps guys playing relatively consistent football, which translates

1570
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: into steady and dependable defense.

1571
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it, but this coaching

1572
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: staff has a in use you mentioned this finger quotes process.

1573
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: They they only give these players what they've earned, and

1574
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: once they've earned it, they ask those players to get better.

1575
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: And however, that order goes where the kid's getting better

1576
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: and better and better, and finally they give them the

1577
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: opportunities he's earned and he starts to make those. Then

1578
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: they give him a chance to earn more, and they

1579
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: give him a chance to earn more. Trust and they

1580
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: give him a chance, and they ask more of him.

1581
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: They're always challenging them to get better and better. It

1582
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: seems highly effective for player development. Highly effective. We talk

1583
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: about it all the time on the show about how

1584
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's hallmark as a Bills coach has been his

1585
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: defensive acumen and his ability to develop players on both

1586
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And so I'm anticipating this falls

1587
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: right into his wheelhouse. We asked it Brandon Bean when

1588
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: we had him on the show early in camp. I said,

1589
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of falls into your wheelhouse. You

1590
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: guys came in here with a drought roster and put

1591
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: it together and by the end of the season you

1592
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: had every reason to win that wild card, win a

1593
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: playoff game, and you didn't ultimately do it, but you

1594
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs with a roster that for seventeen

1595
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: years before that couldn't get there. You guys did. So

1596
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: this falls this year's roster, in this situation, falls right

1597
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: back into that wheelhouse and what they've done best when

1598
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: they first got here, and that's put together a roster

1599
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: and get the most out of it. Now, there's a

1600
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: lot on this roster that they did not have in

1601
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when they took over. I mean, goodness, gracious,

1602
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: they're light years ahead of it. So but they do

1603
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: have some guys that come in and need to get

1604
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: acclimated and en up to speed and then let's put

1605
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: an edge on it. And I think that falls right

1606
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse of this coaching staff and GM and

1607
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: culture that they've built.

1608
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

1609
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: as promised, we will hear from Bill's middle linebacker Torel Bernard.

1610
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: We're talking about defense. Who else better to give you

1611
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 3: the state of the Bills defense than their middle linebacker

1612
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: and play caller on that side of the ball. To

1613
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: Rel Bernard, coming your way next here on One Bill's Live,

1614
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right

1615
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1616
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 3: with you want to pass along the comments of Buffalo's

1617
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 3: middle linebacker spoke to the media after today's practice to

1618
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 3: provide his state of the Bill's defense. How everything's coming along?

1619
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: So here is Terrel Bernard.

1620
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: What has it been like, Justine to him.

1621
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been fun, definitely an adjustment, like you said,

1622
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 5: I think, you know, he knows so much about what's

1623
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 5: going on in the situations that he wants to communicate

1624
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 5: everything to everybody, and you know, having the mic, I'm

1625
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 5: the one that he's talking to, and uh, you know,

1626
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 5: I've been I've been in his room for the last

1627
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 5: two years, so I'm used to how he communicates and

1628
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 5: what he wants to get communicated.

1629
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 6: So it's been, it's been. It's been fun, for sure.

1630
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I get to understand what he's

1631
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 5: thinking pretty much every single snap, which you know, helps

1632
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 5: me and then in turn helps the defense really be

1633
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 5: on the same page.

1634
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 6: How fast is he How fast does he talk when

1635
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 6: he's in there?

1636
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it gets it gets pretty fast, you know, especially

1637
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 5: when when uh, you know, the game's moving pretty fast,

1638
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 5: situations are happening quick.

1639
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 6: He tries to get it all out.

1640
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 5: But you know, like I said, he knows so much

1641
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 5: about what's going on, so you know, really, you know,

1642
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 5: I tell him as much as he could tell me

1643
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: before the snap happens.

1644
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm with it. So it's been, it's

1645
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 6: been exciting.

1646
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: I asked him what you're like when you're bad, because

1647
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: you always seem so even hampered.

1648
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: He's like, for God that he's coming off the field,

1649
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: you know what he's gonna flow.

1650
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 6: What is it that I think? It's just passion, man.

1651
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 5: I think you know, you put so much effort, so

1652
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 5: much time, and so much energy into it that you

1653
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 5: want to be perfect. And at the end of the day,

1654
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 5: we know we're not going to be perfect, but that's

1655
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 5: something that we strive for. And you know, when something happens,

1656
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 5: whether it's my communication or the execution of the defense,

1657
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 5: you know, I take full responsibility if if we're not

1658
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 5: up to that standard. And so sometimes you know, I

1659
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 5: can I can let my emotions go and really really show,

1660
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, how how I'm feeling, and you know, I

1661
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 5: don't think it's a bad thing, but really understanding that

1662
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 5: what I'm expressing, you know, kind of it goes off

1663
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 5: to everybody. So you know, just keeping that in check

1664
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 5: a little bit and then you know, making sure that

1665
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 5: whatever happened we come off and get it fixed. What

1666
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 5: if you've seen out of Dwan Smooth both as a

1667
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 5: player and like on the personal side as you get

1668
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 5: to know him this training.

1669
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 6: Camp, Yeah, Smoth's been awesome.

1670
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 5: I think just his football intelligence and you know, who

1671
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 5: he is as a as a person, as a man,

1672
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 5: and then as a player.

1673
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 6: You know, he's very consistent every single day.

1674
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 5: And you know, I think just his energy and his

1675
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 5: drive and you know, his committedness that he brings really

1676
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 5: rubs off on everybody.

1677
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: What's it been like, you said Bobo's so pocketed all.

1678
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: What's it been like watching him kind of take that

1679
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: role and then also Sean kind of faving and fall

1680
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: back a little bit more of that than person.

1681
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, for Bobby, it's been awesome.

1682
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 5: I think you know, he mentioned it before, but just

1683
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 5: seeing him go around to everybody's individual periods and you know,

1684
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 5: coach up the details and you know, bring his energy

1685
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 5: and his effort. You know, it's been it's been good

1686
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 5: for everybody. I think he has a say obviously and

1687
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 5: pretty much everybody's everybody's details of what we're getting done.

1688
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 5: And then you know, with Sean, I think him taking

1689
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 5: a step back and being able to see everything. You know,

1690
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 5: he's still involved with us and he'll come in and

1691
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 5: you know, give us tips here and there. But I

1692
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 5: think just his his overall you know, awareness of every situation,

1693
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 5: of every position. I think it's it's awesome to see.

1694
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's got to be tough. I could imagine,

1695
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 5: you know, just the job.

1696
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 6: That he has to do.

1697
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 5: But seeing how how involved and you know, how concentrated

1698
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 5: he is is awesome every day.

1699
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 3: How have you seen Matt Milana progress throughout Cam's kind

1700
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 3: of ramping up your fourth season here?

1701
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, we've we've seen Matt be Matt,

1702
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 5: you know, coming coming off of however long it was

1703
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 5: without him playing football, to you know, stepping on the

1704
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 5: field in training camp. I think he's improved every single day.

1705
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 5: You know, I've I've said it before, but just his

1706
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 5: his energy, his communication, his effort, and then obviously you know,

1707
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 5: his playmaking ability. It helps everybody on the defense and

1708
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 5: you know, definitely it helps me having him right by

1709
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 5: my side every single play. And you know, it's been,

1710
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 5: it's just it's been. It's been good to have him.

1711
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 5: You know, I'm grateful that that he's back.

1712
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 12: You were with Taylor was on the team last Jerry's

1713
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 12: obviously a bigger role, more responsibility.

1714
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 6: What have you seen from them?

1715
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: How is he evolved in in that role?

1716
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1717
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 6: I think just his communication from the back end.

1718
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 5: You know, he handles a lot of a lot of

1719
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 5: the stuff that we're doing in coverage, and you know,

1720
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 5: he's with me all the time, every snap, he's on

1721
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 5: my side, and uh so I'm looking back, I'm talking

1722
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 5: to him pretty much every play, just like I'm talking

1723
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,440
Speaker 5: to Matt, and I think, just you know, like I said, hismmunication,

1724
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 5: his effort, his knowledge of the defense has continued to grow,

1725
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 5: and you know, I have full, full trust and full

1726
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 5: faith in him that he's he's getting us in the

1727
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 5: right spots.

1728
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: In that communication. Does he need too or is it

1729
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: going beyond you know, just when you're on the field

1730
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: and a football like you, I guess get to know

1731
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: each other better as your goals.

1732
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 6: It's so important.

1733
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 5: And yeah, for sure, you know, we go to dinner

1734
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 5: and we hang out outside of ball, we do things,

1735
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 5: so you know, the personal relationship builds into you know,

1736
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 5: the relationship that you have on the field, and you know,

1737
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 5: I wholeheartedly believe that and that's something that you know,

1738
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 5: we've worked at and we've you know, grown honestly over

1739
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 5: the last couple of years now. So just having that

1740
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 5: personal connection, you know, I know, I know what he's

1741
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 5: saying before he says it, and you know, that makes it,

1742
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 5: that makes it so much easier.

1743
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 8: Thank you.

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01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

1745
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: All right.

1747
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: So that's Terrell Bernard addressing the media after practice today

1748
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 3: and he kind of echoed some of the same things

1749
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 3: that Bobby Babbage said prior to practice when he addressed

1750
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: the media, which is, it's gonna be an awful lot

1751
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: on Taylor Rapp's plate to run the back into things.

1752
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 3: It sounds like he's going to be the communicator, the

1753
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: chief communicator back there, connecting the secondary to the second

1754
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: line of the defense, that being Bernard and Milano, and

1755
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: then on from there. Because Babbage basically said, we're putting

1756
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: an awful lot on Taylor Rap's plate this year, but

1757
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 3: it's because we believe he can handle it. So, I mean,

1758
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 3: I think it can mark him down an ink as

1759
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 3: you're starting strong.

1760
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: Safety, yeah, I think. I mean, we're not breaking any

1761
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: news now, I mean, but you and I both said

1762
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: what we thought about the kind of training camp Taylor

1763
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: Rap has been having, and it's just been confirmed by

1764
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: one of his teammates, a guy who's been on the

1765
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: fendt and his defensive coordinator. I'm glad Sometimes we go

1766
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: out there and we think we see some stuff in

1767
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: the practice field, it turns out, you know, the next guy,

1768
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: the guy's next day, the guy's cut or some whatever.

1769
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: You know. So sometimes we don't have a clue. But

1770
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: on this one, I think we got it right. Yeah,

1771
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap is having a great camp. He's a different

1772
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: player than he was, and he looks like he feels

1773
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: like a different player. He's playing like he feels like

1774
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: a different player. If you get the difference between just

1775
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: acting like a different player, you can feel the way

1776
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: he thinks. It's much different than he did a year ago.

1777
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: And I'm and right now it is what it seems

1778
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: like he's going to be the guy.

1779
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 3: Elsewhere on the tweetsheet, regarding what will define this Bills

1780
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: defense this season, Christine says they need to be the

1781
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: best team everyone eats.

1782
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: Needs to be the motto.

1783
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 3: That is the motto on the offensive side of the ball,

1784
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: but hopefully it is on the defensive side as well.

1785
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 3: And you know, I think you can look at football

1786
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: as a whole at this level and realize that yes,

1787
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: it's a matchup league, Yes talent matters, but it's usually

1788
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:55,839
Speaker 3: the team that plays most selflessly that is usually standing

1789
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, provided that injury hasn't

1790
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: compromised the level of their talent. It looks like the

1791
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: Bills as a group of players are trying to embody

1792
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 3: that this year, maybe more than ever before in the

1793
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: McDermott era. And I'm not saying that it wasn't a

1794
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: priority before, but it seems like more of the guys

1795
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: are pulling in that direction now than ever.

1796
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does seem like they've got a good vibe going.

1797
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: It does seem like their coaching staff has a good

1798
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: vibe going. It seems like it just seems like there's

1799
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 1: no wrinkles in that fabric, you know. I mean, it

1800
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: just is is exactly the way running the way they

1801
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: want it to now. It hasn't always looked great at times.

1802
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: There's been some guys that have you know, there's been

1803
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: mistakes that have been made, but the growth is evident.

1804
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: I think the talent level all over the roster is evident.

1805
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: I think they've got enough. I think there's no question.

1806
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: You compare this roster to the one in twenty twenty

1807
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: when they had that big run twenty one, twenty two,

1808
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: twenty three. This roster, to me feels equivalent to those

1809
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: and maybe even better in some nuances of it. Yeah,

1810
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: I think this is a team that's gonna be a

1811
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: real problem for other teams. I think, you know, despite

1812
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: their schedule, I think it's gonna be right there at

1813
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: the end, They're gonna be another It's gonna be another

1814
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: contending year for the Bills.

1815
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 3: Luke on the tweets sheet says the D line and

1816
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: their attack mentality will define the Bills defense this season.

1817
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 3: The continued evolution and growth of Oliver Rousseau and Epanessa

1818
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: and the resurgence of von Miller will make the D

1819
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: line the strongest and deepest unit of the team. They

1820
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: will lead the way and allow Milano and Bernard to

1821
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: fly around and make plays. Well that happens. Yeah, they

1822
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: will define the Bills defense this season. If all those

1823
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 3: guys have bannery years, Yeah, obviously.

1824
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a hard time being the strongest and

1825
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: deepest unit of the team when they when the guys

1826
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: they line up against are so big and deep over

1827
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: on the offensive line side of it. But hey, if

1828
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: they're the second best or whatever, even if they if

1829
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: they do get to be the strongest and deepest unit

1830
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: of the team, that's awesome because this offenfensive line is

1831
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: going to be right there with him there. I continue

1832
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: to be impressed with the offensive line and this defensive line.

1833
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: I think, and you heard von Miller earlier in the show,

1834
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Javon Solomon and reminded. Von Miller says,

1835
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: he's like me. And that's exactly what I saw too.

1836
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: He's got long arms, plays with great leverage and an

1837
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: enormous amount of burst off the ball. He's got an

1838
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: incredible ability to bend off the edge. He's got and

1839
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's maybe two inches short, he's

1840
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: got some he's got some gifts, big hands, long arms,

1841
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: and a and a power plant. The guys really powerful.

1842
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, I have every I just am

1843
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: further down that rabbit hole of Yeah, this defensive line,

1844
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: this defensive line is going to be better. He's gonna

1845
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: be good Kazu type. It's going to be better than

1846
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I think we thought at a couple of points this offseason.

1847
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got eleven inch hands, thirty four inch arms,

1848
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: and he's barely over six foot, so unusually long levers

1849
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: for a guy his height, and that can make up

1850
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: for the lack of height when it comes to the

1851
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: pass rush game.

1852
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here.

1853
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: One final segment to go, some final thoughts on the

1854
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 3: tweetsheet when we return here on One Bill's Live Presented Bike,

1855
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: A lot of health.

1856
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1857
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live Chris Brown,

1858
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 3: Steve Tasker. Final segment to go here on a Monday,

1859
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: a day that I'd probably say went to the defense.

1860
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 3: We'll see if things flip back to the offensive side

1861
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: of the ball tomorrow. Final thought here on the tweet

1862
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 3: sheet where we've been asking all day today, we will

1863
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: define the Bill's defense this season, Jack says, hopefully continued

1864
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: strong play from the secondary with the new safeties fitting

1865
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 3: right in and not skipping a beat, combined with the

1866
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: best linebacker pair in the NFL to tie the whole

1867
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: unit together. Finally, the return of Vaughn to his pre

1868
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: injury form and growth of the other defensive ends due

1869
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 3: to his presence.

1870
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Yep, I think at the finally end of the show,

1871
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: I think what I hope defined to this defense and

1872
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: all that stuff is good. I think what I hope

1873
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,799
Speaker 1: defines this defense is that we have different, maybe fifteen

1874
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: guys that are going to rotate through this defense on

1875
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: a regular basis. I hope there are fifteen guys who

1876
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: make fifteen play you know. I think every single guy

1877
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: on the defense in a position at some point this

1878
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: season to contribute to a win where you get a

1879
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: guy you know, Epanessa and Russeau tipping passes to themselves,

1880
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Von with a sack, Bernard and Milano and all the

1881
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: guys in the secondary getting interceptions and passes defense. The

1882
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 1: more playmakers you haven't defensively, the better your defense is

1883
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: going to be. I don't care if they're a top

1884
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: ten defense or not. I want them to be spectacular

1885
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: every once in a while, right.

1886
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: And that's the difference that we saw from Leslie Fraser

1887
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: coach defenses to the McDermott coach defense last year. The

1888
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 3: question is, if it's turned over to Babbage to call

1889
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: the plays, a guy who's worked under both of those men,

1890
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 3: what does it look more like? My inkling would say

1891
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 3: McDermott's splash play style defense, but the proof will but

1892
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 3: being the result.

1893
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I want this defense to be timely, playmaking and opportunistic.

1894
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I hope they just there's just no way to beat

1895
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: them because they've got somebody everywhere.

1896
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and more importantly healthy, because that has been a

1897
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: bugaboo for the defense, whether you're talking about the divisional

1898
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 3: playoff loss to Cincinnati w and de Kwon Jones is out.

1899
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 3: All the guys that were out last year, stay healthy.

1900
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: Maybe they get over that hump.

1901
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: That's it for us today, off day tomorrow, so we're

1902
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: back in studio one Bill's Drive.

1903
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: We'll see at one pm.