WEBVTT - McKenzie Mitchell shows the wrestling world what she knows about THREADS 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.520 Hello everyone. It is between the train Fran scene and 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.520 you are listening to Eyes up here with print scene 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.360 and I heard reading the network or wherever you get 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.960 your podcasts. As always, I am Joys on his dad. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.960 What up dog? Jest Sir of Jubilance is stop looking 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.800 at me like thatman, you are what You're looking at 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.840 me like you got something ruined, and that scares me. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.680 I have the same look at my face every every 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.320 week five years. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.160 A man, you don't when you when you have something stern, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.039 when the hands are sparing in the wheels, galling in 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:11.600 your head, I know exactly, say you know good, you 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.120 know I'm right. You're thinking it's something else. You're you're 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.440 on a different universe right now. You're thinking of something 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.720 completely not what we're doing right now. And I know 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.280 what you're thinking and trussing me off. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:25.800 It's rather. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.360 You're ridiculous. Oh my god. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.320 I just every every time we step behind these microphones 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.000 and never know what's going to happen next, And god, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:39.600 I love every second. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.280 Oh my god. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.759 The sorry I had to I had to drop it. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.360 I will beat it, but I love it. I love it, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.119 love it, love it. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.640 Never a dull movement. No, you know, there's always a 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.600 way to keep my name out there, and I tend 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:59.080 to find it good or bad. I'm out there yolo. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.600 Lately it's been finding you. I know, right, you're not 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:04.840 finding it, it's finding you. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.880 I don't I don't know. I don't know. Is there 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:14.000 heat now? Do I have heat with Live Morgan? Is 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.360 there some kind of heat going away? 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.000 It seems like there was a little bit of heat. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:18.280 That's so crazy. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.840 You know, I'm not trying to create a ruckus. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.040 But well, you know, you kind of start at one. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.160 Me too. I was just casually doing my job with you. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:30.040 I'm producing it. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.519 I don't know, man, I've never said a bad word 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.000 about her. I'm just I'm gonna go on the record 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.800 have I no, no, never said a bad word about her. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.680 I think she's a good little worker. I think she's 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.200 got a great look, really pretty girl. I've said that 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.359 so many times. And then I don't I didn't understand 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.359 the tweet. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.440 I don't know. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.920 I don't know if she's just like putting herself over, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.640 if it's a slap in the face in my direction. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.800 I can't. I know I was trying to and I 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.080 don't know, certain people are telling me one thing, certain 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.040 people are telling me another thing, and I'm just like, hmmm, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.680 I don't know what I don't know what it means. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.080 And if you don't know what I'm talking about. It 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.880 all stems from our YouTube video that we did. Go 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.560 watch the video. It's over on ecw D verfrean scene 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.519 over on YouTube all about the trademark, about the Queen 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.560 of Extreme name. It's a big thing, big to do, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:32.880 lots of fights on Twitter last week. It was crazy, crazy, crazy, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.440 But I didn't get to mention it on the show 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.640 because it happened after we went off the air, in 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.160 real time, like we just went off the air. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.320 Mind blowing. It just it's like one of those things 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.800 like you ever see Old School with Will Ferrell, Like 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.960 remember the scene where he blacked out, you know where 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.920 he went on that speech, he blacked out, Like it 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.040 all happened so fast. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.440 I find a black I'm gonna have to go watch 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.320 that again because I don't remember that scene. But you know, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.320 I'm the type of person I know that not everybody 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.000 is going to like you in this world, and I 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.240 am one of those people that I want people to 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.000 like me. I don't want people to dislike me for 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.640 something that I didn't do or didn't say. And anything 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.320 that I've ever said was never directed at any of 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.640 the ladies. It was always directed at the company at 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.479 the WWE. So you know, if there's a personal grudge here, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:37.960 it's not from me. It's definitely towards them. And you know, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:42.120 it's it's kind of sad when you just you look 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.680 at someone and you admire them and then they tweet 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.120 at you and you don't know how to take it. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.440 I don't I don't really know what she meant by that. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.640 So if it was a slap in the face, well 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.719 so be it. But I never said a negative word 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:56.160 about her. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:01.599 No. No, those fans, those fans nasty word. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:06.480 They're nasty. This this generation. I'm sorry I have to say, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.600 and I sound like I'm one hundred years old, but 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:15.880 they are nasty little bitches, so nasty they just the 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.760 way they were things and and call their name calling, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.960 and they're they're trying to like a lot of it 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.160 is like you're old. I got a lot of that. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.080 You're so old. It's like, oh my god. And they're 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.800 like I told you, they're between the ages of sixteen 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:39.320 and twenty two. You're old, your development get out of here, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.800 like what? And then my fans are just like, you're stupid. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:47.560 Do your homework. You're girl wrestling one oh one history 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.440 and learn who the legends are. I'm telling you there 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.839 were there were huge fights back and forth. It's crazy. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:55.760 You're stupid. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:03.760 I'm older. We are older, not old. I'm older. How 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:04.360 dare you? 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.880 Hey? Look, I mean I hate to tell everybody, but 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.359 the guy who's in one of the main spots for 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.160 WrestleMania is about your age. So you're old, but the 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.320 rock seems to be doing pretty good these days. Yeah, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:16.640 he is. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.960 Age is just the number of my friend. I'm out here, 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.240 moving and shaken. They can all kiss my ass. I'm 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:30.320 gonna do all these little little bitches can all kiss 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.040 my ass. I'm so sick. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.440 Wait a second, I think that's trademarked. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:39.880 Oh my god, I'm sorry, but it's rude. People are 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.719 super rude. I would never go on somebody's socials and 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.800 be like, who are you? What did you do? It's 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.880 like Google is your friend if you're too young to 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.880 know anything about me or easy w google it, check 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.919 us out, see what you missed, you know? But it was. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.960 It was so great. It was like my fans were 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.000 like piranhas. They just came up out of the water 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.719 and they were just attacking. And there's one thread where 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.120 there's this one girl that called me old and she 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.480 got one hundred and forty nine responses from my fans. Holy, 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.880 they destroyed her. I didn't have to say a word. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:24.800 They destroyed her. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:30.440 Wow, man, it just did some man. Huh, I said, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.040 I got a breath again from all this. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.320 It's so ridiculous. I'm so over it. You know, Like 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.880 I said, I know, not everybody is gonna love me, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.160 and I'm not everybody's generation. I get that, and not 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.880 everybody's in ECW mark. That's fine, but there's no reason 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.440 to be rude. No a name call and curse at 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:55.480 me and ridiculous things. I'm telling you. My twitter's still 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.720 blowing up. Look nineteen, I just cleared it every time 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.080 I heard it, but twenty it pops back up to twenty. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.320 I'm just gonna stop reading it. I'm done crazy, I'm 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.760 done anyway. You got a good show. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.600 Really big shoes, shoe. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.280 I don't even know what we're doing, but uh, let's 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:17.200 send over The link. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.239 Link is on the way all right, and uh. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.320 We're gonna get our guests on and I'm gonna I'm 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.239 gonna calm down. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.560 You need a little zen. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.880 I need I need something. I need something in my life. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.199 I need, you know what? I need that? Uh? Wait, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.320 that takes away the bad juju? 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.920 Yeah, you need like a like a medi spa thing 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:39.240 to run. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.040 What's the thing? They come in your house and they 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.680 do it's like a it's lit. It's got like smoke 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.720 coming out of it, and it clears all the bed 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.760 like incense. Yeah, but I don't know what it's called. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.600 They go like this to you, they shake it in 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.160 your face. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.160 I'm just picturing the priests at church. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:05.280 It's all the bad juju. We have a special guest today. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.560 Mackenzie Mitchell is here right from where where are you 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.360 are You in Florida? 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.280 I'm in Orlando. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.920 Thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.320 Absolutely. My girlfriend Betty drove you the other day and 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.520 I was like, you know what, I want her on 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.199 the show. Can you can you arrange that? And then 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.800 she said sure? And then you did something for Signed 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.439 by Superstars. M h how that guy. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.800 Did that was great? I had a great time. That 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.320 was my first time meeting Rob and crew and it 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.840 was an awesome time. I was already in the Connecticut 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.280 area and then Rob is like, why don't you come 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.680 to Philly into a signing with us? So since I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.040 was already in the northeast, I just I was lucky 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.800 enough to have Betty drive me. She's fantastic. We got 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.559 we got to know each other quite well whenever we 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.360 were just driving for three hours in traffic and you 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.920 name it. And so it was a lot of fun. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.400 Oh good, I'm glad you had a good experience. I 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:06.199 worked with Rob for oh my gosh, decades, decades and decades, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.679 and every year I do a New Year's Eve live 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.959 where I was involved, and it's very. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.080 I bet that's a fun time. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.600 I bet a lot of stories are shared there. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.400 It's very sloppy, let's just put it that way. A 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.800 lot of fun. So you are just out of WWE 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.160 ring announcer for what four years there, so. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.400 I was a backstage interviewer. That was kind of my 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.320 bread and butter. Where I was doing. I was on 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.240 the NXT side of things, so I was on the 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.600 Tuesday brand and then I would do live events every 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.640 once in a while, so I would do some re announcing. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.720 Just as I left in December, I was dabbling in 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.000 the re announcing and I was really loving it. I 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.880 got to kind of show a different side of myself 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.600 and connect with the audience in a different way. As 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.200 backstage interviewer, you're connecting through the screen, but you're not 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.160 getting to physically talk to the fans a lot of 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:56.720 the time. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.280 So that was fun. 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.319 And then I was hosting a show called ww now, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.520 which is like their weekly show where they're talking about 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.800 like what you can expect to see on Raw and SmackDown. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.720 And then I did a couple other digital shows, so 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.599 kind of a little bit of everywhere, my hands in 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.240 a lot of pots, and I had a It was 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.160 a great time for sure, a lot a lot of fun. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.679 So getting into the wrestling business, did this kind of 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.200 opportunity just fall in your lap, Like, I mean, you're 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.560 not trained to work, am I? I'm not, Okay, I'm not. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.680 Yeah, the opportunity really did follow my lap. I graduated 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.360 from the University of Mississippi with a broadcast degree, and 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.760 I right out of college started in the world of 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.760 professional wrestling. I was really lucky to land my first 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:42.600 job with Impact Wrestling now TNA, and so I knew 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.440 nothing about wrestling. I was very honest about that, and 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.439 I learned on the fly. I think I found and 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.440 realized the other day. One of my first interviews was 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.000 with like Jeff Hardy on a Facebook live and I 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.839 was live and I'm like, what am I supposed to 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.040 ask Jeff Hardy? I don't even know this business. I 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:03.400 haven't learned anything. I'm just learning as we're going. But 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.440 that's kind of the beauty of it too. And so 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.880 I was at Impact for about four years and then 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.760 I landed my job at WWE. I applied for the 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:16.120 job on the internet on WWE careers dot com. That's 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.560 how I got my start in WWE, which is kind 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.120 of wild. You would think with all the connections and 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:25.120 the friends and the small industry that it is, i'd 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.599 have somebody put a word in for me, but it was. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.440 It was a really unique experience that I applied for 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.280 the job on the internet on WWE careers dot com 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.360 and then I got the job and they moved me 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.520 from LA to Connecticut, and then I ended up being 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.080 in Florida for the NXT. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.800 Brand And how long were you there for in total? 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.600 I was there for almost five years. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.640 I was, yeah, about about five years, twenty nineteen through 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:51.839 twenty twenty four, so maybe that would be four. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:52.760 I was there for about. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.960 Four, okay, But you weren't the type of person that 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.079 wanted to ever be in the wrestling busin like, you 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.920 didn't grow Did you grow up a wrestling thing? 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.800 I didn't. I didn't grow up a wrestling fan. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.280 My aunt was a wrestling fan growing up. She would 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.719 make my she tells the story about she would make 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.760 my mom play like wrestling. Wrestling at the chase is 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.600 what they did back in the day, and so they 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.240 loved it. But my mom and my aunt are eight 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.400 years of heart, and so I learned a little bit 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.080 from her. But I never really watched it as a kid, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.959 And so then I got to learn the industry and 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.400 a whole different with a fresh set of eyes when 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.560 I came into the business, which was also kind of 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.520 cool because I got to learn and go through all 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.520 the childs and tribulations of it and just get to 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.959 learn the uniqueness of the business and learn the respect 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.120 I have for the business. It's such a it's such 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:43.839 a beautiful thing. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.679 Well, that's great. How were you treated when you first 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.120 got there, because I know I've been in it for 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.080 over thirty years now, and there's a lot of people 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.600 who feel like, you know, if you didn't put your dues, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.200 they would treat talent a certain way. Did you have 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.200 any problems when you first got there? Did anybody treat 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.600 you not so nice or in a way that you 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.640 were just like, ooh, I'm really uncomfortable. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.079 Not necessarily, I had to navigate some conversations a little bit, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.000 but I was able to navigate that. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.200 In my own way and kind of prove myself. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.320 I think that was that was mostly what the conversation 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.440 was about, was like, well, this girl's coming in right 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.040 out of college. I'm like a fresh face. I'm what 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.720 twenty one twenty two, Like I didn't know anything, and 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.440 so that was kind of the interesting part for me, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.280 was just proving that I can entertain, I can be 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.920 in this business, I can learn on the fly, like 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.240 I can do all of those things and do it 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.760 gracefully and have a good job and make a good job. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.040 And once I developed that relationship with talent and the 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.480 camaraderie behind the business, and I really got to gain 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:00.480 everyone's trust. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.840 I think that was what it was about. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.240 Answer this the way you want to answer it. No pressure. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.480 I'm sure you're familiar with the stories that are going 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:16.160 around with Vince McMahon and upper management. Were you or 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.120 did you know? And you can tell as much or 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:29.280 as little as you want. Did you ever experience any weirdness, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:36.200 any pressure in order to either keep your job or 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.160 be because I've had experiences there. I only lasted their 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.840 six months. I worked there in two thousand and six, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.720 and I was told to get noticed, I had to 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.920 rub my chest with oil and go into Vince McMahon's room, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.120 lean over his desk and try to talk to him 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.200 to get him to notice me, and that kind of thing. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.000 At this point, I was already in the business for 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.960 thirteen years. I worked for ACW, I was on TV, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.560 I did countless pay per views. I was already established 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.400 as a worker, so I didn't feel like that was 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.440 something that needed to be done. So I flat out 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.360 the no and I was released. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:16.880 Wow. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:22.840 So did you experience anything towards yourself or did you 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.120 see anything backstage that you were just like, maybe this 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.040 is not different for me or. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.040 Yet Lucky enough, I did not I had a really 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.240 pleasant experience at my time with WWE. I did not 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.080 experience any type of situation that way. I think too, 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.600 it's such a different time. I think it's a different 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.120 era of it being in twenty twenty four and the 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.160 women are are headlining WrestleMania and pay per views and 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.680 roal rumbles and you name it, and so I feel 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.720 like it's a different time, it's a different era. And 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.120 so I was lucky enough to not ever experience that 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:00.920 or to see any thing of that matter. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.080 Okay, Yeah, I'm just throwing it out there because there's 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:10.239 so many stories that are yeah, and they're continuing to 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.359 come out. Every day. There's like somebody stepping up and 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.119 saying this happened, then that happened, you know, and it 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.399 just this is my business, and it just makes me 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.520 so upset to hear all these things and to have 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.600 these young women be put in these positions to keep 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.200 their jobs or to get a job, and I'm just like, man, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.400 it is not worth it, you know. And and there's 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.920 life after WWE. There was life before WWE. And that's 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:42.879 what I try to explain to people, like I just 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.680 walked out and it just wasn't for me. And I mean, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.960 if that's if that's something what people want to do, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.200 and you could look at yourself in the mirror and say, hey, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.760 I'm good with that, then by all means like that's 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.159 that's great. But I wasn't with people. So I'm so 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.480 glad that you did not have to go through that 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.359 and that you had a really good experience there. Do 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.080 you want to continue in wrestling, Like, are you looking 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.680 to still fulfill that role for another company or are 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:19.520 you planning to move on and maybe do other things? 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.080 You know, I've toyed with that idea a little bit 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.920 because I've been in wrestling now almost it's been eight years, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.000 almost nine years, and so it's taken a lot of 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.399 my life. My all of my twenties was in the 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.680 wrestling business. My husband and I were both in wrestling. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.760 That's how we met each other. He still works with 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:45.040 NXT with WWE, so that's really unique in itself. So 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.040 this is the first time I've not had a contract 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.199 in eight years, and so that's what really it's a 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.399 freeing experience because I can have the ability to do 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.439 whatever I want to do, and so I'm really just 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.639 enjoying my time now. And I just launched my show Threads, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.720 which we talked about a little bit off record when 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.119 we were texting. I just launched my own YouTube show, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:09.600 and that was a show that I had pitched to 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.640 WWE for four years. The entirety that I was there. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:14.760 I never picked it up, picked it up. They didn't 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.800 green light it. There were well, we filmed a pilot, 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.240 and the pilot we filmed in February of last year, 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.600 and then it just I circled back in August and 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.639 there was just it never it never got greenlit and 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.280 never we never saw the light of day of it. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.000 And so the pilot was with Johnny Gargano, and he 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.040 had some fantastic stories, you know, the gear like there's 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.280 it just puts a different kind of a spin on 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.080 the conversation. There's only so many times you can ask, like, 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.280 what's your favorite roll a rumbo moment, what's your favorite 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.560 wrestlemanning wrestlmaning moment? I could probably google that and find 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.520 that on the internet. But this is a way to 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.719 bring fresh new conversations and talk about things that I 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.080 know about the business, which style and fashion and things 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:57.760 that I care about I don't I don't I've never 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.239 been in the ring, so I don't know how it 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.919 feels too take a suplex or to take a bump, Like, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.640 I don't know that, but I do know that, right, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:07.760 I'm like, but I do not. 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.040 I always say I'm a better. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.400 Talker than I think I would be athlete and wrestler, 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.639 which is how why I had my job. But I 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.720 always say like, I just yeah, this is something I 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.120 know about and I care about. And when there's new gear, 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:21.560 I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to know all 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.800 about it, and people have given me one second. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.200 You make gear as well. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.760 I don't make gear. I design my own jewelry pieces. 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.640 I have my own jewelry brand five and Yes, headlined 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.760 by it Man. My family's been in fine jewelry for 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.359 seventy five years, so I've learned a thing or two 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.159 throughout the years. My great grandmother and great grandfather started 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.879 a small local business back in the nineteen fifties. My 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.159 grandmother and my aunt still run the store today. It 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.720 still survives, which is really really awesome. And so I 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.160 knew I wanted to create a business around the jewelry business. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.160 I just didn't know a jewelry on the stage didn't 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:55.760 know what it was going to be. When I was 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.600 on TV on a weekly basis, I was like, why 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.920 don't I just design these pieces? Make that my my fun, 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.280 my creative outlet. And so I design a lot of 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.959 my pieces and that's kind of where my my expertise 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.680 comes into the fashion side of things as well. So, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.399 for example, the ring I have on is a fidget spinner. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:19.280 It's an actual fidget spinner. It comes in gold, silver, rose, gold, black. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.959 It's just been it's been extremely popular. So that's been 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.359 gratifying in itself to just be able to put my 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.600 creativity into something that just means more with my family 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.159 and and just the business side of things. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:33.720