1 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Hello everyone. It is between the train Fran scene and 2 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: you are listening to Eyes up here with print scene 3 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: and I heard reading the network or wherever you get 4 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: your podcasts. As always, I am Joys on his dad. 5 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: What up dog? Jest Sir of Jubilance is stop looking 6 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: at me like thatman, you are what You're looking at 7 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: me like you got something ruined, and that scares me. 8 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I have the same look at my face every every 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: week five years. 10 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: A man, you don't when you when you have something stern, 11 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: when the hands are sparing in the wheels, galling in 12 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: your head, I know exactly, say you know good, you 13 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: know I'm right. You're thinking it's something else. You're you're 14 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: on a different universe right now. You're thinking of something 15 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: completely not what we're doing right now. And I know 16 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: what you're thinking and trussing me off. 17 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: It's rather. 18 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: You're ridiculous. Oh my god. 19 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: I just every every time we step behind these microphones 20 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: and never know what's going to happen next, And god, 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: I love every second. 22 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: The sorry I had to I had to drop it. 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: I will beat it, but I love it. I love it, 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: love it, love it. 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Never a dull movement. No, you know, there's always a 27 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: way to keep my name out there, and I tend 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: to find it good or bad. I'm out there yolo. 29 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Lately it's been finding you. I know, right, you're not 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: finding it, it's finding you. 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know. Is there 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: heat now? Do I have heat with Live Morgan? Is 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: there some kind of heat going away? 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: It seems like there was a little bit of heat. 35 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not trying to create a ruckus. 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: But well, you know, you kind of start at one. 38 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: Me too. I was just casually doing my job with you. 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm producing it. 40 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I've never said a bad word 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: about her. I'm just I'm gonna go on the record 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: have I no, no, never said a bad word about her. 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: I think she's a good little worker. I think she's 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: got a great look, really pretty girl. I've said that 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: so many times. And then I don't I didn't understand 46 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: the tweet. 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if she's just like putting herself over, 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: if it's a slap in the face in my direction. 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: I can't. I know I was trying to and I 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: don't know, certain people are telling me one thing, certain 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: people are telling me another thing, and I'm just like, hmmm, 53 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what it means. 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: And if you don't know what I'm talking about. It 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: all stems from our YouTube video that we did. Go 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: watch the video. It's over on ecw D verfrean scene 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: over on YouTube all about the trademark, about the Queen 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: of Extreme name. It's a big thing, big to do, 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: lots of fights on Twitter last week. It was crazy, crazy, crazy, 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: But I didn't get to mention it on the show 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: because it happened after we went off the air, in 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: real time, like we just went off the air. 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Mind blowing. It just it's like one of those things 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: like you ever see Old School with Will Ferrell, Like 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: remember the scene where he blacked out, you know where 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: he went on that speech, he blacked out, Like it 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: all happened so fast. 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I find a black I'm gonna have to go watch 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that again because I don't remember that scene. But you know, 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person I know that not everybody 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: is going to like you in this world, and I 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: am one of those people that I want people to 73 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: like me. I don't want people to dislike me for 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: something that I didn't do or didn't say. And anything 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: that I've ever said was never directed at any of 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the ladies. It was always directed at the company at 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: the WWE. So you know, if there's a personal grudge here, 78 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: it's not from me. It's definitely towards them. And you know, 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of sad when you just you look 80 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: at someone and you admire them and then they tweet 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: at you and you don't know how to take it. 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know what she meant by that. 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: So if it was a slap in the face, well 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: so be it. But I never said a negative word 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: about her. 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: No. No, those fans, those fans nasty word. 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: They're nasty. This this generation. I'm sorry I have to say, 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: and I sound like I'm one hundred years old, but 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: they are nasty little bitches, so nasty they just the 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: way they were things and and call their name calling, 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: and they're they're trying to like a lot of it 92 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: is like you're old. I got a lot of that. 93 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: You're so old. It's like, oh my god. And they're 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: like I told you, they're between the ages of sixteen 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: and twenty two. You're old, your development get out of here, 96 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: like what? And then my fans are just like, you're stupid. 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Do your homework. You're girl wrestling one oh one history 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and learn who the legends are. I'm telling you there 99 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: were there were huge fights back and forth. It's crazy. 100 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: You're stupid. 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm older. We are older, not old. I'm older. How 102 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: dare you? 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Hey? Look, I mean I hate to tell everybody, but 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: the guy who's in one of the main spots for 105 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: WrestleMania is about your age. So you're old, but the 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: rock seems to be doing pretty good these days. Yeah, 107 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: he is. 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Age is just the number of my friend. I'm out here, 109 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: moving and shaken. They can all kiss my ass. I'm 110 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna do all these little little bitches can all kiss 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: my ass. I'm so sick. 112 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Wait a second, I think that's trademarked. 113 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry, but it's rude. People are 114 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: super rude. I would never go on somebody's socials and 115 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: be like, who are you? What did you do? It's 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: like Google is your friend if you're too young to 117 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: know anything about me or easy w google it, check 118 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: us out, see what you missed, you know? But it was. 119 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: It was so great. It was like my fans were 120 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: like piranhas. They just came up out of the water 121 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: and they were just attacking. And there's one thread where 122 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: there's this one girl that called me old and she 123 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: got one hundred and forty nine responses from my fans. Holy, 124 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: they destroyed her. I didn't have to say a word. 125 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: They destroyed her. 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Wow, man, it just did some man. Huh, I said, 127 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: I got a breath again from all this. 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous. I'm so over it. You know, Like 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I said, I know, not everybody is gonna love me, 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not everybody's generation. I get that, and not 131 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: everybody's in ECW mark. That's fine, but there's no reason 132 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: to be rude. No a name call and curse at 133 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: me and ridiculous things. I'm telling you. My twitter's still 134 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: blowing up. Look nineteen, I just cleared it every time 135 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I heard it, but twenty it pops back up to twenty. 136 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stop reading it. I'm done crazy, I'm 137 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: done anyway. You got a good show. 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: Really big shoes, shoe. 139 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're doing, but uh, let's 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: send over The link. 141 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: Link is on the way all right, and uh. 142 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna get our guests on and I'm gonna I'm 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: gonna calm down. 144 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: You need a little zen. 145 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: I need I need something. I need something in my life. 146 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: I need, you know what? I need that? Uh? Wait, 147 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: that takes away the bad juju? 148 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need like a like a medi spa thing 149 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: to run. 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: What's the thing? They come in your house and they 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: do it's like a it's lit. It's got like smoke 152 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: coming out of it, and it clears all the bed 153 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: like incense. Yeah, but I don't know what it's called. 154 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: They go like this to you, they shake it in 155 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: your face. 156 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm just picturing the priests at church. 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: It's all the bad juju. We have a special guest today. 158 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Mackenzie Mitchell is here right from where where are you 159 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: are You in Florida? 160 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: I'm in Orlando. 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here. 162 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely. My girlfriend Betty drove you the other day and 163 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I want her on 164 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: the show. Can you can you arrange that? And then 165 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: she said sure? And then you did something for Signed 166 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: by Superstars. M h how that guy. 167 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: Did that was great? I had a great time. That 168 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: was my first time meeting Rob and crew and it 169 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: was an awesome time. I was already in the Connecticut 170 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: area and then Rob is like, why don't you come 171 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: to Philly into a signing with us? So since I 172 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: was already in the northeast, I just I was lucky 173 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: enough to have Betty drive me. She's fantastic. We got 174 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: we got to know each other quite well whenever we 175 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: were just driving for three hours in traffic and you 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: name it. And so it was a lot of fun. 177 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Oh good, I'm glad you had a good experience. I 178 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: worked with Rob for oh my gosh, decades, decades and decades, 179 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: and every year I do a New Year's Eve live 180 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: where I was involved, and it's very. 181 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: I bet that's a fun time. 182 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: I bet a lot of stories are shared there. 183 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: It's very sloppy, let's just put it that way. A 184 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun. So you are just out of WWE 185 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: ring announcer for what four years there, so. 186 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: I was a backstage interviewer. That was kind of my 187 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: bread and butter. Where I was doing. I was on 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: the NXT side of things, so I was on the 189 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: Tuesday brand and then I would do live events every 190 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: once in a while, so I would do some re announcing. 191 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: Just as I left in December, I was dabbling in 192 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: the re announcing and I was really loving it. I 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: got to kind of show a different side of myself 194 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: and connect with the audience in a different way. As 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: backstage interviewer, you're connecting through the screen, but you're not 196 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: getting to physically talk to the fans a lot of 197 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: the time. 198 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: So that was fun. 199 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: And then I was hosting a show called ww now, 200 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: which is like their weekly show where they're talking about 201 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: like what you can expect to see on Raw and SmackDown. 202 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: And then I did a couple other digital shows, so 203 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 4: kind of a little bit of everywhere, my hands in 204 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: a lot of pots, and I had a It was 205 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: a great time for sure, a lot a lot of fun. 206 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: So getting into the wrestling business, did this kind of 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: opportunity just fall in your lap, Like, I mean, you're 208 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: not trained to work, am I? I'm not, Okay, I'm not. 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the opportunity really did follow my lap. I graduated 210 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: from the University of Mississippi with a broadcast degree, and 211 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: I right out of college started in the world of 212 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: professional wrestling. I was really lucky to land my first 213 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: job with Impact Wrestling now TNA, and so I knew 214 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: nothing about wrestling. I was very honest about that, and 215 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 4: I learned on the fly. I think I found and 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 4: realized the other day. One of my first interviews was 217 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: with like Jeff Hardy on a Facebook live and I 218 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 4: was live and I'm like, what am I supposed to 219 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: ask Jeff Hardy? I don't even know this business. I 220 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: haven't learned anything. I'm just learning as we're going. But 221 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: that's kind of the beauty of it too. And so 222 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: I was at Impact for about four years and then 223 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: I landed my job at WWE. I applied for the 224 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: job on the internet on WWE careers dot com. That's 225 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: how I got my start in WWE, which is kind 226 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: of wild. You would think with all the connections and 227 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: the friends and the small industry that it is, i'd 228 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 4: have somebody put a word in for me, but it was. 229 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: It was a really unique experience that I applied for 230 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: the job on the internet on WWE careers dot com 231 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: and then I got the job and they moved me 232 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: from LA to Connecticut, and then I ended up being 233 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 4: in Florida for the NXT. 234 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Brand And how long were you there for in total? 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: I was there for almost five years. 236 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: I was, yeah, about about five years, twenty nineteen through 237 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, so maybe that would be four. 238 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: I was there for about. 239 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: Four, okay, But you weren't the type of person that 240 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: wanted to ever be in the wrestling busin like, you 241 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: didn't grow Did you grow up a wrestling thing? 242 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't grow up a wrestling fan. 243 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: My aunt was a wrestling fan growing up. She would 244 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 4: make my she tells the story about she would make 245 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: my mom play like wrestling. Wrestling at the chase is 246 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: what they did back in the day, and so they 247 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: loved it. But my mom and my aunt are eight 248 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: years of heart, and so I learned a little bit 249 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: from her. But I never really watched it as a kid, 250 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 4: And so then I got to learn the industry and 251 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: a whole different with a fresh set of eyes when 252 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: I came into the business, which was also kind of 253 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: cool because I got to learn and go through all 254 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: the childs and tribulations of it and just get to 255 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 4: learn the uniqueness of the business and learn the respect 256 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: I have for the business. It's such a it's such 257 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 4: a beautiful thing. 258 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Well, that's great. How were you treated when you first 259 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: got there, because I know I've been in it for 260 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: over thirty years now, and there's a lot of people 261 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: who feel like, you know, if you didn't put your dues, 262 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: they would treat talent a certain way. Did you have 263 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: any problems when you first got there? Did anybody treat 264 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: you not so nice or in a way that you 265 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: were just like, ooh, I'm really uncomfortable. 266 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 4: Not necessarily, I had to navigate some conversations a little bit, 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: but I was able to navigate that. 268 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: In my own way and kind of prove myself. 269 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: I think that was that was mostly what the conversation 270 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: was about, was like, well, this girl's coming in right 271 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: out of college. I'm like a fresh face. I'm what 272 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: twenty one twenty two, Like I didn't know anything, and 273 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: so that was kind of the interesting part for me, 274 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: was just proving that I can entertain, I can be 275 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: in this business, I can learn on the fly, like 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: I can do all of those things and do it 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: gracefully and have a good job and make a good job. 278 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: And once I developed that relationship with talent and the 279 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: camaraderie behind the business, and I really got to gain 280 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: everyone's trust. 281 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: I think that was what it was about. 282 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Answer this the way you want to answer it. No pressure. 283 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're familiar with the stories that are going 284 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: around with Vince McMahon and upper management. Were you or 285 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: did you know? And you can tell as much or 286 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: as little as you want. Did you ever experience any weirdness, 287 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: any pressure in order to either keep your job or 288 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: be because I've had experiences there. I only lasted their 289 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: six months. I worked there in two thousand and six, 290 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: and I was told to get noticed, I had to 291 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: rub my chest with oil and go into Vince McMahon's room, 292 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: lean over his desk and try to talk to him 293 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: to get him to notice me, and that kind of thing. 294 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: At this point, I was already in the business for 295 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: thirteen years. I worked for ACW, I was on TV, 296 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: I did countless pay per views. I was already established 297 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: as a worker, so I didn't feel like that was 298 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: something that needed to be done. So I flat out 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: the no and I was released. 300 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 301 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: So did you experience anything towards yourself or did you 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: see anything backstage that you were just like, maybe this 303 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: is not different for me or. 304 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: Yet Lucky enough, I did not I had a really 305 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: pleasant experience at my time with WWE. I did not 306 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: experience any type of situation that way. I think too, 307 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: it's such a different time. I think it's a different 308 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: era of it being in twenty twenty four and the 309 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: women are are headlining WrestleMania and pay per views and 310 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: roal rumbles and you name it, and so I feel 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: like it's a different time, it's a different era. And 312 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: so I was lucky enough to not ever experience that 313 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: or to see any thing of that matter. 314 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm just throwing it out there because there's 315 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: so many stories that are yeah, and they're continuing to 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: come out. Every day. There's like somebody stepping up and 317 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: saying this happened, then that happened, you know, and it 318 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: just this is my business, and it just makes me 319 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: so upset to hear all these things and to have 320 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: these young women be put in these positions to keep 321 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: their jobs or to get a job, and I'm just like, man, 322 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: it is not worth it, you know. And and there's 323 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: life after WWE. There was life before WWE. And that's 324 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: what I try to explain to people, like I just 325 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: walked out and it just wasn't for me. And I mean, 326 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: if that's if that's something what people want to do, 327 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: and you could look at yourself in the mirror and say, hey, 328 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm good with that, then by all means like that's 329 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: that's great. But I wasn't with people. So I'm so 330 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: glad that you did not have to go through that 331 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: and that you had a really good experience there. Do 332 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: you want to continue in wrestling, Like, are you looking 333 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: to still fulfill that role for another company or are 334 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: you planning to move on and maybe do other things? 335 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: You know, I've toyed with that idea a little bit 336 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: because I've been in wrestling now almost it's been eight years, 337 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: almost nine years, and so it's taken a lot of 338 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: my life. My all of my twenties was in the 339 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: wrestling business. My husband and I were both in wrestling. 340 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: That's how we met each other. He still works with 341 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: NXT with WWE, so that's really unique in itself. So 342 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: this is the first time I've not had a contract 343 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: in eight years, and so that's what really it's a 344 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: freeing experience because I can have the ability to do 345 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: whatever I want to do, and so I'm really just 346 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 4: enjoying my time now. And I just launched my show Threads, 347 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: which we talked about a little bit off record when 348 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: we were texting. I just launched my own YouTube show, 349 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: and that was a show that I had pitched to 350 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: WWE for four years. The entirety that I was there. 351 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: I never picked it up, picked it up. They didn't 352 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: green light it. There were well, we filmed a pilot, 353 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: and the pilot we filmed in February of last year, 354 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: and then it just I circled back in August and 355 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: there was just it never it never got greenlit and 356 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: never we never saw the light of day of it. 357 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: And so the pilot was with Johnny Gargano, and he 358 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: had some fantastic stories, you know, the gear like there's 359 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: it just puts a different kind of a spin on 360 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: the conversation. There's only so many times you can ask, like, 361 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: what's your favorite roll a rumbo moment, what's your favorite 362 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: wrestlemanning wrestlmaning moment? I could probably google that and find 363 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: that on the internet. But this is a way to 364 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 4: bring fresh new conversations and talk about things that I 365 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: know about the business, which style and fashion and things 366 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: that I care about I don't I don't I've never 367 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 4: been in the ring, so I don't know how it 368 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 4: feels too take a suplex or to take a bump, Like, 369 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 4: I don't know that, but I do know that, right, 370 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, but I do not. 371 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: I always say I'm a better. 372 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: Talker than I think I would be athlete and wrestler, 373 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: which is how why I had my job. But I 374 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: always say like, I just yeah, this is something I 375 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: know about and I care about. And when there's new gear, 376 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to know all 377 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: about it, and people have given me one second. 378 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: You make gear as well. 379 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: I don't make gear. I design my own jewelry pieces. 380 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: I have my own jewelry brand five and Yes, headlined 381 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: by it Man. My family's been in fine jewelry for 382 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: seventy five years, so I've learned a thing or two 383 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 4: throughout the years. My great grandmother and great grandfather started 384 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: a small local business back in the nineteen fifties. My 385 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: grandmother and my aunt still run the store today. It 386 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: still survives, which is really really awesome. And so I 387 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: knew I wanted to create a business around the jewelry business. 388 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 4: I just didn't know a jewelry on the stage didn't 389 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: know what it was going to be. When I was 390 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: on TV on a weekly basis, I was like, why 391 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 4: don't I just design these pieces? Make that my my fun, 392 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: my creative outlet. And so I design a lot of 393 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 4: my pieces and that's kind of where my my expertise 394 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: comes into the fashion side of things as well. So, 395 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: for example, the ring I have on is a fidget spinner. 396 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: It's an actual fidget spinner. It comes in gold, silver, rose, gold, black. 397 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 4: It's just been it's been extremely popular. So that's been 398 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: gratifying in itself to just be able to put my 399 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: creativity into something that just means more with my family 400 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 4: and and just the business side of things. 401 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: So that's been great. 402 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's been awesome. So my my thread show 403 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: has really taken off. 404 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the the premise of Threads is, like you said, 405 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: you're you're not going to discuss wrestling moves or matches. 406 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: You're going to dive into more of the fashion sense 407 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: of your Okay, so. 408 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: We talk about So my latest guest was Mandy Rose, 409 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: and so she was at NXT for a period of time. 410 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 4: She broke records with the n xt T Women's Championship 411 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: and so we talked about her time when she unified 412 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: the titles and when she wore these black wings, these 413 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: black angel wings, and she we ended up finding out 414 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: in the story when I did the interview that her 415 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: black wings never came in and so she had to 416 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 4: go to Party City and buy these black wings and 417 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: they became like an iconic look she wore time and 418 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: time again. But she got them for thirty five dollars 419 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: at Parst City, right, And so that's just proof in 420 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: itself that, like if you're in a she. 421 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: Was in a pench, and she was like, I got 422 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: to make something work. 423 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: So my next guest that's coming in, yeah, exactly, Like 424 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: we're like wanting these wings, and she said, hey, where 425 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 4: can I get wings? Oh? 426 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 427 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: So there you go. There's the clip. It's on my 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: YouTube channel. And my next guest is going to be 429 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 4: Tory Wilson. So we we already did the interview and 430 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: she's I had never met Tory, and she's so gracious 431 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: that she was like, how can I say no to 432 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: doing this interview? I love the concept. I love everything 433 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: about it. I love that we're talking you know, like 434 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: female kind of starting her own thing after w W 435 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: like you said, life after WWE, there really is one 436 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: out there, and so yeah, i'd I'd love to get 437 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: you on the show. We'll have to talk about your 438 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: looks from ECW days and back in the day, like 439 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: there's so much to uncover. 440 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not so good, but. 441 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: But that's okay, you know, Like that's that's the cool 442 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: part about is looking back and just reminiscing on some 443 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: things and be like this didn't work, this did work. 444 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: Oh I got reaction from this. 445 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 4: I sold this piece for whatever, you know what I mean, 446 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: Like people don't even know what, Like what do you 447 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: wear it? Sometimes? And then it sits in a closet 448 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: for how many years? And it's a special place in 449 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: your heart. But what do you do with it? 450 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: So you sell it? 451 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: Sell it right or or you can talk about it 452 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: then on this show, which is a perfect place. 453 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: I would live those moments whenever you want me. Just 454 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: we have each other's number. You can always just call 455 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and say, hey, what are you doing tomorrow or whatever. 456 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I would love Yes, Yes, it. 457 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Is a different type of show and a different concept, 458 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: so I think a lot of people would be interested 459 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: in it. And I don't know why WW was not 460 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: because see with me at the stage that I'm at 461 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: because I'm a mom, you know, I have two kids. 462 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm busy, right, and I'm doing all this wrestling on 463 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: the side, and I have the podcast. I don't have 464 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: time to sit down and watch twenty four hours of 465 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: wrestling a week, because it's a lot. It is a lot, right, 466 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: But I find myself gravitating to more of the reality 467 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: aspects of the workers these days. So I go to 468 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: YouTube and I watch a lot of their own like 469 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: little diaries that they put out because I love the 470 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: For me, like the behind the scenes is sometimes more 471 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: thrilling than what I'm watching. 472 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: No doubt in the right Absolutely it'll And that's the 473 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: thing is it allows you to connect to a person 474 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: rather than a character and get to know their stories. 475 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: And I've learned just from these past three episodes, like 476 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 4: a lot of the wrestlers have a common color that 477 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: makes them feel comfortable, it makes them feel confident, and 478 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: their stories like the Party City one or you know, 479 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: just all of those that allows you to connect to 480 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: who these people are rather than just what you're seeing 481 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: on the screen. And I feel like in today's society, 482 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: you want that you want to get to know. You 483 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: want to pull the cover, like the curtain back a 484 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: little bit and get to know who they are personally. 485 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: That's what allows you to connect on a deeper level, 486 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 4: on a storytelling level. 487 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And it also lets you see the 488 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: person outside of the character they play, because I know 489 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: when I worked, I was a bitch and the biggest 490 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: heel that you can imagine, which was totally opposite of 491 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: the person that I am in real life. Seeing these 492 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: people sitting down and talking as a real human being, 493 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: that attracts me to the product more so than seeing 494 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: them play a character. I think I kind of transitioned 495 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: from being like the diehard wrestling fan and now I 496 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: just want to see more of the person that they 497 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: are for real. And I gravitate towards those YouTube videos, 498 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, a lot of them. I watch people's home vlogs, 499 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I love the on the road when 500 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: people are vlogging, when they're on the road and they're 501 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: going to like I don't know if they stop it 502 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: at Denny's or if they go to a toy store 503 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: or they're they're buying an outfit or whatever. I just 504 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: like to see the backstage store. 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: And two exactly like and and for me, it's been 506 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: really gratifying. The past two guests, Mandy and Matt have 507 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: both texted me after the episode launched and said, thank you. 508 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: This is such a unique spin that allows me to 509 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: tell my story because so many times on WWE, you're 510 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: given a script, you're given a and you're giving a 511 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: criteria that you must meet and who you are to 512 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: fit that role. But this both of them, when they 513 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 4: sent me text messages and said thank you, You're onto something. 514 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: This is so cool. 515 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: This was such a different conversation that was rewarding in 516 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 4: itself because I'm like, Okay, I'm doing something bigger here. 517 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: It's not just about the character and the times that 518 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: they want a title, Like titles are great and all, 519 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: but that's not all that makes a career, right, And 520 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: so just those little moments in itself to me made 521 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: me go like, Okay, this is fun. This makes all 522 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 4: the sense in the world for me to do this. 523 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: That's great and it's unique. 524 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're doing something. 525 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: That no one else is doing right now. So I 526 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: think that's a really really good concept that you have. 527 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: So I think you can close up for you now. 528 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. There is, it's YouTube. Is this on YouTube 529 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: as well? 530 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: Yep? On my YouTube channel just It's Mackenzie and Mitchell, 531 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: which is all my social media. It's just the YouTube. 532 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: You can you can click in it in and you 533 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: can go in and watch all the videos. I do 534 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: launch some exclusives as well too of the video, because 535 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: once we get to talking, then we've got thirty minutes 536 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: of content, forty five minutes of content, and I'm like, well, 537 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: these stories have to live somewhere. So then if it 538 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: doesn't make the full fifteen to seventeen minute episode, then 539 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 4: I'll make them exclusives and put them on social media 540 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 4: so other people can feel like they can connect. 541 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: To the conversation too. 542 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: Gotcha. So when you were in WWE, did you have 543 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: like a travel buddy? Who did you travel with? 544 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: So my best friend is Chelsea Green. 545 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Doing wonderful right now? 546 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: She is. I'm so excited for this new era of Chelsea. 547 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: She was she was in an XT. She broke her arm. 548 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: I think she broke her arm like two to three 549 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: times throughout her time with WWE, and then I felt 550 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: bad she got cut short when she broke her arm. 551 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: I think she made her SmackDown debut and the same 552 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: episode she broke her arm. She got released in the 553 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: days of COVID I think it was, and then when 554 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: she made her her return, I was. I was one 555 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: of the first people that she told because of course 556 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: I was in the business and we talk business related 557 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: or not business related, right, So anytime I got to 558 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: work with her was so much fun. And you meet, 559 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: I mean you meet, you get it. The camaraderie of 560 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: people that you get to see and connect to and 561 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: it's like your family. I was on a weekly basis, 562 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: going on tuesdays to hang out with these people for 563 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: twelve hours at a time, and so you get to 564 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 4: know a lot about them. So yeah, I was. I 565 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: was lucky to meet some really cool friends. I loved 566 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: hanging out with Chelsea, Roxane Perez, coraa Jade. They're a 567 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: little bit on the they just are really younger in 568 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: the n XT side of things. 569 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what they do. But yeah, I 570 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: love some of those girls. 571 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good when you move good people and 572 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: then it continues even if you leave, or if they leave. 573 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: Yet you to give me that's that's right, that's a 574 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: true test of friendship. 575 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: For here I've always felt that way. 576 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: Let let you let you know if it were just 577 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: the worst of friendship or just because it was convenience, 578 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: or if it made sense throughout your time after WW 579 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: or after wrestling or whatever. 580 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, sometimes it is because I've had friends that 581 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: were locker room friends. But then I have my girlfriends 582 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: that I've been friends with for thirty years, and sometimes 583 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: for each other. I mean, gosh, there's some I don't 584 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: see each other for years and years, but that's what 585 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: the film's for, in your face time and it's like 586 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: we haven't missed the beat and I've met doubt whistling, 587 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: so they've become family, and. 588 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: It's Yeah, for sure, I totally feel that. 589 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I feel that, Well, what's next for miss Mitchell? What 590 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: are we doing? Do we? Well? 591 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: As I've mentioned with Threads, I'm really excited for the 592 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 4: show and to see where we can go with that. 593 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: I've got Tory Wilson coming up, and then i have 594 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: another episode them filming next week. I don't know who. 595 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: I can't reveal just yet who the episode is going 596 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: to be, but I'm really excited for this one. So 597 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: continue to just really hit Threads as a home run 598 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: and just like take it to the next level and 599 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: then work on headline. I'm in Winner Park Fashion Week 600 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: this upcoming week, so I'm dressing the models and all 601 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: of my jewelry and stuff, and so I'm really excited 602 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: about that, just to kind of get things going and 603 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: really hone in on the style and fashion of things, 604 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: whether it's professional wrestling or Winner Park Fashion Week. It's 605 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: just always been a passion of mine and so now 606 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: I get to take some of my loves and combine them, 607 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: which is a beautiful thing. So is your jewelry online 608 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: or is it online? 609 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Okay? Where can we find your pieces? 610 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: Headline by mm dot com or you can go to 611 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: my social media and I'm connected on my social media 612 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: as well. If you follow me Mackenzie and Mitchell, you 613 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: can connect to headline through there. Here we can go 614 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: there's the website. Yeah, it's a. 615 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Very awesome website. I've been standing through it. Very very 616 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: awesome website. 617 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 618 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: I designed it all on my own. Yes, I've been 619 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: up at times at three am coding my website. And 620 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, I have no business coding my website because 621 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: i have no clue what I'm doing. But like you said, 622 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: YouTube gives you a lot of information. 623 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh so they're wearing your pieces. 624 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had Seth Rollins, Yeah, Williams Trick has kind 625 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: of made it part of his. 626 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: Like his entrance, which has been really cool. 627 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: And then I just had Melanie Collins recently where on 628 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: CBS on NFL she was wearing it sideline and I 629 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: think that game was showed to over thirty million people, 630 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: so that was really really amazing for me. 631 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 632 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: Good for you, thank you. 633 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: So it's really taking off, which I'm so happy about. 634 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: And I'm lucky enough. 635 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: That my friends are really cool and they do really 636 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: cool things and so they can help me promote it, 637 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: which is great. But even then, it's like Natty loves 638 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: to buy my stuff, several others love to buy my stuff. 639 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: Seth is wearing my stuff on you know, on raw 640 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: and big moments and commercials and things. So that's really 641 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: rewarding too. 642 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's beautiful. Are you doing any cons coming up? 643 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Because I'll be at Wressel Khan. Will you be at wrestaurant? 644 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 4: I will be at Russell Khan And I think Betty 645 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: told me you're going to be at big event. 646 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I will be a big event. 647 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: I will be at a big event. 648 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: I will be there at a big event for the event, 649 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: and then I also will be at Russell Khan. And 650 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing a few other signings here and there. I'm 651 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: going to Reality of Wrestling Booker T and Charmel. I'm 652 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: going to be working with them for one show in 653 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: April on April thirteenth, which I'm excited about. So I'm 654 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: doing some little shows and conventions here and there, just 655 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: whatever will have me. So I'm excited for that one. 656 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: Wressell Kan will be so fun this year because I 657 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: didn't get to go to WrestleMania last year, so now 658 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: I get to go to Russel Khan. And it's a 659 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: reunion to see all my friends that I haven't seen 660 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: until long, that are in aw and different companies and 661 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: haven't been you know, in wrestling for a while. 662 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: So it's a reunion right right. 663 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'll I'll make it a part a point to 664 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: come see you. I'll be with yees. 665 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: We'll have to meet. 666 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll make it a point. I don't know 667 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: what room I'm in, but as soon as we get there, 668 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure I can find you. 669 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: Yes, connect we'll all see each other. 670 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get a drink or something after us. 671 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: That would win. That would be lovely. But whenever you 672 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: want to do something for your channel, I am open 673 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: to it. So just give me a call and we'll 674 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: set it up. 675 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, absolutely lovely. 676 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck. 677 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 678 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Hope you keep continuing to blow up. Chad. Do you 679 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: have anything to add now? 680 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: Just it's amazing to see how much you've really done. 681 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that is an incredible growth you've had. And 682 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, with the broadcasting degree that you had 683 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: to get to WWE must have been in like just 684 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: an amazing experience because I worked at WWE in two 685 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: thousand and six on the production side and they were 686 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: still doing tape in two thousand and six, so I 687 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: can't imagine what you saw by the time you hard 688 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: in the business to when you got there. So just 689 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: I know what a fantastic had. 690 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. It's been fun. 691 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 4: It's been fun to just just spread my wings and 692 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: go what can I what can I do? How can 693 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 4: I tap in? Since December and it's been a great time. 694 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: So we'll see what's next, Honey. 695 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: You're on a great path, so just keep going forward. 696 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck. Can't wait to 697 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: meet you in person. And I know I appreciate you 698 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: coming on. 699 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 4: This was thanks for having me. I really appreciate you. Guys. 700 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: All right, dal you take care and we'll see you soon. 701 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 4: Okay, see you soon. 702 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: Thank you. Because everyone go to her web page and 703 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: come see us at the signings and and all that 704 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: good stuff. 705 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 2: What a what a go getter? 706 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: Isn't go get her? That's the first thing. I thought. 707 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: She's lovely. I'm so happy. I would love to looking. 708 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: At her website or website, especially the fact she did 709 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: that I put websites together. It ain't easy. That is 710 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: a freaking good website, mull Time Media. It's got all 711 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: the links you needs for all the merchandise, and it 712 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: just it tells you everything. It's got the history of 713 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: her family, like she had mentioned earlier in the interview. 714 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, she just is amazing. That's why I'm saying, 715 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: Like when she graduated from her broadcasting school and to 716 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: go through the business, by the time she got to 717 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: w we like that was just the polishing that she 718 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: needed just to learn that. It must have been like, okay, 719 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: now I'm here now and she that very impressive. That 720 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: was amazing. 721 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely, she she seems like she's a smart girl and 722 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: she has a good, good head on her shoulders, and 723 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: she had a lot of cool things happening for her. 724 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: So good for her. Can we plug my next appearance? 725 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: I would like nothing better than to do that. 726 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: And I tell you something, I saw something funky about 727 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: it and I sent it to you. 728 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh I did, Yeah, I. 729 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: We won't have an answer for that. 730 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: That was no one knows what's going on. That was 731 00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: Craig crag. 732 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: This is the third thing that has popped up, not 733 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: for the one for this show, but then two for 734 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: another show that I'm doing. That the promoters or people 735 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: are just adding me to posters and I didn't even 736 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: agree to anything. Why why are they doing this to me? 737 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: Put you in a bad position? But then it puts 738 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: the people that you're working with in a bad position 739 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: because it makes them look bad. 740 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't reach out to the person to this guy, 741 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: but I did reach out to you know, the promoter, 742 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: the two promoters that are involved, and one was very helpful. 743 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: And you know who I'm talking about and the other 744 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 1: one just ghosted me, and I'm just. 745 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: Like, really, we call that one the Hamama. 746 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: Somebody just tell me what's I just want to know. 747 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: That's what pisses me off. Like, if your talent, okay, 748 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go on. A little little Bubba mentioned this. 749 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: Bubba said the same thing when we had him on. 750 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: If you are talent and you agree to something, that's 751 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: what you should be held accountable for, not fifty million 752 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: extra things that pop up. The one guy wanted me 753 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: to work the show at night, which I'm not even 754 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: staying for. Then he wanted me to do a photo 755 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: op with three other girls that are there. I never 756 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: agreed to any of this. So if they're selling you know, 757 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: advance tickets and then I walk in last minute, I go, 758 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. What do you do for all 759 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: the people who paid the advance fee the pre sales? 760 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I try to nip 761 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: it in the bug before we get to that. But 762 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: again today I get sent this thing and I was like, 763 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: who is this? 764 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't even know that the one that you sent 765 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: me today. 766 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: That was that today was, but so were the other ones. 767 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: This, But this one had like a plan and options every. 768 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: Selling my signatures. I'm gonna see her. 769 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: Sample copies in the thing watermarks. 770 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 771 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: I didn't agree to this. 772 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: You know. 773 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: Well, when you put me on a post, if I'm 774 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be signed, let's say I'm signing for three 775 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: four hours or something, then my face is on the 776 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: poster for the night show. I'm not booked for that 777 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: night show. This is not the Boston thing, this is 778 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: another show. I'm not booked for that show. And then 779 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm not in this photo. What is going on with 780 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: these people? I don't even know. 781 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: We call it the amateur. 782 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: But then I look like a bitch because I'm the 783 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: one saying, well, I'm not doing that. But guess what 784 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do. 785 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: No, you're not. It's what it is is it's the 786 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: So what happens is is a little inside baseball for 787 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: those listening. It's when you run a big show, such 788 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: as a convention, you have vendors. Vendors make side deals 789 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: with the promoter. The promoter thinks, to make his money back, 790 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: he's going to sell signatures these vendors at a discount. 791 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: But what he doesn't count on is the talent being 792 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: a little more savvy, no savvy about their business and 793 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: seeing like yourself. The ads that the person then puts 794 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 2: out saying I'll be seeing blah blah blah, and making 795 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: it seem like they're having another booking popping up, when 796 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: in reality, what they're doing is is they're buying. They 797 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: could just be buying signatures from the guy you're working for, 798 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: but they're not making it sounding that. They're making it 799 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: seem like another complete different booking. And it's it's called 800 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 2: the amateur okay, But if. 801 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: The vendor that's bringing me in is agreeing to do that, 802 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: you should tell the talent, hey, I'm gonna have forty 803 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: extra for you. Is that okay? No, that's not okay 804 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 1: unless you're for it, or what. 805 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: It is is if it's like, look, if he's deciding 806 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: that day, hey, listen, you know I have a guy 807 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: who he's got and he could go to you and say, hey, 808 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 2: this guy wants to get fifty piece is done. And 809 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: you know, I know I'm charging twenty five dollars an autograph, 810 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna chop the price a little bit to 811 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: get fifty pieces done. Is that okay? He goes to 812 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: you and asks you rather than this guy right on 813 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: his post. Hey, I'm going to see the Queen of extreme. 814 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: I can get any picture done the way you want 815 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: with your personalization here that guy copy. 816 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: That guy needs to come to me and pay Oh, 817 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: absolutely not my vendor. Me are my signatures for his sale? 818 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 819 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: You're paying me, you're not. He's not getting the money. Yeah. 820 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: That one you sent me was so flagrant and just 821 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: like just again amateur hour. So that that's why I 822 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 2: scale back and I can just go, you know what, 823 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with this right now, because 824 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 2: these people are ruining it. 825 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, I have to figure out what's going on because 826 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: if it's I don't know who it's through, but I 827 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't want to do it unless 828 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting more money. So absolutely ridiculous. 829 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: But long story short. 830 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: March ninth, March ninth, Where am I? Do you have 831 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: the thing? iiO? 832 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: The ohio whichever was? 833 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully Todd Gordon makes it. He texted me yesterday and 834 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: was trying to get all my flight and there was 835 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: one seat left. I don't know if he made it 836 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: or not. The Reunion Cavalcade of Legends, there's one hundred 837 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: Legends on this card. But Saturday, March ninth, and I'll 838 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: be at the fan fest. It looks like twelve noon 839 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: to five pm, So that's pretty cool. I like later ones. 840 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't have to be there at nine o'clock. 841 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 842 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really nice. Five until five and then maybe 843 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: we can go get dinner at a normal hour and 844 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: not eat at nine o'clock. That's the worst. When you 845 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: signed till like seven point thirty and then you have 846 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: to go back to the room and then they take 847 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: you out, but it's nine o'clock. Like you eat dinner 848 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: at nine. I eat dinner at five o'clock. I'm just 849 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: I can't do that kind of stuff. 850 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: Who is this next to you up here? 851 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 852 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: I can't see. 853 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: Just check with the hat, uh, Haley j oh from 854 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: the Wrestlers on Netflix. 855 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, from al snows ov W got it. Yeah, but 856 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: they're Sandman looking all kinds of rugged under the mounte. 857 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 2: I mean there's a who's who have eyes up here? Personnel? 858 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: Luke Oh, yeah, you know we had these people on. 859 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: There's Toddy and Gary, uh, you know, get on here, 860 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Sullivan. 861 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: Look MEDUSA baby doll. 862 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Scotty Riggs, Scottie Riggs. Oh, I can't wait to 863 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: see Scotty Riggs. Bill Oh, Bill out there is going 864 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: to be there looking at him. 865 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: If you get if we have Kevin Sullivan on, this 866 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: will be me. 867 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: Why you don't like Kevin? 868 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: No, it's not that I don't like him, why I 869 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 2: just like he's the best. Oh, he's great. I've had 870 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: a lot of fun talking to him at conventions when 871 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: we've we've done some signing. But man, he can talk. 872 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 873 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: I an old guy who can talk, and that guy 874 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: could talk. He's got some good stories that we got 875 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: great stories. 876 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: I've had dinner with him a couple of times and 877 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: he was making me hal with the laughter. It was hilarious. 878 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: He could just go he can go on for days. 879 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the best. Yeah. But there's a lot of people, 880 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people I want to see in this 881 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: this convention. So come on down twelve to five Saturday, 882 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: March ninth and Chuck a Lafa Laca Ohio, and I'll 883 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: see you there. 884 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 2: We seeing Chuck a Laca Laca, So it'll be great. 885 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: And we have a late flight Friday, so you know, 886 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: don't have to be there. Super early with nothing to 887 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: do all day Friday, We're going in late. I go 888 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: right to my hotel, go to sleep, wake up, relax nice, 889 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: and be ready for eleven thirty. It's great. Can't wait. 890 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: Get at it. 891 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: Come see us. Yeah, you come to Ohio. 892 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 2: I've been invited to that show many many times. 893 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cavalcade the Legends Reunion. 894 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean they have them every year at the at 895 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: that place. So, I mean, I've never heard of it before. 896 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: It's my first time. I'm a first timer. 897 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh look at you, I know, breaking the cherry. 898 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: All right, Well that's that's the next big show. So 899 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: you want to say what you got going on your website? 900 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: You're not doing that? Or no you YouTube? 901 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: I have slowed down on a lot of stuff I have. 902 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: You know, I have some other things I've been working 903 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: on independently, but I have my William Shatner private signing 904 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: going on this April. So you want to get something 905 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: signed by Captain Kirk. Go to Ibexclusives dot com. You 906 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 2: know it's going very well. So you'd like to get 907 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 2: something thrown in there. We've got pictures available. You could 908 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: send something in. Got some uh, I've got some DVDs 909 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm getting signed and we've got cards, we've got photos, 910 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: we've got everything. 911 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, what happened to you? The YouTube channel you were 912 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: trying to get off the ground. 913 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 2: I've just decided maybe we'll pause that. You know, it 914 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: wasn't us that could get me in some trouble, so 915 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 2: I will pause that for the time being. 916 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: Okay, not a problem it was so you know, look, 917 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: it had. 918 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: Had its moments, but you know what, sometimes it caused 919 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 2: a little too much of a stir. 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