1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius x M Triumph 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. He searched for answers after a 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: young American tourist mysteriously died at a luxury resort in Mexico. 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a fun family vacation. Abbe 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Connor and her brother both found unconscious and a hotel 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: swimming pool. Somebody needs to be held responsible for this. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Abby and Austin had been swimming at the pool just 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: chest high water. It doesn't make any sense. We're lucky 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: we did lose both of her kids. Austin with a 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: concussion and golf ball size lump on his head, Abbey 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: with a broken collar bone, brain dead. She died in 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: a hospital days later. Mexican officials have ruled this an 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: accidental drowning, but that's not enough for the family. Mexican police, 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: they say, refused to investigate further. She was healthy, but 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: for some reason, she drowned in a pool. You know, 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: all year I look forward to the summer vacation when 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I can spend time with my nine year old twins 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: and just be with them instead of being on a 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: schedule where I'm racing to get them to school, that 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm racing to work, that I'm racing to pick them up, 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, it's a lot to get 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: them everywhere and get me everywhere. And I look forward 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: to that moment when we can just be together. That 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: is what a family had planned. But they're little girl. 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Abby never made it home. She never made it home. 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: She was found face down in a swimming pool. And 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: I want answers. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. With me right now 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: is Abby's dad, Bill Connor, also with me, an incredible, 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: incredible reporter Raquel Rutledge from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, who 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: has taken a hard, hard look at this and similar cases. 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: To both of you, thank you for being with me. 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to go to Mr Connor. 34 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: What happened? Well? I wish we knew. We're trying to 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: trying to find out or get some some type of 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: cooperation from anybody, and we're rounded back in the hotel. 37 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: The owners of the hotel are cooperating. UM. You would 38 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: think if a tragedy something like this and their property, 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: the first thing they would do was ask us how 40 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: they can help I. The funny thing is I was 41 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: watching g m A and through the the information they 42 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: provided on the screen, I actually finally received a condolence 43 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: from Arbor Star or the owner. It's six months later 44 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think Abby's mother has received any condolences, 45 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: and as well as myself, they've never reached out to us. 46 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: You saw that on the screen on g M A 47 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: where they offer their condolences. That's the first dame. What 48 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: is their name? What is their name? Arbor Star? But 49 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: what who is that? The owner of the resort, ma'am? 50 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: What what was the resort name? Pariso del Mar Cancun. Wow. 51 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I've been to Cancoun diving many times, and I never 52 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: really saw the beautiful beaches too much. I was mostly 53 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: underwater the whole time diving. But the resorts there are 54 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: five star. I had no idea to Raquel Rutled's Roquelle. 55 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: What have you learned from your investigative reporting? That's a 56 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: that's a big question. There's um a lot that we've 57 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: little pieces that were trying to kind of try to 58 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: make sense of. I mean, there are we know that um, 59 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Abby and her big brother Austin Um were at the 60 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: bar this one up bar with her um, mom and 61 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: stepdad and they had just arrived. They hadn't been there 62 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: very long, um a couple of hours, and um the 63 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Jenny and John McGowan were there and they said they were, 64 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, they were going to head back to their 65 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: room that each had separate hotel rooms. John and Jenny 66 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: were upright directly above Austin and Abbey. And they said, 67 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, we'll meet you back in the lobby at 68 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: seven o'clock and we'll go for dinner. And that was 69 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: at five thirty five. It wasn't long and they went 70 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: back into the lobby at seven o'clock to wait for 71 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: them for dinner, and and and Austin and Abbey um 72 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: did not show up. And they waited for a little 73 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: while and they thought, you know, maybe there's some rock 74 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the way you're saying that. I mean, how many times 75 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: have I walked out the door and said, David and 76 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the twins, I'll be back in an hour. I'll see 77 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: an hour, it might be an hour and a half. 78 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: And that's what they did, That's what the mom and 79 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the step dad did. We'll see you at dinner an 80 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: hour and a half, okay. And the two were to 81 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: my understanding, there at the pool side bar. You can 82 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: order food there, and someone invited them to have a drink, 83 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: and that is what changed everything, right, Hell yeah, I 84 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: mean they you know. Austin remembers the last thing he 85 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: remembers as a group of people being around doing shots 86 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, let's everyone do a shot, and so 87 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: they did a shot collectively, and that's the last thing 88 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: he remembers. Back to Bill Connor, this is Abbey's dad 89 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: who is watching g M A and sees reporting on 90 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Abby's death, his little girl's death, and it is the 91 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: first time Arbor Star the morning to Mr Connor has said, 92 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, condolences, we wish we could help you. Nothing 93 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: that's never been communicated to him or to his knowledge, 94 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: to Abbey's mom. But they used g M A to 95 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: say that. Okay, that is neither here nor there. Bill, 96 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: When did you learn that Abby had a severe blow 97 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: to the head and was found unconscious, face down in 98 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the pool. I guess everybody just standing around looking at her. 99 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: I guess what what did you learn? Well, Abby actually um, 100 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Austin had a head injury. But Abby actually ended up 101 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: um either falling into the pool or just blacking out 102 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: and and basically I thought she had a I thought 103 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: she was unconscious or had a blow to her head 104 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: as well. No, that's that's been the story from day one. 105 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: But the accurate piece is is that the only thing 106 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: Abby had was a um like a hairline fracture in 107 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: her collar bone. And they said that was due to 108 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: the CPR. Well, really, as Raquel and I know you don't, 109 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: you don't see do CPR and somebody's collar bone? I mean, 110 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: just when you said that, I'm like, that's not right, 111 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: because I have dealt with I mean, I literally can't 112 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: count the number of people that I have dealt with 113 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: that had CPR and date, none of them. And I 114 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: prosecuted for ten years where there's a hundred and fifty 115 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: knew felonies twice a week, never had a fracture collar 116 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: bone from CPR. Never, So I don't believe right now, 117 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I'll tell you that right now, 118 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: she did not get a fracture collar bone from CPR. 119 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't care what they're saying, right And also, Nancy, 120 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: if you can believe this. The police department finally put 121 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: out a police report five months later, and the only people, 122 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: And the only people they interviewed were the people the 123 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: security guards that pulled my kids out of the water 124 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: and provided some assistance. They never interviewed any of this staff, bartenders, 125 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: people that were on shift that that day, none of 126 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: the guests or anything else. And those guests are gone. 127 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Now you're never gonna be able to recreate who was. 128 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: You might be able to get a guest list, but 129 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: you won't know who was at the bar unless you 130 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: go back through the credit card charges at that time, 131 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: on that day, at that particular drink. Stand that that 132 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: could be done will be very time intensive, but it 133 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: can be done. But let me understand something. So your 134 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: boy had a blow to the head. The daughter Abby 135 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: had a fractured collar but I knew she had some injury. 136 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for refreshing my recollection. And they were both 137 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: face down in the pool as I recall, correct, what's 138 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the likelihood of that at Raquel Rutledge Raquel joining me 139 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. I mean, let's just let's 140 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: just hold on a moment. The likelihood that both of 141 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: them have a what I consider a severe bodily injury, 142 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: a fracture collar bone and a blow to the head 143 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: and they're both faced down at the same time in 144 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: the same pool, having just been given a drink or 145 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: had drinks with a group of unknown people there at 146 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: the bar. Well, I mean, what's the likelihood of that 147 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: being just a co inkie dink a coincidence? Yeah, I mean, 148 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that is that is the question. When the way the 149 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: police report reads is that um, that she was face down, floating, 150 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and that he was unconscious, but he was the minute 151 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: that they got to pull him, he you know, was flailing. 152 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: He was flailing somebody. The way the police report reads 153 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: is that there was a woman, um they said, of 154 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: Spanish nationality, who alerted the security folks. There was not 155 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: a lifeguard on duty at the pool. There was a 156 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: lifeguard that was reportedly down at the beach, but this 157 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: woman went and alerted the folks in the area, that 158 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: the hotel staff and said, hey, that looks like there's 159 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: some people having trouble getting out of the pool. Looks 160 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: like they're you know, they're That's all it said. Doesn't 161 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: have any details about that. But so then they report 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: arriving there and finding her down and him down, and 163 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: then pulling her first and then pulling he was still 164 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: sort of in the process of unconscious flailing. And that 165 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: is the question that when people say what we've heard 166 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot from the resort and everybody else who's who 167 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: heard this story, is very easy to dismiss initially to say, oh, 168 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: kids are drinking, they're drunk, they're drunk, they're drunk. But 169 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: what always gets me is two people and this has happened. 170 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: So what I've found subsequently to this is that there 171 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: are a number of couples. I mean, I've gotten dozens 172 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: now of reports from people. Many of them are couples 173 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: of different sizes, different petite women, women with her husband 174 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: who is you know, six three and two twenty, and 175 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: they black out at the exact same time and they 176 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: come to you know, hours later, around the same time. 177 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: So it is not that that That's what really doesn't 178 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense when people say, oh, they're 179 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: dehydrated and the heat got them, and you know, it's 180 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: easy to drink too much and they just don't recognize 181 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: how much they're drinking. That part sticks with me is 182 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: not making a lot of sense when you have couples 183 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: when this, when you have this happening in pairs right now, 184 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: what are your findings. What are you learning about these 185 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: resorts in Mexico. Well, I mean that's one of the 186 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: themes I'm looking for as I hear from dozens of people, 187 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking for commonalities and things that I you know, 188 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: the things that are common that I do repeatedly here 189 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: is that UM, the hotel staff doesn't seem to make 190 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: a deal out of doesn't seem to respond, not just 191 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: at Eyeberrow Star, but the other I've heard from people 192 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: that have been at Secrets in Grand Oasis and different 193 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: hotel chains in the region of Cancoon, Amply Adull Carmen, 194 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: which is just south of the which is um where 195 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: Abbey and Austin were. I heard from them and they 196 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: say that that they don't seem they just the common 197 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: thread is that they say, oh, these people are just drunk, 198 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: leave them alone. They're fine, they're drunk or they're drunk, 199 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: but they need to go to the hospital. And there's 200 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: a push to get people to the hospital and UM 201 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: as we know that. Well, what I learned is that 202 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the hospital is has a contract with a Barrow Star. 203 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: In this particular case, they there their clinic is inside 204 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: a Barrow Star and it is the same UM a 205 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: hospital that they were were also taken to. So the 206 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: doctor works for the for the resort in the hospital, 207 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: and so it's sort of there there. You know, that 208 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: relationship is something we're exploring, a symbiotic relationship, and you 209 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: don't want that in connection to a potential homicide. I 210 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: just say that when you've got both of them, the 211 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: boy and the girl in the water drowning after having 212 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: these drinks at the pool, the parents hadn't been gone, 213 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, forty minutes. If that that is not a coincidence, 214 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: that is simply not a coincidence. I want to thank 215 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: both of you for being with us. 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Bill, when did you 243 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: first learn what had happened to Abby? I got a 244 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: phone call from my son Um. He was in the 245 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: hospital and the my phone rang and he obviously it 246 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: was pretty emotional, and um, I believe it was like 247 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: on a Saturday or Sunday morning, and Austin told me 248 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: what happened. Obviously I was a little beside myself a 249 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: little bit. And what did he say? What were his words? 250 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I know you can remember, Um he said, Dad, Um, 251 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something that's going to be pretty 252 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: hard to hear. And he just said that told me 253 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: about him an Abbey and being at the bar and 254 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the last thing he remembers, and he woke up in 255 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: the hospital and and then he just told me that 256 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Abbey's on life support. So when they pulled her out 257 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: of the pool, obviously Abby was dead. She was already gone. 258 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: But Austin was lucky enough that they pulled him out 259 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: in time and he fully recovered, obviously, But um, Abby 260 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Abbey was on life support, and obviously we're hoping that 261 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: putting her in a coma might bring her back. But 262 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: once I got down to Fort Lauderdale where they med 263 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: flighted her into, obviously I knew the situation at that 264 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: point that she wasn't coming back. So that was that 265 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: was a tough week. But I'll tell you the with 266 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: our bike ride in the organ donation awareness I'll tell you, Nancy, 267 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: that's for some odd reason, knowing she helped for other 268 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: people live somehow that took the sting out of it. 269 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: That her life wasn't senseless the way that she left, 270 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: but she was able to help somebody else and need 271 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: And I know that my it sound odd, but it 272 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: was something in which we Abby was helping somebody live 273 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: or live a better life. That's been Uh, that's what 274 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: I've been taking the positive out of this and and 275 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: moving forward with it. Bill. When you say she helped 276 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: for people, what do you mean? What? What? What are 277 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: you talking about? Well? Uh, on my bike bike trip 278 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: from Madison, Wisconsin to Fort Lauderdale, and that's a bicycle, 279 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: not a motorcycle. I actually met Abbey's heart recipient north 280 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: of Baton Rouge on Father's Day. That in itself was 281 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: something was two fathers were able to celebrate Father's Day 282 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: la month. Jack Jr. Is my daughter's heart recipient and 283 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: his new name now is Abby Jack. And I was 284 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: able to hear Abbey's heartbeat inside of Jack. And so 285 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Jack's father and family were there and they will be 286 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: able to they were able to celebrate Father's Day because 287 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Abby Jack is alive. And I was there too spend 288 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: time with my daughter because that's her heart beating inside 289 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: of Abby Jack. And so I was able to spend 290 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: some time with Abbey as well. But she donated her heart, 291 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: her kidneys, pancreas in her liver, they didn't have any 292 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: matches for her other organs, and but her lungs. They 293 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: didn't get all the water out of her lungs or 294 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: we would have been able to use them as well. 295 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: She was a donor when she got her driver's license 296 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: when she was sixteen. So her and I in Austin 297 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: our organ donors. And she made that decision on her own. 298 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: And that's typical because she's always been the one that 299 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: want to help people in need. Bill Connor, Abby's dad bicycle? 300 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: What would that be? How far is that it ended 301 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: up being around? I'm just imagining that moment. Give you 302 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: a grieving father, here's your little girl's heart beating and 303 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: someone else's chest. I mean, what went through your mind? Well, um, 304 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: it was a bittersweet moment. I mean, obviously I'd rather 305 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: have my daughter, but at the same time, you know, 306 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: all that means Uh, that Abby Jack wouldn't be here, 307 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and that means somebody else would be suffering. So yeah, 308 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: it was. It was an out of body experience. I 309 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: have watched a video of you and your bike uniform. 310 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I actually raced bicycles at one time. 311 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: It seems like another life ago, and you were listening 312 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: to the heartbeat with a stethoscope. You're holding a stethoscope 313 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: up to Abby Jack's chest and listening. Do you remember 314 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: that moment when you heard that heartbeat? And that was 315 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: for me? Was She's alive? To Roquel Rutledge from the 316 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, I can't thank you enough for what 317 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: you're doing, Raquel, investigating this. What do you really believe happened? 318 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: From what you know now? You know, it's just too 319 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: it's too hard to say at this point. There's just 320 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: so much more to learn and to find out. And 321 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not slowing down on trying to figure out what 322 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: that what what actually did happen and what is happening 323 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: what's continuing to happen to other people that are traveling there. 324 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: So um, I'm not I'm not you know, like I said, 325 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: I'm not slowing down until still trying to find out. 326 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, Raquel, before we forget or we don't 327 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: get it out, can you explain that report that you 328 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: published about the adulterated hall in that and again it's 329 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: not your report, but it's a report that you you 330 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: were able to find sure. I mean, one of the 331 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: things I have learned in doing this research is that 332 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: there the amount of alcohol, the consumption of alcohol in Mexico, 333 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: of it is produced illegally, so it's not regulated, and 334 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: you know there is in the Mexican government acknowledges that. 335 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: The other this is a report from the tax administration 336 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: in Mexico, so that is an avenue to to look at, 337 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: is what sort of um alcohol is being served. So 338 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: that's just one more area that needs exploring. What is 339 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: your word of warning, Raquale? I know you're headed straight 340 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: out to work. What is your word of warning to travelers? 341 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: I wish somebody had told me this before I went 342 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: to King Koun. I was just, you know, fat, dumb 343 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: and happy going. I had no idea what was going 344 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: on around me. Yeah. Well, it's funny you say that 345 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: because I feel I mean, if I say this is 346 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you said, well, be careful and watch 347 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: what you do. I mean one of the women that 348 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: I interviewed that was UM that she and her husband 349 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: UM had a couple of drinks and blacked out. Um, 350 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: and we're out for a number of hours and she 351 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: was assaulted and he broke up. He woke up with 352 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: a broken hand. Um. You know, she said, we did. 353 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: We traveled to Mexico regularly, We take precautions, were careful, 354 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: we don't wear jewelry, we pay attention to what we're doing. 355 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: We we go to this resort because this is this 356 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: is what we thought was the safest place, the safest 357 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: way to enjoy Mexico. And so I mean when you 358 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: say word of word of advice for travelers, I mean 359 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I would sound um just that wouldn't 360 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: make any sense for me to say be careful, because 361 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: in some cases, I don't. I don't know if you're 362 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: going to be you know, at a place that you 363 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: expect to be safe, and that I don't know if 364 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: there is a way, I don't know what how you 365 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: could prevent something that we would not drink. You wouldn't 366 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: go to an all inclusive that offered drinks. I mean, 367 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: you can't realistically watch everything that you're drinking. I mean, 368 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: it's just I don't think it's possible. And mean, even 369 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: if you had a beer, if you had a beer 370 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: that hadn't been wait a minute, can't what about taking 371 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: watching when they make the drink. I mean, I guess 372 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: they could pour um, diluted or or poison into a 373 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: a a recognized campaigner another bottle. But yeah, and if 374 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: they're getting if they are getting adulterated alcohol, it may 375 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: look to be you wouldn't be able to recognize it necessarily. 376 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that I could sit 377 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: there and tell you, even if I'm looking at directly 378 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, good point. Rockuel Rutledge follow her at 379 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Thank you, rock Hill, thank you so much, 380 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: and we'll continue reading. Thank you, Nancy. Bill. If you 381 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: don't mind, Bill, can I ask you a couple more questions? 382 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Could you explain to me? I guess it's just also 383 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: difficult for me to take in and see. I don't 384 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: see it as as innocently as they had a drink 385 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: with a group that they met at the pool and 386 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: then suddenly to completely healthy young people. Your daughter and 387 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: son are found and they were both faced down in 388 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: the pool. Yes, your son was flailing and he managed 389 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: to live. One has a blow to the head, your son. 390 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: One has a fractured collar bone, and nothing unusual happened. 391 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: That to me, that is not a coincidence. That is 392 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: foul play. I mean, if one of them had ended 393 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: up in the pool, I could say, well, you know, 394 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: they could have hit their head when they felt if 395 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: they fell into the pool, or if there's a diving board, 396 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: that could have happened. But two of them with injuries 397 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: like a fractured collar bone and a blow to the head, 398 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just statistically practically impossible. And add to 399 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: the fact that your son has no recollection from the 400 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: time he was had taken the offered the drink until 401 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: he woke up in the hospital. Well, that seems that's 402 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: not normal. It seems to be the process though, so 403 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: from the adulterated alcohol and uh whatever mixture they're putting 404 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: into the bottles um, that's the norm. That's that's the 405 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: way this happens, and nobody has a recollection of where, 406 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: what and who and if you can believe this, Nancy, 407 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: you've got a five star resort. They're one of the 408 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: world's largest resort owners and they have no security footage. 409 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: That's the statement they made the g m A. They 410 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: have no security footage of their pools or their property, 411 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: is what they're telling us. You know, Bill Conner is 412 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: with me. Abby's dad. Abby and her brother were found 413 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: face down in a swimming pool at a five star resort, 414 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: and now we are learning that the owner says, there's 415 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: no security footage. Are you kidding me? I mean you 416 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: can get that with your cable company at home, and 417 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: you can look at it on your tail on your 418 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: cell phone, all right, And a five story sort says 419 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: they don't have security footage of the pool. Really and 420 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: a bar It's hard for me to believe that. And 421 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that too gorgeous young 422 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: people with their family, with their mom and stepdad there 423 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: at the pool, the mom and step and I say okay, 424 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: I'll see an hour and a half in the lobby 425 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: for dinner. Okay, They're like fine, and they're perfectly fine. 426 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Then an hour and a half later they're both faced 427 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: down of the pool with a fracture collar bone and 428 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: blow to the head, and the daughter, Abbey is drowned. 429 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence. So explain to me Bill out 430 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: what investigation is being performed now, Well, the police aren't 431 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: helping UM. Twenty four hours after the incident, my son 432 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: Austin in their step. Then John went to the police 433 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: department and the police told them there's no reason to 434 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: file a report. It was an accident. They hadn't talked 435 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: to anybody at the hotel, They hadn't do that. They 436 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: have hadn't done any um investigation or anything. And so 437 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: we UM, you know, we knew what we were up against. 438 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: And obviously since then, the amount of people that we've 439 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: talked to, UM, it's a tough hole. It's not it's 440 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: a you know, and I want to make sure that 441 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying it's everybody in Mexico. I 442 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think the Americans are the only 443 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: ones that they target. I think this has been this 444 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: has been happening for a long time. This is just 445 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: something when this incident happens in the travelers that go 446 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: back to where they live outside of Mexico. The difficulty 447 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: with the judicial system, that dificulty with getting any cooperation 448 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: just leads people to give up and I'm not gonna 449 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this go. And it's just a 450 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: part of Abby and I. With what the work we 451 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: did for organ donation awareness, this is our second cause. 452 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: We need to shed some light on this because it's 453 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: been going on for too long and everybody goes home, 454 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: it stays local. This is something that this This isn't 455 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: just this hotel. It's happening everywhere, and this kind of 456 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: stuff happens in the United States, but the judicial system 457 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: behind it. In the United States, at least you get 458 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: some you get some um justification. But down in Mexico, 459 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: you like you need to know people, you need to 460 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't trust or go through the normal 461 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: judicial system. It doesn't it doesn't work. You know. When 462 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: I first learned about that bill as when um, I 463 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: mean I tried cases and put bad guys away for 464 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: ten years and then covered cases for longer than that. 465 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: But when I spoke to the parents of Natalie Holloway 466 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: and I heard what they went through to try and 467 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: deal with the police in Aruba to try to help 468 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: find their daughter, I was just knocked out. I mean, 469 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: I have been dealing mostly with cases within the US 470 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: but when you're trying to deal with a whole different police, 471 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement system and judiciary. Oh, I mean, it's like 472 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: you set foot down at the airport and you look 473 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: out and you're like, now, what do I do? Have 474 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: you been down there? Now? I won't go to on there. 475 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: It's father. Being on the grounds where my daughter died 476 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a good thing for me. You know that's 477 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: interesting that you say that, Bill, because people have asked 478 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: me a million times, have you gone back to the 479 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: scene where your fiancee was murdered. I just looked at 480 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: him like no, And I haven't read the trial transcript 481 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't read the appeal because that would throw 482 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: me into a depression, a fit. I can't even tell 483 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: you if I had to relive all that, I just 484 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: I can't be that person from my twins, I won't 485 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: be able to put one ft in front of the other. 486 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: People don't get it when you say no, I haven't 487 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: gone back to the pool where she died. Of course 488 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: you haven't. Well that hospital, Um my bike ride ended 489 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: at the hospital in Fort Lauderdale that took care of 490 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: my daughter, and so God bless him. What hospital? That 491 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Broward Medical Center? M I'm very familiar with it. It's 492 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: an awesome place. Yeah, we uh. I even went up 493 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: to the ICU and visited where they had her, where 494 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: they had Abigail, and I spent a week with her 495 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: prior to obviously saying our goodbyes, and I was able 496 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: to meet the doctors and give him you know, just 497 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: it was good to see him again. And obviously it's 498 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: a part of healing. And and at the same time 499 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: it was a catch twenty two because you know that 500 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: ride finished and then now this is in my crosshairs. 501 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: This is something in which you know, this isn't just 502 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: about Abbey. Um, this isn't just about us. This is 503 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: about the other people as well that have lost people 504 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: in the same manner and have gotten no justice. And 505 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: so we are carrying the torch not only for us, 506 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: but all still for all the other people that have 507 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: have gotten no answers and obviously just went home and 508 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: and just threw their hands up and gave up. We're 509 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: we're here to to shine a bright light on this 510 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: and it needs it needs some attention, and it needs 511 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: to stop, you know, both of them. Also, I've I've 512 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: read we're very strong swimmers. Is that true. Oh yeah, 513 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: they grew up in a lake. They know how to swim. 514 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: And and if you think about it, my son six 515 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: two three, my daughters five eight, five nine, and they're 516 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: on a waist deep, not even a chest deep pool, 517 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: and they drove it wasn't even chest deep that they're 518 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: they're in a pool side bar. Oh my stars. I 519 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: was just at a place with the twins where the pool, 520 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: nowhere in the pool was over five eat nowhere in 521 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: the pool was over five feet. I don't know what 522 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: the minimum was, but I mean, they're in a poolside bar. 523 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Their reports said that my kids were three times the 524 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: legal limit in Wisconsin, and of course, being there less 525 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: than two hours, there's no way either one of them 526 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: could ingest that much alcohol. There's no way. And so 527 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: the only thing that makes sense is the alcohol. There 528 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: had to be something in that, and it's either white 529 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: lightning or methanol. It's what they say that they do. 530 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: And so they pour out half the bottle, they pour 531 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: in their concoction, and then obviously they serve it. And 532 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: that's when Raquel was talking about people that had one 533 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: or two drinks or three drinks and then all of 534 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: a sudden you either become violently ill or you blackout. 535 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. Now when they got to the 536 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: adulterated alcohol along there less than two hours stay. I 537 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: don't know, but both of my kids, like you were saying, 538 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: for both of them to be faced down in a 539 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: pool or something absolutely wrong, especially poll that they could 540 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: stand up in the whole thing. There was no deep end. 541 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: And let's say, let's give them the benefit of the doubt. 542 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Let's give the hotel the benefit of the doubt. Okay, 543 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: they were, well, guess what, you're responsible for your patrons, 544 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: and you overserved my kids. I just don't believe that 545 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: they could get to that point. And that amount of 546 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: time the mom left them was only a way probably 547 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: was not even away from them thirty forty minutes before 548 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: this happened, because she was only she's supposed to meet 549 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: them in an hour an hour and a half max. 550 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: So all this has happened in less than an hour. 551 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see it. I just don't see it. 552 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: So we were saying, you're not getting anywhere with law 553 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: enforcement in Kancu. What do you mean by that, Well, 554 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: it's not the law enforcement, it's the hotel. The hotel, Okay, 555 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, but excuse my language, but I don't 556 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about the police anymore. They're there, 557 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: local there. They they're better off to do what they're 558 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I mean, um, but the hotel in itself, um, 559 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: they they wouldn't let the the lawyer on their property. 560 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: They didn't reach out to help. They didn't come on. 561 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the normal thing would be is I'm sorry 562 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: for the you know, we want to help. Man. They 563 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: sure reached out to g m A though, you know, 564 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: to try to reach a couple of million Americans who 565 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: were watching g m A every morning. Take a listen 566 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: to ABC's Good Morning America. Was that the Ibero start 567 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: by resort and Pliadel Carman, where Abby Corner was found 568 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: floating in a pool and her brother got a concussion. 569 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: He does remember what happened, and there were reportedly no cameras, 570 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: But this morning their family questioning if tainted alcohol at 571 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: the resort could have contributed to the tragedy, and now 572 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: other American families are coming forward. I thought I was dying, 573 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: Jamie and Rick. Valerie stayed at another resort in the 574 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: couple telling the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. They both blocked out 575 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: after a few drinks from the resort's beach Ballum. I 576 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: thought I was dying because I couldn't get out of 577 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: whatever state of mind I was in, and you just 578 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: you couldn't wake up. Um. I remember thinking, how are 579 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: my six kids gonna find out, you know, and what's 580 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: going to happen to them? They say the hotel ignored 581 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: their complaints. They thought they were drugged. My hands broken, 582 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: and She's just like, oh no, no, no, that doesn't 583 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: happen here were We've never had any anything like that. 584 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: Guan responding to Avie Connor's death, the Ibero Stars parent company, 585 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: telling the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, we only purchased sealed bottles 586 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: that satisfy all standards required by the designated regulatory authorities. 587 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: We are deeply sad and by this incident and reiterate 588 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: our deepest sympathies and condolences to the family. I believe 589 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: the resorts are trying to hide the fact that the 590 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: dangers exist. More in, Webster created the website Mexico Vacation 591 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: awareness about the potential risks when traveling to these resorts. 592 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: After her two year old son Nolan's unconscious body was 593 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: pulled from a waist deep resort pool, and he later died. 594 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: She says the nurse tried to help her son, but 595 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: the hotel doctor pulled him away, saying he was just drunk, 596 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: which Webster denies. All the cases that I've received on 597 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: my website, the resorts are quick to blame the guests. 598 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 1: I promised. I'm not stopping until something changes. Webster says 599 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: she started the website around the same time. Trip Advisor, 600 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: a travel site used by nearly four hundred million visitors 601 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: each month, refused to publish her reviews, saying it did 602 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: not meet requirements. Trip Advisor telling ABC News our guideline 603 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: state that every review must be based on a first 604 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: hand experience and relevant to other travelers. It's important that 605 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: anyone who suspects foul play or a legal activity contact 606 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: the local authorities. The valeries this morning say no review 607 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: will convince them to return to Mexico. There is physical 608 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: and emotional consequences that will not a be able to 609 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: leave us, and we should tell you. The State Department's 610 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: latest travel notice on travel to Mexico makes no mention 611 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: of concern for vacationers at all inclusive resorts. Meanwhile, the 612 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: family of Aby Connor told us overnight many people have 613 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: reached out to them with their own stories that their 614 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: greatest hope is that together they will finally get answers 615 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: and help keep us from happening again, which would hope. 616 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: So okay, Gio, thanks very much. So your theory is 617 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: from what I'm understanding, that is bootleg booze. Well that 618 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: the hotel you think may have poisoned her with cheap 619 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: homemade alcohol, alcohol that they substitute at the bars. I 620 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: guess is a money saving measure, but why well, they 621 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: make more money. And like Raquel said, that seems to 622 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: be you know, the open door here, and that's what 623 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: she's gonna she's gonna keep digging in. And it's just 624 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: a part of again, Um, it's it's it's the only 625 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: trail that that right now that we're we're following, and 626 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: it's a part of that's the part that it seems 627 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: that it seems to be obvious because Raquel as well 628 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: as myself for receiving messages from people all over the world, 629 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: and you know, in their experiences, there's so many people 630 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: out here that are embarrassed to come forward. Because the 631 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: same thing happened to them. I mean you, I mean, 632 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's something seems it seems to be the norm. 633 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Uh Arbor Star put a statement out that they buy 634 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: their liquor from the normal distributors um and they have 635 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: sealed bottles, so all right, that's normal. So what's going 636 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: on is hat it has to be on the premises. 637 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: And the other thing is which bothers me. I've got 638 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: twenty bucks that says the corporates. The corporate office in 639 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: Spain had no idea about Abigail may Connor drowning in 640 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: their pool until five months later, until Raquel showed up 641 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: on their doorstep. I think you may be right about that. 642 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: They don't even know what's going on in their in 643 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: their their facility. No, I think that's very, very incriminating. 644 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: Is that your son, Austin, who had the forehead injury 645 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: and the severe concussion. The last thing he remembers, he 646 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: doesn't remember getting into the pool. He doesn't remember falling 647 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: into the pool. The last thing he remembers before waking 648 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: up in an ambulance is being invited to have one 649 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: shot of Jager Master mixed with Red Bull by a 650 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: group of guys at the bar. One drink. He was 651 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: invited to have the drink. That's the last thing he remembers. 652 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: That's not right. He does not remember having the drink. 653 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: He does not remember walking to the pool. Nothing. The 654 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: next thing he remembers, he's in the ambulance. So where 655 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: do we go from here? Well, what we do is 656 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: we keep shining the light on this. Uh, thank god, 657 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: we've got raquel um forty three per cent of alcohol 658 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: consumed in Mexico is produced illegally. I think Roquel mentioned 659 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: that forty three percent from the Mexico Tax Administration Service. 660 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: That's nearly half the alcohol in Mexico that is illegal, 661 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: isn't that Yes? And then you know teens scrubbed in sunshine, 662 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: or people on family vacations go down and allegedly get 663 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: this moon shine and your daughter ends up dead. Tell 664 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: me what keeps you going? When you wake up in 665 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: the morning, will you put your feet on the floor. 666 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: Tell me, Bill Connor, what keeps you going? Well, Babby 667 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: and I are are gonna and her mother and our 668 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: family are going to find out what happened. And that's 669 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: gonna obviously shine a light on what has happened to 670 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: other people besides us. There's a lot of people that 671 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: have been lucky enough to walk away from this. But 672 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: there's too many of us, are too many of people 673 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: of the people that have died, and we need to 674 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: keep cracking the door. We need to keep pushing back, um, 675 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: because I can tell you the way she died, she 676 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: didn't get a choice to do it. And so what 677 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: we need to do is to focus in finding this 678 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: answer and exposing the people that need to be exposed. 679 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: Have them judicial Lee uh taken care of So, Bill, 680 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: what is your message to our listeners today on serious 681 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: ex m Well, my messages you know what? Um. Again, 682 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: we're not saying everybody in Mexico does this. All I'm 683 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: saying is what happened to my daughter. What seems to 684 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: be the crack in the door. And when Mexico puts 685 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: out a report that there's resorts and bars with of 686 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: them with adulterated alcohol. No matter where you go, you 687 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: never go there alone. Whatever you do, you do not 688 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: go there alone. You need to take care of each other. 689 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: You need to watch out for what's going on, and 690 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: you need to be careful. Since Abby's drowning, do you 691 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: believe you have felt her presence at all with you, Oh, Nancy, 692 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: on my bike ride, my hair standing up right now. 693 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: I know Abby's with me, the signs on my bike 694 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: ride and with animals, and it's it's something I can't explain, 695 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: but she was with me. I didn't worry about one 696 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: one thing on my ride. I knew she was taking 697 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: care of me. I knew I was going to get here. 698 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: She was going to make sure that I got here. 699 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: Because we have more work to do, and so our 700 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: cause is to save other lives, not only through organ donation, 701 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: but also through this incident in Mexico. We're gonna find 702 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: out who and what it's going to be exposed. We're 703 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of it. I believe 704 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: Abby's I know Abby's got our back, and we're gonna 705 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: save other lives. That's what we're here for. Bill Connor, 706 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: just God bless you was all I can say. God 707 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: bless you, Aunt Abbey, and we're behind you too. Anything 708 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: we can do to help you in your cause, please 709 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: call on us. Bill. Thank you, Nancy Grace signing off, 710 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: goodbye friends,