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Speaker 1: Oh, good time, Steve Tasker. Touchdown, touch down down, more time.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Welcome to Friday, the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Orchard Park, where it's blue skies, sunny skies,

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Speaker 1: cold temperatures. It was what eighteen degrees when I came

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Speaker 1: into work here this morning. It's keeping you up to

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Speaker 1: date if you're far flung one of our listeners of

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Speaker 1: viewers from outside the area yet still winter here. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Steve Tasker is back. Took the early

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Speaker 1: vacation yesterday to go and get better. You're feeling better now, okay,

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Speaker 1: I am. Can you care to elaborate or no? I

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Speaker 1: don't blame you. It is Hippa prevents Steve from elaborating

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Speaker 1: into one after It wasn't like you were sped up

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Speaker 1: with the show or anything, right, It was no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: far from it. Okay, I was sad to leave. Well.

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Speaker 1: Steve returns today with the kind of a newsy day

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Speaker 1: here at one Bill's Drive. You know what you've heard?

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Speaker 1: The news, the uh it's it amazes me, Stephen. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to sound like I don't get it, because

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Speaker 1: I do. But the quickness, the uh, the pace at

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Speaker 1: which news breaks and then is refuted, and then kind

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Speaker 1: it's noon at the I was awakened at five this morning, asleep,

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Speaker 1: getting text from people talking about Antonio Brown. So I

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Speaker 1: never went back to sleep. Now. He laid there with

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Speaker 1: What does this mean? By the time I came into work,

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Speaker 1: it was over. I mean, and you had a similar experience, right,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a couple of hours of speculation.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing how quickly stuff happens. I was in

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Speaker 1: started blowing up because I was getting calls from from

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Speaker 1: other media outlet's saying hey, I want to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: we want to have you on the show, we want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about the Antonio Brown trade now.

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Speaker 1: And they said the Antonio Brown trade. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: where do you go? Why are they talking to me

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Speaker 1: about the Antonio Brown trade? What's going on? And then

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Speaker 1: I find out that it's been reported that Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: is indeed coming to the Buffalo Bills. That's all. It's like,

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Speaker 1: all but done. It's gonna happen, and as we all

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Speaker 1: found out later, nothing is Nothing could be further from

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Speaker 1: the truth. It's not gonna happen, not gonna happen. But

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Speaker 1: how we got there is kind of the story of

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Speaker 1: the day. The Bills address it in a statement by

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Speaker 1: general manager Brandon Bean. But there's plenty more to discuss

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about talk about it with you today.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Steve feeling better. That's uh, that's

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Speaker 1: job one. That's new. Yeah, I didn't want Steel's feeling

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Speaker 1: See's feeling much better. Antonio Brown right, one of the

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Speaker 1: top players in the game, one of the top, if

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Speaker 1: not the top wide receiver in the game. It all

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Speaker 1: came out late last night, ten thirty or so. I

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Speaker 1: guess it was. Yeah, I got I gotta. I started

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Speaker 1: end of the game. Ian Rappaport NFL Network Insider rap

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Speaker 1: Sheet dot Com on Twitter, Ian Rappaport last night tweets

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Speaker 1: out that the Steelers are closing in on a deal

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Speaker 1: there are things to work out, but Buffalo is his words,

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Speaker 1: wasn't some smoke and there was a little fire there.

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Speaker 1: But it appears Steve that Rappaport sort of exaggerated how

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Speaker 1: his due diligence when it comes to checking with other sources. Right,

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Speaker 1: and there were a couple It's a complicated deal. Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have a deadline they Antonio Brown or roster

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Speaker 1: to say that the Bills didn't do you know, didn't

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Speaker 1: He has made it clear too that Antonio Brown has

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Speaker 1: the representatives for Antonio Brown, Drew Rosenhouse. They never really

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Speaker 1: had serious discussions. So how close could that deal have been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they used what real conversations to fuel it.

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Speaker 1: come on, that's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's not that's not

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Speaker 1: the Bill signed him to a new deal. So it's

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Speaker 1: get it. It's like Leshaw McCoy, an elite running back

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Speaker 1: know spunky, right, you would probably think you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: what's again, If if we trade for Antonia's do we

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be this much, this much, this much.

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Speaker 1: get your take before we introduce his Twitter question. I

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Speaker 1: am glad, I'm glad the Bills made the effort. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that it's not going to happen. I would not

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Speaker 1: trust that guy to be a good faithful teammate while

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Speaker 1: he was with the Buffalo Bills. What about you? Basically,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you to answer our Twitter poll. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today is would you have wanted Antonio Brown on

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Speaker 1: the bills? Would you have I acknowledge how good he

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Speaker 1: is too, I would say yes, I would want him

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Speaker 1: on it, and you wouldn't worry about I would not.

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Speaker 1: How could you put that? How could you put that away? Listen?

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Speaker 1: It was a long The guy's been in the league

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Speaker 1: nine years and never heard a peep out of him.

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Speaker 1: His reputation has been one for being one of the

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Speaker 1: hardest workers around. I think this episode that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in these last three or four months has been calculated,

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Speaker 1: aided and given the climate in the NFL of how

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Speaker 1: you work contracts, how you get traded, how you can

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Speaker 1: force a trade, and these guys feel like it, they're

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Speaker 1: almost backed into a corner to do this, to posture

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Speaker 1: like this, to get traded and to make the machine

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Speaker 1: work for your benefit. And I think that's what Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown has been doing. Now. Granted, it makes him look

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Speaker 1: bad publicly, because it is bad, it is, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think when you if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna put him on your team and you start, you know,

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Speaker 1: letting him play football with the club, I think he'll

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Speaker 1: turn into the guy that got him to where he

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Speaker 1: was eleven thousand yard receiver and we caught eight hundred bowls.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the guy he is, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is all. I think this is all to get

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Speaker 1: him away from a bad situation in Pittsburgh. So I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish they problem that. I would have a problem

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Speaker 1: with that, but we can discuss. That's our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: Would you have wanted Antonio Brown on the bills? You

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Speaker 1: can vote on Twitter right now. With seven hundred votes, in,

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Speaker 1: fifty nine percent of you say no, you would not

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Speaker 1: have wanted Antonio Brown on the bills? Forty one say yes.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty close. Steve, You're mister close votes. That's fairly close, right,

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Speaker 1: pretty close. I think a lot and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that got out there somehow, like you just said,

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Speaker 1: he nicks the deal because he didn't like Buffalo, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's color in the Believe me, I'm with you. No,

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Speaker 1: if somebody didn't want to be here, you don't want

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Speaker 1: him here, that's right. I'm totally with you on that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's accurate. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: ever got to the point where Antonio Brown said No,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Buffalo. I mean, good grief,

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Speaker 1: he's playing in Pittsburgh. You know, we're not that different

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Speaker 1: than Cleveland. Take a look around and Detroit. Buffalo looks

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Speaker 1: a lot like Pittsburgh. Now. The one thing that I

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Speaker 1: hear people say too as well, the Bills, you know,

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Speaker 1: have trouble winning. Yes, they have had trouble winning. There's that,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're on the way up. And anybody

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Speaker 1: who takes more than a half second to look at

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Speaker 1: it would say something might be happening up there in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what stops him again, another reason why I'm

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Speaker 1: glad they didn't make the deal happen. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Let's get to your responses eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: tolly three one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty pretty question. The simple Twitter polls are best. Right,

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Speaker 1: would you wanted Antonio Brown on the Bills? We know

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. Give us a call and

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Speaker 1: let's discuss. Let's go to a Kevin and Hamburg. You

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Speaker 1: gotta started. Hello, Kevin, you're on the air. You doing

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Speaker 1: okay good. I wouldn't have wanted them because we're trying

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Speaker 1: to build a good chemistry here and trying to turn

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Speaker 1: this team into something awesome, and we don't need any

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Speaker 1: football drama bas to deal with. Interesting point, Kevin, and

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Speaker 1: let me just talk about chemistry for a second. I've

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Speaker 1: heard it said that how can it be that the Bills,

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Speaker 1: these Bills Brandon being Sean mcdermot's bills, would even consider

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Speaker 1: that guy. I think people sometimes misinterpret their idea of

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Speaker 1: chemistry McBean and or being in McDermott. I think when

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Speaker 1: they talk about chemistry, they're talking about who wants to play,

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Speaker 1: who wants to practice her who wants to meet our

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Speaker 1: standard of how we practice, and then how we play

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. If you don't, then that's you're not our culture.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do with are

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Speaker 1: you going to church? Do you not swear? Do you

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Speaker 1: help old ladies across the street. That's not what they're

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Speaker 1: looking That's not what they're looking at. I mean, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is great, and there are certainly many examples

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Speaker 1: of great human beings in that Buffalo locker room. There

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Speaker 1: have been for several years now. But that's not what

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Speaker 1: they're looking at when they talk. When they I'm sure

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Speaker 1: when they look at Antonio Brown and as they got

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Speaker 1: into it over the last couple of days since Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: I guess it started. They probably investigated all of this

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Speaker 1: stuff and probably got deep into what happened at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year with Pittsburgh. But um, I don't

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Speaker 1: I think it can be over exaggerated the emphasis that

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Speaker 1: Betan McDermott put on chemistry. What do you think they're

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Speaker 1: mister task. Um. Yeah, there's no question that nobody is

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Speaker 1: going to, you know, invite a player into your team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't want to be there, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I just I just think that we get caught up

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Speaker 1: in we take the jokes too seriously, We take it

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Speaker 1: too personally. Listen when it's up, when you're think about yourself,

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Speaker 1: when you've got a business deal go and when you've

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Speaker 1: got an opportunity to make your life a lot better

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Speaker 1: to at an opportunity to to change the course of

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Speaker 1: your future with a decision about a job or a career,

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Speaker 1: you do take that very seriously. And one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the considerations is where it is. But that

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Speaker 1: has more to do with for most of us, And

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Speaker 1: I don't when when my kids all started to get up,

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Speaker 1: growing up and get married and start to think about

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Speaker 1: careers and stuff. Staying around where your family grew up

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Speaker 1: was a consideration, but that that's not part of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking about NFL football players. There's only thirty

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Speaker 1: two places where you can play, and you got to

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Speaker 1: go to one of those and listen this stuff you

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Speaker 1: hear about players. I don't want to play there. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to play here. Certainly, there's good and bad

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Speaker 1: about every every situation. There's bad things about playing for

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Speaker 1: the Giants, just like there's bad things about playing for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Don't think these players are sitting back there

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Speaker 1: telling their agent and I don't want to play in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo because I don't like cold weather. Come on, you

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Speaker 1: gotta wake up. These guys are more adult than that.

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Speaker 1: It has to do with it the vibe of the team.

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Speaker 1: The money, has to do with the opportunity to play.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, for Antonio Brown, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: he does not want to play in Pittsburgh. He refuses

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Speaker 1: because of a toxic relationship with his quarterback. He won't

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Speaker 1: do it, so that forces the whole thing. So don't

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna go back and play in that toxic

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Speaker 1: atmosphere rather than play here. That's crazy. So I don't

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Speaker 1: buy it. I don't believe it, and you shouldn't either.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It's been my experience of talking to

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Speaker 1: guys over the course of my twenty two year broadcasting

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Speaker 1: experience and the thirteen years I played. Guys will say it,

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Speaker 1: and they'll do it after the fact. They'll say, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it here because of that. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like it there because of that. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: not too many guys leave Buffalo saying they wouldn't they

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Speaker 1: were sorry they came here. That carries as much weight

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Speaker 1: as anybody. You just you can't get caught up in that.

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Speaker 1: This has to do with trade value. A guy who

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Speaker 1: wants out of one team, team's inquiring about him getting

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Speaker 1: new contracts. It has to do with compensation. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. Antonio Brown's compensation, the Steelers compensation,

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Speaker 1: and who's gonna pay it and where he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do with his preference about

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Speaker 1: sunshine or snow or I think to offense, like what

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Speaker 1: kind of I've heard it said and talked about on

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Speaker 1: the radio and seen it in some of the tweets. Well,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't want to play in this offense. Who knows

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Speaker 1: what this offense is? Right? Last year they had a

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Speaker 1: very poor offensive line, they had no wide receiving targets,

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Speaker 1: and a rookie quarterback. This offense is still very much

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Speaker 1: in development. A player the caliber of the talent of

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown would have been a major factor in this

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Speaker 1: OFFENSEE they would they might have turned immediately from a

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Speaker 1: run first offense to a pass first offense. So I

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Speaker 1: don't even put much stock in that. On the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: would you have wanted wide receiver Antonio Brown on the Bills?

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Speaker 1: Nick tweets and yes, never imagine it what happened before reports,

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Speaker 1: but was very excited to possibilities after Now just disappointed

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Speaker 1: with another thing for haters to talk about Vante for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl losses, the drought, Abe won't go to buff

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Speaker 1: et cetera. I'm over it. I hope Bills punch teams

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Speaker 1: in the mouth of this season. Nick, I hope you're

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Speaker 1: over it, because that's who is Vontae Davis. A factor

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Speaker 1: guy who quits at halftime? Or do we look bad?

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Speaker 1: Do the Bills look bad because Vonte Davis stepped out

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Speaker 1: at halftime and decided to retire. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get I hate to hear people

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Speaker 1: get caught up in that stuff. See, yeah, the four

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl losses twenty five years ago. I think we

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Speaker 1: can put that away. You can trust me. It was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, there's and yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I get it. We you kind of get tired of it.

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Speaker 1: It's not it ceases to be fun anymore, and it

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Speaker 1: ceases to you know, where you get you we live

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Speaker 1: in this city. That and I was a big a

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Speaker 1: part of as anything, being part of those four Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl teams that couldn't win. But by the same token,

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Speaker 1: I take great pride in the fact that he's got

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Speaker 1: like Lorenzo Alexander, and there's a list guy after guy.

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Speaker 1: Te Kio spikes. All these guys, a little London Fletcher,

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Speaker 1: All these players that have come into Buffalo and threw

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Speaker 1: Buffalo on their journeys through their football careers have all

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Speaker 1: loved it here. I had a former head coach in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League who was an assistant here way

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Speaker 1: back in the day, who said his wife cried two

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Speaker 1: times she cried when we went to Buffalo, and then

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Speaker 1: she really cried when we left. You know, people love

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Speaker 1: this town. When that was a guy who's a head

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Speaker 1: still a good friend of mine, he says, we love Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: We were there definitely defensive, No worry about it because

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Speaker 1: it's everybody's got you know, everybody's got something on him

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Speaker 1: and Pete. Listen, I've heard more players complain about other

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Speaker 1: teams and the situations they had there than I have

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Speaker 1: guys complained about a way the way it was in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And that goes with the drought and the twenty it's

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Speaker 1: been twenty over twenty years since we won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: All these things that have you know, we haven't been

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Speaker 1: successful on the field, does not say anything about the

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Speaker 1: quality of experience the players have had to being a

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Speaker 1: part of this team in this community. All right, So

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Speaker 1: Steve mentioned Lorenzo lor and Joe la Gander's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the show with us today at two o'clock Little

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Speaker 1: Friday Lowdown with Lorenzo and coming up at one o'clock

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Speaker 1: our buddy Greg cos Sell from NFL Matchup on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of these issues. But got a

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Speaker 1: lot of time for you to weigh in on the

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Speaker 1: the no deal for Antonio o' brown. What do you

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Speaker 1: think would you wanted him on the team anyway? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call, let's discuss eighth three fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Sending

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Speaker 1: your tweet, we might read it on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. We're just getting warmed up. One Does

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalada Health from one Bal's Drive. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We are back. Welcome, It's a

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Speaker 1: Friday one goals like we got a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: about today. Steve, Wow, was there any doubt in your mind,

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Speaker 1: no matter how sick you were, when you heard the

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Speaker 1: news that you were coming back in today. I gotta

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Speaker 1: get in there. I want a pizza the second this

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Speaker 1: year A gamer. I thought about it too, because I thought, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you know this, if I don't show for all the

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Speaker 1: days that there's nothing going on anywhere, this is not

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Speaker 1: a day, it's now one of them. Because that because

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Speaker 1: and then you find out it's just it's almost like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they kind of picked picked the Bills

651
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: because they just happened to be maybe the last team

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Speaker 1: that the Steelers talk to or they maybe talked to them,

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Speaker 1: the guy Rappaport. You know, well, I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: were kind of a surprised entry, right. I mean we'd

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Speaker 1: heard about the Raiders, we heard about a couple of

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Speaker 1: other teams the Cardinals had had asked the Bills were

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Speaker 1: the surprise entry, right, the unknown team that nobody figured

658
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Speaker 1: and it's look, it's the story, but it needed I

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Speaker 1: think a little more. I'm not gonna tell Ian Rapper

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Speaker 1: how to do his job, but it needed more development,

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00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: it needed more sourcing. I would think he was wrong. Man,

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Speaker 1: let's hear from you what and then what's worse? I

663
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: think he's actually got used. Yeah, right by I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, who are in a hurry to get this

665
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: deal done, they were trying to make it sound like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. So they get a couple of

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Speaker 1: phone calls real quick, say what are they doing? What

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00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: are they giving you? Yeah? You know, would you have

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Speaker 1: wanted Antonio Brown on the bills? That's our question, kind

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00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: of a basic, simple question which we have taken a

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Speaker 1: liking to hear on the tweet sheet from Bogey mcbirdie.

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Speaker 1: Would you have wanted Antonio Brown on the bills, he says,

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Speaker 1: only if he wanted to be here. I was excited,

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Speaker 1: but really nervous about the possibilities. Glad to see McBean

675
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: is willing to try to make this team better. Yeah,

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00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: and that is an understated part um, the aggressiveness, the

677
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: eagerness to make a bolt. Look, they're bold, man, even

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Speaker 1: in the people they send packing. You know, you might

679
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Speaker 1: think twice or three or four times before you trade

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Speaker 1: away Marcel Darius Sammy Watkins. You might look at him

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00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: and say, not really the kind of culture player that

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Speaker 1: we want here. We don't like the way he shows

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: up for work, we don't like his practice regiment, both

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Speaker 1: in both cases kind of early first round picks that

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Speaker 1: cost a lot. Yes, in earlier regime. I get that,

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Speaker 1: But trading them away they're bold, right, This is bold

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Speaker 1: to reach out and say what would it take for

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Speaker 1: us to get Antonio round? That's bold. I love that

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Speaker 1: about it, even though I'm glad. I'm glad it worked

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: out this way and they don't have him. I know

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: he's a good player, you know, I if for nothing else,

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Speaker 1: for no other reason, it shows you that they are

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Speaker 1: doing their job. Yeah, you know they're on it, that

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Speaker 1: nothing's gonna get buy him without being checked out. You

695
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Speaker 1: gotta make some calls to say, what's the story, how much?

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Speaker 1: What do you want for him? What he been offered?

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Speaker 1: If you know or you know and he gets the point,

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00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: well okay, well you know what, if it changes, let

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Speaker 1: us know, we'll we'll talk to you more. All of

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Speaker 1: that stuff, and and it just makes you feel like

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00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you've got a team in a front office that are

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00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: making sure that the the stones get turned over to

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Speaker 1: see what's underneath them, to make sure they don't miss anything.

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Speaker 1: Got a call on the line from Clayton on his

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Speaker 1: cell phone. Hello, Clayton, go ahead, you're in the air

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Speaker 1: of this all right. How are y'all doing great? Good?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, but point blank answer your question. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would have been extremely glad if he came to the team,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not extremely disappointed that he's not on a

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Speaker 1: team because it's a way win for the Bills. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like it has nothing to do with him

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Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo. That's not a thing. It's it's a

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Speaker 1: professional sport. Guys are gonna play wherever They're gonna get paid.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me, yeah, I agree with you, Clayton.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. Here's a and this is

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Speaker 1: this is total speculation on my part. But how about

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Speaker 1: this scenario, Steve. They they talk to the Steelers, work

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Speaker 1: out some aspects of what the what the compensation might

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Speaker 1: be in a trade. Okay, then they turned the page

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Speaker 1: maybe yesterday, maybe sooner than that, and start talking to

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Speaker 1: the agent Drew Rosenhaus, and Drew Rosenhaus says, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: expect to be one of the top three players in

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Speaker 1: the game. We expect to be the highest paid wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: We expect to be the high we expect the biggest

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Speaker 1: salary in the game, the highest guarantee whatever. That's the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that would shut a deal like this down.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's what happened. Yeah right, Yeah, money points out,

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Speaker 1: it's professional sports. It's I go, what was our twitterfoll

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Speaker 1: two days ago? Most determining factor on where free? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's money. And this to me seems like it's as

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Speaker 1: simple as money. What You're not gonna make me the

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Speaker 1: highest paid offensive player in the game, I'm not interested. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And okay, that doesn't have anything to do with Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I doesn't have any to do with Cleveland or Detroit

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Speaker 1: or Pittsburgh or anybody that that has to do with

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Speaker 1: money and the budget. That's it. So yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's a much more like I think that's the scenario,

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Speaker 1: the likely scenario that that came through. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: um Antonio Brown. It wasn't about the city. It was

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Speaker 1: about the money. If for any other thing, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know that, but certainly that's that's the only leverage

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Speaker 1: he's got here. It's a call from Bill on his

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Speaker 1: cell phone. Hello, Bill, go ahead, and you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with this. Hello. I'm glad he didn't come here.

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00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Why is that Bill? Um? I think he would have

746
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: been on another alarm list of players that were big distractions. Okay,

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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: it might have been built, you know. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and this is the point I was trying to make earlier. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would look, he would come here. He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he's a really good player. I've said

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00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: that a couple time. I would worry about the time

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00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: the game where he got you know, two targets or

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Speaker 1: three targets and wasn't happy with that, or the game

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Speaker 1: where Josh Allen sail the ball over his head inadvertently,

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Speaker 1: or a game where Shady McCoy got more touches than

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Speaker 1: than he did. I would worry that in those cases,

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Speaker 1: based on what he's done here in the last couple

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: of months, that he might revert to this sort of behavior,

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00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: like you know, tweeting live on Facebook out of the

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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: locker room, or or electing not to go to practice

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00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I would worry about that with him.

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Speaker 1: I would never maybe he'd be good, but I would

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00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: always in the back of my mind think he is

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Speaker 1: capable of disrupting and sabotaging an entire locker room, which

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00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: he did in Pittsburgh. I would worry about that. Yeah,

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00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: it's gotta be. He's gotta be your number one concern

767
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: after the money and after the conversation where you get

768
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: him on your team. Is it gonna help you or

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Speaker 1: is it gonna hurt you? Is he gonna Is he

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: gonna play great? But is he gonna make other guys

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00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: play worse because he's you know, bad guy to be around.

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Is he gonna make guys not want to come into work?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be one of those kind of

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00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: toxic atmospheres, which it turned out to be in Pittsburgh

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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: late in this season. So that's always the two sides

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: of the coin. I think guys, I don't know, maybe

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: it's me. I think the best of people. I think

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00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown has calculated this whole scenario to get out

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Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh. He's got reasons other than what he is

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: or who he is, you know, to be perceived as

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00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: a guy he is. I think he's got reasons for that,

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00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: and that's to get out of Pittsburgh and change his

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: change the course of his career while he can use

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Speaker 1: whatever leverage he can to do it. And yet he

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: might be he has made it more difficult for them

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Speaker 1: to move him with his comments, including earlier this week

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Speaker 1: when he talked about how he doesn't need football. He

788
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Speaker 1: does with his contract demands, which may have been passed

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Speaker 1: along by his agent to the Buffalo Bills. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, here's the aestimated easy, here's yeah. But

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00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing you're forgetting Murph. He doesn't care because

792
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: he's not playing for Pittsburgh again, he doesn't care if

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00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: they trade him or not. He's made that clear with

794
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: that Crackpot interview. He did it. He's gonna sit at home.

795
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: The Steelers have got to trade him for whatever they

796
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: can get because he will absolutely not play for them ever. Again,

797
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: that's where he's that's the leverage he's got, and the

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00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Steelers know it. So they've got to drum up in triest.

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Speaker 1: They've got to find a taker for him, because if

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Speaker 1: it comes to it, if if Antonio Brown doesn't play

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: for the Steelers and they don't trade him, he's not

802
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: playing for anybody and they're stuck without him. But here's

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00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: the thing. They just went through this with Levion Bell.

804
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: He didn't play for anybody, you know what I mean?

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00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: That's right now. Who won that situation? I don't know.

806
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: I don't know who won that. Did the Steelers win well?

807
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: This year? Did Bell win? It doesn't appear so well.

808
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: I guess. My point is the Steelers are used to

809
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: their top players saying, oh, I'm not playing here anymore,

810
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: and the Steelers are like, well, okay, now where does

811
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: that get you? Probably not very far in the postseason.

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: The problem is Antonio Brown's got a contract and Levion

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00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Bell didn't. They offered him fourteen and a half. They

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00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: offer him made him a great Who were kidding? They?

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Speaker 1: They offered him two years ago, they offered him thirty

816
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: million guaranteed in the first two years. He turned it down.

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00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the Levion Bell is never ever going to

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 1: make the money back that he lost by holding out

819
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: and not signing the franchise tag. He's never ever gonna

820
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: make it back. It was a bad business decision on him.

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Speaker 1: He may have made some sort of moral statement about

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Speaker 1: the state of the league and about how players don't

823
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: have the right to play where they want or whatever

824
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: you can say. He might have won that, but he's

825
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: certainly never gonna make the fourteen point five million dollars

826
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Speaker 1: back that he left on the table this year. It's

827
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: two different things. But you're right, the Steelers, if Antonio

828
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Speaker 1: Brown decides not to play, the Steelers don't get a

829
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: commensurate return for Antonio Brown. They'll keep him. And he's

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: got to make a decision whether he's gonna play or

831
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: whether he's not gonna play. And I and to me,

832
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: his only play, his only move is not to play.

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00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy, you know that. It's how you

834
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: interpret this is interesting. Whether it's it's just a good

835
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: deal for the Bills a bad deal for the Bills.

836
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: They went through this. They don't get Antonio Brown. There's

837
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: no question. This is bad for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

838
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: it has been for a couple of weeks or months

839
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: with this guy, right, Yeah, that good if they got

840
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: close or listen, whether if they got down the road

841
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: with the bills on the trade and it didn't happen.

842
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: That's bad for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That is bad. It

843
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: is bad. But listen that Steelers are far from a

844
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. Sure, yeah, I'm not sure. Listen, they've got

845
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: they've got a quarterback who they have enabled to be

846
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: a bad teammate and they're paying the price for that.

847
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: But he's a great player, truly a great player, one

848
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: of the all time great throwers of the football. He's

849
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: one of them, a couple of Super Bowls, he is

850
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: a truly a great player, and he's earned whatever he gets.

851
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: But he has decided to wield the power he has

852
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: within the organization in such a way that alienates some teammates,

853
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: his teammates. That sounds like the beginning of a dumpster

854
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: fire to me. Yeah, it would be if he wasn't

855
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: in his fourteenth or fifteenth year. You know, they don't

856
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: have to live with it for very long. That's an

857
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: interesting position, Carl from Morrisonville, New York. Where's Morrisonville? Carl,

858
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't even know where that is, saying on the

859
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: map as Plattsburgh, right on Lake sham Play. Oh wow,

860
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: you're a way over there. Great. I love Lake Champlain.

861
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: We have four exits short of the Canadian board. Yeah, okay,

862
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: there you got a lot of snow. I been huh, yes,

863
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: we still do. Okay, what's on your mind, Carl? Right now,

864
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: it's only in the teams. Yeah, okay, that's where we

865
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: got too. What do you got, Carl? Okay. I was wondering,

866
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: could this maybe to a slight degree or a big

867
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: degree reveal maybe with the fact that it wasn't an

868
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: easy deal to make the Bills feel on their board

869
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: they've got a shot at either say Metcalf or one

870
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: of the top receiving tight ends in the first round,

871
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: so therefore it balanced out trying to get out. Yeah,

872
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: may I'm sure it's part of a bigger plan, no

873
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: question about it. I think this is more about a

874
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: really elite player that's being that's been made available through

875
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: whatever circumstance you want to conjure, and they felt it was.

876
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: They're duting their job to go out and check it

877
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: out and make sure that they didn't want him and

878
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: couldn't get him for something that was palatable to them

879
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: and their salary cap and their struck and their economics

880
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: of their team. So I Antonio Brown makes whatever team

881
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: he's on, if he's if he is on your team,

882
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: playing and he's happy. He is as good a receiver

883
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: as there is in the National Football League, bar none.

884
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: He's he's in the top handful of guys in the league,

885
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: if not the top guy. So he's that's I think

886
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: at the core of what they're doing now. Certainly he does.

887
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: That does mesh into the fact that we're six or

888
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: six and a half weeks away from the draft, and

889
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: they've got to make sure that whatever they have on

890
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: their roster at that time they've got a handle on,

891
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: which will dictate, you know, the players that they need,

892
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: the positions they need. But I don't think m Antonio Brown,

893
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: when you look at this, this is all about just

894
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown being a great player, and they're going out

895
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: to get him. Now, they'll fix everything else. All the

896
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: things that you mentioned, whether CK or DK Metcalf or

897
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: one of the other great receivers in the draft are

898
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Whether they really need to take him,

899
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: they may not because they've already got Antonio Brown something

900
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: like that. So, yeah, that's on the table, But I

901
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think that's the reason they went out and checked

902
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: out Antonio Brown. They're doing that because he's a great player. Yeah,

903
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: if he's happy and productive and showing up, which he

904
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: wasn't at the end of last year he was not. Yeah,

905
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: we got a break here. We're back with more One

906
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

907
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Mack. One Bills Live

908
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy, this is Steve Tasker.

909
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Obviously we were talking about Antonio Brown. The Bills and

910
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Steelers discussed the trade, and they didn't make it happen.

911
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: The positive discussions, according to Random Being, Ultimately it did

912
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: not make sense for either side. Being said, we moved

913
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: on and our focuses on free agency. What do you

914
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: think of that? Did you want Antonio Brown on the

915
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills? Right, Yeah, it didn't make sense free to

916
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: side either. You know, the Steelers didn't want the compensation

917
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: the Bills offered or the Bills didn't want to pay

918
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: as much as the Steelers were asking. Either way, they

919
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: couldn't get the deal done. And and everybody moves on

920
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: towards free agency. And I think one of the reasons

921
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: the Steelers wanted to have this done. They put this imposed,

922
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: this barrier, this deadline, this today of to get this

923
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown deal done. One of the reasons probably was

924
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: free agency on the horizon. If they had him off

925
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: the books, their number changes and they know who they

926
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: were going to sign and who which guys are there's

927
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: they could resign. Yep, call here from Nick and Alden. Hello, Nick,

928
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: you're on the air morning and gentlemen, Hello, how are

929
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: you go ahead? Nick, I'm good. Hey, A couple of points. Um,

930
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm kind of fifty fifty with the whole Antonio Brown trade.

931
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: I'd like to believe that we have a strong enough

932
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: locker room and coaching staff and to maybe I don't

933
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: reign in Antonio Brown if we were to make this

934
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: trade work. I mean, if he's if he if he's

935
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: that toxic towards Ben Roethlisberger, I think he'd be more

936
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: and daring to the group of men that we have

937
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: in the locker room. It's speculation at this point. I mean,

938
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: if it's just between him and Ben, I mean, nobody's saying,

939
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's him in the locker room, which is

940
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: him and Ben. So I think, you know, with the

941
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: leadership that we have in the locker room and having

942
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy have already gone through this, I think Lashan

943
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: McCoy could have been like, hey, you know, bring it in,

944
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: let's comment down and just just you know, play it

945
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: out and see what happens. I mean anything, And you know,

946
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: again this is mostly speculation, but you know, everybody seems

947
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: to have forgotten, you know, does Bryan last year? I mean,

948
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I think there's a pattern here developing between players and

949
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: these new gms just not wanting to bring in certain

950
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: players because of the outside noise that is going on.

951
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, you make an interesting point, Nick, and I

952
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: do think the Lashawan McCoy parallel is interesting because it

953
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: was only four years ago and Steve mentioned it, you know,

954
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: four years ago. McCoy not happy about the trade. Initially

955
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: they gave him a new contract. McCoy, as we know,

956
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: is um. I do not want to insult him, but

957
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: he's self centered, right, he is aware of how many

958
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: yards he has career wise, what he wants to do

959
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: in his career. He is, But I think he has

960
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: also become a good teammate here in Buffalo Now, whether

961
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: or not, I think it's up for debate whether or

962
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: not that would or could happen with Antonio Brown. But

963
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: there is those Sean McCoy parallel, Steve, a guy not

964
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: happy initially about a trade to the Buffalo Bills who

965
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: stuck with it, got a new contract which obviously was

966
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: a big deal, and has become an important player here.

967
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: Could that happen with Antonio Brown? I don't know. I

968
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Yeah, it's

969
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: a call or Nick makes a good observation as well,

970
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: and you can handle. And I've had I've had conversations

971
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: like this with coaches around the NFL and over the years,

972
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: where they say, you know, you do want guys like

973
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot said, we we don't care if they're choir boys.

974
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: We want guys that are committed to football, that are

975
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: that show good leadership skills, that want to be as

976
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: good as they can be. They want to they want

977
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: to help the team get better. They want to be

978
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: everything you want your professional football players to be. But

979
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: they also know that you need you know that there's

980
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: not not fifty all fifty three guys and all you

981
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad, all sixty two or three

982
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: guys that are in the room are gonna be like that.

983
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna have some guys that you know you you

984
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: gotta watch, and there's room for some of that. You

985
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: can absorb something. You can keep those guys in the

986
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: straight ror when there's nobody there enabling them. There's nobody

987
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: there who's like saying, Hi, you know, yeah, let's let's

988
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: all go do that. It's all let's all blow off

989
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: the walk through today and go go to the bar

990
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, there's nobody else saying that they

991
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: can they can function in a really quality locker room

992
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: because there's nobody who's who are enabling them to be distractions.

993
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: You've got to think that that would be the thought

994
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: process for Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot say, listen, okay,

995
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring Aby in here. If he's gonna start

996
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: to be a problem, we've got to make sure that

997
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: we've got enough guys who will say, hey, maybe we

998
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: don't do that here. You know, you're gonna come on,

999
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: let's pick it up. You're gonna do it this way.

1000
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: This is the way we do it. Let's go and

1001
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: you gotta they're gonna have to do that so you can.

1002
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: And that happened to me and the teams that I

1003
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: was on. You you know, you there were certain guys, man,

1004
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: you just hope they showed up on time. They were

1005
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: really good players. But you know, it's not the kind

1006
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: They're not the guys you wanted to take home to

1007
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: meet mom and aunt and uncle. Right, yeah, so but

1008
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but you know what, there's room for

1009
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: those guys. They're part of the family and you embrace

1010
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: them and you and you try and make them better

1011
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: and they appreciate it. You appreciate them. So you can

1012
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: have guys like that on your team. It helps. I'll

1013
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: say this too. I didn't think about it until just

1014
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: this minute. It helps when they're elite players. Yeah, if

1015
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: you medicated, right, yeah, if if it helps when the

1016
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: guys that you're trying to rain in you have elite

1017
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: players on your team that can rain in other elite players.

1018
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: That's where it was on that Shitty was a captain

1019
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: this year. That's the way it was on my teams.

1020
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, those guys held each other accountable. That you know,

1021
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: all the hall of guys are they're on the whole

1022
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: of fame now. They all held each other accountable and

1023
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: they became better players and better people because of it.

1024
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: Got a lot more to talk about with this. Obviously,

1025
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: we're here until three, um, Steve and I will continue

1026
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: our talks with you. The telephone calls, the tweet cheet,

1027
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: we will read, we'll revisit the Twitter pole. Coming up

1028
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: in the next hour. We'll also talk with Greg Cosell

1029
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: NFL matchup ESPN. We'll talk with him a little bit

1030
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: about this, and I want to get into him a

1031
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: little bit about exactly how good a fit would Antonio

1032
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: Brown have ben with this Buffalo off with this Buffalo quarterback,

1033
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: but other issues as well with Great Cosell. That's coming

1034
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: up next hour. And Steve, we do have to mention

1035
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: we mentioned it last week in Indianapolis at the Combine,

1036
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: and it is sad and new was our friend Dick Buyer,

1037
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: four time wrestling World Champion, passed away yesterday at his

1038
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: home in the Akron surrounded by his wife and his children.

1039
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week, how he was undergoing

1040
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: a number of health challenges and he did succumb yesterday.

1041
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: The Destroyer Dick Bayer longtime football coach. He was a

1042
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: great coach at Syracuse University in the late nineteen fifties,

1043
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: a swim coach and wrestling coach at Akron High School.

1044
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: He was eighty eight years old and a champion wrestler,

1045
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: four time world champion, nearly eight thousand matches in the US.

1046
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: In Japan, he was a superstar in Japan. Dick Buyer,

1047
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: the Destroyer passed away yesterday at the age of eighty eight.

1048
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: A great guy, a good friend. I've known him for

1049
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: probably thirty years. I know you had a number of

1050
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: encounters with him as well. Yeah, we're gonna miss him.

1051
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: He was a he was an icon here in Buffalo

1052
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: over one of the fixtures of Buffalo Sports Landscape and

1053
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: you'd see him, he'd turn up a different evance. It's

1054
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: always great to se We're gonna miss I'm gonna miss

1055
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Speaker 1: seeing him. We send their best wishes to Wilma Buyer

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00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: and her family, and we will miss The Destroyer. No

1057
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: question about that Dick Buyer. All right, coming back with

1058
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this

1059
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills Radio Network Stories update. The

1060
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. So, the Bills did discuss

1061
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: the trade involving star wide receiver Antonio Brown this week,

1062
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: but no deal. The Steelers told teams they wanted to

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00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: trade him by Friday. Bills general manager Brandon Being issued

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00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: a statement today saying we inquired about Antonio Brown on Tuesday,

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00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: kept talks open, positive discussions, but ultimately it didn't make

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00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: sense for either side. Being went on to say we

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00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: have moved on and our focus is on free agency.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about that all day long here on One

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00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Rive. Meantime, the Steelers have been busy day have

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00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: signed up a couple of offensive linemen, resigning center Marquis

1071
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: Power and gard Ramone Foster to multi year deals. Pouncey

1072
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: will become the NFL's highest paid center at eleven million

1073
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: dollars per season over three years, Foster signing for two

1074
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: years a deal worth eight point two five million dollars.

1075
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos have agreed to trade quarterback case Keenum to

1076
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins for a sixth round pick in twenty twenty.

1077
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: According to ESPN, Washington will also get a twenty twenty

1078
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: seventh rounder from Denver. Keenham, currently slated to count twenty

1079
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: one million against the Broncos salary cap for twenty nineteen,

1080
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: has reworked his contract as he makes his way to Washington.

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00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: Savers play at Colorado three o'clock tomorrow. Afternoon. Last night,

1082
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo one back and forth in Chicago, but came away

1083
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: with a point and a four shootout loss to the

1084
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Blackhawks in Chicago last night. Goals last night for Vladimer Sobaka,

1085
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Montour, Zach Legojan, and kyleak Poso for the Buffalo Sabers.

1086
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: They are at Colorado tomorrow. From ESPN, word that Bill Polian,

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00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: former Bills general manager, Hall of Famer Bill Polian, is

1088
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: stepping away from his duties with ESPN after seven years

1089
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: as NFL front insider. The Hall of Famer is retiring

1090
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: from ESPN. He's been there since March of twenty twelve.

1091
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: Polly initiative statement saying, after talking it over with my family,

1092
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: we decided now is the right time to finish this

1093
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: chapter of my career college basketball. You beat Bolls home

1094
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: for their final regular season game tonight six o'clock tip

1095
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: off at Alumni Arena for nineteenth rank you b and

1096
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: Bowling Green Kennisius opens play in the Mental Atlantic Conference

1097
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: Tournament today in Albany. Tonight nine thirty. They tip off

1098
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: against Manhattan Kannisians, the number two seed in the MAC Tournament.

1099
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker, our number two is here for

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. It's Friday and

1101
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: on Fridays. He has erected it last week. Excuse me,

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00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: we talked with Gregg Cosell. He is an NFL insider

1103
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: on ESPN. Greg Cosell from NFL Matchup on ESPN, longtime

1104
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: senior producer for NFL Films, Greg, How are you, John

1105
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve here in Buffalo? How are you doing?

1106
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: See what's going on? Well, it's another quiet Friday here

1107
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: around the Buffalo Bills. Great, No mean currently there's a

1108
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: lot going on in the NFL. You know, yeah, I

1109
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: thought this was the time to roll ax. Now nobody

1110
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: waits for free DC anymore. Hey, Greg guy. Obviously, the

1111
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: trade report confirmed by the Bills. They were talking with

1112
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers about Antonio Brown and from your perspective, breaking

1113
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: down tape, breaking down tape, knowing what you know about players,

1114
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: both Antonio Brown and the Buffalo Bills, if it would

1115
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: have happened, how good a fit with Antonio Brown had

1116
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: been for the Buffalo Bills do you think? Well, if

1117
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: I think Antonio Brown's a good fit anywhere. And again

1118
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking based on his play on tape. You know,

1119
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's like in the locker room.

1120
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of guy is. Those things

1121
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: do factor in when teams make the decision, particularly when

1122
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: you have a young team and a young quarterback. So

1123
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: I can't speak to that part of it. But on tape,

1124
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is a great receiver who would fit in

1125
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: any scheme, any system, with any team. Yeah. And he

1126
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: and even though he's not like the six four type guy,

1127
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: he's like a five ten, five eleven guy. He's still

1128
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: a number one to your mind, right, oh, without question.

1129
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: When you watch tape for the Steelers, he's the guy

1130
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: that teams double and you don't double guys that you

1131
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: don't feel are big time receivers because you're obviously allocating

1132
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: two players to defend him. So Antonio Brown, He's one

1133
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: of those guys that can line up anywhere in the formation.

1134
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: You can use him in motion. He's a movement player.

1135
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: He can line up at X, he can be Z,

1136
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: he can line up in the slot. He's just a

1137
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: great receiver. He's a difference maker, right, And that had

1138
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: to be even with some of the baggage he might have.

1139
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: That had to be what appealed to the Bills to

1140
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: at least get involved in this, the chance that you

1141
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: have to get a guy who was a difference maker

1142
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: in Antonio Brown. Oh, without question. I mean it was

1143
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: certainly worth investigating. As you guys probably know, teams know

1144
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: all about players, they speak to other teams, they know

1145
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: what they're like. So the decision was made obviously not

1146
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: to go after him. Whether it was made based on

1147
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: their study of the player as a person, whether it

1148
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: was based on what the Steelers want, But whatever the reason,

1149
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: the Bills have decided not to do it. Which, by

1150
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: the way, guys, I don't know Antonio Brown, but I

1151
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: would have to think that it's it's probably better that

1152
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: they didn't because you've got a young quarterback, You've got

1153
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: a year you're trying to build a young team around

1154
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, and I'm just not sure how that

1155
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: would play out. Have you seen any drop off in

1156
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: his play? He's thirty years old, and really the only

1157
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: downside too Antonio Brown is that he's a nine year

1158
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: veteran or not a four year veteran. Have you seen

1159
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: a drop off in his play? No? Not really. You know,

1160
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: the one thing Steve with the Steelers is the Steelers

1161
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: are very isolation individual route based, so they ask their

1162
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: receivers to basically win one on one whether they line

1163
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: up outside or inside, and very often you have a

1164
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger who moves around a bit and

1165
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: then finds receivers on improvisationally second reaction movement. Now Josh

1166
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: Allen certainly capable of that, but Antonio Brown has made

1167
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: a lot of plays in Pittsburgh like that where their

1168
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: second reaction plays and he was very much in sync

1169
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger. Hey, Greg, from what you know about

1170
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: the Bills, how they play, what their offense looked like

1171
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: last year, what do you think is the best type

1172
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: of receiver they should be in the market for. What

1173
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: type of receiver might be good for Bills? Either in

1174
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: the draft or in free agency. I think they need

1175
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: a big X, a guy that can win one on

1176
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: one in today's NFL Murph, I think that you need

1177
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: that receiver who lines up to the boundary, the single

1178
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: receiver to the boundary. He gets one on one coverage

1179
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: because in today's NFL, most defenses, even if their zone based,

1180
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: will match up and lock the X, and you need

1181
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: an X receiver who can win. If you can get

1182
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: that guy, then someone like Robert Foster becomes a very

1183
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: valuable player as your Z, the guy you can move,

1184
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: the guy who can get vertical. But Foster is not

1185
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: an X. They need a big X. And speaking of

1186
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: the wide receiver market looking for a big X, there's

1187
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: a draft coming up. What are your thoughts on the guys?

1188
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Who's the best X in the draft? Well,

1189
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a guy that I really like, and

1190
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: that's a Keem Butler at a Biowa State. He's came

1191
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: in over six to five at the combine two twenty seven.

1192
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: He ran a four four ninety, which is really good

1193
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: for that size. Vertical chump was really good. But the

1194
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: important thing is his tape is really good and he

1195
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: presents to me a fascinating combination of size, stride length, hands,

1196
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: body control, somewhat of a vertical dimension as well. And

1197
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a quintessential classic X receiver in the NFL.

1198
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: And I you know, again, I'm not one of those

1199
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: mock draft guys. My guess is he would be available

1200
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: early in the second round. I don't know that, but

1201
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I think to me he'd be sort of your classic

1202
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: X receiver. Greg, you're at the combine and because, yeah,

1203
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: because of his combined workout, a lot of people came

1204
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: away raven about DK metcalf. What do you think of him?

1205
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: And what did you see in his workout? What do

1206
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: you see in the tape? Did you look at at him? Yeah?

1207
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the workout was absurd for a man

1208
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: that size. The forty yard dash was phenomenal, but I

1209
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: gotta tell you some of his other numbers were not

1210
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: very good at all, because he's really not a flexible athlete.

1211
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: He's a big, straight line, linear, explosive athlete. And he

1212
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: can run by people for sure. I mean I watched

1213
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: his tape and he ran by off coverage corners in

1214
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: the SEC, So he can run by people. He's an

1215
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: explosive athlete and he can defeat press coverage with his size,

1216
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: his strength. He had a sense of how to do it.

1217
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: You start thinking of big receivers. He's not Julio Jones.

1218
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't move quite like that. He's not as flexible.

1219
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: But then you start thinking of the Mike Evans, the

1220
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon's. I think back to a Vincent Jackson. You

1221
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: think of those kinds of receivers. But he's an explosive guy.

1222
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: He just has to work on route running and the

1223
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: flexibility thing. Some teams will they'll struggle with that. How

1224
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: deep is this class of wide receivers in this draft?

1225
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. I've watched probably about twenty

1226
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: of them. You know, I think that if you look

1227
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: at a list of wide receivers, there's a lot of

1228
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: good ones. I mean, it just depends on what you want,

1229
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: you know. I think they need an X. Another guy

1230
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: who's very intriguing is an X is Miles Boykin from

1231
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, who actually his numbers at the combine were

1232
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: really good as well. So I went back and I

1233
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: sort of rewatched his tape because I didn't go into

1234
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the combine thinking Wow, Miles Boykin is a guy who's

1235
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: going to be big time. But his tape was pretty good.

1236
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: He has the size, physical phrase, He's got the look

1237
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: of a boundary X receiver. As you transition him to

1238
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: the NFL over six three, Steve two hundred and twenty

1239
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: pounds ran a four four two. His other numbers in

1240
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: in the other events, you know, the other tests were

1241
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: very good. His vertical was forty three and a half.

1242
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean that he's another guy who may not be

1243
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: ready day one, but I think he has X written

1244
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: all over him. On the Subway Fresh Day Contline with

1245
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell at executive producer analyst for ESPN's NFL Matchup. Hey, Greg,

1246
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: since we talked to the Combine last week, you know

1247
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: they threw quarterbacks through receivers, caught any of the quarterbacks

1248
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: through through non including Kyler Murray. Get your attention. Last week,

1249
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: thought maybe they had a pretty good weekend. Well again,

1250
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: if you're just looking at the combine, A one player

1251
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: who I thought it really stood out and it's gonna

1252
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: make me go back and watch another game or two,

1253
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: even though I've watched a lot of them, was Jars

1254
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: did him. Jarrets did him? I thought probably had the

1255
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: best combine of all the quarterbacks, and as I said,

1256
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: it was better than his tape. I know he's working

1257
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: with Jordan Palmer and the Jordan does a really really

1258
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: good job with quarterbacks, but I thought Jared stid him

1259
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: both in his foot work, with the drops, the way

1260
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: the ball came out. He looked very, very good. A

1261
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: lot of eyes on Tyree Jackson, the Buffalo kid. What

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Speaker 1: did you see from him at the townbine? What do

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Speaker 1: you know about him? Yeah, well, I've watched him on

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Speaker 1: tape both last summer and again, you know, watching him now,

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Speaker 1: you know, after this season, and I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: moving parts to his delivery. He's a big kid. I

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Speaker 1: think he needs to really be tightened up. He's deliberate

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Speaker 1: and everything he does, he's a little loose. He's a

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Speaker 1: little undisciplined. But he's a flash play quarterback right now.

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Speaker 1: The plays he does make, they look very very good

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Speaker 1: and people will get excited. But there's also a part

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Speaker 1: of me that made me think of Logan Thomas when

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Speaker 1: he came out of Virginia Tech. And we know, as

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Speaker 1: you know that Logan Thomas is not an NFL quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: He's a tight end. Now, Actually, Greg, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you about this. Kyler Murray was the darling of the draft.

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Speaker 1: He was the centerpiece. He didn't throw. How important is

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Speaker 1: it for him? And what is he still looking to

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Speaker 1: do at his pro day coming up? I believe in

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Speaker 1: March thirteenth, right, what you got to do? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless he's terrible, I'd be very surprised if he's not

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft, Steve, because if

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Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals, you don't hire Cliff Kingsbury, who has

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Speaker 1: a defined system. It's the only system he knows. Coaches

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Speaker 1: coach what they know. And Josh Rosen is not that

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Speaker 1: kind of quarterback and Kyler Murray is. And you don't

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Speaker 1: bring in Cliff Kingsbury and then handcuff him and say

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Speaker 1: you have to play with a quarterback who doesn't fit

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Speaker 1: your system? Then why did you bring him in? So,

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Speaker 1: unless Kyler Murray is absolutely terrible, and I doubt it,

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray will be the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Well, hey, Greg, case Keenham goes to Washington,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of that move? And what's left?

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Speaker 1: What can the Redskins hope to get from case Keenum

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Speaker 1: a quarterback? Well, they needed quarterbacks because Alex Smith will

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Speaker 1: likely not play. I know that Jake Gruten loves Colton McCoy,

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Speaker 1: but Colton McCoy has always been injured. We don't know

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Speaker 1: where he stands, so they need quarterback competition. My guess

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Speaker 1: is they'll probably draft one as well. Whether they do

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Speaker 1: that in the first round, that we don't know. But

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Speaker 1: I think they just need NFL professional quarterbacks, and case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: while certainly not a great quarterback and probably best served

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Speaker 1: at being a backup Murph, is at least a professional quarterback.

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Speaker 1: One other quarterback I want to ask you about specifically

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Speaker 1: was the Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins. Now he had

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Speaker 1: at times during a regular season of college football, was thought,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's going to be the first pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a really good player. What are

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Speaker 1: your what's your assessment of Dwayne Haskins. Well, he's a

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Speaker 1: prototypical pocket quarterback, Steve and you know family. Though, the

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Speaker 1: one area in which I think he really needs to

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Speaker 1: improve he can throw the football is his pocket movement.

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Speaker 1: Because pocket quarterbacks in today's NFL, they have to be

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Speaker 1: able to navigate within the pocket. We see Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: do it. He's done it for years at a really

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Speaker 1: high level. You don't have to be a great athlete,

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Speaker 1: you have to be what we call a quarterback athlete.

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Speaker 1: And when I watched Dwayne Haskins, his feet are a

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Speaker 1: little slow. I think he's got to get a little

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Speaker 1: quicker in his movement. He's not going to run around

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Speaker 1: and beat you, but within the pocket, he has got

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Speaker 1: to become better. Greg we're not in free agency yet,

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Speaker 1: but the Bills have already had some street free agents

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Speaker 1: in for visits, including Farmer, Colts and Patriots and Dwayne Allen.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of him? Is he sell a

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Speaker 1: viable receiver or more of a blocking type tight end

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Speaker 1: these days? Well, in New England, he wasn't really used

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Speaker 1: much as a receiver, and I thought he was a

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Speaker 1: pretty decent receiver coming out of Clemson going to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: He's not the kind of guy I'll catch eighty balls,

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: but you know, I think that he's he's a viable receiver.

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Speaker 1: But as we've discussed, the guy, I really liked that

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Speaker 1: they have and I'm anxious to see him is Crum.

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Speaker 1: I think Crum has a chance to be a really

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Speaker 1: good receiving tight end, a former wide receiver moves well.

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Speaker 1: I think as this pass geame develops with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: I think Crum really has a chance to be a

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Speaker 1: good player well. One of the other players that the

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Speaker 1: Bills had in to visit was Kevin Johnson, former first

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Speaker 1: round cornerback. Houston Texans released him. He'd been a little

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Speaker 1: injury plagued down for Houston and they decided to part

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: ways with him. I guess as a former first round

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Speaker 1: or the thing I told the guys here was, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's got some measurables. Do they show up on film?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's played as well in

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Speaker 1: the NFL as I thought, you know, coming out a

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Speaker 1: Wake Forest, I really liked him. I thought he was smooth.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was really understood how to play his zone,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing in um in Buffalo because

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Speaker 1: Sean and Leslie play a tone his own. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always thought that he looked at the part Steve,

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: but he got hurt a lot and it just never

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: quite worked out. Greg, I got one more for you yet, you,

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: your old buddy from NFL Films, JJ Torino and I

1356
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: have had an ongoing discussion the last few days year

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Speaker 1: about the glut of safeties being released out on the market. Now,

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Speaker 1: what's going on in the NFL? Why are all these

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Speaker 1: safeties probably most of them were a little bit overcompensated,

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Speaker 1: But why are teams getting rid of their safeties right

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Speaker 1: now and looking to turn the page there? And you're

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Speaker 1: having this conversation with JJ. Yes, is that a bad move?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'll have to think

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Speaker 1: about two. You know, that's a great question to me.

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Speaker 1: There's a disconnect here because when I talk to defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 1: they talk about the importance of the safety position in

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Speaker 1: today's NFL. So somewhere along the line, there's a disconnect.

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Speaker 1: And I happen to think safety has become a really

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Speaker 1: important physician in this league. So I can't understand that.

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Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for that because I think,

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Speaker 1: like I said, when you talk to coordinators, they really

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Speaker 1: feel safeties are important. Yeah, I don't get it either.

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Speaker 1: I got one. I don't want to circle back for

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: just a second. The unbelievable part about this whole scenario.

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Speaker 1: At the top of the draft, we spoke about Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and how you think he's going to be the

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Speaker 1: top player picked in the draft. That leaves Josh Rosen

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Speaker 1: standing there. Yeah, Now he look around the league. If

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Speaker 1: you would where would he fit. I'm not saying where

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Speaker 1: he's likely to go, but you know, where would he

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Speaker 1: fit as a as a young quarterback who really was

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: in a really rough spot last year in Arizona. You

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01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: know what would be the perfect scenario if you were

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen's guardian, Angel Well, I think Josh Rosen is

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Speaker 1: essentially a drop back quarterback who would work well with

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Speaker 1: a team that still puts the quarterback under center a

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Speaker 1: decent amount. I think he'd be very good in the

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Speaker 1: play action pass game. He's very rhythmic, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: he drops back, he plans, he scans. He's a little

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: bit old school, I guess, but I don't think that

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: ever goes out of fashion. I think the ability to

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 1: drop back and deliver the ball from the pocket will

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01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: never go out of fashion in the NFL. He's not

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01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: going to run around, although he's a better athlete than

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01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: people probably think, so, you know, again, without looking at

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Speaker 1: every team in the league. Steve, I think that there's

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01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: definitely a place for him. You know. Then you started

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Speaker 1: looking at teams that need quarterbacks and uh, you know again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not scanning every team right now, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's the style of quarterback he is. We're gonna have

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: an interesting couple of weeks. Greg. We're We're glad we're

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Speaker 1: back on your weekly schedule. We'll talk to again next week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate. Great Cosell is NFL Matchup executive producer,

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: analyst on ESPN, senior producer in NFL Films, the author

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01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: of the book The Games That Change the Game. Great

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01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: co Sell joins us most fridays. Glad to have him back.

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Speaker 1: This Friday. We have news here today from one Bills driver.

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: As we said, talked about it all day. The Bills

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01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: were involved with the Steelers, talked about Antonio Brown, but

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: they have moved on after what Brandon Bean said, We're

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: positive discussions, he said, after a while, it didn't make

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Speaker 1: sense for either side. We've moved on and our focuses

1413
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: on free agency. Our Twitter poll today deals with that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think would you have been okay had

1415
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: the Bills made a trade for Antonio Brown on Twitter.

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: The pole reads, would you have wanted wide receiver Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown on the Buffalo Bills. We've got fifteen hundred responses.

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Speaker 1: It's fairly closed. Sixty one percent though, say no, thirty nine. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got some interesting feedback on the tweet sheet from

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Speaker 1: Daryl F twenty nine. Wanted is a strong word. I

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Speaker 1: would have accepted it based on his talent. He's arguably

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in the NFL, but considering his age,

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01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: contract demands, in recent behavior, he's probably not worth it

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Speaker 1: in the end. Props to being for trying, though, I

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: think that's kind of in the wheelhouse of where most

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Speaker 1: people are. They would have said, Okay, I mean, we'll

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Speaker 1: give him a try as particularly if the price isn't

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: too steep. But they've kind of got one foot out

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: of that bucket thing, and I'm not gonna only commit

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: to being an Antonio Brown fan until he comes in

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01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: and starts acting right because they've seen the recent behavior.

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I think that's where most people fall.

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: They understand he's a great receiver, but they do worry

1434
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: about the off the field stuff. Here's a call on

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Speaker 1: this topic from Jim and Denver. Jim, go ahead, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air of this. Hey guys, Happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jim, you too, you bet you bet. Listen to

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01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: the Antonio Browns. As the last Twitter guy said, I

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that the bean goes and takes a look,

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: does his due diligence, tries to figure out if there's

1441
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: a deal to work. But one Antonio Brown, for whatever reason,

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want to come to Buffalore, doesn't think that's a

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01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: good destination for him, then that's a good idea to

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: back out of that deal. Yeah, and again I don't

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: know that that's the case though, Jim, I mean Steve

1446
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: and I I'm not I won't speak for Steve. I

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: believe it never got that far where Antonio Brown could

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: even say I don't want to go to Buffalo. I

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: think it was more like, uh, what's the contract going

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: to be like? And I think I don't think you

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01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: got to Antonio Brown to want to go to Buffalo

1452
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: or not. I think it was you want to play

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: for this amount of money or not? Right. Yeah, I

1454
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: don't think I've done I think he got the wrong idea.

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: If you think somebody said, hey, we're gonna trade you

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, and Antonio Brown says, no, you're not. I

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: don't think it happened like that. I don't think it's

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: anywhere near that. Um. When I saw the tweets of

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, you know, talking about that that's fake news.

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: He's not going there. He doesn't want to go there, right,

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: according to his own tweets. That's kind of what the

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: way I took it. But did I saw the fake news?

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01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: But did he say I don't want to go there

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01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Jim Oh, we lost him? Did he say

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: that that I miss I missed. I must have missed that.

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: It's not I got to spend more time on Twitter.

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: That might have been. I saw the fake news, But

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Speaker 1: I don't recall at any point Antonio Brown saying I'm

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01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: not going there, right, Yeah, he said it's false news.

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Speaker 1: He said he's not going there. But that was where

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: did he say he's not going there? That was after

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: fake news he said, and it was fake news. There

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: was no trade, right. I don't know if he ever well,

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: here's he think I could be wrong, correct me if

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01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: I wrong. I don't think Antonio Brown ever said on

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: Twitter to a person at any point did he ever

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01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: say I'm not going to Buffalo. I don't think you

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01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: said that. I don't think you got that far right. Yeah,

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01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: he might have acknowledged that he's not going to Buffalo

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: after the fact, but that doesn't mean he wasn't going

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01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: to Buffalo because he didn't want to go to Buffalo.

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think he might. I

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: don't know when those tweets came out. I we'll go

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01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: back and look, well, during the next break, we'll have

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01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: our young guys who know how to work Twitter go

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: back and look at that timeline. But I think, yeah,

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01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: that's not the that's not I don't think the way

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: it came down exactly, that timeline is not quite right.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break here, we're coming

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Speaker 1: back and we've got time to talk with you on

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Speaker 1: the phone lines eight three five fifty twel three one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Would you want

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01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: an Antonio Brown on the bills. That's the question we're

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: putting out there. You can respond by a Twitter. Maybe

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01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: he'll get your tweet rent on the tweet sheet, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker one Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Buffalo From One Bill's Drive, this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Welcome Back. It's John Murphy and Steve Tasker. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Were here until three o'clock today. We got

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexanderstein to bind to join us at two. Lorenzo

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: has some thoughts on Antonio brown saga. The saga is

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: this no deal might not have been that close to

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: a deal. As a matter of fact, Steve and I

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: are doing our due diligence finding out that the Bills

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01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: obviously and they said that they had positive discussions with

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers, but they I don't think they were that

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: close right they they talked to the Steelers. There was

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: a it's a complicated deal because it does involve a

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: new contract, we believe for Antonio Brown, and they didn't

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01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: get very far at all with that, So it wasn't

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: that close to being a deal. We're guessing that his

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: contract expectations might have been a little bit too rich

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills and the Steelers. By the way,

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: ESPN reports Steelers have talked to six or seventeen, some

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: of them including the Packers. I've already backed out it

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: might be going on all over the league, Steve Right,

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: people contact why wouldn't you, right, the Steelers Right, put

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: them out there Monday or Tuesday this week, they say

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: we want to deal by Friday. Teams call the Bills called,

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01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: which I think is great, get you know, the ball rolling,

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: and then they maybe reach out to his agent and say, WHOA,

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: that's that's not what we're looking for here. That's not

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: the kind of money word considering for him. Right, and

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: then you back out six or seven other teams. ESPN says,

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: I've talked to the Steelers and nobody's got a deal yet.

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: I salute the Bills for being aggressive making a play

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: for it. He is certainly a game changer, a difference

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: making a wide receiver. But we want to hear from you,

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: right Phone lines open eight o three fifty, toll free

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01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty or

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. Would you have wanted Antonio Brown on the

1532
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills? What do you think? Yes? No, simple yes

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: or no question. We'll ted calls on it. We got

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Speaker 1: lines open and we're taking some tweets on it as well.

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: Steve Yeah, and some of the people we mentioned in

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: our last segment about you know he did or didn't

1537
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: say and a Antonio Brown put out a tweet last

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: night saying it was fake news. That was all the

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01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: stuff that came out. It was after the deal was

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: completely shot, so it wasn't like, uh he was answering

1541
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, he said it was fake news. The

1542
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: NFL put out the Buffalo Bills are closing in. Yeah,

1543
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: exactly the NFL. The Bills are closing in on a

1544
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: deal to acquire Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown via the

1545
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: rap sheet. Uh, you know Ian Rappaport. Uh. And then

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01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: after that, Antonio Brown said as fake news, Well, this

1547
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: was all about two or it was hours after the

1548
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: deal had the Bills had backed away anyway, so it

1549
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: wasn't like, yeah, okay, so all the stuff about Andrew

1550
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: Brown is something out. I nixed the deal because I

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01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to be Buffalo. It's all. It's not didn't

1552
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: happened fake news. It's not true, Danny tweets, and can

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: you to us? Can you guys get on the same

1554
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: page here. The comment wasn't on Twitter, it was on Instagram.

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Danny, does that really matter? I could not

1556
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: possibly care. And as what care less what social media

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01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: outlet it was used, Danny says. All he said is

1558
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: that it's fake news, not that he will not or

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: won't go there, just that he was wasn't being traded

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: a buffalo. Yeah, we're on the same page here, Danny,

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: with you too. There are reports that he knixed the trade. No, Danny,

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: we're trying to tell you we believe through the work

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: we've done that that's wrong. He didn't knix the trade

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: and never even got that far. That's right. So there

1565
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: you got. We're on the same page. Give me that page.

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: I want to be on the same page. We're on

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: the same page. Hold the page together. Yeah. Also, people

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: from looking around it, would you have wanted Antonio Brown

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: on the bills? And Doug Briggs says, I think if

1570
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: you asked this forty eight hours ago, the voices would

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: be the other way. I'm sad the trade didn't go through,

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: but I think it brings optimism. Bean will do what

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: it takes to improve the team. I think we should

1574
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: be encouraged by the effort. And also Murph for the

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What that's awesome. Also, it's not much. Yes,

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: I got it from Dinah I'm undecided. It would depend

1577
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: on how much the trade would cost, how much Brown

1578
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: would insist on a contract redo, and how the team

1579
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: feels about what he's been saying. He has skills, but

1580
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: not sure if he'd be a good fit. Yeah, there's

1581
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things about the future after the trade

1582
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: that it would be. But you know this, you're getting

1583
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: a guy that can really play if you if you

1584
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: traded for him, you're getting a guy that can really go. Now,

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: all the other stuff, you'd have to trust that the

1586
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: other pieces in place, coaching staff, leadership on the player,

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01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: on the in the locker room would and the you know,

1588
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 1: the the offense and the team and the vibe and

1589
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: the and the you know, the success of the team

1590
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: would keep Antonio Brown happy, maybe make him an even

1591
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: better player. But none of that's known. So you would

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01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: you be happy about it or sad about it? That's

1593
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: the question. Yeah, I'm I'm glad. I'm glad he's not

1594
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill right now. And I understand how good

1595
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: he is. And I'm repeating now what I said two

1596
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: hours ago, I and a half ago. I just would

1597
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: not trust that when things get rough, as they do everywhere,

1598
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: that he might not go south again as he has

1599
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: done with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm totally in the camp

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: where a lot of people lar you know, he's a

1601
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: great player and all that he is, he's he's a diva,

1602
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a he's a hot mess.

1603
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, you think about man having

1604
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: him on the field and put him on the field

1605
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: in the Bills uniform with Josh Allen throwing in the offense,

1606
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: getting better than changes our perspective about what we're gonna

1607
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: do in free agency and in the draft. And he

1608
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: changes everything, Man, because he can play. We got a

1609
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: guy right now who's good and all of a sudden

1610
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: that goes from an empty spot in our roster to

1611
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: a great spot in our roster. By the way he

1612
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: changes the offense. People say he wouldn't want to play

1613
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: in this offense, Antonio Brown is good enough to make

1614
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: you change your offense different focus. Listen, now, do whoever

1615
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: they can to keep him happy, giving him opportunities. So

1616
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: there's all that. So I go, you go from that

1617
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: to you know, I like where we're at anyway, Um,

1618
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: that's hard to do with this, We're right. I like

1619
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: where we're headed I'm saying. I'm like, we're gonna we're

1620
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: gonna get a free agent market next week, we're gonna

1621
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: hit some people in the draft, we're gonna get some

1622
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: new players, and here we're gonna fill out the roster.

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01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm um, I appreciate the effort that Brandon

1624
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: Bean and those guys put. It makes me think like

1625
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: they're on it. Yeah, you know, so I got a

1626
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: lot of confidence that they're going to continue to keep

1627
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: doing stuff like this and make the team better. So

1628
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: in that respect, it made me feel good even though

1629
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: the deal didn't go through. Call here from Tony and Lancaster. Hello, Tony,

1630
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, and you're on the air with this. Hey,

1631
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing today? Great? Good? Well, it's

1632
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: upsetting the gnull that this guy turned the trade down. Here,

1633
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: it's like they're Tony, Tony, Tony. He didn't turn the

1634
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,919
Speaker 1: trade down. The trade went way south way before Antonio

1635
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: Brown ever got involved. The instagrams that he put out

1636
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: last night were in an hour or two, two hours

1637
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: after the deal was done. It's not that he came

1638
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: out and said I won't play in Buffalo. I haven't.

1639
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: We haven't even been told that he was even offered

1640
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: the trade to turn down. I don't even know that

1641
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: he ever would be So don't get caught up in

1642
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: the fact that you think some guy out there is

1643
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: saying I won't play in Buffalo and that's that that

1644
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: did not happen, and it probably wouldn't happen, because what

1645
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: do the Steelers care whether the guy wants to play

1646
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: in Buffalo or not. Well, it's just what I'm worried

1647
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: about is just there's a stigma around our franchise. There

1648
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: is not when you played in that era you played,

1649
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: people wanted to come here, People would line up to

1650
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: come here. And now it's changed because we've gone so

1651
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: long without having a winning attitude and a commitment to win.

1652
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: And I know the ownership is committed to winning. We

1653
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: see what these guys are doing. They are building it right.

1654
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: And you're right. You go from being able to land

1655
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: the guy at a number one, definite number one receiver.

1656
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: There artist some really good free agent tight ends out there,

1657
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: so you could, Tony, you could not be more wrong

1658
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: about You're right about how good Antonio Brown is. But

1659
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: he did not turn down the deal, as Steve pointed out,

1660
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: and it is not a stigma associated with this franchise.

1661
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: There are other teams that have been quired about Antonio Brown.

1662
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't been traded to them either. I would think

1663
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: it has a lot more to do with maybe his

1664
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: contract demands than any stigma in Buffalo or Green Bay

1665
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: or where else he's been linked to at Arizona or

1666
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: whatever Arizona. Here's another thing too. Yeah, And just as

1667
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, Tony, wherever it is you're calling from,

1668
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. Thanks for calling. By

1669
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: the way, I don't want to beat your I don't

1670
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: want to beat you over the head. But here's the thing.

1671
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: You're sitting there in Lancaster saying, Wow, I see what

1672
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: this team's doing. They've got this young quarterback. They look

1673
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: really good. In the last six weeks of the season.

1674
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: They were competitive with no offensive weapons. They have a

1675
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: really good defense. They've got a lot of things to

1676
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: feel good about, and some specific things they can fix

1677
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: with free agency in the draft. So you're sitting there

1678
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: in Lancaster saying that, Tony, there's a lot of players

1679
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: around the NFL that know the same thing that you do.

1680
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: So don't think that. Yeah, and agents as well, so

1681
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: don't think that people are sitting out and wherever it

1682
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: is you're thinking they're sitting out and saying Buffalo's got

1683
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: nothing to offer, because that's not true. Thanks Tony, A

1684
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: call here from and look, I appreciated people that are disappointed.

1685
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: He didn't even come here, right, that's why you put

1686
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: it up there for. But make sure you know what

1687
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: we believe is the answer why that didn't happen. Here

1688
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: is Allan and Buffalo. Hello, Allan, Hey, how's going to buddy? Okay, Buddy,

1689
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing I got all hyped up and and

1690
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: and pretty much answer up. We need to We need

1691
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: to go and win now, Molde. Now, yeah, it's been

1692
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: plenty of years we've been going with out. You got

1693
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get something like that. I understand his

1694
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: attitude and everything else, but we have to make some

1695
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: moves because we need to get and win now. Mold

1696
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Now going free a street. Get as many pieces you

1697
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: need on off the line. Therefore comes draft. You don't

1698
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: have to stretch it so and just still have pieces

1699
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: that have back up the players. Sometimes, if you got

1700
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: the money to spend, you have to spend it. We

1701
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: can't keep saving we have to do something rather than

1702
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or whoever. But we need to make moves

1703
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: now instead to keep being oh, next year, next year,

1704
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: next year. No, then they're saying, oh, you're ruined. Josh

1705
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: happened just the only way to find other guys ready

1706
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: or not we appen. He says, that isn't the fact

1707
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: that they asked about Antonio Brown had trade discussions with

1708
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is as Brandon Bean said that they had

1709
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: talks open, kept talks open, positive discussions. Doesn't that indicate

1710
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: how urgent they are, how much urgent say they feel

1711
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: they get better right away? I think it does. All right,

1712
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: all right, hopefully we make Poles. Thought, yeah, I mean

1713
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: I get you. You're right Alan, And listen, I was

1714
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: gonna ask, is he still Alani's still there? He's gone

1715
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: all right. I was gonna say, I mean, Alan sounds

1716
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: like one of those guys. We've got seventy nine million

1717
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: dollars to spend in free agency. I was gonna ask

1718
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: him how much he wanted to spend, and I'm thinking

1719
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: Alan would say all of it, no matter what, you

1720
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: got to spend it. And that's you know, we've been

1721
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: there before, the team goes out and you here, you know,

1722
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: you blow it on these contract and all of a sudden,

1723
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,959
Speaker 1: you got six really good players, but they're all overpaid,

1724
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: and now you got nobody else that can play with him,

1725
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: or you got four really good players, and and it

1726
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: ends up you're you're back in cap jail. You know

1727
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: you can't you can't improve your team at the places

1728
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: you need to improve them because you can't go out

1729
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: and sign guys because you've overpaid. So I'm I'm all

1730
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: for making moves if they're the right moves. I'm all

1731
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: for spending money, if you spend it wisely, because you

1732
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: can't win if you don't do that, so you can't

1733
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: sustain it if you don't do that. So I'm all

1734
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: for making moves too, like Alan and Coller just said,

1735
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: and they are. But the simple fact of the matter

1736
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: is we've all seen teams who overspend and it doesn't

1737
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: get them a championship, and then they go through four years,

1738
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: five years of cap problems and they can't get any

1739
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: better because they can't get out of their way financially.

1740
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: So I'm all four making moves, but do not just

1741
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: blow the cash they've got to just to blow it

1742
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: William on the line in Plattsburgh, New York. Hello, William,

1743
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Hey, thank you very much. I'm

1744
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 1: god your show in the area. Thank you. I'm glad.

1745
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see Brandon being going out for it,

1746
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think would have been in our locker

1747
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: room and free agency. I'd like to see him go

1748
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: after the center from Denver parodies. Yeah, William, it's a

1749
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: good point because I'll tell you here's the word coming

1750
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: out now. Pittsburgh Seelers just signed Marquise Pouncy, their center,

1751
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: to a long term deal that's eleven million dollars a year,

1752
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: and that he's the highest paid center in the National

1753
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: Football League. You can bet that Paradise the center from

1754
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Denver will be in that neighborhood at least, if not

1755
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: right there or more so. That's what we're looking at.

1756
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: And I've told you this too, Murph. I think those guys,

1757
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: the highest paid guy in the league's making eleven million

1758
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: dollars at that position and that was just signed. To me,

1759
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: that's a really good spot to spend money on for

1760
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: a quality guy who can stand in there and makes

1761
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: everything better around him. I think that's I don't have

1762
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: a problem doing that. Pay the eleven million, whatever, ten million,

1763
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: get him what you can get. Get a guy like

1764
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: that for what you can get him for, and spend

1765
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: the money up front because those guys, those guys to me,

1766
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: tend to earn it. And I know people understand this,

1767
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: but if if you spend a ton of money on

1768
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, make him the highest paid receiver, maybe the

1769
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: highest paid offensive player in the league, you might not

1770
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: have money to pay Matt Parodies or somebody else. That's right,

1771
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: I'll break We're back with more. One Bill's Live from

1772
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back Chamber,

1773
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: PC Cascer One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving up

1774
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: talk with Lorenzo Alexander. We'll get the lowdown on Antonio

1775
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: Brown and what he thinks of that. That's coming up

1776
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes after the top of the hour.

1777
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: Got time for you, time to hear you our Twitter

1778
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: polls about Antonio Brown. Did you want him okay, yes

1779
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: or no? Did you want him on the roster or not?

1780
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: Calls to call here from Anthony and Lancaster. Hello, Anthony,

1781
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: how are you doing great? I just saw two things.

1782
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and make it quick. Um. One, well,

1783
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway from me was, you know, they've been

1784
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: preaching culture for a year and a half now, and

1785
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that going after av was a bad move,

1786
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: but seeing as how he's kind of the king of drama.

1787
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been making the videos and all the

1788
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: social media stuff. So it makes me a question being

1789
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: a little bit only because it's always culture, culture, culture

1790
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: getting rid of players they thought weren't good for the culture.

1791
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: But you're gonna go for a player like that, I

1792
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: agree they should have went for him. He's a talented player.

1793
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: And then obviously, one more point I wanted to make

1794
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: was he he said not to spend all the money.

1795
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, don't spend every dollar because you gotta

1796
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: sign players in a year or two. I understand that,

1797
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: but one playoff appearance is twenty years. How long are

1798
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: you gonna wait for? And that's all I got to say. Yeah,

1799
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I get you, Anthony, And the reason when I say

1800
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: do spend all the mony, I'm just saying, spend whatever

1801
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 1: you want, but spend it wisely. Get get guys that

1802
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: are gonna play for every dollar that you're paying him,

1803
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: and don't don't pay you know, a back up guard

1804
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: twenty five million bucks a year. Right, That's what I'm saying.

1805
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: Don't just don't go out and sign guys for over price.

1806
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Get value signings, is what I'm saying. I'm not saying

1807
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: just not sign anybody who don't spend the money if

1808
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: those guys aren't there, I'm just saying, get the value

1809
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: for the money you spend, because otherwise you're gonna wish

1810
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: you hadn't spend it. You're not gonna have the money

1811
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: to spend it on things you come down the pike

1812
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: that you really need and that kind of thing. So

1813
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: and we've all seen that far too many times as well.

1814
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: So that that's my point, Anthony. I get it. If

1815
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: if somebody's out there that's worth the money, get them.

1816
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. But I just don't know that

1817
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: all those guys are going to be available, And you know,

1818
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see him pay a guy

1819
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: that isn't going to earn it that I don't think

1820
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna earn it. Yeah, I like I guess what

1821
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I like more for me. I think

1822
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: we get more out of the middle of the road

1823
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: for free agents that you sign more because I don't know,

1824
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: they just seem more motivated to play, you know, motivated

1825
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: to hit another home run, contract to play hard and

1826
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: get it. You know. I just you see these guys

1827
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: that hit it. You know, we've seen it here in

1828
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo guys and Mario Williams, Marcel Darius, all these guys,

1829
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: they hit a big home run and they kind of

1830
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: take it out of gear. They don't They're not the

1831
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: same players they were. I don't want those guys on

1832
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: my team, you know, guys want guys like Jordan poyor

1833
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde on my team. There's a call from Jake

1834
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: and Williamsville. Hello Jake, Welcome to the show. Hi guys,

1835
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Hi on the show. Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1836
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I'll try and keep it quick because I know you

1837
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: got Lorenzo coming on in a minute. But I can't

1838
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: agree with the two of you more with being sort

1839
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: of happy that we didn't actually get Antonio Brown, because

1840
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I believe it does show that our management is will

1841
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 1: him to do due diligence on getting good players and

1842
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: then backing out when the price is too high and

1843
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: not going all in and making a mistake. And also

1844
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: i'd be concerned about the fact that, yeah, he is

1845
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: a diva and you've built this team around the strong

1846
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: message of culture. You know, even McDermott has said that

1847
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: culture is more important than talent in certain areas. As

1848
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: he said that, because I thought of out that, Jake,

1849
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: I just can to interrupt you a second. I believe

1850
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: the quote we just played it last week. He said

1851
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: culture is more important than strategy. I don't think he's

1852
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: ever said more important than talent. But finish your point,

1853
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: because I do want to talk about that. When you're done, well, well,

1854
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: then good. Actually I agree with that more Yeah, me too.

1855
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm glad he's I'm glad we ended up

1856
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: not getting him because I was worried about overpaying or

1857
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, having to give him a new contract, and

1858
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: I was worried about the impact you'd have on the

1859
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 1: team culture, which I actually like for the first time

1860
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: in a while. You know, when you have a young

1861
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: core of good talented players and you're looking to make

1862
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: moves and free agency, and like Steve with Sane, I

1863
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: believe that you're often better off not overpaying getting good

1864
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: value players in the middle of the row. And also

1865
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: one last point. I'm sorry, um, I just wanted to know,

1866
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: if not a B, are there any other free agent

1867
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers or who do you guys like him? The draft? Yeah,

1868
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: I've got a list of the wide receivers and you

1869
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: know who I like. Yeah, it's still available. I think

1870
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 1: John Brown. I didn't see anything you texted me. I

1871
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: tell you. Last night, I read something I can't find

1872
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: it on Twitter that the that the Baltimore As we're

1873
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 1: gonna have a big announcement today that they were going

1874
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: to sign all like five of their pending free agents

1875
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: like Terrell Suggs, CJ. Moseley, John Brown, and there's a

1876
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: handful of other guys that they were going to sign

1877
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: back to extensions or two new contracts. But the wide receivers,

1878
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 1: the wide receivers free agents in the National Football League

1879
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: are as they as they go from here, it goes wow,

1880
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: all right, here we go Jared Veldeer, Wait a minute,

1881
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: who are these guys? He's an offensive lignment? Oh yeah,

1882
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: hold on, Oh, I gotta go. Look. The point is, Jake,

1883
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I want to say this too. You're not

1884
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: going to find a better wide receiver on the free

1885
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: agent market than Antonio Brown. You're not no. Are there others?

1886
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: There's none. I think John Brown could do. Yeah, you're

1887
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to trade for one of those guys. Yeah.

1888
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: The other thing is um to your point, Jake about

1889
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I believe, and we played it just last week. The

1890
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: mcderhomer quota is culture Trump's strategy. He never said culture

1891
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Trump's talent. We are not too far removed from A

1892
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: Bill's Football brain Trust here that said talent Trump's everything.

1893
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Now McDermot and Beano never said that the talent Trump's everything.

1894
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: But I do think they have an appreciation. Look, the

1895
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: fact that they got involved in this deal maybe kind

1896
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: of shirking a little bit their commitment to culture a

1897
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: little bit to talk about Antonio Brown indicates that they

1898
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: know how important talent is. And I believe they're probably thinking,

1899
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: we have built our culture up a little bit so

1900
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: that we can take a few chances when it comes

1901
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: to guys who may not have the kind of culture

1902
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: we are accustomed to having here. But they know talent

1903
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: is key. I think I think the moves that they've made,

1904
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: including getting involved with Antonio Brown, indicates that they've never

1905
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: said culture Trump's talent, which is an important distinction, I believe.

1906
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: I'll give you a list, a quick list of ten

1907
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: names that are the top free agent wide receivers in

1908
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: the National Football League. They'll give you the top ten,

1909
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: and there's listed by the amount of money they made

1910
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: last year. That doesn't say anything about the way they

1911
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: played a granted, but this is the way they're listed

1912
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,759
Speaker 1: on the website I'm on. They start with Damarius Thomas,

1913
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,799
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Dante Moncrief, Pierre Garson, Michael Crabtree, Tavon Austin,

1914
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, Ryan Grant, John Brown, and Jermaine Curse. Those

1915
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: are the top ten guys who made the most money

1916
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: last year on their on their deals who are now

1917
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: going to be free agents in the National Football League.

1918
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's anybody on that list

1919
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: who jumped out at you. Maybe somebody who you whose

1920
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: name you recognize, like a Golden Tate or Michael Crabtree

1921
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: or something like that, but you know none of those

1922
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: guys there. Uh, the youngest one on the list. There's

1923
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,759
Speaker 1: a couple on that list that are twenty eight. Everybody

1924
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: else is twenty nine, thirty thirty one, something like that.

1925
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: So there's one Pierre Garson who's thirty three, so they're

1926
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: they're all older guys. But that's who the free agent

1927
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: market you're that's the free agent market you're looking at. Jake,

1928
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for a Carl Lorenzo Alexander gonna join us when

1929
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: we come back. Come on back to One Bill's Life,

1930
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Driving. This is

1931
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills Radio Network Sports Update. The update

1932
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,919
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The Bills and the Steelers discussed

1933
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 1: the trade involving star wide receiver Antonio Brown, but the

1934
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: deal never materialized. Bill's general manager Brandon Mean issued a

1935
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: statement today saying we inquired about Antonio Brown on Tuesday.

1936
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: We had positive discussions, but ultimately it did not make

1937
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 1: sense for either side. Being went on to say we

1938
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: had moved on and our focuses on free agency. The

1939
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,839
Speaker 1: Steelers had previously told teams that Antonio Brown was expected

1940
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: to be traded by today, according to ESPN, but the

1941
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: teams that have shown interest in him, nobody has pulled

1942
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: the trigger yet. Nobody has traded for Antonio Brown, including

1943
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Steelers. Meantime, got busy signing some offensive

1944
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: linemen today. They resigned center Marquise Pouncy and guard Ramone Foster.

1945
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Pouncy will become the NFL's highest paid center eleven million

1946
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: dollars per year over three years, Foster signing for two

1947
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: years worth point two five million dollars. A trade today,

1948
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos agreed to trade quarterback Case Keenam to Washington

1949
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: for a sixth round pick in twenty twenty. The deal

1950
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: will be made next week when the new league year begins.

1951
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: Washington will also get a twenty twenty seventh rounder from Denver.

1952
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 1: Keenham was going to count twenty one million dollars against

1953
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: the Broncos salary cap this year. He's reworked his contract

1954
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: and he has a base salary now of eighteen million.

1955
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers play at Colorado. It's a three o'clock face

1956
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: off tomorrow afternoon. Savers went back and forth in Chicago

1957
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: last night, but came up on the short end of

1958
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: a five four shootout loss to the Blackhawks. Vladimir'sbacca, Brandon Montour, Zachmagojan,

1959
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: and Kyle like Foso scored goals. Bill Polly and longtime

1960
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Bills general manager, a NFL Hall of Famer, has decided

1961
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: to retire from his job at ESPN. He's been the

1962
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:53,839
Speaker 1: NFL front office insider since two twelve seven years. College basketball,

1963
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: do you be Bulls home tonight for their final regular

1964
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: season game home against Bowling Green. It says six o'clock

1965
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,919
Speaker 1: tip off at Alumni Arena, and it's tournament time for Kinnesius.

1966
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: The second seeded Griffs played their first game in the

1967
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: MAC Men's Basketball Championship tonight at nine thirty in Albany.

1968
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: They go up against Manhattan College. That's the update from

1969
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: One Bill Drive. It is Friday. It is John Murphy

1970
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker, and you know what happens on Fridays,

1971
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: low down Lorenzo Alexander happens on Friday. So it's in

1972
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: the car the other day. It might have been on

1973
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: the way to Indian I heard the song and you

1974
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: know it's great. We played by fifteen seconds of it here.

1975
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 1: The entire song is fantastic. By the way, it's unbelievable.

1976
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: It's a great song. I don't know how we got

1977
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 1: that associated. How are you doing, man, I'm doing good,

1978
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: good off season feeling, getting yeah, working out, grinding, out.

1979
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, for people watching the telecast at home. This

1980
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: is like a three X shirt I have on, so

1981
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm not shrinking. The shirt is just big. He came

1982
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: in with it. Yeah, he came into the wrong color shirt. Yeah.

1983
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: But I'm feeling good though, healthy. Going to Miami to

1984
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 1: morrow for a couple of days for union meetings, so

1985
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: it gets enjoy some warm weather. I know it's about

1986
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: eighty five ninety down man right now with the wife

1987
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: and my youngest son is going with us, so things

1988
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: are good. We talked to you late last week in

1989
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: India at the Combine and you had appearances to make

1990
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: in front of some of the young guys there. How

1991
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: did that go? You were talking to them about what

1992
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: life in the NFL. Yeah, were really well, it's really

1993
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: m the perspective of what the union provides players, where

1994
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: the services or we're fighting for their rights because oftentimes

1995
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: when you get in the league, if you don't ever

1996
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: have really an issue of disciplinary issue, whether it's drug

1997
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: or contract detrimental, you never really have a whole lot

1998
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: of interaction with the With the NFL PA Union, you

1999
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: feel like, what are my paintings, dudes, what are they

2000
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: going to and so you kind of explain that the

2001
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: layout of what the union does, and then from a

2002
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: players perspective, you know, how to be a professional, how

2003
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: you become accountable for the business side of football as

2004
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 1: a player. Look, talk a little bit about what you

2005
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 1: make of what's been happening in the last twenty four

2006
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: hours with the bills and the word about ab and

2007
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: what's to take in the locker room. Yeah, I mean

2008
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: it's been crazy. Obviously, there's not a ton of guys around,

2009
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: so it's kind of crazy. I mean, obviously you see

2010
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: that our front office is just trying to be aggressive

2011
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 1: as far as bringing some more talent in here. You know, obviously,

2012
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, being on social media, there's a ton of

2013
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: different opinions or whether you want him, whether you don't

2014
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: want him. I'm obviously anytime you bring a player in

2015
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: there of that high profile and some of the things

2016
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 1: that is coming with them, you know, as a leader

2017
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: in the locker room, my first thing is, okay, so

2018
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: when do I need to talk sit down and talk

2019
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 1: with this guy, because I don't want to have the

2020
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: same issues that popped up in Pittsburgh occur here. Because

2021
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: I feel we're a good, strong, young team that that's

2022
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: going in the right direction, and so you want to

2023
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: make sure he's bringing in and coming in with the

2024
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: right mind frame so that we can continue that process

2025
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: and don't have crazy things that may happen depending on,

2026
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: you know, the trajectory of the season or the ups

2027
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: and downs that a season can bring. We've been asking

2028
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Bills fans today what they think. Do they wish the

2029
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Bills had consummated the deal for Antonio Brown? Let me

2030
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: show you what the results are so for low enjoyed,

2031
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: let you get your take on that. When we have

2032
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Spills fans, which you wanted Antonio Brown on the Buffalo

2033
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: Bill's roster this year, Well, I gotta fire up there.

2034
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: It is sixty one percent say no, thirty nine percent

2035
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: say yes, that's a really good player. What do you

2036
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 1: think what does that tell you that sixty one percent?

2037
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: I think it says that we have a smart fan

2038
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: base and then they're not going to be necessarily just

2039
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: um uh enamored by the talent alone, because that's I mean,

2040
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: everybody wants a talented player like that on the roster, right,

2041
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,799
Speaker 1: but then you have you have to think about everything

2042
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 1: around with that player brings into into that new organization.

2043
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: Was that just an isolated it'sn't it in Pittsburgh because

2044
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 1: of the relationship breakdown in the locker room? Or is

2045
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: that going to come along with him? And then if

2046
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: something similar happens there are we are we gonna have

2047
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 1: to experience the same thing. I said this to Steve

2048
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: right at the top of the show, and I get

2049
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: it if he's got an issue with Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger is

2050
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: not here, won't be anywhere else in the NFL. But um,

2051
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it'd ever be comfortable. I'd

2052
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: always be worried that if when the rough patch hits,

2053
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: and it hits every team right the Bills in thirty one,

2054
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 1: there's that he might do something similar or might act

2055
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 1: out in some other way. I just don't know how

2056
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: to ever trust him not to do that. Right now?

2057
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: What do you following that, Steve? I mean, I know

2058
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 1: you and John have been talking about it. I think

2059
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: there's room for guys like that in your locker room.

2060
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: You got guys, You've got a good, strong locker room.

2061
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: You can bring guys in. And if there's if there's

2062
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: nobody who's like co signing everything he does, you don't

2063
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: have a buddy like like like six guys are always

2064
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna go do whatever they want to do. You know

2065
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: you can. You can absorb warn't two of those guys

2066
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: because listen, you got sixty whatever guys on the roster, now,

2067
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: you got guys on IR, you got guys in the

2068
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: practice squad, all that. So there's a lot of guys

2069
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: in there, and not all of them are great dudes, right,

2070
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: They're not all perfect films for the thing. So you

2071
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: can make those guys work. You can. You can get

2072
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 1: him acclimated. And I think you can probably do that

2073
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 1: with a guy like Antonio if your locker rooms strong enough.

2074
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: But make no mistake, I think there's two sides of this. Certainly,

2075
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: some of this what he has done at the end

2076
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: of this season has been calculated correct. It hasn't been

2077
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: really the guy he is. He's been trying to make

2078
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: a point in doing an interview is ESPN. But there's

2079
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: no question he didn't want he didn't like Pittsburgh, and

2080
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I think he's going I think he's acting a little

2081
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: out of character to get what he wants. That's what

2082
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: I think. So I don't think, right, I don't know

2083
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: him will enough to know if it's that or not.

2084
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 1: But I would I would you know, to your point,

2085
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 1: I would ask, offensively, is our locker room strong enough

2086
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: to absorb in Antonio Brown, Because then you have to

2087
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: look at that. I mean, yes, maybe if you say yellow,

2088
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: Lorenzo's in there, Michael's in there. I'm naming all defensive

2089
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 1: guys who offensively is going to be able to crown.

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01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 1: It's not like we have a Larry Fitzgerald or Tom Brady,

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: a guy of that statue on our offense right now,

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01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,799
Speaker 1: because it's such a young group and trying to develop,

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01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: And then do you set back some of the other

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01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of fenced guys as far as

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01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: what a professional looks like and not. And this doesn't

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01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 1: talk about Antonio Brown the football player, because the way

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01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 1: he works and everything I've heard about him as far

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01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: as grind is great, but some of the antics, you know,

2099
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: young guys see, Okay, well he did X y Z

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01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: and oh now we're trading for him and for him.

2101
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: So but you said last year I couldn't do X

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01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: y Z. So you know where's the disconnect that? Right?

2103
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: If the rules don't apply to him, you got a problem. Right,

2104
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: he's got And that's what a good leader is. The

2105
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: rules apply to you just like they apply to everybody.

2106
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: Even if you even if you could act out and

2107
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna do anything, still follow the rules because it's

2108
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: good for the locker room. And it's that's a great example.

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01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,560
Speaker 1: And you don't know that Antonio Brown might you know,

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01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: do whatever he was And I don't know him well

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01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: enough to vouch or say again, So I'm just saying

2112
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: just from a guy looking from the outside in, and

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01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm being protective of my guys in the

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01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: locker room and where I know this organization is trying

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01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: to go. The culture you're building, Is it a good fit? Um?

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01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Does he bring great talent? Yes? But can the other

2117
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: things that come along with him possibly fracture the team

2118
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 1: or the locker room if if everything isn't going as

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01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: planned or the way he thinks it should be to

2120
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: at this point an interesting tweet here from a listener

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01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:01,560
Speaker 1: James Francis a little bit. So, I don't believe a

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01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: player could come into our team, come onto our team

2123
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: and ruin the culture. You think Lorenzo Alexander and players

2124
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: like him would allow that to happen no way, and

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01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 1: that puts the on us on you too. Well. Yeah,

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01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: I mean obviously I can I want to can talk

2127
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: to AB you know so much. And I would be

2128
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: crazy to think that I have an influence over every player.

2129
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: My influence comes young guys because I'm a fifteen year vet.

2130
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: I've played a long time. I've established myself, but a

2131
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: b may see me more as appear so that that

2132
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: dynamic is a little bit different. And he's a superstar.

2133
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily a superstar household name like he is.

2134
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: And that ego plays a role in whether or not

2135
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: guys are willing to hear and receive you if it's

2136
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 1: something that they don't necessarily agree with or are open

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01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: to hearing when we talk, and I want to I

2138
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: don't want to put any thoughts in your head here

2139
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: when we talk about a misfit for the Bills culture.

2140
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: What do you think of? What is the Bills culture

2141
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: that you guys? What you it's kind of indicated you're

2142
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: trying to protect here. Yeah, I mean, I think you

2143
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: want to bring in smart, hard nosed football players that

2144
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: are team driven, that want to win. And does that

2145
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: mean you exclude talent? No, but talent isn't everything, because

2146
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 1: I've seen guys or teams have eleven Pro Bowlers and

2147
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 1: not make not win a Super Bowl. So I was

2148
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: talking to a young guy out there to day, and

2149
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: I think some of his questions was probably derived out

2150
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: of the whole ab discussion, and I'm saying, you know,

2151
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: I want to win a championship, and your drive, your

2152
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: goals that you set for the season should be in

2153
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: expectation of achieving a Super Bowl. So I want to

2154
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 1: catch fifteen hundred yards or fifteen hundred yards or you know,

2155
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: one hundred balls or whatever that looks like. But at

2156
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: the same time, within a team concept, if we're winning games,

2157
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: you may have to sacrifice some of your goals in

2158
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: order to win. There should never be a time within

2159
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: a team atmosphere that your goals and your achievement should

2160
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: come before the team. So if we're winning and you're

2161
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: getting a hundred yards, you should never be mad and say,

2162
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 1: oh I should have had one hundred and fifty, or

2163
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: you had ten balls caught and you said, oh man,

2164
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: you should have thrown the ball to me two or

2165
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: three more times. And if you ever have that, that

2166
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: can first of all, you saying, well where the balls

2167
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: coming from. It's coming from my teammates. I want his balls.

2168
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: So that creates a hum an issue. Also, now you

2169
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: put an owners on the quarterback, I want you to

2170
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 1: look at me every single time, and that can offer say,

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01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: well what about me over here? I'm open, I'm doing

2172
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: my thing, you know, So it can create um, a

2173
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: discord within a team. Um if you if your goals

2174
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: and priorities are not in the line with ultimately winning

2175
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: the championship, selfishness never flies. No, it never does. But

2176
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: but often guys, they they they they think that equates

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01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: to necessarily be in the best and the greatest ever.

2178
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: But if you if you win and you're in the

2179
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: team frame, you're going to be considered the greatest. I

2180
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: mean you can look at Tom Brady the way he's

2181
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,600
Speaker 1: won this last I mean, nobody's gonna take away that

2182
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 1: he wanted super Bowl and they ran the ball all

2183
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: the way to the championship, you know what I mean,

2184
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter he's considered the winner by handing the

2185
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: ball off. Yeah, you know what, that was the kind

2186
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: That was the message I was trying to you know,

2187
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: let one of our young receivers know you gotta have

2188
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: that mental. It doesn't mean that you can't have drive

2189
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: or passion or goals of one and do it. But

2190
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: at some point, if it calls for you to be

2191
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: sacrificed some of your stats for us to win, then

2192
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: so be it. If we win a games and getting

2193
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: a championship, I'll talk more about this with Lorenzo. Will

2194
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: take some of your phone calls as well. Eighth three

2195
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

2196
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 1: two five fifty, or you can tweet them in about

2197
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown the news this morning and it was a

2198
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: crazy overnight news cycle thing, and the news cropped up

2199
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: and was beaten down within a couple of hours thanks

2200
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: to Twitter. But there were some interesting Twitter exchanges, including

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Speaker 1: one from former veteran NFL quarterback Sage rosen Fells. Twelve

2202
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: years in the league, twelve NFL starts, seven different teams,

2203
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying, man, why you gotta put out

2204
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: all on? And here's his tweet, Sage Rosenfels. In two

2205
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: thousand and two, I was entering the free agent market.

2206
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I along with some friends, ranked the thirty two franchises

2207
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: based on the best places to live long term and

2208
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: organizations to play for. Buffalo ranked number thirty two on

2209
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: my list seventeen years ago, and somehow we've managed to

2210
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: survive without the Sage Rosenfelds. Here here in Buffalo, you're

2211
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: shaking your head. You obviously we're upset about it a

2212
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: little bit. Well, you know, you know, I love the city,

2213
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, playing here, I mean, you know, to be

2214
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: honest and um, you know, coming in I had that

2215
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 1: same perspective, but the outsider, having no really no clue.

2216
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: All you really know about Buffalo outside of growing up

2217
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: knowing about the four Super Bowls is that it's cold

2218
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,679
Speaker 1: and it's snows. Being a California boy, that's not necessarily

2219
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: something I will want to go into now being here,

2220
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 1: meeting the people, I do think the people in the

2221
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: community here are great. The city is underrated. There are

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01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: a lot of great things that come. Here's a ton

2223
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: of concerts, a ton of venues where you can see

2224
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: plays and comedy shows. It's a lot of things. I

2225
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: think people just associate the cold weather like it's just dooming,

2226
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: gloom and nothing that nothing moves up this way. Lorenzo

2227
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: responded on Twitter to Sade Rosenfelds S thought the same,

2228
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: but the people up here are awesome and the city

2229
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: is underrated. Have enjoyed every minute minus that polar forte.

2230
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah it's true. I don't Yeah, right now I get

2231
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: to why is it like these new terms keep I've

2232
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: never heard of a polar voda before. It's like the

2233
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: first one ever? Is it like a like a first serie?

2234
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Too much Weather's too much weather forecasting going on? Just

2235
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: look out your window. Oh it's you don't need other.

2236
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: The point is people are sensitive about Buffalo slams here,

2237
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 1: and you've picked up on that and your years here.

2238
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 1: But I don't think this is a case and Steve

2239
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 1: and I doing our due diligence today. This is more

2240
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 1: of a contract thing you were aching, funny thing, more

2241
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: than it is I would never go to Buffalo. I've

2242
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 1: never said that. I don't think that even got that

2243
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: fire in his mindset that I'm talking about Antonio Brown, Okay, yeah, Buffalo,

2244
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean Sad Rosenfelds. Yeah, probably, I don't know, because

2245
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: it snows in Pittsburgh, obviously, you know, I wouldn't say

2246
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's in the Buffalo um. I think for Antonio, if

2247
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: he didn't want to come here, He's probably thinking, Okay,

2248
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I have a young quarterback of office that's really not

2249
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 1: quite sure who they are, and I want to I

2250
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: want to X on the balls and I want X

2251
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: amount of yards and I don't know if I can

2252
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 1: achieve that in Buffalo. I think that's what it comes

2253
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 1: down too. Obviously, if you trade for him, his country

2254
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna try to work something out that he wants. Um.

2255
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 1: But I think that's probably what he thought first offhand,

2256
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: versus looking at a green Bay you're going you're going

2257
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger to Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, you know what

2258
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's a totally different argument at that point. Yeah,

2259
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 1: And I see both sides of it as well. I mean,

2260
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you, right. It seems to me like the

2261
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: only the bigger opportunities here because there's less around you

2262
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 1: when you go to Green Bay. Aaron Rodgers, I'm pretty

2263
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 1: sure Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna have isn't gonna worry about

2264
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: where he's throwing the ball. He's throwing to the open guy, right,

2265
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna throw it. Yeah, and he has

2266
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: a cloud to say, right, I'm gonna throw to it

2267
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: open guy. And he's got as much cloud as Ben

2268
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger did like that. No, you need a guy, like

2269
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: a young guy who's just trying to do it and

2270
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: just give me some play that's open and to throw it.

2271
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean you want to I don't know, there's both

2272
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: ways to look at it, right Yeah, yeah, you know,

2273
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 1: um certainly that this team is on the verge of change.

2274
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean there we've we've talked about it a lot,

2275
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: and then this is this was like the most optimistic

2276
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: six and ten franchise in the league. I mean they

2277
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: there's really on the uptick. You know, there's a lot

2278
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: of good things that people have people excited. That to

2279
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: me would translate to players who want to come and

2280
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: play and knowing that feeling like this team is about

2281
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: to take a big step forward. There's gonna be a

2282
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity here. I would definitely agree. But then

2283
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 1: that goes back to what I was talking about the

2284
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: young receiver that asked me the question where your priorities.

2285
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: Is it about you know, winning and doing something special

2286
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: or is it about getting you know, your fifteen hundred

2287
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: yards and your fifteen touchdowns and solidifying yourself as the

2288
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 1: greatest of all timing, and you know, honestly, if I'm

2289
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 1: looking at it, I'm gonna go with a Rogers. If

2290
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 1: I had the choice of like two cold weather cities,

2291
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: none against Johns. He's just younger, still developing, and he's

2292
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: got a rod know if he's gonna be right exactly,

2293
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: So you as a receiver, you're going to a guy

2294
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I know who can get me the ball in different

2295
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: places and could do a lot of different things because

2296
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: he has the body of work to do it. Got

2297
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: time to take a few phone calls. People want to

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Speaker 1: talk about this though. Yeah, yeah, I have a couple

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01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: of a couple of minutes left. I gotta go get

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01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: my son. You gotta go get haircuts today. We get

2301
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 1: you out of here. You get a haircut today, my son. Oh,

2302
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: my son, I get shaved. But I see you looking

2303
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: at me. Are you trying to throw shots at it?

2304
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: And I thought, worry about it. Let's go to brand

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01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: on the line, Brad quickly for Lorenzo. Please. Hey, guys,

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01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: I think being the McDermott, I think they're smart enough

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: to realize the words call Tom process. They sound great,

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: but those words ring hollow. With another six and ten

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01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: season at the end, of the year. I think they're

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01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: realized the heat will be on a little bit, especially

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01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: with the fan base, and why not swing for the

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 1: fences a year early to wait for next year. And

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01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: I think that's why they wanted Antonio Brown. I think

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01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 1: immediately he makes your offense a threat. And without him,

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01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 1: let's face at the receiving corps we've had, they're not

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01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 1: a threat. And the guys they brought in, Jordan Matthews,

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01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin, Calein Clay, whoever you want to name, they

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01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: haven't gotten it done. So I think they want to

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01:51:56,040 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: win now this year. Revenue. Possibly Robert to me balled out,

2320
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: started balling out when he got his opportunities. A Jones

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01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: came on strong last year. I mean you look at

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01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: that and say, nobody's really done anything. But you got

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01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: to understand the first eight weeks of the season, you

2324
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: had a quarterback care sale. I mean we had Nate

2325
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,560
Speaker 1: Peterman right, then you had then johh got in and

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01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. Then Derek Gannison came in, and

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01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: then Barkley came in. So of course you're not gonna

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01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: have any continuities, any big numbers. And that's why I

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01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: think I'm so optimistic about moving forward is because those

2330
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: guys got hot as the season went on, and there

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01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: was some continuity between quarterback and receiver and they knew

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01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: who was going to be out there, and they got better.

2333
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. They got better and

2334
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to get better moving forward.

2335
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that people forget too

2336
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: is that there's a perception of expectation with the fan base,

2337
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: like whatever happened last year, but this year, there's they

2338
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,520
Speaker 1: expect the team to be much better. We expect They

2339
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: think the team got their foot on the gas to win.

2340
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 1: They think they're gonna win. Win. Now, listen the coaching

2341
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: staff and the player. I know you did you want

2342
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: to win last year? Right? Yeah, there ain't no difference.

2343
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 1: The pressure is on forays and coaches all the time

2344
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: and every practice we gotta win. Today, we gotta win.

2345
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: So this thing about and I see you can see

2346
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 1: the step back and see the big picture about how

2347
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: long Sean mcburton McDermott has been here, Brandon being is here.

2348
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: They've got this kind of Coaches have a kind of

2349
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: a life cycle in the NFL, and they're kind of

2350
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: midway through theirs or whatever however you want to place

2351
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: them on that cycle. The pressure grows and diminishes with

2352
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: that correct But for the right guys and the guys

2353
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: you do it right, like McDermott and being and you

2354
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: guys like you last fifteen years, the pressure is always on.

2355
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: It always always want to win. And I guess I'm

2356
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: a little optimistic about the whole situation about bringing in

2357
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 1: a high profile player that has some, you know, issues

2358
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: that you can disagree with about how he conducts his business.

2359
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Is because I was in Washington when we brought out

2360
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: was Hanesworth and I saw what that did as a

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01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: young guy, what that did to our team, and so

2362
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm always not good hesitant. Yeah it wasn't good. I mean,

2363
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: and he was a great player, got a lot of

2364
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 1: money and could do anything he wanted to, but it

2365
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't show up because of some character issues that he

2366
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: had in the way he approached. And I know Ab

2367
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: is different in a sense, but just some of the

2368
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: things that he's done it could tear a team apart.

2369
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: And people may not think it, not being in that

2370
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: locker room, but there's a lot of things and a

2371
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: lot of things that we would had to deal with

2372
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 1: it by bringing a b into this locker room. And

2373
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 1: some people may may or may not be aware of, Hey,

2374
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go to the haircut because you

2375
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: have a special event tonight. You're getting the Bell Center

2376
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: Community Hero Award tonight from the Bell Center on the

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01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: West side of Buffalo. You've been affiliated with them for

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01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, right, Yeah, it's been really

2379
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: great to have a partnership with them. It really was

2380
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: birthed out of the players Community to day that we

2381
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: did a couple of years ago, and it's just been

2382
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: a real privilege to work with him. Miss Lucy is

2383
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: awesome over there. She's you know, the day to day,

2384
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, helping those young people, helping the parents, helping

2385
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: those families with resources. And I've just been a gap

2386
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 1: feeling just trying to provide a little extra based on

2387
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 1: what she's done, and they're honoring me. But I think

2388
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: the more important thing that it's a big time fundraiser

2389
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: because trying to buy a building and expand their facilities

2390
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: so they can start more family Can I read you

2391
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: what Lucy wrote to us about you and getting She says,

2392
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: Lorenzo is a leader for both his peers and the

2393
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: children in the Buffalo community, especially at the Bell Center.

2394
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: He motivates them to be better, and the children know

2395
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: him as Lorenzo Alexander, the person, not Lorenzo Alexander, the

2396
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's player. All that being said, those are the

2397
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 1: reasons why they chose Lorenzo as the first recipient for

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01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: the Community Hero Award. That's pretty gratulation, now, I appreciate it.

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: Thank you one of several that you have him all right,

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01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: go get your hair cut. Thank you for coming in

2401
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: straighten us out. Thank you, Lorenzo. We appreciate it. I

2402
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys too. Lorenzo Alexander joining us, Steve and

2403
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: I coming back with more. We'll take more of your

2404
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: phone calls at eight three fifty and toll free one

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01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: eight eight eighty fifty two five fifty One Bill's Live,

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Elth from One Bill's Driving. This is

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01:55:48,760 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. John Murphy,

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01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: Steve Tashier, Lorenzo. I always learned from that guy, Steve,

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01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: just in his perspective, his players perspective, locker room perspective. Um. Look,

2410
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: he was pretty evident that the culture, the threat to

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01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 1: the locker room culture that Antonio Brown might represent, that

2412
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: was a big issue where it was real too. Yeah,

2413
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 1: I thought the threat was real. It's hard to He's

2414
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: seen firsthand how bad locker rooms can go and I

2415
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: have two and it's He's right, mentioned Haynesworth in his

2416
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: tenure at I was watching a team that was that

2417
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: was had a nickname for being a bad locker and

2418
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: is the bickering Bills back in eighty nine, it was

2419
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 1: it's a bad scene culture. It's bad scene and it

2420
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to win like that. So and for something

2421
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: for a guy like Lorenzo has been part of building

2422
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 1: it and get it to the point where it is

2423
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: a difference maker for the team. Yeah, you don't want

2424
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 1: to risk it. And I get it. I get his concern.

2425
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: It's our twitter poll, it's the topic of the day.

2426
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: Would you have wanted Antonio Brown on the Buffalo Bills

2427
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet from CW five to eight, I

2428
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: absolutely wanted a b We want to win, right, get

2429
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: players who are best at their position. Anyone saying they

2430
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't want him, sour grapes, we get him, they'd be saying, well,

2431
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Let's just hope he doesn't have too

2432
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: much him an attitude. You're probably right. Yeah, if the

2433
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: bills said executed the trade, people probably would have said,

2434
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about what went on there

2435
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. But he's a great player. That's that's fair. Yeah,

2436
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that I agree with anyone saying they

2437
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: didn't want him. Sour grapes. I'm not that way, sour

2438
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: grapes because yeah, because he you know, he's not here, right, No,

2439
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't because I don't think he likes our town.

2440
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 1: But that's not true. That's not true. I mean, yeah,

2441
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: I think everybody's kind of in the same spot. It's

2442
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it kind of looks he's an attractive

2443
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: he's an attractive player. You'd like to see him on here,

2444
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:02,000
Speaker 1: but gosh, I don't know, you know, it's just I

2445
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to put up with the drama.

2446
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: But by the way, I don't know that everybody's in

2447
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 1: the same spot. Sixty one percent of respondents to our

2448
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Twitter poll say they would not want him here forty percent.

2449
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: Thirty nine percent said they would. I think it's fairly

2450
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: even split. Let's take a call here, Robert in Lockboart, Hello, Robert,

2451
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air, Robert, Are you there

2452
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: from Lockport? How about now? Robert? Are you there? All right? Hey?

2453
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I think that being a Buffalo Bill fan for the

2454
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 1: last twenty thirty years, I think we deserve to be

2455
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: able to put a winning team on the field, a

2456
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 1: team that can compete, and for the last twenty years

2457
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: we hadn't having a team to compete. Yes, he bringed

2458
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: drama to the locker room, but he also proven winner.

2459
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: We need somebody to set a fire on the Buffalo

2460
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: Bills because the team that we're sitting out there now,

2461
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: they compete for the first five minutes. After that, it's over.

2462
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: So what do you think about that? I like some

2463
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 1: example of that, if you wouldn't please Robert the five

2464
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: minute and then it's over. Okay for the first Okay,

2465
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: we the Buffalo Bills get the football, the first drive stallout,

2466
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: second drive stall out, and that's it. The team is

2467
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: basically over from there because our defense, now I'll take

2468
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 1: nothing from our defense. Our defense is a standing up defense.

2469
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: But we have to have an offense, someone that can

2470
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: move the ball, put some points on the board and

2471
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback we have now, the little kid from Wyoming.

2472
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: Of course, he's not accurate right now. He's still working.

2473
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: And for him to have a receiver like Antonio Brown,

2474
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be perfectly accurate. He put the

2475
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: ball out there, he'll go get it. Okay, anything on that,

2476
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Steve Robert, I get you. I get you. It's the

2477
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: team's got to play better. Uh, Antonio Brown could help him,

2478
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: and you did. You could not care less if he's

2479
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 1: a bad guy. You want to get good players on

2480
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: the team and expect him to play well. No matter what.

2481
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Okay, let's go to

2482
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Sean in Dallas. Sean, welcome to the show. You're on

2483
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 1: the air with us. Hey, guys, how are you doing that? Okay? Good? Hey,

2484
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 1: I think Steve nailed it on the head. I'm gonna

2485
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: tell you. When I went to bed last night with

2486
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the WEBN thirty the news came on, I literally was shocked.

2487
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: What the Bills are going after Antonio Brown? And then

2488
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 1: five minutes later I was thinking, wow, I mean this

2489
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: could be awesome. You know, they're showing a highlight reel

2490
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,840
Speaker 1: of Antonio Brown on the NFL network, and I'm watching

2491
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 1: all these plays, I'm thinking that that right there would

2492
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 1: bring this offense up immediately. You get a center in

2493
02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 1: free agency, and now you're I'm thinking, holy cow. I mean,

2494
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: we went from a bottom dweller all of a sudden,

2495
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: the possibilities are in my head. Okay, that's the bead.

2496
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Wake up this morning and I hear that he's not

2497
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 1: on the team. After I'm thinking, now, I'm thinking, you

2498
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 1: know what, from what I've seen and heard of him,

2499
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's not on the team, going from the

2500
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: shock surprise. But I think Steve you said it the best.

2501
02:00:56,200 --> 02:01:00,120
Speaker 1: I think Ian Rapaport was used at some level. I

2502
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: kind of wonder if really and truly being was really

2503
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: close to the deal. He got sold out on a

2504
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 1: national TV that they didn't make the deal happen, and

2505
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 1: so now he's got to go make a statement to

2506
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: kind of let people know why he didn't let the

2507
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: deal happen without really and truly making any enemies out

2508
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: of the deal. I think you just had a cover

2509
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 1: of bait here, and really and truly there probably was

2510
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: not a deal to be made. I just that's why

2511
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think, well, yeah, I think you finally

2512
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 1: got to a John. That's my belief. I'm not going

2513
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 1: to speak for Steve here, but I don't think they

2514
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: were as close as was originally reported. I know they

2515
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: did not have a deal in place with Pittsburgh. They

2516
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 1: talked about it, and I'm certain that they had very

2517
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: preliminary talks about a contract with Antonio Brown that they

2518
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: didn't feel like we're gonna be productive. So I think

2519
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 1: you finally got to the truth of the manage the bill.

2520
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that the Bills ever got close

2521
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: to either end of the deal, either the deal with

2522
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers or the deal with Antonio Brown. And

2523
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 1: while they inquired and they were serious about it, neither

2524
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 1: of those two things lined up. And they said, you know,

2525
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 1: if things change, you can call us back. And then

2526
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 1: it comes out that what came out and all this

2527
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 1: other stuff that came out, you know, and for the

2528
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 1: Bills out, none of it seems relevant because they weren't

2529
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 1: ever as close as it was. So that's that's the

2530
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 1: way I think it transpired. And I'm right with you, Sean.

2531
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: I just and the Steelers are trying to drum, you know,

2532
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 1: use whatever tactics they could to drum up business and

2533
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 1: interest and maybe some urgency to get a deal done

2534
02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 1: with anybody, And it just came out that nobody's really

2535
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: ready to do it. Nobody's really ready to nobody's really

2536
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 1: ready to make a deal for Antonio Brown right now.

2537
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 1: And it has to do with the compensation for the

2538
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: Steelers and his contract. That's I think that's the bottom line.

2539
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 1: So thanks for the call, Sean. I wonder why, I wonder.

2540
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're saying about this in Pittsburgh. And

2541
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I wonder why I didn't understand

2542
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: why they would put a deadline of today. They've got

2543
02:02:57,400 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: the real deadline next week when they owe that guess

2544
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: money a week from Sunday. But I wonder what they're

2545
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 1: saying about this in Pittsburgh. I would think they're I

2546
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: would think they'd almost be panic among Steelers fans. Are

2547
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: we gonna are we gonna be forced to keep this guy?

2548
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: And maybe he won't play? Can he play again with

2549
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 1: Ben Ross? Is a repeat of the Levion Bell? Or

2550
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 1: he just sits and doesn't get paid? You know? Yeah,

2551
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the amazing part about it. He

2552
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: may not get traded and he may refuse to play. Now,

2553
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 1: there's some people inside the Pittsburgh building that will tell you,

2554
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: and this is maybe they were spinning it positive. But

2555
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 1: during the last part of the regular season, when I

2556
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: actually was in Pittsburgh in week seventeen and I was

2557
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: standing ten, ten or fifteen feet away from Antonio Brown

2558
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: on the sidelines when he was dressed in street clothes,

2559
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: I had people in their organization and he was saying

2560
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 1: and they say, well, Levion, I mean Antonio Brown may

2561
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: just not play, he may just stay out. And people

2562
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 1: in the organization were laughing at it because they they

2563
02:03:55,520 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 1: think that Antonio Brown can't stay away. He loves to

2564
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 1: play too much. He loves to work hard too much.

2565
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: He's always got to be the first guy on the

2566
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:06,840
Speaker 1: practice field, the first guy off the practice field. It's

2567
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 1: a it's a question of him. It's what he does.

2568
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: They were, people in the organization were laughing because they

2569
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stay away. He can't do it. He can't

2570
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 1: stay away. He's always in this building. So they think

2571
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: it's posturing on his part. So I think that there's

2572
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 1: which made me think maybe all this this whole charade

2573
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:31,480
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown was something other than what he was

2574
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 1: purporting it to be, because you know, it's all about

2575
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 1: him and Ben not getting along. I guess, I mean,

2576
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 1: where do you go? Where do you go if you

2577
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: don't want to play with the guy? Is he gonna

2578
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 1: sit at home if the Steelers don't trade him. Is

2579
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna sit there and say I'm not not gonna play.

2580
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in the organizations think he

2581
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 1: won't do that. He'll come in and he'll play, and

2582
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be toxic, but they'll have Antonio Brown

2583
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: on the field. Let's they call here from Scott in Tanawana. Hello, Scott, Hey,

2584
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 1: good afternoon, gentlemen. Look, I heard Steve say about five

2585
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 1: minutes ago that he he wasn't sure he wanted to

2586
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 1: deal with the drama. And it's pretty hit the critical

2587
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: coming from Steve since he was on one of the

2588
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 1: most drama teams in Buffalo Bill's history. But it was

2589
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: okay because we went to four Super Bowls and Steve

2590
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 1: was part of the glory. And my second point is

2591
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 1: if we had signed Antonio Brown and he was a

2592
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill today, we would be having a parade down

2593
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 1: Delaware Avenue but because we didn't sign him, everybody's trying

2594
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 1: to say he's no good. You know it, Scott, I'm

2595
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 1: going to disagree with you on part two. I don't

2596
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 1: think that's the case. We got again, what is our

2597
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: twitter pole worth? But almost two thirds of responding sixty

2598
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: one percent say they're glan and look, I mean, I

2599
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: don't have skin in the game. Really, I'm if we

2600
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: if the Bills had executed this trade, I would have

2601
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: doubts about Antonio Brown as a Buffalo Bill. I'd say that,

2602
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 1: and that's not our grapes. I believe that. Let's see

2603
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 1: you talk about the bickering Bills, and I will point

2604
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 1: out that the bickering Bills were a full year, a

2605
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: full season before you started going to say, yeah, the

2606
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 1: bickering Bills were for nineteen eighty nine, and we didn't

2607
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl then. And I don't want to.

2608
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm hYP hypocritical. I own up

2609
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: to it. I'm not saying one thing and doing another.

2610
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't that nineteen eighty nine was

2611
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 1: the least fun I ever had playing pro football. It

2612
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: was a bad year as a toxic atmosphere in the

2613
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 1: locker room and when it and it changed. It changed

2614
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks of that season, right at

2615
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year. It was the year that

2616
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: we went to Cleveland and the Ronnie Harmon had had

2617
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: dropped that ball in the end zone at the end

2618
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Wildcard game. That was a very different

2619
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: football team at the end of nineteen eighty nine. Then

2620
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:45,680
Speaker 1: it was during the drama of the season. So if

2621
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 1: you're saying I'm hypocritical, I don't want to deal with

2622
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,760
Speaker 1: the drama, I don't want to. I'm not being hypocritical.

2623
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm being truthful. And the fact that I was experienced it,

2624
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: I know how toxic it is. You don't want to

2625
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 1: be in that locker room. You don't want to have that,

2626
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 1: and you're not going to have success doing it. Virtually,

2627
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: this same guys who were the bickering Bills in large measure,

2628
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl the next year. They were

2629
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 1: immensely talented. They were so talented that even in a

2630
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 1: toxic environment, they made it to the Wildcard round. That's

2631
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 1: how talented they were. But when the culture came around

2632
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 1: and they started being a really close knit group, they

2633
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 1: went to four straight super Bowls and it's never been

2634
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 1: done before or since. So I mean, you're telling me

2635
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 1: that I'm being hypocritical because I don't want the drama.

2636
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 1: I was on a team that was successful, Now I wasn't.

2637
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I was on a really talented team who couldn't get

2638
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 1: out of their own way and got put out of

2639
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs. It was so toxic.

2640
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: And that same group, when they got it together and

2641
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: had a good culture and had a great locker room,

2642
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 1: went to four straight super Bowls. So that's the truth

2643
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, that's I mean, I get what

2644
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: you're saying, but you don't want drama in your locker

2645
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 1: room because you'll be less productive at every level than

2646
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 1: you would be if you had a good, solid locker room.

2647
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. Just been my experience,

2648
02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 1: and you can talk to anybody else will say the

2649
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 1: same thing. For one more short call. This is Tim

2650
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 1: in Marilla. Hello, Tim, how are you doing good? I

2651
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 1: just got a couple of points I'd like to make

2652
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: out here. I agree with the sixty one percent um.

2653
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: The man's talented, but I do believe he would be

2654
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 1: toxic in the locker room. And I don't think as

2655
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 1: a young team that we need that in our locker room. Um.

2656
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 1: And that's just my cake on it. But the second

2657
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,440
Speaker 1: point I'd like I'd like to make is I would

2658
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 1: have been much more happy if they have said they

2659
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: were signing h Denver center. You look at Jim Kelly,

2660
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: he had Chent Hall, and to me, that offensive line

2661
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 1: that's Kelly had made everyone around them better. And and

2662
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 1: I really believe that that's that would be a step

2663
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 1: up to go with with an offensive lineman that's talented

2664
02:08:55,560 --> 02:09:00,080
Speaker 1: like he is. And and I would really love to

2665
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 1: see them get a hold of this guy happen. I

2666
02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 1: think so too, And I'll agree with you, Tim. I

2667
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 1: think one thing about this free agent season that we're

2668
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 1: about to enter as Bills fans, and this bill this

2669
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 1: place to where the Bills have finally kind of painstakingly

2670
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: gotten themselves too, where they've got a lot of cap

2671
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: money and they've got some specific things they want to

2672
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 1: get and a lot of draft picks. I mean, this

2673
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 1: is a very important offseason for him. I think the

2674
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 1: one thing I like about it and what excites me

2675
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 1: is the fact that I would love to see him

2676
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 1: get guys like you're saying I don't care about marquee names.

2677
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 1: I care about really good players who maybe none of

2678
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 1: us have heard of. Like believe me, Micah Hyde and

2679
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 1: Jordan POI were not high on my level of consciousness

2680
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 1: when they signed them three years ago. But I want

2681
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 1: guys like that. I want offensive linemen like that I've

2682
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 1: never heard of, and all of a sudden they come

2683
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 1: to Buffalo and they play for ten years and you,

2684
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, don't know how you ever got along without him.

2685
02:09:57,600 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of guys I want. I want

2686
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 1: them to sign. I don't really care if it's Antonio

2687
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 1: Brown or somebody with a big name like that. I

2688
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 1: want somebody who's gonna help me and night, And I

2689
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 1: agree with Tim. It starts with the offensive line. That's

2690
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 1: where they need to get going. I just want to

2691
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:13,560
Speaker 1: say this, and I started out to saying this. Among

2692
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 1: the many things that I take from the episode today

2693
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 1: when Antonio Brown is the fact that they're ready to

2694
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: rock here. They're ready to make moves right, I mean,

2695
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: they've already started. They had some pretty good names in

2696
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 1: here this week in free agency, guys who just hit

2697
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 1: the open market. The fact that they're in the market

2698
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:33,040
Speaker 1: to make a trade perhaps for the best receiver in

2699
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,840
Speaker 1: the game. To me, the signal is here, we go.

2700
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun I really believe fun to

2701
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,080
Speaker 1: think about. All Right, a break, We're coming back One

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02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

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02:10:43,400 --> 02:11:00,200
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Speaker 1: producer analyst for an NFL matchup on the ESPN. We

2709
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: ask him, you know, in light of all the Antonio

2710
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 1: Brown stuff today, what type of receiver do the Buffalo

2711
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 1: Bills need. Here's what he said. I think they need

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Speaker 1: a big X, a guy that can win one on

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Speaker 1: one in today's NFL Murph, I think that you need

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Speaker 1: that receiver who lines up to the boundary, the signal

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Speaker 1: receiver to the boundary. He he gets one on one

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Speaker 1: coverage because to today's NFL, most defenses, even if their

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Speaker 1: zone based, will match up and lock the X. And

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Speaker 1: you need an X receiver who can win. If you

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Speaker 1: can get that guy, then someone like Robert Foster becomes

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Speaker 1: a very valuable player as your Z, the guy you

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Speaker 1: can move, the guy who can get vertical. But Foster

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Speaker 1: is not an X. They need a big actor. Greig

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Speaker 1: Cosell on the type of receiver of the Bills need.

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Speaker 1: We also had a good conversation earlier this hour Lorenzo Alexander,

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Speaker 1: Bills linebacker. We asked him about Antonio Brown and what

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Speaker 1: it takes to preserve the kind of culture of the

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Speaker 1: Bills have been pretty methodical about building in their locker

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Speaker 1: room to date. Here's what Lorenzo said. I think you

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Speaker 1: want to bring in smart, hard nosed football players that

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Speaker 1: are team driven, that want to win. And does that

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Speaker 1: mean you exclue talent. No, But talent isn't everything, because

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Speaker 1: I've seen guys or teams have eleven Pro Bowlers and

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Speaker 1: not make not win a Super Bowl. So I was

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Speaker 1: talking to a young guy out there the day and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, I want to win a championship,

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Speaker 1: and your drive, your goals that you set for the

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Speaker 1: season should be in expectation of achieving a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I want to catch fifteen hundred yards or fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred yards or you know, one hundred balls or whatever

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Speaker 1: that looks like. But at the same time, within a

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Speaker 1: team concept, if we winning games, you may have to

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Speaker 1: sacrifice some of your goals in order to win. There

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Speaker 1: should never be a time within a team atmosphere that

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Speaker 1: your goal and your achievements should come before the team.

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Speaker 1: There you go, ill run to Alexander and the Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown thing. Steve, you just retweeted Albert Briers posts that

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Speaker 1: he just put up I am MQB and he seems

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Speaker 1: that we just started. It seems that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff we've talked about. Money

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Speaker 1: is maybe the determining factor on why this trade wasn't made,

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Speaker 1: and it also gets down to the fact that how

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Speaker 1: close they really never were the deal either end. So

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Speaker 1: it was certainly there were inquiries and conversations had, but

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Speaker 1: you know it was it was never to be. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend, everybody. We'll be back on Monday. We

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Speaker 1: hope to talk to you then. Production assistants George Blast,

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