1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody, Thanks for joining us from all across 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: the country, and we have a few things that tie 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: together here, Mister Clay, I want to just walk us 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: through this for a moment. This is interesting because one 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: of our ongoing questions here is what is really the 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: endgame of all this Biden document stuff? Right? And I 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: don't want to dive into that back and forth right now, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it talking about the first 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: hour because something doesn't add up here. Is it just 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: sloppiness from Biden and or is it the system pushing 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Biden aside. There's a lot of things here that we 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: still are trying to figure out. But one part of 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: this is who would take over, right who would be 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: in the mix and the running. We've talked about Kamala 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Harris obviously because she's the vice president, the most obvious, 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: although in the poll that I put out on Twitter, 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of responses, solid sixty plus percent think 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: that Biden's if Biden goes, it's in favor of Gavin Newsom, 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: which is interesting. I mean that is then likely to 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: be a floor. I could say this, I think with 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: a high level of confidence that the twenty twenty four elections, 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: should Gavin Newsom be the Democrat nominee, would be a 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: California versus Florida throwdown. In some capacity, Florida will be 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: in there. It's one way or another. Should have buck 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: right like. Ultimately, those are the two sides of our 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: great national debate over the past several years. I agree. 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually was somebody who really I wanted 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders to be the Democrat nominee in the past, 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: because I think that what you get with Bernie Sanders 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: is more of a distillation of liberalism for Democrats today 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: without the veneer of just the sort of corporate interests 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: in the self dealing at the same level, which is 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: what you get would say a Hillary Clinton. So I 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: think if you want to have a real throwdown of 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: belief systems and governing systems, notice how I say Florida, 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of you would agree it's 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna be Florida represented in some capacity on the GOP 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: side that I think you'd get ten to one odds 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: in favor of Right now, whether it's Trump or De Santis, 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be one of them. And you know 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: you can have your pickos to which one you think 44 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: it'll be. California. That with Newsom is interesting. I bring 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: it up though, because very interesting. You might have seen 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: this clay Over the weekend you had the mayor of 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: New York City, Eric Adams, went down to El Paso, Texas. Now, 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: as somebody who has made the journey from New York 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: to El Paso in the past, it's not a quick flight, 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: not an easy one to do. So there was a 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: reason for this, and I think a lot of people 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: are starting to see this as a possible And I 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: would ask you if you think that this is a 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: moment where Adams is trying to step out into the 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: national on the national stage at a moment of weakness 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: for Biden. Are these things all tied together? And then 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I want to dive in with you to what the 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: actual border realities are and how it affects New York. 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: But first, is Eric Adams testing the waters a little 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: bit here? It's it's such a good question, and I'm 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: pausing for a moment because I don't know that Eric 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Adams has the political cashet to be making a strong 63 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: strategic play like this intentionally. Does that make sense? Like 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: I believe that there are politicians like Gavin Newsom showing 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: up at the White House and rolling up his sleeves 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: wacically he's like, I've got plenty of headroom and this 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and this. You know, often when Joe I mean when 68 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you visit the White House when Joe Biden isn't there, 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: it is among the most disrespectful things that I have 70 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: ever seen a politician do. Right, um, and and then 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: you'd meet the media and everything else. Like that was 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: not by accident. That was Gavin Newsom being a cold Yes, yes, uh. 73 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I feel like Eric Adams is a guy who on 74 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: some level recognizes that Democrats have gone insane. Like I 75 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: feel like this Buck, if you, me and Eric Adams 76 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: sat down at a table in in New York City, 77 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: probably late at night, because he seems to be liked 78 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: to get out late at night. Yes, but if we 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: sat down a table with him, I feel like we'd 80 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: probably like him, right because I think he would say 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: many things that we would agree with. You know, you 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: got to get the crime down in New York City. 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: This idea of all of these immigrants coming into the 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: the city of New York that he clearly loves is unacceptable. 85 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: So I think he's diagnosing that there are problems. I'm 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: not sure that he's diagnosing that there are problems and 87 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: putting forth solutions. Does that make sense? Like so in 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: terms of whether it's calculated going to El Paso to 89 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: recognize that there is an issue, there is a calculated decision. 90 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: Is it calculated in the sense of I have a 91 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: solution to this? I don't know. I would love it 92 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: if he challenged Joe Biden, because I do think that 93 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: would be fascinating to see how the political aspects of 94 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: it would play out. I'm not sure that he's planning it, 95 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So a few things that I 96 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: think come into this. So that's on the political side. 97 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: Then back to the border component of this, which is 98 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: still a huge story. That is and I think this 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: is a reminder for everybody that the US Mexico and border. 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I think so much of the mentality that you see 101 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: in the media about it is, yeah, this is a 102 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: thing that Texas and Arizona and you know, and to 103 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: a lesser extent, California have to deal with. But you know, 104 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there a few other states along the 105 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: border that you could throw in there, but it actually 106 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: affects New York City very directly. The greatest concentration of 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants in the United States is New York City. 108 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is that when when Eric Adams made 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: this visit down to the border, some of the migrants 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: we're saying to him, Oh, well, you're like the best 111 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: for taking in illegal migrants. I don't mean the best 112 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: isn't like the best guy, Oh maybe, but New York 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: gives the best benefits. New York is a place that 114 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: has been so so welcoming in this sense. And Eric Adams, meanwhile, 115 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: let's give everybody's sense of this is saying there is 116 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: no more room for migrants. This needs to stop. His 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: city cannot handle this. Now. This is fascinating, and I think, 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: in part Clay to your point about how he does 119 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: have us streak of the sensible for a democrat, um, 120 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: he does have some aspects of policy that I think 121 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: are zeering toward common sense. He has not been a 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: good mayor so far of New York, but he hasn't 123 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: been actively destroying the city, which is I think. But 124 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Bill de Blasio did. Bill de Blasio was like, sorry, 125 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: if we have to ruin this place, as long as 126 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: there's more social justice, and I feel good about myself 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: when I'm smoking lots of weed. By the way, that's 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: de Blasio well known to be a big, big weed smoker. Um, 129 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: there's true story. Actually there are. There are guys I 130 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: knew people that were knew I knew people that knew 131 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: people on his detail and de Blasio was a fan 132 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: of smoking smoking the weed anyway. Um, I think that 133 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Adams recognizes that when you see there's more money, and 134 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: this goes right to the heart of the illegal immigration issue. 135 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: There is more money going to house illegal migrants right 136 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: now than money that is going toward um New Yorkers 137 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: that lackshall are altogether, so effectively, they're starting to spend 138 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: more money on the people who aren't even supposed to 139 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: be the country in the first place. This is beginning 140 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: to happen than the people who are having a really 141 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: hard time, who are New Yorkers of all backgrounds, but yes, 142 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: in New York disproportionately for talking to people who lack housing, 143 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: they're black and Hispanic New Yorkers. So people are looking 144 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: at us as saying, what are the priorities here? Well, Buck, 145 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm still kind of caught up on the politics of it, 146 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and I think he might be hitting something that's really fascinating. 147 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: If everybody else is clear in the deck for Joe 148 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Biden and they're basically saying Biden's going to be the guy, 149 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: we're not challenging him. What if Eric Adams was the 150 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: only Democrat to run against him, And how would Eric 151 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: Adams play they're trying to redo the calendar. How would 152 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: Eric Adams play in South Carolina? You got a black 153 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: guy that would connect, I think with a lot of 154 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: black South Carolinians in many of the things that he 155 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: would be saying versus James Clyburne, who is a very 156 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: popular and powerful black politician who many of you will remember, 157 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: basically said Joe Biden is my guy, and that got 158 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden the nomination and then the presidency. And if 159 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm sitting back and looking at this in a calculated fashion, 160 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: and again I don't know who advises Eric Adams and 161 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: what his team would look like, but if everybody else 162 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: is clear in the deck, and Eric Adams recognizes that 163 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has some common sense vulnerabilities that he is 164 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: a black former police captain who is now the mayor 165 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of the biggest city in the United States. And Buck, 166 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I would say, the murder rate went down in New 167 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: York City in twenty twenty two. So if you're Eric 168 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Adams and you're trying to think of a big, strong 169 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: argument that you could make, you could say, Hey, I 170 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: became mayor of New York and we reversed the murder 171 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: rate climb. Now it's still far too high, and it's 172 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: up massively since twenty nineteen. But you know what, I'm 173 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: starting to see the political calculus that could be running 174 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: through his head. And look, you don't win necessarily, but 175 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: if you challenge Joe Biden and make yourself a major 176 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: national figure, can you beat Kamala Harris in twenty eight? 177 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: I think he's probably better at than Kamala in twenty eight. Yeah, 178 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: by the way, I love this idea. Now, Buck bild 179 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: de Blasio claims, not just because I've kind of vixated 180 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: on this for a second, that he has he has 181 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: not smoked weed since college. I do not believe him. Okay, 182 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: that's because there are people asking him all the time, 183 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: because there have been rumors about this, and I've heard 184 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: from people who have heard from people that if he's 185 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: spend a time around the guy, I don't know, but 186 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: he claims to set the record straight that that does 187 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: not happen. But I've heard from people think I'm actually 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: surprised that he would deny it just because I would 189 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: have hurt him in Democrat politics in New York City 190 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: if he admitted that he liked It's interesting, well, because 191 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't for he wasn't as full on for legalization 192 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: as I think some people anticipated that he that he 193 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: would be. But anyway, just to set the record straight, 194 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: he says that he didn't even though I've heard from 195 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: people who would know that he does anyway, but who knows. 196 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Um As for Eric Adams and his 197 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: presidential aspirations, if they exist, I think that that's going 198 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: to be a case where it will all come down 199 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: to the to the record in New York City in 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. And you know, sorry, but isn't 201 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: it you lived in New York City for a long time. 202 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it also incredibly elevating if he were the only 203 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: guy to run against Biden? I mean, he doesn't seem 204 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: like he's a part of the cool kids club where 205 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: everybody would be like, oh, you know, in DC, this 206 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: is Joe Biden's time, don't step on his toes. Seems 207 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: like he might be willing to do that. Yeah, I mean, 208 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting choice. If you're gonna see 209 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: some kind of a an open primary situation where you 210 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of different candidates who are at least 211 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: vying behind closed doors to take over from Biden, I 212 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: think you'd have to have if you're not gonna have 213 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Kamala as just the person stepping in, and I think 214 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: you would, But if you're gonna have an open primary 215 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: and not just a coronation for Kamala, you could well 216 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: have Eric Adams get involved. But but I also on 217 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: just the immigration side of this again for a second, 218 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: that he goes down there, because right now the House 219 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Republicans are considering a vote of impeachment against Mayorcas, and 220 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: I get it, and I'm all for holding these individuals accountable, 221 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: but you're going to impeae somebody who's gonna get replaced 222 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: if even he was removed, which is not going to happen, 223 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: but if he were removed from office, you get replaced 224 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: with somebody who does the bidding of the machine just 225 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: the same way. It isn't really as long as Joe 226 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Biden gets to a point the head of DHS. Now 227 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: you could say, well he lied or he's you know, 228 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: he's been particularly bad, okay, but the policy doesn't change 229 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: if Mayorcas goes. And I just think it's interesting that 230 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Eric Adams, because he has to look at city budgets 231 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: and the reality of New York, which I think has 232 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a huge budget train coming down the tracks. They got 233 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: problems with where this budget is heading. As a lot 234 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: of people have fled New York City in particular, there's 235 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: a huge echo you're seeing. One of the big debates 236 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: about illegal immigration has been does this cost taxpayers a 237 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of additional money? Are Is there a drain on 238 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: resources that you will feel in your city or in 239 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: your state from illegal immigration. The answer must be yes, 240 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: because the Democrat mayor of New York City is saying, 241 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: no more room for migrants, we can't afford them. It's 242 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: not only that bucket's the conjunction of too many migrants 243 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: with all of the high taxpayers of New York City 244 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: fleeing because Kathy Hokel said, why don't you guys just 245 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: all move to Florida. 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Together they're breathing sanity 272 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: into an insane world. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck 273 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We're about to be joined by our friends, 274 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson. But he went on Meet the Press 275 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I think you guys are going 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: to love this because he didn't back down and he 277 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: got the host there really fired up. Let's listen to 278 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: a couple of clips here so you have an idea 279 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: when we're asking Ron Johnson about this in a few minutes. 280 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Have you been interviewed by the FBI or the Special 281 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Counsel's Office investigating the Alternative elector No, there's nothing to 282 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: interview me about. I've played no role in at whatsoever. 283 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: This has been a complete smear job against me. The 284 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: January should say, is you dabbled in so much of this? 285 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Do you understand why somebody might have thought you were 286 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: willing to go along with this stent. I did not 287 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: dabble in very much of this. It's just false. I 288 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty examining the irregulars the twenty twenty election. What 289 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: you ought to do is go back and read my 290 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: opening statement, and that pretty well lays out exactly what 291 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: I thought about the twenty twenty election. But the news 292 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: media never does that. They smear me, they lie about me, 293 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: they make these things up. All right. Then I want 294 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: to play this one too, because I think this tells 295 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: on Chuck Todd far more this is meet the Press 296 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: than it tells on Ron Johnson. Chuck Todd tries to 297 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: lecture him about needing to go back into his partisan 298 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: cable cocoon. Listen, Senate Democrats want to investigate Jared Kushner's 299 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: loan from the Cuttery government when he was working in 300 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: the government negotiating many things in the Middle East? Are 301 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: you not concerned about that? And I say that because 302 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: it seems to me if you're concerned about what Hunter 303 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Biden did. He should be equally outraged about what Jared 304 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Kushner did. I'm concerned about getting the truth. I don't 305 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: target individuals. You're targeting Jared targeting an individual. Part of 306 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the problem, and this is pretty obvious Danny by watching 307 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: this is you don't invite me on to interview me. 308 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: You invite me on to argue with me. Part of 309 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: the reasons our politics are inflamed as we do not 310 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: have an unbiased media, partisan cable. Look, you can go 311 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: back on your partisan cable cocoon and talk about media 312 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: biased all you want. I understand it's party of your identity. 313 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: Who getting a little saucy there from Chuck Todd who, 314 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: by the way, his argument is utterly moronic. Here, Oh yeah, 315 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: let's look at Hunter Biden and look at Jared Kushner. 316 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is a literal crackhead who was selling access 317 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: to his dad getting paid millions dollars by China. I mean, 318 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner was already a billionaire before Donald Trump even 319 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: ran for office. What's it? What's the illegality that he's 320 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: even a theoretically charged with It makes no sense, No, 321 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: it's nonsensical. Exactly, and Chuck Todd told on himself, I 322 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: think as much as he did anybody else. Bluetooth wireless 323 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: technology is so popular. 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You 348 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a throwdown there, which I 349 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: feel like those are increasingly rare on cable news these days. 350 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: But you had a bit of a throwdown with Chuck Todd. 351 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: What was his Let me ask the senator what was 352 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: his beef about? What was he all fired up with 353 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: you about? Well? It was interesting. This is almost two 354 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: years of the day where he had me on Meet 355 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: the Press following January sixth, and like the conversation didn't 356 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: even progress. He doesn't like to hear what I say, 357 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: and so he starts talking over me. As I said 358 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: in the interview of Senate Interview US an argument. But 359 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: what he doesn't want to hear is that the mainstream media, 360 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: because of their bias, they are exacerbating dividing this country 361 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: that they if they won't admit it, I mean the 362 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: fact that they ignore all the wrongdoing of the FBI, 363 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice, of Democrats, of the Biden family. 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: All they focused in is on is Trump Trump Trump, 365 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Trump Trump, when we know as conservatives that they are 366 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: all kinds of problems within government, within these federal agencies, 367 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: or whether we're talking about the miserable, miserably failed response 368 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: to COVID, the corruption of the FBI. Mean, just at 369 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: a minimum, take a look at what the FBI did 370 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: surrounding Hunter Biden's computer. They get the thing in December 371 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, they spend the next nine months laying 372 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: the groundwork to sabotage. Should mciaac ever have the courage 373 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: after he's been worn by the way the FBI on 374 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the way out the door warns him, you know, it's 375 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: our experience that the people don't talk, don't get in trouble, 376 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: and so he didn't have the courage to reveal that 377 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: laptop and tell the day after Senator Grassling, my report issued, 378 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: and you said, well, senators are after this, I'll offer 379 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: to them. And then of course the FBI we went 380 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: to them to do our due deal. Just they want 381 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: to tell us squad about the fact that they actually 382 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: had that computer. So for nine months, the FBI's lamed 383 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: the groundwork to sabotage should MCIAAC ever reveal that computer. 384 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: And then, of course they apparently already had fifty one 385 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: intelligence officials lined up to write their own information operation 386 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: to tank that interfere in our election. So there's there's 387 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: such a larger story here. And I'm not downplaying the 388 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: classified information. I mean, Joe Biden ought to know this, 389 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: you know no better. It's it's hypocritical. Who knows what's 390 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: really happening here? This is such an odd story? Is 391 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: this just a further diversion operation? We're talking to Senator 392 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson Wisconsin. Much larger? Yeah, No, that's a that's 393 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: a fantastic question, one that Buck and I have been 394 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: debating for the past week or so to try to 395 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: figure out the larger context here. When I hear your fight, 396 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: your argument, however you want to classify it with Chuck Todd, Senator, 397 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: what it actually reflects to me is how desperate many 398 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: of these political figures in the media like Chuck Todd 399 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: are because I bet you see this too. Their overall 400 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: influence is diminishing in a hurry, and I would tie 401 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: it in. There was a story in the New York 402 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Times recently complaining that Ron de Santis wasn't talking enough 403 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: to the New York Times, as if he needed to 404 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: talk to the New York Times, isn't In a large 405 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: context this, Senator Johnson just about the declining power of 406 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: these media hierarchies to continue to control our national discourse, 407 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: and so they're lashing out. That's what I really see 408 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: this as that's real possibility, but it's actually a shame. Yea. 409 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: We need a free press, We need an unbiased free press. 410 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I would like a free press that holds both sides 411 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: equally accountable. You know one thing I learned in kindness 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: being the you know, the chairman of the STEM Investigatory Committee. 413 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: We need journals to be curious. We need them to 414 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: h dig for sources. People are far more willing to 415 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: talk to journalists as whistleblowers, and they are willing to 416 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: come forward to Congress because they don't believe the Congress 417 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: to keep their their identities confidential. So we need a 418 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: curious and unbiased media. But that's not what we have. 419 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: But we have a media that is by and large 420 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: part and parcel of the left, of the radical left, 421 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: and it's destroying this country. And that is that's exactly 422 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: what truck Todd doesn't want to hear. He wants to 423 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: somehow believe that he's an unbiased you know, processor Tim Russler, 424 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: He's not even close. None of these guys are. And 425 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: but that is just so destructive to our to our democracy. Okay, 426 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: we're going our response to COVID. If we would have 427 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: had an unbiased media, a curious media asking the FDA, 428 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: the CDC, now where's the data back and all this stuff, 429 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, should we may be exercises a little caution 430 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: with these this experimental gene therapy you we wouldn't. We wouldn't. 431 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: We would have had more emstus on early treatment with 432 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: chief generic drugs. I think hundreds thousands of lives would 433 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: have been saved. But again, the media doesn't want to 434 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: talk about that because they've been complicit in it. Speaking 435 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, you know, Senator, you mentioned 436 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: the Biden classified doc situation, which has obviously gotten a 437 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: lot of attention the last week or so a third 438 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: now iteration of the story or a third chapter of 439 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: the story has come out where there was yet again 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: they said, clay S turned out the show. Oh they've 441 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: done all the surging. No, actually they found some more. 442 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: Do you have even a working theory about or any ideas, 443 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: any kind of context you can give us for why 444 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: were they find who was finding this classified in the 445 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: first place? What do you think happened in that initial phase? Well, 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm not believing what I'm hearing. If 447 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: they discovered classified material and they wanted to expose this, okay, 448 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: what you would do, as you would do a thorough 449 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: search in every nook and cranny and you would expose 450 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: it all at once and be done with it. Yeah, 451 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: if that's not what's happened here at all. So this 452 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: story just sounds dirty to me. It makes no sense whatsoever. 453 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: I am highly suspicious. Again, Let's say, so there are 454 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: actors in our government. They're stock and trade is the 455 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: diversionary operations. I think that's exactly what the Russian inclusion 456 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: hoax was, and it worked. It works time and time again. 457 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: So they just keep, you know, implementing these diversionary operations 458 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: so I don't. I can't. I can't make header tails 459 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: of it. It certainly could be the mainstream media finally 460 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: just want to throw Joe Biden under the bus. But again, 461 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: the modified limited hangout here, I mean, the drip by 462 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: drip disclosure here is just bizarre to me. It makes 463 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: no sense whatsoever. Senator Ron Johnson joining us. Now, you 464 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: mentioned the COVID shots are earlier and people out there, no, 465 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: I say COVID shot because this is in no way 466 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: a vaccine positive story. Is that the Department of Defense 467 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: no longer requires the COVID shot for new recruits for 468 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: people who are serving in the military. But shouldn't we 469 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: go a step further, Senator, And I'm curious what you 470 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: would say about this, either voting to take away the 471 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: immunity that Maderna and Fizer received because I think it's 472 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: quite clear that they've engaged in fraud, and or allowing 473 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: plainiffs lawyers to file lawsuits. Because here's what I'm concerned about, Senator, 474 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there that are 475 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: seeing all these anecdotal stories of otherwise young people just 476 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: dropping dead, and we cover it at OutKick every single 477 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: day there's someone new twenties thirty, sometimes teenagers who just 478 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: suddenly are dying of heart attacks. Maybe those are connected 479 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: to the COVID shot, maybe they aren't. But don't we 480 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: owe the American public a full accounting of what these 481 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: shots have done, and also of holding these companies, which 482 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: were paid with taxpayer dollars, accountable for the product they 483 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: put out. We have, really do, and I don't see 484 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: how anybody can take a look at what's happening. You see, 485 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: these highly trained, in phenomenal shape of athletes just dropped 486 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: down the field at a far higher rate than has 487 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: ever been normal. These things aren't normal. I mean every 488 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: day you hear a new young celebrity or a new 489 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: young person dying in their sleep or just keeling over. Yeah, 490 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: that used to be rare. You would hear that, Okay, 491 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: this isn't normal. No, we need complete transparency, we complete honesty. 492 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: You know, I've been fighting for this for you know, 493 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: for the entire time of the pandemic. Our response and 494 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: pandemic has never made sense to me. The shutdowns there 495 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: not only ignoring, but the sabotage of really treatment, not 496 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: using caution, with this new gene therapy pushing on everybody 497 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: manning at everybody. We need a thorough accounting and yeah, 498 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think we have to take a look 499 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: at the entire vaccine laws in terms of how we 500 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: shield these companies these things. There's a great book, Turtles 501 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: All the Way Down, pretty well lays out the fact 502 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: we have never tested any of the vaccines on the 503 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: childhood schedule against the truth place Feeball. We need to 504 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: start asking a lot of questions. But the problem and 505 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: you know those guys, you know, a guy like me 506 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: ask that question, I amereily get labeled an anti vaccer, 507 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: which is you know, just right underneath I guess racist 508 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: and pedophile. But I'm going to keep asking those questions. 509 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: The only reason I ran again, quite honestly, is nobody 510 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: else is advocating for the vaccine injured. Nobody else is 511 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: making this point because fine large society, we are in 512 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: a complete state of denial in terms of what we 513 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: did to ourselves and how we've had our heads bared 514 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: and sand on this. But I'm going to be relentless 515 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: and trying to pursue the truth, exposed the truth so 516 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: that we can prevent further harms. Because right now there's 517 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: been a lot of harm done because the Anthony Fauci's, 518 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, the COVID cartel in general, this has 519 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: to be exposed. American people's deserve the truth on this 520 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: as well. Well, we're excited you won. We started on 521 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: this show trying to encourage you to run before you 522 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: ever announced. 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You don't know what you don't know right, 547 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: but you should on the Sunday Hang with Buck podcast, 548 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Welcome Back in Clay, Travis Buck, Sex and show our esteemed. 549 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden decided he wanted to celebrate Martin Luther 550 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: King Day by singing Happy Birthday to Martin Luther King 551 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the Third's wife. Her name is Andrea, her last name 552 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: clearly King. So Biden is adlimbing and freelancing. When he 553 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: goes off, they can't read the teleprompter. But when he 554 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: goes off the teleprompter things do not go well. He 555 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: decides to sing happy I Share this just happened he 556 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: decides to sing Happy birthday to her and clearly forgets 557 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: her name. This feels like a scene with Michael Scott 558 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: from the Office. Unfortunately it is real and this is 559 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: our leader of the free world. Joe Biden seeing Happy 560 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Birthday to MLK the Third's wife. Well, look, my wife 561 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: has a rule in our family on somebody's birthday is 562 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: sing happy birthday. You're ready, Happy birthday to you, Happy 563 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: birthday to you, Happy birthday, DearS, Happy birthday to you. 564 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh my, can we just get the last little bit 565 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: there where he I don't even know what name he's 566 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: even tempting to camouflage there. First of all, he could 567 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: have just said missus King. Right, we know that she 568 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: is Martin Luther King's wife the Thirds, so her name 569 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: as King, but her first name is Andrea. We just 570 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: grabbed that audio of what he says. Buck. I would 571 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: love to have seen the Biden advisors when this started. 572 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Remember it wasn't very long ago when Biden was looking 573 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: out in a in a room in the White House 574 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: and tried to give credit to an Indiana congresswoman who 575 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: had died when he said where's Jackie. Now he's trying 576 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: to sing happy birthday to someone who clearly has no 577 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: idea what her name is. I wonder at what point 578 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: during the singing it became aware to him that this 579 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: was not going to go well. There was a long 580 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: time in DC, so I had, you know, a two 581 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: DC periods of my life. One was a CIA guy 582 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: and then the other was as a media person, right, um, 583 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: and I moved back to New York in the intern 584 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: between those two. But I remember, I remember in the 585 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: early two thousands, people just thought Joe Biden was really dumb. Yeah, 586 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was a common This isn't 587 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: like I came up with this out of nowhere, and 588 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: it's not you know, they all side of that. George W. 589 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: Bush was so dumb when he was running for president. 590 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: But you've never heard about that beforehand. With Biden. It 591 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: was something that even Democrats said, right, It wasn't just 592 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: some profit. By the way, I don't think George W. 593 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Bush was dumb. I thought that was something that was 594 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: largely manufactured. Not always great on his feet, doesn't always 595 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: not always the most public speaker, yeah, the most exactly 596 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: lacking an eloquence sometime, sure, But George W. Bush was 597 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: not actually dumb. At all. That's not And I spent 598 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: time talking to the man about some really heavy stuff 599 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: and he's a smart he's a smart guy on issues 600 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: that he had to be, so that was unfair. But 601 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I just bring up the Biden thing because I mean, 602 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. It's it's always been. He's not that smart. 603 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: He says things that have to be cleaned up all 604 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: the time. He's a gaff machine. And yet somehow they 605 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: voiced this guy and as this president like it actually 606 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: does take moments for you to just gather together how 607 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: crazy the situation is. And I know he forgot of 608 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: course he forgot Clay. He saven years old. I don't 609 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: think he ever knew her name. But let's just listen again. 610 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: Her name is Andrea. We know that her last name 611 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: is King. Here is Joe Biden using I'm not even 612 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: sure what name he's trying to say. Here, Happy birthday, 613 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: dear have I mean buck, you know what this is 614 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: like that you ever ever? Are you ever singing a song? 615 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: You know you're caught and you're up in it and 616 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, little mamma, let me like you know, 617 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: you kind of do the like the mumbling thing because 618 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: you don't know the words. Yeah, It's like it's like 619 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: when you get to the second verse of a popular song, 620 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: and most people don't get to the second verse of 621 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: brock I think. I think it's black Black, Black Crows, 622 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: right the You know, there's that song where he speaks 623 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: really fast, he goes really fast, and like, no one 624 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: knows the words of that song. There are a lot 625 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: of songs where I just have to sort of hum 626 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: the words, like I have no idea, but the freelancing 627 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: to do that in such a cringe, uncomfortable way. It 628 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: is unbelievable to me that this guy is making any 629 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: decision that matters on any level. Like if Joe Biden 630 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: weren't president, his wife would never let him pick the 631 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: restaurant that they go to, right, I mean, doctor Joe 632 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't let her husband. And look, I get it. 633 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: I make very few decisions that matter in my house. 634 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: But it's not because I'm cognitively impaired. It's just herd. 635 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: If your brain worked well, you know her last name, 636 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: at least you could give her the signifier of miss King. 637 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: It's Martin Luther King day. The reason you're honoring her 638 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: is because she's married to MLK the third, the grandson 639 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: of Martin Luther King. But my goodness, this is just 640 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: you could put together all of these different clips. The 641 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: thing is, we saw John Fetterman get elected. Buck, My 642 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: concern is nobody's gonna care. But he's getting worse every 643 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: single day, week, month. But the thing is, again, like 644 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: if he forgets the words to a song, if he 645 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: forgets where he left is classified. Whatever he forgets is 646 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: totally understandable, or if he forgets a person's name, you know, 647 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: depending whatever it may be. Because the guy is too 648 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: old for the job and shouldn't be president. Yes, right, 649 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: So we keep coming back to this, but it's like 650 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: if we notice that we're a bad person, and we're 651 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: supposed to pretend like there's no issue here, but there 652 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: clearly is an issue here. This is why Americans across 653 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: the board don't want somebody who is eighty years old 654 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: or older to be president of the United States. And 655 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: that's not saying that every single person out there listening. 656 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: Some of you are over eighty and far more cognitively 657 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: in control than Joe Biden is, but you can't be 658 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: president until you're thirty five. Imagine if they had said 659 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: You can't be president after you're sixty five. You know 660 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: you can't fly an airplane after sixty five. Why it's 661 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Biden president