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Speaker 2: You know I could really be obnoxious. You guys have

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Speaker 2: been banging on Lamar Jackson for so many years. You

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Speaker 2: want to know what Lamar Jackson is after a loss.

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Speaker 2: The last three seasons ten and one, sixteen touchdowns, four picks,

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Speaker 2: and there are just certain arguments you just got to

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Speaker 2: give up on. He's really good. Does this count as

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Speaker 2: a big win? This felt like a big game for me.

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Speaker 2: Monday night football John versus Jim Harbor. I felt like

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Speaker 2: a kind of a big win. I lose track. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to keep track of all the big wins and

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Speaker 2: not big wins for Lamar Jackson. I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a two cigar night. And I

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Speaker 2: like the Chargers. I got friends with the Chargers, but

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Speaker 2: basically Baltimore is the adult Chargers. Remember a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, and you're like, the Ravens need more dynamic playmakers.

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Speaker 2: They draft z A Flowers this offseason, they get Derek Henry.

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Speaker 2: What are the Chargers need? Probably a more of a

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Speaker 2: star power running back, at least two more offensive playmakers.

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Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson can't catch three drops tonight. So like they

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Speaker 2: knew when they let go of Keenan Allen and Mike Williams,

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Speaker 2: they knew they were going to be perimeter light, So

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Speaker 2: they wanted to get Quentin Johnson as good as he

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Speaker 2: could possibly be. Nice deep threat, but can't catch Lad McConkie,

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Speaker 2: nice slot, average tight ends. They lost Gerald Everett, you know,

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Speaker 2: Chargers are had a schedule. I mean, last year they

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Speaker 2: lost to bad teams. This year the Chargers are six

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Speaker 2: to zero against losing records and they're one and four

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Speaker 2: against teams with winning records. So that this is what

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Speaker 2: the Chargers are right now. It's a really good football

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Speaker 2: team that is perimeter light. They need two more playmakers

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Speaker 2: and it kind of feels like they're Ravens. When it

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Speaker 2: was very very Lamar Jackson Reliant, Mark Andrews was great,

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Speaker 2: but you were like, they need two more wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Then they draft eventually z A Flowers and then they

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Speaker 2: add Derek Henry in you, okay, Lamar, it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit like Josh Allen before they got James Cook the

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Speaker 2: They keep drafting wide receivers. Now you look at it

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Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, Josh Allen's their best player, but

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Speaker 2: they're not totally Josh Allen reliant tonight, Derek Henry big runs,

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Speaker 2: Say Flowers big catches Hey Flowers is great. You can

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Speaker 2: So the Chargers are a little like Josh Allen pre

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Speaker 2: all the weapons and Lamar Jackson pre the weapons. Those

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Speaker 2: teams eventually meet a Kansas city. You just can't even

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Speaker 2: if a quarterback's great Lamar and Josh Allen, Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 2: you can't do it yourself. You can see the interior

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Speaker 2: protection tonight was not good for Justin Herbert. So in

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Speaker 2: the second half the guard center guard for the Chargers

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Speaker 2: getting pushed back and not a lot of separation by

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Speaker 2: the receivers. Lad mcconkey's a twitchy, quick players not a

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Speaker 2: Makes Herbert play a more perfect game, whereas a Flowers

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Speaker 2: way ahead of schedule by the way. The other thing

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Speaker 2: Chargers were number one in total defense, top three and

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Speaker 2: did Lamar do tonight Three for three on fourth down,

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Speaker 2: yards seven point one yards of play. It's a first

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just like so many great

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Speaker 2: golfers played during Tiger Wood's prime, Phil Micholson's and Alzheimer.

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks to me that jump out in this league,

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Speaker 2: there's about six of them, and Lamar and Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: have been sort of marginalized at times because they can't

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Speaker 2: beat Mahomes good luck. But this felt like a big

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Speaker 2: game and Lamar was, you know, the centerpiece of it.

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Speaker 2: The Oedther thing is, there was a couple of thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Number One, aggressive works. This game really changed. When the

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Speaker 2: Ravens go for it in their own sixteen get it

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Speaker 2: and leads to a touchdown. Aggressive wins, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I've talked about that all the time in sports. If

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Speaker 2: you have the pieces, go for it. They did turn

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Speaker 2: the game around. Secondly, there was a lot you heard

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Speaker 2: the young media lamenting nobody cares about running backs. Running

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Speaker 2: Backs aren't getting paid. You know, the top three rushers

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Speaker 2: in the NFL right now, we're all free agents. Teams

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Speaker 2: aggressively went out and got Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 2: Teams eventually pursued top running backs. They're not going to

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Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't sign running back to a second big contract.

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Speaker 2: That's just analytics. I mean, if you're one of these,

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Speaker 2: you know, these ivy leaguers who loves the analytics. Part

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Speaker 2: of the analytics is you shouldn't be paying running backs

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Speaker 2: that's part of analytics. The other thing is, you know,

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Speaker 2: I've said this about Lamar, don't really compare Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: to anybody else. Lamar is an outlier. He's a unicorn.

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Speaker 2: They are going to be a kind of a run

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Speaker 2: first team in big spots as long as Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: is their quarterback. It's it's you know, it's no different

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Speaker 2: if you got a fastball pitcher, that's your outpitch. Don't

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Speaker 2: throw breaking stuff in big at bats in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson on big downs with Derrick Henry, run the

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Speaker 2: last week or in the playoff game. That's what I

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Speaker 2: worry about. Baltimore lean on Lamar and Derek Henry in

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Speaker 2: that offensive line. So right now, running is cool again.

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Speaker 2: Philly Steelers, Lions, Packers, Ravens. What are they forty three

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Speaker 2: And part of this is again defenses linebackers are smaller.

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Speaker 2: Why because the game's more about space Like the NBA game,

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Speaker 2: it's more about space. Linebackers now are faster and smaller.

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Speaker 2: Safeties are faster and smaller. What does that mean? Get

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Speaker 2: powerful run games? So that's the beauty of sports. That's

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Speaker 2: what I love about sports and football. It's very very cyclical.

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Speaker 2: Running backs were going nowhere. Running backs create the right tempo.

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Speaker 2: Running backs Detroit's a great example. Running backs value is

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Speaker 2: often not the big play. It's you have a lead

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Speaker 2: and they kill the clock. Detroit is going to lead

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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the games they play, including potentially

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. What makes Detroit so lethal is that

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Speaker 2: when they get a lead, they can play keep away.

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Speaker 2: They got two great backs and they'll just with that

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Speaker 2: offensive line, they'll go on an eight minute drive, eleven

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Speaker 2: play drives. So running backs aren't just about the home run.

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Speaker 2: They're about playing with a lead. And I mean you

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Speaker 2: start looking at these teams right now. That's why Detroit

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Speaker 2: and Philadelphia could absolutely win the Super Bowl. Stacked rosters,

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Speaker 2: but the ability to lead, Yes, hit home runs out

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you know, there was no other Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kobe Bryant was like Michael Light, but there

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Speaker 2: there was no other Kareem. Nobody else had the sky

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Speaker 2: hook down. And I think Lamar Jackson you just have

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Speaker 2: to take him for what he is. He's the most

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Speaker 2: athletic quarterback I've ever seen. He's wildly entertaining. He is

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Speaker 2: a significantly better passer in the last three to four

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Speaker 2: years than anybody gives him credit for. And once again

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Speaker 2: he wins a big game in the AFC. If you're

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Speaker 2: late window on Fox or CBS, you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter what network you're paying. Those standalone games could be Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Those are big games. I mean, the idea isn't baseball.

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Speaker 2: You got seventeen of min eighteen weeks. They're big games,

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Speaker 2: especially when you get to November and December and January.

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Speaker 2: So I never bought into Lamar Jackson's not a big

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Speaker 2: game player. Yes, in the playoffs he has struggled against

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, so's Josh Allen. It's the Chiefs. Arguably, if

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Speaker 2: they win three straight, nobody's done it in league history.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people lost the Tiger Woods, right, A

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Speaker 2: lot of people lost to Jordan that were great teams.

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Speaker 2: So Lamar tonight, I think these are final stats. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: They don't need him to throw thirty four times a game.

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Speaker 2: That's not what Baltimore is. I worry about when Baltimore

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Speaker 2: throws over twenty eight times a game, they get away

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Speaker 2: from their identity. Tonight ran the ball. Lamar made as usual,

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Speaker 2: big throws when he had to big throw over the top,

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Speaker 2: great on third down, perfect on fourth down. A couple

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Speaker 2: I mean, Justin Herbert can't win the big game. One

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Speaker 2: having to throw them open. And when his pass protection

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Speaker 2: as good. I think they're pretty good at tackle. They're

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Speaker 2: lot of separation. And I mean there was a lot

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Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson tonight. A lot of it was underneath.

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Speaker 2: There were open guys. There were a lot of open guys,

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Speaker 2: and Lamar found up now. He missed on a couple

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Speaker 2: because Lamar is often on the move when he throws,

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Speaker 2: he can miss people. But I don't know how anybody

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Speaker 2: of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. Just everybody's

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Speaker 2: got different gifts. Everybody's got different gifts in life. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if you're a broadcaster, you work in a hospital,

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Speaker 2: or a quarterback. The great ones all have different styles.

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Speaker 2: And I just can't quit Baltimore owner, front office, coach, quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They've added playmakers last couple of years. Yeah, I said

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Speaker 2: there's four teams that feel like they should be favorites

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout. I don't remember having a

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting. I was watching Caleb Williams today,

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Speaker 2: who was just he's such a talented guy. Boon Nicks

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Speaker 2: looks fantastic. Jaden Daniels has hit the cliff Kingsbury wall,

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Speaker 2: you know, around Thanksgiving. Even in college, his teams tended

428
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Speaker 2: to swoon late. And I looked at rock Purty. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna keep him right. I mean, you can't pay him

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Speaker 2: fifty million, but they're gonna broker a deal here probably

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Speaker 2: in the forties. Is that what you're thinking?

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Speaker 1: They do? They have to, they call it. Why why

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Speaker 1: are we always in such a rush? Like he's he's

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Speaker 1: not struggling to put food on the table. He's making

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars off the field. It's an incredible spot

436
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Speaker 1: for him with Kyle if you win six or seven games,

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Speaker 1: and listen, this hasn't been his fault necessarily, But why

438
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Speaker 1: are we in a rush to spend fifty million when

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Speaker 1: clearly what there are four or five guys in the

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Speaker 1: league that you feel really good about it, and then

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Speaker 1: the next five guys making that much money or somewhat

442
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Speaker 1: of a roller coaster. You know, I would have no

443
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Speaker 1: problem giving him that. I don't know Kirk Cousins, Daniel

444
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Speaker 1: Jones eighty ninety and everyone's like, well, he'll never take that. Well,

445
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Speaker 1: then we won't do a deal. You know, if he

446
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Speaker 1: would have got me back to the NFC Championship game

447
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Speaker 1: this year, you wouldn't have had a choice. But they're

448
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Speaker 1: not sniffing the playoffs. He's injured. Now we're playing it

449
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Speaker 1: out Like the problem with Dallas playing it out is

450
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Speaker 1: you knew how it was going to play out. Why

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Speaker 1: can't we just take a deep breath and see how

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Speaker 1: see what happens?

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Speaker 2: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Where is he going? Yeah, well it's a better situation.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's lighting up one? He's not a free agent,

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Speaker 1: but who's lining up on the open market to give him,

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Speaker 1: let's just say, one hundred and fifty million dollars a year?

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Speaker 1: Who you big against? Yeah, so they regret the IU contract,

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Speaker 1: they have to. If they could do that over again,

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Speaker 1: they would have traded him before the draft. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's not even so let's take a deep breath, let's

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Speaker 1: just play it out, and that that's what I I

463
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Speaker 1: would say most of my life, what up until the

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Speaker 1: last four or five years, that's usually how business used

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Speaker 1: to happen. Unless your name was like Peyton Manning or

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Speaker 1: Ladanian Tomlinson or some like all time great player. Most

467
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Speaker 1: players usually had to fight for their cash. And now,

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Speaker 1: just because the league's flush with it, we just give

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Speaker 1: it away. And again I have no problem giving it

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Speaker 1: to the elite guys. Hell, Trent Williams, you need a boost,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a boost. Rockberdy, like, let's just take

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Speaker 1: a deep breath, everybody. That's been my stance all along

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Speaker 1: is why can't What was the rush to pay Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 1: Does any team regret a contract more than the Jags,

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Speaker 1: Like five weeks into the contract at least two has

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Speaker 1: proven like, but again, Tua's not making two hundred plus trial,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So and the party thing was being talked about, well,

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Speaker 1: it's the Trevor Lawrence and it's like, well, if I'd

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Speaker 1: give them one hundred and forty million dollars right now,

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Speaker 1: but that's not what the ballpark that has been discussed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's such a big decision. I'd peel

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Speaker 2: off some of the players. I would have moved off

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Speaker 2: Deebo last year. I wouldn't have paid Ayuk. I think

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Speaker 2: they've been a little negligent on the offensive line. They've

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Speaker 2: they've attacked the defensive line. I think they've been a

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Speaker 2: bit negligent on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I just don't not Colin. They're not negligent. They've been

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Speaker 1: Kyle and the offensive line coach have been open about

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Speaker 1: their philosophical belief of skill players are more important than

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen. Oh, you can tell they believe in that

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Speaker 1: zone scheme that I can take mainly average guys. Obviously

492
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Speaker 1: Trent is their outlier. But how'd they get Trent. They

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Speaker 1: got them for a third round pick right in the

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Speaker 1: only reason he didn't go to Minnesota, who was offering

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Speaker 1: way more as he refused to go there because he

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Speaker 1: wanted to play for his guy, Kyle. So they've openly said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't take offensive lineman if we believe a skill

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Speaker 1: guy's on the board higher the football I was around

499
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Speaker 1: growing up, you know, with coach Hill, who came from

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Speaker 1: Belichick and then Andy Reid and Howie Roseman. They would

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Speaker 1: laugh at that they would take offensive lineman in the

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Speaker 1: first round and then they take him again in the

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Speaker 1: second round.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nix has completely surpassed Jaden Daniels for offensive Rookie

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Speaker 2: of the Year. Like it's not club. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: the last six games. It's not close. Bo Nicks looks confident, accurate, poised, athletic.

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Speaker 2: Jaden's lost his fastball. And so, you know, I talked

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Speaker 2: to Steve kaim I said, you know, can you explain

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Speaker 2: the Cliff Kingsbury College and professional swoon in the second

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Speaker 2: half of the season. And Steve just said, he's a

511
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Speaker 2: very smart, creative guy who works in the summer to

512
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Speaker 2: come in with new stuff and maybe the league catches

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Speaker 2: up with him that he doesn't pivot to the second

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Speaker 2: pitch after he's brought in new stuff. But Steve didn't

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Speaker 2: really have an answer, But you know, he said, hard working, clever, smart,

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Speaker 2: he does come in every year with new stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I was sitting there watching that thing today and by

518
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Speaker 2: the way, Washington almost pulled it off. But once again

519
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: Washington missed Pats. They missed a field golf special teams

520
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: in this league are I don't remember a year that

521
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Speaker 2: special teams decided more football games. They're just terrible. But

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Speaker 2: I looked at this and I thought to myself today,

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Speaker 2: if you could redraft all the quarterbacks, and you have

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Speaker 2: to consider Sean Payton and the bow next deal, if

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Speaker 2: you could redraft the quarterbacks, would you draft them differently?

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Speaker 2: Forget the teams? Would you read draft them differently?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Caleb's at least quieted, and listen, I

528
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Speaker 1: was starting to wonder, what the hell are we? Watching

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Speaker 1: these last two weeks make you feel a lot better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, today he made throws where you're like, that's

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Speaker 1: what a number one overall pick looks like. No disputing.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I will defend Jade and Daniels because today

533
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Speaker 1: he was running around pretty well. I came into this season.

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Speaker 1: I know you picked him to make the playoffs. I

535
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Speaker 1: thought this was more like a six or seven win team.

536
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Speaker 1: It was going to be an impressive operation, but wins

537
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Speaker 1: loss were not going to be what it looked like

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Speaker 1: they were going to be three weeks ago. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're that talented Colin. I honestly, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're teams that good Yeah, Terry mclaurin's good. Their running

541
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Speaker 1: backs getting banged up. Brian Robinson's a good player, but

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Speaker 1: he was in and out. So if they're not running

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Speaker 1: the ball well, And here's the one thing, and I

544
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Speaker 1: always thought this about Chip Kelly, and you know, Mike

545
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Speaker 1: Leach never came to the NFL. But Cliff's a good example.

546
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Speaker 1: These spread offenses. Right early on in the season, rapid

547
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Speaker 1: fire defenses aren't as dialed. Take advantage of it. As

548
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Speaker 1: the season goes on, weather changes a little bit, it

549
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Speaker 1: gets a lot more physical. What Dallas happened today. Parsons

550
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Speaker 1: is back now, like their defense is a little bit

551
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Speaker 1: more I would say legitimate with him in the game,

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Speaker 1: and they were just ready for a brawl like they

553
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Speaker 1: got pride. I mean they got a lot high page and.

554
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Speaker 2: Is accurate moves the ball for sure.

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Speaker 1: And it was a physical game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes the more physical you are with more

558
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Speaker 1: of the quote unquote spread offenses, you can shove them

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Speaker 1: around a little bit. And I think that's really what's

560
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Speaker 1: happened in my opinion. Now. You know once that I

561
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Speaker 1: saw on the Denver game is Bonnix hasn't turned the

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Speaker 1: ball over in fourteen quarters. One pass was on a

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Speaker 1: hail Mary. But Jane Daniels have three picks today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, So it's like you start turning the ball over,

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Speaker 1: you start forcing things. Games are a little closer. The

567
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Speaker 1: other thing is in the NFL, you know, regardless of records,

568
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Speaker 1: I've always thought, you know, as the season goes on,

569
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Speaker 1: like where do you get a lot of upsets in

570
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Speaker 1: the NFL? Are division games in November and December with

571
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Speaker 1: a good team versus bad team? We see it every year. Yea,

572
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Speaker 1: like today, who in their right mind would have given

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Speaker 1: Dallas a shot? But you can tell halfway through You're like,

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Speaker 1: this is a real game, this is gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: Well, the tight quarterback played great. Yeah, No, it's it's you.

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Speaker 2: I think. When I looked at that game, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Dallas just screwed up your drafts spot. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 2: to your point, I think we have to take a

579
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Speaker 2: deep breath. Washington replaced everybody they came in with a

580
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: new quarterback and a new offense. In Cliff Kingsbury's history

581
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Speaker 2: of starting the first six to eight weeks quickly, but

582
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Speaker 2: then eventually regression to the meme. Whereas Denver is better

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Speaker 2: than people think. Denver's got some really good players. Denver

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Speaker 2: has an elite offensive coach, Denver has a college quarterback

585
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Speaker 2: with sixty one starts, and Denver's Cortland Sutton, who, like

586
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Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, is just a big target that's open all

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Speaker 2: the time. And I want to pivot to that game

588
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Speaker 2: because we haven't talked a lot of Denver on our

589
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Speaker 2: Sunday podcast. So Denver beats the Raiders twenty nine nine

590
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Speaker 2: teams the only.

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Speaker 1: Game all day.

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Speaker 2: If I would have bet every game, I think I

593
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Speaker 2: would have gotten right. So bo Nick's his last eight games,

594
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Speaker 2: John fifteen touchdowns, two picks, and a one oh four

595
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Speaker 2: passer rating in those games, they're five and if a

596
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Speaker 2: field goal is not blocked against the Chiefs, they're six

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Speaker 2: and two. Like we have to acknowledge now Denver with

598
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Speaker 2: in dead cap money, hell, that sacrificed draft capital. I

599
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: think this is a good team. I watch them again.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders don't have a lot of quarterback, but they've

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Speaker 2: got some talent. I think we have to be honest

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Speaker 2: about this. I think Denver's pretty good football team.

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Speaker 1: Well, Colin, I think we could be seven days away

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Speaker 1: from them being officially, I guess unofficially a playoff team

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Speaker 1: because they play Cleveland this week. In Miami, who's obviously

606
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Speaker 1: got it together with Tua back, A lot of people

607
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Speaker 1: think that they are alive and well, well, they play

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Speaker 1: the Packers this week. So if Miami loses and they

609
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Speaker 1: are then five and seven and Denver wins, they would

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Speaker 1: be eight and five. Like, I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: seeing Miami catch them. So this is a massive week.

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Speaker 1: Like I think Denver's in the playoffs. If they handle

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Speaker 1: business this week and all of a sudden you start

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Speaker 1: doing the math like they're getting a nine, no doubt,

615
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Speaker 1: But I think they end up with ten, and that's

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Speaker 1: they basically doubled their win total. Like this. This has

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Speaker 1: been a huge year for Sean Payton. Honestly, it's been

618
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: a win win for Russell Anshewan. Yes, some marriages break up,

619
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Speaker 1: go other places, happy as hell with your separate significant others.

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Speaker 1: That's how it's worked out here. So it just it

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Speaker 1: was never gonna work. You thought it. We all thought it.

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Speaker 1: Anyone with a brain that knows these two personalities, even

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Speaker 1: if you don't know him personally, you're like, this isn't

624
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Speaker 1: gonna work. And they broke up and it's gone well

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Speaker 1: for both Listen Right and Sean Payton. I think was

626
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Speaker 1: pretty lucky that, you know, there was six quarterbacks in

627
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Speaker 1: the you know, because a lot of them were going high.

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Speaker 1: It just happened to be a very unique draft because

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Speaker 1: it's not like they were drafted fourth right, so he

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Speaker 1: needed some of the stuff was out of his control,

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Speaker 1: and it worked out perfectly. The type guy that he

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Speaker 1: would like is the last guy off the board in

633
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Speaker 1: the top fifteen. I mean, it was a historic draft, right,

634
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Speaker 1: six guys going the top twelve thirteen picks. We might

635
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Speaker 1: never see that again.

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Speaker 2: And Denver has in nine of the last twelve games,

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Speaker 2: and this is so big for rookie quarterback. They've held

638
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Speaker 2: opponents under twenty So when bow nicks it maybe struggles

639
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: today a little bit in a couple of drives. They're

640
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: not giving up points.

641
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: So their dbs A, their dbs are good. I mean

642
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: every time I look up, obviously certains good. They have

643
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: all these other guys. This is why vance Joseph, which

644
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Shawn deserves credit for, because you give up seventy points

645
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: in a game. I would have been like, Shawn, you

646
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: might have to fire this guy. By mid season, stick

647
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: it out by the end of the year. Last year,

648
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: they're playing good defense. This year, I think that has

649
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: to be the most surprised unit of the league. They

650
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: feel just on the it test, one of the best

651
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: defenses in the league. I know Gardner Minshew today, but

652
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: the score was a little closer. This guy never once

653
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: crossed my mind that the Raiders were gonna win that

654
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: game today.

655
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: No, but they've been doing this now for two months.

656
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: I mean, go to the Kansas City game. They outplayed

657
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, and so on the road.

658
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: That's where I think. You know, depending on how this Denver,

659
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: more than likely it would probably be the seven seed. Baltimore. Yeah,

660
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, they already has four losses. But if you're

661
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: telling me two of the three wild cards are Denver

662
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: and the Chargers, Like anytime you play your wild card weekend,

663
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: you're playing an excellent defense, like you could lose. You know,

664
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: this is not a three to seven game series. All

665
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have a shitty half, You're down

666
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: fourteen to three in the third quarter. We've seen this

667
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: every year. So you got two teams separate from obviously

668
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Herbert's you know, an elite player. But even with a

669
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. We have seen rookie quarterbacks have success in

670
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: the PLAYFF because they don't have to do that much.

671
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: And that's kind of you know, bo Nicks, as long

672
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: as he didn't turn the ball over and their defense

673
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: played a high level game, why couldn't they win it

674
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen or fifteen to thirteen. They're very comfortable

675
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: playing that way.

676
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Think about this, and I watched them today. Sean Payton

677
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: does such a good job of two things. Defining. He

678
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: gives bo Nix about eight layups. He gives them a

679
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: lot of easy stuff. And then bow Knicks deserves credit

680
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: because he is constantly seeking Courtland Sun and Courtland Sutton

681
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: is a basketball with a helmet. I mean that he's

682
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: big in the corner, Jesus big, long athletic. I've always

683
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: liked Courtland Sutton so and mims Is it can be

684
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: a burner. I like their backs. But you can see

685
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: that he gets Bownicks easy stuff. And then bow Bow

686
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: like Russell does with George Pickens, Bow just attacks Cortland Sutton.

687
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: But take out Andy Reid. Just take Andy Reid out.

688
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: Belichick's now not coaching. On any given Sunday, I'd argue

689
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's as good as coach as the league has.

690
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that. I think Andy Reid's the best,

691
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: maybe arguably ever. But now that Belichick's out take out

692
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, he can go toe to toe. I mean,

693
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: I love Sean McVay. They've had some bad offensive halves

694
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: when people are healthy. So I think a lot of

695
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: this is, you know, it's just funny because Shawn's done

696
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: things to alienate people. He's outspoken. Remember he took a

697
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: shot at the Jets. He was right by the way.

698
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: You know, he took a shot at Nat Hackett. He

699
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: was right by the way. But you know, when you

700
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: lead with your chin, you offend a lot of people.

701
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: You cannot watch Denver and not see the coaching. It's

702
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: it's I mean to me, if you gave Coach of

703
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: the Year today, I don't know how you'd I don't

704
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: know who you'd pick. I think Sean Payton's now after

705
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: that Tomlin time out mess, clock management mess. I think

706
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: I give it to Sean Payton.

707
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's the one award that, honestly,

708
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: as time goes on, is irrelevant, right, Like Belichick, Andy Reed,

709
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: they don't even have that many. Andy Reid doesn't have one.

710
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: As a cancy chiefs head coach like Jim Harbaugh took

711
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: over a team that won five games, They're probably gonna

712
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: win eleven or twelve. And I think the way you

713
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: just describe Sean, I think Jim is definitely mellowed out

714
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: in his older age, but he was a lot like

715
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: that early on in Michigan and definitely with San Francisco

716
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and both I mean, look at those two guys. If

717
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: you would have said that the Chargers in Denver, whatever

718
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: the odds, if you would have parlayed those two teams

719
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, Colin, they might make the playoff.

720
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: They might be resting starters by the last week of season.

721
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: And it's not a coincidence that those guys. Here's the

722
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: other thing, and Sean, once he hired Dennis Allen, their

723
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: defense was excellent the last three or four years with

724
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: the Saints. Jim, both offensive guys, former quarterbacks value defense

725
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: and will pay for it and invest in it. And

726
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: that really matters. And I don't think it's shocking. And

727
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: this is why you're watching the Raiders today. You're like,

728
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: can you imagine being the redhead stepchild of your division

729
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: when you're in that you know, with those three coaches, Like,

730
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: what do you even do? Like? You better hope Belichick

731
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: picks up your call this offseason, because if he doesn't,

732
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: you got no shot.

733
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: I watched Bryce Young today, who's arguably the best quarterback

734
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: ever in Southern California high school history, who was dominant

735
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: in college. I ran into his high school coach the

736
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: other night at Modern Day, a legend who's retired, and

737
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: I said, best player you ever had? You know, first

738
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: second name out was Bryce Young. He's like, he's just

739
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: a remarkable player, great kid. I don't think Caroline is

740
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: going to draft a quarterback. I think the class is

741
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: two weak. I think they think Bryce is better than

742
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: anybody outside of Shador Sanders. I think Caroline is going

743
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: to give Bryce Young another year. What's say you?

744
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would say he's done a lot like his

745
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: version of what Caleb has done these last couple of weeks. Yep,

746
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, over the last three games for him, he's

747
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: looked like a real player. Now, if you could do

748
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: it all over again, would you have mortgaged what you

749
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: did to get him. I mean I think probably not,

750
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I would not, but he has been more than respectable

751
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: these last three weeks. And he you know, confidence is

752
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: a powerful thing for young players. Listen, He's not he's

753
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: a little small, not a great athlete, but he does

754
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: have a natural feel for the position. And that's what

755
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: was so head scratching when they essentially had to bench him,

756
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: is he was inaccurate. He was making awful decisions. He

757
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: just looked lost and maybe sometimes like you just take

758
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: a reset. Listen, I think Anthony Richardson, even today they

759
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of got just has looked a lot better. I

760
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: thought he looked a lot better today. Take a deep breath.

761
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bryce needed to be like humbled

762
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: like Anthony Richardson, but he definitely, like just take a

763
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: step back was probably healthy for him, and he looks

764
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: like a real NFL quarterback. Now, their team a lot

765
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: of question marks. Is their coaching staff good enough? Is

766
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: their talent long way to go? But I'm with you, like,

767
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna draft cam Ward or Quinn?

768
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: You were so well the same thing in Tennessee. They

769
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: beat the Texans today and so that's I mean, this

770
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: is not a game that's riveting. But the Titans thirty two,

771
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: Texans twenty seven. So listen, the last six games, c J.

772
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: Stroud is really struggling. They went and got Stefan Diggs

773
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: should have probably addressed the interior line. C J. Stroud

774
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: is hurrying everything. He is struggling. He has a seventy

775
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: four passer rating in his last six games. He is

776
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: really struggling. But I watched Will Levis today and my

777
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: take his with Bryce Young and Will Levis, I'm just

778
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: keeping them. I'm giving him another year. I mean, hell,

779
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: the Giants paid Daniel Jones. I don't think Daniel's as

780
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: natural as Bryce Young. I don't think he's as I

781
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: don't think he has the arm of Will Levis. And

782
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: my take watching Will Levis today the last two weeks,

783
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, yeah, they got boat raced by Detroit.

784
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: They don't have the same level of players. But I

785
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: watched Will Levis and Bryce Young and my take is

786
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: we like CJ. Scroud and we see what he's going through,

787
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: and Houston's got better players than the Titans. I thought

788
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: Will Levis today bought himself absolutely another year. I mean,

789
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: you can go get Sam Darnold in the market. I

790
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: think they're just gonna.

791
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Stick with him. Yeah, I mean, you know, Will did

792
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: give you the one pick six. No, he he did

793
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: make some fantastic throws down the field. Something is really

794
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: off with Houston. I mean, they have not looked good

795
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: in a way, even in their wins. It's just they

796
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: looked a lot different. Maybe was their schedule last year. Obviously,

797
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, protecting CJ has been a problem, but they

798
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: look they look like a lock to be a one

799
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: and done. You know, if you tell me they're playing

800
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers or the Race, even in the first round,

801
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the way they're playing, I'd say Cyanarah. But I hear you, like,

802
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: this is this league's hard, and I think sometimes you know,

803
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: these teams get so caught up on these shiny targets.

804
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: It's like, let's use Digs for an example. So you're

805
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: telling me the Bills, and listen, I know people with

806
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: the Texans, they like Digs. But even like he hasn't

807
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: been a personal personality problem. But let's just talk about

808
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: the player standpoint. The Bills, who have been one of

809
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: the best operations in the league minus like the Chiefs

810
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: for the last four years, are completely out on the guy.

811
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: You already have Nico Collins and Tank Dell, who are

812
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: clearly a good young nucleus. With Schultz, you're gonna add

813
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: a running back, Like your offense is not lin of scrimmage,

814
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, line of scrimmage, Yet you go do that, Like,

815
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I think that's one where you're like, we didn't need

816
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: to do that. That's right, but that doesn't make sense.

817
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: We should have been extra aggressive for another guard, for

818
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: another center, for another d tackle. That's where we're gonna

819
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: separate ourself from the line of scrimmage. They felt like

820
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: they wanted to go more and be this spreaded around team,

821
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what they look like now. They're

822
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: just kind of soft. Yeah, and their offense gets shoved

823
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: around today. I mean, one thing the Titans have had

824
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: all year long is their defense is pretty good. Yes,

825
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you remove that game against the Lions where they scored

826
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: seventy five points, Like, the Titans defense has not been

827
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: the problem. And now Will Levis, I think statistics over

828
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: the last couple weeks have been a lot better on

829
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: what have they been, They've been a lot more competitive.

830
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you have to strongly consider

831
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: this quarterback class where Schner Sanders is the best product

832
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: project prospect. But it's not great. I mean, he's got

833
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: there's some ego, there's some emotion he holds on.

834
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have gone if you put

835
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: him in this last draft. Yeah, he doesn't go ahead

836
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: of Kleb. No, he does not. Jayden's more physically gifted.

837
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I think there's I would say, above a fifty percent

838
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: chance that they still would go with Drake May in

839
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: New England, bigger arm, cold weather like that factors in,

840
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: so he wouldn't have even potentially gone definitely in the

841
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: top two, but probably in the top three of this

842
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: last quarterback class. That's not even a shock. Drake May

843
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: was Nick Saven tried to give him five million dollars

844
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: the previous year. Yeah, so I think sometimes we act

845
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: like Drake May was just this overdrafted scrub and they

846
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: got their butt kicked today. But he was. He's a

847
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: legitimate prospect coming out of college.

848
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Well, and I think Sean Payton identified very early bo

849
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Nix was his Drew Brees. So Shaduur is benefiting greatly.

850
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: Cam Ward is a lot of backyard football, a very

851
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: edgy personality, and I'll just I'll leave it at that.

852
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: He's a very edgy personality, not for everybody. Jalen Milroll

853
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: is not very fluid. Big strong kid, great parents, wonderful kid,

854
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: completely coachable. He's Anthony Richardson but better at this point.

855
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: But he's not a natural, Like he can make great throws,

856
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: but he doesn't. He doesn't feel like he's played enough quarterback,

857
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: like he needs a lot of work. So my take is,

858
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: if I got Will Levis and I look at it

859
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: and I think, well, maybe Will's not shaduor Sanders. But

860
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: if I if I've got five wins and I'm drafted nine,

861
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm not moving up for Shador Sanders. Im I'm just

862
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: staying with Will Levis for a year. All Right. It

863
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: is time for another edition, the Thanksgiving Edition. It's a

864
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: tasty one. Sharper Square Chad Millman, co host of the Favorites.

865
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: All odds provided by DraftKings. So this line I didn't understand.

866
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: There's a couple of lines this week I didn't quite get.

867
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: So the Steelers are a much better football operation than

868
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and the Bengals. And I've talked about this before.

869
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: The Bengals moved off Joe Mixon and defensive players before

870
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: they paid T Higgins and Jamar Chase. There's just a

871
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: cheap franchise. Pittsburgh awful. Loss is going to be feisty.

872
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is a dog is great. Burrow's wonderful, but not

873
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: when he's sitting on the bench watching a run game,

874
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: dominate time of possession. I like the Steelers as a

875
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: dog plus three, it's a much better team. Sharpe square.

876
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, it's the sharp play. It makes no

877
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: sense that the number is even close to three.

878
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

879
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: It's been bouncing around. It opened to two and a half,

880
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: got that up to three, came back to two and

881
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: a half. Because the wise guys know Mike Tomlin as

882
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: a dog sixty two percent on the road, he is

883
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: the best coach as a dog this generation. Twenty years.

884
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: He is sixty two percent as a dog in the

885
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: division on the road, sixty four percent when the spread

886
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: is between one and three. I do believe that a

887
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 4: lot of people are just enamored with how Joe Burrow

888
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: has been playing.

889
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: It's pretty year.

890
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: He's putting up pinball numbers, right, But this is a

891
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: terrible defense and while they've been off for two weeks,

892
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: the Steelers have been off for ten days, and it's

893
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: a raw, raw Mike Tomlin spot. He makes these guys believe,

894
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: and there's still in a position where they can win

895
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 4: that division, so you're not going to want to lose

896
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 4: an in division game. I bet the Steelers on the

897
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: money line.

898
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: Another dog I like is Arizona plus three and a half.

899
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: The Vikings so off of by Arizona was a mess,

900
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: and a lot of it was Seattle got a consistent

901
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: pass rush. I don't think Minnesota's pass rush will be

902
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: that formidable. I also think Arizona, when they can run

903
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: the ball, is a really really effective team. I think

904
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: they'll have a better chance to run the ball here.

905
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: Arizona's inconsistent, but this is a team that has for

906
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: the last five weeks. I mean, they went to Miami

907
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: in one and they went to Santa Clair in one.

908
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: I think their personnels better than people think. They have

909
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: elite players, Budda Baker's elite, Connor's elite. Mcgride is a

910
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: tremendous tight end, Kyler Murray's elite. They don't have big

911
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: names on the interior d line, but they play well,

912
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: they play above their weight. So I just think I

913
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: think this is a close game. Minnesota doesn't really bury people.

914
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: Go look at the Jacksonville game, Go look at the

915
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: Chicago game. They're not Philadelphia. They don't blow over you.

916
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: They make mistakes, they're missing their great left tackle. They're

917
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: a good team, they're not special. They're well coached with

918
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: some nice playmakers. But you watch the Minnesota game, that's

919
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: a go either way football game. It doesn't look like

920
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: either team is significantly more talented and one is in turmoil,

921
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know, they kind of look

922
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: the same. I'm taking the three and a half with

923
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Arizona Sharper square.

924
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Eh.

925
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: It's kind of an is ish, like there's no consensus.

926
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: It's not a lot of interest, to be honest, from

927
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: the wise guys. There's some games on the board that

928
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: the wise guys have planted a flag in the sand on.

929
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: This is not one of them. A lot of the

930
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: wise guys liked Arizona last week. They feel a little

931
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: burned by what happened in Seattle. You still don't know,

932
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: we said last week. They put all their cards on

933
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: the table right pun intended, and they come off the

934
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: buy Kyler kind of looks disinterested. So what are you

935
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: going to be getting the second week going against Minnesota

936
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 4: which still has a lot to lose, And you're right,

937
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: they gave it away against the Bears, like the Bears

938
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 4: should not even have been close to turning that game

939
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: into an overtime game, so that they come out with

940
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: a little more intensity this week. It's just a hard

941
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 4: one and handicap. I think I think the line is

942
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: kind of right exactly where it is.

943
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Okay, a favorite I like Buffalo at home minus seven,

944
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: well rested and waiting for a Niners team. Bosa didn't practice,

945
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Trent Williams didn't practice. I'm not sure if that locker room.

946
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: I mean, if Bosa doesn't play, that's a very average

947
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: D line. Buffalo's rested, they're healthy. You know, they're a

948
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: team that they're playing for the number one seed here.

949
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, Alan the backup for San Francisco,

950
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: that's not gonna work. That's just not good enough. And

951
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: brock Prudy, who he never has a great arm, is

952
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: now dealing with a shoulder issue. Again, this is not

953
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: a guy with a whip to begin with. This is

954
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: the rare. I think the Niners are living off reputation.

955
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're a very special football team.

956
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: Five and seven in their last twelve, I'm gonna lay

957
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: the seven. I like Buffalo Sharper square sure.

958
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: I mean the wise guys had been betting Buffalo. It

959
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: opened at six and a half, it's got up to seven.

960
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: I think the real question why it sort of hasn't exploded,

961
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: And we saw this last week with the Packers, is

962
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: brock Purty. What's his status gonna be? So no one's

963
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: going to overinvest until they get a real sense of

964
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: what whether or not he's going to be playing. I

965
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: agree with you about Nick Bosa. If you watch that

966
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: game against the Seahawks, he was the difference when he

967
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 4: was playing, they were in control of that game. Gino

968
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: Smith was harassed, he was making bad decisions and bad

969
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: throws when he was no longer playing. In that game,

970
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: Geno Smith goes on a drive in the final two

971
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: minutes that wins in the game, and now all of

972
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's propelling Saddle into Seattle and everyone thinking

973
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: they're a super special team and they could potentially win

974
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: the NFC West. Nick Boson not being there and Trent

975
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: Williams are those are massive, massive missing pieces.

976
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: I like the Titans plus five and a half at

977
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: the Commanders. I think Cliff Kingsbury does this single guy

978
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: a lot of time in the summer, plays some golf

979
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: and comes up with a new offense, and I think

980
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: it fools people, and then all of a sudden, about

981
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: mid October to late October, if you look at his

982
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: history in college or pro football, people catch up. And

983
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: then you're left with a September offense in November. And

984
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Commanders. I mean Jesus, It's

985
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys had the Commander's playbook. They would flush

986
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: Daniels out of the pocket and there were guys just

987
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: waiting for him. And I think Tennessee is really good upfront,

988
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: defensively disruptive. I think Will Levis still makes He's got

989
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: that Will Levis Carson Wentz reckless gene. But you know what,

990
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: I think he's played himself into another year starting and

991
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: I think you can sense it. I think he doesn't

992
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: feel as apprehensive. I just don't. I'm not giving up

993
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: five and a half points for anybody against the Commanders.

994
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: I think they're just right now. An average roster. They

995
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: have laid out their cards, everybody's seen them. I'm taking

996
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: the five and a half. I think Tennessee's a tough,

997
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: physical team. Is Houston found out Sharper square.

998
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you nail that.

999
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: It's totally sharp.

1000
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: The interesting thing here is the line moved from six

1001
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: and a half to six to five and a half

1002
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: early in the week, and for what we're talking about here,

1003
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 4: early in the week was really Monday. Yeah, and that

1004
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: was a consensus professional move. I bet it at five

1005
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: and a half. It moved up a little bit to

1006
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: six six and a half again, and now it's come

1007
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: back down. I couldn't agree with you more. The cliff,

1008
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: the cliff Kingsbury cliff mid season is real. Statistically, right,

1009
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: Texas Tech they would get to the middle point of

1010
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 4: the year, they would lose. Cardinals they would get to

1011
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: the middle point of the year, they would lose. If

1012
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: you unpack that, it's somewhat circumstantial, right. You could look

1013
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: at Texas Tech and be like, Okay, they play Patsy's

1014
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: in the beginning of the year, they get into the conference,

1015
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: the schedule gets hush right, right, and the Cardinals a

1016
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: couple of times he had Kyler Murray injured, didn't have

1017
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: the full scope of his talent, and all of a

1018
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: sudden the team isn't as good. But it's happening again.

1019
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: It's happening this time because Jade Daniels is injured and

1020
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: has been playing injured. And after that rocket start the

1021
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: first four weeks of the year, he's barely completing seventy

1022
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: percent of his passes after a start with he was

1023
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: completing eighty percent. Right, you look at the flip side,

1024
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: and yes, Tennessee they have a very good defense. They've

1025
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: been playing better. Last week they gave up eight sacks

1026
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: and Will Levis had a pick six, and they still

1027
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: beat Texans, who have a better quarterback than the Washington Commanders.

1028
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: And I do think that this is going to be

1029
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: the worst defense Will Levis has faced this season. And

1030
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 4: he has an opportunity here to be pressured a little

1031
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 4: bit less and get the ball, push the ball downfield,

1032
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 4: which is what he's really good at, and that's when

1033
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: he's most comfortable. So well as guys are with you,

1034
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 4: that's a sharp play.

1035
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people will watch this. I

1036
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 2: like the Texans minus four at the Jags I don't

1037
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: know what the Jags are playing for. I think that's

1038
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: a kind of a ugly, toxic locker room where people

1039
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: have bailed. I think the Texans off one of their

1040
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: worst performances of the year. It means a lot. They're

1041
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 2: playing for more. They're pissed off. They have an issue

1042
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: with protection guard center guard. But they've got just simply

1043
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: better players playing for more, and frankly, a better quarterback.

1044
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: If Trevor Lawrence plays, he's not close to one hundred percent.

1045
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: I think they have a coaching advantage, a coordinating advantage.

1046
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: This feels like my second favorite bet of the week.

1047
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Texans minus four at the

1048
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: Jag Sharper square.

1049
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: Well, I wish you hadn't said it was your second

1050
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 4: favorite favorite. The wise guys are all over the Jags

1051
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 4: in this game. They love the Jags. They've moved from

1052
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: five to four and a half to four.

1053
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

1054
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's an interesting one for me personally. I

1055
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: agree with you, it's a pass. I think the wise

1056
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: guys are looking at CJ. Stroud and thinking he's average.

1057
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: It's not that he's not progressing, it's that he's the

1058
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: protection's terrible, Like, well, he's playing like a normal quarterback right,

1059
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 4: and like his interception percentage was so low last year

1060
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: that it doubles this year, and all of a sudden

1061
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: it's at league average and everyone thinks, oh my god,

1062
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: there's something wrong with him. They're playing different defenses again,

1063
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: it's him, So his coverage is different, and he hasn't

1064
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: had his best players so and and the offensive line

1065
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 4: protection is terrible, truly terrible.

1066
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: You can tell he's letting go every thing a second

1067
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: early everything.

1068
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's also a gunslinger, right, Like he likes

1069
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 4: to let it go. He's not going to stop being aggressive.

1070
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: As he said last week, you got to shoot your shot.

1071
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: So I think that the wise guys are looking at

1072
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: this and saying division game on the road, JAG's last

1073
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: chance to make a stand. If Trevor Lawrence is playing,

1074
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: the sort of betting on the opportunity that he might

1075
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: be playing, and they thought the number was a little

1076
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: bit too high, so they're taking a piece of that

1077
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 4: while they can.

1078
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: I always have a gam every week. I want your expertise.

1079
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: So I think the Chargers are a better team than

1080
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: the Falcons, But I also think the Falcons are arrested.

1081
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: They're at home, and I think they're more explosive offensively.

1082
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: I feel like with the Chargers, and I've seen this

1083
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: now a couple of times this year, because they don't

1084
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: have playmakers. Quentin Johnson officially can't catch that. They score

1085
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: basically on big drives, nine play drives, ten play drives,

1086
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: eleven play drives. Well, you're asking for perfect football. You

1087
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: know Philadelphia can have penalties. Saquon Barkley up off a

1088
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: fifty seven yard er. AJ Brown over the top. You

1089
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: need freebies. You can't live on twelve play drives. And

1090
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: that's what the Chargers have to do. And the middle

1091
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: of their interior of their own line isn't good enough,

1092
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: so they get holding calls. They don't have receivers that separate.

1093
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the Sharps like Atlanta plus one at home.

1094
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: Back and forth. The line actually moved up from one

1095
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: and a half to to two and a half. And

1096
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: I think that the sentiment is that people are actually

1097
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: impressed with the Chargers and that the difference in that

1098
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: game against the Ravens was JK. Dobbins leaving the game

1099
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: and it completely changed the tenor. And you're right about

1100
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: the offensive line, especially the interior the offensive line. That's

1101
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: where the Ravens were getting pressure. The Falcons can't get pressure.

1102
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: They're not the Ravens. They really can't get any pressure

1103
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: at all, and so that's not expected to be factor

1104
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 4: for the Chargers. I will tell you it's it's sort

1105
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 4: of and not. A line has come back down, which

1106
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: tells you that the wise guys felt the line had

1107
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: gotten too high, and there's been some buyback. And by

1108
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: the way, this is a very common thing. There are

1109
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: a lot of professional betters who might like the Falcons

1110
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: and want the line to be a little bit different.

1111
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: So early in the week, what do they do. They

1112
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: bet on the Chargers, say five grand, ten grand whatever,

1113
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: move the line up, and then when it gets to

1114
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: a certain point, they bet fifty grand, sixty grand on

1115
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: the Falcons. Right, So they're paying a little bit of

1116
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: a premium to get the line to move so they

1117
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: can get better price on the team they really want.

1118
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: That could have happened this week.

1119
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1120
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: I haven't heard that, but it's possible. So there's no

1121
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: it's a long way of saying there's no real consensus

1122
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 4: here on what this game should.

1123
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Be okay, Chad, And there's always one that I missed.

1124
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: Seahawks at the Jets is interesting to me. I kind

1125
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: of like Kansas City, big favorite over the Raiders. I'll

1126
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: stay away. What's the one I missed?

1127
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: Well, look the wise guys like the Jets. I'm sorry

1128
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: to say. It's so interesting because on one New York team,

1129
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: you've got locker room turmoil, you've got quarterback intrigue, you've

1130
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: got players who are frustrated with the coaching. You've got

1131
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: an owner who is incredibly frustrated with how the personnel

1132
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: has sort of fleshed out. And then you've got another

1133
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: New York team where the owner is basically entering his

1134
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: Montgomery Burns phase. Right, he is taking a helicopter, landing

1135
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: it on the field. The GM is standing next to

1136
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: a coach when the helicopter lands and said, if I

1137
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: don't come back, it's been a pleasure to serve with you.

1138
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: And then the GM actually gets fired. And this is

1139
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: after the coach. The owner had fired the coach without

1140
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: telling anybody, and after the owner had traded for a

1141
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: receiver without telling anybody, and openly opine should we be

1142
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: bencing Annon Rodgers? And yet the wise guys, they've been

1143
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: betting the Giants, but they like the Jets a lot

1144
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: more against Seattle. I think part of it is like,

1145
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: this is the time to grab a number that is

1146
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: overinflated on Seattle as much as anything else. So they're

1147
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: on that. The wise guys. Of course they're going to

1148
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: be on the Raiders. It's not even it's not even

1149
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: a question. They were on the Raiders when the line

1150
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: was at thirteen and a half thirteen, twelve and a

1151
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: half twelve. It got that back up by the public

1152
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: because Aidan O'Connell was announced as the quarterback. The wise

1153
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: guys are now just going to wait see how much

1154
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: more they can, how much of a better price they

1155
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: can get between now and kickoff on Friday. They're gonna

1156
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 4: buy the Raiders. One team that I asked you to

1157
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: look at last week, Carolina.

1158
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Panthers work nine. What's the line?

1159
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: The line is six, So the Carolina they hosted the

1160
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1161
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: So the Carolina Panthers at home plus six against Tampa Bay. Yes, yes,

1162
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: well I mean Tampa. The wise guys like it. I

1163
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: don't say, well, Baker played perfect, So they come back

1164
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: down to Earth. I'll be honest with you. I think

1165
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: both Will Levis and Bryce Young for Tennessee and Carolina respectively,

1166
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: in a weak college quarterback draft class, have extended their

1167
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: starting franchise career one more year. I think Bryce Young

1168
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: and Will Levis looked like, now, let's give them another year.

1169
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: I think that's one hundred percent accurate, which is what

1170
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: Bryce Young has been the past few games. And so

1171
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: you know in that Kansas City game, he was throwing darts, yeah,

1172
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: and keeping them in the game, and every time you

1173
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 4: looked up, they were driving. And the Bucks defense it's

1174
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: not as good as Kansas City's. They're playing at home.

1175
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 4: Six points in the division is a ton. You're getting

1176
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: an inflation on the line because of what the Bucks

1177
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: just did to the Giants. So the wise guys like

1178
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: the Panthers. Look, I love the Panthers to start the year,

1179
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: and they burn me consecutive weeks. So I sort of

1180
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: stayed away from them and even publicly talking about them.

1181
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: I went back on them big last week, and I

1182
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: was glad that I did. I'm a little anxious going

1183
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: back to the Well and the Panthers again, but I

1184
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: have been the Panthers at plus six. I just feel

1185
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 4: like it's still.

1186
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: A right spot.

1187
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: It's going to change, but I'm hoping that it doesn't

1188
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: this week.

1189
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: So I don't throw your curves, but I want to

1190
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: talk USC Notre Dame. Notre Dame getting plus seven and

1191
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: a half so early in the week. I like Notre Dame.

1192
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard has cleaned up his game, no turnovers. They

1193
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: are a team that runs the football. USC not great

1194
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: defending the run, and I think they're well coached. I

1195
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: like their culture. USC is playing a quarterback who started

1196
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: the year on the bench, completes about fifty five percent

1197
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: of his throws. Much looser and mistake prone than Miller Moss,

1198
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: but more athletic. They can move the pocket, which Lincoln

1199
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: Riley historically likes. USC's got some really nice perimeter weapons.

1200
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: They're at home, no pressure, I mean, I mean, and

1201
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: I think USC. They beat LSU, they beat UCLA, and

1202
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: they had Penn State beat They're not bad. Every USC

1203
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: game looks the exact same. It's close, they lead in

1204
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: the fourth, then they even lose to Maryland. So my

1205
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: take is I've gone back and said, you know what,

1206
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose, But I'm taking the hook. I'm taking

1207
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: USC plus seven and a half. What are the sharp

1208
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: saying on that?

1209
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're getting the hook at home, you should

1210
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: be taking it. That's sort of the tipping point in

1211
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: a game like this. The challenge with everything you've said

1212
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: is the College Football Playoff. Notre Dame is now fifth

1213
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: in the College Football Playoff rankings. Every game, every win,

1214
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 4: every margin of victory, every op dick is going to

1215
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 4: matter going forward. And I know, like they're locked in

1216
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: with Oregon and Penn State and Ohio State and Texas,

1217
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 4: like those are the teams that the College Football Playoff

1218
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: is really thinking about as one through four. But Notre

1219
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: Dame is still playing for something that matters in terms

1220
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 4: of positioning with the people with the teams behind them.

1221
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: So that's what scares me a little bit about this

1222
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 4: game and USC. You're not wrong, but some of these

1223
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: games you're talking about they were earlier in the year

1224
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: and they were a different team, and there's been a

1225
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: lot of turmoil with that organization the past month, between

1226
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 4: the changing and the quarterbacks, between the fines, you know, people,

1227
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 4: the recruits who have been decommitting and going to other places.

1228
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: You know that USC team and culture much better than

1229
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 4: I do. But that feels like an organization where they

1230
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: need this to be a competitive game in a different

1231
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: way than Notre Dame does. And Notre Dame is playing

1232
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: for something right now that feels much much bigger to

1233
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 4: me than what USC is playing for. I'm waffling here.

1234
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: You take the hook, but it's not a game I

1235
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: want any piece.

1236
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: Of all right, that's fair. Yeah, it's funny about this

1237
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: transfer portal. Colorado, LSU, and USC have used it a lot,

1238
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: and all three of them the season's always end disappointing.

1239
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: Why because, in my opinion, this is one of my

1240
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: theories that you can use the transfer portal to plug holes.

1241
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: It's very hard to build a culture with all the

1242
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: interlopers and newcomers, and so what happens over the course

1243
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: of a season at USC, LSU, and Colorado when you

1244
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: face adversity is when you need a great culture. And

1245
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: they have better talent, but they don't have great cultures.

1246
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: They don't have guys that have been together for four

1247
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: years since high school, and so LSU, Colorado USC heavy

1248
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: transfer portal, whereas a Notre Dame very little transfer portal,

1249
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: great culture with Marcus Freeman, they had an early loss

1250
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: that was awful. They've gotten stronger because their culture is better.

1251
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 2: So you look at these teams that had early setbacks,

1252
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: and setbacks can splinter locker rooms, and these heavy transfer

1253
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: portal teams, they all get bad at the end of

1254
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: the season. A lot of people start going their own way.

1255
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: The nil guys are looking at the pros so Ole Miss,

1256
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: by the way, everybody loves Old Miss. Yeah, what happens

1257
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: against an inferior Florida team they don't play well. Guys

1258
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: now are going to start heading in their own directions.

1259
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: So that's what I think I've found from the transfer portal.

1260
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: I can think two things. I like it, but I

1261
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to build around it. It's important, but I

1262
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: don't want it to be my primary infrastructure.

1263
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you an example that supports both

1264
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 4: sides of your theory. Indiana Hoosiers, who I went to Indiana. Yeah,

1265
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: I love him. I've been so excited for this team

1266
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: all year. Obviously, heavy Portalnetti, they used the transfer portal heavily,

1267
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 4: But what they did was they basically took the entire

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Speaker 4: team from James Madison and plugged them in. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it worked for them. But the reason it worked for

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Speaker 4: them is because they maintained a culture that existed with

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Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti from where he was before and then brought

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Speaker 4: it to Bloomington. And that's translated in a very successful way.

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Speaker 4: And what's more interesting to me also about this is

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Speaker 4: I think there is an opportunity for teams like Indiana,

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Speaker 4: who have been middling teams to get the fourth fifth

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Speaker 4: year seniors who want to keep playing college football. They

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Speaker 4: might not be great NFL players, but they're incredibly effective, productive,

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Speaker 4: workman like college football players, and they're adults. So instead

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Speaker 4: of the sophomore five star who's not getting any playing

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Speaker 4: time in his transferring from Texas to Ole Miss, they're

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Speaker 4: getting the fourth year mac quarterback who was really good

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Speaker 4: and is time to see if he can stretch his

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Speaker 4: game to the next level. And he's an adult, and

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Speaker 4: that's just a different kind of player in college football.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying now Indiana has a ceiling on this.

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Speaker 4: We saw it against Ohio State. You got to get

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Speaker 4: athletes and people on the edge and all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff. But I think you can build a really

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Speaker 4: successful program through the portal if you're getting guys who

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Speaker 4: are just great college football players and not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: The volume