WEBVTT - HR1: Draft Week 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.720 This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.200 on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.119 and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.760 Welcome to Draft week on the Drive. It's Dale Lolly 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.480 and Matt Williamson and it is the week of the Draft. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.440 Matt and as such, Mike Tomlin Omar Kahn held their 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.360 pre draft press conference today. No information was passed. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.200 So this is our favorite guy in the old draft, 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.159 We're trade up for him. Yeah, yeah, none of that. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.479 How that went, Yeah, although they did once again. 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.760 Omar con said once again that they have internal options 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.720 at the center position. You know, he was asked specifically, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.440 you know, specific questions about about that position. He says, Look, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.320 we have internal options at the center position. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.160 No one seems to recognize that. You know, Daniels, Herbig 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.440 Anderson are all center capable. I guess, yeah, right, you 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.200 know that they all can do it and not just 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.360 on the side. You know, maybe they could major in it, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.000 you know, I mean that's a possibility. And I do 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.520 think a lot of people who overreact to the center situation. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.160 It makes me a little crazy. It's almost like if 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.039 the Steelers don't use a twentieth pick on Barton or 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.319 powers Johnson or get Frasier in the second round. The 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:24.960 season's over. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.440 Yeah, I mean there's there's quite going on. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.360 Yeah, I mean, like there's other positions. I look at 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.880 the wide receiver and be like, there's not internal options there? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.160 Tell me where the nickel corner is? Right right right? 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.000 There's there are situations, there are spots on this team 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.760 that I look at and go, yeah, but that's a 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:41.319 bigger need. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.560 Yeah, like that, you can't really run it back with 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.679 what you got now. I'm sure they will address an 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.000 inter your alignment. I mean, sure that's going to happen. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.840 But the town's god given right to have dirt Dawson 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.320 Webby to me or Pouncy is a little mind boggling, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.440 like anytime I put out of the mock draft or 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.200 the thought of using the twentieth pick on a tackle. Yeah, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.600 but who's going to snap the ball? Someone's going to 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.160 snap the ball, like put a dis way like that. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.680 The offensive doesn't start until the ball snapped, which it doesn't, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.000 but someone's going to do it. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.280 Whatever they do at center this year, is it going 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.480 to be worse than what they did last year at center? 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:19.960 Probably not? 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:20.720 Probably not. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.639 I mean at least the plan will be better. I mean, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.760 they could have five injuries there, of course, but right, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.320 I mean, to me, worst case scenario is calling Mason 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.200 cole back and running it back. Yeah, you know, but 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:31.600 that competition. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.680 That would lead down to the question, well, why didn't 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.560 they make that move last year? If Coal was so bad, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.920 why didn't they move herbig to center? Last year? And 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.680 you don't make those aren't moves that you make in season. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.160 That's what you know. You and I talked about Connor 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.920 Williams a lot, and that's another option, right, it's one 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.240 more part of the equation. But you don't want to 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.360 make a center change in the middle of the season either. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.799 I mean a guard change would be easier. Still, continuity 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.240 on the O line is unbelievably important. You had young 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.960 quarterbacks in there. It wasn't like Ben. You know that 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.400 he'll make up for the new center or whatever. Center 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.440 is really an important job. I say this all the time, 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.360 saying this for twenty years, and I talk as cheapause 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.560 I don't know if it's true, but I've bet I 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.080 bet if you bet against a team that's lost their 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.680 starting center, whether he's good or bad, I bet you 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.000 make money in the betting community. I mean, they're really 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.639 important from more than just blocking and snapping, you. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.000 Know, yeah, just right, right right, that kind of thing. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.720 But but it rocks the whole apple cart when you 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.359 have a new center. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.080 Yeah, you know they have something up their sleeve there. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.000 I bet they've thought about it to some day. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.280 They've got they've got a pretty good idea of what 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.280 their what their plan is going to be. Because here's 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:50.080 here's the thing about the draft. Chicago controls what it's 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.920 going to do with the first pick right. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.320 Right, and if we assume Williams is off the board, Washington, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.080 Washington controls a pretty good they have a pretty good 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.400 idea of what they're going to do right this time. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.680 At this point, they probably know what they're going to do. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.800 I would hope after that everybody else is there. You're 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.080 kind of at to wait and see. Yeah, you have 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.320 to wait and see what's available to you. Yeah, even 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.320 at three, the Patriots don't they don't know what Washington's 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:14.680 gonna do. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.479 No, or Minnesota is even a better example, Like we 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.960 would love to make this trade now to get up 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.320 and get our quarterback, but I have to know which 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.080 guy I'm getting you right, I mean I have to 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:25.920 wait until the clock. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.000 You're not just moving up to get a quarterback. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.920 Yeah. And to be honest, I think Washington and the 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.680 league as a whole have done a really good job 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.520 of not letting secrets out this year. I know that 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.960 the league is stressed that they want people to watch 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.320 be tuned in for when the big trade happens. Like 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.920 they don't even want the Niners trade when they trade 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.320 up for trade lance, like that happened well before, yeah, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.279 because you know, was it mac Jones or Lance? But 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.520 the trade had already happened. You know, you already knew 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.600 that they had moved up. They are taking a quarterback. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.000 They weren't as much intrigue as possible. And it's new ownership, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.159 new GM and Washington, and to their credit, they've up 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.479 their cards really close to the vest, you know. So 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.120 now we're all waiting on that. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.039 It gives your I mean, if you're the franchise, you 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.760 want some intrigue, you know, you don't want you want 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.719 fans to be excited about who you're going to pick. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.919 Oh yeah, you know, and talking about it, because if 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.599 they're talking about it, especially if you're a franchise, like 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.360 Washington that's been a little downtrodden. Oh yeah, people are 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.600 actually talking about the Washington Commanders. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.080 Yeah, I'm gonna buy that jersey a second comes, you know, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.440 I'm gonna go get my season tickets. I'm not selling 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.040 them this year or whatever. I mean, that team has 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.560 been in the duldrums in a big way. Now, none 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.440 of that really affects the Steelers. I mean by a 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.520 matter of Drake may goes two or four, or if 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.839 Daniels goes two or three, or McCarthy goes three or four. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:43.720 But in a way it does. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.400 But in a way it does because then Minnesota's got 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.039 their picks in front of that they move up or not. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.120 I mean, there's talking about the Raiders wanting to move up. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.440 There's somebody want one of the other quarterbacks, you know, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.400 and there's there's all kinds of dominoes that have to 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.400 fall there. And so when you're picking at twenty, you really, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.280 you know, you're at it. You don't know what you're 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:05.720 gonna get. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.599 You're just you're gonna get. And we did mine last week. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.279 You know, my top twenty. You said you had fiddled 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.359 with one too, Yes, you know, so that's like worst 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.800 case scenario, like your twentieth player, things have to that 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.200 has to be the most disastrous. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.560 Guess, things had to go really bad. You get your 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.320 twentieth player when you have the twentieth pick. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.719 If you're the twentieth pick. I mean, so if you 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.760 look at it through that lens of I'm going to 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.080 get this guy or better, you know, like okay, or 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.080 if I trade down three spots, I'm still going to 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.120 get this guy or better, you know. I mean, like. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.320 Okay, you know, as con said today, they're not going 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.600 to trade away. It's gonna be awfully difficult to trade 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:41.599 away from a good player. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.200 Yeah, I totally get that. I mean, if Fatanu for Waga. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.920 Unless you've got five other guys on your board, you're 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.640 trading down to twenty four and you know you're going 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.679 to get one of those guys. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.920 Simple math. Yeah, as long as you're board that you 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.400 trust your board, it's simple math. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.080 You want to go you want to go over to listen? Yeah, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.920 all right, So I got Harris should do it kind 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:58.960 of the same way I did. I mean, did you 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.760 include the quarter I didn't include the quarterbacks. I got 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.520 Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.080 They were my top two non quarterbacks rom okay, Joe 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.480 Alt four, Okay j C. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:12.320 Latham five. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.240 Yeah, I would did you even kick that around about 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.000 maybe even swipping them, swapping them maybe? 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.480 But if All was there, he's just he seems so 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:22.720 he's a left tackle. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.520 Yeah, yeah, to play right and everybody. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:30.600 Be happy, right Telasi Fuaga six, Troy Fatanu seven, okay 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.800 O eight, And I would play him at left tackle. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.360 Yeah. I think he's the one you have to play 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.680 at left. Yeah, I mean Fatan who they've obviously had 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.920 a conversation. Would you go to right if you were 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.440 pittsfordh Steeler? The answer is yes or no. I don't know. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.600 You know, yeah, you just try him and yeah, who's better? 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.640 You don't have to set it in stone you first 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:51.760 day of mini camp either. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.920 At nine, I have Terry and. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.080 Arnold And this is when it starts to get sticked. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.000 I have Arnold at nine ahead of the other cornerbacks, 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.440 or at least I had a Quenya Mitchell there because 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.520 I know he can play the slot. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.040 Yeah. I figured that was a tiebreaker for you, like 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.280 in a vacuum. I think I'd rather Mitchell than Arnold 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.840 if I'm team right, you know that doesn't I don't 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.800 care about needs. He's my first pick, you know, in 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.320 a vacuum. But I get that point, you know. I mean, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.520 and I also think Arnold would fit here really well. Yeah, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.160 it's beginning his career as a slot maybe still never 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.320 come off the field, right, you. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.200 Know, I have Mitchell next, then I have the Gene. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:29.600 Okay, I get it. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.559 That was how I you know, I just that's the 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.920 way I felt about it. At twelve, I have Amarus Mims. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:41.160 Okay, Jeene versus Mems has always been tough for Yeah. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.680 Uh. At thirteen, I have Graham Barton after Mems. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.600 Okay, I've been fiddling with my list and I've been 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.200 moving the centers down a little bit. See I could. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.559 I'm going to have Barton there because I think he can. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.240 He can play right tackle for you if you had 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:54.520 you know. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.800 People don't think about this stuff too. I mean, and 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.720 we've tried to lay it out, but even like Fatan, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.760 who fits this mold too. With Barton is they're gonna 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.840 be here for four or five, eight years or whatever. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.679 They may not be a center the whole time. They 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.000 might not be a right tackle. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.640 Though Connor Williams wasn't a center exactly right, exactly. I 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.240 have Brian Thomas at fourteen, Donnie Mitchell at fifteen. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.600 I had them next to each other, but Thomas clearly 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.280 above Mitchell. Do you agree with that? Yeah, yeah, I 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.640 mean they have similar usage and all that. I just 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:26.560 trust Thomas more. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.160 I had Jackson powers Johnson at sixteen. I put brock 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.920 Bauers in at seventeen, even though I just I would 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.560 just figure it out. Oh and I probably should have 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.640 had higher, but again that's a weird problem, and I 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.200 don't think they're gonna have it. I don't know, but yeah, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.200 but if it so happened that he lasted the year. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.920 I wouldn't run to the podium if Fluaga or Latham 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.240 was there over Bowers, but I would over Dejene and 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:58.080 Mims and the receivers. And but it probably won't matter. Yeah. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:02.199 At eighteen, I have Tyler Goyiton nineteen, kool Aid McKinstry 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.359 twenty eight. Wiggins gotcha, And I think that's because McKinstry 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.640 is a better fit for their defense than I believe 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:11.200 Wiggins is. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.559 So we basically were very similar. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:14.760 You know. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.320 I had four quarterbacks mixed in there, so guys like 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.240 McKinstry were twenty four or twenty five or whatever. I 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.520 didn't include any edge, so any edge I didn't need. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.200 Yeah, you know, I mean no edge, no defensive line 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.040 I did. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.040 I put Newton and Murphy in. There's a point where 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.000 I would take them over. I think I take both 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:35.120 over McKinstry right now. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.280 See, I just don't know where they I don't know 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.319 how they fit in the defense. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.000 I don't either. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.320 Somebody we did the triple take last week where we 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.160 did our three round mock draft. Yeah, Steelers dot Com 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.760 and somebody put on the there. They have to take 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.640 a defensive lineman. They need the next cam Cam Hayward. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.440 So why wouldn't they take Murphy from from Texas. I'm like, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.920 he's six foot tall in two hundred and eighty five pounds. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.200 He's not a Cam Hayward replacements. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.600 No, see. I I try to be as transparent as 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.160 possible with him and Newton because Newton's a little bigger, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.880 but they're both the same style. They're not Dick Lebo 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.920 has no use for those guys, right, you know, I 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.120 just don't know if the twenty twenty four Steelers do 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.640 or not and how much do they value them, because 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.360 I don't think Ogunjobi would have been on a Dick 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.880 Lebo defense. I know Leal would not have been, you know, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.160 but it's hard to find them, you, I mean almost 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.760 have to draft them. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.320 I do know that I want to spend a first 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.840 round pick, though, on a guy who's not Leel was 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.000 a third round pick exactly. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.880 Joby was late in free agency he got them. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.920 after a cheaper deal, right yeah, in the perfect world. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.680 I think they want noses in d ND. Still, I 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.200 just don't know it one hundred percent. Yeah, you know, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:42.920 I think that's becoming. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.400 I mean, if they still had stuff on to it, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.640 they wouldn't have Larry Ogunjobi right now. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.240 Of course, of course, of course, So an interesting one 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.040 to me too is again I agree with everything you 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.520 said ninety eight percent of it what he said like, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.200 but like Wiggins is interesting to me, Like I know 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.040 they need a slot, but I just know six to 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.160 one corners that run four to three and are shut 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:08.719 down coverage. Guys don't grow on trees, you know, I like, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.920 I hear you, Like, if if any team took that 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.240 guy at seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty I would just be like. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.840 I would get it. Yeah, I would get it. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:18.880 They're hard to find. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.360 But he's also one hundred and seventy three pounds exactly, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:21.640 you know. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.120 Exactly, you know. I mean, I I worry because we 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.480 talked through this stuff so much that I get too 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.560 much in the mindset of they need this, this, this 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.960 and this, but they need a circle, they need a square, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.440 they need a diamond or whatever. But then there's this 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.719 beautiful hexagon that you can't find anywhere else. And you 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.400 know what I mean, So that this time of year, 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.440 I try to take a step back again and be like, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.640 am I rutted too much in my Steeler needs here 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.240 or not? You know? But now I hear you one 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.760 hundred percent. Yeah, So I. 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.440 Just you know, to me, I think you're looking at 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.880 an opportunity for the Steelers more than nikely to get 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.400 a chance to pick somebody it picks being at fifteen 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.920 let's say seven, seven to fifteen, somewhere in that range 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:09.920 on that list. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.160 Yeah, which again I always get a kick out of 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.760 any GM doesn't be the Steelers comes to the podium 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.559 and be like, we had him really high on our 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.120 list and they took him twenty fifth overall, well, they're 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.080 not lying to you. I mean, if their list is 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.600 constructed like this, which I think every team should do 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.800 to as many as you feel comfortable, whether it's twenty 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.000 or even more. You know, if there's a just mis guy, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.960 make it twenty one, there's two just miss guys, make 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.680 it twenty two, you know whatever, and you take your 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.120 seventh guy on that board, which would you say, seven 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.319 or eight was like Fogga or I mean somebody that. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.400 Six was Foega, seven was Fatano? 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.280 Okay, I mean that could happen. Yeah, I mean, like 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.679 if you ended up at twenty with or even if 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.720 you trade up to eighteen and you took your sixth 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:53.280 rank guy. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.360 You know, if four quarterbacks go or five quarter let's 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.600 say five quarterbacks go. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:57.760 Good. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.800 Let's say both defensive linemen. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.319 Go, and I'm sure Dallas Turner's have be gone to 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.080 let's say. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.080 Two of the edge rushers going. Now you're already up 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:05.920 to like ten players. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.079 I said, I think it's safe to say six to 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.640 eight not on your list will be named before number twenty. Yeah, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.119 I mean, including the quarterbacks. Certainly four quarterbacks. 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.640 Yeah, no, no, you know it's it becomes one of 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600 those guys that is on this list will be a 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.080 Pittsburgh Steeler Thursday night. I'm sure I don't think that 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.280 they're going to draft somebody who's not on this list. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.520 I bet not, and I would be perfectly comfortable with 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.040 any of them. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.560 That's the thing. Not every year can you get the 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:37.640 twenty Oh. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.680 Yeah, there'd be a lot of years you'd be like, ah, man, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.400 who these last five? 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.360 I hope it doesn't go that Wayeah boy, I hope 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.920 you know, some some position that we're not into gets 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.600 hit a little heavier than we needed, or you know, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.360 something like that. And then, frankly, that's probably happened many 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.280 times through Kevin Colbert's career. When you're picking twenty five, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.480 eight thirty right right right, and you're in the second round. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:14:59.720 World. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.920 Yeah. The crazy thing is is two of their best 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.880 draft picks in the last you know, since twenty ten 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.240 came at the end of the first round. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:09.920 What Hayward? 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.200 They are just complete another steals like nobody talks about it. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.280 They talked about them. Oh they missed on that guy 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.760 they got You got t J. Watt and Cam Hayward. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.200 You got t J. Watt in the same draft. That 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.440 Miles Garrett went first. You got what at the end 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.920 of the round twenty five picture players, you know what 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:26.240 I mean? 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:27.480 Thirty picks later. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.560 Thirty picks later. Yeah, and Cam Hayward worked out all 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.080 right too, Yeah as it you know, of course, no, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.160 but I think that exercise is great and I urge 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.360 everyone to do it. It's hard and you can really 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.840 rack your brain. Degene versus Mims versus Brian Thomas. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:40.960 Oh, that's it's not easy. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:42.840 I could make a huge case for any one of 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.720 those three. Yeah, you know, without question, they're very, very different. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.000 Brian Thomas would be really hard for me to pass on. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.200 But there's a lot of day two receivers that are 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.320 awfully attractive, right, Yeah, I mean that's it's a fun conversation, it. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.920 Really is, and that that's why, you know, I understand 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.200 why they do it. And you know, you know, if 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.000 you get to your you get to your pick. Let's 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:07.000 say you're picking at twenty and you're at twelve on 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.840 your list. Yeah, now you're feeling pretty good. Hey, we 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.880 can we can move back. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:15.720 We can move back, I like, And there's certainly spots 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.560 on that list that you'd rather hit than the end 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.440 of course. But you're never gonna get to the end 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.400 of twenty. I mean we know that. I mean, you're 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.440 never gonna get to the twentieth. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.320 Guy, even if you trade it back to thirty two, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.000 you probably don't get off this list. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.920 Yeah, I get twenty yeah exactly. That's like. Boy. Now 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.720 the Bills are a good example. They were they picking 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.200 twenty seven. Yeah, I think they're even later. There might 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.320 be twenty eight. If they offer you an unbelievable deal, 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:38.880 you're gonna get one of those names. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:39.520 Yeah. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.360 I mean you're gonna end up with kool Aid or 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.120 something like that. Okay, okay, because I got so much 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.480 other stuff, I can get it. And I'm sure when 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.080 you do these lists it's probably smart at some point, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.560 maybe draw a line under Vashanu or something like that. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.040 Like if one of these guys is there were picking, Yeah, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.280 like this is you stick and pick you're happy with. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.480 This is the area where if somebody offers me an 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.240 extra second round draft pick, no, I'm interested. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.480 I'm in yeah, And that's all the conversations teams are 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.440 having right now because that's it to do in day 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.480 two and stuff. But you also kind of get pockets. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:14.720 We've done. I don't know, one hundred mock drafts. Yeah, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.120 it's always good to have that extra pick. That's where 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.760 you get to, you know, that that defensive lineman that 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.200 you want. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.800 Yeah, because yeah, you know, you've been back to the 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.399 comments section. I went back to the comments that I 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.840 always get about centers. You know, don't go giving me 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.160 the South Dakota State dude because he's guard and last 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.199 time they tried it was Kendrick Green. That's never gonna work. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.520