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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Draft week on the Drive. It's Dale Lolly

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Speaker 2: and Matt Williamson and it is the week of the Draft.

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Speaker 2: Matt and as such, Mike Tomlin Omar Kahn held their

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Speaker 2: pre draft press conference today. No information was passed.

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Speaker 3: So this is our favorite guy in the old draft,

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Speaker 3: We're trade up for him. Yeah, yeah, none of that.

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Speaker 3: How that went, Yeah, although they did once again.

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Speaker 2: Omar con said once again that they have internal options

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Speaker 2: at the center position. You know, he was asked specifically,

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Speaker 2: you know, specific questions about about that position. He says, Look,

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Speaker 2: we have internal options at the center position.

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Speaker 3: No one seems to recognize that. You know, Daniels, Herbig

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Speaker 3: Anderson are all center capable. I guess, yeah, right, you

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Speaker 3: know that they all can do it and not just

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Speaker 3: on the side. You know, maybe they could major in it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's a possibility. And I do

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people who overreact to the center situation.

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Speaker 3: It makes me a little crazy. It's almost like if

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Speaker 3: the Steelers don't use a twentieth pick on Barton or

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Speaker 3: powers Johnson or get Frasier in the second round. The

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Speaker 3: season's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's there's quite going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like there's other positions. I look at

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Speaker 3: the wide receiver and be like, there's not internal options there?

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Speaker 2: Tell me where the nickel corner is? Right right right?

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Speaker 2: There's there are situations, there are spots on this team

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Speaker 2: that I look at and go, yeah, but that's a

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Speaker 2: bigger need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that, you can't really run it back with

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Speaker 3: what you got now. I'm sure they will address an

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Speaker 3: inter your alignment. I mean, sure that's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But the town's god given right to have dirt Dawson

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Speaker 3: Webby to me or Pouncy is a little mind boggling,

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Speaker 3: like anytime I put out of the mock draft or

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Speaker 3: the thought of using the twentieth pick on a tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but who's going to snap the ball? Someone's going to

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Speaker 3: snap the ball, like put a dis way like that.

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Speaker 3: The offensive doesn't start until the ball snapped, which it doesn't,

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Speaker 3: but someone's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Whatever they do at center this year, is it going

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Speaker 2: to be worse than what they did last year at center?

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Speaker 3: Probably not?

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: I mean at least the plan will be better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they could have five injuries there, of course, but right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, worst case scenario is calling Mason

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Speaker 3: cole back and running it back. Yeah, you know, but

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Speaker 3: that competition.

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Speaker 2: That would lead down to the question, well, why didn't

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Speaker 2: they make that move last year? If Coal was so bad,

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Speaker 2: why didn't they move herbig to center? Last year? And

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Speaker 2: you don't make those aren't moves that you make in season.

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Speaker 3: That's what you know. You and I talked about Connor

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Speaker 3: Williams a lot, and that's another option, right, it's one

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Speaker 3: more part of the equation. But you don't want to

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Speaker 3: make a center change in the middle of the season either.

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Speaker 3: I mean a guard change would be easier. Still, continuity

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Speaker 3: on the O line is unbelievably important. You had young

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in there. It wasn't like Ben. You know that

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Speaker 3: he'll make up for the new center or whatever. Center

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Speaker 3: is really an important job. I say this all the time,

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Speaker 3: saying this for twenty years, and I talk as cheapause

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's true, but I've bet I

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Speaker 3: bet if you bet against a team that's lost their

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Speaker 3: starting center, whether he's good or bad, I bet you

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Speaker 3: make money in the betting community. I mean, they're really

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Speaker 3: important from more than just blocking and snapping, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, just right, right right, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: But but it rocks the whole apple cart when you

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Speaker 3: have a new center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they have something up their sleeve there.

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Speaker 3: I bet they've thought about it to some day.

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Speaker 2: They've got they've got a pretty good idea of what

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Speaker 2: their what their plan is going to be. Because here's

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Speaker 2: here's the thing about the draft. Chicago controls what it's

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Speaker 2: going to do with the first pick right.

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Speaker 3: Right, and if we assume Williams is off the board, Washington,

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Speaker 3: Washington controls a pretty good they have a pretty good

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Speaker 3: idea of what they're going to do right this time.

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Speaker 2: At this point, they probably know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: I would hope after that everybody else is there. You're

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Speaker 2: kind of at to wait and see. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 2: to wait and see what's available to you. Yeah, even

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Speaker 2: at three, the Patriots don't they don't know what Washington's

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Speaker 3: No, or Minnesota is even a better example, Like we

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Speaker 3: would love to make this trade now to get up

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Speaker 3: and get our quarterback, but I have to know which

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Speaker 3: guy I'm getting you right, I mean I have to

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Speaker 3: wait until the clock.

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Speaker 2: You're not just moving up to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And to be honest, I think Washington and the

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Speaker 3: league as a whole have done a really good job

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Speaker 3: of not letting secrets out this year. I know that

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Speaker 3: the league is stressed that they want people to watch

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Speaker 3: be tuned in for when the big trade happens. Like

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Speaker 3: they don't even want the Niners trade when they trade

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Speaker 3: up for trade lance, like that happened well before, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because you know, was it mac Jones or Lance? But

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Speaker 3: the trade had already happened. You know, you already knew

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Speaker 3: that they had moved up. They are taking a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They weren't as much intrigue as possible. And it's new ownership,

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Speaker 3: new GM and Washington, and to their credit, they've up

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Speaker 3: their cards really close to the vest, you know. So

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Speaker 3: now we're all waiting on that.

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Speaker 2: It gives your I mean, if you're the franchise, you

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Speaker 2: want some intrigue, you know, you don't want you want

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Speaker 2: fans to be excited about who you're going to pick.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, and talking about it, because if

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Speaker 2: they're talking about it, especially if you're a franchise, like

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Speaker 2: Washington that's been a little downtrodden. Oh yeah, people are

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Speaker 2: actually talking about the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna buy that jersey a second comes, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get my season tickets. I'm not selling

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Speaker 3: them this year or whatever. I mean, that team has

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Speaker 3: been in the duldrums in a big way. Now, none

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Speaker 3: of that really affects the Steelers. I mean by a

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Speaker 3: matter of Drake may goes two or four, or if

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Speaker 3: Daniels goes two or three, or McCarthy goes three or four.

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Speaker 2: But in a way it does.

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Speaker 3: But in a way it does because then Minnesota's got

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Speaker 3: their picks in front of that they move up or not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's talking about the Raiders wanting to move up.

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Speaker 2: There's somebody want one of the other quarterbacks, you know,

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Speaker 2: and there's there's all kinds of dominoes that have to

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Speaker 2: fall there. And so when you're picking at twenty, you really,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're at it. You don't know what you're

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Speaker 3: You're just you're gonna get. And we did mine last week.

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Speaker 3: You know, my top twenty. You said you had fiddled

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Speaker 3: with one too, Yes, you know, so that's like worst

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Speaker 3: case scenario, like your twentieth player, things have to that

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Speaker 3: has to be the most disastrous.

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Speaker 2: Guess, things had to go really bad. You get your

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Speaker 2: twentieth player when you have the twentieth pick.

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Speaker 3: If you're the twentieth pick. I mean, so if you

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Speaker 3: look at it through that lens of I'm going to

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Speaker 3: get this guy or better, you know, like okay, or

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Speaker 3: if I trade down three spots, I'm still going to

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Speaker 3: get this guy or better, you know. I mean, like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, as con said today, they're not going

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Speaker 2: to trade away. It's gonna be awfully difficult to trade

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Speaker 2: away from a good player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally get that. I mean, if Fatanu for Waga.

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Speaker 2: Unless you've got five other guys on your board, you're

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Speaker 2: trading down to twenty four and you know you're going

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Speaker 2: to get one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Simple math. Yeah, as long as you're board that you

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Speaker 3: trust your board, it's simple math.

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Speaker 2: You want to go you want to go over to listen? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, So I got Harris should do it kind

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Speaker 2: of the same way I did. I mean, did you

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Speaker 2: include the quarter I didn't include the quarterbacks. I got

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 3: They were my top two non quarterbacks rom okay, Joe

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Speaker 2: Latham five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would did you even kick that around about

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Speaker 3: maybe even swipping them, swapping them maybe?

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Speaker 2: But if All was there, he's just he seems so

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Speaker 2: he's a left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to play right and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Be happy, right Telasi Fuaga six, Troy Fatanu seven, okay

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Speaker 2: O eight, And I would play him at left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's the one you have to play

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Speaker 3: at left. Yeah, I mean Fatan who they've obviously had

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Speaker 3: a conversation. Would you go to right if you were

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Speaker 3: pittsfordh Steeler? The answer is yes or no. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you just try him and yeah, who's better?

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Speaker 3: You don't have to set it in stone you first

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Speaker 3: day of mini camp either.

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Speaker 2: At nine, I have Terry and.

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Speaker 3: Arnold And this is when it starts to get sticked.

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Speaker 2: I have Arnold at nine ahead of the other cornerbacks,

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Speaker 2: or at least I had a Quenya Mitchell there because

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Speaker 2: I know he can play the slot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I figured that was a tiebreaker for you, like

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Speaker 3: in a vacuum. I think I'd rather Mitchell than Arnold

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Speaker 3: if I'm team right, you know that doesn't I don't

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Speaker 3: care about needs. He's my first pick, you know, in

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Speaker 3: a vacuum. But I get that point, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I also think Arnold would fit here really well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's beginning his career as a slot maybe still never

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Speaker 3: come off the field, right, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I have Mitchell next, then I have the Gene.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: That was how I you know, I just that's the

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Speaker 2: way I felt about it. At twelve, I have Amarus Mims.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jeene versus Mems has always been tough for Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. At thirteen, I have Graham Barton after Mems.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've been fiddling with my list and I've been

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Speaker 3: moving the centers down a little bit. See I could.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have Barton there because I think he can.

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Speaker 2: He can play right tackle for you if you had

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: People don't think about this stuff too. I mean, and

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Speaker 3: we've tried to lay it out, but even like Fatan,

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Speaker 3: who fits this mold too. With Barton is they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be here for four or five, eight years or whatever.

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Speaker 3: They may not be a center the whole time. They

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Speaker 3: might not be a right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Though Connor Williams wasn't a center exactly right, exactly. I

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Speaker 2: have Brian Thomas at fourteen, Donnie Mitchell at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I had them next to each other, but Thomas clearly

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Speaker 3: above Mitchell. Do you agree with that? Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean they have similar usage and all that. I just

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Speaker 3: trust Thomas more.

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Speaker 2: I had Jackson powers Johnson at sixteen. I put brock

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Speaker 2: Bauers in at seventeen, even though I just I would

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Speaker 2: just figure it out. Oh and I probably should have

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Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna have it. I don't know, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: but if it so happened that he lasted the year.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't run to the podium if Fluaga or Latham

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Speaker 3: just don't know if the twenty twenty four Steelers do

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Speaker 3: Joby was late in free agency he got them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just don't know it one hundred percent. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that's becoming.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they still had stuff on to it,

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of course, So an interesting one

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Speaker 3: I hear you, Like, if if any team took that

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Speaker 2: I would get it. Yeah, I would get it.

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Speaker 3: They're hard to find.

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Speaker 2: But he's also one hundred and seventy three pounds exactly,

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know. I mean, I I worry because we

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Speaker 3: I try to take a step back again and be like,

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Speaker 3: am I rutted too much in my Steeler needs here

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Speaker 3: or not? You know? But now I hear you one

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Speaker 2: Just you know, to me, I think you're looking at

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Speaker 2: an opportunity for the Steelers more than nikely to get

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Speaker 2: a chance to pick somebody it picks being at fifteen

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Speaker 2: let's say seven, seven to fifteen, somewhere in that range

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which again I always get a kick out of

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Speaker 3: list and they took him twenty fifth overall, well, they're

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Speaker 3: constructed like this, which I think every team should do

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Speaker 3: or even more. You know, if there's a just mis guy,

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Speaker 3: make it twenty one, there's two just miss guys, make

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Speaker 3: it twenty two, you know whatever, and you take your

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Speaker 3: seventh guy on that board, which would you say, seven

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Speaker 3: or eight was like Fogga or I mean somebody that.

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Speaker 2: Six was Foega, seven was Fatano?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that could happen. Yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 3: if you ended up at twenty with or even if

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Speaker 2: You know, if four quarterbacks go or five quarter let's

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Speaker 2: say five quarterbacks go.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: Let's say both defensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: Go, and I'm sure Dallas Turner's have be gone to

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Speaker 3: let's say.

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Speaker 2: Two of the edge rushers going. Now you're already up

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Speaker 2: to like ten players.

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Speaker 3: I said, I think it's safe to say six to

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Speaker 3: eight not on your list will be named before number twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, including the quarterbacks. Certainly four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you know it's it becomes one of

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Speaker 2: those guys that is on this list will be a

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steeler Thursday night. I'm sure I don't think that

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Speaker 2: they're going to draft somebody who's not on this list.

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Speaker 2: I bet not, and I would be perfectly comfortable with

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Speaker 2: any of them.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. Not every year can you get the

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Speaker 3: twenty Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there'd be a lot of years you'd be like, ah, man,

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Speaker 2: who these last five?

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Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't go that Wayeah boy, I hope

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Speaker 3: something like that. And then, frankly, that's probably happened many

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Speaker 3: times through Kevin Colbert's career. When you're picking twenty five,

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Speaker 3: eight thirty right right right, and you're in the second round.

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Speaker 1: World.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The crazy thing is is two of their best

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Speaker 2: draft picks in the last you know, since twenty ten

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Speaker 2: came at the end of the first round.

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Speaker 3: What Hayward?

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Speaker 2: They are just complete another steals like nobody talks about it.

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Speaker 2: They talked about them. Oh they missed on that guy

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Speaker 2: they got You got t J. Watt and Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 3: You got t J. Watt in the same draft. That

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett went first. You got what at the end

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Speaker 3: of the round twenty five picture players, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Thirty picks later.

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Speaker 3: Thirty picks later. Yeah, and Cam Hayward worked out all

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Speaker 3: right too, Yeah as it you know, of course, no,

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Speaker 3: but I think that exercise is great and I urge

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Speaker 3: everyone to do it. It's hard and you can really

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Speaker 3: rack your brain. Degene versus Mims versus Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's it's not easy.

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Speaker 3: I could make a huge case for any one of

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Speaker 3: those three. Yeah, you know, without question, they're very, very different.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas would be really hard for me to pass on.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of day two receivers that are

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Speaker 3: awfully attractive, right, Yeah, I mean that's it's a fun conversation, it.

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Speaker 2: Really is, and that that's why, you know, I understand

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Speaker 2: you get to your you get to your pick. Let's

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Speaker 2: say you're picking at twenty and you're at twelve on

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Speaker 2: your list. Yeah, now you're feeling pretty good. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: can we can move back.

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Speaker 3: We can move back, I like, And there's certainly spots

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Speaker 3: on that list that you'd rather hit than the end

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Speaker 3: of course. But you're never gonna get to the end

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Speaker 3: of twenty. I mean we know that. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: Guy, even if you trade it back to thirty two,

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Speaker 2: you probably don't get off this list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get twenty yeah exactly. That's like. Boy. Now

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Speaker 3: the Bills are a good example. They were they picking

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Speaker 3: twenty seven. Yeah, I think they're even later. There might

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Speaker 3: be twenty eight. If they offer you an unbelievable deal,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get one of those names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're gonna end up with kool Aid or

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Speaker 3: something like that. Okay, okay, because I got so much

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Speaker 3: other stuff, I can get it. And I'm sure when

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Speaker 3: you do these lists it's probably smart at some point,

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Speaker 3: maybe draw a line under Vashanu or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Like if one of these guys is there were picking, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like this is you stick and pick you're happy with.

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Speaker 2: This is the area where if somebody offers me an

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Speaker 2: extra second round draft pick, no, I'm interested.

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Speaker 3: I'm in yeah, And that's all the conversations teams are

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Speaker 3: two and stuff. But you also kind of get pockets.

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Speaker 2: We've done. I don't know, one hundred mock drafts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's always good to have that extra pick. That's where

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Speaker 2: you get to, you know, that that defensive lineman that

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, you know, you've been back to the

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Speaker 3: comments section. I went back to the comments that I

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Speaker 3: always get about centers. You know, don't go giving me

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Speaker 3: time they tried it was Kendrick Green. That's never gonna work.

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Speaker 3: You got to use a first round pick on a center, Well,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna have something. You know. You said something

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Speaker 3: well you're gonna be short something important.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have a defensive lineman this year or

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver that plays almost every snap? Yeah, you know, I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: D lineman, don't get me wrong, if that guy's that

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Speaker 3: much better. But that's a balancing act. And our mocks

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Speaker 3: are great. But we never trade up in round two,

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Speaker 3: three before five, right, and we certainly could after acquiring

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Speaker 3: more picks too. Oh yeah, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like we never use Sometimes people criticize you guys trade

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it. We would have traded up for

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Speaker 3: At least made it the call. Yeah right, and hey,

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Speaker 2: We just picked up what we're doing these on radio,

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Speaker 2: and get to do it. That's fast and if we

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Speaker 2: if we did it slowly, if I'm sitting at home,

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Speaker 2: I've done that, you know, and done is slow and

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Speaker 2: get that.

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Speaker 3: At least poke around in this neighborhood. Yeah. See, you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale, Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And

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Speaker 2: Matt Jordan Reid has put together his seven round mock

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Speaker 2: draft for this for this thing.

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Speaker 3: Every year there's more seven rounders. I mean it's fun

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Speaker 3: that way. Yeah, I guess. I mean everyone's super into it,

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Speaker 3: which is really cool. But man, I would never want

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Speaker 3: to do a seven.

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Speaker 2: We'll buzz through the first round here and then we'll

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Speaker 2: hit the Steeler picks after that. Caleb Williams at one,

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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels at two, Drake Mayott three. At four, Marvin

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Speaker 2: Harrison to the Cardinals they stay, stick and pick. At five,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers stick and pick.

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Speaker 3: Really they take Joe All Betake Alt. I could see

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Speaker 3: horribad just loving Alt. Yeah, you know it's six. The

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Speaker 3: Giants take Malik Neighbors. Di'd be pretty happy about that.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy didn't go yet though, No, well, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they'd pass on the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: At seven, the Titans take Roma Doun Jam.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they didn't take Joe Old at least for something.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was gone.

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Speaker 3: I know. That's the only mok I've never seen them

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Speaker 3: take all at eight.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings trade up with the Falcons to come up

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Speaker 2: and get McCarthy. They give up eleven one O eight.

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Speaker 2: That's the Falcons for pick eight. Did you only move

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Speaker 2: on up three spots in it?

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Speaker 3: Minnesota? That's good stuff. Yeah. So side note, I heard

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Speaker 3: Michaelmbardi talking about this a couple of days ago. There's

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Speaker 3: still a penalty to come down for Atlanta on the

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Speaker 3: tampering charges. Yes, cousin, and some of the speculation is

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Speaker 3: they're just going to swap eight and eleven as a penalty.

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Speaker 3: How crazy would that be?

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Speaker 2: That would be pretty cool. I can't imagine that happening.

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Speaker 2: The league doing that get something for it, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: they haven't done that before.

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Speaker 3: Benefit.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are also looking at some kind of penalty

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Speaker 2: for tampering with Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: So both those are going to happen before Thursday.

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Speaker 2: It's more likely that they lose a pick. You don't,

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Speaker 2: They don't always, they don't typically give the other team

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Speaker 2: a pick.

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Speaker 3: I know, that's the one thing I thought was odd too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know. So they come up to get Jay McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: I mean at that price. Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At nine, Chicago takes Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 3: That's not so bad for them, right yeah.

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Speaker 2: At ten, brock Bowers to the Jets. Okay, it just

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Speaker 2: makes it just makes so much sense, it does, it does.

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Speaker 2: At eleven, the Falcons take after trading down layout too

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Speaker 2: lay two.

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Speaker 3: Right, assuming his neck checks out, I think that's where

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Speaker 3: he should go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. The Eagles then trade up to twelve.

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Speaker 3: I think they could be a trade up team.

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Speaker 2: They give up to go to twelve for a corner

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Speaker 2: twenty two fifty and one sixty one, and that goes

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Speaker 2: to the Broncos, who should be trying to collect as

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Speaker 2: many picks as possible, and they take nicks. At twenty

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Speaker 2: two or something, they come up to take Terry and Arnold.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think they could be aggressive for a corner.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Raiders take to Laici Fauaga.

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Speaker 3: Stick and pick and you're happy butte. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Saints take oulu Fashanu or fashion. I

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Speaker 2: can't get you the same fashion. I'm At fifteen, Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas to the Colts.

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Speaker 3: I think that's possibility to Pierce has not quite worked

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Speaker 3: out and all the loaded boxes they would see with

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Speaker 3: Richardson and Taylor.

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Speaker 2: And he's different from Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 3: Exactly and downs and yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen, we have another trade the Steelers coming up.

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Speaker 2: How about that? The Steelers give up twenty and eighty

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Speaker 2: four to come up to sixteen and take J. C. Latham.

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Speaker 3: That's a guy I would consider trading up for. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: although in this situation Fortanu and are still there. But

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Speaker 3: that's four picks. You got to keep your fingers crossed on.

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Speaker 2: And this is probably I don't know if Jacksonville is

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Speaker 2: gonna want to trade with you because they've got since

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Speaker 2: he won't. Since he's not going to trade with you,

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Speaker 2: the nineteen doesn't doesn't do any good, right, Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: that's really that's the team that I would target.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who was the team again? Who's sixteen Seattle? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I guess there's not somebody that Patanu could be their guy?

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Speaker 3: Maybe Murphy, like, there's not someone they have to have? Yeah, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so they moved.

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Speaker 2: They come up to give up one of their two

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Speaker 2: third round picks to come up and get late.

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Speaker 3: The crazy price. Yeah, so you move up twice to

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Speaker 3: get bookend tackles.

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Speaker 2: You hope for that, and I think both times will cost

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Speaker 2: you a third round pick, yeah, mid a mid round

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Speaker 2: pick both times.

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Speaker 3: One just one that's not too bad.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad at all. At seventeen, Jacksonville takes Quinna Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: I can see that. Yeah, second corner is really rough.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen, Cincinnati takes Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense. I think he's a go earlier in that

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Speaker 3: he could.

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Speaker 2: I think they need to go defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: That's their number one need in my opinion. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Rams take year a Verse.

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Speaker 3: Makes all the sense in the world. Latoo's already gone. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty the Seahawks, after trading down, take Troy Fatanu.

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Speaker 3: Good for them. Yeah, and if you knew that as

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Speaker 3: a stealer, I would have stayed put, but it might

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Speaker 3: not have gone now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what the bankers are gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe somebody else was gonna trade trade up ahead

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Speaker 3: of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Dolphins take Amarius Mims.

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Speaker 3: I would think they're more win now than that, but

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Speaker 3: you could throw them in a right tackle and.

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Speaker 2: Let them say be worse than what they've been playing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lineman for them on either side makes a

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Speaker 3: lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: At twenty two, after trading down, the Broncos take bo Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. I mean, if they are that high on them

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Speaker 3: and you could get him later. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they also traded for Zack Wilson today. Oh they did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see that. No, Yeah, they traded for Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't change any They still don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Because I thought Zack Wilson trade I didn't see the details.

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Speaker 3: Might end up like a brock osswater trade where they

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Speaker 3: give you stuff to take them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he'll look into that. Yeah, uh huh.

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Speaker 2: We have another trade here at twenty three. The Cardinals

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Speaker 2: coming up. They get twenty three. The Vikings get twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and ninety. Okay, the Cardinals came up to get

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Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Nice, So they get Wiggins in uh Harris Junior. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Minnesota recap some picks by going backwards after going up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got another projected trade here at twenty four.

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Speaker 3: This is a fun draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Cowboys come up or I'm sorry, the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs come up to twenty four, the Cowboys get thirty two,

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Speaker 2: ninety five and one fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys have a lot of needs. They did nothing in

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Speaker 3: free agency, moving back would make sense.

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Speaker 2: For them, and the Chiefs came up to get a

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Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be Worthy, but I would

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Speaker 3: I'd rather Mitchell. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Packers take Grimburton solid Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: Then at twenty six takes Chop Robinson. That's getting old shockey,

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: They use high pics on d Lineman there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty seven, after moving down, the Vikings take

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Speaker 2: jers On Newton Ay.

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Speaker 3: Bad to get a quarterback and you go detackle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Buffalo at twenty eight take Xavier Worthy. I don't

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Speaker 2: like that fit.

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Speaker 3: I don't love the fit either. I might rather take

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Speaker 3: mconukey if I were then I would rather much rather

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Speaker 3: have mconukay. Yeah. I think they need guys to catch

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Speaker 3: a lot of balls.

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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Lions take Cooper Dejen.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's a would bargain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that works out, although they already have Brian Branch true.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe they would rather have a kool aid.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe where they could just say we got all

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Speaker 2: these movable pieces in them back. We could we could

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Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's his temperament, fits the line. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Then we have the Commanders trading up into the

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Speaker 2: first round, Baltimore trading out. The Commanders get number thirty,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens get picked thirty six and seventy eight, and

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Speaker 2: Washington came up to get Tyler Geyton.

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Speaker 3: I said it has to be a tackle. I would think, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess Guyton's kind of the last of.

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Speaker 2: A group of the yeah premium guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one, San Francisco takes kool Aid McKinstry.

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Speaker 3: That would work. He's given this draft a lot of thought.

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Speaker 3: Well done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And at thirty two, after trading down, Dallas takes

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Speaker 2: Jordan Morgan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they could use the center, a guard,

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Speaker 3: could move Smith out to left tackle. They need two linemen. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three the first pick of day two, Jackson Powers.

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Speaker 2: Johnson goes to Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I think that's very possible.

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Speaker 2: Keyon Coleman in New England. Christian Haynes to Arizona. That's

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Speaker 2: as high as I've seen Christian Haynes go solid. Baltimore

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Speaker 2: moved down and took Darius Robinson at thirty six.

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Speaker 3: It might have been who they took there, right.

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Speaker 2: Lad McConkie at thirty seven to the Chargers. That's a

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Speaker 2: nice pick.

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Speaker 3: That's nice pick. Yeah, Old Maconkee.

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Speaker 2: Kingsley saw Mattia goes to the Titans at thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they need lineman and they had a

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Speaker 3: good line coach to work with them.

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Speaker 2: Xavier Lagett at thirty nine to the Panthers. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins goes at forty two to Houston. Rakestraw goes

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Speaker 2: at forty three to the Falcons. Michael Pennix at forty

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Speaker 2: four to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I think he's earlier in that.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here. TJ. Tampa at forty seven goes to

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Speaker 2: the Giants. Troy Franklin at forty eight goes to the Jaguars.

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00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: His teammate or I'm sorry, teammate conference mate, Jalen Polk

643
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Speaker 2: goes to the Bengals at forty nine. Denver takes Chris

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Speaker 2: Braswell and it puts the Steelers up, and the Steelers

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Speaker 2: take at fifty one. Roman Wilson, Okay, I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: He's a slot. He's a good player doesn't. He's not.

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Speaker 3: He struggles against man a little bit. I think he's

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Speaker 3: strictly a slot, which is what worries me. But a

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Speaker 3: receiver in this neighborhood after trading up makes all sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pearsall was still there. I prefer Pearsaw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Wilson would work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Max Melton is the next pick to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Or good Players board though too.

656
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: Junior Colson goes at fifty three to the Eagles. Brayden

657
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: Fisk goes to the Dolphins at fifty five. They could

658
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: certainly use him, Yeah. Jonathan Brooks at the Cowboys fifty six.

659
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

660
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Fifty seven, Tampa Bay takes Zach Fraser. Would Steeler fans

661
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: be going nuts?

662
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

663
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: If they passed on Zach Fraser at fifty one.

664
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Unless they take Barton in round one. I think the

665
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: answer to that question.

666
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Is yes, they will lose their minds.

667
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: What. Yeah, I would right now rather have Wilson or

668
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: Fraser than Wilson if you said I could have one

669
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: of these two to my team right in the second.

670
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: But would you rather have a Fraser than Pearsall?

671
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: No? No?

672
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cole Bishop at fifty eight to the Packers. Mike

673
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: Sandastril at fifty nine to the Texans.

674
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: That's a playing the meetah too.

675
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersall goes at sixty one to the Lions. At

676
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: sixty two, Malachi Cora Ley to the Ravens.

677
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: H receiversarting to fall, but already have one in this

678
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: yeah regard.

679
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sixty three Roger Rosengarten goes to the forty nine ers.

680
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so we want tackles and receivers to fall though,

681
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: so that's fine.

682
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Dominic Pooney at sixty four finishes off the first round.

683
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: He goes a ca as a city.

684
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: I heard some people thinking he could play center.

685
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I saw some of that, more and

686
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: more of that.

687
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: I guess he's super smart, and that's an interesting one.

688
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: He has a big body, sound done something in the past,

689
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: has a little bit of experience with it. Kicking off

690
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: round three, Jonah Ellis the edge rusherd of Utah goes

691
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: to Carolina sixty six. Ruke Roor Hero at sixty six

692
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: goes to the Cardinal.

693
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: I was gonna mention him at fifty one was a

694
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: crossed my mind, Yeah, you know right.

695
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter at sixty seven goes to the Commanders.

696
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Four six five.

697
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Massan Smith at seventy to the Giants.

698
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: That's seeming pretty chalky that he's probably third round. Yeah.

699
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Blake Fisher at seventy two to the Jets.

700
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: That would be a nice consolation prize since he went

701
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: Bowers in round one. Yeah, a little bit of you know,

702
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: tackle insurance.

703
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan at seventy five to the Bears. Andrew Phillips

704
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: goes at seventy six to the Broncos.

705
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Been nice if he was still hanging around, But Steelers

706
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: only a one third round pick now, right.

707
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: Bernardo Green goes at seventy seven to do the Raiders.

708
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: This is a good corner neighborhood right now.

709
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the sweet spot.

710
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: I think it might be what you give up if

711
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: you'd move up for Latham, isn't.

712
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, quality you're going to be picking, Yeah, you'll be

713
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: picking from the bottom of that Beryl as opposed to

714
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: who you want. Peyton Wilson goes at eighty one to

715
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. Cam Hart at eighty two to the Colts.

716
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: He doesn't really fit with the Steelers need there, I.

717
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 3: Mean they love size of the Colts. Corners. Yeah.

718
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler at eighty three to the Rams.

719
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: I think he's going to go on day two. Yeah, yeah,

720
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: especially if those other two get high him go up

721
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: in this neighborhood.

722
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: At eighty four with that pick that they got from

723
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers, the Seahawks take Jatavian Sanders.

724
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not who the Steelers would have taken, I'm sure,

725
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: but there are quality guys out there to pick from.

726
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: The Browns take Javon Foster at eighty five.

727
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: I guess it's time to start addressing that airline a little. Yeah.

728
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: Kyrie Jackson goes at eighty eight to the Packers. Mason

729
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: McCormick at eighty nine to the Buccaneers.

730
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: I think that's the neighborhood. I mean, if he's gonna

731
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: be a Steeler, it's probably with one of those third

732
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: round picks.

733
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: Brandon Coleman goes at ninety to the Vikings.

734
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

735
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: Chris Abrams drain at ninety two to the Buccaneers.

736
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm fond of him as well.

737
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good.

738
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

739
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Kaylin Carson at ninety three goes to the Ravens out

740
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: of Wake Forest.

741
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: Another one. Yeah, that's that neighborhood for corners.

742
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: Leonard Taylor goes at ninety four to the forty nine Ers,

743
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: Cedric Gray at ninety five to Dallas. Any linebackers line

744
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: with them now, Christian Jones at ninety seven to the Bengals.

745
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: That's always seemed some of these boxer were like, he's

746
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: still sitting there in the fifth round. That shouldn't happen.

747
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna be a start athletic tackle like that

748
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: was forty eight. Career starts right right that.

749
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: It's still a tackle, and tackle are still hard to find.

750
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: At ninety eight, he has the Steelers taking Cedric van

751
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Prin Greener.

752
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: Kay probably wouldn't be my choice at center, but center

753
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: there makes all the sense of.

754
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: The word to me.

755
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: I would go nickel corner back there, and he's still

756
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: have Josh Newton out of a TCU. He's a pretty

757
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: good little player. Then you're looking at Elijah Jones still there,

758
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: another good player there at the cornerback position. Malik Mustapha's

759
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: there could play the slot for you. We can run.

760
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: We talked about corners in that third round. Neighborhood, you're

761
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: right there. You're kind of picking the not the bottom

762
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: of the barrel, but.

763
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: You don't have your choice.

764
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot as many to.

765
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: The camera. And Richardson is there from Mississippi State. He's

766
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: a little bigger though.

767
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.

768
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Ben then picked one nineteen. He has the Steelers taking

769
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: DJ James cornerback out of Auburn.

770
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So they went tackle receiver, center, center, corner.

771
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Those are the positions they need to hit. Yeah, we'd

772
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: all agree with that.

773
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: That could be their order.

774
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: But the first four picks, had they waited it, pick

775
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: one two, the Bears take Hunter nors Ad. I would

776
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: rather take the corner back at ninety eight instead of

777
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Ryan and then think thinking that I could get Norz yeah,

778
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: or someone Ordelini or Limber. Yeah, yeah, one of those guys.

779
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those fourth round center aren't.

780
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Bad, No, not bad at all. I think they're and.

781
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: Especially if they truly do have a plan in place

782
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: at home, you know, with on the team already.

783
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Bordolini goes two picks later to San Francisco at.

784
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: One twenty four, maybe a good fit for them.

785
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here. Jarvis Browne was still there as well,

786
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: another good.

787
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go corners, these corners, the third and fourth

788
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: round would be useful.

789
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, moving on to the fifth round, of course, the

790
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: Steelers don't have a pick there, so we just kind

791
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: of breezed through this one. I see who jumps out

792
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: of me?

793
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: And after trading back in round one, instead of maybe

794
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: taking Rome and Wilson at fifty one much like they

795
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: did last year, maybe they moved down to fifty eight

796
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: there and back up a fifth or a third or

797
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: something that.

798
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: And then take the Piers.

799
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

800
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, McKinley Jackson goes to the Eagles at one seventy two.

801
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Did you see the McKinley Jackson stuff.

802
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the mcginnon stuff. Yeah, I mean, tough as nails.

803
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: But both of his parents were in jail. Yeah, said

804
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: he loves he loves football. Both of his parents are

805
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: I've been in and out of prison.

806
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. It basically said, like he's the last dude you

807
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: messed with in the locker room. Tough guy. I mean

808
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: there's some of that background stuff's really interesting. Yeah, absolutely,

809
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean he's a bad kid.

810
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely not interesting a rough Yeah. Round six

811
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: it pick one seventy eight. The Steelers take Fabian Lovett,

812
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 2: senior defensive tackle, out of Florida State. He's he's big

813
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: enough to ride to ride. He's like six four three fifteen.

814
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about all I know about him, to be

815
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: honest with you.

816
00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's one pick after Xavier Thomas. Thomas linebacker empsen Quantes.

817
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: Stiggers is the next pick at one seventy nine.

818
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: Have we talked about him? He did? Yeah, okay, I

819
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: thought so. I'm not sure if you even know he is.

820
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: But he didn't play college football. No, he's a CFL guy.

821
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: He was a CFL Defensive Rookie of the Year this year.

822
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: He's a corner.

823
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Played in the also played in the Arena League. Yeah,

824
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: and then went to the EXF he went.

825
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: He went to that goofy league I think where fans

826
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: call the plays for you. Something weird like that too.

827
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: So he's had an interesting road. He's to get drafted

828
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: in the mid rounds.

829
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's good size, and he's got trades. Huh,

830
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: he's got trades.

831
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: There's different type of film to watch on him than others.

832
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Matt Gonkhalave's I know I'm not pronouncing

833
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: I know, always pronounce it wrong. He goes at one

834
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: ninety one to the Colts.

835
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: I think he's hiring that.

836
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: I think he goes hirding that too.

837
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: Even if he's just hard. The other thing I'm hearing

838
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: about him is good.

839
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: The Steelers at one ninety five with their last pick,

840
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: then take Javon Solomon edge Rusher out of Troy.

841
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: A little bit of work on him, he's okay, yeah

842
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: for that pick.

843
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: And that's that's a pick that, Yeah, you could certainly

844
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: use a guy there.

845
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I special teams will being a media contributor. It's

846
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: not gonna beat out her big for the three, you know,

847
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: but cheap guy. He could even still bring Golden in

848
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: if you want it or somebody like him. Yeah. Yeah,

849
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: so that's that's not a bad option there at all.

850
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, I don't I don't mind that draftcess.

851
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: I like the style of it. Yeah, I might switch

852
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 3: some of the names, even with the la.

853
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: Positions that they hit them.

854
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: That's the tackles the spot that you kind of gave

855
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: up with the trade up.

856
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

857
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what you say.

858
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: And that could be next year's.

859
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: It could be you know, absolutely could be you know idea.

860
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've been kind of leaning towards maybe

861
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: it should be next year's first round pick slash project. Yeah,

862
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: I think cams can still give you a lot and

863
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: interested to see what some of the other younger guys

864
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: can do too. Yeah, but if there's a good one,

865
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: take them. Yeah.

866
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: That was Jordan Reid's seven around Lockham. What he had

867
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: the Steelers coming out of that with and a lot

868
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: of trades in the first round. I expect that to happen.

869
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: I did too, he gave a lot of thought to that. Yeah.

870
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 3: I forgot what the number was today, but I heard

871
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: something about you can bet on how many first round

872
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: trades are going to be and it's been higher this

873
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: year than any other year.

874
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise.

875
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: That surprise me. Yeah, I mean a team like the

876
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Bills in the back seem like they could come up.

877
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: The Eagles came up, you.

878
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: Know, talking about uh the early I think the record

879
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: for offensive players selected in the first round is nineteen

880
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: and it's been done like five times. I bet it

881
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: gets broken this year.

882
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think where I heard today too, because

883
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: the over under in Vegas on defensive players, I think

884
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: it's ten and a half. Yeah, so they're expecting it.

885
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: They're respecting it to day nine and a half or

886
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: ten and a half. That's a really low number for

887
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: thirty two picks. But there's been a ton of receivers,

888
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: a ton of tackles.

889
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: Five quarterbacks, I think at least five. Yeah, yeah, I

890
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: think five.

891
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: If the over under was five, you'd go over.

892
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: No, they never said it at I know that's all.

893
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 3: You could push. Yeah, Like, I think if it's four

894
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: and a half, you'd take the over.

895
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: I'd take the five and a half.

896
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: You'd go on to go under. That's why I said

897
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: at five. Yeah, I think I'd go over, but I

898
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: bet I wouldn't.

899
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: Go I'm gonna go over five and a half.

900
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: No, right right, I think he'll probably be five.

901
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

902
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880
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903
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904
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Speaker 3: Be flying off.

915
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of stuff happening at after

916
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: Sure Stadium this weekend. Oh okay, I get a little

917
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 2: get the fan fest down there that goes on during

918
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: the draft on Saturday. Get maybe the chance to meet

919
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: a couple of the draft picks down here.

920
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: You should bring him in the day after getting picked

921
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: and all that.

922
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: Stopped by the the stadium store there at the Acrocure Stadium.

923
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: Lots of fun stuff. Cam Hayward is doing his his

924
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: podcast down there. Yeah, so lots of good stuff happening

925
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: down there.

926
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes we sit down with the draft picks too. Yeah.

927
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I know. I'll have an opportunity on Friday and

928
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: we'll play that back later in the day to sit

929
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: down with whoever that number one draft pick is. Oh nice,

930
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: So you get a chance to do that. Some other

931
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: interesting notes and tidbits for this draft, and we mentioned

932
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: the nineteen offensive players selected in the draft that that's

933
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: the record right now is nineteen sixty eight, which a

934
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: long time ago two thousand and four, in two thousand

935
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: and nine, sixty eight.

936
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: Didn't know you even have thirty two picks, right, yeah,

937
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: right as a heavy offensively running back.

938
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Yeah, there's probably seven running backs eight.

939
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: The Bears have two of the draft's first nine picks

940
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: this year.

941
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: This is a schefter stuff came out today. There's some

942
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 3: really interesting notes in there.

943
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Uh. Then they have two more picks in the top

944
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: two forty nine. That's it, right, Like they should trade back, yeah, somewhere.

945
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: I mean nine is the only spot. Yeah, I mean

946
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: they're gonna take quarterback at one. I think if a

947
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: done days there at nine, they're gonna take them. But

948
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: if not, they should be heavy trade down and maybe

949
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: even entertain offers at that point.

950
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: They do have one nine seventy five and one twenty two,

951
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: so they're they're not yeah the top one twenty two, Yeah,

952
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: which isn't bad.

953
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: And they've done a lot in free agency and they

954
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: have a ton of cap space. I mean, their needs

955
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: have shrunk.

956
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: But in this draft, I mean, going from nine to

957
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: seventy five in this draft, you're gonna be sitting there

958
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: a long time. Gome boy, there's a lot of good

959
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: players going off the board.

960
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and people are probably like, well, the

961
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: front office doesn't have to pay much attention to those guys. Yeah,

962
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: they do do. They're gonna be free wiking them just

963
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 3: as much as every you can play. And yeah, with

964
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: due diligence. If you're not ranking those guys, how about

965
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: this one.

966
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley could become the first college head coach in

967
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: the common draft era, which is since.

968
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: It was funny as they could, he's going to, yeah.

969
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: To produce three number one overall picks. And whether you

970
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: think these guys should have gone number one overall, that

971
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Kayleb Williams, Kyler, Murray Baker Mayfield. Yeah, it's

972
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: pretty crazy interesting. Marvin Harrison Junior, this is interesting too.

973
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Will be the fifth son of an NFL Hall of

974
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Famer to be a first round draft pick.

975
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 3: First round pick. The others, I know the answer. Okay,

976
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: I did read. I read through these actually right before

977
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: I drove here.

978
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: You got twenty fourteen.

979
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: Jake Matthews.

980
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Matthews, who's the son of Bruce Matthews. H

981
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: Then you got Kyle Long that was in twenty thirteen

982
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: or twenty fourteen. Twenty thirteen was Kyle Long, son of

983
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: Howie Long. Two thousand and eight it was Chris Long,

984
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: son of Howie Long.

985
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Brother of Kyle.

986
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: Yes, and in two thousand and four of the ill

987
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: fated Kellen Winslow, the second by the Brown.

988
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Pretty good dads, though, good dads. Yeah, there's a

989
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: lot of legacy picks coming up in this draft of

990
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: Hall of famers, but their sons aren't going to be first, right,

991
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: That's the that's the difference McCaffrey's and you know, right,

992
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: and really, of those of those players, Jake Matthews is

993
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: a pretty good player. Oh yeah, I mean it's been

994
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: a solid the Matthews never missed time, which is unbelieve unbelievable,

995
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: robo every one of them, and I kind of forget

996
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: Bruce was the same way, and Jake's been really steady.

997
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: You'd be happy. I've been football player for the last decade.

998
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Really good football player. The other one, I mean, Cole Long,

999
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 2: Chris Long, they were okay, Yeah, both had injuries. Yeah,

1000
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: Kellen Winslow, same thing. Injuries.

1001
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 3: Injuries. Yeah, I remember watching Winslow for the first time

1002
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: going holy smokes, and then after he wrecked his bike,

1003
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: he was not close to the same physically, and he

1004
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: had some.

1005
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Other issues maybe mentally too.

1006
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: Mentally was never his strength or maybe wouldn't erect his bike.

1007
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: How about this one, Quinny and Mitchell expected to become

1008
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: the first first round pick from the MAC since Corey

1009
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: Davis in twenty seventeen.

1010
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: You think, but I guess guys transfer out now.

1011
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.

1012
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 3: There's not gonna be Ben that just sits there the whole time.

1013
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: I mean he had opportunities to leave, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1014
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: and stayed and stayed. Yeah, you know where like Jared

1015
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: Vers went to Floor State and yeah, right right, and

1016
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: a lot of guys transfer.

1017
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: Those guys, those guys leave, you know, even the Western

1018
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: Michigan guys. Fisk left this, you know, Marshaw Kneeland stayed.

1019
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: Fisk lest I guess.

1020
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: He Nland could sneak in the Hey could, Yeah he could.

1021
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: But Mitchell will I wonder if it was we less

1022
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 3: and less of that kind of stuff.

1023
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: Probably, So, I mean.

1024
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: That good you come out early or you get an nil.

1025
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: And somebody, Yeah, somebody offers to pay you more money.

1026
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1027
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: It will be the third mac defensive back to go

1028
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: in the first round in history, joining Ron Johnson seventy

1029
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: eight and Jimmy Ward in twenty fourteen. Where Jimmy Ward

1030
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: to school Jimmy Ward went to It doesn't matter. I

1031
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: think Southern Illinois, Okay, I believe, Yeah, Okay, it's either

1032
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: southern or Northern Illinois. One of the Illinois one of the.

1033
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Directions, some directional school that I get mixed up.

1034
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: U c LA Edge Rusher lay Off too late too

1035
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: is expected to become UCLA's first first round pick since

1036
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.

1037
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: It's a long time for a big school, for a

1038
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: school like that. Yeah, I mean that's a hotbed. LA's

1039
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: got great kids. You should be recruiting first round pit. Yeah,

1040
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: some regularity there. And I hear it's like one of

1041
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: the most beautiful campuses ever too. Yeah, you would think

1042
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: you should be. Even back in my recruiting days, people

1043
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: would say, why doesn't UCLA recruit better than as well

1044
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: as anyone in the league.

1045
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: They should recruit at least as well as USC you'd think, Yeah,

1046
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: you would think it doesn't happen.

1047
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: Doesn't happen.

1048
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: Uh. And at twenty eighteen draft, they had two guys

1049
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: taken in the first round. Do you know who they were?

1050
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: I know, Colton Miller was one.

1051
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: The other one was Josh rosen Ouch.

1052
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: Easy to forget.

1053
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the school that produced Tommy Maddox as

1054
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: well touchdown Tommy. Alabama offensive tackle jac Latham expected to

1055
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: become the ninth offensive lineman and probably last under Nick

1056
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: Saban since two thousand and eight, to be first round

1057
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: draft pick. No other school has produced more than five.

1058
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, a lot of them don't hit. They have been

1059
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: really bad hit rate. I mean now that I don't

1060
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: hold that against Latham, but when there's that long a list,

1061
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: it's a little scary.

1062
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, people with better ones. Yeah, people talk about the oh,

1063
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: don't take on Ohio State quarterback or don't take a

1064
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: big twelve quarterback. Yeah, those things have getting Those things

1065
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: get shattered.

1066
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 3: They do, and you can't scout the helmet. It's certainly

1067
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: a mistake you make. But you wonder, did Nick just

1068
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: beat the crap out of these old linemen? And they

1069
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: played more games than everybody else, so they just a

1070
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: little more beat up when they get to the league

1071
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: than other teams. I don't know. I mean some of

1072
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: these Georgia guys aren't quite living up to the expectation.

1073
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah right, all these guys have been drafted super high

1074
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: on defense.

1075
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Uh. Speaking of the Georgia guys, Amarus Mimes had the

1076
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: largest wingspan and this year's calm by eighty six and

1077
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: three quarters inches.

1078
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean anything. The most are listeners. You're like, oh,

1079
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's long.

1080
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: That's only a quarter of inch smaller than that of Giannis.

1081
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: And I can never pronounce the Greek freak.

1082
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: The Greek freak, Yeah, who is like seven too.

1083
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: It takes like four strides get out of the court

1084
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: and dugs or bat court right with the crazy long arms.

1085
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: That's the Mims plus a lot of weight plus quarter

1086
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: inch different wingspan than that.

1087
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: In about one hundred and fifty pounds.

1088
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: Now, Mims' chest is way bigger than the Greek freak. So,

1089
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: I mean, like his arm length isn't insane, but that's

1090
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: still that wingspan is bonkers.

1091
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he'd call him the Georgia freaking.

1092
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean part of me hopes the Steelers take

1093
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: him just so I can see him in perfect I

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00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: just want to see be next to him, like holy smokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, he's a large human being.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he doesn't have a lot of fat on

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Speaker 3: his body, and he's got shoulders and muscles, and.

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Speaker 2: You know I would get it and get it. He

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Speaker 2: just scares me. He just scares me, But I would

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 3: No, no doubt. Both arguments are very strong for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he may be a better pro than

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Speaker 2: he was a college player. I think there's almost I

1104
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Speaker 2: think there's several players in this dreads. You know. I

1105
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Speaker 2: think the defensive lineman out of LSU is the same way.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you would hope.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, I think he'll be a much

1108
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: better pro than he was.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of examples. We could come

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Speaker 3: up with long lists. I think, yeah, either injuries or

1111
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: something held them scheme wise, or I mean, is behind

1112
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: a really good player. I would hope Geyiton would be

1113
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: a beaut you know, guys like that just didn't get

1114
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: a chance to play.

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Speaker 2: A lot of those Michigan guys, you know, well he

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00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: didn't have any stats. Well he's on a defense with

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Speaker 2: ten other NFL players.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just you know those Michigan defenses too, or do

1119
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: your job. I don't need get freelancing to get sacks,

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Speaker 3: and it works. They win games, you know. Yeah, frankly

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Speaker 3: McCarthy could be a better yeah, pro.

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Speaker 2: Than if somebody that takes them forth in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: He'd better be, especially statistically, Yeah, I mean his winning

1124
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: percentage won't be as good, but right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that he's lost like three games is

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Speaker 2: a quarter back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's.

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Speaker 2: Like he's like thirty eight and two in high school

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 3: Think he lost one game in Michigan's something like that's crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and somebody said for it, No, there definitely is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think winning is contagious, and I think

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Speaker 2: guys are winners. You get guys who were winners.

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Speaker 3: And he's young, and I like him more now than

1135
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 3: when this process started. I looked at it like, oh,

1136
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Speaker 3: you know, they ran the ball a million times against

1137
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Speaker 3: Penn State, well part of us, because they couldn't block

1138
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Speaker 3: drop Robinson.

1139
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, so this ran at him. Then Penn

1140
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: State also couldn't stop it.

1141
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: And it couldn't stop it. So that's not you shouldn't

1142
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: hold that against McCarthy. Yeah, Also because they ran so

1143
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: much they were in third and medium and third and

1144
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: long a lot, and he was really good on third down. Yeah,

1145
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's that part of it too. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to another break that's going to do it for our

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Speaker 2: number one of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number two right after this,

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Speaker 2: all right,