Speaker 1: Bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, not tell
Speaker 1: me what, Hello the Internet, it's me Jack.
Speaker 2: Welcome to season three oh five, Episode two of.
Speaker 1: Dalysi Guy Stay production of iHeart Radio. This is the
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into the lyrics
Speaker 1: of Crossroads by Bone, Thugs and Harmony and also America's
Speaker 1: share consciousness. It is Wednesday, September twentieth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hey, no punch Day. Don't be a don't
Speaker 2: be a bully and say, hey, you know what Today's
Speaker 2: National Punch Day, National Care for Kidsday, National Fried Rice Day,
Speaker 2: National String Cheese Day, and Pepperoni Pizza Day.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, all right, Big Big Mozzarella has a lock
Speaker 1: on Stember twentieth.
Speaker 2: Damn no, they're doing a lot today too. You keep
Speaker 2: the string cheese at the house.
Speaker 1: Do you keep string teaes on you for the kids?
Speaker 2: Are they still now?
Speaker 1: They are?
Speaker 2: Our kids don't like cheese?
Speaker 1: This is crazy, okay, they like they're lactose intolerant or something.
Speaker 2: They're crazy for that so weird?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, they My my seven year old doesn't like cheese,
Speaker 1: and we don't really keep it makes sense.
Speaker 2: It makes sense, it does.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka, so train me and
Speaker 1: pay for me one hundred and sixty million dollar plane
Speaker 1: for me, Suit me up and give me the controls
Speaker 1: because I'm yeading this here jet plane. Don't know if
Speaker 1: I will be detained at thirty five. Just had to go.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Willie Kay on the Discord. Nailed
Speaker 1: it the In terms of the writing, I did not
Speaker 1: got my phrasing went off a little bit. But uh
Speaker 1: for you, sir, boying or spring the sound of an
Speaker 1: arrow hitting a bullseye. I don't know how to make
Speaker 1: a sound of an arrow hitting a bull That doesn't
Speaker 1: imply that my dick is getting hard. That just sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to do boner. Anyways, I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2: Of trying to do boner. Uh, sitting in the theater
Speaker 2: bathing big cloud, singing the beetle juice, laid bang with
Speaker 2: my hands on my boyfriend that must be down on
Speaker 2: the mayor. Shout out to Hack on the Discord for
Speaker 2: that lower Bulbert verse. You know what I mean? Wow?
Speaker 2: How do how do I do?
Speaker 1: Bob bars? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Bow bars? As we say yeah, bo Bar is the
Speaker 2: King of the Elephants.
Speaker 1: Well, Miles, We're thrilled to be joining our thirty seat
Speaker 1: by a brilliant, talented writer podcaster who you know from
Speaker 1: publications such as The New York Times, The New York
Speaker 1: or The New York Review of Books.
Speaker 2: G EQ I haven't heard of any of these.
Speaker 1: One of one of the co hosts of the legendary
Speaker 1: podcasts Girls in Hoodies and Night Call, and the writer,
Speaker 1: creator and host of the legendary podcast Heidi World The
Speaker 1: Heidi Fly Story.
Speaker 2: Please welcome back to the show, Molly Lambert pep are
Speaker 2: you to get.
Speaker 3: Out of the way, trying to match trying to match
Speaker 3: the chaotic energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get out of the way.
Speaker 3: Get out of the way, because I'm on the.
Speaker 1: Third mic oh Man, I just discovered how far off
Speaker 1: I was on on Crossroads lyrics. I heard that song
Speaker 1: a thousand times.
Speaker 3: The sound of a boner is shwing.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because in the nineties.
Speaker 2: And what about.
Speaker 3: Sound spraying is the sound of like when you get
Speaker 3: ejected from a seat in a spraying?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And what's boil a plane emergency seat's like, so.
Speaker 1: What what's the best sound effect for an arrow hitting
Speaker 1: a bullseye.
Speaker 3: The sound of a penis getting erecked.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the same, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're showing it up, showing low. What about the crossroads, though, Jack,
Speaker 2: because we really are messing with deform by starting his
Speaker 2: head south thinking there's a party easy sees Uncle Charlie.
Speaker 1: But it is not that. It's ah, it is that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not. It's it's let's all bring
Speaker 3: it in for Wally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's all bring it in for Wally. Easy sees
Speaker 1: Uncle Charlie. And I thought it said, and it proves
Speaker 1: that God's got him, like he sees Uncle Charlie in
Speaker 1: his mind's eye and the third eye, and that proves
Speaker 1: that God's got him. But instead it's little Boo. But
Speaker 1: God's got him And I'm gonna miss every everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know.
Speaker 2: Where do we go? What the what is up? And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's better. It's actually a better.
Speaker 1: I like the version of my head better. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop looking at the crossroads lyrics.
Speaker 2: Those are merely.
Speaker 3: Actually capturing the rye at the end when he's like
Speaker 3: I'm going to miss everybody.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to miss everybody, and I'm going.
Speaker 3: To miss everybody. My teacher tried to molest me sort
Speaker 3: of in love with my sister. My name is.
Speaker 1: A bunch of lousy phonies and a bunch of lousy
Speaker 1: phonies and a bunch of lousy phonies.
Speaker 2: All right, well, there's no well, I.
Speaker 3: Miss my weird.
Speaker 1: School shaves twice, shaves twice.
Speaker 3: That you guys like your niche content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to shed as many listeners as possible
Speaker 2: in the first three minutes.
Speaker 1: To get them the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: I'm here to make me laugh, So it's only our
Speaker 2: true barnacles that are still attached to the whole of
Speaker 2: this scene.
Speaker 1: We're not here to make fans.
Speaker 2: We're we're here to identify other people who have similar
Speaker 2: deficient mental illnesses, and then we come together in this
Speaker 2: place called the Daily. And I missed my uncle Charles?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Is that? How drunk boyfriend came up the other day
Speaker 1: was from missing talking about how I think.
Speaker 2: I think they were the original I think Yeah, Matt
Speaker 2: was talking about bone thugs and said that partner, and
Speaker 2: then we can't we can't help but do the drunk way.
Speaker 1: I hear about someone's uncle Charles who died out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Just they haven't mentioned Uncle Charles before. I am going
Speaker 1: to think of drunk drunk boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Will you fill me in on drunk boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It's an SNL sketch where one.
Speaker 2: Of the things, it's like at one of those commercials.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things that drunk boyfriend does is
Speaker 1: start crying about a relative that you've never heard, that
Speaker 1: he's never mentioned before, and then he just cuts him, being.
Speaker 2: Like my uncle. It was like meant to be a
Speaker 2: drunk boyfriend. It was Kyle Mooney and then what was it,
Speaker 2: Sam Let's his face? Sam Rockwell, Sam Rockwell, And it
Speaker 2: was like it was basically like an animatronic humanoid doll
Speaker 2: that would be like your drunk boyfriend that you would
Speaker 2: have to take care of.
Speaker 3: Was this one of those like final quadrant of SNL
Speaker 3: when they just start doing the weird ones.
Speaker 1: No, I think this was one of the early like this.
Speaker 3: Was like the first sketch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the fake commercial block.
Speaker 2: Yeah that usually came right after the monologue, right, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: It's so incredible that the variation in quality over that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, jarring, I am jarred excuse.
Speaker 3: When you're watching the end sometimes and and you're like, damn,
Speaker 3: they really haven't had a have It made me laugh
Speaker 3: in like fifteen minutes. And then there's just like a
Speaker 3: really weird sketch at the end that they left side really.
Speaker 2: Right right right, Well, what if they let them do all.
Speaker 3: The funny sketches instead of Lord.
Speaker 2: Michael's coming in at like the zero hour.
Speaker 3: Eleven twenty nine and before like everyone's material is cut
Speaker 3: except for Pete Davidson.
Speaker 1: My good boy did a cheerleader sketch.
Speaker 2: It was funny how like in a bad episode you
Speaker 2: would pray for that card to come up and you're like,
Speaker 2: is it the outros yet? And you would hear that
Speaker 2: little bit of piano go booom, and you're like, oh god,
Speaker 2: that's everyone. Wow, you were made it to the end.
Speaker 1: You were a prisoner to that show.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. We had a really jam packed Saturday night sketch,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had places to go, but I had to
Speaker 1: complete SNL.
Speaker 2: I was watching snick and then watching SNL like we're
Speaker 2: pretending and we weren't up that late. That was my
Speaker 2: Saturday night in the nineties.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Molly, we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell her listen to a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're gonna check them with private Equity.
Speaker 1: We're gonna check them with Rudy Giuliani, on whom it
Speaker 1: just keeps raining.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: I just want to narrate the whole thing. And then
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that lost F thirty five and
Speaker 1: just the entire history of the F thirty five jet program.
Speaker 1: It's the real winner. Yeah, all of that, plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Molly Lambert, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: as you well know, Hey, Molly, was something for yoursearch
Speaker 1: history that's revealing about.
Speaker 3: Who you are? Well? Right now, it's Crossroads by Bone
Speaker 3: Tuk Bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You did point out that the actually the first lyrics
Speaker 1: of the song are bone bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone.
Speaker 3: Bone, bone, bone bone. I'm also just reading about remembering
Speaker 3: about the video that there's a part where there's like
Speaker 3: a newborn baby that's died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people love when newborn babies die and their
Speaker 1: music videos and.
Speaker 3: The reader takes them all to heaven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, isn't there one part where like someone touches the
Speaker 2: dude's eyes and no, they touched the forehead and the
Speaker 2: eyes go black and oh that's right. That's how you
Speaker 2: know that God's got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That to me, I was like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I want God to get me like that. That seems pretty.
Speaker 3: Look I'll be I'll be real. I won't pretend to
Speaker 3: have looked up something cool. The most recent thing I
Speaker 3: searched for was the pop star Tate McCray, who has
Speaker 3: a viral TikTok song, because.
Speaker 2: I was like, who is Ta McCray, please help?
Speaker 3: She has a viral TikTok song. Her name is Tate
Speaker 3: McCray okay, and she's a Canadian pop star, and so
Speaker 3: the video is set in a hockey rink.
Speaker 2: Because it's about oh hell yeah, she's.
Speaker 3: Getting getting back at her hockey player boyfriend who just
Speaker 3: cheated on her.
Speaker 2: Oh no, wow, I've never seen someone look more like
Speaker 2: their name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look more like a Canadian pop star named Tate mccrean. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, if you just showed me, like,
Speaker 2: who's this person, I'm like, that's Tate McRae, Canadian pop star.
Speaker 3: She's bf Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but she just had a song.
Speaker 3: That went really viral on TikTok and so I was
Speaker 3: like a person. The song is called Greedy, and it's like.
Speaker 1: The video looks like it is a Canadian spoof of
Speaker 1: Hit Me Baby One More Time.
Speaker 3: It does look like that. It's really funny.
Speaker 1: It's like, what if Hitnie Baby One More Time? But Canada.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of, It's like if the Grimes video wasn't fascist.
Speaker 3: It's like, I like when there's like a like a sports.
Speaker 2: Oh like that that first video she had like at
Speaker 2: the Monster Track rally or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where she was like I love Arenas Yo.
Speaker 2: Wait where did they shoot this video? Is she based
Speaker 2: in La.
Speaker 3: Tate McCrae, Yeah, recognize, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where. This is where we used to
Speaker 2: play hockey and Bourbank. I think they shoot everything there,
Speaker 2: like Pickwick Yeah yeah, the Pickwick Ice shirts, the Pickwick
Speaker 2: Ice skating place. I'd have to see if I just went.
Speaker 3: There for the first time. Dang. Yeah. There was a
Speaker 3: big hockey boom in Los Angeles because of the Kings.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you know this.
Speaker 3: But children of the Valley loved to go play hockey
Speaker 3: in a climate where hockey has never been played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. It's it's so true. And uh, who
Speaker 2: else I remember the other Fate Like I think I
Speaker 2: was like, honestly, I think it was one of the
Speaker 2: first black and players to ever play hockey. Because this
Speaker 2: was like in the fucking eighties. I was getting on
Speaker 2: the ice and then Kurt Russell and Goldie.
Speaker 3: You were like, you just improved the game one thousand percent.
Speaker 2: We were such a ragtag group. It was like us
Speaker 2: like some Armenian kids, some Canadian kids who's like parents,
Speaker 2: were like straining the platform. Mighty Ducks, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly exactly, the blazing group.
Speaker 1: This coach came back.
Speaker 2: He had just got one of them was girl no Crazy.
Speaker 2: Two Mexican kids, Jose and Joel Yo. We were the team.
Speaker 2: Photo looked fucking lit. I don't know what this is
Speaker 2: a movie? Yeah it was, and it was a literally
Speaker 2: the Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 3: But also it should be a movie about you and
Speaker 3: your ragtag group of valley friends.
Speaker 2: Going to New England and getting real hockey.
Speaker 3: Playing against the Wrench kids who have all the hockey gear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly right.
Speaker 1: Minnesota, They're just like mean Canadians, like just people people
Speaker 1: want to root against Canadian.
Speaker 3: This video is funny because it's like, I like, I've
Speaker 3: never seen anyone do the aesthetics of hockey and a
Speaker 3: pop music video before, and it's like so Canadian obviously.
Speaker 3: But there's a part where she's wearing like a goalie glove.
Speaker 3: It's like she's dressed like sexy, but she's.
Speaker 1: Wearing like pieces of hockey gear.
Speaker 3: It's really funny. Yeah, it's like she's wearing like like
Speaker 3: a crop top and basketball shorts kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like this lone old like like Gordy Howe
Speaker 2: hockey glove. She's like holding that. I'm like, yo that
Speaker 2: she is so.
Speaker 1: Okay, like Jason Boordhees's hockey gear is a little Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really funny.
Speaker 3: It looks like like the Thanos glove or whatever too.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's like not sexy. And then she's
Speaker 3: driving a zamboni.
Speaker 1: Jamie Jamie Jamie Loftus's influence is felt across much of
Speaker 1: the pop music landscape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very Jamie loft Is coated of MraY.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny, Like the last shot being heard
Speaker 1: driving a Zamboni like very like in a very weird like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like about being confident and sassy taking control.
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: It's funny, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like a good it's a pretty good song. I heard
Speaker 3: it on TikTok a million times and I was like,
Speaker 3: what is this?
Speaker 1: And now I know it's Tate mcgraham. Now our listeners know,
Speaker 1: and that is the sort of ship that they were
Speaker 1: not going to hear from us. I can tell you that, bunch.
Speaker 1: So this is a great search history you are bringing.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Popcorner.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just like.
Speaker 3: Usually the things. Okay, can I tell you the other
Speaker 3: thing I looked up? This is more on the type
Speaker 3: of thing I normally look up. But I found out
Speaker 3: that well maybe whatever, I'll never mind. I'll tell you
Speaker 3: guys later.
Speaker 2: Okay. I like that, And I want to make this.
Speaker 3: Part go too long. I'll bring it up in the
Speaker 3: jet fuel part.
Speaker 1: Okay, that jet fuel doesn't melt.
Speaker 2: Nine eleven was last week. What's going on?
Speaker 1: All right, Molly? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: You know what? It's controversial and I don't even know
Speaker 3: if I believe this. I'm gonna say it to become
Speaker 3: diversial pumpkin spice.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, wait what do you mean? Oh so you don't?
Speaker 2: Are you kind of ambivalent?
Speaker 3: No, I'm drinking one right now.
Speaker 2: Oh wow? And how are you feeling?
Speaker 1: What do you drinking? It's kind of blinking in and
Speaker 1: out of existence.
Speaker 3: I'm drinking something La colombe disgusting. It's good. It's like
Speaker 3: disgusting and good with a la column canned pumpkin spice
Speaker 3: latte from Trader Joss.
Speaker 2: And why does it have you feeling overrated and underrated
Speaker 2: at the same time? You seem comfused?
Speaker 3: But I think it's like I like the idea of
Speaker 3: pumpkin spice a lot, you know, and then a lot
Speaker 3: of the times the products like don't hit very well.
Speaker 3: Like I was, like, the actual pumpkin spice latte from
Speaker 3: Starbucks is pretty disgusting.
Speaker 2: Mm so what do you as an what do you
Speaker 2: like about it as a concept? More just like that
Speaker 2: Fall has a flavor and you're fucking with Fall, or
Speaker 2: that you actually do like that combo of like nutmeg
Speaker 2: and cinnamon and all that shit.
Speaker 3: Fall has a flavor and I fuck with Fall. Okay,
Speaker 3: I do like the combo of nutmeg I like that
Speaker 3: fall is represented by like a squash kind of seems
Speaker 3: sunny gang. Yeah, yeah, gord Gang. I think it's just
Speaker 3: like there's a platonic ideal of pumpkin spice that exists
Speaker 3: only in my mind.
Speaker 1: Right, So the execution of pumpkin spice is yeah overrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people are just.
Speaker 3: Like, when we threw some cinnamon on it, now it's
Speaker 3: a pumpkin spice flavor.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, right, this thing, this gioza that you ordered
Speaker 2: at the Ramen well.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, it's gotten out of control. I want to trade.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I mean too. I went to
Speaker 3: Trader Joe's the other day and I was like, they
Speaker 3: made too many things pumpkin spice. Now nobody needs pumpkin
Speaker 3: spice cream cheese.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need they do this thing.
Speaker 1: I actually I hate to them for you. I might
Speaker 1: need that.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you don't know.
Speaker 1: I might need that. Actually, no, you don't.
Speaker 3: One my one, like New York jew hardline thing is
Speaker 3: like no sweet bagels.
Speaker 1: Right right, that's a doughnut cinnamon raisin.
Speaker 3: No, that's a donut. Don't eat a donut.
Speaker 1: Even with some savory some pumpkin spice.
Speaker 3: Who said that. Somebody said that.
Speaker 2: Wait, but wasn't like a viral fucking bagel that people
Speaker 2: were trying to get that was like I had the
Speaker 2: cinnamon raisin with locks.
Speaker 3: Like they were like, right, it wasn't that like the
Speaker 3: mayor of New York said it was his favorite or something.
Speaker 2: Oh, is that what it was?
Speaker 1: Eric Adams?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like Eric Adams or somebody.
Speaker 2: Bloomberg or no, Cynthia Nixon. Yeah, it was Cynthia Nixon
Speaker 2: when she was running and we tried Cynthia Nixon's controversial
Speaker 2: bagel order, and yeah, cinnamon raisin with locks locks, cream cheese, tomatoes,
Speaker 2: onion capers on a cinnamon raisin.
Speaker 1: It's just fucking crazy, you have. She'd been famous for
Speaker 1: too long.
Speaker 3: She's trying to be like, I'm a real New Yorker,
Speaker 3: New Yorker and then she's like this is what I eat.
Speaker 1: And everybody was like, mano, cimm raisins. Like, not only
Speaker 1: are they not in theory what a bagel should be,
Speaker 1: they're also not popular. Like when you do a dozen bagels,
Speaker 1: like the one that's always left over is cinnamon raisin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, didn't.
Speaker 3: You just say you'd try the pumpkin spiced cream cheese, though, like,
Speaker 3: which side do you want?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: It's both.
Speaker 1: It's succi while one like, wow, Okay, I like sweet
Speaker 1: things and if if there's sweetness on the menu and
Speaker 1: I'm in the mood for a little sweet sweet treat,
Speaker 1: little sweetie, I'll go with it. But it does seem
Speaker 1: like cinnamon raisin is just unpopular. It's something that the
Speaker 1: cinnamon and raisin, big cinnamon and big raisin have come
Speaker 1: together to try to make happen for far too long.
Speaker 3: Pumpkin spice cream cheese is ungodly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also zegang. If you're like, if you can
Speaker 2: help me understand why this is not an abomination, please
Speaker 2: let me know. I'm curious. But if not, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: do an underrated We'll be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: and Molly Lambert, we do like to ask our guests
Speaker 1: what is something from what is something from your search history? Also,
Speaker 1: what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Okay? Underrated? Every time I come, I only do food
Speaker 3: things vanilla ice cream? Did I say this one last time?
Speaker 2: Or am I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling it again.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know. I don't think you have I think you may.
Speaker 2: I remember talking about this, but I don't know. This
Speaker 2: could be a universal underrated.
Speaker 3: Potentially Yeah, maybe I was getting deja voo.
Speaker 2: Under it's a clitchen the matrix, thank.
Speaker 3: You, underrated vanilla ice.
Speaker 1: Cream speak on it?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it hard ice cream? Is it the soft serve?
Speaker 1: Is it all the above?
Speaker 2: A French is my birthday?
Speaker 3: The other day?
Speaker 1: Hey, happy bread?
Speaker 3: Thank you? And the guy at the diner heard me
Speaker 3: and my friend talking about how it was my birthday
Speaker 3: at midnight and then brought us a little vanilla ice
Speaker 3: cream with whipped cream and rainbow sprinkles, just like, oh hey,
Speaker 3: I heard you say it was your birthday. Happy birthday.
Speaker 3: It's like something I would never have ordered, but it
Speaker 3: was so fucking good and I was just like, damn
Speaker 3: vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 4: The same thing happened to me on Friday on my birthday.
Speaker 4: What yes, Happy birthday by the dude brought out a
Speaker 4: little like one like one of them stainless steel saucers
Speaker 4: with a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it. Nope,
Speaker 4: there was no whip cream or other shit, but just
Speaker 4: like hooked it up.
Speaker 2: It was like, hey, man, for your birthday, I thank
Speaker 2: you and I ate that shit soaked. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was maybe like the meaning
Speaker 2: behind it, but it was probably one of the most
Speaker 2: delicious vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 3: It was so good that yesterday I went to Foster's
Speaker 3: Freeze and ordered a vanilla ice cream Sunday because.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, have vanilla ice cream Sunday. It's
Speaker 1: just vanilla ice cream with like melted vanilla ice cream
Speaker 1: sauce on top.
Speaker 3: No, no, just like vanilla with hot fudge and vanilla
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 1: Vanilla ice cream is the greatest, like bass, that's.
Speaker 3: What I mean. I think it's just like it's as
Speaker 3: a base, it holds toppings incredibly, and I think, you know,
Speaker 3: I think we get caught up in these flavors. Pumpkin spice,
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's what I mean. It's like
Speaker 3: pumpkin spice. You're like imagining this incredible flavor, and it's
Speaker 3: like vanilla is right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, there has been for us all along.
Speaker 2: When there's a little bit of vanilla Philippic vanilla bean
Speaker 2: that sit feels like the height of classic ice.
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, only respects I will allow in my food.
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's probably moldy.
Speaker 3: People say, like like people talk about like vanilla sex,
Speaker 3: It's like, oh what it's like delicious.
Speaker 2: Really like the foundation of all other great sexes, the
Speaker 2: most versatile sex that you're like kind of always in
Speaker 2: the mood. Oh, I'm sorry that my sex was universally
Speaker 2: appealing hard in me. I didn't know. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, it wasn't more niche and unappealing, like a.
Speaker 2: Cinnamon raisin bagel with locks. Is that the kind of sex, right?
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a warm hug from cold
Speaker 3: ice of the soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shut ice cream?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, like vanilla ice cream. We got holler atus, please.
Speaker 1: Holler, come on sponsor our show. Vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 3: Vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like it could be a jingle written.
Speaker 2: By ice cream vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you should just go have some vanilla ice cream. Man,
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to get. All right, shall we talk
Speaker 1: about what do you want to talk about? You want
Speaker 1: to talk about private equity?
Speaker 2: This was this is interesting. I saw a headline that
Speaker 2: was allow me to pull up the exact headline, because
Speaker 2: I was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: It said, can private equity be ellipses nice? And I
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck is this? And it's an
Speaker 2: interview by Enslate by Magan Greenwell where she interviews one
Speaker 2: of the heads of kk R, which is this like
Speaker 2: private equity firm that just bought the publisher Simon and Schuster,
Speaker 2: And kk R is doing something that is kind of
Speaker 2: unheard of in the private equity world. They're offering employees
Speaker 2: of the companies they purchase an ownership state and you're like, wait,
Speaker 2: what the what, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: They basically built in a deal where part of like
Speaker 2: the total equity of the company gets put aside for employees,
Speaker 2: and higher earning employees have the option to buy like
Speaker 2: additional equity if they want, but everyone gets a piece
Speaker 2: for free. And the idea here is that when the
Speaker 2: company sells or goes public, everybody gets a little taste
Speaker 2: of something, not just the C suite, which is like normal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like tech companies have been doing
Speaker 1: that with like stock like get allowing employees to like
Speaker 1: have stock and stuff like that for a while, but
Speaker 1: then when it comes time to like actually distribute it,
Speaker 1: they always like find a way to Like these things
Speaker 1: are tied to like forty page contracts, the thing employees
Speaker 1: aren't going to have time to like read or like
Speaker 1: you know, have their legal teams like pour over. Like
Speaker 1: some of some of the examples is like a trucking company,
Speaker 1: Like these truckers don't have fucking legal teams to like
Speaker 1: pour over. No, make sure they're not getting fucked over.
Speaker 2: But like so this one they're golden goose. Of an
Speaker 2: example is this company called chi overhead Doors, where the
Speaker 2: private equity firm bought them. Everyone had their steak and
Speaker 2: when they sold, an average of one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five thousand was like distributed to the to the like
Speaker 2: rank and file employees. Some longtime truck drivers they say
Speaker 2: made as much as eight hundred thousand, and like even
Speaker 2: in speaking to them, like these truck drivers are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's cool, like I made the money. And also when
Speaker 2: you have a stake in it, you actually begin to
Speaker 2: see the inefficiencies in your own business. He's like I
Speaker 2: used to get forty cents a mile no matter where
Speaker 2: I drove, and I didn't care because more miles meant
Speaker 2: more money. But when I realized that that could affect
Speaker 2: the sale price of the company, then we started actually
Speaker 2: optimizing things. So it's like a very fucking like double
Speaker 2: edged sword here, because overall makes no sense given what
Speaker 2: private equity is about, and like they're bloodlust for just
Speaker 2: chopping down the workforce to just you know, lower in
Speaker 2: the name of lowering costs. But they say the private
Speaker 2: equit say it's win win. It says workers get the
Speaker 2: chance for big payout in a voice in company decisions.
Speaker 2: Not really, and investors get increased staff engagement and retention,
Speaker 2: which in turn creates higher profits. So the optimistic read
Speaker 2: on this is that it's an attempt to trying to
Speaker 2: make capitalism a little more worker friendly. The cynical version
Speaker 2: is that this is just corporate. This is like a
Speaker 2: corporate whitewashing scheme, and it's meant for people to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like this could actually benefit people. In the
Speaker 2: interview the guy from the firm, he's using a lot
Speaker 2: of maybees and might bees when it comes to this
Speaker 2: becoming like a huge payout for people, and it's all
Speaker 2: nice and like a hypothetical context. But the outcomes begin
Speaker 2: to differ based on what happens even like when the
Speaker 2: equity firm exits the company, like do they go private?
Speaker 2: Do they sell it to another firm? And then what
Speaker 2: happens there? Does that next firm even give a fuck?
Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, it seems like they're
Speaker 2: one example of like the truck drivers making eight hundred k,
Speaker 2: like the ownership stake incentivized workers to just start cutting
Speaker 2: down on their own rather than the private equity firm
Speaker 2: coming in and doing it. And I think the other
Speaker 2: thing is that it's huge for retention, which seems to
Speaker 2: be a huge cost of when a like a new
Speaker 2: ownership you know team comes in, it just fucking they're like, mat,
Speaker 2: fuck this place, I'm out of here. But not like
Speaker 2: what if we give you a piece and now they
Speaker 2: don't have to cycle through thousands of employees to retain
Speaker 2: and train them. So to me, it seems like a
Speaker 2: very elegant way of like cost savings while appearing to
Speaker 2: be doing the right thing, because not everyone's going to
Speaker 2: get paid out eight hundred thousand dollars, like one example,
Speaker 2: they sort of parade around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are probably versions of capitalism that
Speaker 1: work right.
Speaker 3: Now, there are none.
Speaker 1: No, there's not, Like there's probably like a handful of
Speaker 1: times that, but like there are millions. They stumble upon
Speaker 1: opportunities for it to work. It's called accidental socialism if
Speaker 1: any right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, socialism works. It doesn't work because how you have
Speaker 3: to explain somebody for it to exist, right, so somebody
Speaker 3: gets somebody has to get fucked. Oh yeah, function. The
Speaker 3: other thing that there's no it existing without somebody getting
Speaker 3: fucked the like.
Speaker 2: In this interview too, when like you know, very pointedly,
Speaker 2: this journalist is asking like why don't you just raise
Speaker 2: wages like when you come in, like how about that
Speaker 2: to keep employees? Like what what doesn't that work? And
Speaker 2: then they use this I gotta like.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be writing this article if we did that.
Speaker 2: Probably what they're.
Speaker 3: Also I know, Megan Greenwell shout out Megan Greenwell.
Speaker 1: Yeah is that who wrote this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And she understood, she's got she knows.
Speaker 2: She's writing a book right now about how private equity
Speaker 2: fucks workers. Like, so she didn't go into this interview
Speaker 2: being like this is going to be great, Like it's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really pointed questions.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kim Stanley Robinson like talks about how the
Speaker 1: like profit inherently, like profit is the only goal of
Speaker 1: any of this shit, and profit inherently is exploitive because
Speaker 1: it's like getting more than your fair share. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the point of profit. That's what profit means.
Speaker 2: So in this they asked like, why don't you just
Speaker 2: like raise the salary, like like that's the easy way
Speaker 2: to go, and he says like, look, you know, we
Speaker 2: we manage all kinds of people's money. We including teachers,
Speaker 2: teachers retirement funds. We also manage wealthy people's money. So
Speaker 2: I don't want a cherry pick, but I'm just giving
Speaker 2: you a flavor for why this is so tricky. If
Speaker 2: you're managing teachers pension money and you want to just
Speaker 2: raise everyone's salary, that is on the backs of the teachers,
Speaker 2: which is not ethical and it's not our money, and
Speaker 2: that's like the fucking rationality used to just hide behind
Speaker 2: that to be like then the tea, that's the tea,
Speaker 2: it's the teachers.
Speaker 1: We're actually doing it for the teachers of America.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like like you come away from this
Speaker 2: interview is still kind of being like okay, like this
Speaker 2: seems not like a win win. It seems like a
Speaker 2: win maybe win if the environmental factors are precisely correct.
Speaker 3: It's like what they're giving you a cut of a
Speaker 3: company that they're about to run into the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they say, if if you guys can figure
Speaker 2: out how to save money, even better, because then we
Speaker 2: don't have to be we don't have to just start
Speaker 2: doing layoffs.
Speaker 3: Like what's happening in Hollywood right now too. It's like
Speaker 3: the thing that was happening in publishing where they run
Speaker 3: all the big companies, like your old school publishers like
Speaker 3: Simon and Schuster into the ground, and then.
Speaker 1: The company that just bought some.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, they're talking to the people who just bought
Speaker 2: them from. I think like it was like a carve
Speaker 2: out from Paramount or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they know how to plan.
Speaker 3: Their plan is to is to extract profits and get
Speaker 3: the fuck out of there. It's all and run all
Speaker 3: the way down.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And it's wild too because when this guy
Speaker 2: says like, we're not just here just purely for profits,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is then you wouldn't be running a
Speaker 2: fucking private equity firm right, Like, so I love that
Speaker 2: like the words come out this way. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a very it's an interesting, I think scheme from
Speaker 2: private equity to try and you know, save money in
Speaker 2: their own ways on like employee retention while trying to
Speaker 2: incentivize people to like stick around as long as possible
Speaker 2: before the inevitable because then they say stuff like we
Speaker 2: wouldn't just sell it to like another company who like
Speaker 2: doesn't have the same Ethos's like, really, if the fucking
Speaker 2: money is right, then then what right? I don't think
Speaker 2: that's the case.
Speaker 1: This is funny that like the global corporate media, we'll
Speaker 1: like find these examples where like if you look at
Speaker 1: it from a certain angle, it looks like, hey, this
Speaker 1: thing's working and it's really like helping out the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And anytime they're like, actually, check out this cool thing, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, really, no, they're doing something different.
Speaker 3: So I'm making March Simpson noises.
Speaker 1: My stomach starts making March Simpson noises. All right, let's
Speaker 1: cheer yourselves up by talking about how it continues to
Speaker 1: just keep raining shit on Rudy Giuliani. We've been hearing
Speaker 1: for a while that he's broke, can't pay his legal bills,
Speaker 1: and now his lawyers, the people who are supposed to
Speaker 1: be representing him, are suing him for one point three
Speaker 1: six million dollars in unpaid legal fees. He racked up
Speaker 1: fees and expenses totally more than one point five million dollars,
Speaker 1: but he only managed to pay two hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And his defense is just like, it's like
Speaker 1: really expensive, man, what the fuck cost so much? Are
Speaker 1: you serious? Dude?
Speaker 2: No way, no way, it's this high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is. By the way, so you know,
Speaker 1: he himself is a lawyer, and while he was representing Trump,
Speaker 1: he reportedly charged twenty thousand dollars a day.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know he's I like that, he really is.
Speaker 2: The way Rudy Giuliani says, it's a real shame when
Speaker 2: lawyers do things like this, And all I will say
Speaker 2: is that their bill is way in access to anything
Speaker 2: approaching legitimate fees. Sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 1: The lawyer that he's stiffed who is now suing him
Speaker 1: is one of his like oldest best friends. His friendship
Speaker 1: Giuliani dates back to the seventies when they were both
Speaker 1: prosecutors in the US Attorney's Office in the Southern District
Speaker 1: of New York.
Speaker 2: Wow, I wonder what the how that friendship started, Like
Speaker 2: where like if this his friend like Robert Costel and
Speaker 2: now is like look at you, now, Rudy, look at you.
Speaker 2: He got nothing, You got nothing. I mean we've seen
Speaker 2: how recently it's been all hands on deck to try
Speaker 2: and get him more money, because it felt like he
Speaker 2: was going to Trump and be like I got Bill's dude,
Speaker 2: and like you need to help me because like I
Speaker 2: know a lot of shit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then recently there was a fucking one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a plate fundraising dinner for Rudy Giuliani Trump specifically. So, yeah, love,
Speaker 2: I have a feeling I wonder he probably was able
Speaker 2: to pay a lot of that off. But anyway, who knows,
Speaker 2: who knows? He's too busy being Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like when the scammers get scammed, get yeah, taken.
Speaker 2: In for their scams by their own their own.
Speaker 3: The scammers scam each other, yeah, or you're just like
Speaker 3: none of these people have any loyalty to anyone but themselves.
Speaker 3: Of course they're all gonna like fuck each other over
Speaker 3: at the end and turn on each other. That to
Speaker 3: me seemed like the lynchpin of the whole Trump thing
Speaker 3: was like everyone he works everyone, he fucks everyone. But
Speaker 3: it's like everyone he works with is like somebody who
Speaker 3: would sell him out in a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and vice versa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they're all that's the best part when they
Speaker 3: all turn on each other at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm waiting to see how the dominoes fall, because
Speaker 2: it's every time we hear about this stuff happening in
Speaker 2: like Georgia or like Florida, there's more people who are like, actually,
Speaker 2: they do not want to have the same defense team
Speaker 2: as Trump now and realize that like they were being
Speaker 2: like nudged to do what was the best for Trump
Speaker 2: and not for them to be free.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how these people like sell themselves
Speaker 1: as like brilliant businessmen, and people are like, well, if
Speaker 1: you could make a billion dollars, like, surely he could
Speaker 1: run the country. Like their skill, the thing that they
Speaker 1: all have in common that they're good at, is the
Speaker 1: same skill displayed by if you've ever like been out
Speaker 1: to dinner with a group in like high school and
Speaker 1: everyone suddenly like, nah, I don't I don't have enough
Speaker 1: money to pay this, Like what are you talking about
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, like arguing over.
Speaker 2: The bill like that's before a homecoming dance.
Speaker 1: That is all that is their skill. They were just
Speaker 1: the most stubborn of the people who refused to pay
Speaker 1: for whatever they ordered and are like, no, that's you
Speaker 1: see right here on the menu it says twelve ninety nine,
Speaker 1: and so I put in twelve dollars and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we all also had drinks and no, no.
Speaker 3: No, those big Coca colas because we're in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly through that like weird brown plastic cup that
Speaker 2: was had the logo blast apps. You ordered the apps.
Speaker 1: You demanded that we ordered the app.
Speaker 3: You ordered the the mojo potatoes at Shakey's where we're
Speaker 3: having our dinner.
Speaker 1: I drove someone here, so like that costs gas money.
Speaker 1: Oh man, just we'll argue until you're too exhausted. I
Speaker 1: have I remember we Molly, you'll appreciate this. Before a dance,
Speaker 1: we went to Miss Ellie's right there across from the
Speaker 1: Gilain Maxwell in and out Michelli's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's how we say it. That's how we always
Speaker 1: say at school, We're going to Misslli's with the one
Speaker 1: sea that's why would always be like, oh I say.
Speaker 3: That, I say the accurate Italian yeah, better than me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But so we went and I remember one guy, just
Speaker 2: one dude, straight up just fucking just deny that they
Speaker 2: ordered the food.
Speaker 3: You're like, that's so funny. It was like, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would have to respect that because you're like friends. Well,
Speaker 3: he's like, well, where is it then?
Speaker 1: Now shout out to my friends from you know what
Speaker 1: they do now, and we all, every single one of us,
Speaker 1: was just like, nah, uh huh, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm not just gas grade apple.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't me, it was your idea. We came
Speaker 2: here because you said, yeah, not so we can't get.
Speaker 3: The discount's no, oh my god. It's amazing. There's one
Speaker 3: in Hollywood too. It's like the waiters also sing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh hell yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like a piano bar, and your waiter will be
Speaker 3: like your waiters like, here's your food, and then they
Speaker 3: like turn around and take a microphone and sing memory
Speaker 3: from Cats.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the food fantastically subpar.
Speaker 1: So yeah for the experience.
Speaker 2: You know, when you walk in, you're like, this food
Speaker 2: is not tasting great, but it will taste like Italian
Speaker 2: food as we know it by the American definition.
Speaker 3: I love those like mid Italian restaurants from the fifties.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's also like they have after somebody right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a fake balcony inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. It's like two inches deep.
Speaker 3: Oh we should go. Yeah, let me take you guys there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's great because it's like a karaoke thing, but you
Speaker 3: don't have to do karaoke.
Speaker 1: Is like.
Speaker 3: Waters are just singing. It's so weird. I love it very.
Speaker 1: Miles where you get your taste for the old country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from Misscelli's, as we would always incorrectly say in
Speaker 2: my limit school, and we will. We just can't. We
Speaker 2: can't let that pronunciation go. That guy who was duck
Speaker 2: in the bill, he went on to have a successful
Speaker 2: like chain of daycare centers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, profit king, you know, yeah, he knows
Speaker 1: how profit profit man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's got it.
Speaker 3: It's somebody's got to get shorted. In that case, it
Speaker 3: was you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And all right, let's take a quick break and come
Speaker 1: back and talk about something that we're all, every single
Speaker 1: one of us. If you're hearing my voice, and you don't,
Speaker 1: and you're not in the C suite at Lockheed Martin.
Speaker 1: You got shorted on this ship. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back, and let's talk about the lost F
Speaker 1: thirty five no longer lost, but was missing for about
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. The Pentagon announced that an F thirty
Speaker 1: five was miss as like what they're the height of technology.
Speaker 1: The Ferrari of Pentagon fighter jets just went missing somewhere
Speaker 1: in South Carolina after the pilot ejected for unknown reasons,
Speaker 1: possibly because he was yeading on this jet plane, as
Speaker 1: my Aka suggested. They have since located a debris field.
Speaker 1: But between Sunday and Tuesday, the government was just like
Speaker 1: at such a loss that they were posting online asking
Speaker 1: for any help from the public as if they were
Speaker 1: searching for like a lost dog and not an eighty
Speaker 1: million dollar aircraft or one hundred and sixty million dollars
Speaker 1: in it. No, so the person basically the person yeted
Speaker 1: the fuck out for reasons unknown, and then the plane
Speaker 1: just kept flying. And one problem is that it's you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it was on autopilot. And also it is
Speaker 1: designed not to be able to be seen by radar.
Speaker 2: Wait, so he ejected and the ship was on auto
Speaker 2: I guess so it was further after he where he
Speaker 2: actually ended up like being recovered.
Speaker 1: It took them forty eight hours to find it, so
Speaker 1: it clearly was not in It's not like it just
Speaker 1: went a couple extra miles like that. Shit just kept going.
Speaker 1: I don't know what what systems they have in place
Speaker 1: on this fucking thing.
Speaker 2: Their stealth, dude, that's what kind of system is?
Speaker 3: It tell me that the world's most advanced military aircrafts
Speaker 3: are working on the same level as like the self
Speaker 3: driving cars.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to say it is, but
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's wild to me that the concern wasn't this fucker
Speaker 1: is going to crash into a bunch of people, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's still.
Speaker 2: Still out there.
Speaker 3: They don't care about that. They're like, we don't care
Speaker 3: if it kills people. We care if we don't get
Speaker 3: it back so we can use it to kill more people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think donold Troy. Okay, but collateral damage.
Speaker 3: This is actually an incredible place for me to insert
Speaker 3: a really off topic story that would be sort of related.
Speaker 1: That is what you are.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm for.
Speaker 1: I just like what you're here for.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is the information I learned. And now
Speaker 3: it's been an intrusive thought that I was like, everybody
Speaker 3: has to know this. I have to tell everyone, which
Speaker 3: is that My other search recently was for the Henry
Speaker 3: Ford Museum for reasons I don't have to get into.
Speaker 3: And I learned that at the Henry Ford Museum, which
Speaker 3: is outside Detroit, they have the presidential limousine that JFK
Speaker 3: was assassinated in. After JFK was assassinated in it, they
Speaker 3: just refurbished it and used it for three more presidencies.
Speaker 3: WHOA for real, isn't that fucking crazy? What?
Speaker 2: So just some like what they just li soolid it
Speaker 2: down and we're like.
Speaker 3: All right, I sold it down. They added more secure. Yes,
Speaker 3: because the government is so cheap. They were like, we
Speaker 3: can't buy a new car for the president. We got
Speaker 3: to keep using this car that they killed the president in.
Speaker 1: The one with like the magic bullet.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also they just found a second bullet the.
Speaker 1: One he was sitting it. Yeah, he got his whole
Speaker 1: shit blown off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, they wiped it down down, wiped me down
Speaker 3: and then they used it, so it actually became the
Speaker 3: backup car. It like, wasn't I.
Speaker 1: Guess you've done your service.
Speaker 3: It was like the back It became the backup limousine.
Speaker 3: But it was like in the official fleet until through
Speaker 3: the Carter administration. Yeah wow, that means like LBJ rode
Speaker 3: in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Nixon.
Speaker 3: Nixon laid his big fat head against the place where JFK's.
Speaker 1: Got blown up, licked it a little bit.
Speaker 3: It isn't that crazy. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that after Johnson Richard Nixon used the
Speaker 2: car and requested additional modifications, creating a hatch in the
Speaker 2: roof where he could stand and wave to the crowd
Speaker 2: as he traveled the final Presidente's vehicles. Jimmy Carter officially
Speaker 2: retired to night.
Speaker 3: Okay, but also that's so funny that he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: this car that wasn't secure enough that you could like
Speaker 3: snipe a president through the window. I want a car
Speaker 3: sun roof so I can stand up.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a computable right, so here some roof
Speaker 1: in the convertible.
Speaker 2: But I think there were modifications. They put a roof
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: They were like, well that didn't work out, that went badly.
Speaker 2: Oh so they Yeah, there's like it looks like they
Speaker 2: had like a it's sort of in pieces and I
Speaker 2: subtract little.
Speaker 1: Really like shitty looking convertible.
Speaker 3: Is that insane though, that that after that happened, that
Speaker 3: they weren't like this.
Speaker 1: This this Kennedy car, Kennedy car, because all they could
Speaker 1: do to keep from selling it as the Kennedy addition.
Speaker 3: Right, Isn't that crazy? Okay? I felt like that's sort
Speaker 3: of the government wanting to chat back or I'm just
Speaker 3: like they're cheap. If they paid for something, they fucking
Speaker 3: are going to use it.
Speaker 1: They did not want they did not like, I mean,
Speaker 1: his brain went missing. They didn't want that car to
Speaker 1: be looked at or put in a museum where it
Speaker 1: could be observed.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that, yeah, right, that's not the real thing.
Speaker 3: Huh, Well, they don't want people to figure out, you know,
Speaker 3: all the stuff that JFK Jr.
Speaker 2: Is alive is actually Biden, thank you.
Speaker 1: They don't want people to know that what happened to
Speaker 1: Kennedy was that he got the vaccine.
Speaker 2: That's what I said.
Speaker 3: I say about RFK Junior though, is like of course
Speaker 3: he's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the government killed his dad and his uncle and
Speaker 3: made it look like a random person did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There was also a new break in the JFK thing
Speaker 3: or somebody who was like in the car that there
Speaker 3: was a second bullet, which is new.
Speaker 1: And the government second bullet. No no, yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: mean there's already two bullets.
Speaker 2: That we know of.
Speaker 3: There was like a second bullet in the car, in the.
Speaker 1: Car that they just like kind of kicked to the side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: LBJ found it, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's neat lb found it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then he passed a bunch of civil rights laws and
Speaker 3: then started the Vietnam War.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe a Secret Service agent accidentally blew Kennedy's head
Speaker 1: off accidentally or.
Speaker 3: Not, but oh, that's you believe in that one.
Speaker 1: I believe that one. Yeah, And that's why they were like,
Speaker 1: first of all, when they called RFK Junior, they were like, sir,
Speaker 1: there's been a terrible accident, and that was like the
Speaker 1: Secret Service calling and yeah, that's my that's the theory
Speaker 1: that makes the most sense to me. I believe that happened.
Speaker 3: There was a JFK com melt steel beams.
Speaker 1: His coum does melt still beams and a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't realize that. Yeah, then he needed to be stopped.
Speaker 3: People don't know that about Irish Catholics because.
Speaker 2: You gotta watch out for us folks, watch out dangerous.
Speaker 3: Don't don't underestimate the Irish.
Speaker 1: Irish It'll be fine either way.
Speaker 2: Either way.
Speaker 1: You'll be fine either way. That is something like I
Speaker 1: remember an old Irish man was like, you know what
Speaker 1: they said about Kennedy, like to me, like trying to
Speaker 1: give me Irish pride. He's like Kennedy always said, let
Speaker 1: him underestimate us. They always underestimate the Irish Catholics. Oh my,
Speaker 1: okay man, all.
Speaker 3: Right, I was kidding. But also he did Look one
Speaker 3: thing I'll say about Kennedy, he did leave his fluids
Speaker 3: all over that car and then Nixon had to like
Speaker 3: sit in them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on how well it was wiped down,
Speaker 2: though we don't know yet.
Speaker 3: That's power. There's no there's no wiping that down. You
Speaker 3: you can't wipe down the president's brain. You can't put
Speaker 3: a towel down a fucking.
Speaker 1: Murder car to like ride around murder car of the
Speaker 1: of the person who had your job is so wild,
Speaker 1: but also like suggests the level of complicity by LBJ
Speaker 1: and Nixon, which I'm not totally is not totally outside
Speaker 1: of the realm of post.
Speaker 2: They should have called Harvey Kaitel from Pulp Infant Pulp
Speaker 2: Fiction exactly.
Speaker 1: That's where they.
Speaker 3: Like every president, every president should have to like sit
Speaker 3: in a car filled with like the skeletons of other presidents. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's also like bodies of everyone murdered by the
Speaker 3: American Empire. It's like a really big car.
Speaker 2: It would be another planet. I think they would have
Speaker 2: to go to. But yeah, no, sit with the ghosts.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I do like in like England when they have all
Speaker 3: the scary like skeletons of famous dead people everywhere. Church,
Speaker 3: you know, there's that scary church. Yeah, there's like the
Speaker 3: scary church where like royals get married and it's full
Speaker 3: of like the skeleton of King whatever, bishop whomever, and
Speaker 3: like literally there's skeletons with like a crown on it.
Speaker 3: It's so scary. But it feels we should do more
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: America in general is like more all about that denial
Speaker 2: of death America.
Speaker 3: There's not a better explanation of America than just like
Speaker 3: wiping down the vinyl in the fucking car presidential limo.
Speaker 2: This never happened. The wheels rotated and literally, it's never happened.
Speaker 3: This limousine's fine, what car is and like literally like
Speaker 3: to America.
Speaker 1: To America being a drama queen. The way she was
Speaker 1: crawling all over the back of the car.
Speaker 2: She could attended, she could a dented the trunk and
Speaker 2: that would have come out of her end, but.
Speaker 3: She was in the car. All that stuff happened in
Speaker 3: this car that you then ride in and and that's
Speaker 3: so yeah, we're just like, nope, we wiped it down.
Speaker 3: This didn't happen, America.
Speaker 2: Wipe it down, because we did. We wiped it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we wiped it down, and bring the black light in here.
Speaker 2: They don't believe we didn't wipe it down. We took
Speaker 2: it to my friend Jimmy's house and had the wolf
Speaker 2: come by exactly. That's why I'm wearing this Banana Sluve shirt.
Speaker 3: That is what they did. Also, for sure they had
Speaker 3: Jimmy the Wolf come by to.
Speaker 1: Quick once over and then but it would be like
Speaker 1: if they did the Jimmy the Wolf thing and then
Speaker 1: instead of like having the car smashed at a you know,
Speaker 1: car smashing place at an auto yard. They they were
Speaker 1: like all right and then like putting this on to roh.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're just gonna put it right back out,
Speaker 1: all right. We do have to talk about that thirty
Speaker 1: five because right right, So one of its key advantages
Speaker 1: is it's near impossibility of being tracked by radar, So
Speaker 1: that makes it bad when it malfunctions and like ejects
Speaker 1: the pilot with that warning. This is the third military
Speaker 1: Class A mishappen the past six weeks. That Class A
Speaker 1: mishaps are incidents in which the damage involved racks up
Speaker 1: over two point five million dollars. But yeah, this is
Speaker 1: just the latest embarrassment involving the F thirty five jet.
Speaker 1: The story of this particular jet like really crystallizes the
Speaker 1: abject absurdity, grotesqueerye of our military spending. So the F
Speaker 1: thirty five initiative is the most expensive weapons program ever,
Speaker 1: estimated to cost taxpayers more than one trillion dollars over
Speaker 1: its sixty year lifespan. So, like, you know, a free
Speaker 1: healthcare for everyone is what this plane. Existence of this
Speaker 1: plane makes impossible. Estimates for twenty years were initially pegged
Speaker 1: at two hundred and thirty three billion dollars in the
Speaker 1: actual cost was nearly double that, So it's the one
Speaker 1: trillion estimate over the lifespan is probably low. And the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: like one of the problems is the Pentagon has always
Speaker 1: gone with a process of what's called concurrency with this,
Speaker 1: which is where you start production while the aircraft is
Speaker 1: still being developed.
Speaker 2: Concurrent build as you go, man, build as you go.
Speaker 2: We know the tires are going to look like that,
Speaker 2: so put those on.
Speaker 1: So you build the aircraft and then take off and
Speaker 1: then fix the problems while it's flying, is the idea proof.
Speaker 1: But this leads to unresolved technical problems that have plagued it,
Speaker 1: such as the fact that it doesn't operate well in rain,
Speaker 1: can't really work in rain in some cases. And so
Speaker 1: the Congress like institute this law that was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: can we take a look at these projects because like
Speaker 1: some of them don't make sense and you're spending like
Speaker 1: an entire European nations gross domestic product just to like
Speaker 1: build these fucking plans that don't work right, and sounds right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean the spending has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with keeping America safe. It's just more evidence that military
Speaker 1: spending is a mutually beneficial financial shell game between governments
Speaker 1: and corporations.
Speaker 2: Yeah that and like Lockheed has it. Lockheed has a
Speaker 2: stranglehold on like everything too, Like the whole thing is
Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin. Yeah, you can't, but it's like a fucking
Speaker 2: mcflurry machine. It's like, you can't send somebody else to
Speaker 2: do that. You got to have our people come by
Speaker 2: to do that. So they, like a lot of people
Speaker 2: say that, like who is it one of these people
Speaker 2: who was analyzing the Prome quote. I had a sense
Speaker 2: after my first ninety days that the government was not
Speaker 2: in charge of the program. Yes, makes sense.
Speaker 1: And none of them they don't get used. They keep
Speaker 1: making them and they're not being used because of a
Speaker 1: lack of spare parts and maintenance pain Dude, we're still
Speaker 1: the Vella. They're building it. They're building they're just like
Speaker 1: crapping these things out that can't work in the fucking
Speaker 1: rain and don't have any spare parts or maintenance equipment.
Speaker 1: Because they have there's only one place to get it,
Speaker 1: which is a corporation that has no competitive reason to
Speaker 1: do anything you needed to because they're the only ones
Speaker 1: who fucking make it, because it's like, okay, but go
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: Here, guys, what if we all get a steak in
Speaker 3: the jet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: I just worked on it a bit. If they said
Speaker 2: it was four hundred and thirty five billion in the
Speaker 2: first twenty years, we've all been paying seven dollars a year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: over the last twenty.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we all got like we all get to
Speaker 3: own like a little percentage of the the jet that
Speaker 3: they fly into nowhere.
Speaker 1: How the fuck is that not the case?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Like that we don't that like that, we don't aren't
Speaker 1: part owners of Lockheed Martin at this point, Like we're
Speaker 1: paying with our fucking tax dollars.
Speaker 3: Is a family, We're more like a family.
Speaker 1: Here your way into this family.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other really fucked up part is that, like,
Speaker 2: first of all, they're the largest institutional consumer of fossil fuels. Yes,
Speaker 2: and they recently told shareholders at a meeting to vote
Speaker 2: fucking no on a resolution that would have created a
Speaker 2: report on how the company is going to reduce fossil
Speaker 2: fuel use, like in line with the Paris Agreement. Uh,
Speaker 2: they said, quote in the board's reasoning shareholders should vote
Speaker 2: no on the resolution because it is premature and not
Speaker 2: in the best interest of our company or our shareholders.
Speaker 2: That Earth Earth death is not in our interest. And
Speaker 2: then also like when you look at it, like there
Speaker 2: was a study about like just greenhouse emissions from the
Speaker 2: beginning of the invasion of Afghanistan, and you know the
Speaker 2: largest portion of this is from military jets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cool, they use no But we need to
Speaker 1: like start fucking recycling more like if you it's your
Speaker 1: fault if you left an aluminum can and a trash
Speaker 1: can like that, that's what's causing climate change.
Speaker 2: Wait, what kind of straw are using? It's not that
Speaker 2: this jet uses one thousand This jet uses that one
Speaker 2: thousand straw, You motherfucker. One thousand, three hundred and forty
Speaker 2: gallons of jet fuel per hour is what users?
Speaker 3: What's that MPG on that man was not meant to fly?
Speaker 1: Man was meant to fly? In glimpse, yeah origin.
Speaker 3: If only we lived in the steam age.
Speaker 1: Well you we we it's coming back when we're all
Speaker 1: By the time we're elderly, we're all going to be
Speaker 1: living through another age of giant durrectuals.
Speaker 3: Jack Jack confirmed steam punk.
Speaker 2: Is that or is that the new way the fucking
Speaker 2: wealthy escape the hordes of the people. They go, we
Speaker 2: got to take to the skies.
Speaker 1: Actually, I bet they're easy to shoot down though, right.
Speaker 3: That's what they're gonna do with the spaceships.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like they gotta go. You can't just go.
Speaker 2: You can't go from Earth to spaceship right away. I
Speaker 2: feel like the middle you don't.
Speaker 3: Think Jeff Bezos, You don't think Bezos and Elon Musk
Speaker 3: and those guys don't have a spaceport lined up.
Speaker 2: They like, Yeah, I'm sure they do. But I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like I think for most people, like not everyone is
Speaker 2: gonna get there. I feel like there's gonna be like
Speaker 2: the five hundred feet in the sky version of a
Speaker 2: rich people city that only came down for Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: something like that. But yeah, eventually it will be space ships.
Speaker 3: But it'll be a city made of jets, city made
Speaker 3: of fighter jets, and everybody flies with little fighter jets around.
Speaker 3: It's like a little top gun world.
Speaker 2: Oh perfect.
Speaker 3: Personally, I can't wait because I'll definitely be one of
Speaker 3: the chosen ones and not one of the people left
Speaker 3: to die on How does it.
Speaker 1: Burns because bloodstream is just forty percent jet fuel.
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, Yeah, I can't wait. Maybe I'll
Speaker 3: get to live in a house here. All the rich people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll run them all out of town. We'll I'll
Speaker 2: run them into the sky. That's right, guys.
Speaker 3: You know what else they have at the Henry Ford Museum.
Speaker 3: I want to go there so bad now. They have
Speaker 3: the fucking chair Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2: Really the place, it's all seating where people have had
Speaker 2: their fucking dome piece.
Speaker 1: It's only progressives who got murdered in the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a warning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bitch, that's righteout Henry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking sit down, watch your back. That's all we
Speaker 2: got to say over here. Wow, can you sit in it?
Speaker 1: No, they also got the shoes. They also have the
Speaker 1: sandals Gandhi was wearing when he got.
Speaker 3: Henry Ford was for sure like, I'll see you at
Speaker 3: the cross. Yeah, that's what Henry Ford said to the
Speaker 3: jeers in my model when he was reprinting the Protocols
Speaker 3: of the Elders of Zion and trying to get distributed.
Speaker 1: Putting everybody's glove compartment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Gideons, except with anti semitism.
Speaker 1: Here. Well, Molly Lambert as always, what a pleasure having you.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all they can?
Speaker 3: You can find me. I'm on Instagram at Molly Underscore Lambert.
Speaker 3: I am on TikTok now just lurking so far at
Speaker 3: Molly Lambert World. And yeah, hopefully have a new podcast
Speaker 3: coming out sometime. Yeah, listen to you, but also check
Speaker 3: out Heidi World if you haven't yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go listen to that right now, right now.
Speaker 3: Put my put my bones in it.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you put your bones in this one.
Speaker 3: I put my bones, my whole bones into it.
Speaker 1: And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying,
Speaker 1: like an interview that you were about to tell us
Speaker 1: about recently or something?
Speaker 3: Oh the Yon Winner interviewed with David Marchase.
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't read I need to read that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's just like, yeah, there were no
Speaker 3: women who I thought were like interesting, No women or
Speaker 3: people of color I thought were like worth including in
Speaker 3: my conversations with great musicians. Yeah, they're like not Joni Mitchell.
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, I don't think she's very good.
Speaker 3: It's just crazy. I mean, Yon Winner is you know,
Speaker 3: we've been known we've been yeah, a racist misogynist. But
Speaker 3: it's crazy to see someone just be like yo, doubling down, getting.
Speaker 1: Down much cultural influence from a magazine. They're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what else?
Speaker 1: Sorry? I forced that one on you? Is there anything else?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, what's that? What else? Let's keep it, Let's
Speaker 3: do a lighter one. I'm gonna say that. Tate McGray
Speaker 3: video just a little, nice little audi the automn Bop
Speaker 3: for the girlies, about you know, getting your mojo back
Speaker 3: after your hockey player boyfriend cheats on you. I going
Speaker 3: to an ice.
Speaker 2: Rink and dancing, dancing with that old glove on.
Speaker 3: Dancing with a weird glove on. I'm stuck. Doesn't use
Speaker 3: like a hockey stick? Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it felt. I think it was one
Speaker 2: of those things where the stylist was like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like this, maybe he's like you could dance with yeah,
Speaker 2: like is he not gonna do it with shoulder pads
Speaker 2: like shin guard or some other Well you could though.
Speaker 3: It really opens up possibilities for hockey hockey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is like our.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there's a lot of gear and like blades, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of blades.
Speaker 1: I've always found the Jason where he's hockey mask, deeply irotic, erotic.
Speaker 3: Well, we've brought it back to Jason Voorhies. Oh, I
Speaker 3: guess that would be good Halloween costume.
Speaker 1: Before we started.
Speaker 3: It was before we started. But people love to be
Speaker 3: included in our extended universe that includes the things we
Speaker 3: were talking about before the show starts recording.
Speaker 1: Talking about Yeah, we were talking about Jason Boorhes and
Speaker 1: whether he should be an anti gun advocate because he
Speaker 1: clearly like he uses a cushions a gun. He knows
Speaker 1: about that. He gets shot all the time. But he's
Speaker 1: as a blade king.
Speaker 3: People have sexy Jason.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be searched sexy Jason Voorhies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's like, you know, he's the originator of
Speaker 3: honey chic.
Speaker 2: Look at this one where he's he's ripping open that worksuit.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jason, bad day at that, Jason Badi YadA ya.
Speaker 2: Miles.
Speaker 1: Where people find you as their work of media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying, you.
Speaker 2: Can find me trying to use generative AI to make
Speaker 2: an even sexier Jason Vos. But also at Miles of
Speaker 2: gray wherever they got names like that for you to
Speaker 2: enter and find me. I'm there Instagram, Twitter, not even
Speaker 2: saying formerly formerly x, actually Twitter formerly x. I'm there
Speaker 2: as well, and also find us on MOUs with Jack Out,
Speaker 2: Matt Boosties, find me on The Good Thief, which is
Speaker 2: the true crime show, and Fourance where we talk. Ninety
Speaker 2: day tweet I like is from at Internet hippo and
Speaker 2: he says, in blue check voice, let me get this string.
Speaker 2: Every day it gets a little dark time it gets
Speaker 2: every day gets dark a little earlier, and we're supposed
Speaker 2: to believe this is normal. It's like peak blue check.
Speaker 2: Fucking viral tweet and I love that they captured the
Speaker 2: voice of that thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A couple tweets I've been enjoying Molly Goodfellow at Hans Smallman,
Speaker 1: Hans Molman, whoops.
Speaker 2: Hans small Man.
Speaker 1: In this situation, I am uh tweet block me if
Speaker 1: you want, but I'm excited for it to get colder
Speaker 1: at night so I can truly be on my snug
Speaker 1: as a bug in a rug game, which I just
Speaker 1: love a controversial take like that, and I'm at uncool
Speaker 1: boyfriend tweeted your honor who gives a fuck low key
Speaker 1: and just like like that energy, bring it, Bring it
Speaker 1: into the courtroom.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: we got our Facebook page, our website. What we link
Speaker 1: off to, uh the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a footnotes and we also
Speaker 1: like off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what is a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be a track called Endless
Speaker 2: by a k N and listened to. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like a real like hardhouse mashup. It's just about yadaya.
Speaker 2: Also you know what actually truth Be Told a song
Speaker 2: I first heard on TikTok ha ha ha ha ha,
Speaker 2: but ends up being one of those things, one of
Speaker 2: those joints them that you can only get on SoundCloud.
Speaker 2: So check this out. It's only on SoundCloud and it's
Speaker 2: the artist AKN and the track is called Endless.
Speaker 1: Is it the one where the person is rapping about
Speaker 1: getting it out? Of the car.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly don't. So that is what put us on
Speaker 2: the Jason.
Speaker 1: Boardhees conversation in the first place. This is truly this
Speaker 1: episode is like folding in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're being the mister show where you bring it
Speaker 3: all around to the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking.
Speaker 1: We were talking about British rappers who like rap about blades,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I wish I had a clock, but
Speaker 1: I have a big fifteen blade instead, I'll stab.
Speaker 4: You with it.
Speaker 1: But you know I wish that I wish I could
Speaker 1: rap about gun play, right, I will clap your luck anyways?
Speaker 1: That any kind of sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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