Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
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Speaker 1: Hey Scott Patterson. Here, I am all in podcast with
Speaker 1: our Heart Radio and one eleven productions. We are digging
Speaker 1: in a little deeper here two Star Cross Lovers and
Speaker 1: Other Strangers, Episodes sixteenth. Because I don't think we are.
Speaker 1: We really didn't. We didn't really finish up, no, because
Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about how mad would you be
Speaker 1: if you were lower Lie and your mom set you
Speaker 1: up and you didn't even know? Uh with that guy,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I started laughing right away. When as
Speaker 1: soon as she said, mom, can I see you in
Speaker 1: the kitchen a minute, the doorbell rang. I knew she
Speaker 1: was hosed. I was at the door. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That was just funny. Are you setting me up? Chase? Wow?
Speaker 1: And you could tell Richard was like not having it,
Speaker 1: but he's trying to trying to be polite and go
Speaker 1: along with it, and Emily is just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: as Chase is just talking about the most nonsensical boring
Speaker 1: or crap. You know, That's what's so brilliant about the
Speaker 1: show is you get this sense of history between these
Speaker 1: characters especially, and it's for me, it's even more impactful
Speaker 1: father and daughter. It's Richard and Laurela that's really getting
Speaker 1: to me, because you know, he's so disappointed, he's so crushed,
Speaker 1: he's so sort of steely with her. He's so eye
Speaker 1: rolling and side glancing, and oh, good god, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to endure this without Rory here. You know, Rory
Speaker 1: is the the light of the world, and now I
Speaker 1: have to deal with my my failure of a daughter.
Speaker 1: And there's all that tension. It always remains. She has
Speaker 1: that nervous energy, right, and she just can't stop herself
Speaker 1: because you know, she just feels she's being judged and
Speaker 1: it's a horrible feeling, and she is being judged and anyway, um,
Speaker 1: it's always wonderful. That wonderful moment when she escaped and
Speaker 1: Richard caught her and he just let her go because
Speaker 1: she made her little speech, and those are the moments
Speaker 1: that bring those two characters together, and it really resonate
Speaker 1: with me. Those are my favorite moments of that of
Speaker 1: the probably the series so far that my favorite moments
Speaker 1: are between father and daughter. Yeah, he says so much
Speaker 1: in a glance and he says no, Emily, I haven't
Speaker 1: I haven't found her, and then a little glance and
Speaker 1: there's there's there's some dejection in there, and there's some hurt,
Speaker 1: but there's still I love you. You're my daughter. And
Speaker 1: this is how life went. And it wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: go this way for me, Richard Gilmore, but it did.
Speaker 1: And maybe I am not dealing with it the way
Speaker 1: I should be, but this is how I'm dealing with it.
Speaker 1: And it's just these are very powerful moments. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's the it's the soul of familial love. It's like,
Speaker 1: even though you have these types of characters, these very uh,
Speaker 1: very wealthy people who are very disappointed, um, he still
Speaker 1: finds his love for her and they find their love
Speaker 1: for each other. So it's for me, these are very
Speaker 1: touching moments. I really really think those are the most
Speaker 1: powerful moments for me. Anyway. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: guys feel, but those are very no I I agree.
Speaker 1: So here's my next question for you. Do you think
Speaker 1: lor Lie called Max because of Luke and rachel Or
Speaker 1: because she was just so like, I cannot be set
Speaker 1: up again by my mother. I gotta get get this
Speaker 1: handled on my own. Well, I think you know that
Speaker 1: whole episode was set up to show people kissing, especially
Speaker 1: at the beginning. You know, it's like the episode should
Speaker 1: have been called Everybody's getting some except for moral. I
Speaker 1: I mean, even Suki and Jackson are macking in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and Michelle is on the phone
Speaker 1: with his which is another funny line, right, was that
Speaker 1: your mom? Remember I'm gonna redo my funny line because
Speaker 1: Michelle is going on like guns wait to see you, Sherry, All, yes,
Speaker 1: don't tease me that you know this kind anything. My
Speaker 1: friend Jackson isn't very good, but um when he gets off,
Speaker 1: she says, your mother, But I mean even Michelle, even
Speaker 1: Michelle is getting some. You know, everybody's in love. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. That could be also, it just through Laurela
Speaker 1: back to she's the odd man out man. Now she's
Speaker 1: you know, she's gonna go back to to Max. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think the the what's her
Speaker 1: name that came back into my life? What's her name? Rachel? Rachel?
Speaker 1: I think Rachel. Can you remember those scenes like did
Speaker 1: you have good chemistry with Lisa Anne Hadley? She was
Speaker 1: very nice, She was really sweet. Yeah, she was a
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air when she came on set because
Speaker 1: she was just so lovely. Everybody loved her. Well, she
Speaker 1: does look like Suki described her, But you know what,
Speaker 1: she was perfectly cast because she's the type of face
Speaker 1: and voice and personality and person that you could say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that not a perfect fit, and she's probably
Speaker 1: too good for him somehow, or she's too you know,
Speaker 1: she's not a small town girl. She's too sophisticated. She's
Speaker 1: got that's what I got. Yeah, it was kind of
Speaker 1: perfect casting there, right, because you don't see those two together.
Speaker 1: You see him pining for her and not being able
Speaker 1: to make it work. When he's sitting in the crappy
Speaker 1: car that he's building at the Gelape and he says,
Speaker 1: I love you and she's like, well, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Middle East. Now I get why Luke and
Speaker 1: Rachel like each other, but I think Luke knows she's
Speaker 1: she's gonna leave. Yeah, she loves him, he loves her,
Speaker 1: but she's gonna leave. How does he feel now? He's shocked.
Speaker 1: He's shocked. It's it's overwhelming for him. He doesn't know
Speaker 1: what to do. It it's like, you know, he's into Laurel.
Speaker 1: I now, boy, it's like, you know, it's it's raining
Speaker 1: women for Luke's getting wet and she knows it. Rachel
Speaker 1: knows there's something going on and asked and says, what's
Speaker 1: going on? I mean it turned into an episode of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor This Rose except this Rose. Yeah. Oh, and Danielle.
Speaker 1: This is the episode where the boom mit gets into
Speaker 1: the shot. Tell everybody where so we don't have clown pillow,
Speaker 1: but we do got to Mike and the boom mic.
Speaker 1: You can see, um it starts the beginning of the
Speaker 1: episode when Loralai is calling Emily telling her that Rory
Speaker 1: won't be at Friday night dinner. Um. So at seven
Speaker 1: oh seven, if you just zoom into that time code
Speaker 1: on the episode, you'll see the boom mic in at
Speaker 1: the top of the screen. You know, those poor guys,
Speaker 1: you know how hard they work. You know hard that
Speaker 1: job is because the only position they have to stand
Speaker 1: on a ladder, on a short ladder, three or four
Speaker 1: step ladder. They have to stand on top of that.
Speaker 1: Because I remember one of the guy, Dennis was I
Speaker 1: don't know, he was like sixty and he had a
Speaker 1: bad knee, and you know he had a bad elbow,
Speaker 1: and he was just doing it his whole life. And
Speaker 1: he had to stand on top of this little mini
Speaker 1: ladder and hold the boom mic which is heavy. It's
Speaker 1: a long pole with the mic on the end of it,
Speaker 1: with your phones on, and hold it above his head
Speaker 1: for all the rehearsals and all those seen, all those
Speaker 1: takes we had to do, and know every once in
Speaker 1: a while it would come into view. You know, those
Speaker 1: those guys worked hard, man, they really did so to
Speaker 1: be expected. Does everyone here celebrate their three month anniversaries?
Speaker 1: What's a teenager for what we make? Garrian Dean? Um No,
Speaker 1: I never did that. To see somebody doing it, right,
Speaker 1: isn't it? That's very sweet? And it was Dean's idea, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just turned to mush the whole thing. He just
Speaker 1: turned to Mushy. Look. Credit to him. He realized what
Speaker 1: he what he was dating, who he was dating, and
Speaker 1: how special she is. So you know it worked him.
Speaker 1: He got lucky and he blew that fancy restaurant. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he takes her to a junkyard and sits
Speaker 1: in a junkie corvariance as I want don bad move
Speaker 1: if I was. If I was, his older brother said,
Speaker 1: don't do that. I love you the only thing you
Speaker 1: have going for you if you don't say it, But
Speaker 1: why not you live and learn? Yeah, because it's like
Speaker 1: you don't. It's like giving it's it's it's like giving
Speaker 1: the audience what they want right away. They think they
Speaker 1: want it, and they don't. And if they get it,
Speaker 1: it's like why the Luke and Laurel Lize story, uh,
Speaker 1: indoors because it took four years for them to get together.
Speaker 1: You don't do it for a couple of episodes and
Speaker 1: say I love you. So you know, that's just human psychology.
Speaker 1: That's basic human psychology. Man. Once somebody has given all
Speaker 1: that power and they're seventeen or sixteen, oh that's the
Speaker 1: kiss of death right there. He put Rory in an
Speaker 1: impossible situation, you know, and I thought she handled it
Speaker 1: very well. Acting wise. It was work wonderfully commedic. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's what's a young girl supposed to do in the
Speaker 1: face of that? You know? But speaking of comedic? Sorry
Speaker 1: did change the subject, but I can't. When when Lane
Speaker 1: goes by, it just came back to me, like people
Speaker 1: all the relatives of the like gyropractor or whatever. He's
Speaker 1: going to be a chiropractor. And she's like, my mom's
Speaker 1: giving up on me because she's lowering up from She'll
Speaker 1: take a cairopractor. At this point, Oh name, I took
Speaker 1: us off track, no important time. You took us to
Speaker 1: a wonderful place. You did. It's a wonderful place to visit,
Speaker 1: um um. But anyway, Yeah, so I thought I thought
Speaker 1: Rory handled I thought Alexis handled it beautifully. Ye, it
Speaker 1: handled it. It handled it beautifully. Easy for me to say,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but I mean, yeah, you can't give the
Speaker 1: girl the power right there. You can't cough it on its.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. And I've done it. I did it
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. It was always the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to do. Is there always a bad idea? I
Speaker 1: you know, I was right. In my junior high school
Speaker 1: there was a girl who I was in love with.
Speaker 1: And I didn't lose her because I said I loved her.
Speaker 1: I lost her because we were both running against each
Speaker 1: other for class president of seventh grade. And I gave
Speaker 1: a fiery speech. I gave a very fiery, passionate speech.
Speaker 1: And then she dumped me after that because she saw
Speaker 1: how much she because she saw how much I wanted
Speaker 1: to win the race of the election. Tough and seventh
Speaker 1: grade man easy being seventh grader. Um, you had bad moves,
Speaker 1: bad strategic move from tough Chicago kid who's got it
Speaker 1: all the mystery. He had all the mystery, he had
Speaker 1: all the psychological advantage, he had all the power, and
Speaker 1: he just umped it. Interlap And on a final note
Speaker 1: before we go, how about how Laura Lene knew Rory
Speaker 1: comes in, doesn't say anything, just the face, Laura line knows,
Speaker 1: hangs up the phone. Yeah, a mother knows, the father knows. It.
Speaker 1: Just takes a look. It's a mood, sure, tough, tough stuff,
Speaker 1: tough stuff with the Dean. Started out so cool, so
Speaker 1: self assured, so a little cocky, a lot cocky, and
Speaker 1: then man, he just he just puked it away. Can't
Speaker 1: we speculate what voicemail lorel I would have left if
Speaker 1: Rory didn't walk in. Oh, maybe it was gonna be
Speaker 1: another Max Hi, I miss you, I love you, I
Speaker 1: love you. Who knows? I don't know what do you
Speaker 1: think she was gonna say? Probably something very clever and
Speaker 1: fast paced, like uh you uh Flora line, just wondering
Speaker 1: how you're doing, thinking about you know that that one
Speaker 1: slice of pizza we had. I thought, you know, I
Speaker 1: should have had a larger slice than you. But you know, anyway,
Speaker 1: call me, let's discuss it um because it's important. I
Speaker 1: can't get any sleep over it. Um. You know, something
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know, it's pretty solid. I'm not
Speaker 1: a writer, but I'm not a writer of television. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it would have been clever, and it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been obvious, but it would have been and I
Speaker 1: think Max would have enjoyed. She's she's got games. She's
Speaker 1: pretty solid. I feel like she's got a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she she's If anybody in that show's got game, it's her.
Speaker 1: She's not gonna let anybody get psychological advantage over her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that's why she's you know, she's got those
Speaker 1: walls up. She's got a lot of walls. You know.
Speaker 1: We shall see, we shall see break up part two.
Speaker 1: So the required reading for this week for a book
Speaker 1: is Son at forty three by Elizabeth Barrett Browning, and
Speaker 1: Tristan quotes this when he's walking away from the girls
Speaker 1: at Children hallway. So let's get on that. M all right, everybody.
Speaker 1: That's it. Uh boy, this is a fun episode. Nice
Speaker 1: unpacking it. We could go on all day, but these
Speaker 1: ladies good job to do. They have to make these episodes,
Speaker 1: so they gotta get on it anyway. Uh, thank you Danielle,
Speaker 1: Thank you Riley, Thank you Amy for stopping by yet again. Um.
Speaker 1: What a ball club, what a team? Um and uh
Speaker 1: and that's it. Thanks for downloading, Thanks for listening. We'll
Speaker 1: see you next time with the Breakup, Part two, Episode seventeen.
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