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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I also just always hated Peyton Manning's looks

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Speaker 1: Is that our house or our house? Our house? Eric?

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Speaker 1: You you know what a dictionary? You just look it up? Looster,

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Speaker 1: my word for Loochester. Eric, how many syllables does oh?

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Speaker 1: You are have? Look it up? I don't have a

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Speaker 1: Or any of you playing wordle? I played? Do you

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Speaker 1: play right? Why not? He gets so upset? Well, the

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Speaker 1: way you answered him, Now what I'm going to explain

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Speaker 1: all the rules. If you're interested, go find out our

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Speaker 1: Fred Yeah, once again, Mike do so closet, bad guy

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Speaker 1: Don't break your own and as I sent him off here.

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Speaker 1: Just because he has a smile on his face when

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Speaker 1: I mean all right, you mean so? Um, I guess

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Speaker 1: the big news and Patriots world is Matt Jones little

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Speaker 1: the Matt Jones passing camp in Tampa. Yeah, I see

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Speaker 1: should not focus so much on that. Why it was

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Speaker 1: on the internet. We didn't put it out he did, okay,

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Speaker 1: did think Jacobe Myers looked big. Paul pointed out Devantae

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Speaker 1: They all had the short off except mac wow. Oh

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Speaker 1: the role of middle school due. So that's good to see.

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Speaker 1: How many harumps were? There were several harumps, several they

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Speaker 1: meeting in harumps, Fred did oh really there were several harrumps?

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Speaker 1: Yea from you or from. We don't know who the

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Speaker 1: We don't know. I know who I voted for. I

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Speaker 1: Joe Horrigan got it from from Pro Football. Um no,

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Speaker 1: ill tweeted out who do you guys like? And the

423
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Speaker 1: vast majority of my mentions were like, can we just

424
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Speaker 1: you know, get it over with your followers? But but

425
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Speaker 1: that that could be true. But Parsels has been and

426
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Speaker 1: he has been a finalist, and he's not come close,

427
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Speaker 1: right vote yeah, And I don't think he ever will listen, Like,

428
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, like, you know, go on strike if

429
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Speaker 1: he gets in, because you're, like, you know, like because

430
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Speaker 1: you're fire, you're you're you're you're like balanced. You look

431
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Speaker 1: at things from from a couple of different ways. When

432
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Speaker 1: you're not on this. I just can't get over, Like

433
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Speaker 1: because it's a team Hall of Fame, I just can't

434
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Speaker 1: get over how he treated the team. Yeah. I mean

435
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Speaker 1: that's like like if if you were IBM and you

436
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Speaker 1: had like employee of the Centuries, you know, awards and

437
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: you know, there was this amazing salesperson, but at the

438
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Speaker 1: end he like torched the place. I just can't put

439
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Speaker 1: him in there like any other company. I know, sports

440
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: is different, but who shall not be named, yes, probably

441
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Speaker 1: not gonna get into the hall. Yeah right, you know,

442
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: so like I don't know what about that that makes

443
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Speaker 1: me think of Moss. Yeah, like if he were here longer,

444
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: like I think most people think he wasn't here long enough.

445
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: If he was here a lot, he'd be a shoeing Yeah.

446
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Speaker 1: I think that's the problem with Moss. He's a tough

447
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Speaker 1: one because because of the way he left so well,

448
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: but he was okay, he kind of talked his way out,

449
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: like yeah, oh yeah. I definitely like Mancus had Mancus

450
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Mancus had acrimony with the team. I think he should

451
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Speaker 1: be in Yeah. I mean, you know, um a little

452
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Speaker 1: so I don't bless A little different when when you're

453
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Speaker 1: a player. You can't control that a lot of time.

454
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Speaker 1: You know, you have to stick up for yourself sometimes

455
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Speaker 1: because it's such a business. But Paracels didn't need to

456
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Speaker 1: do what he did. Yeah, the compact was thick in

457
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Speaker 1: this morning is I'm like Parcels. He's kind of one

458
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Speaker 1: of the grandfathers of the Patriots dynasty. But he cheated

459
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Speaker 1: on grandma and he took the dog with him when

460
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Speaker 1: he left him and Curtis Mark, you know, like, I

461
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: can't get that propaganda thing out, can't get take the

462
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Speaker 1: boy out of the propaganda, can't take it's a good cup.

463
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Speaker 1: But I but I get how people are, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: like at least reasonable about it. I just don't get

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Speaker 1: the people like absolutely not. His record wasn't good. It's

466
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Speaker 1: like that's stupid. Did you live here? Did you? Did you?

467
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Speaker 1: Like you can't dismiss it completely because I lived here.

468
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Speaker 1: And the Patriots were terrible patriots born in the NFL. Right,

469
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: they were not even they were not even an NFL team.

470
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Speaker 1: And if they had like, like you get delegated, what

471
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Speaker 1: is it called regular? What is it called when you

472
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Speaker 1: get relegated? Yeah, there's the right word. Yeah, if they

473
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Speaker 1: had that, the Patriots would have been relegated. Well, yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: I mean before he got things went really I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: they did make the Super Bowl in night, you know,

476
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Speaker 1: in eighty five and all that, but things went really

477
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Speaker 1: downhill after that, you know, and the Sullivans just didn't

478
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Speaker 1: have the money and the team was just and then

479
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Speaker 1: kai Am comes in and he's ridiculous, and I'll say,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on Fred's side, even though I am

481
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Speaker 1: a pro parcels guy in the hall. Fred says, you know,

482
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Speaker 1: I just can't overlook. Yeah, if this, if it didn't

483
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Speaker 1: have anything to do with the way he left, this

484
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a discussion. Like anybody that says his record

485
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Speaker 1: wasn't good enough doesn't really deserve to have an opinion

486
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: because you can't look past anything that's on a spreadsheet.

487
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Speaker 1: Who he's thirty two and thirty two like that tells

488
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Speaker 1: you what he did, having no idea what he inherited.

489
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Speaker 1: And you know, you know that was talked about yesterday too. Yeah,

490
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: he came in, took a two and fourteen team that

491
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Speaker 1: didn't have two NFL players, let alone enough to compete.

492
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Speaker 1: They went one and eleven to start. They were pretty

493
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Speaker 1: good after that, you know what you know. And the

494
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Speaker 1: point we talked about this morning was how many of

495
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Speaker 1: the members of the Hall of Fame did he bring in,

496
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Speaker 1: Like how many of those guys did he draft or

497
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Speaker 1: even guys you know, just uh, you know, it was

498
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Speaker 1: what Troy Brown, William McGinnis, ty law he brought in.

499
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Speaker 1: Adam vinitary lawyer Malloy is another Hall of Fame calibre player.

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Speaker 1: Bruce in the Hall Drew who, like the nucleus of

501
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Speaker 1: the First Dynasty, was brought by Bill Parcels and and

502
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Speaker 1: developed by Bill Parcels and just like I would say,

503
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Speaker 1: Chuck Fairbanks deserves strong consideration for the same exact thing

504
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Speaker 1: in the seven seventies. Now it didn't have as much success.

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Speaker 1: He's among the nominees. Correct, he was nominated, Yes, he

506
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Speaker 1: was one of the nine. He was, Oh, he was

507
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Speaker 1: one of them yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought the ballot.

508
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Speaker 1: He never he's never on a ballot. I don't think

509
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Speaker 1: I believe he was a finalist. Oh really one year? Yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: I think I actually wrote something for my pass, popping

511
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Speaker 1: in a sight kind of just making a case for you, Chuck, mean,

512
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Speaker 1: just making a case for him. Of I nominated you

513
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Speaker 1: know what he did and uh, you know, and also

514
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Speaker 1: to the element of the offensive and defensive schemes that

515
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Speaker 1: were developed here are still the ones that they kind

516
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Speaker 1: of the great the great point that I believe Ernie

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Speaker 1: has made in the past. Oh yeah, right, I just

518
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Speaker 1: got an Ernie comp right there, I'm done, drop the mic,

519
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, And people talk about it all

520
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: the time, you know, you know, and Ernie's talked about

521
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Speaker 1: this on the record. Again. This is why I'm not

522
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Speaker 1: this is not a Hall of Fame talk. But everything

523
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Speaker 1: they did, everything that they do comes from Yeah, seven

524
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: seventies patriots. Ye Are you allowed to say who was

525
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: in the room? Oh yeah, But for the members of

526
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: the committee, yeah, that's pub I think that's public. Ernie

527
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Speaker 1: among them. No, he couldn't make it. He was stuck

528
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Speaker 1: in Florida or something like that, or he couldn't get

529
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Speaker 1: a flight, I think. Yeah. Usually all those cancelations that

530
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Speaker 1: they had in times mostly media guys. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Reeves, Tom currn uh, you know, Jim McBride from

532
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Speaker 1: the Globe, Karen greegean from the Herald, you know, Fred

533
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Speaker 1: and I, Matt Smith, Brian Moorey comes back, for it,

534
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: um So Multims, Mark Farnella, Glenn Farley, uh, Bill Burt

535
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: but Sterns Sterns, Joe mro CEOs Sino. Joe's on the committee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

536
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Joe does a good job on the twenty guys. One

537
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: of our old stats guys who's been here forever is

538
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. Um, Hendry, I don't know about you, Henry.

539
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: No one does voting open up to the fans. That'll

540
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Speaker 1: be yeah, coming at the end of the month, end

541
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Speaker 1: of the I would think that we will keeple weeks. Yeah,

542
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: I think it'll be. It'd be sooner than later because

543
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: that's usually well in play at the draft. As I

544
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: made the comments, are you guys usually uh surprised or

545
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: do you usually think they get who you think it's

546
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna be them fans? Yeah, I mean you guys nominate them,

547
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: but I assume you have a feeling it's probably gonna

548
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: be this guy. Is that usually who the fans go with?

549
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I know I almost never get it right. I don't

550
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: I almost never. I think I can tell you who

551
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: I predict the fans will pick, and I get that

552
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: right mostly, but it's not. It's not generally who I

553
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: think it should be Paul hates the fans because I

554
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: can pick it because I think that it's a popularity contest.

555
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. Five five Pats five hundred

556
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: is the A Sticket hot line. Web radio at Patriots

557
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: dot com is the email address. No transactions since the

558
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: last time we had a show. Quiet. Things are a

559
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: little quiet right now. Various visits popping up, various visits.

560
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Tiger even par after four. So Andrew Booth, I think

561
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: was here yesterday, cornerback. That's that's a big offensive lineman. Yeah,

562
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Deuce has lead me to a take development. Oh yeah, yeah,

563
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I really like this Scarred from Boston College

564
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: Zion John Yeah or Andrew Booth, you know, like that's

565
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: like don't you just think that that would be like

566
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: the perfect for Patriots fans. They take a guard at

567
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty one, right, so local, local guy. That's why that's

568
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: why they get rid of shock, right, they knew because

569
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Speaker 1: they could save money and get a guy just as

570
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: good in the draft. I hope not the guy all right, Interesting,

571
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: we have it on the record beforehand. I like that

572
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker from Georgia's getting a lot of yan. Yeah,

573
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean. I, um, it was funny. We talk about

574
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: just a tremendous college boy he is, and I look

575
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: at him in Lloyd and yesterday Paul was before talking

576
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Speaker 1: about watching offensive Line with TJ. Yesterday I was watching

577
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean and Devin Lloyd with with Mike Son Campbell,

578
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: trying to get a feel for who I like better.

579
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: I think they're both potential options there, and I admittedly

580
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Speaker 1: like I was a little bit like Dean man it

581
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: seems small, but I just think with him, I've really

582
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: come around and I feel like both those guys would

583
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: be excellent. But I think with Dean, I think I'm

584
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Speaker 1: leaning a little bit towards him just because he's a player.

585
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Speaker 1: But he's a football he would be he would be

586
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: breaking the mold. He would be never had that sideline

587
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: to sideline guy. But he you know when it's like

588
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you watched him, small guy like Zach Thomas type of player,

589
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: you never had a small inside. Yeah, he's able to

590
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: read through all the RPO stuff. I mean, he just

591
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: he he sees it, any reacts and I think his size,

592
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how it all fits together, but I

593
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: think like at the end of the day, what I

594
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: what I kind of grabbed onto is Bill being like,

595
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: can he play football? You know? And I think that's why.

596
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: But I think both those guys are are excellent. They

597
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: can run, you know, It's just Lloyd's a little bit

598
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Speaker 1: bigger and maybe you know, plays off the edge a

599
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: little bit more, so maybe he fits that mold a

600
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit more. But I think both those guys are

601
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: are excellent and would be good and would be good choices,

602
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: you know. But I also wonder my thing with them

603
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: is how realistic is the mc grown stuff? How realistic

604
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: do they feel about him? Did they really feel when

605
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Speaker 1: they drafted him in the fourth round that this is

606
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Speaker 1: a guy that we feel like will be a Day

607
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Speaker 1: two guy. We're getting a deal on him because he's

608
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: hurt and next year he's gonna be gonna be good

609
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Speaker 1: to go, because you know, I see some similarities in

610
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Speaker 1: what you think those guys might be. So and the

611
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Speaker 1: last part of it is just that I really feel

612
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Speaker 1: like edge is a huge need. I think edge is

613
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Speaker 1: just I think that might be the biggest need on

614
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: defense is somebody who can get in there and set

615
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: the edge and be you know, move around and be

616
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Speaker 1: tough and you know, get after the quarterback and play

617
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: three downs. And so as much as you I really

618
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Speaker 1: am intrigued by those middle linebackers, I also feel like

619
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Speaker 1: I think they need an edge. I think they need

620
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: a you know, not just a pass rusher, but a

621
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Speaker 1: guy who can play three downs on the edge. And

622
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure at twenty one if if there's a

623
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Speaker 1: perfect kind of guy that's going to kind of intrigued by,

624
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: let's try a smaller, faster guy in the middle that

625
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: can go either way. I'm with you, you know, because

626
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Speaker 1: you okay, so you get a good edge guy on

627
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Speaker 1: the right side, what about when they go to the

628
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: left side, So like, maybe this guy that can clean

629
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Speaker 1: up either way. I like the idea of that too, because,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, instead of trying to say, like, well, we

631
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Speaker 1: have these safeties that are hybrids and they could, why

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Speaker 1: can't we just get a linebacker who could play linebackers

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Speaker 1: supposed to with safety, you could play line That's what

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Speaker 1: I would like to see them try to do. And

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Speaker 1: I know there's no perfect there's no perfect prospects. I

636
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Speaker 1: think this guy, you know, both of the guys that

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Speaker 1: Mike talked about, Lloyd Endean can be like the laundry

638
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Speaker 1: list of guys that are playing like that in the

639
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Speaker 1: league now, Yeah, the Devin Whites of the world. Yeah, that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they're going to be

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Speaker 1: as good. Maybe they won't. Maybe they won't in this system.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Bill knows that can't work in

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Speaker 1: this system. I don't know. But if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: change the system a little bit. Yeah, to a guy

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Speaker 1: that can just make football plays. Yeah, it's hard not

646
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: to watch those kind of players and not think of

647
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Speaker 1: Buffalo and how, you know, how how will these players

648
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Speaker 1: impact those two games against Buffalo? And I mean, I

649
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: could make the starky punt comment, but you know, just

650
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Speaker 1: being able to deal with that. And that's when I

651
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: see Dean and I'm like, he can handle Josh Allen,

652
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Speaker 1: like he can watch those and know where to go,

653
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Speaker 1: and you know, I They're fun to watch, both those guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, eight five five PATS five hundred web Radio

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Speaker 1: at Patriots dot Com is the email address. Let's turn

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Speaker 1: to the phone see what people are thinking. Start with Todd,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Todd? Hey, morning, guys. You're now

658
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Speaker 1: the number one in my Nielsen ratings. Thing that I'm

659
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Speaker 1: filling out for them. I oh, nice, listen to you

660
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Speaker 1: guys more often than not. I'm not sure if Nielsen

661
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Speaker 1: record towards us. But are you really a Nielsen family todd? Yes? Wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever been either man, anyone who

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Speaker 1: knew somebody that came across somebody that. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: thought I got a lot of power. Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was kind of a lot of power. Yeah, put

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Speaker 1: us in there, Thank you? I did. Yeah. Sure, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you fill out a little journal. Are they still doing

668
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Speaker 1: it that way? Yeah? I fill at a journal and

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Speaker 1: then I have to see it. So I listened to

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Speaker 1: a week of I put down all my listening and

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Speaker 1: my wife's listening for one week. So oh it's it's radio.

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Speaker 1: Nielsen's too, like that not television radio. And they do

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Speaker 1: streams too. Now wow, wow, dude, you get compensated if

674
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of power. I gotta have to

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Speaker 1: stop making fun of you for a couple of shows.

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Speaker 1: Anyone earn any money, so they call it a gift

677
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Speaker 1: when they send it to you. Because I'm Canadian and

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Speaker 1: I don't have the work views, I'm my ead expired,

679
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Speaker 1: so I get this gift from them. Of about thirty

680
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Speaker 1: dollars a month. Wow, okay, pays for lunch, exactly, pays

681
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Speaker 1: for lunch, take the kid out for some fun. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Paul. I have never met or even heard

683
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Speaker 1: of anyone that knows. Yeah, somebody who was a Nielsen Penson.

684
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Speaker 1: It's crazy for me, neither of I and my old job.

685
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Speaker 1: We that was I mean, six am you want to

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Speaker 1: show premiered you? That was it? That was everything? What

687
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Speaker 1: what was watched? And what are the numbers? And how

688
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Speaker 1: did you keep your leading? I mean it's you're waiting

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Speaker 1: on and so Todd, you're kind of famous. Yeah. Well, also, guys,

690
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Speaker 1: they're really important. My wife used to work for Procter

691
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Speaker 1: and Gamble and they use Nielsen shopping down all the time,

692
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Speaker 1: so you can become a Nielsen shopper as well. So

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Speaker 1: you see those guys in the taking scanning and stuff

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Speaker 1: and they're not buying anything, but they're picking up all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. They get paid too. Then they're Nielsen as well. Nielsen.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how big they were until we started this,

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Speaker 1: and then my wife told me a while back. When

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Speaker 1: I worked there, we did that too, So they're huge.

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Speaker 1: No socks is a good reader of Nielsen ratings. Yes, like,

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Speaker 1: because when you get your Nielsen, like for example, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and Filtered show, there's a rating how it started

702
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Speaker 1: and then throughout the half hour, and so you know

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Speaker 1: the different demos started out yeah with a point eight

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Speaker 1: and then right that you held your lead and then

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Speaker 1: and then right gives you the I had your best

706
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Speaker 1: stuff in the second fifteen minutes because trash talk segment

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Speaker 1: did particularly let me ask let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: So what what what else tied? Well, I'm done with

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Speaker 1: w EI's off day and Andy the slimey shine that

710
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Speaker 1: they've got in there is a weird combination of Howard Stern,

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Speaker 1: Andy and Deuce and all the negative parts of Deuce. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I shot across the bottle or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know enough about Shine to

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Speaker 1: go and get your shine to tell you if that's

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Speaker 1: accurate or not. Who is he? He's the one of

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Speaker 1: the producers. I think he's the guy who took Ken's

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Speaker 1: spot in the morning. Okay, I don't know. He's Keith

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Speaker 1: producer for a while. Yeah, I thought he got promoted

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Speaker 1: if he moved or not. I thought he's the guy

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Speaker 1: with Curtis Now in the Morning with Ken Leard. He's

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Speaker 1: an executive producer or something now too as well. Is

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Speaker 1: that his last name, shine Shine Chris, Chris Chris. They

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Speaker 1: call it shime time. Yeah, okay, so he absolutely hates

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Speaker 1: everybody has a snappy little name. He's more negative than

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Speaker 1: I am at time. Does he know football at all?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but he thinks. I've heard him

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Speaker 1: a little bit on Marker was the worst thing that

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Speaker 1: we could have done. He's waiting for our quarterback to

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Speaker 1: poop himself on the field and just prove that he's

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Speaker 1: the listening. Okay, I get I get it too. And

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Speaker 1: it all came into yeah, he's negative to be negative,

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And he's figures that Bill done. You listened

733
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Speaker 1: to him his commentary. He thinks Bill can't coach, can't

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Speaker 1: draft Cantons like, oh my god. And he's with Andy.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, help me. I need to go back.

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Speaker 1: I need you guys three times a week. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to push Fred to that that's good.

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Speaker 1: That'll that'll actually make Andy more positive, you know, because

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Speaker 1: he can't maybe is such a he can't tolerate like

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Speaker 1: somebody being you know, oh, Andy's such a pander. Now

741
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Speaker 1: we're trying to get him. We're going to see if

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Speaker 1: we can. You haven't come on the first round, right yeah?

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Speaker 1: Put the offer out? Awesome? Yeah, I heard every he

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Speaker 1: panders to the audience, now unlikely. I heard him going

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Speaker 1: out with with Gloria and Marloney and he was arguing

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Speaker 1: my side of the street, and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: what Andy? It's like? And but it's fun because he's

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Speaker 1: good at it, and I love hearing somebody who's good

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Speaker 1: at it, like, like, you can be good at it

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Speaker 1: all when you choose to be Yep, which side? Which

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Speaker 1: side of the street? Was he arguing? Though? Whenever anybody

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Speaker 1: else wasn't. He went to the playoffs with a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's the worst coach of

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Speaker 1: all time? You know that? Okay? You know, like someone

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00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: suggests he's the worst coach of all time, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But that's what Andy does. He'll go to the extreme.

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Speaker 1: So now you're arguing something you weren't even saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you're defending you, you're defending them mount cooks

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Speaker 1: that you like. I don't even remember walking up. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people have been calling for his return. I

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Speaker 1: know he's some popular guy around he think yeah's it's

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Speaker 1: He's always one of those. And like Green Bay, I

763
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Speaker 1: saw green Bay, like, you know, maybe we could get

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Like he's like the gun for higher yeah

765
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Speaker 1: around the league, like you need you need an outside

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Speaker 1: receiver with some speed, go get Brandon Cooks built a

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Speaker 1: career out of it. He has h Patti's an agawam.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Patty? What's up? Guys? You okay? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can hear you about okay, all right? How about

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Speaker 1: no better? Sure me? Can you hear me? Now? Catcha right?

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Speaker 1: I gotta give Paul props. And I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: my good questions about a draft PROSPECTU Poulli. I think

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Speaker 1: you kind of hit the nail on the head with

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Speaker 1: with your selection for who you think should be in

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Hall of Fame this year. And and to me,

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Speaker 1: like I hate to be a sense that are, but

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Speaker 1: I would have a hard time boating between Benson West

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Speaker 1: on your phone. I think West has such a stigma

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Speaker 1: just because of Super Bowl forty six for dropping the

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Speaker 1: pass that you know, people forget how great he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all remember how tough Julian Edlman was.

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Speaker 1: Elman was. West was just as tough. I mean, West

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Speaker 1: took but he got killed over the middle. They got

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Speaker 1: a game to game basis. Not only that, but like

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Speaker 1: he just he racked up, racked up receptions and moved

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Speaker 1: the sticks. They weren't just like meaningless receptions. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy numbers. Like when you know, like I remember

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl we had in Atlanta, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we all worked in this one big room and we

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Speaker 1: got into the conversation of welco vers settlement and we

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Speaker 1: started taking out the numbers. And yes, Edelman is outrageous

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but Welker's numbers dwarf dwarf overall overall overall,

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Speaker 1: ye yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. And and Edelman's gonna

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Speaker 1: get into Patris Hall of Fame absolutely. But they had

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Speaker 1: just won Super Bowl forty six. West would probably be

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Speaker 1: right there on the Mount Rushman probably would have in

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Speaker 1: the MVP of forty two. Right, yeah. So, and I

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Speaker 1: know you brought up ed guys. Have you had a

799
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Speaker 1: chance to look at Cameron Thomas from San Diego State?

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Speaker 1: And that's all I got said all right, thanks Patty. No,

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Speaker 1: I haven't actually, but I will been doing write it down.

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Speaker 1: Here's one of six hundred guys. I I was just

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Speaker 1: looking at, you know, like because Patty talked about that

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Speaker 1: toughness thing. Welker even had a better year the year

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Speaker 1: coming off the ACL than Edelman did. Like when Fred

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Speaker 1: said the numbers twelve from you know, they were comparable.

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Speaker 1: I mean both of these guys to me, no brainer,

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Speaker 1: Locke Hall of Patriots, Hall of Fame, bang Like, no

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Speaker 1: questions asked. I have banan appeal. But Welker had eighty

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Speaker 1: six for eight forty eight and seven touchdowns the year

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Speaker 1: after you know, his towny ACL, and he missed time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he missed with a different injury. He missed games that year.

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Speaker 1: And Edelman coming off to torny ACL, was seventy four

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Speaker 1: for eight fifty and six touchdowns. So even like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the toughness thing that Edelman gets probably would get ten

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Speaker 1: out of ten people to say, oh Edelman's tougher. Even

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Speaker 1: that was debatable. Yeah, what would I I wish I

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Speaker 1: could see them standing next to each other because I

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Speaker 1: just the comp between size between I think Welker is

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Speaker 1: a little bigger. Um and taller or thicker, thicker. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I would say, what did I say? I thought,

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Speaker 1: that's that's my my uh Dislike I always thought Edelman

823
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Speaker 1: was bigger, a little bit more explosive. Yeah, but Welker

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Speaker 1: was more reliable. And I think even like I think

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Speaker 1: that the to break a tackle and and make yards,

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Speaker 1: I think Edelman. But to make a guy miss and

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Speaker 1: make yards was Welker. Yeah, Like it was weird how

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Speaker 1: that that first guy never got Welker to the ground. Ever,

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Speaker 1: I always felt like Edelman was the more talented athlete, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with, and Welker was the more talented receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would. I would agree with that. Somebody somebody on

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Speaker 1: the Twitter throughout some old Kent State highlight reel of

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Speaker 1: Edelman yesterday. Oh yeah he was. He's a great athlete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete than Welcome. I think,

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Speaker 1: like the way Eric just put it, I would agree with. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's a great Kent State video on YouTube of Edelman

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Speaker 1: that they made his senior year and it's like got

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Speaker 1: the rudy music and it's kind of a retrospective and

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Speaker 1: it's but it's jewels. It's the most unintentional comedic thing

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848
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865
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Speaker 1: And I think and I think that they're attracted to those,

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890
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Speaker 1: Fred and Wales whiles Um silly? Which is more likely? Game?

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Speaker 1: There's six of them, so we gotta keep track here,

895
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Speaker 1: which is more likely. One Mac finishes the season as

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Speaker 1: I don't think Barmore has that kind of profile that

899
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904
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Speaker 1: Mike didn't answer that. Yeah take the fifth on that one. Uh.

905
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Speaker 1: Folk doesn't miss a field goal under fifty all season,

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Speaker 1: or Mac doesn't throw a pick six. I'd say that

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Speaker 1: more likely Folk. Yeah, Folk, Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: That's close though, Yeah, pick six. I don't think you

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921
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931
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Speaker 1: now great Moments in History. I just want to help out.

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Speaker 1: Dave here, he's from Lancaster, California, says years ago in

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Speaker 1: I need your help. I can't remember what brand you

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Speaker 1: But if you if you want just America, if you

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Speaker 1: I want to go with one of the bigger, you know,

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Speaker 1: brands that you can do bigger loads. Not a fan

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Speaker 1: of Maytag. Maytag is good, durable, yeah, but I like

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Speaker 1: Speed Queen. The problem with all appliances nowadays is they're

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Speaker 1: not built to last. But that's why you go with

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Speaker 1: Speed Queen. What's the different Speed Queens are the ones

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Speaker 1: to give you a five to ten years, not to

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Speaker 1: Speed Queen. Okay, all the guys that sell all of

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Speaker 1: these different things. A wrong friends rights right quick, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I if you're looking for just a basic

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Speaker 1: Speed Queen washer dryer, American made steel drum, no plastic,

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Speaker 1: sharp edges. I just I just wanted to help out

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Speaker 1: day there. I'm sure. I'm sure he feels right. You

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Speaker 1: the middle of the store and I forgot what Fred's

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Speaker 1: You know, when people are like, what the hell is

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Speaker 1: I I wasn't here, I guess at that time. But

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Speaker 1: I wish I had known this before I had bought

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Speaker 1: our most recent washer dryer. What you get, well, I

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Speaker 1: think a may Tag or something. But I'm I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm appealed. It's appealing to have just I just needed

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Speaker 1: to wash. I don't need all that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I wash. I don't have like permanent press or fabric

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Speaker 1: soft like you need a delicate setting, you know, for

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Speaker 1: your delicates. But other than that, what are I don't

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Speaker 1: What are delicates? I don't. I don't have them. Guys

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Speaker 1: like a dress shirt, Like if you have a dress shirt,

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Speaker 1: you want to throw it in the wash that you

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Speaker 1: want to put that in the delicate I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: do what you sell delicate setting and then you then

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Speaker 1: you iron it. No, I have not iron shirts, not

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Speaker 1: iron shirts. It's the Charles whatever it is, the whatever

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Speaker 1: it is not what he said. But yes close. They're

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Speaker 1: them in. Uh and when you take them out of

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Speaker 1: the suitcase, I mean they wrinkle a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: once you put them on the hangar, they kind of

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Speaker 1: like settle into their shape and they're great washing. You

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Speaker 1: like in college, you just like you'd pull them out

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Speaker 1: like two days. You dry, and then they be completely

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Speaker 1: You just throw them on like they eventually they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: get where they need to be. Um, okay, little homes Hey,

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Speaker 1: we all do that, right, uh, Paul and Drake writes

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Speaker 1: in at web radio at Patriots dot com. Allow me

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Speaker 1: to share my only concern about the Parker trade and

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it. When I think of Parker,

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Speaker 1: I think of that play in Miami in the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen question Mark season where Parker got away from Gilmore

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Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. Personally, I thought that was Gilmore

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Speaker 1: giving up on the play. But I wonder if that

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Speaker 1: was one of those Bill moments where he saw that

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Speaker 1: and went he beat Steph, so he's got to be good.

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Speaker 1: Think that might have played into the decision, as it

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Speaker 1: has with some other players. It seemed to only school us.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping there were other considerations, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: Bill loves those types. Also, Paul, I think you might

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Speaker 1: the Wettle which a caller and suggested, Wettle is the

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Speaker 1: football player. That's all right. I mean I've gotten twice.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll stick with it. But um,

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Speaker 1: l A. Those those world guys must be I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the New York Times paid him. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I to the Parker point, I don't know. I do

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Speaker 1: think Bill does that. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if every game he's had good games against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: he has, And I think Bill does tend to have

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Speaker 1: his eyes opened by by good games against the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Welker was a classic example. Yeah h a game where

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Speaker 1: he ended up kicking fuel goals to an extra points.

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Speaker 1: Imagine Bill after the game lay after a sudden time

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Speaker 1: Yeah kick the field goal? Get him? Uh spin fresno. Um.

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Speaker 1: He says about the fan voting for the h O F.

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Speaker 1: Fan voting is fine but also ridiculous. In that we

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Speaker 1: can vote repeatedly. If that can't be fixed, I'll just

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Speaker 1: plan on sixty clicks for Welker. Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we do that stuff the ballot

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Speaker 1: buck we allow people to vote more than once. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. Well? Can you do it? Like on

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Speaker 1: your send? You spoke up because I was just about

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Speaker 1: to make myself look really like much stupider than normal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, you can't do that. You can,

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Speaker 1: you could probably vote, but it only counts think you can. Really,

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Speaker 1: I thought there was something in place to prevent it.

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Speaker 1: On the same device you can vote. Yeah, time, I

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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. Also, the pronunciation of our varies by dialects.

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Speaker 1: Some dialects draw out the dipthong in our that's two

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Speaker 1: vowels ou, making it sound like two syllables. Similar variations

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Speaker 1: happen with other words, such as coin pair. Sure languages

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Speaker 1: aren't locked in stone, as they say, a language is

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Speaker 1: just a dialect with an army and a navy hashtag. Hardo.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that settles it, but thank you for trying.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate the effort, but agree with Mike because

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Speaker 1: I don't know, anybody that pronounces coin is a two

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Speaker 1: syllable like quoian quan clean. Some people say shua, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's not really a two you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like Paul we knew. We had a colleague who used

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Speaker 1: to say clearly, he made clearly like four syllable word,

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Speaker 1: nine syllable words, um, dan and here we should have

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Speaker 1: a show like um, you know word uh. Things that

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Speaker 1: bug you, m brammer, things that bug you like you know, irregardless,

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Speaker 1: things like that, you know, things like that, can I

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Speaker 1: can I give you one that I don't hear a

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Speaker 1: lot um people talk about do you ever hear anybody

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Speaker 1: like they'll say, like there have been a couple of

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Speaker 1: different incidences. It's it's either an instance or an incident, right,

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Speaker 1: they're not incidences, right, yeah, right, Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear people. I don't hear that one a

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: lot though. No, that must be a PbD thing. But

1253
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: maybe yeah ATM machine we're done. Ye. There's a lot

1254
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: of those acronyms that you use, you know, yah, h

1255
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: H P power Is it RBI or RBIs? I think

1256
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: it's RBIs. But if you're going strictly grammar, it would

1257
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: be rb RBI. It's runs batted in, right. But I

1258
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: think if you use the right acronyms. Another one I

1259
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: hear often misused attorney generals, Oh right, right, attorneys general,

1260
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah right, passers by passers pass mothers in law. Yeah,

1261
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: they're not mother in laws. Unchartered, that's a big one.

1262
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Wow, you guys are blowing my mind. You're

1263
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: pulling these out left and right now. Listen, we've had

1264
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot of off season shows, not our first. Fred

1265
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: and I have been doing nonsense for more than two decades, right, yeah,

1266
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: so we should have a show people can call in

1267
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: with their pet p with grit, with grammar, yeah, basically

1268
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: literally the people well how people use little like the

1269
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: young kids use literally a lot now and they don't

1270
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: know what it means. Literally they use it all the time, right,

1271
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: basically it's literally totally totally Well. I think that like

1272
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: there's a difference between poor grammar, like people use an

1273
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: irony wrong right, as opposed to like the mispronouncing words. Yeah,

1274
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: we got that's not a word. Yeah, it's not a word.

1275
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: It's funny like being on the show. People have called it,

1276
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, have said things in the past, like the

1277
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: Stick with You where like you know, you say you

1278
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: know a lot or and it gets in your head

1279
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: and you think about it and try not to and um,

1280
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: I was listening to my wife on an A zoom

1281
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: call or an interview and you know, it's taking it

1282
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: in and and and she's like, so, how did I do?

1283
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like you can, I can? I I'm like

1284
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: can I And like sometimes people say things to me

1285
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: on the show that I you know, say you know,

1286
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: but I do. I'm gonna do because it's a lot,

1287
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: it's right, she did? Yeah, right, that's right, right, all right?

1288
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: Or what about this is a recent one, like maybe

1289
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: the last four years? Yeah, no, oh, I have that. Yeah.

1290
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Going back to the Welker discussion, he was famous for that.

1291
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: You got me on that one. I think I said yeah, no, yeah,

1292
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: which is yeah, Welcer used to run the game, and

1293
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: it was yeah, no, I don't know, right, give me all.

1294
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: He would start off almost every answer with that. You'd

1295
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: be like, which I see that one though, is yes,

1296
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: I understand the question, and the answer is no, yeah, no, yeah,

1297
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't have It is a crutch. It's definitely a crutch.

1298
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a huge problem with it, but it's

1299
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: definitely I have another one. Those who begin sentences with

1300
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: so so so has a specific meaning, right, not for

1301
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: the beginning of every sentence, right, I agree, Fred, What

1302
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: are we going to do in the first round of

1303
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: the draft? Which is not show going to be like

1304
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: and then you would answer so, so you're gonna have

1305
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: it like in how do we need that? Incorrect? Right?

1306
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: And that's uh, that's that's tech talk. Yep, that's I'm

1307
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: over your head. So I'm gonna try to boil it down.

1308
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna Dane, I thought you were. I thought

1309
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: you were getting into corporate speak. That's like the pivot, efforting, efforting.

1310
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna effort that. You could do a lot of

1311
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: corporate speak too, but I won't. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm

1312
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: gonna pivot. That the reason they departed others in the building.

1313
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah that what what what bucket does that fall in? Oh? Silos,

1314
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: they're just silos we're talking about today. Or then you know,

1315
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: like if you're talking about like an idea in business

1316
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: and you really want to be folksy, well that dog

1317
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: won't hunt. Okay, put your cowboy hat on that dogs

1318
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: ain't gonna hunt. Let's uh, let's go. Let's let's table that.

1319
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: We'll get back to that one table, circle back'll circle

1320
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: back in a smaller, smaller group for that one off.

1321
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: We'll go offline with that. Um, are you gonna share

1322
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: the deck after the meeting with the deck? You're gonna

1323
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: get decked if you use that language again. Anyway. Back

1324
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: to your emails and phone calls Dan and Manchester for Rubs,

1325
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: he says, I love the idea of getting old teammates

1326
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: back together Mack and MITCHI would be a lot of

1327
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: fun and hopefully he can be what early two Thousandon

1328
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: Branch was to Brady. But I was very excited about

1329
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: about the big head possibly coming back for a show.

1330
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: Someone needs to put Paul in his place every now

1331
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: and then like he used to, and much rather Andy

1332
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: silly arguments than Paul constantly condescending callers and emailers. I

1333
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: love Paul, but holy hell, dude, calm down. I constantly

1334
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: just turn off the show when Paul gets annoyed, because

1335
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: annoyed Paul is incredibly annoying. Replace Eric with Andy and

1336
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: this show would be perfect. Eric gets some shrapnel. Tuesday

1337
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: was an example Parker versus Adams games played. Davante Adams

1338
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: has never played less than uh than double digit games. Ever,

1339
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: lists off the games for both players and neither has

1340
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: played less than double digits. True, So at this point,

1341
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: Paul pulls a friend and switches to games started a

1342
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: little bit. That's a little bit true. I had to

1343
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: take my medicine and we talked about it that day.

1344
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: You have to take my medicine anyway. Stevenson's teammate, fullback

1345
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Hall, is a fun undrafted free agent option. Yeah,

1346
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: for a team that's not going to have a full

1347
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: back right out. That's what That's what they told. I mean,

1348
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to like disappoint people, but

1349
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: if you don't want me to get your noise, don't

1350
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: annoy me. No. But the Parker thing, Yeah, that we

1351
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: talked about that, dude, if you look at it, I

1352
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: still think it's not close. Unlike the way that that

1353
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:51,959
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote in but the duel, the DeVante

1354
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: Parker also didn't miss double more than double digits. You know,

1355
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: you always always played double digit games too, It's always

1356
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: like eleven. But whatever, let's get to the Ace ticket

1357
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: up line Aaron's in Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron? Hey, guys,

1358
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: how's it going? Um? Deer and deers. I don't like

1359
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: when people deers. Yeah, yeah, get get some beers and

1360
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: drink them. Yeah. Last time I calling in, I annoyed Paul.

1361
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: He beat me up. So I think I'm just gonna

1362
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: play a game. But Dave, no, I apologize because I

1363
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: was just about to compliment you on. That's a good

1364
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: example of the pronunciation game. Yes, a lot, because I

1365
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: do know a lot of people that call them beers beers.

1366
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: It's get some beer, Yeah, you got some said deer,

1367
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: deer sainteers, deer beer. Reindeersy dear. We won't let root

1368
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: up playing any reindeer games, right, So what do you got, Aaron?

1369
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: I love games, all right? So this is this is

1370
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: this guy, like, what what would you rather see? Jay

1371
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: Low all right, son of Tom Brady's. I think we've

1372
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of running back. So this how

1373
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: I came up with this game with the whole running

1374
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: back thing, running Bactus is Brady running it back in

1375
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight a stead of getting hurt after

1376
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventh season, Oh absolutely, or seeing

1377
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: what Josh McDaniels would have done in twenty thirteen with

1378
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 1: the Gron and Hernandezz combination, because ten eleven, twelve he

1379
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Then thirteen he come back, and I think

1380
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: the Brady one thirteen. Yeah, I don't think there was

1381
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: much difference there with thirteen. But the eight team was

1382
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: absolutely loaded. Ye loaded. I think that team could have

1383
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: made a run um to win at all. Could we

1384
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: compare the seven defense of the O eight defense, because

1385
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: it seemed like guys are old and oh seven, they're

1386
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: getting older in a way. They had trouble stopping teams

1387
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: they didn't matter. Yeah, it would have just I mean

1388
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: they were just like matter. They were eleven and five

1389
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: with Matt Castle, right, you know what were the changes?

1390
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: So Asante left Junior say out like retired, right he was?

1391
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: He came back at the end. I want to say,

1392
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: Delta Neil, Delta O'Neil, they have him. Yeah, yeah, that

1393
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: was oh eight, I think oh eight was Delta O'Neill.

1394
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: But I can look it up. That's look that up.

1395
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: It's easy to just look at Moss, Welker and and

1396
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 1: and Gaffney, as as the trio. Oh, the team was loaded.

1397
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: There was like Fred said, they won eleven games with

1398
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: a guy who never played right right. That was a

1399
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: big deal on why we missed the playoffs because it

1400
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: was five conference games and these are games you know,

1401
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: within the division and stuff, you know cooked them up

1402
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I know, yep. Let me see that

1403
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: when you're done, Scale, I want to look at it

1404
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: all right, Thanks Aaron, good game, good game. Let's go

1405
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: to Brad in the Eastern Shore. What's up Brad? How

1406
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: you doing? Hey, good afternoon, guys, good Glad. All is

1407
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: well up in the north Land. Um, just a real

1408
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: subtle behind the scenes Fred, I'm not sure you caught it,

1409
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: but deuston, Eric, that was awesome with the for every

1410
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: long program you have a short program that was Paul, Yeah,

1411
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Um. Secondly, m Raymond Claiborne may have gotten

1412
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: into the Patriots Hall of Fame because certain at that

1413
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: point fifty three year old men may have voted well

1414
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: over two hundred times. UM, so that is a thing quarterback. Wow.

1415
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: But I just felt when he made the final, you know,

1416
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: of my era and Paul and Fred Zia other than

1417
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: Mike Canes, I thought Raymond Claiborne could not be touched. Yeah,

1418
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. You know, ty laws passed him,

1419
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, I would agree with you on that when

1420
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: those two, when those two combined, I mean talk about

1421
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: two shutdown corners. If we had had a quarterback that

1422
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: actually to throw the ball in the seventies, I think

1423
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: that would have been a title contending defense. Brad's my

1424
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: kind of Patriots fan. Yeah, I mean, I don't fall

1425
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: into I've talked to people who were there then and

1426
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: were there when you know, Parcels came in and uh, Carol,

1427
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: and they said that those that seventy six and seventy

1428
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: eight teams were so talented, so talented, you know, and

1429
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: obviously we know about the Fantom, the roughing passer with

1430
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: Ray Hamilton, and that year they would have probably won

1431
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That's that's one of those games that

1432
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: they I mean, if they win that game, now you know,

1433
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: now you're one game away from the Super Bowl. I mean,

1434
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: you could certainly make an argument that the Raiders were

1435
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: the best team, right. You know, with the Patriot, you

1436
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: beat him in the regular season, you beat him in

1437
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: the regular season, you beat him in the playoffs. Who's

1438
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: better than you right. That was seventy seven absolutely who

1439
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl night year the Raiders draft game

1440
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: for you guys, so you have you have you have

1441
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: to make a choice. If you take a cornerback in

1442
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: the first round, you have to take a wide receiver

1443
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: not until the fourth round, okay, or linebacker in the

1444
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: first round cornerback in the fourth round. Which would you

1445
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: rather do? I think I'm finding either way. I just

1446
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: the individual not knowing the individual players cloud that for me.

1447
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: But I'm okay with waiting for the fourth round to

1448
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: get a receiver. Um, if they take a really good cornerback,

1449
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: but is Dean better than the cornerback, then I want

1450
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: the linebacker, right Yeah, I think that's that's where you're comparing.

1451
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know from Florida that that he's a

1452
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: real popular corner long fits the profile. I think corners

1453
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: a need more than off the ball linebacker. I would

1454
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: pick the corner them and the wide I agree. I

1455
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: agree with dude. I think they have positioned themselves. They

1456
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: are hoping that there is a run on wide receivers

1457
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: from like thirteen to nineteen in that range, and that

1458
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: allows you know McDuffie, Elam or you know, even I

1459
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: like I like the Michigan safety. I think he's tax

1460
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: Hill going to be as good at cornerback as he

1461
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: will a safety. Um. But I just see them kind

1462
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: of almost painting themselves into the little corner, which is

1463
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: what I hate, because as soon as we all say

1464
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a quarterback, Bill's gonna take a tight

1465
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: end and just absolutely plumb access. Wow, that would be

1466
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: one of the rare pos start that I would say,

1467
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: that's bad, that's bally bad because I just watched some

1468
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: of the tight ends. There's a lot of solid third

1469
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: and fourth round picks there. To Eric's huge harump, he

1470
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 1: will trade down to the Yeah, I've kind of accepted

1471
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: that that's a distinct possibility. So I don't know if

1472
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: I'll harump as much this year. But I still want

1473
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: them to make the pick. I believe me. With the

1474
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: English lesson we just had for the last fifteen minutes,

1475
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: you as a group really need to find a high

1476
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: school and convince the high school let you go and

1477
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: teach night great English for one day. Yeah all right,

1478
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: well thanks, thanks. I took that. That was quite a

1479
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: shot right there, right, Like what I'm not capable of

1480
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: teaching an English class. No, I think he wants I

1481
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: think he's making fun of us, like we need to

1482
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: convince someone to allow us to teach an English class

1483
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: for one day. I didn't take that. I didn't take

1484
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: it like celebrity morons teaching. Go in there and tell

1485
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: him to stop saying literally, yeah, okay, yeah bad. I

1486
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: think all right, yeah, And you guys all took it

1487
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: as a positive. I'm going to take it as a positive.

1488
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: What was Andy going to teach when he was in

1489
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: high school? English? I think it was English? Was it English? Oh? Man?

1490
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't ironically, but that sounds funny. Those kids dodged

1491
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: a bullet hunt and he didn't worked out at a

1492
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: high school student that that's funny. That's yea. I will

1493
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: leave right now. Then he took his shirt off and

1494
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 1: started flexing. I don't know what. Yes, rivers have ties

1495
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: you more, hugest head. I do want to because I

1496
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: have thought about being a teacher a lot, and I

1497
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: there was a time that I was heading that way

1498
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: and U I don't know the same thing. I don't

1499
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: know if I have the temperament to be like when

1500
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: I coached the kids, especially when I coached in high school,

1501
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: Like can you imagine my snark with high school kids? Um,

1502
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: but you can say things on a baseball field or

1503
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: a football field that you can't say in a classroom, right, Yeah,

1504
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: Like I think I would be one of those, like

1505
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: you know the old ESPN commercials with a young kid

1506
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: is hosting Sports Center and then he says like Jimmy

1507
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: Key sucks and all of a sudden is like they

1508
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: put the color bros. Like he came out too early.

1509
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: He was just he just wasn't ready. That'd be me

1510
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: after like the first week. I wouldn't make it Like

1511
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, mister Poolo's class would be taught by Mike

1512
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: do So today it's for the rest of the year.

1513
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Lane has worked in schools her whole career

1514
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: and just the they're all the same, the politics, the

1515
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff that go on with teachers and administrations,

1516
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: and each new school it's the it's like the same show.

1517
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: It's just someone new playing the same part. It's uh,

1518
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: it's yeah, frustrating. I also feel like that the kids

1519
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: nowadays like aren't respectful to the teacher anymore. Like there

1520
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: was like we used to be like scared to death

1521
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: to like even mouth off or do anything. Even the

1522
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: teachers that we hated got all of our respect. Like

1523
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: if they said to do something, I did it. Now

1524
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: I feel like they just like they'll like flip you

1525
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: off in class and like you can't do anything about

1526
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: it because they know, Yeah, they know you end up

1527
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: losing your job. Yeah, especially private schools where they the

1528
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: parents are you know, feel like we're paying this money

1529
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: and we should have some say in it. And it's hard. Yeah,

1530
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: back to the phones, Brian's in Indiana, to the Brian

1531
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 1: I could just see past week. He taught Brian top Absolutely,

1532
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: I would beat them down worse than you beat down. Dude.

1533
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about that, Like nah, I mean dudes,

1534
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: because just a back and forth. It wasn't like now

1535
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: what I heard. I was scarred emotional. Yeah, he had

1536
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: him in the corner. He's actually underneath the console right now, Brian, No,

1537
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: he ain't. Yeah. That was the day of the first

1538
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: first round of the NCAA tournament and I was about

1539
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: eleven middle of lights deep and Mike is calling me.

1540
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know just what yelling at me.

1541
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: It was like listen, Mike, you know I've had it.

1542
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: I've had some beers. I don't have time for this.

1543
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: That first day when you take off a tournament. It's

1544
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: so funny how they talk about you. That's right, and

1545
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: it's not like Morale Jason my name out of her mouth.

1546
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I know. I got a couple of things. One of

1547
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: them I want to touch on was the Hall of

1548
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: Fame voting. And I agree with y'all about the Welker.

1549
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: I always get like it's funny because we're Bray hand bill.

1550
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 1: I can kick one and do it the or. But

1551
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: with Welker and Everman, I never felt the need to

1552
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 1: do that. I've always felt like they were both great

1553
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: players for the team and personally me I understand. I

1554
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: remember the day after that Super Bowl lost, everybody nationally

1555
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: was he got two hands. I've always felt like that

1556
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: was a horrible pass. That was one of Tom Brady's weaknesses.

1557
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: If you asked me, it was his range and throwing deep.

1558
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: He always had the arm to do it, but he

1559
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: was never very accurate deep and even some of his

1560
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: best throws or best plays if you think about the history,

1561
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: see like I'm a Brady bow bow. But at the

1562
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: same time, I could criticize the guy. He got this

1563
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: bad habit of me to me of throwing to five

1564
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: foot nine guys like they were six foot four, and

1565
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: then he would throw the ground egg his shoe strings

1566
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: and I never I didn't know if it was on

1567
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: purpose is I never understood why he did that, but

1568
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: I always thought that was a horrible pass. Back of

1569
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: pass we probably win that Super Bowl. Um, it was

1570
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 1: one more thing. Oh, the grammar. I'm not a grammar nazi,

1571
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: but it's a thing with sports, especially. Everybody says resiliency

1572
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: like it's a four syllable word. The word is resilience,

1573
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: three syllables. Man, everybody, I mean, some of the most

1574
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: well read people. I've heard Eric Dower, I heard Mike

1575
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: Reaess do it. I'm like man, and and like I said,

1576
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a grammar nazi. That kind of stuff usually

1577
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: don't bother me. But everybody tool man says resilience. That's

1578
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: a good one. But I always thought that two different.

1579
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Believe that two words. Okay, well that resilience and resilience

1580
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: is definitely definitely, But what's the different between resilience and resiliency.

1581
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there is one. I think he's resilient

1582
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the point. It's one of the other

1583
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Resilience is the the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties, toughness. Yeah. Um,

1584
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 1: let's see if efforting addiction noun and resiliency and adjective

1585
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: version of that. Because I looked at us, I think

1586
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: he might be right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, the noun

1587
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: is resiliency. The noun is resiliency. Yeah. Oh yeah, uh nothing, Yeah,

1588
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: they're they're they're like, there is such a word resiliency. Yeah. Well,

1589
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: it says under resilience, noun resiliency, but it has the

1590
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:41,440
Speaker 1: it has the definition listed there. But to me, resilience,

1591
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: that sounds like a noun to me too. Uh and

1592
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: and and Brian is right because it says um, resilience

1593
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: and resiliency are different forms of the same word. The

1594
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: nouns refer to the ability to recover quickly from illness

1595
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: or misfortune. But in today's English, resilience is far more

1596
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: common than resiliency. Yeah, especially outside the US and Canada.

1597
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: And you've heard me say resiliency, Brian, because many times

1598
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: I tend to like I would always say he should

1599
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: he showed resilience, I've heard, right, I mean in sports.

1600
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: That's a comment, and yeah, I think you're right, Brian

1601
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Paul is saying what you're saying. Uh. Yeah, I would

1602
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: have to think back and say, Okay, well they talking

1603
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: about recovering from injuries or what they talking about, like

1604
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: a team fighting through uh you know, like downtimes, say

1605
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: just not playing. Well, maybe maybe they were using resiliency

1606
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: for one and resilience, but I never even heard anybody

1607
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: used resilience. It's always resiliency. Yeah. All I know now

1608
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: is I'm completely confused, and I'm going to avoid that word.

1609
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: I think Brian's right. I've always thought of them as

1610
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: two different words, but they're really the same word. And

1611
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: there's no need to add a syllable to him where

1612
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: you educated me, Paul, because I didn't know it was

1613
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 1: good thought it was one. I didn't had no ideas

1614
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: to different words. Well, I think, but I think you're right.

1615
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: It says that the more common is just resilience. Yeah,

1616
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I usually like to use resilience.

1617
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: But I think Brian's point is accurate that on TV

1618
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: you hear them say resiliency, yeah more frequently. Yeah, yep,

1619
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: all right, Hey Brian, thank you. It's a good call.

1620
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 1: All right, mommar talk, Yeah, what are your thoughts on?

1621
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Ain't a word. I don't like it. I mean, it's

1622
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: it's fine. I don't like. Oh that shows somebody's uneducated

1623
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 1: when they use it. But it's not a word. I

1624
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: mean in print. Oh, it shouldn't be used the print.

1625
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: The only time you should use it in print is

1626
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: in a quote. And yeah, I would like working here.

1627
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I work for the team. I almost always change it

1628
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: to make the guy who the player silence. Yeah, you

1629
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: know smarter, right I do. I mean unless it's really

1630
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: for a fact, like you know, I ain't knowing that. Yeah,

1631
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: hit him where they ain't. That dog ain't gonna hunt, right,

1632
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, hit him where they ain't. It's the old

1633
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: baseball cliche, like you wouldn't say, hit him where they

1634
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: they're where they aren't or they're not. I go to

1635
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: scout with a lot of that stuff because I know

1636
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: he knows grammar better than I do, especially with like quotes,

1637
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: because you know, like with Barmore, you get you know

1638
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, like hed

1639
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: some people will transfer every phrase that every player. I

1640
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: always wanting to make sure it's okay that I don't. Yeah,

1641
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: you can. The only time you'd ever have to worry

1642
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: in quote, especially sports, we're not talking about real life,

1643
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: like we're not the future or the free world is

1644
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: not at stake with our with our right thing. But

1645
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: if if it's something controversial out of the locker room

1646
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: and it happens, I'm gonna quote the guy verbatim. I'm

1647
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: not going to give him any opportunities to say I

1648
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: didn't say that, right, that's that's a good but you know,

1649
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: not the thumb you know you you know so so Christian,

1650
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: how did you feel about you know, the game? You know,

1651
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: I thought we got in a groove. You know what

1652
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I could take that, you know what

1653
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm not. I'm not changing what he meant.

1654
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm not changing what his thought process was and not

1655
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: adding or subtracting anything. Correct, right, Neil and new Brunswick.

1656
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: I've been keeping an eye on the endless number of

1657
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: mock drafts and some very common names you see predicted

1658
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: to the Patriots are Nakobe Dean, Devin Lloyd, Trent McDuffie,

1659
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: and Andrew Booth. Do we know anything about these players

1660
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: and if we'd be happy if one of them is

1661
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: picked by the Patriots in three weeks. I think we'd

1662
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: like any of them. I like all of them. I

1663
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: like all of them. I'd take either one of those linebackers.

1664
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: I would be happy with Booth. Yeah, yeah, I think

1665
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: you know Booth, he's aggressive. I think he's more of

1666
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: a zone corner. He's not. I mean, look at elam

1667
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 1: elam fits the part of what Jacy Jackson. You know

1668
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 1: man Long can play. Uh, you know, has the size

1669
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: to match up. I think, you know, And I really

1670
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: like McDuffie too, But I think McDuffie and Booth are

1671
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 1: both a little bit more of a projection. They're not

1672
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: pure man coverage. You know, you needing to get a

1673
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: man corner. I think that late you're you're you're lucky

1674
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: to get elam Um. The guys above him with like Stingley,

1675
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, those are those are prototypical guys. So I

1676
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: do think there are some questions like like and Paul

1677
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of inferred with with bootha McDuffie. But I think

1678
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: they're both aggressive and um and make plays on the

1679
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: ball and so. But but I think all those guys

1680
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: fit and and and could potentially help. The other one

1681
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: that is common is Mike's guy, Jamison Williams. Mike hate

1682
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm painted into the corner. Can I just tell you

1683
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: that I am rooting for nothing in this draft other

1684
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: than Jamison Williams because the Hall of Fame. I'm on

1685
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: mount Wait. I guess I'm in like Mountain Ditch. I'm

1686
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: in Ditch Williams. I'm not defending him. I'm looking up

1687
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: and out. Also, this offseason has been exciting, but not

1688
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,839
Speaker 1: for us. Feel free to transition into interesting offseason topics

1689
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: like impressions, movies, candy bars and sitcoms, or how Fred

1690
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: has a feel for the WORDLD league. Okay, those things

1691
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: happen organically. There are an impression off this year and

1692
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: the food off. We don't have a challenge that that's Wroe.

1693
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, the impossible Burger challenge. Remember we

1694
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: brought that up during the season. Oh yeah, we're gonna

1695
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: try to see if we could see. Yeah, I would

1696
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: take part um. I just want to correct something. When

1697
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I said that I'd be happy with any of them

1698
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: other than Booth, I was thinking of Booth was a

1699
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 1: different player, and I don't know who I was confusing

1700
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: him with, but I was thinking of Booth as a

1701
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: guard and not the corner, So I just like, I

1702
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to correct that. I looked. That's why I

1703
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: looked at you, and because I thought it would be obvious,

1704
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: because I don't want an offensive lineman. But yeah, I

1705
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: was confusing him with someone else. So I don't know

1706
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: a ton about Booth obviously, because I confused him with

1707
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 1: a guard. You're gonna love him. I'm gonna love I'm

1708
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna love what I see one of the thirty visits.

1709
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: But I think Penny was the guy. I might have

1710
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: been thinking of the big tackles, but he's gonna yeah

1711
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: from very very nasty nor what Dakota state? Maybe no

1712
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: where was Spencer with Brown from the Bills, Northern Illinois,

1713
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, Northern Iowa, Northern Iowa. Yeah, there's a couple.

1714
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: There's a couples from northern Iowa this year. But yeah,

1715
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: he's a bit you don't like him. He's a big, big,

1716
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: big Penning, Northern Iowa. I guess, yeah, I think for something,

1717
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 1: and that's the guy. Isn't he here? Well coming Penning?

1718
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: I thought they had him scheduled for a visit. Yeah,

1719
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: and that's why I was thinking of that guy for

1720
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: some reason. And I don't know why. It was a

1721
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,600
Speaker 1: lot of names, but he was. I just wanted to

1722
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: correct myself there. One of those, one of those. He

1723
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl, given everybody extra business throwing

1724
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: guys to the ground. Yeah, I'll take a tackle at

1725
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: twenty one. I don't want to go. I don't want

1726
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: to like a strict guard. If the guy is a tackle, Yeah,

1727
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: and he can, you know, work his way in behind

1728
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Brown and win for a year and then be the

1729
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 1: starter next times when one or both of those guys

1730
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: are no longer here. I think, Penny, I'm fine, what

1731
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: could be there? I see him all over the place.

1732
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Raymond Zion be an inside guy, but yeah, I mean

1733
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the Bernie Raymond that he could play tackle, he could

1734
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: in the pinch. I think he's probably more of a

1735
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: an interior guy though. Zion. Yeah, that's what they said.

1736
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Sam writes in from Toronto. With the two thoy nineteen

1737
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: draft receiver class getting so much attention lately, my question

1738
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: for the esteem panel is if he could go back

1739
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: and change the pick from Nikkiel to another who would

1740
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: it be. I know Mike will probably say Hunter Renfro,

1741
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: were curious for the others, I'll list the standouts here

1742
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: for before you listen, I'll say Terry McLaurin. I think

1743
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: he's in that draft, right, Yeah, Deebo, Samuel, A. J. Brown,

1744
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Dante Johnson or Hunter Renfro. And

1745
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: we know Fred's pick, right, Deebo Samuel Yeah, I would

1746
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: take Debo too, but I think of him as being

1747
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: like kind of different. I loved AJ Brown. I think

1748
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: he was mine. No problem with that one. Yeah, he

1749
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: was a pattern developing here receivers who can play Harry

1750
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: uh Stephen writes in in South Carolina. He has a

1751
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Grammar pet peeve. The word volunteerism baffles me. I heard

1752
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: a coworkers say I'm really into volunteerism. Wouldn't it just

1753
01:34:54,880 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: be I'm really into volunteering? We better ask that's true?

1754
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: You know what? I think it is? Corporate speak? Yeah,

1755
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: I do. I think he's right. I think he's right.

1756
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: There's there's a there's a phrase that I've always sort

1757
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: of wondered about. You know, you know, I'm sure Eric

1758
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 1: can get me the definitive word on this. Do you

1759
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: know when you say he's a friend of mine? Oh, yeah,

1760
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I know where you're going here. Yeah, if you say

1761
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: he's a friend of Eric, yes, isn't that proper? Isn't

1762
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: a friend of Eric's redundant? Yes? If he belongs to Eric,

1763
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: that's what the of means. It's possessive. So why do

1764
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: we involve Eric's ad one? Like you don't you know?

1765
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Friend Eric's friend would be proper. But if you say

1766
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: he's a friend of Eric, that's also proper. Now yes,

1767
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: but a lot of people people would say Eric right now,

1768
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that I'm right. I don't

1769
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: know that I'm right about that one, So I'm not

1770
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: being Also, send Eric right, that's how I That's how

1771
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: I would write it, grammar, deep diving, ap parlo English.

1772
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I know very specific. I know you just got on

1773
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: a blog and just wrote on your own. Some of

1774
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: us had to go to college and learn how to

1775
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: do it. Perfect elitism not very good one. But Chris

1776
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: with a TI writes in gigantic pet peeve for people

1777
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 1: who use right at the end of a comment. Right, yeah, yeah,

1778
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: and parcel should be in embarrassing that he isn't in

1779
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: my opinion, Patriots were in football Siberia prior to his arrival.

1780
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: Although short, you can't ignore his impact of the absolute

1781
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: home runs he hit in the draft, which helped build

1782
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: the foundation of the early two thousands dynasty. How do

1783
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: you think an average NFL fan associates Bill Parcel's second

1784
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: most everybody he's a Giant's Yeah, but what would you say,

1785
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: would if you ask a fan him after I mean

1786
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: Patriots Cowboys? I mean he took the two championships in

1787
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: a row. I would consider Parcel as a Patriots coach

1788
01:36:56,360 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: after the Jets after Jean Yeah, okay, yeah, but yeah,

1789
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean I get he bounced around. Sure he was

1790
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: a hired guns. Definitely, definitely a hired gun. That's why,

1791
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: Like when Fred says no, because of how he left

1792
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and all that, I think that's a valid reason to

1793
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: say no. I pushed back on the people to say

1794
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: he was thirty two and thirty two right, like as

1795
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: if that he was turning around a dynasty, you know,

1796
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: turn around, Like his five is the same, you know,

1797
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: isn't as good as what Pete Carroll did? Like, who

1798
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: do you think was better? This is kind of like

1799
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: the games played for DeVante Parker DeVante Adams, Big V,

1800
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: Little V, which one guy plays and dominates, the other

1801
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: guy sits and you know, only dominates Stefan Gilmour. Evidently

1802
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: you know there's no comparison. Audrey from New Hampshire writes in,

1803
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: I was desperate for content last week, and so I

1804
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 1: listened to Andy's off Day podcast for the first time. Man,

1805
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: but I'm writing because I believe he was promoting his

1806
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: own Draft Night show. So unless he cancels that plan,

1807
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: you're not getting it. Well, he's definitely going to have

1808
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: to do something on Draft Night, but we were figuring

1809
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: he'd be here to do it, which is typically the

1810
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: way they do it. Yeah, we don't need Andy. We're fine.

1811
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: Eric is having a Vietnam flashback. Let's see. Um. I

1812
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: don't worry. We'll be in the foxhole with you, Eric,

1813
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: let's see. Nick writes in he says two things. One,

1814
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: if anyone can make Tim Tebow a tight end, it's

1815
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: Bill ha ha. I don't know what that means. He

1816
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: tried to make him a fullback, and that we can't

1817
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: afford to lose Myers. He may not be the most athletic,

1818
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: but he is reliable and consistent. I consider him like

1819
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: a Danny A. Mendola wasn't always making insane plays, but

1820
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: he's there when we need him. Also, as an Amazon driver,

1821
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: I will personally go pick up our next star receiver

1822
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: and deliver him. You get prime, Can you get him

1823
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: here in like two days or when you're already at

1824
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: my house to the Yeah, I don't know Amdolah Myers comparison. Well,

1825
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 1: he's not talking about stylists. The role when it comes

1826
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: in in a key party, always reliable. I think that's Myers. Okay.

1827
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 1: I think everybody just wants to I mean the infatuation

1828
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: with a slot no offense. We've talked about this a

1829
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: lot off the year. Like to me, I just if

1830
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: if the guy that they get is a slot receiver

1831
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: and he happens to be dynamic and explosive, I'm all

1832
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: for it, like all for it. I want a guy

1833
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 1: that can make big plays. If he is a slot guy, great,

1834
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't need a guy to make a bunch of

1835
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: catches that a three yeard like. I just I would

1836
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: like to have the offense sort of evolve, loose change. Yeah,

1837
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 1: but again, you want to give me Welcoer and Edelman

1838
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: in their prime. I'll take that, Yes, I will take that.

1839
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: I remember when Welcome is here, you call them loose change.

1840
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Now you got him number one on your bat. I

1841
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: also said that earlier in the show. Thanks for listening.

1842
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: I used to say that he's a product of Moss.

1843
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: I think it creates a lot of space for him.

1844
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: But I do think there's a little bit of nuance

1845
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: between a slot receiver and a guy who can play inside.

1846
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, I think like slot receiver, you kind of

1847
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: get pigeonholed as you know what WELC or what Welcore

1848
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: system was. But I think Edelman was kind of a

1849
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: guy that can play inside and could do a couple

1850
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: of little things. I don't see him as a pure,

1851
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: pure slot receiver. I think he's purely a slot receiver.

1852
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: He could not compete on the outside consistently. He couldn't

1853
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: he couldn't outjump cornerbacks on the outside and win outside

1854
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: the numbers. Maybe he's not an outside receiver, but I

1855
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: think he's not a band I don't think he was

1856
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: a pure slot I do, and I also think the

1857
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: whole slot thing was Brady. That's why I'm not infatuated

1858
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: with getting one. I don't have any idea what Mac

1859
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: Jones would do with Julian Edelman right now. Yeah, I

1860
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: don't know if that would be the best thing for him.

1861
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Lyndon from New Hampshire. Being a sports fan and a

1862
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: car guy, this one drives me nuts. As far as grammar,

1863
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,919
Speaker 1: an engine clicking or making a similar noise typically indicates

1864
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 1: there's an issue like low oil pressure, a loose component,

1865
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: or a leak. I believe the correct idiom is firing

1866
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: all on all cylinders. Hitting on all cylinders also works.

1867
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: So when somebody says, oh, they're really clicking, he hates

1868
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: that because if it's if it's a car reference, that's

1869
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Ah. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, I can see

1870
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: where he's going with that. I was going with your engine,

1871
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: which yeah, I was gonnce engine, but I saw that

1872
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 1: he overpronounced it too. Did you notice like you don't

1873
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: like it? They don't like it when I say engine

1874
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: because it's incorrect. But would how would you say don't

1875
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: let us engine and engine engine? But I'm not saying

1876
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: you're wrong, you know, it's like how thanks? But but yeah,

1877
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: had the date go? It was good. We really clicked. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1878
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 1: but evidently all means you didn't. But maybe it's like

1879
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: more of a puzzle piece. It clicks like they fit.

1880
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 1: But maybe that's what it's a it's not a car reference,

1881
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 1: but it also opens up another cannon worms for me.

1882
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: When you have car problem and you're trying to verbalize

1883
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,560
Speaker 1: what the problem is. There's it's making a noise, you know,

1884
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: like the fan belt or the rotors. You know, there's

1885
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: different things in the car that go wrong, and then

1886
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to google accurately what the problem it's going

1887
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: it's you know what that means that my biological clock

1888
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: is ticked in like this, Yeah, I've been It's going

1889
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: back to your thing about the friend thing, because I've

1890
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 1: thought about this before too, because like a friend of mine,

1891
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't say he's a friend of me like you

1892
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: would say, like you said he's a friend of Eric, right,

1893
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's a friend of me. I'd say

1894
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: he's a friend of mine, possessive. So the friend of

1895
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Eric's kind of makes sense because it's it's it's but

1896
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying a friend of mine. But if that's right,

1897
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: so you would have to say a friend of me,

1898
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I don't know. A friend of mine.

1899
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I think is fine. But I think the possessive is

1900
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: the of But you say that implies possession, but mine

1901
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: is possessive too, You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So,

1902
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think it's wrong either. I

1903
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's wrong either way. If you want to

1904
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: just cut a shot, you can say he's my friend.

1905
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: But that's the other thing is I think that a

1906
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of people like to say it the long way

1907
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: because it makes it sound like it's more proper, when

1908
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: most English people will tell you succinctness, the shorter, the

1909
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: better brevity, right right, And you know there's a million

1910
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: exist um. It drives me. You know, I have a

1911
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: million of him in my head. Now. You watch a

1912
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: baseball game and the announces in fairness, they have to

1913
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: talk more than most play by play guys, and he

1914
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: will throw him out. No, he just threw him out.

1915
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. It's not in the future. Right,

1916
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Like there was a groundball to short, he threw it

1917
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: to first. He's not and he will go down swinging. No,

1918
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: he already struck out right, you listen to baseball games.

1919
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: In every single Syracuse produced robot robot, we'll say it

1920
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: the same way in the future tense. I have that

1921
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: same pet peeve for newscasts, like if there's a car

1922
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: accident on ninety five in the morning on the six

1923
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: o'clock news, a car rolls over on ninety five. No,

1924
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: it's not in the process of continuing to roll over,

1925
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 1: rolled over past tense happened. It's more action if it's

1926
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,919
Speaker 1: in the present tense. But it's it's but it's inaccurate,

1927
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: I know. But I hate that. I hate that. But

1928
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,759
Speaker 1: then they put it in the future tense in baseball.

1929
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, listen to it, you'll never be able

1930
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: to roll over. Right. You don't hear someone say that,

1931
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: but it will. It'll stick with you and you'll hear

1932
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: it every time now because I'll put that, just put

1933
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 1: that bug in your ear. Baseball guys, and they always say,

1934
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's always off the glove of the

1935
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: second basement. It's never off the second basement's glove. Like,

1936
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why you have to say it like that, right,

1937
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,560
Speaker 1: I think we talked about before. That leads me to

1938
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: in La California. It's the four or five, the five,

1939
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: the ten. Yeah, it's not the four ninety five here

1940
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: or then that sounds so weird, like just take the

1941
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: one twenty eight right, yeah right, but we don't do

1942
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: the like you do. Yeah, the the or the freeway

1943
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: lane dropped the lane dropped the freeway once and they're like,

1944
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: where are you from? Like just by some freeway, isn't there?

1945
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Is there a pop song right now where they talk

1946
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: about riding up the four or five or something? Well, yeah,

1947
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it's the five to ten that maybe we can remember

1948
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 1: that from being lay every everything was the I like

1949
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: that song, but no one doesn't. I don't take one spot.

1950
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, it's the biggest hip, your hip, you

1951
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: got the music, got the hips, Spin writes in Again,

1952
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: he says, a pronunciate pronunciation off is in the planning stage.

1953
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, did you hear me? You're gonna

1954
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 1: need a judge. Pronunciation is in the planning stages because

1955
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to judge the world. You gotta have

1956
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 1: a final because there's no like we're still trying to

1957
01:45:54,240 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: figure No, it's what we say, it is, dude, it's

1958
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: what we say it is. We need like a like

1959
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: a linguist, you know, we need like like somebody with

1960
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: a bow tie, some glasses, preferably somebody. We have a

1961
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 1: lot of master debaters. Alright, alright, what that's my that's

1962
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 1: my side of the street. It's actually Andy st Justin

1963
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: writes in My question is, uh, if we bring back

1964
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: the throwback uniforms this year occasionally and have a bad year,

1965
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: does that taint the throwback uniforms? No? No, nope, it's

1966
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: still the best at some people's eyes. I'm sure Will Well, Oh,

1967
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: he's right, because in two thousand and two they were

1968
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: all blue a couple times and lost, and that's why

1969
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: everybody hates all blue. That's right, he's not. I mean,

1970
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: I know exactly where the question comes. I remember they

1971
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: wore those pewter or I think the silver the silver,

1972
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:51,560
Speaker 1: and it was because they look like dirty again that

1973
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: they didn't wear him. But it didn't like them. I

1974
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: like the lost too, they lost. I don't recall that.

1975
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: I think they did. Remember, Oh, Green Bay was a

1976
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 1: monochrome game, wasn't it all that four game losing streak?

1977
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 1: And O two had a couple of all blue games.

1978
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 1: Green Bay was definitely one of them. I think Denver

1979
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: might have been two blue Oh well done due No,

1980
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: but the silver one came. I don't think, I don't.

1981
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 1: I can't remember an important loss in the silver universe.

1982
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't important. I remember it remember in the silver

1983
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: like against Dallas Beati. I didn't like the silver though,

1984
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: I don't awful exactly. I think I think that's why

1985
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: they don't wear them, because they look bad, sucked. I'd

1986
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: be less triggered by the red, and probably the helmet

1987
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: would be more of of the red looks good, just

1988
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: looks good. Justin also says I like the pat Patriot logo.

1989
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 1: But I'm with Fred. I also like the flying elvis

1990
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: on a white helmet with the stripes down the middle.

1991
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Good day, good good, good day. So I think we

1992
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: should start all over again. New logo, new logo, new marks.

1993
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Really well, so what the revs did right yet? Really

1994
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: work well for them? Really? Or they haven't been playing well?

1995
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: But no, But I'm saying, like I love you think

1996
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: the American flag logo that this guy everything he doesn't

1997
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: like any change? Do you think that logo could tell

1998
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: me that's a good looking logo? Come on? Um, I

1999
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: think it's a good logo except for the stripe down

2000
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: the middle. Do you think that it's Yeah, I don't.

2001
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: It looks like Ghostbust talks about that. Yeah, but I

2002
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 1: would have no problems. I would have no problem without

2003
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: that stripe. I really would boring. But do you think

2004
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: that the REVS fans are UM arms while blaming the

2005
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: uniforms because they are off to a bad stop. Yeah,

2006
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: and they're all blue? Well they have they have many kids, right,

2007
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: they have many The primary one is all blue, is it? Yeah?

2008
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:41,879
Speaker 1: What do you mean? You watch all the games on television?

2009
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: I see all white ones? Are you are you? Are

2010
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: you tuning out? No? I watch every game? Oh so

2011
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: what has been the problem? Um, it's just I just

2012
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: think they're off to a bad start. That one Weather

2013
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 1: game was terrible. Uh, you know, Bow hasn't been in

2014
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: UM books. Just got back that last Yeah, that last

2015
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: that last game. Don't need to make any moves of

2016
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: the deadline. Got some new guys. They did have some injuries.

2017
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: Turner hasn't been playing. He's going to awesome and he out.

2018
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: He's out for good. I thought he was out. No,

2019
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: Well he's gonna be out in July. Yeah, because they

2020
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, transferred, they transferred the out. He's hurt now, um,

2021
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: so he could thought he was out. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

2022
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: so this and it just you know, I think they'll

2023
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: eventually click. But that on all cylinders. Thank goodness. We

2024
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: don't play in Colombia. Oh wow, that's an old reference. Yeah,

2025
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: the two Escobars. Yeah, good. Thirty for thirty. By the way,

2026
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: did you ever see that one? I have? Oh it's soccer,

2027
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: that's right. I lost about It's an interesting story, but

2028
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: I think that's the only thirty thirty I did see. Really,

2029
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: you don't want one. I don't want thirty for thirties.

2030
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: They were very well done. They're almost I know my

2031
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: sons like he swore by them. They're very now. They're

2032
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: very had, like the holes of the market, like they

2033
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: sold in the bookstores, like ten locker from ESPN and

2034
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,560
Speaker 1: it had all the thirty for thirty DVDs in it,

2035
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: like he had that, like he was into it. Why

2036
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 1: is it called thirty for thirty. It was the thirtieth

2037
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: anniversary of ESPN. They were going to do thirty document

2038
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 1: thirty stories thirty years. Yeah, thank you, I'm glad I

2039
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: asked that. Yeah, I always thought it was thirty minutes

2040
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: until I watched the ESCO it was. I was stuck

2041
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: in like a baseball reference, like he went thirty for thirty, Like, yeah,

2042
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: they just continued because now it's a franchise, so it's

2043
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: surrounded by abjecting confidence Bill and Vista California. It's either

2044
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Bill Vista in California or Bill and Vista California. Yeah,

2045
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: there's definitely where where's that? I don't know, but it's

2046
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: probably got a view. Thanks, good call, he says. Do

2047
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: you guys see Brady playing a role in either coaching

2048
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: or as an executive down the line? A few years ago,

2049
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: I would say no, But now, seeing how he's having

2050
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: a hard time walking away from the game, wouldn't be

2051
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: surprised to see it happen. I know he's obviously still

2052
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Just want to see him

2053
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: coach a team and add to the ring collection. I

2054
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: don't think there's any chance that he will ever coach.

2055
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: Ownership would be more like ownership or like an l

2056
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: way like yeah, overseer or an organization. I can see that,

2057
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: but mostly ownership. I don't see him doing the work.

2058
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: I don't see him wanting to do that work, not

2059
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: that he's not that he's lazy. I don't see him

2060
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: wanting to do that. The only I don't think he

2061
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 1: would find the juice in that. The only thing I

2062
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 1: would wonder about him though, like would he be like

2063
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: a Jerry Jones type owner, where like he's sitting up there,

2064
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: you know how competitive he is? Yeah, if they start

2065
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: doing badly, is he gonna be like pacing up and

2066
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: down the suite. Is he gonna be going down to

2067
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 1: the sideline at halftime getting in people's face and he's

2068
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 1: like is he gonna be that kind of owner guys right?

2069
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Or is he gonna be like, just give me the pads,

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01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I'll do it right, Like you're sixty, can still do

2071
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: it better than you? What's what about your honor? Who's honor?

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01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: I just I think unfortunately this whole episodo with him.

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01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: It's it just makes me believe that it's gonna have

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: to be taken from him, like his his playing days,

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01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: that he'll they'll have to be something that that forces

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: him to stop. I don't know. I don't know if

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01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: he'll stop now until he is forced. Yeah, Well, his

2078
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: father kind of predicted that it wasn't going to be pretty.

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01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: It's just like that's what But I think he was

2080
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: talking about Patriots, but he was right. Everything is also

2081
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: about his career though, like he's like you said, they're

2082
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to take him off on a stretcher before

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01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: he's like see, I don't think that. I think when

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01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: he's not playing well in his mind, he will stop.

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: But that's the thing in his mind. It might always

2086
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: be somebody else who's causing him not to play well.

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: Do you think he will play badly in your mind

2088
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: and not think that he's not playing well? Yes, I don't.

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01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: I think if if everybody, Yeah, that's why. I think

2090
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 1: if everybody's watching and say he can't play anymore, I

2091
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 1: think he will have known that he can't play. Yeah,

2092
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Willie May situation. But it's

2093
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: like he's so exacting. It's unlike Brett Favre, who like

2094
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: he's all over the place. He was a schoolyard player,

2095
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, and like you know, the way he plays,

2096
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: it's like I'm still playing well, Like that interception wasn't

2097
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 1: my fault, you know. Whereas Brady he knows he also,

2098
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 1: like Farv was a like five didn't want to put

2099
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the work in. Yeah, Five just wanted to show up

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01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 1: and play. Brady wants to put the work in. That's why,

2101
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 1: that's why five stopped. You're absolutely right, absolutely right, Yeah, yeah.

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01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,560
Speaker 1: He wants a copper fit. He wanted a hunt and

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01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 1: drink buds. Right, what dogs ain't gonna hunt? Who doesn't?

2104
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: Jack and Ann Arbor writes in pop ups, get in

2105
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: the way, don't wear all carper fit, Like just walk in.

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: I got all works? What am I? What do you

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01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: want me to say? I love copper, copper feel great? Jerry?

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01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Right right, come on, old man, what are you doing

2109
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: out there? Jack says uh. Devin Lloyd is not a

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01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: first round talent. At the Combine. He ran a four

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 1: six six forty, which ranked him sixteenth best. He was

2112
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: also sixteenth best and vertical jump tenth best, and long

2113
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: jump at sixty three and two thirty seven pounds. Lloyd

2114
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: has good NFL size, but he does not have the

2115
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: elite athleticism to justify using a first round pick on him.

2116
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: Can he play football? Can play football? Like those measurable

2117
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: numbers like that? That's what I hate about the Combine.

2118
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: He had a guy either have to run forty yards

2119
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: to make the tack right, a guy either sinks or rises,

2120
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, unfairly because of what he did

2121
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 1: at the Combine and just look at his tape. Can

2122
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: he play football? And I don't know. Like I've said

2123
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: this many times, I am not a guy that can

2124
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: watch kids in college and say he will be able

2125
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: to do this in the pros. There's always something that

2126
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: the guy can't do that you don't know. Yeah, we're

2127
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: not professional scout. I don't. I don't have that. And

2128
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, if the teams had it,

2129
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: they wouldn't miss so many guys. But I watched that

2130
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: guy play and I don't look at anything like four

2131
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 1: to sixty six he can't like, that's pretty good for

2132
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 1: inside linebacker to me, Yeah, I mean, there would the

2133
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: balls going get there. There were fifteen inside linebackers that

2134
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: ran better than four six forty fifteen. I'm not talking

2135
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 1: about the edge guys, the edge guys that running four

2136
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: threes like the receivers crazy, I'm not talking about them.

2137
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 1: There were fifteen inside linebackers of the combine that ran

2138
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: better than four to six six. Yeah, And I mean

2139
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: unless you I don't know if he even said it

2140
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: was just inside linebackers. I think he just said sixteenth.

2141
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know what he's talking about. I assumed

2142
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: he meant by I assumed he meant linebacker. Yeah, well,

2143
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: but could be outside linebackers too. I don't know. It's

2144
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: it's weird and the way they do the combat. Did

2145
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: I not just say I'm not talking about the edge guys. No,

2146
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I know, but those outside linebackers. No, But I don't

2147
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: know what he meant. I can't imagine that there were

2148
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: sixteen Nakobe Dean's that ran better than four sixty inside

2149
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: guys like I can't imagine there were fifteen other guys

2150
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: that ran like that. It's also like, unless you're a

2151
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: receiver on a go route on the outside, you're almost

2152
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: never running full speed in a great line for that

2153
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 1: long that your time is going to be. But it

2154
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: shows you how athletic quick facts like I understand it's

2155
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 1: a baseline, Like do you think like Tremaine, it's trem Edmonds, right, Tremaine,

2156
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: that's the Buffalo Tremaine right number forty? Think he runs

2157
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: a four six forty? I don't care. I'm gonna guess no.

2158
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's a big guy. He yes. No,

2159
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's a good player. Is he great? No?

2160
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: But he's good and he could play inside because he's

2161
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: fast enough, long enough, and he does a lot of things.

2162
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Cape cod look at the two Cape it is. I mean,

2163
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: I think this time of year two people get obsessed

2164
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 1: with the numbers because it's easy to stack and rank

2165
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: guys by No, you know, and so you look at

2166
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 1: the guys and some guys you'll you'll like, and you

2167
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: watch him and wow, I enjoy watching this guy. You know,

2168
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 1: um leoshanal is as another linebacker who's just was fun

2169
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: to watch for me, like just an absolute beast on

2170
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: the inside. I don't know how well he's going to translate,

2171
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: but I know I liked watching him. All Right, that's

2172
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Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I

2173
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: hope everyone has a good weekend watching Tiger Maybe we hope.

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01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know he's on. People don't care. All right,

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