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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast it's fresh out of Sunny Drops.

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Speaker 2: No from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It is around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I am Dan Hansis I have heroes here

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Speaker 2: because there is no off season for around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We're so, We've been told Mark.

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Speaker 2: Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and yes, because God damn it, we

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Speaker 1: One more person. Chnie Shannie's the queen queen.

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Speaker 2: She is the queen of NFL media.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: A lot of competition for queen of NFL media, but

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Speaker 2: well maybe not, but you are absolutely the queen of

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Speaker 2: around the NFL and and really all areas where you roam.

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Speaker 3: Wow, thank you so much. That's great.

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Speaker 4: I love being, you know, a regal member of society,

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Speaker 4: and this is great.

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Speaker 5: We've asked Patrick Claibon, who has a host of songs too,

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Speaker 5: like if he and we've encouraged him because he doesn't

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Speaker 5: do this, like to blast these like anthems suggesting how

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Speaker 5: great he is, how some how statuesque like inside his

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Speaker 5: house so that his significant other understands the weight of what.

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Speaker 1: She's been given in what she's scored.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and like so Gonzo at this point, it's

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Speaker 5: about eleven forty four am, probably in a bathroom, wandering

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Speaker 5: around at your compaly does he need to be reminded?

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Speaker 5: And would you willingly do that?

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Speaker 4: Or I just have it as my ringtone, so I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, how are you, Bud? I'm great? Good, good show,

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Speaker 1: big show coming up.

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Speaker 2: It is the return of the around the NFL Glossary

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Speaker 2: of terms because this off season just because right now,

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Speaker 2: well OTAs kicked off, so in a lot of ways, football's.

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Speaker 1: Football is back back.

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Speaker 6: In some ways Monday they started throwing the pigskin around yep,

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Speaker 6: in some ways, Mark, in some ways, I will go

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Speaker 2: So to celebrate the return of football, why not open

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Speaker 2: up the glossary and give the people you know a

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Speaker 1: That's what today is all about.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like Colleen, that's a public service that

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Speaker 2: we can offer that I believe will connect with the audience.

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Speaker 3: I think so too.

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Speaker 4: This is one of my favorite episodes that we do.

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Speaker 4: I love all the off season episodes and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, you want to get into it,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. We're going to try to get through it.

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Speaker 1: We did it in two parts last year. We're going

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Speaker 3: And I I'm just sorry over under on time for this.

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Speaker 5: I will say, we flippantly, flippantly, with very little discussion

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see last year.

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Speaker 4: Last year Mark said we were on like letter D

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Speaker 1: But it's back into one big cake. But here it is.

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Speaker 1: Here it is, here's your face, Here's where it goes. Greg.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, the conversation will dictate, like unless we want to

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Speaker 2: to do. Mark, and I know you don't want to

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Speaker 5: Whatever it takes. But are control and yet we have

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Speaker 2: announcing retirement, announcing retirement, and who was announcing their retirement.

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Speaker 2: David Johnson, All Pro running back with the Cardinals, he

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Speaker 1: So part one of this is David Johnson retired.

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Speaker 2: I remember being at the All or Nothing documentary premiere downtown.

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Speaker 1: The roster of the ATN all timers'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: Another idea, because I thought it'd be fun, we could

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Speaker 5: It's like we let our group fell in love with

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 1: We do like the team. I like the ATN all.

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Speaker 2: Right, ATN All Time team coming up later this summer.

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Speaker 1: Mark, I like that are your research? I will now

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Speaker 4: Colleen b is for blurred, as in the relationship status

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Speaker 2: we've got to ignore those things.

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Speaker 5: Right, People that have listened to this show for a

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Speaker 6: It's a perfect pay just to make that public service announced.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to this.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a cod piece rabbit hole.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I did these my way, so it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love this.

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Speaker 1: All right, D is for Doma. You don't have to

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Speaker 5: His favorite part of that he is for Dom De

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Speaker 5: Sandro Yes Okay, Senior Advisor to the GM and Chief

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Speaker 5: Security Officer for the Philadelphia Eagles East Coast Jesus. Big

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Speaker 5: Dom is more like Buddha, though anyone close to him

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Speaker 5: Sit in place, in peace and cast off anger from

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Speaker 5: into your beautiful body. Big Dom has hired a local painter,

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Speaker 5: Wiggins has been instructed to include the image of Howie

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Speaker 1: They are one with the gods.

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Speaker 5: When seven large pizzas arrive along with five kegs of

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Speaker 5: Jose Wiggins gets the first pick of meat Lover's pizza.

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Speaker 5: He is allowed to rest in the garden of sunflowers.

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Speaker 5: Dom and Jose Wiggins celebrate what is to come, fourteen

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Speaker 3: I mean that was gorgeous. That was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's huge of these back.

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Speaker 5: I think it matters more than people realize. Inside the building,

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Speaker 5: it's massive. I ate the security guy on the.

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Speaker 2: Sideline, I'm trying to get wins.

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Speaker 1: Here we come.

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Speaker 6: He's more than that. He's the senior advisor to the

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Speaker 6: He got a big the lifeblood of that team, Dan.

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Speaker 6: So it was funny at the Sixers.

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Speaker 4: Game waiting for a response from him, Babe about East

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Speaker 1: He was out of the Sixers.

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Speaker 6: They introduced Dom, and they introduced the recent draft picks.

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Speaker 6: They were both watching a Sixers playoff game. Dom got

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Speaker 3: That's the most is he forever has been fits the town.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say, what else is there saying?

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot more to great

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Speaker 1: job Mark. Everything just funnels into the same place.

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Speaker 3: I would like to.

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Speaker 4: See some of Wiggans work too. Like portfolio is our portfolio.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of an extension of your first one.

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Speaker 2: He is for extension drama, the Jared Goff contract, extension

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Speaker 2: but perhaps the tremors will be felt most in South Beach.

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Speaker 2: It's to a situation, is interesting situation, it's a certified situation.

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Speaker 2: This is Diana Rassini's reporting. Dolphin's QB two Tunga Bai

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Speaker 2: Looa is in the building for the start of Dolphins

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Speaker 2: don't see it yet. He's going to prove a lot

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Speaker 6: Think they've made their decision. I think they're probably far

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Speaker 6: Maybe it sets a little bit of a groundwork here

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Speaker 6: Goff's deal was really like a three to four year deal,

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Speaker 6: depending on how you look at it. The fully fully

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, though, like I just can you be

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Speaker 5: convinced if you're running Miami's front office that if Tyreek

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Speaker 5: Waddle or whoever that too, is just still the same

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Speaker 4: if he doesn't get the long term deal, like how

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Speaker 2: And even though Goff and Tua are kind of bedfellows

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Speaker 2: Had got through his first season healthy, but the rest

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Speaker 1: Not to be fair. No, that's what I said.

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Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why it has a tough

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Speaker 3: Fastidious is the word.

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Speaker 4: It's so fun to say, but as in the detailed

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Speaker 4: Players like Kirk Cousins, who has weekly notes from every

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's going to immediately.

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Speaker 4: Take that job, but if he does pop during these workouts,

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Speaker 6: I love that good word, and I do think when

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Speaker 5: Guys think it's like a huge benefit to roll into

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Speaker 6: And I'm adding one G to the mix here, and

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Speaker 6: that is Genghis Khan, who at one point, and this

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Speaker 6: is you know, exposing a bit of maybe a flaw

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Speaker 6: in our setup here that we had this topic before,

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Speaker 6: but this will be a different spin on it. At

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Speaker 6: one point, Genghis Khan was the perfect player comp for

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Speaker 6: David Johnson, who we mentioned announced his retirement. So for this,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna throw to an audio clip from October of

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Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, a week six T and F recap of

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Speaker 6: Cardinals forty nine ers, which Wes and I traditionally tacked

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Speaker 6: to the top, or at least that year, tacked to

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Speaker 6: the top of our preview episode. Back then, one bit

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Speaker 6: of context before you listen to it. Randy and started

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Speaker 6: Wes and Mark had spent that night watching the game

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Speaker 6: together at an unknown location.

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Speaker 7: Let's hear it, which brings us back to all or

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Speaker 7: Nothing when Honey Bidger's on the sideline saying, that's a

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Speaker 7: bigger version of Marshall fulk And what Mark Sessler would

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Speaker 7: like everyone to know tonight is David Johnson is like

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Speaker 7: Genghis Khan running with the horse and the wind is

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Speaker 7: blowing the main and he is taking the Mongolian steps

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Speaker 7: while the forty nine ers linebackers are little prairie soldiers

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Speaker 7: hiding behind trees hoping David Johnson doesn't trample them.

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Speaker 1: And with that over to you, that was they wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: So wow, there you go.

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Speaker 5: What I wish I could remember what preceded that speech.

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Speaker 5: I do know the Genghis Khan has populated half of

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Speaker 5: one percent of the entire earth, which is not from

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Speaker 5: David Johnson, but would be if David Johnson were healthier.

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Speaker 6: Perhaps now that night, I believe David Johnson had about

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Speaker 6: one hundred and ninety yards from Scrimmage. There was a

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Speaker 6: stack because I ended up you know, listening uh to

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Speaker 6: this recap here that him and Fitzgerald had combined for

473
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Speaker 6: ninety two percent of their offense. Yeah, I think he

474
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Speaker 6: had one hundred and ninety four yards. He was doing

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Speaker 6: that on the regular. But I do remember that night

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Speaker 6: West came in laughing and he had written it on

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Speaker 6: his phone in the notes, and it showed it to me.

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Speaker 6: So that's why I even was That's why I was

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Speaker 6: even laughing before he said it, because I knew. I

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Speaker 6: knew what was coming up, Genghis.

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Speaker 3: Khan, Prairie Soldiers.

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Speaker 2: That was incredible that I could by the the inflection

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Speaker 2: in his voice. I'm gonna guess. Was that recorded at

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Speaker 2: Culver City Culver City.

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Speaker 6: Studient, Yes, and usually we would watch the game there,

486
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Speaker 6: but that day he had gone off with Mark I think,

487
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Speaker 6: and watched it and then come back.

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Speaker 5: I would imagine there is a place in Culver City,

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Speaker 5: which I believe still exists, called the Garage, which we've

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Speaker 5: all been to.

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Speaker 1: I would have that was a TNF hangout. Yes, I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had.

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Speaker 2: I had narrowed it down to the cozy Joxers Daily

494
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Speaker 2: or the Garage. Those all were options where televisions were plentiful, excellent,

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Speaker 2: great to hear Wes also David Johnson getting Amazing Pop

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Speaker 2: set Love.

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Speaker 3: It was the David Johnson episode.

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Speaker 2: All Right, let's take a break and then we will

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Speaker 2: continue on with the glossary of terms. All Right, we

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Speaker 2: are back. We are off and rolling here. Let's move

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Speaker 2: to h with Mark Sasla.

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Speaker 1: All Right.

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Speaker 5: H is for Holly Hobby, an innocent children's doll discovered

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Speaker 5: during a modern day pirates raid at the Gulf of

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Speaker 5: Guinea in March of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Her child owner thrown overboard days ago. She gone poor.

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Speaker 5: Holly Hobby is taken from port to port by unhitched pirates.

508
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Speaker 5: Our little doll friend dreams of escape. She knows in

509
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Speaker 5: her belly that some pirates are kind pirates, more aimed

510
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Speaker 5: at human entertainment than modern day raids on ships filled

511
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Speaker 5: with offshoot heroin and stolen crates of fungions. She believes

512
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Speaker 5: the Las Vegas raiders are kind pirates. Here for our

513
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Speaker 5: enjoyment are Sunday thrills. She dreams of Gardner Minshew saving

514
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Speaker 5: her and saying, as he carries her little cloth body

515
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Speaker 5: away from a twenty two person raid vessel, you are

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Speaker 5: protected now. Minshew then tells her this we are a

517
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Speaker 5: sneaky nine win team that will be made fun of today,

518
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Speaker 5: but the giggles will cease when Autumn becomes a crucible

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Speaker 5: of the damned.

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Speaker 3: Oom Holly Hobby.

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Speaker 1: There she is, Yeah, that's her. If you're watching, if

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Speaker 1: you've ever she's been through.

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Speaker 6: Should we subscribe to the YouTube channel or not? This

524
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Speaker 6: is the biggest Give her some fingers, Give her.

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Speaker 1: Some fingers in a big spot. That's what I would say.

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Speaker 6: Do you feel like Mark is very fascinated with the

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Speaker 6: dolls and child equipment or toys from his you know, childhood.

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Speaker 5: If I recall them, I I guess that it pop

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Speaker 5: when it pops up during the day job.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to question that. Greg.

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Speaker 6: You're also sneaky supportive of the Raiders in the off season,

532
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Speaker 6: which is very anti where you were a year ago.

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Speaker 5: At this year ago, I listed like the four to

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Speaker 5: thirteen AFC teams that were better than them and lacerated online.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 5: I think that they're a little bit of a sneaky

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Speaker 5: under the radar operation.

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Speaker 2: That what let me ask you a question, what do

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Speaker 2: you what is it about them that gives you that

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Speaker 2: sense that they're.

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Speaker 5: I am more statistically looking at the league in general

542
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Speaker 5: and thinking that every year there's a team that, like

543
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Speaker 5: somehow in their regression candidate the minute the season ends,

544
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Speaker 5: sneaks out nine wins, but they aren't nine win worthy

545
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Speaker 5: and so it doesn't make a lot of logical sense,

546
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Speaker 5: but they keep coming. I was kind of meditating on

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Speaker 5: a which team is going to do something we don't

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Speaker 5: expect because this happens, And I just kept coming back

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Speaker 5: to the Raiders, and it could be as nonsensical a

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Speaker 5: take as I have in the entire offseason, but I've just.

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Speaker 2: That feels like you are locked and loaded. When we,

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Speaker 2: hopefully with Bill Barnwell again, when we do over unders, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I went under Greg. I think it's six and

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Speaker 2: a half. I went over four trying to be logical

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Speaker 2: a year ago. So I'm going to go in a

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Speaker 2: different You know what, you were logical.

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Speaker 6: You weren't off too much about that they weren't better

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Speaker 6: than many teams in the FC. Even though they won

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Speaker 6: eight games, only three teams four teams had a worse

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Speaker 6: record than them, which is strange marks all eight and nine.

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Speaker 3: And Abovemo Ballerina, No, but.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to someone about Dolly Pops.

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Speaker 3: If you recalled dollypops. No, my Prima Ballerina was like

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Speaker 3: the ultimate. I wanted one so bad.

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Speaker 4: I got it for Christmas, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: my Prima Ballerina disappeared and my parents said that they

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Speaker 4: put it down the basement. So I spent I don't know,

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Speaker 4: as a child, maybe a year and a half searching

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Speaker 4: the basement for my Prima Ballerina.

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Speaker 1: Why was it put away?

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Speaker 3: They took it back to the store, they.

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Speaker 4: Returned it, and they just said that it was down

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Speaker 4: in the basement.

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Speaker 3: So maybe one day I'll find it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Holly be kind of brought back some come up with

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Speaker 3: the the Suzanne.

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Speaker 1: I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've moved on from Suzanne. Now I'm with Andrea.

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Speaker 1: You let you let Suzanne.

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Speaker 6: You're a psychiatrist go yeah, my therapist therapist.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like emotional to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did in a text I need I

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Speaker 3: needed to move on.

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Speaker 1: I was Andrea doing.

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Speaker 4: He is great, love Andrea, honestly, lovely, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I'm writing the Stamach.

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Speaker 4: She has a vespa that she showed up on before

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Speaker 4: our appointment the other day, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: this is it.

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Speaker 1: This is party she does how she comes to your boot?

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I was early. Yeah, so good times.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Andrea, welcome to the Around the NFL team.

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Speaker 2: Let's move to uh I.

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Speaker 1: Key nambler. I is for indictment prior regimes.

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Speaker 2: This is a and you know, shout out to Nick

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Speaker 2: Shook who wrote this article on NFL dot com, and

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Speaker 2: Gordon and everybody else on the desk that's just hammering

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Speaker 2: out this content in the off season.

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Speaker 1: We've been there.

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Speaker 2: It's sometimes it's it feels like you're comb in the desert.

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Speaker 1: Here is a Nick Schuk story. Here's the headline.

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Speaker 2: Falcons tight end Kyle Pitts tabs himself quote super rookie

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Speaker 2: as he learns new offense hit the the trope alert

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Speaker 2: big funk. Because I hope this becomes one this idea

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Speaker 2: that you can just wave your entire career and say

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Speaker 2: I'm starting over and then say I'm a super rookie.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: It is an indictment, obviously, of everything that the Falcons

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Speaker 2: have done. Here's the exact quote. I would say I'm

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Speaker 2: a super rookie. I'm not a rookie rookie, but we're

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Speaker 2: all in this new offense, new regime, new schedule. We're

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Speaker 2: all in this fresh which sure, okay is true. Glad

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Speaker 2: he read that. He also said that, you know, we

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Speaker 2: talked about was he healthy? Has he been healthy? He

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Speaker 2: said that that knee injury that ended his twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two season prematurely lingered throughout twenty twenty three and what

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Speaker 2: was a really rough season for him statistically. I'll add

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Speaker 2: that I don't see anywhere in this story in this

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Speaker 2: may write up any did he have an additional procedure?

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Speaker 1: Did he do anything to make the knee better? Now

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Speaker 1: do I?

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Speaker 2: How do I believe on face value that the knee

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Speaker 2: is now fine even though it wasn't fine more than

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Speaker 2: a year after the injury that you said you couldn't

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Speaker 2: get over throughout last season. So keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: the health of Kyle Pitts and whether his knee is

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Speaker 2: gonna let him be the athlete he was coming out

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Speaker 2: of college. But anyway, the Falcons three the last three

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Speaker 2: years never happened.

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Speaker 1: It's super rookie season.

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Speaker 5: The only thing about it is that I can't think

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Speaker 5: of a team that you know, you were part of this, Dan,

634
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Speaker 5: and so were others like more frustrated with how that

635
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Speaker 5: offense was run two years running, but especially last year,

636
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Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of potential stars they're not used correctly.

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Speaker 5: Like could you make the argument that Pitts and the

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Speaker 5: rest of them feel like we're let out of jail

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Speaker 5: at this point?

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Speaker 6: Right, he got a thousand yards his rookie year, and

641
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Speaker 6: he had moments his rookie year where he did look

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Speaker 6: like that dude. He has been a big reason why

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Speaker 6: he hasn't lived up to his billion though the last

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Speaker 6: couple of years.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about the people, like you can even

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Speaker 1: with like.

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Speaker 3: A run heavy scheme and Desmond Ritter like he.

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Speaker 6: Just isn't moving the same way. He just said it

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Speaker 6: to Dan mentioned it like he just wasn't moving the

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Speaker 6: same way. He wasn't as explosive, he didn't win as

651
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Speaker 6: many like you jump ball type of situations, fifty to

652
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Speaker 6: fifty balls like Drake London is the perfect reason why

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Speaker 6: I think it's fair to criticize Kyle Pits. You look

654
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Speaker 6: at Drake London and you say that is a dude,

655
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Speaker 6: Like that guy might already be one of the ten

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Speaker 6: or twelve best wide receivers in the league. That was

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Speaker 6: a I think like a home run pick or a

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Speaker 6: triple pick, like he is that guy and you can

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Speaker 6: see that despite the surroundings and Kyle pits I don't

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Speaker 6: think you can.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they'll a maze.

662
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Speaker 6: He's not that old though, he's like Sam Laporte's age.

663
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Speaker 6: He's Yeah, he came out so young that.

664
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Speaker 3: I think he's only I mean twenty three.

665
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: He's twenty three right now. Yeah, you're in twenty four

666
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 6: in October.

667
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Speaker 4: So that's I wonder if they'll make him more of

668
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: a focal point, because he felt like he was just

669
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Speaker 4: always sort of in Drake London's shadow, which is impossible

670
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: because he's such a big dude, like physically, but it

671
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: just feels like all of the because I had this

672
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: later Dan, So now I have discribed situation, but the

673
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: amount of puff pieces that will be written about the

674
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: Falcons offense and where they can go from here. It

675
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: could be a ran new offense with a new head

676
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: coach and just like a complete renaissance for everyone there,

677
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: but especially Kyle Pitts.

678
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: You could keep it.

679
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 6: You don't have to pivot. I stuck with mine. I

680
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 6: had a sound drop, you know.

681
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a good challenge it. It will probably

682
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: happen to all of us.

683
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: We can find new ways to discuss the topic if

684
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: we if we wish, and maybe we don't wish.

685
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: So just and just to revisit in general, Atlanta's draft

686
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: strategy at the top of these drafts.

687
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: They took Kyle Pits fourth overall in twenty.

688
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: Twenty one, so yeah, but no one was No one

689
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: was killing him for that at the time.

690
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: At four overall. I feel like that was seen as

691
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: earlier than it expected.

692
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: That was like generational talent. He's like a he was here.

693
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he went fourth overall in twenty one.

694
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 6: A lot of people, I think sort of thought he was.

695
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: Is he the best player in this draft other than

696
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: you know, Trevor Lawrence.

697
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess Jamar Chase is in that draft too.

698
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, you took Drake London eighth overall in twenty two,

699
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: you took Bijon eighth overall in twenty three, and you

700
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: took Pennix eighth overall in twenty four, So you took

701
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: in the top eight. You took a tight end, a

702
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: running back, and a backup quarterback. In the last four

703
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: years three or the last four years. It's just it's

704
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: an interesting way to build your out your future quarterback.

705
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: You kind of need you kind of need one of

706
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: these guys to really hit and become what you thought

707
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: they were. Maybe both all right, up next Jay with

708
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Speaker 2: Colleen h Okay.

709
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Speaker 3: So Jay, I'm already trying to work on my new

710
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Speaker 3: V word.

711
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Here we go as in anxiety creeping in calling Andrea speed.

712
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: Dial jaunt, as in Dave Canalis's appointment in Carolina. Will

713
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Speaker 4: it be long term or will it be just the

714
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: latest in a recent line?

715
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: So under Tepper be talking.

716
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Speaker 4: The coaches have been Ron Rivera, there was the interim

717
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: Perry Fuel, Matt Ruhle, Steve Wilkes had a moment interim le.

718
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: We had Frank Reich and then his table took over

719
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: last year for a bit. And so now it's Dave

720
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: Canalis's turn. And what does that mean for Bryce Young?

721
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: Because Canalis was credited with all of the help that

722
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: he got that Gino Smith got in Seattle and Baker

723
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 4: Mayfield and Tampa Bay.

724
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: They brought in Deontay Johnson.

725
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: They drafted Xavier Laguette at the wide receiver position, so

726
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 4: they jouj the offensive line as well, so what does

727
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: that mean for Bryce Young and Dave Canalis because now

728
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: they will be linked forever in this season ahead.

729
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: I think Dave Canal I love that we're talking about

730
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: because I think he's under the radar, is going to

731
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Speaker 6: be like a big figure, yeah coming up, because he

732
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 6: has an interesting vibe, a ton of energy. It totally

733
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Speaker 6: makes sense to me that he's extremely close with Pete

734
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Speaker 6: Carroll and he looks at Pete Carroll as like his

735
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Speaker 6: greatest life mentor and coaching mentor, because he feels to

736
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 6: me like kind of a younger version of the vibe.

737
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll gives off incredible positive ventage I think brings

738
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 6: people with him and it's just like a lot, and

739
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: I think he's done a good job, Like he's done

740
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 6: a good job maximizing his guy. So if Bryce Young

741
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 6: is gonna get to like average this year, which I

742
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: think would be a good outcome, if he's just like

743
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 6: a solid enough quarterback, then I think Canais is the

744
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 6: guy to do it.

745
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: It was like no better resume builder than like two

746
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: years in a row reviving quarterbacks. Everyone falls for that.

747
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: This is a team because some teams get backed in

748
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 5: this situation. You can't make any personnel moves for years.

749
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: You got to just let these guys do it. You

750
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: can't recycle again. What the guys need attempting. I'm gonna

751
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 5: you're just like are you're arguing together?

752
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Like?

753
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 6: How hot is Dave Canalis? That that's how it started.

754
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 6: But ironically looking guy, it.

755
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: Is his hotness that has been his undoing in his past.

756
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: Breaking news, bunk, breaking ass news from the New York Post.

757
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: How many years ago. It's late January, but for us

758
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: it's breaking news.

759
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: New Panthers coach Dave Canal has had a quote secret

760
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: life of porn addiction and binge drinking.

761
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: We wrote a book on it. Yeah, Oh, how was

762
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: the book, mister know it all? Oh, he wrote a

763
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Speaker 1: book on it. Like he talked about this at ISA

764
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: and found out seconds ago he wrote a book.

765
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Speaker 6: He talked about it as opening press conference. He literally

766
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 6: has a book that I think it was.

767
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: I wrote a book on it. His faith.

768
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Speaker 6: His faith helped him work through his problems with infidelity, and.

769
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Speaker 3: That was part of the right.

770
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Speaker 1: It was third on the list.

771
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: The book has got to start meeting every Wednesday night.

772
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Speaker 6: The book is called This Marriage Question Mark, the question

773
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 6: that changed everything?

774
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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's interesting.

775
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 6: Cool?

776
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: What letter were you again?

777
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: That is wild?

778
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 6: I did?

779
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: I was this up? This? Wait, it's this marriage?

780
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, question mark, big time question mark and a big

781
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: this marriage the question that changed everything.

782
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: He said he wrote the book to help other couples.

783
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: Struggling with marriage, a question the author was asking himself

784
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: and then answers with the with the book and what

785
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: happened since.

786
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Speaker 3: How about he also used to be a cowboy boot salesman.

787
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: Well that's cool. Wait?

788
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: Or is it this marriage or is it this marriage

789
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: that really matters? Like like this marriage?

790
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the reader. The reader can decide.

791
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: How do you think he intended? I guess is what

792
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Speaker 1: I'm s I.

793
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Speaker 5: Don't remember you've given what were the example number two

794
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Speaker 5: of sound pretty similar?

795
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Like great art.

796
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: I think you want to leave some room open for interpretation.

797
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: With your book title, though, I don't know. I'd stress this.

798
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: It's not any marriage, it's this marriage. Stress this best marriage.

799
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 6: This marriage. Yeah, like that kind of like ours. Yeah,

800
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Speaker 6: while we're talking keep pounding. I don't know if you

801
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 6: guys knew. Last week was actually keep Pounding Day in

802
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: North Carolina and a number of events in communities, you know,

803
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 6: giving back to the community keeps did that?

804
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: I like that panthers oriented element comes up later in

805
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: the show. I just we just gloss right by it.

806
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: We don't okay, we don't discuss it after.

807
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: They have so the Todd Downing offensive coordinator of the Titans.

808
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: What book did he write?

809
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, he has the they use his poll quote right

810
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: on top of the cover and he ends it with Lizzie. Uh,

811
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: you know, but that is exactly what Lizzie and Dave

812
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: have provided with this marriage.

813
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: But then it's not a question mark there. It's tough.

814
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: And that's a tough one.

815
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Speaker 2: Because technically it should it should end with a question

816
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: mark there too.

817
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's on the editors.

818
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: But unless he doesn't have a question about it anymore,

819
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Speaker 4: that's your guy, now, Todd down and.

820
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Then we got him locked them in. All right, who's next?

821
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Speaker 6: I believe?

822
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Are we at kakay with Greg Rose? Okay?

823
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 3: That was I have regrets all of a sudden.

824
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Speaker 6: K is for or catalog gphobia K A T A

825
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 6: G E l ophobia, catalgophobia, which is the fear of

826
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Speaker 6: being ridiculed or laughed at. And you know, sometimes this

827
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 6: sort of phobia, this sort of fear.

828
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: It starts in childhood.

829
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Speaker 6: Just people that are exposed to criticism, maybe tough, and

830
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 6: they have a right and offended psyche. Whereas if you

831
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 6: have like a better foundation, maybe you're not a victim

832
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: of this. If some teams I think experience catalegophobia, they're

833
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 6: more sensitive, you know what I mean, You can probably

834
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 6: guess who they are. Like it often goes along with

835
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 6: like a history of little success. But I thought I'd

836
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Speaker 6: flip this around and name my three figures or teams

837
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Speaker 6: that would be least likely to have this who are

838
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 6: just so secure in their own secin Number one would

839
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 6: be or number three rather would be the Cowboys. Just

840
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 6: as an organization, you can say a lot about the Cowboys.

841
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 6: They will invite criticism if anything they like almost seem

842
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 6: like sometimes they seek it out in a way. I

843
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 6: remember when we were at training camp and there was

844
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Speaker 6: like a crazy story about a contract hold out, and

845
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 6: they make their players available to all the media so

846
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 6: that it can become a big story, even though they're

847
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 6: getting criticized in those stories. So I think in the

848
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 6: end they're kind of fine with whatever said about it.

849
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Speaker 2: I think they are very very confident to your point

850
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: in the cowboyness of it all and that that will

851
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: see them through the darkest of right.

852
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: So they're confident.

853
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 6: And since I three to one, yeah, Number two would

854
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: be Mike Tomlin. I don't know if we have that

855
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 6: old sounddrop's a good entry where he just was like,

856
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 6: I do not care, we do not care.

857
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Now there it is good child funk and.

858
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Speaker 6: I believe it, Like I just believe when when coaches

859
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 6: say like, we don't care about what they're saying on

860
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 6: the outside. When Mike Thomas says that, I do believe it.

861
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Speaker 6: Whatever he believes, he believes, I don't think he's getting bothered.

862
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: And then number one, I would guess it would just

863
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 6: be Jim Harbaugh. I mean I just feel like he's

864
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: he's rolling with whoever Jim Harby is could be on

865
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 6: this list too, But Jim, like he is who he is.

866
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: He's not going to make any day it's two day.

867
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Speaker 6: He's very he's very confident in who he is. I'm

868
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 6: scared of, not worried about the criticism.

869
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Speaker 1: I agree.

870
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: I think also the teams that have when you win,

871
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: that makes you feel your above outside. Like I'm sure

872
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: Andy Reid feels pretty confident in himself. A lack of

873
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: cattle phobia like a phobia, had like a phobia, what was.

874
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 4: The other phobia that we always talk about.

875
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: That's a tough one to People with cattle like a

876
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: phobia may experience symptoms such as burning cheeks, desire to

877
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: look away, awkward half smile, feeling like everyone is staring

878
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: at you, and goosebumps.

879
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: That sounds terrible, it's I feel.

880
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Have we not all experienced that?

881
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 6: It's It's some It's a very human yeah, feeling some

882
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 6: some level, I think, but like maybe to the phobia level.

883
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: All right, mark Elle, okay, Ell is for Lauri Meda

884
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 6: catillog phobia at the door.

885
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Here we go. Ell is for Laurie Metcalf. Do you

886
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: have anything else to say? You want to? I said,

887
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: check your ca. Elle is for Lauri Metcalf. Do you

888
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: remember her?

889
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 5: The hardworking Hollywood actress who played Jackie Harris, the issues

890
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 5: laiden sister to Roseanne on Roseanne, a nineteen nineties runaway hit.

891
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 5: Metcalf also starred as Kevin Costner's loyal aid female assistant

892
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: Da Susie Cox and Oliver Stone's nineteen ninety one film JFK.

893
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: Before appearing as a landlady in Leaving Las Vegas, a

894
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 5: Nick Cage Meg Ryan hit, released on October twenty seventh,

895
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five, Right during the Cowboys bye week, Dallas

896
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 5: was six and one.

897
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: There was a zero question on our earth.

898
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 5: To Greg's point about their power, we didn't need hollow

899
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 5: speeches or self loving statements to help us understand their

900
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 5: vice grip over the week, over the strong, over everything

901
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 5: in sports.

902
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Now we're in the dumb days? Or are we?

903
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: Has Jerry Jones finally found the special sauce the Dream Tonic,

904
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: a team with a handful of stars and a coach

905
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: playing for their contracts and NFL lives? How about Lori

906
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: Metcalf playing behind the scenes heroin Charlotte Jones in the

907
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six Hulu funded drama How about Them Cowboys

908
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 5: colon Daddy's Home?

909
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: That would be great.

910
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: I'd watch it following up the documentary, but i'd watch for.

911
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: A team like the Cowboys. You can't get up.

912
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 6: I mean, the Lakers have had docs and they've had

913
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 6: series and they just keep cranking them out.

914
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: I don't love the title too.

915
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't get the feeling that the Cowboys are gonna

916
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: be a buzzy pick right now.

917
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Isn't that good for once? Maybe?

918
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think is gonna be a reason for

919
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: it because I think we almost saw the best of

920
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: this Cowboys nucleus already and it wasn't good enough.

921
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: And what I was wondering because I was like, I went,

922
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 5: I wrote, is like going on the road and just

923
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: killing them. I was like, no, no, no, what if

924
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 5: it's flipped where it's like he's got them or they've

925
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 5: got them into a situation where it's like it's not

926
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 5: that the vice grip is on because that never feels

927
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 5: the way to some degree, but it's like all of

928
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 5: you could be like I could completely blow up this

929
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: team and start it over an off season from now

930
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 5: if I wanted to, if I wanted just to completely

931
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: nuke this thing, because everyone's kind of at the end.

932
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: So it's like, does that do these players on this

933
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: team respond or to that we don't care about critique

934
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: or anything? Are they just floating along? As they float

935
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: along all the time, We'll see.

936
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 6: Great job by Laurie Metcalf and Ladybird. That scene I

937
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 6: love Ladybird when driving her to the airport, That like

938
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: rated apparent and almost impossibly.

939
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: I believe she still plays.

940
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Jackie Metcalf on a television show that airs on ABH.

941
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Yes there's a spin off. Yes, I noticed that. I do.

942
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: I do a pretty good Roseanne laugh impression.

943
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear it? Oh? No, you don't

944
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: want to hear it. I won't know. I'm not going

945
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: to say it.

946
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: I would like to hear it.

947
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: You want to hear it?

948
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

949
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 3: No, I Shan does that a lot.

950
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: That's also like every evil clown from North America.

951
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: But if those who know the opening credits of Roseanne,

952
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: I think that was good.

953
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 1: And then I also have a kind of.

954
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: A running joke with my wife when uh, you know,

955
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: we're you know, it's the middle of the week and

956
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, we got two kids and I got a

957
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: busy house, like and hey, what's the dinner plan for tonight?

958
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: And then sometimes it will just like slip through, like

959
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: we don't have a plan, and at six point thirty

960
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: and then I'll do a joke where if Emily's like,

961
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll be like, I go into my

962
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Roseanne impression.

963
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: Like I'll go get them some hamburger, helper and junk.

964
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: She loves it. She loves it. Yeah, that seems like

965
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: a healthy way to approach that.

966
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: What a window into your week.

967
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about the sauciage gets mad, I don't

968
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: know and junk. All right, that is my Roseanne Up

969
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: next is this is kind of hard the way it's

970
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: it's graft out. So you just went right.

971
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: Mark I went, Oh no, no, Mark went and that

972
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: was Flory Metcalf.

973
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, So let's move to M

974
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: and it will be four. Mister Raider M jim Otto

975
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: a Pro Football Hall of Fame center. Those who know

976
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: know he wore double zeros and he was in the

977
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: pivot of some of the great Raiders offensive lines and teams. Ever,

978
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: he died at the age of eighty six over the weekend.

979
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: He was known as the original Raider, the dominant center

980
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: of his era.

981
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: He had a singular goal. Now here's a quote.

982
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: This was this mantra that he repeated over and over

983
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: again and John, never will they kick my butt?

984
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: That's the quote.

985
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 1: That's the quote. Never.

986
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: And he did a lot of butt kicking, starting in

987
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: the AFL through the merger and seventy.

988
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Retired after seventy four. He starred as a center.

989
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: We want to talk about whatever happened to Gary Cooper

990
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: when men were men?

991
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Otto started two hundred and.

992
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: Ten straight regular season games two twenty.

993
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Three including the playoffs.

994
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Twelve time Pro Bowler, there was talk that he should

995
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: be the face of the Raider on the logo with

996
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: the iPad eyepatch, he said, but with a broken nose.

997
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? He played center for the opener.

998
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Started his career.

999
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: With eleven straight All Pro teams and only one of

1000
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 6: those was a second team.

1001
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: Started out.

1002
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: I can't imagine there are many players in the history

1003
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 6: of the NFL that started their career with six straight

1004
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 6: first team All pros. Wow, as a rookie. Then he

1005
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 6: had a second team for one year. I don't know

1006
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 6: who beat him out in sixty six, and then he

1007
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 6: he racks up another four. That's that's on the short

1008
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: list of like all time, all time greats.

1009
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: When you go to like Pro Football Reference and you

1010
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: can see like, oh, you know, Kyle Pitts, like he

1011
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 5: started nine games and fin like when you go to

1012
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 5: Auto's page, like you said, it's just fourteens head to toe.

1013
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: He never missed.

1014
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: It's a different era, but also to say that he

1015
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: was the face of the Raiders, because I'll never forget.

1016
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 5: When I covered that final Raiders game, I did a

1017
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: separate piece talking to like eight or nine like dudes

1018
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 5: from that era, and a lot of them mentioned him,

1019
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: And there was a lot of competition to be the

1020
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: face of that Raiders team, from the coaching world, to

1021
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 5: the players, to some of the legends like and he

1022
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 5: was that dude, and so yeah, there's not a lot

1023
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: like him.

1024
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: I like that he talked about the hardest hit that

1025
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: he ever received it a game was from Ray Nichkei

1026
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: and that he broke his face mask and that's what

1027
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: broke his nose and said it the way that it

1028
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: was mm hmm.

1029
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: Broke my cheekbone, my zygomatic archbone.

1030
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: That's good.

1031
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: It attached my retina and my left eye. I was

1032
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: blind for six months and my left eye it was

1033
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: really bad. It all swelled up and I couldn't see,

1034
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: but I kept playing.

1035
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: I never went out of the game with a detached retina.

1036
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: But Kyle Pitts's knee is sore, guys, Oh, that is unbelievable. Anyway,

1037
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 2: a true warrior of the game passes away. Jim Otto

1038
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty six. Let's take a break

1039
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 2: and we will continue onward. All right, we are back.

1040
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: We are moving on, Colleen. You are in the pivot now.

1041
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

1042
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: The letter n N is for nascent, as in Detroit's

1043
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: reconstructed secondary and it's nascent phase. Woo. They needed a rebirth,

1044
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: hon me, after only Washington allowed more yards passing yards

1045
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: per game last season. They used their first two draft

1046
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: picks on corners, traded up for terry On Arnold, got

1047
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: Ennis Rakestrawl at sixty one, and then they traded their

1048
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: third rounder to the Bucks for Carlson Davis. So all

1049
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: three of those draft picks are potential Week one starters

1050
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: in their secondary.

1051
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 6: They addressed They looked at what their biggest issue was

1052
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 6: last year, and they couldn't have like addressed it any faster,

1053
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 6: any more aggressively.

1054
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: They tried to do it a year ago.

1055
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 6: To be fair, there was actually a little bit of like, hey,

1056
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 6: they've improved their secondary year ago at this time and

1057
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 6: those guys are no longer on the team. But having

1058
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 6: Brian Branch to begin with, like hitting on that draft

1059
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 6: pick and then adding you would think Arnold feels like

1060
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 6: a pro ready type of guy in Carlton Davis has

1061
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 6: already shown he's a good start.

1062
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a team like the Lions too,

1063
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: where it's like, don't have any lips on the radar

1064
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: and you you kind of don't have too many weaknesses.

1065
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: They've done that, They've done a lot in two or

1066
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 5: three off seasons. But you keep Aaron Glenn the defensive coordinator,

1067
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: you keep Ben Johnson the offensive coordinator.

1068
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: It's like, it is there.

1069
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: You could have rolled the dice that one of those two,

1070
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 5: if not both, could have been somewhere else right now,

1071
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: and you're kind of starting over with new phraseology and

1072
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: new coaches knew everything. That's like this team is so

1073
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: much about their coaching staff, and I love that they've

1074
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 5: kind of kept it all together and it's like, what's

1075
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 5: the weakness here? I know you could pick, you could

1076
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: nitpick a little, but not They've.

1077
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: They thrived under higher expectation last year, as we know,

1078
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: starting right in week one when they knock off Kansas

1079
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: City in the opener, they what are they finished with

1080
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: twelve wins last year where they land last year and

1081
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: five twelve and five and you know, make it all

1082
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: the way to the NFC title game.

1083
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: Damn near win that game against the Niners.

1084
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: So I can't sit here and then say, well, how

1085
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: will they handle expectations this year?

1086
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine.

1087
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: However, now it's a it's a bird of a different color,

1088
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: like you have to get over the hump. You have

1089
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: to Anything short of getting out of the NFC now

1090
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: is maybe not failure but a disappointment. So it's the

1091
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: Detroit lines as we knew them are totally transformed. But

1092
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: it's very hard to get over the hump. And there's

1093
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: still a lot of big time competition in the conference.

1094
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see what they can do. This is gonna

1095
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: be it's gonna be a battle, and we'll see if

1096
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: they can get over the hump.

1097
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: They're set up so well.

1098
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: And I also love the Terry On Arnold and Brian

1099
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: Branch played together at Alabama already, so that's kind of

1100
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 4: nice that they already have that probably energy.

1101
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 6: Then all right, Greg the letter, Oh all right, I'm

1102
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 6: gonna go with a great word obedient, complying with or

1103
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 6: submissive to authority. I like when a word just sounds

1104
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 6: like it should obey me. Obedience I'm saying.

1105
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: They call uncomfortable, but we're gonna keep moving.

1106
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 5: Greg was saying this exactly at this time Yesterday is

1107
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: Sunday in his house.

1108
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1109
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 6: I don't think if the Raiders and the Saints come

1110
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: out to Southern California for training camp and they are

1111
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 6: that they're fan, that they should be obedient to this

1112
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 6: NFL rule that because of marketing rights in the Southern

1113
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 6: California area that they don't necessarily have the rights to

1114
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 6: have fans at their training camp. Now, the Raiders have

1115
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 6: been more out in front saying we're having conversations with

1116
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: both teams about the logistics of it. Talks are still ongoing,

1117
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 6: so it sounds like they're pushing for it. The Saints

1118
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 6: aren't really answering questions. And I just feel like going

1119
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 6: to a training camp is such a outstanding way to

1120
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 6: grow the support of your team and have young fans

1121
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 6: go there for you know nothing and just be around

1122
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 6: football that having training camps without fans like doesn't feel

1123
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 6: like training camp at all. And yes, I know it's

1124
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 6: the Saints in Southern California, how many people are really

1125
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 6: going to be showing up there every day? I'm sure

1126
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 6: people would be showing up and so I hope they

1127
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 6: they pushed to make that happen. I hope it's not

1128
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 6: something where like I don't know that either the Rams

1129
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 6: and Chargers don't allow or that the teams really don't

1130
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 6: even want it. I don't I don't know, Like to me,

1131
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 6: that's that's not training camp. Don't be obedient in this way.

1132
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 6: And if and if they do try to keep fans out,

1133
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 6: like fans should let them know, Like you're trying to

1134
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: grow your your brand. The Raiders have done a great

1135
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 6: job over that Saints, Like you're trying to grow fans,

1136
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 6: don't don't keep them out.

1137
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: It feels like a weird NFL thing in general that

1138
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 5: like some of these stipulations kind of get like maybe

1139
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 5: why they were cooked up, but like what they went to?

1140
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 5: What was it Greenbrier for like years of it's right

1141
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: like secret compounds. I don't know what it is, but like, uh,

1142
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 5: like why would you have any fan base?

1143
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: Not I would just promote it everywhere, So I'm with you, Like.

1144
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: It just sort of feels like this is just California here,

1145
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Well it did.

1146
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 6: The rule would apply I guess everywhere, but it only

1147
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 6: matters because everyone's trying to come to southern California. Yeah,

1148
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: because they're technically in the Raiders. I mean they're the Raiders,

1149
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 6: and the Saints are coming into the Chargers and Rams

1150
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 6: area and they either need to get some permission, but

1151
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 6: there's questions like about whether they even want the permission

1152
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 6: and how they're going to do it. The Raiders do

1153
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 6: say that they're they're trying to figure it out.

1154
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: Saint Steam president Dennis Lauschia explained that on site logistics,

1155
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: not NFL marketing rules, are.

1156
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: A bigger hurdle for the team.

1157
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 2: He believes that finding room for fans that you see

1158
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: Irvin's campus is going.

1159
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 6: But the okay, I read that too, But I went

1160
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: to multiple great training cramps with the Rams, Like my

1161
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 6: kids had a blast the day they went, and that

1162
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 6: was the same facility.

1163
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: So just saying and they had like food trucks and stuff.

1164
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: Right, it was all happened. You said cramps and just

1165
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: trying to.

1166
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 6: Move past that, I'm out there are a lot of cramps.

1167
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: Then good one, good one, all right, Well, hopefully that

1168
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 2: all works out.

1169
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Gregy up to Mark Sasser, the letter.

1170
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: P all right, here is where some crossover occurs, and

1171
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 5: I don't give an f p is for Pennix Comma

1172
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: Michael Kama Junior in our news from I listen to

1173
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 5: dense white noise on earphones, hail and rain and chaos

1174
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: in the woods while banging out alphabet narratives. As an

1175
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 5: adult male pressing question, how will humans react when Michael

1176
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: Pennix Junior takes over as QB one for Atlanta? As

1177
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: early as week six, the two and three Falcons crumbling

1178
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 5: inexcusably twenty three to ten to the Carolina Panthers. A

1179
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 5: sense of dread hovers beloved Kirk Cousins hasn't been himself

1180
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 5: all season. Five touchdowns, ten picks, including a pick six

1181
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 5: just before the half. Raheem Morris recalls a tweet from

1182
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 5: Michael Pennix Senior issued on June twenty seventh, twenty twenty.

1183
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 5: You see my boy, He's coming into his zone. I

1184
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 5: can feel it and tweet. Morris decides be his own man,

1185
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: throw chatterbox media types into the circular file, and bring

1186
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: Pennix Junior into the fire. Four touchdowns later, the Falcons

1187
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: thirty eight to twenty three victors over Carolina are reborn

1188
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: as a new creation of the elegant South.

1189
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: Wow that is quite a scenario.

1190
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 6: It's giving up on Kirk quite quickly, although he's struggling.

1191
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 6: It's two and three. It's a tricky situation. It's early enough.

1192
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: Could you trade him, Probably not with all the cap

1193
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 6: hit that you would get, but maybe the next offseason.

1194
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 6: People like myself that say, okay, they're locked in the

1195
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 6: Kirk for two years. I mean there is a crazy

1196
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 6: scenario where if this happened, for instance, that they could

1197
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 6: trade Kirk next offseason with that guaranteed.

1198
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 5: Haven't they set up a sort of a dangerous situation

1199
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 5: where if Kirk, let's say it did struggle.

1200
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this happens. This is a bit four fetch.

1201
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 8: But we've created a dangerous Yeah, like your fan base,

1202
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 8: if he lights it, Pennix is like whipping the ball

1203
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 8: like they say he will, like during training camp, Like

1204
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 8: your fans, it just's lodged in their minds, like, wait

1205
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 8: a minute.

1206
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: This just misses a game.

1207
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 6: Happens to the quarterbacks, especially on Achilles.

1208
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: Not him until last year. But yeah, yeah, but pre

1209
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: season too.

1210
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: We've seen it so many times where like the rookies

1211
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: come in, they light it up.

1212
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 3: It's preseason.

1213
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: They're not playing like great competition, and that's when everything starts.

1214
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I think of Lamar like everything if

1215
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: you that's certainly Michael Penas could be a star.

1216
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: You don't know that, but it's like, but then everything

1217
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: keeps for me going back to the same question, but then,

1218
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: why did you sign Kirk Cousins. Why did you put

1219
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: this roadblock in front of him and the kid and

1220
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: create this hyper awkward situation that could undermine the entire operation.

1221
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the courl Never that Howie Roseman

1222
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: talked about when they drafted Jalen Hurts and they had

1223
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: Carson Wentz in place, and he was like, the Eagles

1224
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: are trying to be a quarterback factory.

1225
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: Okay, but they I'm not. There was a different situation

1226
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: than this is. This is a totally unique situation. We

1227
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: haven't really seen before. And we'll say I would imagine

1228
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: Cousins plays one year and they trade him, right.

1229
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 6: I think, I think if he plays well, he plays

1230
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 6: two years. Kirk had his first press conference in front

1231
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 6: of the Atlanta media. Handled it all well, I thought,

1232
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 6: really embraced pen X. But the one key moment where

1233
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, that was kind of the real

1234
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: answer was you know when they when they asked about

1235
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 6: the like, well, if you had known they were going

1236
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 6: to draft pen X, and he was just like, well,

1237
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 6: I don't deal in hypotheticals. It's like because he was

1238
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 6: trying to be feel at least a little real in

1239
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 6: that moment.

1240
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: Yet it was an all time rug pull on a

1241
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: player too to to give him that contract, promise him

1242
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: in the world this is your team now, and then

1243
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: without any notice, draft the replacement before he ever played

1244
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: a game. It's it's unreal. It's it's it's crazy. We're

1245
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: going to see how it all plays out. Tell me

1246
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: more about this white noise, Mark.

1247
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't need to use it anymore. But back when

1248
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 5: our newsroom I did this morning just because there was

1249
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 5: a there were people shouting like something or other. So,

1250
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 5: but like when our newsroom was crazy, it's like, oh,

1251
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 5: like everyone's just chat and like, you know, eating sandwiches

1252
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 5: and throwing food arounds, like, oh, but breaking news just happened,

1253
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: and you have to write three graphs in four minutes.

1254
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: Like I was like, f the surrounding noise because it

1255
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 5: does bother me more than something so I would I

1256
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: found because I also had a babies, like a baby

1257
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 5: or two babies at the time, Like a lot of

1258
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 5: white noise happening in the house, Like this sounds helpful

1259
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 5: to a baby to sleep, Like I can write with

1260
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 5: this where I can hear nothing but intense like nature

1261
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 5: sounds that were consistent.

1262
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: It's the only way that I can concentrate on anything.

1263
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's but I use brown noise.

1264
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 4: That's like a different frequency and it's much better.

1265
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: I use it for sleeping.

1266
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: Music is a nice music, I'm too distracted by the

1267
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: lyrics and everything else, Like I just need nothing.

1268
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: Almost it got.

1269
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: You to a place of nothing, nothingness.

1270
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: So the old newsroom there was not only food being eaten,

1271
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: but being thrown around.

1272
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, everyone's like everyone know, but you know,

1273
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: you know how it was.

1274
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 5: It was like a cartoon, but you were like the

1275
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 5: one person writing the story, and it seemed like everyone

1276
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 5: everyone else is just giggling and dancing and running around

1277
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 5: and like ses.

1278
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: Acually in the damashek era right.

1279
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 6: And then that you had that Tuesday sandwich tosses. You

1280
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 6: had that happened Thursday sandwich toss and it's the Friday

1281
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 6: pizza toss.

1282
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: I will cover my ears like sometimes because I could

1283
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: not concentrate.

1284
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: We are the same, Mark, I.

1285
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: Mean, I cranked out the story though I got to you.

1286
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: Sure did? You got it done? What's the other alternative?

1287
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: Take a walk? It is? It's Mark's mind.

1288
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 3: It's great if.

1289
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: You really turn it up like in your ear, like,

1290
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: it removes all.

1291
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: I could actually I could picture you writing a Rex

1292
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: Grossman three hundred order right now.

1293
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: It's really nice.

1294
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: It's peaceful.

1295
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 6: But if you just like turn the dial like seven percent,

1296
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 6: it's like the start of a horror movie.

1297
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1298
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: Or you here, you see Mark focusing and then you

1299
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: look down and you see the headphones aren't actually plugged

1300
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: into anything?

1301
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: All right? Que que right? Is that right? Que me? Q?

1302
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Is for question? Colon nailed it? Will you watch the

1303
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: latest version of Hard Knocks?

1304
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: I will, yep, company woman, absolutely.

1305
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: I haven't watched all the NFL offerings with Hard Knocks,

1306
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 6: and I didn't even watch the first in season one

1307
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 6: for long, but I'll give you this one a shot

1308
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 6: because of when it's coming out in the calendar. I

1309
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 6: actually think it's a perfect time. It is when you're

1310
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 6: it's I think early July when it's why they drop

1311
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 6: the Netflix show. Then you're you're hankering for a little

1312
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 6: football and just that it's different and it's off season

1313
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 6: and it's draft stuff, like I'm curious how deep they

1314
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 6: go into the front office stuff. I'll check check it

1315
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Speaker 6: out once, you know, I'll check it out this season

1316
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: or a few episodes, and if it's good, you stick

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01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: with it.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think we talked about it on our

1319
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 5: schedule release show. It's the New York Giants covering what

1320
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 5: from the end of the off season until essentially when

1321
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 5: it comes to.

1322
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks colon off season with the New York Giants.

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it.

1324
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 6: I would imagine a lot of it is the draft.

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Speaker 1: How could it not.

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Speaker 3: I want to see the Saquon fallout, right, I.

1327
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 5: Guess like you, but like I also, my one thing

1328
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: is because I think the one thing about Hard Knocks,

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 5: even though Hard Knocks is like what happened in the

1330
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: past week, like the training camp one, you're tied to

1331
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 5: those storylines and you find out new stuff. I want to,

1332
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: like if it's going to be an hour about why

1333
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 5: the Giants signed Brian Burns, like, okay, I want to

1334
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 5: really learn about how front offices work.

1335
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: That's all.

1336
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 5: I like, the news itself is from four to five

1337
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: months ago, and we've been talking about the Giants at

1338
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 5: that point for four to five months, so like you

1339
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 5: got the challenges make that fresh, and I mean they

1340
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: must think they can do that.

1341
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: And there's a reason why those that know the Hard

1342
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: Knocks history and Connie, we've done the podcast the last

1343
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: exactly if you know the history, and the history is

1344
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: rich Rich. The Giants have never done the show. And

1345
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: the Giants are one of those Tiffany franchises that distance

1346
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: themselves from things that are quote distractions. This is something

1347
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: they can control, so it's like this is an in

1348
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: house operation where they could work on the edit of it.

1349
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: Part of what makes the original and still greatest iteration

1350
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: of it the Training Camp version for sure, And why

1351
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: I wish they would just honestly focus on The Hard

1352
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 2: Knocks and less about being a brand and just like

1353
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: that show, because I think that show is special as

1354
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: you can't as a team totally control it because happening

1355
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: in real time week to week, you have control of

1356
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: the edit, of course, and they can and you've seen it.

1357
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: I feel like more in recent years than try to

1358
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: filter out things that maybe they don't want focused on

1359
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: when it comes to hard knocks, but still, the way

1360
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: a training camp moves along, you're kind of flying, you're

1361
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: a little bit vulnerable, and teams like the Giants don't

1362
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: like that. So this to me feels like an in

1363
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: house NFL Films operation that the Giants signed off signed

1364
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: off on. It's safe, and Giants fans will like it.

1365
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: If I was a Giants fan, i'd watch it, And

1366
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: if you're not a Giants fan, maybe you will, or

1367
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: maybe you'll.

1368
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: Wait for the original version. That's all I can say.

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: I mean, as soon as I hear the music, I

1370
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 4: want to watch though, So I'm like, there's drawn to it.

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a different count of characters, though, it's

1372
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 5: not gonna be funny players talking about the REATA stores.

1373
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of front office people, right, It'll be different.

1374
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 6: The reason why I have some I have more optimism,

1375
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 6: I think, is that these team and ultimately look NFL

1376
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 6: Films were all one big company NFL. It is always

1377
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 6: an in house operation when it's NFL Films. These team

1378
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 6: videos that they make of behind the scenes for the draft,

1379
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 6: which is even more explicitly like they're not going to

1380
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 6: put anything that puts the team in a bad light.

1381
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 6: Have been pretty informative and a lot of times like

1382
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 6: does have stuff I'm interested in and those are created

1383
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 6: by the team. Now those are quicker, you know, and

1384
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 6: this is a longer format, certainly, but I think that

1385
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: that's why and I am interested. And then when they

1386
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 6: show when they have good team inside ones that are

1387
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 6: made by the team, often it's pretty good. I like

1388
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 6: Hard Knocks a little dangerous. Yeah, it's like when we're

1389
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 6: at the.

1390
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: Brown's Hard Knocks and you see the head coach and

1391
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: offensive coordinador battling for the control of the team in

1392
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: front of the coup to the Browns credit, like they're like,

1393
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: you know what, we agreed to do this, this is

1394
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: what's happening.

1395
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: This is going out there.

1396
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: Like I just the more you take away from that world,

1397
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: I just I like the idea of like, oh, I

1398
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: want to see what happens here? How are they going

1399
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: to handle this? Like are they going to spin it

1400
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 2: or not it? And just show us the unvarnished truth

1401
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: of the situation. You know what, I don't know if

1402
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching that, but you know what, I am always

1403
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: checking out the latest edition of Walking with Giants.

1404
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys.

1405
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: This is, of course the great Christopher Walking, Oscar Award

1406
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: winning actor, I believe, native New Yorker and obviously a

1407
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: huge fan of the New York Giants.

1408
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: So he started his own podcast.

1409
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: And one thing we haven't really touched on is Tommy DeVito,

1410
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: quarterback of the Giants, became a cult hero at the

1411
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: end of last season.

1412
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: Tommy cutlets and all that.

1413
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's like, we don't really hear

1414
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: about Tommy so much anymore, even though they didn't draft

1415
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback, so hopefully he is a He was just

1416
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: at the.

1417
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: Draft with me. We did a pizza contest.

1418
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: There we go.

1419
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: So he's still in the mix and Italian American ways.

1420
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: But what's his NFL future? He said.

1421
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Apparently there's an article he had as a chip on

1422
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: his shoulder, and I had to hear what Chris Walkin

1423
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: had to say about it.

1424
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Here's Oh, here's an excerpt from that.

1425
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 9: It's time once again for Walking with Giants with me

1426
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 9: your host, Chris Walkin. Change has come to my beloved

1427
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 9: football team, the New York Giants, Big Blue, the g Men.

1428
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 9: We all go through it change. My neighbor is now

1429
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 9: a woman, or in the polance of the times, she

1430
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 9: was always a woman. She's now just living her truth.

1431
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 9: Hold for a fact, now that you've done a plotting,

1432
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 9: let's talk about someone going through change.

1433
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: On the Giants.

1434
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 9: Homegrown talent Jersey Boy done good.

1435
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 10: The entire nation got behind his Italian mannerisms and Guido

1436
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 10: good looks. Tommy DeVito, he feels slighted, cast aside. He

1437
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 10: feels as if he's yesterday's news and he has something

1438
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 10: to say.

1439
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 9: He's not going away the same way we all do

1440
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 9: one day.

1441
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: Enough for the rhyming.

1442
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 9: Well, I got news for you, Tommy.

1443
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: It's going to be hard.

1444
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 9: It's going to be had.

1445
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: The best quarterback who's ever lived, man.

1446
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 11: Myth, the legend, Eli Manning, Mike drop walking off.

1447
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: He is a huge eife and we've heard that man.

1448
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like that was the full episode and like

1449
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 5: the you know, the ability to take the football analysis

1450
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 5: and link it to our own lives.

1451
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for Chris, who is from a

1452
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: story at Queens by the Way, so a New York

1453
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: native to the book.

1454
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 6: Hopefully he can fall in love with Drew Locke. That's

1455
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 6: what I hope for Christopher Walker.

1456
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: Good call, good call the letter R with Colleen.

1457
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 4: Wolf okay R for recop Wow, recuperation. We're recouping, and

1458
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 4: so is Anthony Richardson. Thegotten rookie had four starts last

1459
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 4: year and now we're all just sort of waiting for

1460
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: him to come back with that throwing shoulder. He's playing

1461
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 4: for the right coach and Shane Steichen, but everything we

1462
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: heard was that and saw was he's an athletic freak.

1463
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: And it was so exciting when he came out and

1464
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 4: he was able to back it up. And then we

1465
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 4: only got a month of football from him. So now

1466
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: he has ad Ni Mitchell there that they added in

1467
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 4: the draft, obviously Michael Pittman Junior who the Colts locked

1468
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 4: in as well, and they drafted two offensive linemen early

1469
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 4: that also.

1470
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 3: Help with him up front.

1471
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: So I feel like the fact that he looks like

1472
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: he's all the way back from surgery right now, he's

1473
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: going to be a huge storyline. The Colts are going

1474
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 4: to be a huge storyline. And is it going to

1475
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 4: happen to me again? Am I going to be like

1476
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 4: front and center on the Colts?

1477
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: You? I know?

1478
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: But this is kind of like we're watching all of

1479
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 4: the recuperations for guys like Joe Burrow as well, but

1480
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson and Joe Burrow at the top of the list.

1481
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: I like the division they play in, Connie, I think

1482
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: it sets up well for them to make a run

1483
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: here potentially, and so much of it as Ken Richardson

1484
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: stay healthy and grow as a player. But I think

1485
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: they're a fun team to get behind. Again, I don't

1486
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: think you're in the wrong here. I think it's funny.

1487
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 6: So I was quite high on the I did the

1488
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 6: projected Starters series for the AFC last week, and I

1489
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 6: looked at that roster as like, Chris Ballard's done it again.

1490
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: I like him.

1491
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 6: I kind of liked them as a sneaky division winner,

1492
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 6: and I went, we watched this college tape and stuff

1493
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 6: during the draft season. It's like, whenever I'm watching that,

1494
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 6: I know I'm not a real draft knick, because all

1495
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 6: I'm thinking is like, wouldn't it be nice to just

1496
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 6: watch them professional football where they're better? Oh dang, So

1497
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 6: I watched some Anthony. I went to some Anthony Richardson

1498
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 6: because he really only played two games that he'd survived.

1499
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 6: It was so short and it's electric. It's also a

1500
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 6: little more inconsistent. I think then people realize, like his

1501
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 6: accuracy issues definitely showed up. But I think he made

1502
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 6: good decisions and it's just the good throws and the

1503
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 6: good runs that he made were just so good that

1504
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 6: you want to see more.

1505
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: And the year that you jumped on.

1506
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 5: They're not bandwagon, but just generally their operation, like running

1507
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 5: back goes down, the offensive lineup like just crumbled, everything

1508
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 5: fell every I mean, it was like an apocalypse. But

1509
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 5: where they are now two years later, there's a lot

1510
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 5: to believe in, and I think a lot of it

1511
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 5: is like Anthony Richardson's at the center of it, but

1512
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 5: the Ballard's defense and what he's built up and what

1513
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 5: he believes in. It's like it's been a slow process.

1514
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 5: But like I believe in their defense. I did last year,

1515
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 5: and I think, like, you're gonna need to be able

1516
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 5: to get to the quarterback in this division and there aren't.

1517
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 5: The Cults to me also have a really interesting coaching staff.

1518
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 5: I think it begins right there.

1519
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just two years early on it, so

1520
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm I never left frame it that way.

1521
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: I think what they lacked last year was like a

1522
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: big time difference maker.

1523
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in their offense. Now they potentially have it.

1524
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: They don't want to put too much on the shoulders

1525
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: of the kid, but hey, they brought him in to

1526
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: be the franchise and let's see if he is.

1527
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: He might leave the league.

1528
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 6: Maybe Kayleb Williams will in the the OTA videos that

1529
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 6: are just oh, that's awesome, like the Cold Showed one

1530
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 6: where he throws at eighty five yards or something.

1531
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: Bonkers. I thought I was he's great for that.

1532
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: I thought I was stealing my Fantasy league last year

1533
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: when I took Richardson high. Not high, but it was like,

1534
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: this is gonna be my QB two. That shocks the word.

1535
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: But I would do it again this year. I think

1536
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: we're rolling the dice on all right. Next it's me

1537
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: with we got one more break to take. Actually, it's

1538
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: take one more break and then we'll close this out. Alright,

1539
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 2: We're back, Greggie, Take us, baby, take us where we

1540
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: need to go.

1541
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 6: The letter S is for super Chargers, which will make

1542
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 6: more sense when we play the following clip from the

1543
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 6: twenty fifteen season.

1544
01:11:51,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 12: Hmm, Sandiego super Chargers, San Diego Super.

1545
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: I gotta remember that.

1546
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 5: That just felt it was important, I mean sorry, attached

1547
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 5: to an earphone with that is a rugged way.

1548
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: To go out?

1549
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 6: What attribute by you?

1550
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes and this show twice, Greggie, good work.

1551
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 6: Jag may or may not have just heard that well

1552
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 6: looking up for the other clip and thought that would

1553
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 6: be fun to just play on the show.

1554
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh the San Diego.

1555
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: Charge Look, I just did that with myself for you Mark, Now.

1556
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 3: For you Mark.

1557
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 6: The context for that was we thought it was the

1558
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 6: Chargers last game in San Diego. It actually wasn't remember that.

1559
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 6: We thought it was they were gone and then they

1560
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 6: ended up putting, so that was one more year.

1561
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: But that that was why you sang the safety laying

1562
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: on the field after the game? Was it that game? Yes,

1563
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: that was twenty fifteen. That's right. Let's see if the

1564
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: falsetto still holds all these years later.

1565
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 5: Super charm juice, you've got it, super chim.

1566
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: Well, I was younger, it was only thirty five then, Yeah,

1567
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: you can't hold the notes forever.

1568
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 6: Great job by Big Funk just having that, like ready

1569
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 6: that the cut up version.

1570
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: Hey, let's give it up for Big Funk. Who's listen,

1571
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: let's hear you. Let's hear your music.

1572
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: Funk.

1573
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quiet around here right now, and there's not

1574
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: a lot of staff to say the least.

1575
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: And uh, this is my favorite theme song is big

1576
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: Funks and.

1577
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: Yet one man could do it all big funk on

1578
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 1: the walls and two having that baby maybe funk wheel

1579
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: two you got an so right now funk.

1580
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've been dating for seven whoa yeah, crazy right seven?

1581
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: Legally married. I believe partner. We all domestic partners. I

1582
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: think they just took away that law the grandfathered in though. Yeah,

1583
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: clock sticking, she's expacting.

1584
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 13: It doesn't help that Eric's my neighbor too. I was

1585
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,480
Speaker 13: gonna say a double date. Yeah, we had a few times.

1586
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: Because Eric got engaged, married and now child.

1587
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's crazy it all happened at once because funk

1588
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,879
Speaker 13: feeling I hate.

1589
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: Well, we can't assume that his significant other wants a baby.

1590
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: We can a lot, Yeah, kind of.

1591
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 13: We're kind of the same mind where it's like we

1592
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 13: want to be able to afford one before we have

1593
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 13: one or open that discussion. But it doesn't help that

1594
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 13: Eric's wife will be walking around and like lately the

1595
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 13: conversation has been like, oh sheoks so pretty she's so beautiful.

1596
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: You know that's a sign.

1597
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,480
Speaker 13: And I'm like, you know, I'm watching TV. I'm like, oh,

1598
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,520
Speaker 13: that's crazy.

1599
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: Seven years is two thousand, five hundred and fifty five days.

1600
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: Give Lee just Google.

1601
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: All right, good job though, funk behind the glass. Thanks,

1602
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,520
Speaker 1: thank you.

1603
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: That was his girlfriend pulling him out of the studio

1604
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: to go down to the city courthouse.

1605
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's see where else? What do we got left?

1606
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: Where are we?

1607
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 6: Mark t T tea.

1608
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 5: Is for too many, too many long reads by matter.

1609
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 5: Here's a quick one. I know, well, we we learned

1610
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: the lesson, but we unlearned it.

1611
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: It's streamlined this.

1612
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: I think we've done a good job. It is moving.

1613
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: I do have a quick one for you, though. I

1614
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 5: have four playoff teams not returning. In my little world

1615
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 5: of worlds. I looked at the standings from last year, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Miami,

1616
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 5: and the Rams. If I'm wrong, replace one of the

1617
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 5: teams with someone else, because my sports lock of the

1618
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 5: week is that four new playoff teams will emerge, as

1619
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: they have every year since Hillary Clinton first discovered the

1620
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 5: magic of a pants suit. Go okay, Pittsburgh Miami, Who Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Miami.

1621
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 5: The Rams, Okay, I think the Rams stay in so well,

1622
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 5: first of all, it's funny.

1623
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,480
Speaker 1: Gets behind Rams news at eleven's's.

1624
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: Funny that you're taking the Browns out when you've been

1625
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 6: unhappy that they're not getting enough pop this offseason.

1626
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 5: As a I was, I was suggesting that they aren't

1627
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 5: not unhappy, but they aren't. And I think there's a

1628
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 5: regression elements there. But I'll take out the Bucks just

1629
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 5: for the Rams.

1630
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: Therey Bucks. Well, that's sensible. Rams. I felt was a

1631
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: little edgy, but like, I think you got it right. Yeah, really, Job,

1632
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: you're right? Are we just moving this segment along? Well, I.

1633
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 5: Don't think Pittsburgh is crazy, Altho, I think they've got better.

1634
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 5: Cleveland's not crazy.

1635
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: Rams.

1636
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 6: Okay, I got another one. I'm taking out the Cowboys

1637
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 6: and putting in the Packers. Whoa the Packers were in

1638
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 6: the playoffs?

1639
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: All right, you want to go, I'll see are crazy

1640
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: and razy. I'm taking out the Texans and putting in

1641
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: the Cults.

1642
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 6: Im the idiot that was I'll take out I'll put

1643
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 6: in someone else. I don't know who I'm putting in,

1644
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 6: but I'm taking other Cowboys.

1645
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta put it you're gonna put in the Raiders,

1646
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna I might, I haven't gone.

1647
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 6: I haven't done that part making these predictions because we're

1648
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 6: just gonna foo.

1649
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: Sorry Mark, Ye, it's been deemed too early, but put

1650
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: the Packers into the playoffs.

1651
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, because like where they could have won the

1652
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 6: super Bowl last year?

1653
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: That was all right, good one, Mark, good luck to you.

1654
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: Well no, because I know you don't want to be

1655
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: right on that, but maybe you will be.

1656
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: We shall see you unfair. That's what it stands for.

1657
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: Hey, this new schedule, you know, we have moved, We've

1658
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: not so quietly started to shift away from a traditional

1659
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: Sunday schedule, uh to more.

1660
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: This is like the NFL's primetime era. And and the.

1661
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 2: More streamers that have that are involved, the more mouths

1662
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: there are to feed, the more days of the week

1663
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 2: that are being used. That it's it's creating schedule havoc

1664
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: that we've never seen before because the schedule makers. And

1665
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: maybe that helps us to explain why the schedule, based

1666
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 2: on what we heard with some reports, ended up being

1667
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: delayed a week because they're like, how do we make

1668
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 2: this all work anyway? Warren't sharp of short football Puts

1669
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: had this little data point since nineteen ninety four total

1670
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: a total nineteen ninety four.

1671
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: How long ago was that thirty years ago?

1672
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: A total of three teams over thirty one years played

1673
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: at least seven games where their opponent had over one

1674
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 2: week to prepare three and thirty one years. This year alone,

1675
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,440
Speaker 2: there are two teams who play seven games versus opponents

1676
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: who have over one week to prepare. Two teams with

1677
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: seven plus games. The Patriots are on the other side,

1678
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: greg they play zero. The Chargers. Here we go six

1679
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: games versus teams with extra rest and prep for them,

1680
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: zero games versus teams with short prep. The Patriots zero

1681
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: games versus teams with extra rest and prep for them.

1682
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: Three games versus teams with short prep. So my point being,

1683
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: I get it. Listen, the NFL is here, They're making money,

1684
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: and everyone loves the primetime games, but it feels like

1685
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: it's adding in in terms of look at my Jets

1686
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: for it, and they have six primetime games in eleven

1687
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: weeks to start the season, and they're flying all over

1688
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,480
Speaker 2: the place to do this. It is a major challenge

1689
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: for the schedule makers and your boy Mike North to

1690
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: try to figure out how to make this fair because

1691
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: it's quite simply not as simple as it used to

1692
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: be the way the schedule is laid out.

1693
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 5: I like I think number one, there's they're already were

1694
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 5: costs to all this because like it's just a it

1695
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 5: just inched up by derivations, more so this season. But

1696
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 5: like players, I listen to what the players say about it,

1697
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 5: and it's it's their the health. It's like the rest

1698
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 5: is not just like someone's going to get there and

1699
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 5: like strategize their way to a win. It's like the

1700
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 5: players of an extra two or three days to rest.

1701
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 5: I think that matters so much towards the end of

1702
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 5: the season. And yet it's like asking like a seven

1703
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: thirty seven to suddenly stop in mid air and turn

1704
01:19:58,960 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 5: around and go the other way.

1705
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: Like it's not changing.

1706
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: It's just not going to change because at least not

1707
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 5: anytime soon, because it's the money. It's like, oh, no matter,

1708
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 5: we can put a schedule release out on the same

1709
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 5: day as the NBA playoffs and blow them.

1710
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: Out of the water.

1711
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 5: So it's like why stop, And like I don't think

1712
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 5: there is a lack of care for certain like people involved,

1713
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 5: namely the players and coaches.

1714
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: In their lives.

1715
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 4: But there's also no way that they're going to be

1716
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 4: able to make this completely fair for every single team

1717
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: with all of the different iterations, like they try.

1718
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: They have to give up something to get something right. Yeah,

1719
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: but to give up some of this the competitive balance.

1720
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, you're getting millions upon millions of dollars in

1721
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: primetime victories.

1722
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 6: It kind of it reminded me as you were discussing it.

1723
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 6: It's a good point to raise of the NBA because

1724
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,839
Speaker 6: in the NBA, there's so many what they call schedule

1725
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 6: losses where one team's on the fourth on a back

1726
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 6: to back, on the road, third night in four games,

1727
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 6: and the other one's been resting for like three days

1728
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 6: and just waiting for it. And like, being an NBA fan,

1729
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 6: you almost have to have this context of like where

1730
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 6: your schedule is and where the other one is, and like, oh,

1731
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 6: that's a fine lot. Like some losses aren't real losses

1732
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 6: because it's just like you were in such a tough

1733
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 6: spot you can't overcome it. You know, you hope that

1734
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 6: that all evens out over the course of an NBA season.

1735
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 6: In this case, there's so few games. I don't know

1736
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 6: if it evens out. We need a little more research

1737
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 6: on like how much does this affect these teams and

1738
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 6: on the records versus the rest.

1739
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the NBA also they and it's an issue because

1740
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: fans paid top dollars to go to the games and

1741
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: then Lebron's.

1742
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: Not playing it's a rest day.

1743
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: And it's like you could do that because it's a

1744
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, eighty two game season or whatever in the NFL,

1745
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: like every game, even now that we're at seventeen, it's

1746
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 2: so precious these games.

1747
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: So it is it's something, all right, v Connie, Okay,

1748
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: football is completely different than basketball.

1749
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: Good that's a nice final point to put on it, Mark,

1750
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: good work, Colleen.

1751
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: All Right, so you grabbed my Kyle Pitts one earlier,

1752
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 4: so I had to pivot off of volu and we're

1753
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 4: going with vicissitudes instead, and the many vicissitudes.

1754
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: That former Jets quarterbacks have made.

1755
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 4: And in this exercise, it will be watching two in particular,

1756
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 4: so a competition in Minnesota between Sam Darnold and JJ

1757
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 4: McCarthy and then the competition between Jared's Didham and Zach

1758
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: Wilson and Bo Nix in Denver. Now that one isn't

1759
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 4: exactly a heated one. But still, these quarterbacks have been

1760
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 4: through a lot on their journey, not always the best situations,

1761
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 4: but they've dealt with some adversity, and now we'll see

1762
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 4: if they're able to weather the storm and come out

1763
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: on top.

1764
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: The cistitude a change of circumstances or fortune, typically one

1765
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: that is unwelcome or you.

1766
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: Just rewrote that during the show.

1767
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in the very impressive the changing topic

1768
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 6: sort of has you know a good example of a

1769
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 6: vicissitude of my topic here, I believe because it's sort

1770
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:01,839
Speaker 6: of related.

1771
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: I I do have a vital for w Yeah for w.

1772
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, my w is wanton, which is a It's a

1773
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 6: versatile word. It can mean a lot of things. I'm

1774
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 6: not talking about the soup, right, you know, the dumpling.

1775
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 6: It can mean like with wanton disregard like you're just

1776
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 6: totally wanton. Yeah, like like it deliberate. It's say it

1777
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 6: either way. You were saying vicissitude is all crazy too.

1778
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: We were just we're blowing it. We're blowing it.

1779
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 6: I thought you saidudes, I think just vicissitudes.

1780
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no tea in the middle.

1781
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,520
Speaker 5: There is there is a t wanton.

1782
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but one of the one of the definitions though

1783
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 6: on Yeah, that was ahead. One of the definitions is

1784
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 6: kind of is lustful that you know, you have that

1785
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 6: wanton like desire, libidd inness, wanton desire, lavicious. You know,

1786
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 6: there's a lot of words like that. And that's how

1787
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 6: the Vikings fan base is going to be about JJ

1788
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 6: McCarthy by the time we get to meet week one,

1789
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 6: much less by the time he plays I found.

1790
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 5: A sentenced Greg to help you. Her peeks burned as

1791
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 5: she recalled how forward she had been.

1792
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: How wanton. Yeah, do you understand the context now, Dan? Oh? Absolutely,

1793
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Well I know the word okay, And.

1794
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 6: So when you're ordering like a medium wanton.

1795
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: That was a bad job.

1796
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: You have a medium wanton soup. That's what I do. See,

1797
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: I have it wrung the other way.

1798
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: I was thinking about a fortune cookie this whole time.

1799
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: I was just totally different too.

1800
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: I blew it.

1801
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 6: These Vikings fans they're gonna they're just gonna be hot

1802
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 6: for this kid.

1803
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 13: Uh.

1804
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 6: If you think about quarterback history with the Vikings, haven't

1805
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 6: had a ton of homegrown guys. They had cull Pepper

1806
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 6: for a minute, it was hot. They had Teddy. They

1807
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 6: were very excited about Teddy. But other than that, since

1808
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 6: like nineteen seventy seven, Tommy Kramer was the only first

1809
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 6: round pick I could find it, he was like a

1810
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 6: late pick that had to wait two years. They've all

1811
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 6: be always been cycling through these older guys like Culpepper

1812
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 6: wasn't old, but like for rat at one point in

1813
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 6: his career of Farv Post Packers, Cousins, Post Washington, Keenum, Bradford,

1814
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 6: it's like, now we got our own guy.

1815
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be They're just gonna be feeling. I agree.

1816
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: That's why I was. I was bummed out. They're gonna

1817
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: be ordered some.

1818
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: One JJ playing. I think he's gonna play Week one

1819
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: most likely.

1820
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I would think, well, yeah, I mean it just makes it.

1821
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: It's really more on Sam Darnold to completely if he could.

1822
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Do anything unless JJ really like bottoms out in training camp.

1823
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: It's a great situation though.

1824
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, that could help Bradford to that way that maybe

1825
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 6: he looks so good in camped up they're like, all right,

1826
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 6: let's let's see if his ceiling right now because he

1827
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 6: has the experience, feels a little higher.

1828
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start out with him, but we'll see.

1829
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: All right, very good We are coming near the end

1830
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 2: of the line.

1831
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Right now, up next, Mark toughy x X is for

1832
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: your ex lover from eleventh grade. Well, that's ex, I know,

1833
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: but it's the X in ex. Got it? And Randy,

1834
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna to figure that out. A little bit of

1835
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 1: a cheat.

1836
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 5: We're just going to move forward, and I am willing

1837
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 5: to acknowledge I did well. Little did she or he,

1838
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 5: depending your choice, Little did this person know that you

1839
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 5: adored the National Football League? You quietly huddled away on

1840
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 5: a desktop computer in your room, creating statistical reports long

1841
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 5: before a pack of nerdlings cooked up EPA and various

1842
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 5: dense nonsense to describe beauty. Of course, this was a

1843
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 5: bad move. You should have hitched like to the fields

1844
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 5: beyond the community center where said love interest was drinking

1845
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 5: out of a solo cup with Matt Troy and fill

1846
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 5: in the blank while you watch Clash of the Titans

1847
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 5: on VHS. As you become more concrete in your desire

1848
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 5: to track the prowess of Warren Moon, she becomes more

1849
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 5: unhinged and lost to the wind. You call her up

1850
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 5: and her dad answers, and it's like you're on the

1851
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 5: phone with Mause tongue do you think today she or

1852
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 5: he depending on who you are understands And we're cycling

1853
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 5: back that Bryce Young will unanimously when comeback player of

1854
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 5: the Year, while Dave Canalis nabs Coach of the Year

1855
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 5: for a Panthers team that carves out nine wins.

1856
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: Tepper be tingling.

1857
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 3: Great end and.

1858
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 5: We've already discussed the topic, so we don't necessarily need to.

1859
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 6: One topic that we that Dan and I especially like

1860
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 6: to hit on repeatedly is Mark's strategy with these crazy predictions.

1861
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 6: This is even for him, is in this show where

1862
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 6: it's not really about predictions, for him to sort of

1863
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 6: drop in five predictions that no one will ever remember

1864
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 6: in less one of them hits, and then he'll bring

1865
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 6: it up.

1866
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 5: So that's like what you've done thousand times. You've gained that.

1867
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: I respect it.

1868
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: Well, good luck to you on that one. Yeah, that

1869
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: you're spamming like.

1870
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 6: I am, because by by August these will not be

1871
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 6: your predictions.

1872
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: No, he'll go the other way. Well, life changes.

1873
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: But if Bryce were kidnapped, but if they're seven and

1874
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 2: four in November, there's.

1875
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: A lot of narrative.

1876
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 5: There's a lot of narratives behind that if, but but

1877
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 5: if in that case, and to be clear, you're talking

1878
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 5: about the nineteen eighty one version of Class of the Titans,

1879
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,839
Speaker 5: not the twenty ten no VHS, neither.

1880
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: Of which old school.

1881
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 5: It's like the first thing that I saw on VHS

1882
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 5: back in the day when.

1883
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I was in middle school. I lost to a girl

1884
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: in wrestling. Ew.

1885
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 4: I was just trying to think the whole time who

1886
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 4: my boyfriend was in eleventh grade?

1887
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: Can anyone remember boyfriend?

1888
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 6: Of course you remember who I did eleventh year, June

1889
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 6: your year, you can't remember.

1890
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 3: I don't really remember my childhood.

1891
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Wow, toughy. You got have to talk to Andrea about

1892
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: it that.

1893
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm really high.

1894
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: On live All right, let's go to letter Why uh.

1895
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 4: That you?

1896
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: It is? It is? Oh? Why for?

1897
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 2: This is from the movie John Wick or maybe the

1898
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: sequel Why is For? You leave me no choice but

1899
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: to declare you ex communicado. Yeah, yeah, we can't have

1900
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Harrison Bucker in the Kicker Club anywhere we got. He's

1901
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: gotta go, he's gotta go. We're gonna We're gonna slide

1902
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: him out of the club.

1903
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: That's all. He's excommunicado.

1904
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's fighting you on that.

1905
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: Well, you'd be surprised. But we're gonna move him out.

1906
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do a penance. He's on the

1907
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: outside of the velvet ropes moving forward.

1908
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 6: It's a great honor and it's a privilege, and it's

1909
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 6: up to you.

1910
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: More than anyone who gets in and row.

1911
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: You're the bouncer, right, And it brings me a note

1912
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: because he's in a tremendous kicker, but get him out.

1913
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: It makes me think of the old Peyton Manning SoundBite

1914
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 2: from the Pro Bowl those years.

1915
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 6: Ago about Mike vander Jack. The old Mike vander Jack

1916
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:55,520
Speaker 6: line reminds me of that one key going.

1917
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Which takes us to letter.

1918
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: Z z z is it out Connie z is for

1919
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: zeal As In how Brock Party is approaching this off season.

1920
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: He finally has a full off season as the starter.

1921
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: His rookie season, it was Trey Lance that was there.

1922
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 4: He was just learning the playbook when OTAs began in

1923
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 4: year two, he was still recovering from the UCL And

1924
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 4: now here they are fresh off of a Super Bowl

1925
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 4: loss but Super Bowl appearance, and now he gets the

1926
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: full off season healthy to get everything in line.

1927
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 5: For this year, and they did not trade Brandon Ayute,

1928
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 5: they did not move on from Deebo Samuel Like he

1929
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 5: also brock Party has bulked up. I think it's like

1930
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 5: for a lot of these quarterbacks, like you need a

1931
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 5: couple off seasons to figure out exactly. And he already

1932
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 5: was kind of thick like in general, but like he

1933
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 5: is bulked up. And like I like any quarterback three

1934
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 5: years running in Shanahan's offense.

1935
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,440
Speaker 6: And I do like if he's gonna be my avatar,

1936
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 6: you know, as an NFL quarterback, that he's bulking up.

1937
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 6: That were not just these little little children.

1938
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Bulking season.

1939
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Is not a trope that quarterback x beefs up for

1940
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: biggest year ever.

1941
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I mean, unless you unless're Lamar Jackson.

1942
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, Like I think the losing it was

1943
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 6: a trope for him though two years ago it just

1944
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 6: didn't worry out. Yeah, he just decided to bring it back.

1945
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 6: He's also coming off you know, probably his worst three

1946
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 6: game stretch of the season happened to be the playoffs.

1947
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 6: I think he played well enough in the Conference championship

1948
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 6: and title game, but he I mean in the Conference

1949
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 6: championship in the Super Bowl. But I think he wants

1950
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 6: to play at a higher level than he did.

1951
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 2: And if this is, if this is who he is,

1952
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: which is good, that wouldn't be surprising either. I mean

1953
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: he is he was a you know, mister irrelevant for

1954
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: a reason. It's not like we should expect him to

1955
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: now keep developing into.

1956
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 1: The next Tom Brady.

1957
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: Like maybe this just is Rock Party who's a good

1958
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: quoest quarterback, and especially when he's in the system, but

1959
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 2: he's not going to be the guy that's special. And

1960
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 2: is that enough for these Niners to finally get over

1961
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: the hump?

1962
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 6: I have some optimism that he can continue to improve

1963
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 6: because I think if he was drafted in the second

1964
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 6: round or the first round and like Tuahead put up

1965
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 6: the two seasons that he just put up, like we

1966
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 6: would look at a guy entering his third year who

1967
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 6: improved a lot from year one to year two, which

1968
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 6: is easy to forget, like he was a lot better

1969
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 6: last year overall, and that he can continues keeping it

1970
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 6: going and he's in the best situation maybe in the

1971
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 6: entire NFL.

1972
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 5: I was like, if he hit the ground like running

1973
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 5: the way he did, like I think it can improve

1974
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 5: because like to do that that quickly like tells me that, like,

1975
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 5: we don't know what else he can do, right. I

1976
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 5: think it's only because of the draft stock in a

1977
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 5: situation that we're kind of like punching holes, are looking

1978
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 5: for something that might be fool's gold, and it's like

1979
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 5: we are in fairness.

1980
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: It's also play which there have been you know, it

1981
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: hasn't always been incredible. There have been moments where it's like, Okay,

1982
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: is this the guy? Is this truly the guy they

1983
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 2: hope he can be. I don't think he's been flawless.

1984
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't think he was flawless wawless.

1985
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 5: But it's also like I could point to like ten

1986
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 5: first round picks that have had streets.

1987
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: No, he's already a hit. I mean he's a huge

1988
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: hit for them regardless. I don't know.

1989
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm not even arguing anything other than this idea that

1990
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: he has to continue to get better and better, that

1991
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 2: maybe he is like Jared Goff level good, and if

1992
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 2: he is is not enough, It's.

1993
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 6: Funny how different we would look at him if, like

1994
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 6: they the protection was better on that third and four

1995
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 6: play where Chris Jones just got in fresh And the

1996
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 6: more I've watched that, it's like that's really not on

1997
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 6: pretty in any way. It just was a tough spot

1998
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 6: that like if he hits that throw, then he just

1999
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 6: and granted it was the drive is mostly about McCaffrey anyway,

2000
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 6: so it's it's always tough to pull out. But either

2001
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 6: way he would have come up with a touchdown, you know,

2002
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 6: winning drive.

2003
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2004
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: He I think you were pointing out that he had

2005
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: a terrible game on Christmas against the Ravens, you know,

2006
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: lit up a terrible Washington team at the end of

2007
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: the regular seat and then in the playoffs the three

2008
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,799
Speaker 2: games that were you know, three games of sub ninety

2009
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: passer rating.

2010
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 6: Cockers game was bad, Like they should have lost that game,

2011
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 6: and then that would have been a different narrative that

2012
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 6: people would have been blaming him.

2013
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: Right, So he didn't light it up in January and

2014
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: into February. But listen, huge hit for them that this

2015
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 2: guy kind of saved their butts in so many ways

2016
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: when they whiffed so badly on Trey Lance.

2017
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: And and let's see if you can build on it.

2018
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 1: We did it his life.

2019
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 6: You know what, we're only doing two shows a week.

2020
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 6: We're gonna give him a nice meaty sandwich that you

2021
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 6: can throw around the office.

2022
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: They'll be tossing it around all right.

2023
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Any final thought, Colleen, you've said a visualization unnecessary.

2024
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 3: The food fights in the.

2025
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 6: The meaty sandwich. Most people hear that and they like

2026
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 6: get hungry.

2027
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm starving.

2028
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,480
Speaker 1: It's the way I am say it right, unrewarded.

2029
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 5: You didn't like the actual the inflection of it. Yeah, okay,

2030
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 5: I didn't dislike it. I just think it takes you

2031
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 5: to a certain place.

2032
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I asked Colleen if she had anything else to ask.

2033
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: She said yes. So now the floor goes to Colleen Wolf.

2034
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 3: Do you guys want to get a sandwich after this?

2035
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, I would love to. Mark.

2036
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 3: Mark has something he has to do.

2037
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: We'll see.

2038
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I already know Mark's answer.

2039
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: This sounds like if Colleen has never asked this in show. Hey,

2040
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 1: do you want to get a sandwich afterwards?

2041
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 3: I'm starving? Yeah, I'm so hungry.

2042
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: Dame, think about Colleen. This could be an important conversation.

2043
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 5: It's not a'm a I'm considering it right now.

2044
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Fuck hit it. That seems like it's going in the

2045
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: right direction. We're up to you.

2046
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm considering how do I say it vicissitudes.

2047
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 4: Is that not Rightsitude wanitudesitudes he the call