WEBVTT - Michael Vick Part 1 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.880 Steve Smith Senior and I'm Little John, and this is 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.319 cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. They's 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.880 getting down to do it. Good do it. We asked 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.120 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.200 ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard am 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:34.680 about it, then we're about to let you know. It's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:49.080 all okay, alright, Me and my wife foolishly decided we're 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:53.519 gonna play tennis over the weekend in the just it 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.320 was hot. It's been sticky. I mean we're in North Carolina. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.280 We're in Charlotte for those of y'all who don't know, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.440 So it gets humidity. It is painstaking that. I mean 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.959 it's been it's been hot in North Carolina. Um, I 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.759 mean it's been ninety degrees in October November. Right, We've 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.520 we've had a thanksgiven where it's been like eighty four degrees, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.640 which is and then if it was like seven with 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.640 all the commidity. Yeah, so it's it's different. So we 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.280 decided we're gonna play tennis, right, and so where we 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.679 play tennis, they also have some Uh, it's a pool 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.639 right there. So there was a guy he's about sixty 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.600 years old, and again he was by the pool, so 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.800 he had he was walking from the pool pastor tennis 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.559 courts to his car to go in to to leave, 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.520 and he had on he didn't have on a shirt. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.600 So he was again sons out, guns out. But he 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.720 was six years old, so he had it. He had 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.480 it for sixty year old man or or maybe could 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.280 have been older. He was pretty fit and he wanted everybody. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.880 He everybody to know, Look, I'm old, but I'm still 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.240 handling the business. So I look over and one just 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.360 you know, I was always taught respect your elder, so 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.119 I look over when I said, hey, sun's eve guns out? 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.200 He said yeah. I said hey, but um, you got 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:21.320 those guns registered. He looked at me and said, nah, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.200 I ain't shot these in a while. Bro. He had 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.120 his clip bloated, waiting for you to ask. That's why 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.760 he didn't ever start on because he was waiting for someone. Yeah, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.120 I ain't shot these. I know what he says. I 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:40.040 haven't disstarted these and years. And what I loved about 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.079 that is one when I was acknowledging, Hey, I see 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.440 you working old. I see you, I see you working 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:50.280 young man. It was really cool because when I get 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.880 sixty or seven years old, man, I still kind of 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.280 want a four pack at least right to the other. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.400 Two is still in the cooler, still in the cooler, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.000 right because obviously when you're sixty and seven, you ain't 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.120 working out like you used to. But just just to 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.960 have a a two pack, man, that's progress. Because there's 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.600 a lot of thirty year old so walking around with 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.680 kegs they ain't got No did he run up on 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.880 you like he wanted to try or he just ran 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.720 He wasn't like that, No, he was. He was strolling 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.919 by his flip flops in the shorts and and his shirt, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.760 and I was fully dressed and ninety degree weather playing tennis, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.400 and people like, really, still you play tennis? Actually I'm 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.320 a three five and ten. That means there's five oh 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.480 I mean four or five? Four oh three? Five three 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.840 oh to five two oh two old? Is you're terrible? 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.680 Um three five is? You could play a little bit, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.200 run around. I love the exercise. I'm actually a huge 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:52.920 tennis junkie. Love love tennis. Grew up watching Andrea Agassi 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.280 and um, you know on here on cut Tool. We 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.440 also eventually have some tennis guys to brothers talking tennis. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.120 That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know obviously Arthur 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.960 ashe but there's a lot of different guys here in 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.560 North Carolina. And um Andy Murray um really good friends. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.840 He grew up in Greensboro, John Isner Um. Obviously you 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.000 got the Serenas that's down the street from the house 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.839 in l A girl. I remember, I had the unique 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.280 opportunity to visit um James Blake when he was playing. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.560 His mom actually well was his trainer and and really 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.360 kind of kept him and focused. I was pretty good. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.920 So I love tennis and intense dude. That's that's crazy, man, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:39.279 intense dude like you savage on the field swinging tennis club. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.120 Why do you saying like that. No, I'm saying I'm 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.080 not judging you. I'm not I'm not judging at all. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.359 I'm just saying I find it interesting that you know, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.920 if you canell you to keep backpelling, you're gonna hit 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.120 the water cool over there. That's cool. I play a 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.080 little DV in my life, but I'm just saying, I 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.039 do you seriously, I find it interesting that that you 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.400 play tennis. And it's cool because I think the one 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.800 I mean, you are a football player, you tense do 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:09.200 in tennis is such a quote unquote country club sport that, um, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.279 I really find it interesting and honestly find it cool 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.520 even for me like my daughter who six your niece Mia, Um, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.240 she loves swimming and she loves playing golf, two things 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.000 that I never grew up around where I'm from. So honestly, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.240 what I'm saying is I find it cool that you 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.960 can invest yourself in the sport that otherwise, you know, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.480 places that we're from, you don't typically play. So honestly, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.800 I find it really cool that you know, in your 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.080 later stages in life, you can find something like that 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.000 that really keeps you fit, keeps you focused, and keeps 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.680 you really you know, keeps you around some sort of competitiveness. Man, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.440 let me tell you, in tennis, you want to get ran, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.120 play some old folks. They give you the business. Give 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:55.080 you the business because in tennis, tennis is a mind game, right, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.200 and it's ball placement, and a lot of the older 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.800 people don't have that movement like they used to, but 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.040 they but they're playing from a mental stampard and so 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.120 they so I played the older guy and got my 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.800 butt woolf and he ran me, ran me off the 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:18.320 court because ball placement. I'm over there, I'm running from 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.560 side to side, baseline, the baseline. That dude was out 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.480 out there running for no reason. He was out there 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:30.360 like it just crossed court throwing darts. But I love 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.760 tennis because it's it's a great It is a great 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:41.040 sport in which requires mental fortitude, strategy. But you could 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.680 also hit the snot out of the ball and then 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:49.160 they can return it same velocity even more, or they 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.960 can set you up. So it's a lot of mental 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.120 aspect of it. It's a lot of I was, but 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.680 that old man taught me something. I'll running. I'll run 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.280 them into the ground right now. But you know that 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.560 ain't gonna happen. But I really love tennis, and so 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.760 me and my wife play tennis together. My boys. I 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:12.040 am Doocey Um. We called Doocy Goosey Steve Smith Jr. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.360 I have brainwashed him Um into being a tennis player. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.120 He's gonna be t He's gonna become a tennis player, 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.160 and then I will be able to live in Italy 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.000 um for a year or two because he'll be he'll 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.360 be training out there, and so we're gonna be recording 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.200 from Italy. I don't don't really care record from, but 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.840 I'm getting Italy at some point. Uh to just be 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.680 there for a year and let him train um in 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.040 Italy and then I can blow up by eating a 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.679 whole bunch of pizza. There you go, there, So gee, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.360 let's cut to it. And who's our guest for today? 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.960 Because I don't know who it is. We we talked 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.520 about some guys and then now I got like a 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.600 surprise guest that you're supposed to be telling me, and 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.200 so now I'm just going off to I am literally, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.080 I have no questions in front of me because you 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.880 guys and tell me. So. If this show seems a 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.920 little bit radic today, that's only because they surprised me 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.920 with the guest and I don't know who it is, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.200 but I think it's gonna be an awesome guest. Alright, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.280 coming up, we got a very special surprise guest, an icon, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.480 a legend, Michael Vick. He went to Virginia Tech University. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.560 He's a four time pro bowler. He was the NFL 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.920 Comeback Player of the Year in and he's the NFL's 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.200 all time leader in rushing yards by a quarterback over 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:41.280 six thousand yards. Michael Vick, thanks for coming onto the 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.839 cut to a podcast. Brother, Thanks for having me. Man, 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.120 It's just a pleasure to be on pleasure at this 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.120 segment we're about to go into. It's called get Iced 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.920 Up with Smitty is basically our ice breakers, So be 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.600 prepared for anything. Smithy. I'll let you take it. Favorite 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:07.679 childhood cereal Captain Crunch Crunch. It was flavorful, especially when 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.480 they started throwing the flavors up in there and got 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.040 that years when on that's a hood favorite right there, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.160 that's a favorite right there. Berries and they hit the 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:22.640 blueberries and the red berries came. It was popular. The 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:27.240 summer activity you love to do, swimming at the Boys 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.360 and Girls Club. But that was my thing, you know 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.160 what I mean. That was my thing that swim. Swims, swim, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.640 and it made me strong, It made me better, um, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.640 you know, as a as a as a football player, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.040 and you know, growing up where I grew up, because 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.240 I was stronger than everybody, nobody liked to swim with 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.840 me and it was a passing growing up. So swimming 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.680 at the Boys and Girls Club now I know you 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.000 had a ton of fast twitch. However, now you retired, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.920 So how you ain't your shoes? You got shoelaces or 0:09:55.040 --> 0:10:00.720 veil crow? I got shoelaces. Can't leave you try to 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.440 dispect the icon. I can't get caught in the bell crow. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.040 If you ask me this ten years from now, then 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:18.760 you might get a different answer. We can. Yeah, let 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:25.640 me trap up real quick. Well, we we really appreciate 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.280 you coming up on that. And the purpose, uh, of 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.800 the of our podcast really is to get the insight 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:40.600 um and understand the the man, the woman as well 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.079 inside the jersey. We want you to start off before 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.920 we really get into really who Michael Vick is. Just 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.400 set the stage, like where'd you grow up? How did 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.240 you grow up? All right? And and and and really 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:01.360 how and where you grew up? How did at shape 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.040 your life? Good and bad and and and so paint 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.440 that picture for us. We all know you know the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.480 good and the bad. Yeah, but it but it all 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.679 started from somewhere and where where is that place? It 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.920 started in Newport News, Virginia, Um, a place I can 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.080 sit at home for eighteen years until I left Virginia tech. Um. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.319 You know, I moved around to a couple of different 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:29.440 neighborhoods from the age of uh, you know, six until 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.319 I was about ten years old, so I had, uh 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.960 always had different crews of friends, which which was cool, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.920 and until I moved into my last neighborhood, British Circle 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.920 where I grew up, where I grew up, you know, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.920 from the age of ten to like eighteen, and met 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.120 all my friends who uh you know, I got to 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.720 know and still friends with guys to this day, but 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.160 had dreams with and you know, thought about what life 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.120 would be like with, you know, as a as a 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.079 young man growing into an older man. You know, we 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.680 went through everything together. You know, we went through you know, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.840 the preteen years and the teen years and you know 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.000 to playing football and li and girls and you know, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.880 everybody had their own set of goals and dreams, and 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.040 you know, it was so you know, it was a 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.120 tough situation to grow up in because you know, you 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.840 don't know, you don't have a lot, you know, until 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.360 you go around somebody who has a lot. And one 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.320 of my cousins, his mom and dad was in the 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.120 household and they both had good jobs. And you know, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.320 I've seen the different side of life, and I'm like, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.640 you know, I want that life. You know, even though 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.600 I don't have what we have. You know, if I 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.720 can experience that and learn from that experience, you know, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.160 it helps shape and mold me to you know, me 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.760 thinking like that I want more than what we have. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.240 And uh, you know, I started playing you know, football, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.320 like the age of seven, and it was like the 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.600 coolest game ever. You know. Didn't start out as a quarterback, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.800 you know, I was running back at first. That's a 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.560 different story. But you know, the dreams started right there, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.240 and I was like, man, they get paid for this. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.080 You know, I'm pretty good at this. You know, I 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.360 think this is something that I want to do. And 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.000 you know, fast forward to you know, from the age 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.880 of ten to eighteen, it was like, man, you gotta 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.160 do so much in order to get a scholarship to 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.840 go to you know, college, and to to play in 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.920 the National Football League. So I looked at the journey 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.440 that I had to travel and I was like, man, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.040 it's tough. But as a ten year old kid, I 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.160 was like, I'm prepared for that journey. So, you know, 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.840 growing up in that environment prepared me for that journey. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.880 I think my friends and the guys I grew up with, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.600 the guys that really grew up with, um, they helped 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.719 me with that journey. And then you know, it was 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.040 high school, college and then but when you say guys 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.280 I really grew up with, I say that, Steve, because 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.640 I really feel like, um, you know, my my two 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.520 best best friends, my two besties, guy named Jamal Wilson 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.400 and Kevin Stanley was the guys that when I we 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.720 touched eight team, we all when I separate ways. They 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.000 both went in the military and I went on to college. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.320 And then it was you guys that I met, you know, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.240 over time. And you know, Kevin wasn't playing football and 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.040 Jamaala wassn't playing football. I got closer with my teammates. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.760 Some of those guys good dude, some of them was 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.920 bad dudes. But they all they became my friends and 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.520 I hung out with him and you know he kind 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.760 of made decisions and choices together, you know, good and bad, 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.760 and uh, you know, it was what it was. But 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.600 those two guys that I just named were, you know, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.080 my guys, and to this day, like they still like 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.480 my beasties. The ones that's gonna tell me like, no, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.720 you're making a bone head decision or you know you 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.080 shouldn't do that, and they're not afraid to tell me no, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.880 you know, and that that that's been the biggest teal 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.000 to the sign up. Why you know, those guys that 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.800 they always been my bestties many always will being, you know. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.960 So you know, I learned my lesson with friends along 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.920 the way. You know, how to determine if your friend 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.720 is really a friend. You know, Mike, I played against you, Um, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.560 long time, good and bad, and we're out. We were 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.200 in the same draft class and um, and you know 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.160 we're both doing analysts work now. Um, you're doing a 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.680 fantastic job on Fox, you know, and I'm I'm I'm 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:20.000 trying to keep up with you on NFL network. Appreciate it. Now, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.960 I'm gonna take this time to address something the elephant 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:28.840 in the room, because I think it's one um journalistic 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:33.200 integrity that I'm learning of talking about it, but just 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.320 steer me in the direction if I say something, that's 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:43.480 if I misspeak. But basically, um, around two thousand and six, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.280 you know, the FBI and some of that stuff is 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:51.000 starting investigation about some of the outside activity that was 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.880 going on outside of uh, your employment with Atlanta Falcons, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:00.280 and you were um basically convicted or or or I 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:05.320 believe plead got a plea deal with them on dog 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:10.080 fighting and all of that stuff. And so August two 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.040 thousand seventh you were sentenced and had to serve an 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.840 eighteen months prison term and also had to do two 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.720 months of house arrest. You also had to pay back 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.520 money to the Lanta Falcons. I believe a whole bunch 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.480 of money. Um, none of us got under our under 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:34.120 our mattresses. But you also, Mike, Mike Vick is the 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:40.120 original highlight reel. Um, myself and many other people feared 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.160 when you had the ball in your hands. When we're 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.480 standing on the other sideline, I'm like, man, if that 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.160 they let this dude get loose again, we in Trump. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.320 I want to ask you when you went to prison 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.640 then Michael Dwane Vick walk in that prison or was 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:03.320 it Michael Vick the highlight real? Oh man, that's an 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:08.960 amazing question, because Michael victor highlight Reel, walked into that 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.760 and into that prison and walked in there and feeling like, damn, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.560 this shouldn't this shouldn't be me. I had too much 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.400 money for this. I shouldn't have you know, I shouldn't 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.800 be in this situation. You know, at first a couple 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.560 of hours, I was in there. Every time they came 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.400 to check on me to make sure that I was good, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.359 and I wasn't, and they committed suicide that you know, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.280 I thought somebody was coming and locked that door to 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.760 let me out, you know, and I'm like because I 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.280 felt like I didn't deserve to be there. And then 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.639 over time, you know, as the nights went on and 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.160 the days when was longer, and the days hurt, they hurt. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.800 You know, you're thinking about, you know, the outside world. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.600 You think about family and watching football and watching you guys, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.400 you know, you know, like men of integrity out there 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.520 doing what they're supposed to be doing, because that's what 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.239 everybody dreamt of doing their entire lives, unless they just 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.760 fell into it. You know, very very blessed to be 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.399 out there on the field in that situation. I'm you know, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.960 one of the you know, Markey players of the league, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.800 and I'm sitting in the prison c and I'm like, damn, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.800 this shouldn't beat me. But that's time went on, I 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.520 realized like, yeah, this is what's gonna It was supposed 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.639 to be me. It needed to be me because I 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.520 started thinking about, you know, all the people I did, hurt, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.800 all the animals I hurt, all of you know, things 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.240 that I did, and the decisions I made that could 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.240 have been better, and I'm like, you didn't make the 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.119 all the right decisions. You know, nobody's perfect, but at 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.359 the same time, you probably made more bad decisions than 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.560 you did good and that's the reason you were in 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.720 this place right now. So you know, I looked at that, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.919 you know, understood it. You know I accepted it, and 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.439 I was like, you know, when I leave out of here, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.000 I'm gonna come out of here a different person. I'm 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.920 gonna come out of here man of integrity. I'm gonna 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.240 respect my family and respect you know, the game. I'm 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.960 respect the people who try to help me in every 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.240 fastor that my life and one of the best for me, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.080 and I'm not going to ignore that. I'm gonna grow up. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.960 I'm not gonna be so reserved and I'm not gonna 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.840 be so you know, introvertive. I'm gonna try to open up. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.520 You know, I all those things is on my mind, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.960 and I felt like, you know, I did it, but 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.520 I needed that time to get to that point in 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.560 my life. So the highlight, Michael Vick, the highlight real 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.200 walk in prisonent Michael the Man came out and I'm 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:23.119 I'm very appreciative of that in my life. What so, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:29.360 what did you discover about about about yourself really being 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:35.840 put in that position twenty three hours a day. Yeah, 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.000 I feel like, you know, just losing the control, you know, 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.119 it was probably the biggest thing. And like I have 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.119 no patrol of you know, when I'm gonna eat. I 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:44.760 having no patrol of when I got to go to 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.720 sleep or you know, I'm pretty much on somebody else's time, 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.399 you know, um but a lot of idle time. And 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.960 I'm like, damn, like, you know, i gotta find a 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.719 way to to to make this, you know somewhat, you know, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.119 a success story, Like man, I got it in me. 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.280 I know I could do it, Like I know the 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.080 decisions that was made that was wrong. Damn, I should 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.960 have just did it right. You know. All I started 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.439 thinking about was the second chance, another opportunity. If I 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.800 get a chance to do it all again, and I'm 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.720 gonna do it this way, and i know I'm not 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.520 gonna be perfect, but at least I know I'm not 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.160 gonna be around those same people, you know, the same influences. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.960 You know, I'm growing up a little bit, and I 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.320 wanted to show people more than anything that when I 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.080 got out, I was more mature. You know. It started 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.359 with Roger Goodell than he was the last person I 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.119 was looking to his face and lie to, you know, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.240 about being involved. So I was able to start with him, 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.560 to break the ice, tell the truth. I was wrong. 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.400 He said, look, I'm not here to talk about the past, 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.720 me to talk about the future. And right then and 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.320 then when I heard that, I was just like, Okay, 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.040 that's it. That's it. It's it's all about the struture. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.840 And Roger Gidell told me that, and our initial conversation 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.639 and that changed my life. That made me look at 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.080 the world different. It made me know that the that 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.680 I had come true. Like all the other visions I had, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:10.600 what vision, I don't know, I got a lot of 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.800 like a lot of stuff in my mind. I was, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.400 you know, we spent a lot of we we spent 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.600 a lot of time like all my all the staff, 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.280 all the people is working with us, We spent a 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.280 lot of time just kind of looking at all this 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:30.560 stuff about about you. And I watched a lot of 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.280 things myself, and and the one thing I kept focusing 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:34.879 on it was like, you know, I don't want this 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.000 to you, to come on here and to rehab something 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.000 um that's happened. However, I don't want people to feel 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.600 like that we're glancing over or were or we're giving 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:50.480 you try. Yeah, it's all under control, baby, Yeah. But 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.560 but also, like I also put myself in your position, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.159 is I've done some stupid stuff in my life. And 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.560 you know when you do some stupid stuff, you sitting 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.720 there right, and I say stupid because if I'm being 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:09.000 one hunter many like playing against you. I know the 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.600 story is about you. I know. I know we're gonna 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.880 get into some stories. I know, but I'm saying I'm 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.840 saying all all this stuff about you, like I watched 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.359 you and when that all went down, you know, being 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.520 so close here in Charlotte, in Charlotte, trying to mimic 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:32.320 the growth of Atlanta, like we we got the information 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.520 like we were it was like it was happening here, 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.800 and bro like sitting here and just putting myself in 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.760 that position, I'm going all the stupid stuff I've done 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.240 in my life. You know how many times I've gotten 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.679 in trouble and then you wake up and you you 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.920