1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. As interest rates continue 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: to rise and inflation is an all time high, the 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: stock market continues to be volatile, many Americans are wondering 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: whether they should be saving or investing right now, and 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: if so, how much can they afford. Many of my 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: family members and friends want to know how they can 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: protect their own finances and investments as we face this 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: challenging economic period, and I want to talk with someone 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: who has been advising people on their personal finances and 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: investments for over twenty five years. So I'm really pleased 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: to welcome back my guest, Charles Thornban, founder and CEO 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: of Legacy Precious Medals. Charles, welcome and thank you for 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: joining me again on news World. Oh it's absolutely my 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: pleasure as always, Thank you, Charles. Why don't we start 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: by talking a bit about the state of the economy 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: as it stands right now in November twenty twenty two. 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Is you know we're seeing a lot of large companies 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: lay people off. What's your reaction to all that great question? 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, we look at probably the Big three, 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, Meta being one. When you come out and 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: say that you need to lay off eleven thousand workers. 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: That's a pretty big indication of how bad things are 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: for one of the larger companies that there is. I 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: know that the costs of running the company have become 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: substantially more than they expected. I believe we were looking 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: at costs and expenses jumping to about nineteen percent year 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: over year, which for them really is employees too. Meta 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: is not a company that needs to worry about gas 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: prices as much, but this is the cost of employees. 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: So you know, twenty two point one million dollars in 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the third quarter loan with the expenses for Meta. You 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: can't have those kind of cost while having sales decrease. 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I think you'll see that those numbers never work for 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: a company operating expenses dropping to forty six percent from 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: where they were and then you have increased labor costs. 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: It never works out. That's bad business. And this is 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: why you have Zuckerberg coming out and saying thirteen percent 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: of the staff has to go well. At the same 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: time the Meta selling problems, Elon Musk was causing turmoil 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: at Twitter in ways that are kind of amazing. Didn't 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: you talk to us a little bit about the degree 42 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: to which Twitter also is going through a period of layoffs. Absolutely, 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: And this one's interesting. You typically you don't see someone 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: stepping into buy a company when they know that there 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: is a liquidity problem. You have him stepping out forty 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: four billion dollars. It's not pocket change. I don't care 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: who you are, but to agree to do that and 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: then immediately fire everybody, Fire the chief executives, fire all 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: the top manager, layoff seventy five hundred employees, it's a 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: really good indication of what again we were talking about 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: that employee valuation. Having to raise the amount that you're 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: willing to pay somebody creates such a deficit that you 53 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: actually begin to bankrupt the company to some degree. So 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: you look at that and then you say, okay, seventy 55 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: five hundred employees gone, and then an additional four thousand 56 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: to fifty five hundred more contract employees. And that's a 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: whole separate field, is the contract employees. Elon Musk does 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: no valuations. We know that. So him saying that this 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: is what has to happen, this is more of a 60 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: way of saying, here's what you can expect in other 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: companies to come. The economy is not in the best 62 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: of shape. No matter what anyone says, layoffs are the 63 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: biggest sign of that. Well, the other underlying factor in 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: addition to the layoffs is that inflations continuing, which will 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: continue the pressure. I was really surprised that the energy 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: index rose seventeen point six percent, but the amazing one 67 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: to me was fuel oil which jumped sixty eight point 68 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: five percent, and then electricity fourteen point percent. I mean, 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: how do you see the inflation rate and what the 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve is doing to try to bring it under control, 71 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and how do you read all that fuel becomes interesting 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: to me. We can't forget what happened just two years 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: ago when you shut down the pipeline and you restrict 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the flow of America that was at one point energy independent, 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: and create what we have now. We have officials basically 76 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: banking foreign countries to give us more oil at a 77 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: good price. To me, that's shameful. It doesn't need to 78 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: be there. So when you see that index rising to 79 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: that degree sixty eight percent, part of that is our 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: own doing. But that's beside the fact. Right What we 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: have to do now is figure out how to fix it, 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: because in this day and age, everything travels to get 83 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: to its destination. All the products you buy, they're being 84 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: shipped someplace. So when you start dealing with fuel, this 85 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: has a detriment to the price because the transportation costs 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: increase the product cost. So you're fighting an unneeded increase 87 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: in price on top of inflation as well. So it's 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: really a compounding issue. So given all of that, it 89 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: seems to me we're going to see a lot more 90 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: market volatility. I would agree. I noticed that Morgan Stanley's 91 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: chief US equity strategist Mike Wilson suggested that the bear 92 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: market is not over and that the SNP five could 93 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: hit a new low early next year. He said, quoting him, 94 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: we remain highly convicted that the twenty twenty three bottom 95 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: up consensus learnings are materially too high, and a note 96 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: thirty cent to clients on Monday. Now, as you know, 97 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: people can get sucked into a bearer market, and you 98 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: can have an occasional brief uptick, but the long term 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: pattern of the market is down. Do you have a 100 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: sense that that's part of what we're in the middle of. Absolutely, 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: we look at these numbers that were released and we're 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: hearing cheers in the market. Oh, it's not gone up 103 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: as high as we thought. PPI didn't go up as 104 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: high as we thought. The CPI is not as high 105 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: as we thought. To me, one month doesn't determine anything. 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: The reality is, if you look at some of the 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: worst inflationary periods in the United States history. Classic example 108 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: will take June of nineteen seventy three, the inflationary it 109 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: was six percent and then it dropped down to five 110 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: point seven three percent, and they made a mistake of 111 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: saying we've got it fixed. Well, in the next three months, 112 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: it's shot up to over seven percent inflation, and it 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: continued to move forward from there into that high inflationary 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: periods of the late seventies twelve percent. And this is 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: what we're seeing. We're seeing a market that wants to 116 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: be given easy money, and we've had easy money for 117 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: a very long period of time, and I think our 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: economy and our market has got addicted to it. So 119 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: they want to keep that coming. So they're going to say, oh, look, 120 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: we're good now. We had a small pullback. One month 121 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: does not make a fix, and I'm hoping that the 122 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Fed understands that and doesn't fall victim to the pressures 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: of the market, because if it does, we're in for 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a much bigger shock in the next few months, so 125 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the course needs to be stayed. We know that they'll 126 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: be a raise in December, and it's probably going to 127 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: be a half a basis point, but that's already even known. 128 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: No one raises high in the last month of the 129 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: year just doesn't happen, So pulling back from the three 130 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: quarters for percent down to the half so there's no 131 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: real victory there. But I think the thing that we 132 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: need to really be careful for is the assumption that 133 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: things are fine. 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Sort 151 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: of the opposite of gold and sober has been cryptocurrency, 152 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: which at times has taken off and looked like it 153 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: was a great investment. But when FTX, which was valued 154 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: at thirty two billion dollars in January, declared bankruptcy, what 155 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: happened to all that money? I mean, they go from 156 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: thirty two billion dollars to now being bankrupt and there 157 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: were people out there counting on the thirty two billion, 158 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: including I think some pension funds which had actually invested 159 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 1: in this stuff. Does it just kind of like disappear 160 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: in this case, Yes, it's gone. Cryptocurrency, much like the 161 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: stock market, it's often called a zero sum game, right 162 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: one wins, one loses. In this scenario, everyone's lost because 163 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: the value was never there. You have, unfortunately, what is 164 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: already I would say a risky asset, not that people 165 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: shouldn't have invested in it somewhat as long as their 166 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: portfolio was laid out and planned right, But you have 167 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: an asset that, for the longest time has no real 168 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: regulation to it, you have no oversight in it. I mean, 169 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: that's how it originally came out. It was a private 170 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: asset that people couldn't trace. So they dealt with those 171 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: issues and they've got up more mainstream. But the big 172 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: issue really comes in here is when you had like 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: the ftx is get involved and they started managing it 174 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: like a mutual fund to some degree, and they were leveraged. 175 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: Leverage is not something to play with. Professionals should only 176 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: be doing that. And I think you know, unfortunately in 177 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: the realm of cryptocurrencies, there's not many true financial wizards 178 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: involved that can go out and say, let's margin, let's 179 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: borrow against, let's leverage this account to try to generate 180 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: some additional income. And this is where you run into 181 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: those troubles because that has to be done in a 182 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: way where there's protection to the bottom line, and we 183 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen that. And this isn't the first issue with cryptocurrencies. 184 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, we've even had issues where it was stolen 185 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: mount dogs and things like that. So when you look 186 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: at it, you know that you're dealing in a relatively 187 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: new asset, right, a new vehicle, investment vehicle. You have 188 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: to go with caution. You have to look at it 189 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: with caution. And because it was a high flying asset 190 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: for a while, people forgot that, and this leads us 191 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: to these troubles. I mean, when it comes to finances, 192 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: you've got to have a plan, and it's good to 193 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: be a little conservative. It's good to have that protection there. 194 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Cryptocurrency is one zone. Another thing which I frankly don't 195 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: fully understand. It's called a meme, a meme stock. What 196 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: is a meme stock? Yeah, meme Stock's interesting how this 197 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: generation has created new terms for investment vehicles. Really, basically, 198 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: what a memestock came down to was a group of 199 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: people would rush in talk about this stock, right, and 200 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: they would create these little memes, these little pictures, and 201 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: they'd get on their Twitters and all of their little 202 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: social platforms and say this is a great bed, everyone 203 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: buy in. In the old days, we would call that manipulation. 204 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: You'd have people step in take a position and then 205 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: convince a bunch of other people that they should buy 206 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: it too, And it works well. Now because we have 207 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: these social media platforms, we have so called experts, people 208 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: who claim to be experts on something, convincing the people 209 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: who are inexperienced or young to follow them, and they 210 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: push all this money in and then they're told, hold on, 211 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: this is going to be a great and it goes 212 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: up and then it suddenly comes down, and I think 213 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, you're going to see 214 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: quite a few of these experts revealed to have actually liquidated. 215 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: They're meme stocks before the downturn. You know, classic scenario 216 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: that you see whenever there's a form of manipulation, you know, 217 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: when you're looking at meme stocks, that's kind of what 218 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about. These are stocks just like any other stock, 219 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: but they somehow, given the power of the social media 220 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: to knit people together, they suddenly become sort of a 221 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: bandwagon effect, and then they get a price that's psychological 222 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: rather than financial correct or your meme stocks, none of 223 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: them were actually dealt in anything that really was even 224 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: close to a financial evaluation. You know that there's class examples, 225 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: the game stocks, the AMC. All of those companies were 226 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: not doing well financially, and some of them were so 227 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: much so that they probably could have gone under if 228 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't for this social media effect where they had 229 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: people clamber in and push so that in the world 230 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: of stocks, you have certain players who will take a 231 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: short position, okay, And what they did was they made 232 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: these financial people remove their short positions. Creates a short 233 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: squeeze and it forces the price up. And that's what 234 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of. So let me run you 235 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: through a couple of easing just get your comments. One 236 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: was game Stop, which suddenly jumped fifteen hundred percent in 237 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: share price in two weeks and reached a high four 238 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three dollars. And apparently the Reddit community 239 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: was suddenly coordinated this effort, but in fact that wasn't 240 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: the real value of game Stop. It wasn't even close. 241 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: And what that really was like, we said that Reddit 242 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: community stepped in and said, here's a stock that doesn't 243 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: have much volume, right, it's something that we can control 244 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: to some decree if we get enough people to put 245 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: money in. And because the price was so low, you 246 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of that Reddit community was your crypto crowd, right, 247 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: and they had this money they had made on their 248 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: bitcoin and their ethereum, and they felt like they were 249 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: millionaires and they knew what they were doing, so they 250 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: followed these REDDA communities and they dumped a lot of 251 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: money in a very short period of time, and it 252 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: was coordinated so that you constantly had buys on the 253 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: market forcing the price up. So really what they did, 254 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: when you look at it, is they artificially inflated the 255 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: price so they felt like they made money. And the 256 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: big problem there came when it was time to collect 257 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: your profit because there was no market there to sell 258 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: it to. Well, similarly, I go to AMC theaters, So 259 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by what's happened with the movie chain and 260 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: its price, which was probably based pretty closely unreality, was 261 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: about two dollars per share, and then it's been driven 262 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: up to sixty two dollars per share. In twenty twenty one, 263 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the CEO Adam Aaron actually created an AMC meme stock, 264 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: which you gave out to the stockholders, and literally it's 265 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: been estimated that the meme stock investments may have saved 266 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: AMC from going bankrupt. I mean, that's all kind of 267 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: wild because it's not actually related to the underlying financial 268 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: reality of the company. Absolutely not. And that is a 269 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: great example. And here's probably an example where it wasn't 270 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: as bad for AMC. Was it based on financials? No, 271 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: So we have to remember in twenty twenty one, people 272 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: were not going to the theater. AMC was not generating income. 273 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: So to see that kind of move, it's really tremendous 274 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and that shows you the power of that society that 275 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: we're doing these types of investments. And when it's hovering 276 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: just over around the two dollars price point, people who 277 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: had made money again in cryptos and in their other 278 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: meme stocks, they were following the crowd. There was a 279 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: wave and they were riding that wave, and it was 280 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: led by several people who have a very large following 281 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: in this community. And yes, in this case, I do 282 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: believe it saved AMC from bankruptcy during that very specific 283 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: period of time. That's a tough industry, that's a lot 284 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: of real estate and things to hold to generate profits, 285 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: so theaters typically have some trouble there. But in this case, 286 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: I agree it did save that chain from going bankrupt, 287 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: but it still was not about financials. You have sort 288 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: of emotional stocks rather than financial stocks. You know, people 289 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: aren't taking a hard, cold look what's this company worth, 290 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: what's its growth prospect, what's its profit like? There instead 291 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: joining a crowd and kind of a movement of excitement, 292 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: but one which has a real potential to be a 293 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: bubble that then bursts, leaving them holding stock that's worth 294 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: dramatically less than they invested. Exactly. You take that kind 295 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: of an emotional investment and it's pure emotion because it 296 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: is not financial, but that also puts you at that risk. 297 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Right when the finances come out and when the numbers 298 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: are out and it's revealed that the company has no 299 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: real value, you lose everything in most cases. And that's 300 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: the caution that people need to be aware of while 301 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: establishing your portfolio. You want to make sure that things 302 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: you take a risk with is a minor portion so 303 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: if something does go wrong, it doesn't ruin you financially. 304 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: It may hurt, but it won't ruin you. And that's 305 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: the difference. When you're looking at your investments. You've got 306 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: to have some basis of the financials, not just the hype. 307 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: If you've been keeping up with the news lately, you 308 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: know that we're living in challenging economic times. Americans are 309 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: suffering from supply chain problems, souring grocery prices, and high inflation. 310 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: All those economic turmoil means increased volatility in the stock market, 311 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: which can impact your retirement investments. Legacy Precious Metals is 312 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: the company I use when investing in gold and gold 313 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: iras a gold ira has the same tax advantage of 314 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: a traditional ira, or giving you protection by owning physical goal, 315 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Legacy Precious Metals believes that your financial security should never 316 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: be left to chance. 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Visit 324 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: by Legacygold dot com to go from great volatility in 325 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: essentially emotional definition of value to what has been the 326 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: longest safe investment I guess and recorded human history in 327 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: an area where you're a real expert. Talk to us 328 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about diversifying some into gold and silver 329 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: as part of a positive portfolio that protects people from 330 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: some of the downside risk. It's so relevant to have 331 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: a portion in gold. It's a way of saying that 332 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: if the dollar continues its declined because of inflation, if 333 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: the government continues it's spending, I have something that's going 334 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: to counterbalance that irresponsibility of government spending and inflation in 335 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: my portfolio, because ultimately your portfolio. Most people are doing 336 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: it so that they can retire. Retirement is a big issue, 337 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: right when you agreed to no longer work and survive 338 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: off of the labor that you've spent your entire life doing. 339 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: That's a big time of risk for you because you're 340 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: now saying, I trust what I've done and I'm going 341 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: to go ahead and manage my money wisely. I've invested 342 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: all my life. I need this now to take care 343 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: of me. And this is where these riskier things, if 344 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: they're in your portfolio, they cause you trouble. But when 345 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: you have that basis in gold and silver, you have 346 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: that structure of support you can build off of that 347 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: because that's the thing that's going to maintain value through 348 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the good in the bed. When things get tough, gold 349 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: and silver are there to protect you. They increase in 350 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: value as the dollar gets weaker. And now, as a 351 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: classic example, inflation like this, it's going to affect the 352 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: stock market worse. Still. I know people don't want to 353 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: hear that. We have a down market already, we have 354 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: a bear market, but it's not done. And this is 355 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: where gold and silver step in. That prevents you from 356 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: that loss that you're going to see in those other 357 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: more markets. Give you stability and increase in value over time. 358 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Is it a high flyer, No, but that's not what 359 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: you need when you're ready to retire. You need stability 360 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: and stable growth. This is what the precious metals industry 361 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: does for you. It gives you that, and this is 362 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: why people should always have a portion there. It will 363 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: help remove the fear of what could happen to your 364 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: retirement from the stock market. As I understand it, you 365 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: can either have physical gold or you can have a 366 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: gold ira, which is basically a guarantee of your right 367 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: to acquire the physical gold if you want to. But 368 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: those are two different ways of being invested in gold 369 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: and silver. Is that accurate? That is accurate, and many 370 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: clients do both. Having the gold and silver in their hands. 371 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: It's a great comfort in that right you have instant 372 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: liquidity in your hands. And then the retirement account. It 373 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: makes sense because again this is what you're looking to 374 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: used to live for the rest of your life when 375 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: you retire. So for most people, the largest real portfolio 376 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: they have is their retirement account. They've been saving for years, 377 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: they've put it away, and by having precious metals as 378 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: part of that, you take the risk away from your 379 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: IRA account being hammered and destroyed by high inflation and 380 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: a stock market that pulls back drastically. The last time 381 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: we're really in this scenario would be in two thousand 382 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: and eight, and I remember then people who would call 383 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: us and say, I had everything in the market, I 384 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: can't even retire now. I mean, that was very troubling 385 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: to hear, and there was not a lot we could 386 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: do at that point. Once the damage has been done, 387 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: it's done. So I really want to appeal to people 388 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: to say, hey, evaluate your risk yourself and get some 389 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: safety in there. Do it before you think you need 390 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: to do it. That way, you are protected with all 391 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: of your experience, your background, and your knowledge. When you 392 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: set out to found Legacy Precious Medals, you really wanted 393 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: it to be a different kind of company. Explain to folks, 394 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: how did you see Legacy Precious Metals being different than 395 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of companies they might see advertised on TV 396 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: or they might read about Legacy. For me, the name 397 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: is in by accident. You know, my son is involved 398 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: in the company as well. We have that family business aspect, 399 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: but for us, it's also the legacy of our clients. 400 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: We handle things a little differently. I've often said, you 401 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: know that we are a customer service company that actually 402 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: deals in precious metals, because for us, it's really important 403 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: that our customers understand what they're doing, why they're doing it. 404 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: We really want to focus on the education of them 405 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: rather than trying to sell them some gold or silver. 406 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: Because when you do that, you accomplished two things. You 407 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: establish safety for your customer and you also give them 408 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: the wisdom to say, Okay, here's my precious metals platform, 409 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: but what about the rest of my platform. It gives 410 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: them an opportunity to really evaluate everything and remove the 411 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: risk from their entire portfolio, not just with the precious metals, 412 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: but the other assets they hold. So for us, this 413 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: has really been about that making sure people feel comfortable, 414 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: are taking care of, not taking advantage of, and have 415 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the information they need to make the right decisions for themselves. 416 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: So from your standpoint, you're as much an advisor as 417 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: an investor. You really want people to be able to 418 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: look at the totality of their planning for retirement and 419 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: the totality of their financial activities and then put in 420 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: context the specifics that legacy precious metals happens to engage in. 421 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it, because for us, 422 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: it's far more important for people to understand and protect themselves. 423 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: And what someone does today changes, but the knowledge they 424 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: gain will help them for as long as they live, 425 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: and that's important. And our hope is that people who 426 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: do call us and they get the information, they make 427 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the decisions that's right for them. But also importantly is 428 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: they pass on that knowledge to others, their friends, their family. 429 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: The more we have Americans who understand investing and how 430 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: to protect themselves, the stronger America will be. And to 431 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: me that's important not to weigh flags or anything, but 432 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: that is what America is about, right, the strength of 433 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: the individual, and that's what we need to see, and 434 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're always trying to focus on, helping each 435 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: and every customer and then letting them go out and 436 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: talk to others to help their friends and family. This 437 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: has been very educational in the question of the middle 438 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: of such a volatile period and so many different things 439 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: going on, and I think twenty twenty three could be 440 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: a pretty tough year for people. Charles, I really want 441 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: to thank you for joining me and helping me and 442 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: our listeners make sense of the current economic environment and 443 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: how we can save our own futures while dealing with 444 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: inflation at forty year highs. I am confident we're gonna 445 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: want to talk to you again because this economy is 446 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: going to continue to evolve, I think in some pretty 447 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: painful ways, and having an opportunity to have an expert 448 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: explain it, put it in context, and give people a 449 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: sense of what they could do is really going to increase. 450 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I think the sense of hopefulness so and I want 451 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: to let our listeners know if they want more information, 452 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: they can call Charles and his team at Legacy Precious 453 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: Medals directly at eight six six four eight four four 454 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: O four three. You can literally chat with Charles and 455 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: his team look at the totality of your own planning 456 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: and get expert advice. And they are at eight six 457 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: six four eight four four O four three, or you 458 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: can visit them online at by Legacygold dot com slash newt. 459 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: That's by Legacygold dot com slash newt to find out 460 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: more and also to get a free investment guide. And 461 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: thank you Charles for helping us better understand the economy. 462 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: My pleasure is always thank you. Thank you to my guest, 463 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Charles thorn Gren. 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