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Speaker 1: Well, hey everybody, it's me Rosie O'Donnell, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here on my podcast, Onward with Me Rosie o'donnald.

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Speaker 1: Today is August twenty fourth. I know it's not this

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Speaker 1: date when you are listening, but this is the day

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Speaker 1: that we are recording this, and it is my daughter,

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Speaker 1: Chelsea's twenty sixth birthday, which I can't even believe. I

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Speaker 1: when she was a baby up till now, and I

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Speaker 1: have to say, it really trips me out to know

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Speaker 1: my oldest boy is twenty eight and my second child,

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Speaker 1: Chelsea Bell O'Donnell, is twenty six, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: have had a difficult relationship and we have been working

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Speaker 1: on it a lot and trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I told her how much I get out of doing

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Speaker 1: these podcasts and interviews, and we discussed whether or not

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Speaker 1: she'd be willing to come on and talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: mother daughter relationships and maybe substance abuse and goals for

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Speaker 1: the future, and you know, she said she wanted to

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Speaker 1: do it. So I'm thinking about that. Let me know

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Speaker 1: if you think that's a good idea, because some of

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Speaker 1: my friends. I've said that we talked about doing this,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, don't do that, and other people are like,

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Speaker 1: definitely do that. So I don't know the fact that

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Speaker 1: she wants to do it to me is encouraging. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm going to think about it, so hit

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Speaker 1: us up with a message about whether or not you

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Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. Today, the twenty fourth, is

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Speaker 1: also the day that Donald Trump gets booked. He gets

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Speaker 1: booked today, We're going to get a mud shot from

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, which is interesting and part of me wishes

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Speaker 1: there was a purp walk and he was treated like

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Speaker 1: any other person with ninety one felonies against him. You know,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be free number one, and he wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: without a purp wook. So I don't know he gets

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Speaker 1: special treatment, as I suppose some people think he should,

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Speaker 1: as he is the former president. But boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: did he do something on this country. He certainly did,

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Speaker 1: And I hope we can all come together when this

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Speaker 1: is all finished as a nation. You know, we are

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Speaker 1: so divided now and it's sometimes scary for a while there.

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Speaker 1: You know, in my twenties, I was obsessed with cults,

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Speaker 1: anything having to do with cults. I was obsessed with.

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Speaker 1: And it started because when I was living on Long

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Speaker 1: But while I was doing that, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: from the Mooney cult, remember the Moonies, would come over

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Speaker 1: call your mother? Like, I was obsessed with getting people

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Speaker 1: it's a big day. August twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. Well,

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Speaker 1: listen on this wonderful day. We have a wonderful interview

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Speaker 1: coming up right now. And Maria Bamford, who is one

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Speaker 1: And I've been a fan of hers for a very

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Speaker 1: so thrilled to get to sit down with her. She's very,

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of pressure there, Maria Bamford. Right now, Well,

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Speaker 1: Hi Maria, how are you health?

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Speaker 1: Well, I am a fan of yours. I'm an admirer

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's well, I'm delighted. Not everybody is

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I have a ten year old daughter,

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Speaker 1: But how it manifests inside of me is constant obsessive,

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Speaker 1: I related so much to the intrusive thoughts, and it

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Speaker 2: I started around nine or ten and just would stay

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Speaker 1: sent me to a faith based healer, which I love.

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Speaker 2: A faith based therapist. They can really help people. This

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Speaker 1: Like Jesus and the Bible, for suddenly, have you ever

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Speaker 2: And so then I started getting more obsessions of like

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Speaker 2: what if I kill my family? What if I you know,

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Speaker 2: I am a sex offender and I just don't know it now,

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Speaker 2: money tortured, It was just sure fault and it's very

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Speaker 2: or it's relatively common. If you do need help, please

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Speaker 2: go on IOCDF Foundation International CD Foundation has a lot

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Speaker 2: of free resources. It's all based on taboos, So whatever

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Speaker 2: I was growing up, it was homophobia, so I was

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Speaker 2: Freda was a serial killer. Some people it's postpartum depression.

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Speaker 2: And it's very difficult to share about because it, you know,

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Speaker 2: people can misunderstand it. I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 1: Which I understood they're mandated reporters. Yeah, I understand, But

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Speaker 2: You know, which OCD is a different thing. It's a

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Speaker 2: Like I've never really understand what somebody said confidently we're

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Speaker 2: A different set of circumstances that we'll have about the

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Speaker 1: showing up, honey, you keep showing up. Now, how did

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Speaker 1: every comedian you're gonna find has a story like ours.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we're so such interesting people like you know,

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Speaker 1: It comes out September fifth. Yes, it's so uh it's

434
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: so beautifully written. It's so honest, Maria. It's so uh

435
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: introspective and brutally beautiful, and I really really related to it.

436
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: I I thought it was just so unique. You never

437
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: hear anyone, especially a comedian, talking about their life in

438
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: that kind of way, and it's so helpful, I think

439
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: to everyone when anyone who has any kind of mental

440
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: health challenges, like myself, like you is able to speak

441
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: to it and kind of free the people listening in

442
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: fear who haven't yet given voice to what's been happening

443
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: inside their brain.

444
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Speaker 2: You know, well, I do love that about comedy, about

445
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: like people talk about things that are not often talked

446
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: about or frightening or intense. And then yeah, it's something

447
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: to talk about on the way home with your friends

448
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: or your family if you've made the mistake of bringing

449
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: your family to a comedy club.

450
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Not a good choice ever, great choice now is what

451
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: is your husband?

452
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: My husband's a painter, so he works from home, just

453
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: like me, and he loves he loves comedy, which is

454
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: a great boon. And we met on the internet. We've

455
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: been together ten years, married for nine and yeah, and

456
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: we've needed all the help, all the help. About three

457
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: months in we got a therapist. I don't know what

458
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I still don't know what I'm doing, you know,

459
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't have a insight into relationships, but uh yeah,

460
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: I've also I've never had a relationship where I've gone, oh,

461
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: I this is it, this is the one, you know,

462
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: I've never related with that part. So the thing. It

463
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: really connected. Me and my husband were like, let's do this.

464
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: You know we're going neither of us. We're both messes.

465
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Speaker 1: Let's uh oh in a beautiful way though. I mean,

466
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: who most people are messes, but they don't want to

467
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: admit that.

468
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: You know.

469
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: So when you meet someone in your life that you're

470
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: connected to, that you're attracted to, that turns you on

471
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: go towards that. You know. But I think, do you

472
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: think there's any autism spectrum stuff going on with you? Maybe?

473
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's my friend Jackiecasi of Comedian shows.

474
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: It says most comics are fighting the wind of autism.

475
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Uh, but so true, I think yeah.

476
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: Because it's I do that feeling of safety, in the

477
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: control of being ample. I mean even within this that

478
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm amplified, I'm lit, I'm you know, you know, we're

479
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: in a very secure dynamic if.

480
00:27:39,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels very comforting. Stay tuned, we'll be back. Oh.

481
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: I also, so, what were you paid, Rosie O'Donnell when

482
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: you first started out as a middle do you remember?

483
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I think you know what happened to me was kind

484
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: of interesting because I was very young, and then I

485
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: got on Star circ Yeah, in nineteen eighty four and

486
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: I was like twenty two or twenty one, and I

487
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: had done maybe four years of stand up still there,

488
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: you know, that's about it's a lot of stand up.

489
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: Were you paid on the East Coast from sixty to twenty?

490
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Well, Shirley Hemphill from What's Happening, that large black woman

491
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: who was so funny on that show. She was the

492
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: headliner one weekend and I was doing the open mic

493
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: night and she happened to come into the club to

494
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: have dinner and she saw me and she said to

495
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: the owner, I want her to open for me, and

496
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay her fifty dollars a set. And I

497
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: remember thinking at sixteen, that was more money than I

498
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. And on one weekend I

499
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: made like three hundred dollars from her, And then I

500
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: got on Star Search and I kind of jumped from

501
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: an opening act to a headliner, so I kind of

502
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: missed the middling phase. Well, and that's so interesting.

503
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: The fifty dollars that she got you per show is

504
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 2: the same amount people being paid today.

505
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: Like, isn't that sick? Yeah? Like that has not changed.

506
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: Or zero in fifty years and fifty years. Yeah, so

507
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: it's really weird. And that's one thing I mentioned in

508
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: the book. I liked doing open book accounting of like

509
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: what I earn as opposed to because you know, they

510
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: don't go out of their way to tell you, oh

511
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: the the whoever's open for you.

512
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: It was making what they're making right, They ask them.

513
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: And so now I mean I try to ask everybody

514
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: and then pay them an equivalent at least twelve hundred

515
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: a week depending on what I'm earning, you know, just

516
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm earning that much money too. Sure,

517
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: but I find that especially with comedy or any job

518
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: where there is in a union where negotiating for money

519
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you've ever had to do

520
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: that as as a woman on your own.

521
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Two yes, for sure. And so many clubs, the woman

522
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: who does the billing, because it was often a woman

523
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: who kept the books, would come over to me and say,

524
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, we had sell and so here last week

525
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: and they got double what you're getting, and you know,

526
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: and I had so many women come over and tell me.

527
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: So that's what helped me kind of ask for more.

528
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: And then I got a manager through Shirley hampel By

529
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: the way. It was her manager and she helped me

530
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: and he signed me, and then I had somebody to

531
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: negotiate for me, which was so much easier because you know,

532
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: when you're young and you want to get on stage,

533
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: you would pay them, right of course. Yes, it's still

534
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: the same people, do you know.

535
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's the same where people are delighted

536
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: and especially if they like your work, they're like.

537
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: It's an honor to open for this person.

538
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, but it's it is fair.

539
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: It feels bad, it feels good, and it's a.

540
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Reflection of what goes on in our society now where

541
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: there's these massive you know, people doing stadiums, you know,

542
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: and then is their openers getting one hundred and fifty

543
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: bucks you know, like right right, it's yeah, it's just interesting.

544
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wrong and and and when it feels wrong

545
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: to you, you need to fix it. And that's what

546
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: you did. Yeah, and that's pretty amazing. A lot of people,

547
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, don't even bother to think of the plight,

548
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: so to speak, of the up and coming people. But

549
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: I think, uh, for you and for me as well,

550
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm speaking at a turn we can remember so

551
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: vividly what it was like to get up there the

552
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: first time, what it was like to actually make money

553
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: during the you know, the the goal of being an

554
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: artist to be able to pay, be paid to try

555
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: to learn, you know, and you.

556
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Might not have to have a second job while doing comedy,

557
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: or second or third job while doing comedy.

558
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, I.

559
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Worked as a secretary for the first ten years of

560
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: doing comedy and so I which was great. I loved

561
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: I loved administrative assistance. It was good times. But yeah,

562
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: just I mean, it's the thing I think everyone's dealing

563
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: with with the gig economy of like having to negotiate

564
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: on your own behalf and right and even now, like

565
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: I need to do that, like by manager, I have

566
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: a manager, I have an agent. But I'm sure you

567
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: get this all the time in La, like.

568
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: We love you. Could you come and do this thing

569
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: for no money? For nothing?

570
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: Yes?

571
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I yes, Wow, I kind of can't, I know, and

572
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: you feel so bad, but you go no. You know,

573
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: It's funny. My brother is my manager of all my money,

574
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: and he's very good at it. But whenever I get

575
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: any offer, they send it to him as well. Oh nice,

576
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: And before I even have a chance to read you know,

577
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: he'll write back bullshit money no to the agent, you know,

578
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: with them copied on it. And it's unless he's like,

579
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: unless they're gonna pay you, there's no reason for you

580
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: to get involved. Why are you doing it? I'm like,

581
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I you don't understand, Tim, You know, sometimes it's an honor,

582
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's but on the whole, I believe we should

583
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: all be paid for when we're doing our job that

584
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: we learned through years of doing it for nothing.

585
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's one thing. If it's if I want

586
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: to do it, if it's going to be super fun,

587
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

588
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: I love open mics. I will do an open mic

589
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: any night of the week. I enjoy it.

590
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Last time I went to the open mic in my neighborhood,

591
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: I saw an older black man do a rhyming act

592
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: that was not only misogynist, but body positive. That's the

593
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: kind of that's the kind of beauty you're going to see.

594
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: But if somebody wants me to do a benefit, I benefits.

595
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: What they turn out to be.

596
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: They're far too long because they're going to book everybody,

597
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: and then it ends up being a hostage situation where

598
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: you're suffering on behalf of Parkinson's through.

599
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: A comedy show. Let's stop stop madness. I understand, I

600
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: so get it. Honey. Let me ask you about this book.

601
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Did you go to them and say, I got a

602
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: lot of things I want to write down. Did they

603
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: come to you and say, will you write a book

604
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: for us?

605
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: Mayrie offered me one hundred and fifty thousand dollars book deal,

606
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: and I said, well, I like money. And then after

607
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: getting the initial money, which is about forty seven thousand dollars,

608
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: then I read the contract and that what happens with

609
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: the book deal don't know is you get a chuck

610
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: of change to start it. Then three years later when

611
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 2: and it's not when you think the book is done,

612
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: it's when they think the book is done. You get

613
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: an under fifty thousand dollars. If they don't think the

614
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: book is done or they don't like the book that

615
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: you've written, you have to pay that money back, the

616
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 2: initial money that you've received back, which in effect, you've

617
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: paid fifty thousand dollars to find out that you didn't

618
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: want to write a book.

619
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: No, is that fair anywhere? Let's just do the vamp.

620
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound fair.

621
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: But then I'll get another fifty thousand dollars when it

622
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: comes out on softcover, and that will be delight when

623
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: that happens. But that was interesting to find out about

624
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: a book deal. It's a slow burn. It's a seven

625
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: year situation.

626
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: Really, that's the start to finish seven years for me.

627
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: This is we're going in on four years. Then I

628
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: assume the softcover won't come out for I would think

629
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: a couple of years.

630
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: So I just think, uh no, I think it's a

631
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: year later later. Okay, maybe tighter turn around. There you go.

632
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Did you enjoyed writing the book? Did you find it

633
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: healing or helpful? It was? It was There was moments

634
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: of giggles. Uh.

635
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: My favorite parts were I got to read it out

636
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: loud of different friends. I paid my friends. Again, if

637
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: you live in an asor any major city and you own.

638
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: A house, pay your friends.

639
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: All my friends that pay them one hundred and twenty

640
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: five bucks an hour if they're doing something for me

641
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: that is professional. And they were listening to my books,

642
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: So that that part was fine when I got some laughs.

643
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: The parts that were hard was then when people, the

644
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: editors would say, oh, we need more or less, or

645
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: this we don't like.

646
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: We didn't like this part? Can you take that out? Yeah?

647
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: Gets old? Yeah exactly, you get so mad t Rex

648
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: arms to get t Rex arm.

649
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's you know, that's the whole reason you

650
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: start doing stand up is that no one can tell

651
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: you what to do.

652
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: And uh, at least that's how why I decided. I

653
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: just that's how I felt too. When you're up there,

654
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: you're the director, the writer, the producer, everything. You're the

655
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: sound person. You decide where to put the mic, how

656
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: to hold them up here. It's like you're in total control.

657
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: It's it's a wonderfully freeing way to work as an artist. Yeah.

658
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: And if you run out the door, you don't even

659
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: have to hear the reviews. What about the review that

660
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert gave you my favorite comedian on Planet Earth? Right?

661
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Isn't that come on? I mean, what did that? Where

662
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: were you and how did it feel?

663
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, it felt insane? He said it backstage

664
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: is coming out on the show, and I was like,

665
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: what is happening?

666
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: What? But very grateful now.

667
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: Of course, a few years later he did say she's

668
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: one of my favorites, which is.

669
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Speaker 1: A precipitous drop, Rosie. Yes, it certainly is There's no

670
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: way to avoid looking at that and saying I have

671
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: fallen his graces in some capacity.

672
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, no, I've got uh yeah, lots of

673
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: support from the comedy community. Uh some jet app to

674
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: how uh uh yeah, mat surewitz been extremely sort of

675
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: a my career.

676
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm done.

677
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: I have succeeded by beyond my wildest dreams. Now it's

678
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: just time to uh get a daily peanut buster parfe

679
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: and fall into a pillow.

680
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, I feel the same way about

681
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: my career, and like people saying what do you want

682
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: to do, I'm like, everything I've wanted to do I

683
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: have gotten to do. I have had an unbelievably fortuitous career.

684
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Is that even the right word. It's unbelievable to me

685
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: what I've been able to. You know, people, what do

686
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: you want to do next? I'm like, whatever happens. I'm

687
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: open for whatever happened. I'm not looking to you know, boy,

688
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: if I could only get people to know my kind

689
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: of personality, No, they know it. You know, you're a

690
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: known identity, You're a known quantity. And you are too right,

691
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: You're a known you know what you're gonna get when

692
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: you get a Maria booking, Yes, don't you think, Oh

693
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: my god?

694
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and so maybe time to book somebody else, is

695
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: what I That's what I always say.

696
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: You're so generous to the other comedian. Why are you

697
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: booking me? I've been here long enough, don't you know

698
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: these bits?

699
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to Yeah, I'm trying to write a

700
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: new hour of material.

701
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: Good for you now. Twenty minutes is my goal to

702
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: make the new twenty minutes because I feel like if

703
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I take on the chunk of an hour, which you know,

704
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: people don't realize takes a long time to write an hour,

705
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: to get an hour edited and cut down and concise

706
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: and to the punchline as quick as possible, and people

707
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: don't understand the amount of work it takes, like it's

708
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: like sculpting something out of stone.

709
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: No. I had somebody come to my morning show who said, so,

710
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: these are the same kind of three premises you've been

711
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: working on.

712
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like the past several shows. This is kind

713
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: of all you have. Like, Yeah, how nice, Yeah, thanks

714
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: for coming, Thank you for talking to me after the show.

715
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I hope you're at all my shows. Come on, what

716
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of bullshit? Is that you know, you take the

717
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: clay that is your life and you rework it into

718
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: different things A bowl, a cup, a play. You know,

719
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: you you work the clay that is your life. What

720
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: does she want for you to get someone else's experience? Yeah?

721
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I wish I had? Uh you know? Do want? Yeah?

722
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Taking tumbling classes? Is that my next thing? Do I

723
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: need to interest you with.

724
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: A roller skilled yoga tea by Maria Yes exactly. Let

725
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: me tell you about how I felt when I started yoga.

726
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think you always rework

727
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: your your life experiences into something more beautiful and more

728
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: more profound as you get older and as you get

729
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: more skilled at doing it, and you know the only

730
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: way to really do it is to show up and

731
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: do it. And and that's what I'm The book made

732
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: me excited, your book, I'll happily join your culture.

733
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Children, and I yeah, yeah, I think it. But it's

734
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: always embarrassing, that's the thing. And it's very embarrassing to

735
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: go out with new new stuff and then people go,

736
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: hmmm that, especially Los Angeles people are like, is.

737
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: That it is that all saw that your last special

738
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: had little inklings of that? Oh? Shut up. You know

739
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: Picasso too much blue? Okay, you like I should listen

740
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: to you, but you know you do it. You do it,

741
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: and you hone it the best you can and you

742
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: know it's funny. I've been obsessive, compulsively watching all of

743
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: the survival shows on TV, with the exception of Naked

744
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: and Afraid, because I think it's gratuitous nudity and I

745
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: don't need people to have bug bites over every part

746
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: of their body. But I've been watching these other show

747
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: It's like Alone where they go in the woods. Oh,

748
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: isn't that something that show? How long do you think

749
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: you could last? In the current season in Saskatchewan. I

750
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: would vote myself off before I got off the helicopter,

751
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, like they drop you. I would be like, sorry,

752
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm tapping out, where's the phone? No, I couldn't do it, Maria.

753
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I think they should have one for celebrities where you

754
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: have to stay in a motel six for a month

755
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: and you get to have you know, uh, and there

756
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: are no whatever minimum wage and they're no minimum wage. Yeah,

757
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: there's no camera. You have to write an essay every

758
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: night about what it feels like and then people will

759
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: judge whether or not your essay was good enough, and

760
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: then you get voted out of the Motel six. I

761
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I could never do it, but

762
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I love watching it. I love thinking looking what people

763
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: come up with. I love you know, there's something about

764
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: starting with nothing and making something and the combination of

765
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: watching alone and reading your book. As I was on

766
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: vacation last week and I was like, I want to

767
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: start doing stand up again. I want to start. Oh

768
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: my god, Yeah, it was you inspired me. You and

769
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Wendy leave Me and Kathy Griffin truthfully, because she's constantly

770
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: on tour. That that Kathy Griffin doesn't give up. Man,

771
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: you know she's going to Vegas. Yeah right, my lord,

772
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: what she's gone through and also what she is achieving now,

773
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: she's you know, at the Mirage selling out the Mirage.

774
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that great?

775
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: You know?

776
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: Hey, I have to do just you just keep going.

777
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's the key from what I've hence the

778
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: title of this podcast, Onward, No matter what happens, people,

779
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: we got one choice. Onward, Okay, no going back. Onward. Well,

780
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that you're delightful. You're so smart, you're so honest,

781
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: and you're so in touch with who you are and

782
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: what your brain is doing at different times that it's

783
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: inspiring to watch you perform because it's never ever a

784
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: standard performance. You bring your own stamp of Maria on

785
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: everything that you do, and that's the mark of a

786
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: wonderfully talented comic that you can tell you know that

787
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: is her. It's been lovely to talk to you. Thank

788
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you for doing my podcast. I've been admiring of yours

789
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: for so many years and I'm so happy that we

790
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: got to check. Thank you, Thanks so much. Thank you

791
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: Maria for being here, and everybody go buy her book

792
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: that comes out September fifth. All right, we'll see you

793
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. Hey, everybody, we're going to

794
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: take some questions now from you, the loyal listeners. Thank

795
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: you for listening. By the way, we got one coming up.

796
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: Let's sit it.

797
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: Good morning, Rosie. My name is Tom. I'm calling from

798
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: the Land of ten Thousand Lakes in Minnesota. Really enjoy

799
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 3: your podcasts, and I really enjoyed the conversation you've had

800
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: with Marcy Marie Simmons. Boy, that really helped for me

801
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: to reframe how I view certain people, certain situations, and

802
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: so I really appreciate that gift you gave to me,

803
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: and I know too many people you have these conversations

804
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: that are filled with heart and compassion, and it really

805
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: made an impact. Say, I've been in the broadcast industry

806
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: nightly news anchor for a couple of decades here in

807
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: Minnesota and throughout the Midwest, and these days, you know,

808
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 3: it's easy to get overwhelmed with the news and things

809
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: that are happening in this tree and around the globe.

810
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm curious what do you do to find your center

811
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: of gravity? For me, it's family, faith, pulling a chair

812
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: up behind or beneath a tree by a lake, and

813
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 3: reading a really good book. What do you do? Where

814
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: do you find your center of gravity these days? Rosie?

815
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Speaker 3: Thanks for all your work and really appreciate the podcast.

816
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Honey. That's so nice of you.

817
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: And I hope when I'm in Minnesota the next time,

818
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to watch your newscuest because I

819
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: will look for you. You know, what do I do

820
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: similar to what you do? A good book always helps

821
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: for me, art, doing art or ingesting art, watching a

822
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: great documentary, you know, doing a painting, mostly hanging out

823
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: with my ten year old. You know, Dakota is a

824
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: very verbal, very inquisitive, curious child, So they keep me

825
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: on my toes. I can tell you that for sure.

826
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: And also so the beach. I love to be near

827
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: the ocean. I love to look out there and reframe

828
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: you just how important things are in my life. When

829
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: you consider that ocean is so huge and you can't

830
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: see what's beneath it, and all of a sudden, you know,

831
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: a dolphin will pop up and you're given this magical

832
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: moment of wonder. It's definitely nature, it's definitely people, and

833
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: it's definitely art, and you know, mindfulness, all of those things,

834
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: all of those things. But my main joy in life

835
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: is humans. You know. I love people. I love to

836
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: know their story. I love to sit and have a conversation.

837
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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you appreciate that here on my podcast.

838
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for leaving a message. I really

839
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. We have another question I understand hit it.

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Speaker 4: Hi Rosie. My name is Anna, I'm forty and I'm

841
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: a lawyer. And I recently listened to your episode where

842
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 4: you had the Weight Loss Doctor on and you talked

843
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: about your personal experience with Monjarro. First, I just want

844
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: to thank you for having episodes like that. I think

845
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: it's important to talk about obesity and medical treatment for

846
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: obesity because people shouldn't be ashamed when they're trying to

847
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: seek remedies or obesity, which is a disease that is not,

848
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: you know, necessarily their fault. However, I was a little

849
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 4: bit surprised that you guys didn't talk about the side

850
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: effects or the negatives to going on these some aglotides.

851
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of litigation going on regarding

852
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: these drugs and how they cause stomach paralysis or paralyzed

853
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, part of the gastrointestrinal track as a result

854
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: of using them, and the manufacturers simply, you know, didn't

855
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: tell people that this could be a side effect. And

856
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: then just last month, the American Academy of Antesesiologists put

857
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: out a warning about these types of drugs, saying that

858
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 4: people are vomiting when they're undergoing surgery, even if they're

859
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 4: adhering to the fasting rules prior to the surgery. So

860
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 4: I just wanted to, you know, bring a little bit

861
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: of balance. You know that these drugs are not a panacea.

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00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: They can be helpful obviously in the appropriate situations, but

863
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: I just thought it was important to note that there

864
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: are some very very severe side effects that can occur

865
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: as a result of taking these drugs, and people shouldn't

866
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 4: take them lightly. They should see a real doctor instead

867
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: of you know, buying it off of Facebook or wherever

868
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, a sketchy source. You know, you want to

869
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: see somebody who's can treat the real you and the

870
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: all your other medical conditions besides obesity, and really think

871
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: about it before going on these types of drugs and

872
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 4: what types of alternatives there are. And just as a

873
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: side note, I also, you know, being forty and looking,

874
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: you know, towards the aging part of my life and

875
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: trying to prepare myself for what's coming ahead. And I

876
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: just wanted to say, you know, how much I appreciate

877
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: you being open about menopause and things like that, and

878
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: I'm glad somebody is talking about that because you know,

879
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: I have no idea what to expect or when it

880
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: happens or anything like that. So I just wanted to say,

881
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: love that content, and hope you have more content about

882
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: women aging and what your experience has been and have

883
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: guests on to talk about their experience. I think that

884
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: that's great content that's missing on other podcasts. Thank you,

885
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: have a great day.

886
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for what a wonderful in depth question and comment.

887
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I'll start first with the menopause one, because that was

888
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: the last thing you said, so it's in my head. Yeah,

889
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: I agree, menopause is something we have to talk about more,

890
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: and that's a wonderful idea. Maybe I'll just you know,

891
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: ask people to write in if they have had a

892
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 1: severe bout with menopause or just a typical one. Mine

893
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: started at forty and it was horrific. It was so

894
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: horrible I can't even tell you, and no one warned me.

895
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: I felt very much hit by, you know, a moving

896
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: truck like I didn't expect to. I wasn't even on

897
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: a street. I just was like bam, you know. And

898
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: the hot flashes are hotter than you can imagine to

899
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: be walking in the mall or you know, target for me,

900
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: and my whole back looked like I had jumped in

901
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: a pool and boy, it was difficult. But that's a

902
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: wonderful idea for another show. So we will definitely do that.

903
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. And as for the Manjaro one.

904
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. I had no side effects zero.

905
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Now I have just been given a dose for the

906
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: five point zero, which is doubling how much I have

907
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: taken this far, And should any side effects come up,

908
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I will definitely talk about them on here. I think

909
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: because I had none. In the same way with menopause,

910
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: I had a lot. I like to talk about all

911
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: of the symptoms and stuff that I had during menopause,

912
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: but because I had none during my Munjaro journey so far,

913
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: I didn't even think to bring it up. But yes,

914
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: I've read those stories. I've talked to my doctor about them.

915
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: She said, you're fine. You are on a very low dose.

916
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: We're going to move you up to five point zero.

917
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: See how that works. Don't worry. You're not in danger

918
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: of any of these things. And you know, I'm gonna

919
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: listen to her. I'm gonna believe her. So I don't know.

920
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I didn't do that. In some ways

921
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: and in other ways, I don't know how to talk

922
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: about an experience I haven't had particularly, But it should

923
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: have been a topic that we brought up. You're right,

924
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: we maybe missed that, But the truth of the matter

925
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: is I haven't had any side effects so far. To me,

926
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: it has been a miracle drug. It doesn't change everything,

927
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: but it changes enough that your body can almost reregulate itself.

928
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm a firm supporter, but as

929
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: for me, my Munjaro journey so far has been fabulous

930
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: without side effects. So thank you very much for the question.

931
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and look out for that. Menopause. As

932
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: I said, mine started at forty and pretty much ended

933
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: at like forty eight. I mean it was eight years

934
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: a hell, honey, So hold on, hold on. Thank you

935
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: so much for the voice memos and everybody. Next week.

936
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: Lena Waite, Boy, did I love talking to her. I

937
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: admire her so much. I think she's so unique and

938
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: so smart and so beautiful and I had a great time.

939
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, she's an Emmy Award winning writer, creator, producer, actor.

940
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: She taps into emerging trends socially. She speaks to a

941
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: myriad of experiences from her unique perspective while challenging audiences

942
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: to think outside of conventional norms. I think you're gonna

943
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: love it. Look for that on Tuesday and have a

944
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: wonderful week. We will see you then. Onward,