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Speaker 1: The volume. Today's World Cup draw reaction is presented by Haleon,

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Speaker 1: the maker of Advil, Centrum, Toms, Censedine and Voltaian. They've

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Speaker 1: teamed up with US Soccer for for the Assist the campaign,

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Speaker 1: celebrating all the moments of support that make the big

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Speaker 1: goals possible, because every goal starts with an assist. In

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Speaker 1: the history of the United States men's national team. The

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Speaker 1: man you're looking at has the most goals and most

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Speaker 1: assists in the history of our country. And we have

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Speaker 1: ourselves a World Cup. Okay, Argentina headlines Group Jay, Algeria,

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Speaker 1: Austria and Jordan. When you said the defending champs Messi

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Speaker 1: will do messy things, which is just individual greatness. Off script,

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Speaker 1: nobody has won back to back World Cup since I

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Speaker 1: believe Brazil fifty eight to sixty two. It's a different worlds.

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Speaker 1: It says moneyed and is competitive, and now we're expanding

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Speaker 1: the tournament, so it's very difficult. There's an argument the

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Speaker 1: last World Cup was perfect timing because you kind of

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Speaker 1: had it felt like the end of Messi's prime, just

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Speaker 1: the end of it. He's now out of his prime.

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Speaker 1: How dependent is Argentine on.

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Speaker 2: Messi what Scolonia has done, their coach a fantastic job

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Speaker 2: of is they are very good with him, and they're

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Speaker 2: also very good without him. And that's a really unique

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Speaker 2: quality when you think about players at the end, think

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Speaker 2: about Lebron, Right, how do you know the first part

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Speaker 2: of this season the Lakers are playing really well and

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is going off, and Luca's great and whatever,

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Speaker 2: and now you have to play Lebron. He's Lebron. And

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Speaker 2: so my question is for them is how will they

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Speaker 2: use Messi? Right? Remember it's in the summer, Colin, it's hot,

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Speaker 2: there's travel, It's not going to be easy. And he's

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Speaker 2: I think thirty nine years old. You can't play every

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Speaker 2: minute of every game. He just can't. Maybe he'll prove

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Speaker 2: me wrong, maybe they'll prove but I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: going to get the best out of him or Argentina

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Speaker 2: if he plays every minute. So the real conversations are

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Speaker 2: going to be way before the World Cup with Scolone,

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Speaker 2: their head coach, talking to Lionel Messi and saying, look,

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Speaker 2: this is how I'd like to use you. Let's work

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Speaker 2: together so we get this thing right, because I don't

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Speaker 2: want you playing every minute, and you can't play every

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Speaker 2: minute if we're going to be successful.

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Speaker 1: All right, Group K is Portugal, use Beekistan, Colombia and

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Speaker 1: potentially a team like Jamaica. So Portugal is the obvious favorite.

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Speaker 1: Cristiano's last World Cup. The only thing he is missing

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Speaker 1: from his career is the World Cup, which was the

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Speaker 1: only thing Messi was missing. Many believe he's the greatest

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Speaker 1: individual player. He's certainly on a short list. Pele Messi,

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Speaker 1: Do you give Portugal, always formidable, a shot to win it?

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Speaker 2: I do? And this is why last summer in the

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Speaker 2: Nations League they this. They played a very very good

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Speaker 2: Spain team, who I think are the best team in

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Speaker 2: the world, and they won the game and it wasn't pretty,

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Speaker 2: but it was gritty and they are more than just

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Speaker 2: Rinaldo now and over time they've really developed some high

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Speaker 2: quality players and they're also a very good team, very

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Speaker 2: well coached by Roberto Martinez. They have now a trophy

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Speaker 2: that they can look to and say we've been here,

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Speaker 2: we've gone through these things, and we have the ability

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Speaker 2: to do this again. Now. Do I think they will?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Much like the Messi conversation, do you think Messi has

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Speaker 2: a little bit of an ego. Christiano is totally next level.

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Speaker 2: So can you have Roberto Martinez that conversation with him

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Speaker 2: and say, look, we don't want you playing every game.

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Speaker 2: Maybe against Uzbekistan, you're not starting. We're going to win

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Speaker 2: that game. Are you okay with that? Can we so

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Speaker 2: that we get the most out of you when we

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Speaker 2: need you. In the knockout stages.

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Speaker 1: Group L features England, Croatia, Ghana and Panama. England is

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Speaker 1: pretty star studded. They've got the new manager Thomas too.

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Speaker 1: They're two talented, may be strong, but there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of jocking with England. How

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Speaker 1: do you balance? I mean they England's a country that

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Speaker 1: is always fascinating, not always great. They're you know they

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Speaker 1: the English Premier League is physical, remarkable, immense pressure. Probably

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Speaker 1: overstated in terms of I think they tend to be

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Speaker 1: a bit overrated, a little overvalued. You're you're, you're nodding appropriately.

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Speaker 1: They but it's the British and the austere way of

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Speaker 2: Right, And you said he nailed it. So the problem

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Speaker 2: with the English team is they are overvalued. It's like

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Speaker 2: it's like people who don't really know the NFL might

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Speaker 2: every week, right, so we turn on our TV every

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Speaker 2: I know that name. So you think they're better than

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Speaker 2: they are. But you talk about a team that can

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Speaker 2: rough unravel fast. I mean the English press are.

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Speaker 1: Brutal, tabloid, the rumor driven.

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Speaker 2: And that the weird thing about England is almost to

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Speaker 2: a man, all the players know it and read it

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Speaker 2: and follow it, which is bizarre to me because you

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Speaker 2: get to a point in your career where like I'm

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Speaker 2: turning off the social media, I'm not. But the players

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Speaker 2: I used to when I played at Everton, we'd go

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Speaker 2: have breakfast and there's all the rag magazines on there.

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Speaker 2: The guys are sitting flipping through reading them. All what

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Speaker 2: you're doing, Stop reading that crap, you know? And so

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Speaker 2: they really feel it and and if things go bad,

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Speaker 2: it can go bad fast for them because you can

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Speaker 2: see it and sense it on the field. When things

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Speaker 2: are going poorly in a game, they're thinking in their head,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, what is the press going to write

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Speaker 2: about this? You can see it happening in their head.

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Speaker 1: They'll have enormous support. However, in Canada or the States

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Speaker 1: would they not.

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Speaker 2: Oh they massive, massive, massive, massive. And that's the beauty

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Speaker 2: of having a World Cup in America is you could

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Speaker 2: say that about probably fifteen nations, and that doesn't generally

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Speaker 2: have Like in Qatar it was there. You don't have

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand people there for supporting a team, but you

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Speaker 2: could have. If Jamaica make the World Cup and they

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Speaker 2: play a game in or near Miami or Haiti. Haiti's

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Speaker 2: playing a game in Atlanta, there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: of Asians there, right. So this is a really unique

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Speaker 2: opportunity if you get a chance anybody to go see

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Speaker 2: a game, doesn't matter what game, go see a game.

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Speaker 2: Scotland's in the World Cup, call them Scotland. I called

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Speaker 2: the first game of the Euro's Germany Scotland two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Listening to Flower of Scotland the national anthem live is

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Speaker 2: a memory I will never forget in my life. Thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand Scotts belting it out. They are a team that

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Speaker 2: will bring the party. So if you get a chance

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Speaker 2: to be around them or a game, do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm often asked if you could go to one sporting event,

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Speaker 1: what would it be, And I've always said, men's or

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Speaker 1: women's go to a World Cup match. If not featuring us,

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Speaker 1: featuring our allies like France or England. It's just I'm

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Speaker 1: envious of few, but I am envious of our American

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Speaker 1: soccer stars, you and Alexi and Clint Dempsey, who I've

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Speaker 1: always loved. There's a global aspect to your life that

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Speaker 1: your job was getting on a plane and going to

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Speaker 1: see the world. And I've always felt like with my kids,

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Speaker 1: I always say, you know, experiences and education. I don't

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Speaker 1: worry about what they cost. Get on planes, go amen

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Speaker 1: in your world that you've lived. Give me the place

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Speaker 1: that you love to play and the country you love

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Speaker 1: to face. What to you was you would think about

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Speaker 1: it two weeks out? It could be in Parish, could

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Speaker 1: be in Wembley. But was there was there a place

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Speaker 1: to you globally that always felt special?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? There are soccer mechas right, so estudio as Teca

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Speaker 2: in Mexico City, the Marca in Brazil, Wembley in England,

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Speaker 2: and and almost every country has a version of that.

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Speaker 2: But the benefit of playing for the US is we

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Speaker 2: one of my first national team camps ever was in Barbados,

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Speaker 2: and we want it was was when we had multiple

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Speaker 2: rounds of qualifying and we won this game and got

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Speaker 2: through that qualifying round and then it's like, let's go party.

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Speaker 2: And you're on the beach and you know the rum

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Speaker 2: and all the things, and so you get to go

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Speaker 2: to these amazing places. You're sitting on a beachfront hotel

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Speaker 2: and you're kind of looking at yourself like, this is

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Speaker 2: my job. This is a jack, right, It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this, man. I really appreciated this,

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Speaker 1: and this is going to be so much fun for me.

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Speaker 1: And I've always I tell Alexi this all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm paid to know American sports, but I am an

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Speaker 1: a and I try to be a journalist. I am

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Speaker 1: not with the United States men's national team. I am

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Speaker 1: an abject homer. I have no problem saying it. I

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Speaker 1: care more about that than anybody else. And I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Matt, it be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks col Big, Thanks to haleon and for the assist,

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