1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess, Hilariy, Charlamage the guy. We 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. Jess's on maternity leave, so we 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: have Lord La Rossa and of course we got our 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: brother act with us. This morning. We got a special 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: guest in the building. We have Caleb Plant. Welcome, brother, man. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: How's it going. How you feeling man? Feeling good? 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Feeling good? What's happening? Brother? Let's talk about you a 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: little bit man. How'd you get your start in boxing? 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 4: Well, my dad was a fighter when he was younger, 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: and so, you know, naturally wanted to open that door 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 4: for me, and you know me wanting to you know 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: a lot of young boys want to be like their 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: dad when they grow up. And just took to it 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: right away, and him and my granddaddy got put a 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 4: little money together to open up like a little gym 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 4: and was in there from like two forty five to 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: like ten thirty at night, like six days a week. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: Loved it. 21 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 5: How are you? 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: I started on as nine, Yeah, that's why I like 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 4: organized competing. When I was nine years old. Yeah, that's 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: all I wanted to do. And at first I started kickboxing, 25 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: and I had five world titles and non national titles 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: and kickboxing, but I was like boxing simultaneously. So like 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: one weekend, my dad would drive me to Atlanta one 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: week and my dad would we drove Chicago, drive to 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Virginia Beach. 30 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: He was just driving me everywhere. 31 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: But then when I got to seventeen, I was like, man, 32 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: I don't really want to kickbox anymore, and there's no 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: money in kickboxing. I don't want to do anything else, 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: so I just want to do boxing. 35 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 6: So you used to probably fight a lot, even outside 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 6: of the ring or outside of like organized competition. 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: I mean in a couple, just a couplet, lost came, 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: but just a couple. 39 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: But Tennessee, I mean not known for fighters. When did 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: you realize I could really be something that sport maybe 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 5: put Tennessee on the map as far as boxing. 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I maybe I was delusional, but I felt 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: like when I was nine, like I was like, man, 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: I'm going to be this this. 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to be this one day. 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: And even in like middle school, like I would practice 47 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: my signature on a piece of paper like fill up. 48 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: The whole thing would come around and be like what. 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Are you doing. 50 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm practicing my autographs. She's like for what. 51 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna make it a boxing one day. 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: She's like, you need to play. 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: And b. 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I always felt like, man, I'm gonna 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: make it big one day. 56 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: Who did you look up to? 57 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Boxing wise? 58 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 4: When he was growing up, looked up to Floyd andre Ward, 59 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: and then like older fighters like Sugar Ray Leonard, uh 60 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: welfraid O Benita Is, James Tony Hector Camacho, and then 61 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: like even older like and Georgie Benton and people like that. 62 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: So there's a long list of guys that I've been 63 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: you know, watching over the years, trying to still moves 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: from and take them and make them my own and 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: just you know, be a complete fighterself. Yeah, I got 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: a lot of long lists of people that I respect 67 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: throughout the game. 68 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: Now, you had to fight this week, and what did 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: you think of the fight last week? And I should 70 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 3: say Cadelo Berlanga. 71 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: I just thought it was kind of a one sided woman. 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: You know, he might have won maybe a round, so, 73 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: but a lot of people expected Berlanga to probably get stopped, 74 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: you know, halfway along, you know, halfway through the fight, 75 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: round six, round eight, something like that. So you know 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: he made it through. 77 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: So were you surprised about your fight? 78 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 6: You tought to McCombe, you know, were you surprised at 79 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 6: how he started to fight in game momntum after he 80 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 6: knocked you down. 81 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: I mean, no one goes into a fight like I'm 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: gonna get an eight count, but I was. 83 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I was locked in. We were taking them serious. You know. 84 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: I feel like in today's game, it's like a popularity contest. 85 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: You know, if you're not like the most don't have 86 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: the most followers, or you're not the most known, people 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: will call you a bum. But you know, we knew 88 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: he was athletic, undefeated. You know, this was his big 89 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: moment and he was coming to put it on the line. 90 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: And at the end of the second round he caught 91 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: me with a pretty good shot. And then in round four, 92 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: I got caught on the shoulder, fell down and they 93 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: gave me an a count. But I wasn't really tripping 94 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: because I wasn't hurt or anything like that. So I'm like, man, 95 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: just stay cool and just keep doing what you're doing, 96 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: and then uh try to just switch up the game plan. 97 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: Took it to the inside. He was like wild erradic, 98 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: you know, swinging crazy, like bull rushing me and stuff, 99 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: and uh, kind of hard to like read things. 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: So took it to the inside and from there, you. 101 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: Know, people saying that your fight was the most entertaining 102 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: of the night. You know, a lot of people saying 103 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: that is that important to you to please the crowd? 104 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you're known for it to be 105 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: a slick boxer, but but that was an entertaining fight. 106 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: Is that important to you? 107 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: It's not. Really. 108 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: It's important to me to stick to the game plan. 109 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: You know, It's important to me to listen to my coaches, 110 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: and you know, I got you know, today's boxing is 111 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: filled with a lot of pe teachers, you know, but 112 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: I have real boxing teachers and people who studied the game. 113 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: Pe teachers, yeah, pe teachers, you know, people with the 114 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: whistle on the stopwatch don't teach boxing, you know. And 115 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: but I have that my dad bread and I trust them, 116 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: you know, that's why they're in that position. So the 117 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: game plan was a stick and moving box and then 118 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: maybe stepped to him a little later on. But once 119 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: I realized that things were a lot less erradic on 120 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: the inside. I took it to the in the fourth round, 121 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 4: I stepped to them a little bit on the inside 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: and I came back to the corner. I'm like, man, 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: that's where I need to be. And Bread was like, hey, 124 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 4: you gotta trust me, but we're gonna be on the inside. 125 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: The rest of the fight, him and my dad were 126 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: saying that, I'm like, cool, that's I felt. 127 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: The same way. 128 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: So and that was the That was the you know, 129 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: the difference answer, you know the answer, that's what needed 130 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: to be done. And you know we were all on 131 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 4: one accord. So uh, that's what it's about. 132 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: You know. 133 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: I had been telling you guys over the last eighteen months, 134 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: you know, I really been working on smoothing the edge 135 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: of my game and being the most complete fighter or being, 136 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: and that I'm the most complete fighter that I've been yet. 137 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: And then it was nice to be able to go 138 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: out there and show that. 139 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: How do you know when to pivot in a fight? 140 00:05:59,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 5: Though? 141 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 6: Look, at what point do you need to get knocked down? 142 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Or do you when you're down in the cards? 143 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: Like I mean, it could be for numerous reasons, you know, 144 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: I just felt in that moment, specifically speaking, you know, 145 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: it just felt like the way he was bull rushing 146 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: and being like I said, erratic and unorthodox, unconventional. 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: It was just. 148 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: It just seemed like that that was the right move. 149 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: And then when I came back to the corner, they 150 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: were telling me the same thing. So then like once 151 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: they reinforced that, I'm like, that's what I. 152 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Need to do. And so it just depends. 153 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: There could be a million different reasons why maybe you 154 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: get hurt, you know, maybe you're down on the cards, 155 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: maybe in this situation where he was like being unconventional. 156 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: It could be for numerous reasons. But that's why it 157 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: pays to be you know, well rounded and you know, 158 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: be able to be slick and move and box and 159 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: stand your ground or move and then also to be 160 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: able to you know, fight in the pocket. 161 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 7: So every time you walk into a fight, is your 162 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 7: goal to knock somebody or is it just to get 163 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 7: through the fight? Like what's the uh, just. 164 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: Stick to the game plan and if the knockout comes, 165 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: it comes. Like in twenty twenty two, I had you know, 166 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: k O the year against Anthony drel But it's not 167 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: a shot that I was looking for. It's just you know, 168 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: the best knockouts come when you're not looking for it. 169 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: So I was waiting for you to ask a question. 170 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: First of all, why was I finishing. 171 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 7: What you're getting at? 172 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: Because that method. 173 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: I'm just asking a question. Why you're so quiet? 174 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: I was waiting. 175 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 7: I'm learning his story as I'm sitting here. 176 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: Obviously, you guys have some drama leading up to the fight, 177 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: and on the press card ference where for those that 178 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: don't know, Canelo kind of gave me a shot saying 179 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 5: I'll take care of him for you. Is he still 180 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: on your radar? Like with that performance, do you think 181 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: it's a it's a big fight you against Berlanga. 182 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like it would. You know, the 183 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: fans would be excited to see it, and you know 184 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: he's one of the bigger names and the Superman aweight division, 185 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: and I'm always looking to, you know, get in there 186 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: with people who have big names or are big challenges. 187 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: And so he called your hater when he was up there, 188 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 3: he said that when you had your time to shine, 189 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: he never disrespected you and he said now it's just 190 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: his time. He said that you were a hater and 191 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: saying him for a fighter. 192 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 6: You know, Khalie Plant, he said you are an unworthy 193 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: challenger for Canelo. He said you got a weak chin, 194 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 6: lack of experience, and poor technical boxing skills. He said, 195 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 6: you have no experience against genuine, world class opposition, and 196 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 6: you struggled against the marginal competition that your promoters have 197 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: carefully selected for. 198 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: You to maintain your unbeaten record. What do you say 199 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: to that. 200 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: He's a hater period, He's a guy. 201 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 8: He had his see you know, it was a thing 202 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 8: with him, right And I told him when I seen him, 203 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 8: when I seen him in Vegas, I said, y'all got 204 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 8: a lot of respect for you because you've been at 205 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 8: that level. And I'm saying, even though you lost, but 206 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 8: you've been at that level. Like you fought Canelo, you 207 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 8: fought Benavidez, and I got to give you that respect. 208 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: You got it. 209 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 8: You got to that level for me. But I feel 210 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 8: like now he clout chasing you for me. He's doing 211 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 8: a lot of weird shit just to just to be 212 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 8: relevant again for me, because I feel like, and a 213 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 8: lot of people know, dude, don't sell you for me. 214 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 8: He don't soun less he unless he's finding a big, 215 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 8: a big fighter you for me. So I'm like you 216 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 8: a hater, bro, because when it was your time to shine, 217 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 8: when it was your time to step in every with 218 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 8: kind of low and all these guys. 219 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I never bashed you. 220 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: I never said nothing about you. You know what I'm saying. 221 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 8: I let you have your moment, but you didn't take 222 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 8: your opportunity for me. 223 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: You lost. 224 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: You're knocked out. 225 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: So how did that? In Vegas? I saw you guys 226 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: going back and forth in a clip that went viral, 227 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: and you said you was giving him respect. So how 228 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 5: did it turn into you guys going back and forth? 229 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: Because what did he say to you? What was his 230 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: because you're. 231 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 8: Broadt the end of the day, I'm I'm a dude man, 232 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 8: right Like I'm from I'm from New York. I'm from 233 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 8: the trenches for me, So it's different how you come. 234 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: You're going. 235 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 8: If I'm giving you respect, you're gonna respect me for me. 236 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 8: And I gave him that respect, but he just kept 237 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 8: going and going and going with the YO. 238 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 5: Well what's up, yo? 239 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna give me that fight? Yo? I'm like, now I'm. 240 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: Focusing on some time. 241 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 8: I got Canolo. He was talking, but forget about that. 242 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 8: If you don't get Cana, what's up. I'm like, no, 243 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 8: it's not I'm not even worrying about that. Like, I 244 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 8: got a plan. We're sticking with that now. But he 245 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 8: just kept going and going, Oh yeah, but what happened 246 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 8: with the spawn? He's talking about spaw wing. I was 247 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 8: like seventeen years old, and I'm like, but what happened 248 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 8: in the sixth round? I fucked him up. I fucked 249 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 8: you up, and I blew you on the sixth round 250 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 8: with the body side you ran out the ring. He started, Oh, 251 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 8: I'm all right, So that's when you know I got 252 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 8: on my New York when. 253 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 5: You were spawn. 254 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, he was a pro already. Yeah, he was pro, 255 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 8: and I just turned it up on him. You know 256 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like you know what? She went viral 257 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 8: called me like, yo, he looks sounds like a real 258 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 8: New York nigga. 259 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: Man, I mean hit were girls? 260 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: He said, he's married. 261 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's okay, it makes sense. 262 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I got the top of him. 263 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go stir Yeah. 264 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: That man. 265 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: I was asking for her. That's why she was so quiet. 266 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: I got a top. 267 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: There you go me too, brother, There you go, marry again. 268 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: Set up. 269 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: But I mean. 270 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: When I had my chance, like we were never around 271 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: each other, so as far as him not hating, like 272 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: we never talked, but really, I've just seen him at 273 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 4: the I mean Mungie away in and all of a 274 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: sudden I looked up and you know, a lot of 275 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: the focus was like on Canelo and them because it's 276 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: their fight, and uh, he's standing right next to me, 277 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: and I'm like, hey, what's up, man, how's it going? 278 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Da da da? 279 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: And I was like, man, we need to make a 280 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: big fight happen. You know, I'm sure you know it 281 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: would be good for boxing, be good for the fans. 282 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: And he was like, yeah, but I gotta fight already. 283 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cool, Well, you know, if 284 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: if it don't work out, we can fight, and if 285 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 4: it does work out, we can fight after, you know, 286 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: whether you win or lose or whatever. And he's like 287 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: on his uh what does he say? His New York 288 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: his bully shit or something like that. And I'm like, look, 289 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: I get it. You gotta fight either. If you don't 290 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: get it, we can make it happen. And uh, you know, 291 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: da da da dah. He and he starts, you know, 292 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: acting tough, and so you know, I'm not taking a 293 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: step back neither, and then I'm like, well, let's get 294 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: the cameras over here and get it on, you know, 295 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: for the boxing interviewers, like, hey, if he fights Canelo, 296 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: we're going to fight after. 297 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: If he don't, then we're going to fight next. 298 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: And his daddy steps in front of him, and all 299 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 4: my life on my boxing career, his dady steps in 300 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: front of him said no, I don't say that on camera. 301 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: He said quiet like that. 302 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, that gave me confidence because like 303 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 4: if his dad was so you know, confident in his son, 304 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: then just let him say yeah, even if he wasn't 305 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: going to follow through and do it, like, why not 306 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: at least just say yeah for the cameras, even if 307 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: it was just for the cameras. 308 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I don't say that. 309 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 6: So did you respect for him go up as a 310 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: fighter seeing him go to difference with Canelo? 311 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's like the. 312 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: Is that like the level that we respect now, Like, oh, 313 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if he went around like as long as 314 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: he survived, you know, not really, you know, if a 315 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: real fighter. You know, I'm not here to brag about 316 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: who lost the best against Canelo because that seems silly, 317 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: but at the same time, like I won more. I 318 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: definitely won more rounds, and I went out on my 319 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: shield trying to win as opposed to you know, yip 320 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: yapping the whole lead up and then just for the 321 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: most part, keeping my hands in my back pockets the 322 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: whole fight. And you know, he's the big bad wolf 323 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: who says he punches harder than Triple G. 324 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: But he was the one getting walked down the whole fight. 325 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: It's not like he's stuck and moved and boxed and 326 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: used his skills. Canelo was just walking him down the 327 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: whole fight. 328 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: And so. 329 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: Especially once it's like eleven to one, you know, tend 330 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: to tend to nothing. Or in the eleventh round and you 331 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: have it won one round, it's time to like let 332 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: put it on the line, Like if you get stopped, 333 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: it's part of the game. You know how many legendary 334 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: fighters have been stopped. Roberto Duran has been knocked out, 335 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 4: Cole fell right on his face against Tommy. You know, 336 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali has been ben decked, like just go out 337 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: on your shield, like who cares? But his ego wouldn't 338 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: allow him to do that. You know, he'd rather stay 339 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: clean and pretty and so now I don't really respect that. 340 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 6: You fought Canelo and Benevidez, right, So so so who 341 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 6: win did that fight? 342 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: In your opinion, since you've been in there with both of. 343 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: Them, I think it's hard to say. You know, in big, 344 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: big fights like that, you know they have different styles. Uh, 345 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: you know, if Cannelo caught him with a big punch, 346 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: because you know, David has been dropped before. It was 347 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: he was off balance, but he has been dropped. But 348 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: if Canelo caught him and stopped him, you know, would 349 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: we all be like, man, I can't believe that, you know, 350 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would say that. 351 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: But if David, you. 352 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: Know, got on Canelo and started flaring a lot, flirting 353 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: a lot, and you know, maybe in the later rounds 354 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: was able to you know, get some steam or some 355 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: momentum or something, I don't think we would be surprised either. 356 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: So it's hard to say whoever's on that night, and 357 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: you know, whoever's got the best game play, whoever had 358 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: a good camp. You know, there's a lot of variables 359 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: that go into it that lead up to you know, 360 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: a fighter having a successful fight. You can there's a 361 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: lot it's. 362 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 5: You know, speaking of those two opponents, You've always been 363 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: somebody that wants to get your licked back, right, wants 364 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 5: to rematch your guys that you want to because you've 365 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: been talking about Canelo again. 366 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Revenge or that. 367 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you had the opportunity, right, because there was 368 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: obviously bad blood with Benavitez a lot, Canelo not so much. 369 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 5: You guys seem to be cool now, but that's the 370 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: bigger money fight. But deep down, what loss would you 371 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: want to avenge more? 372 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: Well, Canlo has more hardware, and you know, for legacy 373 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, putting like I would choose Canelo 374 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: because he's got more hardware. You know, he's got three 375 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: of the four belts. 376 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: And they get checked at the end of that too. 377 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you know, can't No one ever got 378 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: mad for getting paid more either, you know so, But 379 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people put the emphasis on 380 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: the money when they fight Canelo, and you know, we 381 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: all got to get our bills paid. But money is 382 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: not like my number one reason why wild box. You know, 383 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm passionate about the sport. I'm a competitor, you know, 384 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: I love boxing. Has done a lot of great things 385 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: for me. So the money is obviously on the list, 386 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: but it's not at the top of the list. It's 387 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: the hard where the legacy, you know, the honor of 388 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: the glory. But I'd run it back with both of them. 389 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 7: In a rematch with Canelo. How do you like, what 390 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 7: do you do different? What do you improve, what do 391 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 7: you change? 392 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't have the best camp that that fight, 393 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: so would like to just be able to have a 394 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: better camp. And you know, experience isn't I've said this before, 395 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: but experience isn't something you can borrow. 396 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: It's not something you can buy. You know, you got 397 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: to go through the fire to get it. 398 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: And since the Canelo fight, you know, I feel like 399 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: I've done that fighting Canelo, then Derrell, two time former 400 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: world champ, David ben a Vida's former two time world champ, 401 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: and now you know this guy who was ranked number 402 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: nine in the WBAH, I feel like I have that experience. 403 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: Is there a particular fight in your career did you 404 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 6: feel like best defines you as a fighter, Like if 405 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 6: you had to show somebody this is me as a boxer, 406 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 6: this is which fight would that be? 407 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: Well, my first world title fight against Jose U Scottighie. 408 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: I was an underdog going into that fight. You know, 409 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: I hadn't really like been able to properly introduce myself, 410 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: and a lot of people were, you know, saying this, 411 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: saying that I was gonna get beat, going to get stopped, 412 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: and I wanted to you know, doing my thing that 413 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: fight become world champs. So either that or you know, 414 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: this last fight, even though I got hit on the 415 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 4: shoulder with a and got an eight count. Uh and 416 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: then you know I got caught with a good shot 417 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 4: in round two. Other than that, hit me with a 418 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: couple of shots here and there. But that's boxing. You 419 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: know you're gonna get You're gonna get hit. But just 420 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: making that adjustment, you know, that'd probably be another. 421 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: One cale if you feel like you got you have 422 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: to fight or just be with a chip on your shoulder, 423 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 5: because you know, guys like Bernard in a past as 424 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: has said I'm never gonna let a white boy beat me, 425 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: and the other black fighters have said that. So do 426 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: you feel like you have to be extra to prove 427 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: to yourself like I'm not a regular white boy. 428 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: I don't feel like I have to be extra, you know, 429 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: I think being yourself is you know how you get 430 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: furthest in life. 431 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: But you get you get tested, like we all saw 432 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 5: you smacked. 433 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: You, I respond. Is not me trying to be extra. 434 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 4: That's just who I am, you know, and like but 435 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: because I don't think someone if someone's grabbing on your 436 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: face and you ask them to stop and they do 437 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: it again, and you know, then they're saying, you know, 438 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: saying you know things about being a white boy, and 439 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: you know, in front of your peers, in front of 440 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: your wife. If you respond the way I did, that's 441 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: not being an extra, that's just you know. 442 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: But do you feel like you're. 443 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: With you because you're quiet so spoken? 444 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. It's been like that my whole 445 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: life level. But like you know, I guess to your 446 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: point as motivation and you know, hopefully like by the 447 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: time I'm retired, you know, fight like a white boy 448 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 4: in something different, you know what I mean? 449 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 6: How do you know how do you notice flapping not 450 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 6: punch because the instinc would be to just throw a punch. 451 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Right, I mean. 452 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 4: In that moment, he was trying to treat me like 453 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: a little boy, so I treated him like a little boy, damn. 454 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 7: So that was just you responding to what was happening 455 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 7: in the moment. That don't mean like it's going to 456 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 7: officially be like an actual fight with y'all. 457 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: I mean it can be. You know, he's in he 458 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: fights in one sixty I fight at one sixty eight. 459 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: His last fight, he fight at a catchway to one 460 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: sixty three against a guy who fights at one forty seven, 461 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: and he came in at This is a lot of numbers, 462 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: but he came in at like one sixty six, so 463 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: he even came in overweight on the catchway. So he's 464 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: a super middleweight at this point. So we could definitely 465 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: make a fight happen. You know, I he's going through 466 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: things in his personal life, and you know, I made 467 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: a statement saying like it whatever happened between us could 468 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: be set on the back burner for now. You know, 469 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: he's got things he's going through, Go handle that and 470 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: we can make a big fight happen until then. You know, 471 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: I don't think it'd be right for me to like 472 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: continuously like have my foot on his neck or be 473 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: pressing him about certain things like he's got you know, 474 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 4: enough on his plate, and you know he's got kids, 475 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: and I'm sure we'd all like to see him get 476 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: hisself together and you know, go out and make a 477 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: decent living for his family. 478 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 7: So is that you because I know you went through 479 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 7: stuff in your personal life like twenty fourteen with your 480 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 7: daughter and then losing your mom as well too, Are 481 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 7: you able to like be empathetic like that and remove 482 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 7: the boxer or the fighter because you've been through your 483 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 7: own things? 484 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: Or I mean I could honestly like care less what 485 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: somebody's been through. That's not an excuse to not know 486 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: how to act. You know, boxing is a grown man sports, 487 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: So if you're going to be in here, you're gonna 488 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: have to act like a grown man because there's grown 489 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: men in here, and if you act like a little boy, 490 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: then one of us might treat you like a little boy. 491 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: So if you need help, I'll be the help you need. 492 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: You know, as far as whatever you're going went through it. 493 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 4: If you're not, if you can't hold it hold it 494 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: together well enough to just be out and about, then 495 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: you should be inside, you know, regardless of what you've 496 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: been through, because like you said, you know I've been through. 497 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: We've all been through things, but we're not walking around 498 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: grabbing people by the face or not even that situation. 499 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: With anybody face for you to slap them, because. 500 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 4: I was like, he did like that and pulled on 501 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 4: my beard and I pushed them back, and I'm like, yo, 502 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: what are you doing? Like don't I was mad, you know, 503 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 4: don't ever grab me mam face again to and he 504 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: reached up and did. 505 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: It right again. 506 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: And you only grab someone by their face for two reasons. 507 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: Either one you want to fight them, or two you 508 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: don't think they're going to do anything, yeah, or. 509 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Three hopefully hopefully be one of the first two. 510 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 9: Why Like that was not even an option, Like damn, 511 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 9: he was thinking, Oh god, how did you mentally stay 512 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 9: focused after you know, those those terrible optacles happened in 513 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 9: your life? 514 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 6: Like how do you even just stay focused? I mean 515 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 6: not even forget fighting just to show up in the world. 516 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, because everything's so public too. 517 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 518 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 519 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: you got two choices. You know, if something's going on, 520 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 4: you can either keep going or you can quit. And 521 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: if you quit, you know, whatever situation you're in is 522 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: probably probably going to be like that forever, you know 523 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 4: what I mean, And it's always going to be messed up. 524 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 4: You're always gonna wonder what if, but if you keep going, 525 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: you know, who knows what will happen. And I guess 526 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: I just always had like this voice in my head 527 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: that was like, if you keep going, it's gonna work out. 528 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: If you keep going, you're gonna make it. If you 529 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: keep going, you know, things are gonna come together. And 530 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: so like I just kept listening to that, kept going, 531 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: and there was no way that I could like allow 532 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: myself to live forever in the situation you know that 533 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: I was in. You know, I need more than that, 534 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: and just kept putting one foot in front of the other. 535 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: I guess, just don't quit either, quitter, you keep going, so. 536 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: Absolutely m now you fact, Joe had some words at 537 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 3: one time too, Yo. 538 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: We uh we had how did you know that every day? 539 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: In fact, you always get into it with boxes man like. 540 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: This list. 541 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was based on Berlanga because you know 542 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: he's siding with Berlanga and him and Berlang had some dramas. 543 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Yo. I seen him at the fight. 544 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: I was like headed to the back to the back 545 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: of the T mobile and he was walking this way, 546 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 4: and uh, when we were walking past each other, I'm 547 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: not sure if he said something first, or if I 548 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: said something and he says something right back, or if 549 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: like we kind of caught each other out of the 550 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: corner of our eye and we both just turned around 551 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: and started like yapping at each other. 552 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: But he must have been pretty bothered because you know 553 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: about it. 554 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: He didn't tell me I heard it, say about it. 555 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: Well, then he's telling other people then. And I was 556 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: at con. 557 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: Yesterday and somebody came up to me and told me, like, Mayor, 558 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: that's his manager. 559 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: It's a business part, Okay. 560 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: It was like yeah, this, that and the third fados mass. 561 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: I guess he must have been pretty pretty bothered for 562 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 4: everybody to find out. 563 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 564 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: We were just walking by each other and he said, 565 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: how does it feel having to get up off the 566 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: ground three times? Because I from the shoulder and the 567 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: other two times I just feel But he just randomly 568 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: said that you yeah, But which is weird because I 569 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: won and two of them one he caught me with 570 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: the decent shot, the other two like just fell, you know, 571 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: so like that's not really a flex to say, how 572 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: to feel good? Them off the ground three times? If 573 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: I won, become a term champ. Stop the guy, your 574 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: guy lost every round, Like, what do you mean how 575 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: did it feel felt better than not getting my hand raised? 576 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 577 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: I don't know how little old me could have all 578 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: them that bothered. 579 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 5: But you know what, if you and Berlanga were a fight, though, 580 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: like leading up to the fight, the press, there might 581 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: be some drama. You're knowing to swing on people out 582 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 5: the ring. You did it with connect load with y'allow, 583 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: how bad would that press toward be with you and 584 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: ber Langer? 585 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 586 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: I never retaliated towards somebody who wasn't disrespectful, not even that, 587 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: but like putting their hands on me or you know, 588 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: being being trying to harass me or something like that. 589 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: So I mean, I don't know. I can't say. 590 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: Do they want you about that? About putting your hands 591 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: on people outside dring? 592 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean. 593 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: My manager has like had a discussion with me, but 594 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 4: not in the sense of like you're not doing the 595 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: right thing. It's like, look, you know I know that 596 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: certain people have you know, it's like I know they're 597 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: starting it, but just be careful, just be smart. 598 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: If the boxing commision doesn't find you for that, just 599 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: because it's still a business. 600 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: Right I mean, like, if I get in a fight outside, 601 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: you don't get in trouble in boxing. 602 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: You know, they don't care about that. 603 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: Then the hands got to be ready to his weapons. 604 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: That is not true. Okay, definitely not true. 605 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: I've heard that so many times, Like, no, that's not true. Now, 606 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: if you get in a fight and you hurt somebody 607 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: and then the judge sees that you're a professional boxer, 608 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: you know, they could be like, hey, you can get 609 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: more trouble for that. But if you're defending yourself or 610 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 4: you know, self defense, like just because you're a boxer, 611 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: you can't necessarily get in like more trouble as long 612 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: as you're in the right you know. 613 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: What do you feel working with somebody like a him? 614 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: And for all these he is right? Who was one 615 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: of the most powerful men in boxing for so many 616 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: years and to somebody he still is right. But obviously 617 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: his excellency Turkey Ali Chica has come into the sport 618 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: and poured so much money into it. You obviously we 619 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: saw the aj fighting uh in London and then Bud 620 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: Crawford and who your friends were in LA Do you 621 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 5: like him for the sport and do you think like 622 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 5: guys like him and Alt can coax together and make 623 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: big fights together. 624 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they can coexist. You know, 625 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 4: Bob and now I've co existed Oscar and Al and 626 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: Bob have co existed, so you know, I'm sure they 627 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: can all co exist with another guy jumping in. 628 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: But do you like him for the sport? Yeah? 629 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean, hey, if he's streating fighters well, if he's 630 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: paying fighters well, and you know, doing good bye the sport, 631 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to be a that's good in 632 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: my book. 633 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 634 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: You fight if he offered you, you know, on one 635 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 5: of his real season cars, would you work with Turkey 636 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 5: and fight on one of his cards? 637 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: I know that he works with Al. 638 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: You know, he's had a couple of fighters over there, 639 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: David Morrell and you know, but you know, I'm with 640 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: Alan Luis, and you know, if he ever wanted me 641 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: on a show, you know I'd be open to that. 642 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 4: He would just have to go do it the right way, 643 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: and you know, we'd all have to come doing agreements 644 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: and you know, be on one accurt because you know, 645 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: Alan Luis have taken good care of me for a 646 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 4: long time now. 647 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, so who's next for you, Mongia Burloga. 648 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Berlanga or the Charlot fight 649 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: makes more sense. I think it's more exciting for boxing, 650 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: more exciting for the fans. 651 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I think one. 652 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: Of those, one of those two. 653 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think, Charlotte? 654 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: I think Burlonga would be hot right now. I think 655 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 6: you and Berlonga would make a great card right now. Yeah, yeah, 656 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: I mean I like the ch'allo brother too, but Burlonga 657 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 6: is like hot right right now, both y'all right now, yeah, 658 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: it just makes sense for y'all to just makes sense 659 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 6: from a boxing fan perspective. 660 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: That's what I would want to see. 661 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: I think so too. 662 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, I know you're in New York. You 663 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 5: have a big fashion dude, like ye're doing a lot 664 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 5: of shopping. Oh boy, I've seen something on Instagram where 665 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: somebody's comparing you and Berlanga like your style because he's 666 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 5: from New York. So talk about that. 667 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: You can talk about what. 668 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 5: You know, like style, fashion like it's all like you 669 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: with you on that. So what you don't think he 670 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 5: can compete with you in that department? 671 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: I mean probably just different styles. He likes to wear 672 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: like all designer. You know, I'm not really into that, 673 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: but I think passion for me just like stim from 674 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: probably not having any of that stuff when I was 675 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: a kid, and like you know, want of nice shoes, 676 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: want of nice clothes, one of nicer things. But fashion 677 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: is something I've gravitated towards, you know, uh, even before, 678 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: like I have the money to buy, like, oh you 679 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: know I like this style, I like that, and I 680 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: have my own clothing brand now, Revenge. 681 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: Tour, it's been doing stuff. 682 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been doing real well, and you know, people 683 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: have really gravitated towards it and you know, probably feel 684 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: a connection to it in their own life. And then 685 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: also seeing that I actually have lived that life. You know, 686 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm not just trying to make something cool for everybody 687 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: to want to buy, Like I'm a good representation of that, 688 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: I feel like, And so that's something I plan on, 689 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: you know, running. 690 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: Up What made you want to going to Revenge So 691 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 6: because I mean, to me, you've had a great boxing career, 692 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 6: Like you don't dug nobody, You're getting there with whoever 693 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: the challenge is. So what makes you feel like you 694 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: know you're an underdog now? Who has to I guess 695 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 6: seek revenge. 696 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: Well, I thought of it after I lost to Canelo, 697 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: like a coldon brand is something I've always wanted but 698 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: just had been sitting on a name, trying to see 699 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: which direction I wanted to go. And then after losing 700 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: to Canelo, I'm like, you know, I go from place 701 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: to place, stop to stop like a tour, so you 702 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: know I could right that wrong and you know, get 703 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: back at Canelo. But it's also like a representation in life. 704 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: You know, it's not really just about my boxing career, 705 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: but from where I started in life. You know, things 706 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: that I've been through, and you know, going from each 707 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: place stop to stop, so I can, you know, get 708 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: my revenge on life and not not not end up 709 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: where I started, you know, make a better way for 710 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: my family, make a better way for my children. And 711 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like we can all relate to that. 712 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: You know, we've all been told no, we've all been 713 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: told we can't accomplish this or that because of what 714 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: we look like or where we're from, and you know 715 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: that motivates us to go out there and be like, no, 716 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my revenge. I'm gonna show you what 717 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: I can do. I'm gonna show you how far I 718 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 4: can run it up and take it. And so it's 719 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: not just about my boxing career, but it's about life 720 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: in general. You know, we've all had those things where 721 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: we can relate to that. 722 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: So, you know, suffering the loss obviously you've experienced that 723 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: big and big profile fights. What would you say to 724 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 5: aj after the big upset loss against uh Do? Why 725 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: this past weekend? 726 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Just you know, take a little time for your family. 727 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: And then. 728 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: He seems really motivated to keep going. He's already made 729 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: like two statements I think, So just get back in 730 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: the gym, you know, get back in the lab, get 731 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: back to work, you know, work on some of those 732 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: mistakes you were making, and uh come back. 733 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: You know. 734 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of fighters in this era 735 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: when they lose, I don't know if they read too 736 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: much into social media and read too many comments and 737 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: start believing. 738 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: What people people. But that's just always been weird to me. 739 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 4: Like with Canelo, you know, I'll come back to real 740 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: even this fight, you know, come back it's like I 741 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: haven't really lost any confidence because it's like that's not 742 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: really how boxing works. You know, if you're a real 743 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: student of the game, and you look back through history, 744 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: like all the top fighters have uh, you know, loss 745 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: and someone like aj who's win against you know, Big 746 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: Smoke throughout his career, a lot of big time fighters. 747 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes that's going to happen. And it's like 748 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: going to a national tournament as an amateur. You may 749 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: pull up and you think you're gonna win the whole 750 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: national tournament. You may lose in the quarterfinals, semi finals 751 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: for the first day, but then when you show up 752 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: to the next national tournament, you're like, I'm gonna win this. 753 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, these dudes beat me. 754 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: Do you think he could be three time world champion again, 755 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: Anthony Joshua. 756 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't put it past them. And I 757 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: think that the wilder fighters a lot more interesting now, 758 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: you know. 759 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, I think after this last. 760 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: Weekend or you know, whenever you thought, yeah Saturday, I 761 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: think it's back interesting again, you know, after. 762 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: Both of them losing. I guess that's that's what people 763 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 5: are basing it on in that fight that people always wanted. 764 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I never understood like a fighter losing one 765 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: time and then he's like ruined for forever. 766 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Like how could you. 767 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a new era, you know, because back in 768 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 5: the eighties and nineties that yeah. 769 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe exist. 770 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: I think it's how you lose. 771 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: That's a big part too, not just about how you 772 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: lose for sure. 773 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 6: Like we watched him lose really bad to Ruise, really 774 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 6: bad to Dubois. Like Usic's fights was cool, right, but 775 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 6: those were some you're not You're not supposed to lose 776 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 6: that bad to Ruiz and Duba. 777 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, even though he lost them the 778 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: way he did, it wasn't like a twelve round butt 779 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: whooping where he's just like. 780 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: Was clearly out class for the whole fight. 781 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: You know, it's like he's doing pretty good or it's 782 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: kind of even maybe he's up a little bit, and 783 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 4: all of a sudden he gets caught with the big 784 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 4: shot and he can't recover. 785 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: Dubai was a butt kicking from beginning. 786 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: I didn't see the fight, but from the get go, it. 787 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 6: Was oh from the oh yeah, from hunt. 788 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 5: It was just that he didn't recover from the first knockdown. 789 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: Seemed like he was tired and sluggish clinching. It wasn't 790 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 5: like an onslaught, but it just he wasn't there. Well, 791 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 5: so you've seen the clip though, the knockout. 792 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen the clip, and I was like, man, 793 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: he didn't hit him that hard, like, but I guess 794 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: he had been dropped before fifty pounds. 795 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: He had already been dropped though, and so he was hurt. 796 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: So three times before, right, Yeah, he got dropped three 797 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: times before that. 798 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. 799 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: Are there any active fighters the day that motivates you? 800 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a I'm a boxing fan. So 801 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: you know, people like Terrence Crawford and you know, even 802 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: Aero Spence. You know, he's a hell He's a hell 803 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 4: of a fighter, great fighter and a crazy hard worker. 804 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: I like, of course Stevenson some of these some of 805 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: these people do not like each other at all, So 806 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 4: I like Cassing, but they're all my friends. 807 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: So, but Devon's a great fighter. Schcor's a great fighter. 808 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 4: Javonte, Terrence Crawford, Usick, Fury, Boots, Tennis uh, Stephan Folm, Scooter. 809 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 4: It was a long list of Guy. 810 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 5: Erro though, because because of that one loss against Bud, 811 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 5: it seems like everybody's writing a more flout. Even though 812 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: he's a hell of a fighter, he's a great fighter 813 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 5: Canelo Canelo. I mean, sorry, Bud has been won in 814 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 5: a Canelo fight. Obviously you've seen it all over. How 815 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 5: does that fight play out? 816 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. 817 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 4: I think, uh, some people like one hundred percent write 818 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: it off after the Israel fight. But that people again, 819 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: some people I've seen quite a few comments calling him 820 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: a bum leading up to the fight, but he was 821 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: Bilbil's leaves sparing partner for Canelo when bivi Canelo, and 822 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 4: if he's sparring Bil the whole camp. 823 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 824 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 5: It's a decorated amateur that suppose got over. 825 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: Three hundred fights. Like I said, it's popularity contest. 826 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: So now maybe he, uh, with a little more activity, 827 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 4: he would have looked different in that fight, or maybe 828 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 4: stylistically he just didn't want to take as many chances. 829 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 4: But Terrence definitely won that fight and even started to 830 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: pull away in the end. 831 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 5: I thought, and I didn't think it was that close 832 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: to the way people said. I just didn't think, imagine 833 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 5: WF landed any really significant shots outside of the job 834 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 5: I thought Bud landed. 835 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Indeed. 836 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 3: Indeed, well, Caleb gotta go, guys, you got a question. 837 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was back when you talk about motivation. I 838 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 7: saw that you had posted the girl dad sneakers or 839 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 7: the fight the fighting shoes, the Kobe's talk about like 840 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 7: Kobe as a motivation because you talked about a lot 841 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 7: of boxers, but like you specifically said, he gave you 842 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 7: motivation for years. Oh yeah, So what what was that 843 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 7: motivation specifically? Like what from Kobe inspired you in your fights? 844 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: Well, just like since I was a kid, like feeling 845 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: like studying the greats, you know, great to be great, 846 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: to be successful, you know, you got to be intentional, 847 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: and so just taking time to watch like every YouTube 848 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 4: video I could on certain certain athletes, certain coaches, certain artists, 849 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: and you know, Kobe's dedication and sacrifice that he made 850 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 4: to get to where he got, you know, that's something 851 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 4: you got to tip your hat to and respect. And so, uh, 852 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 4: just watching a lot of his motivational videos over the 853 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 4: years and studying things that he implemented into, whether it 854 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 4: be physical recovery, his nutrition, what you know, numerous different 855 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 4: things like that. Uh, and want to put that my 856 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: arsenal in, you know, so that I can try and 857 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 4: be the best athlete I can. 858 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Uh. 859 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, He's given me a lot of motivation. And then 860 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: obviously with Charlie and Aliyah and then the girl dad 861 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: who coming out. You know, I felt like could be 862 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: perfect timing too, you know, put all that together. 863 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 5: Before you get out here. One last question, if you 864 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 5: can name your next three opponents with you know, no stipulations, 865 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 5: you you know, in in that order. 866 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: Who would they be in order? 867 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlo or Berlanga and then the other one after that, 868 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 4: and then Canela. 869 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Charlo Berlanga, Canelo. 870 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 4: Yeah or Berlango, Charloe Canelo, one of them or any 871 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 4: any three order, but those three. It could be in 872 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: any order. 873 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: Okay, leb. We appreciate you for joining this this morning. 874 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Caleb Plant. 875 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, thank you. 876 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 877 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. 878 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 4: M hm.