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Speaker 1: you today? I am wonderful Blue. How are you, sir man?

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Speaker 1: This guy Freddie stage assists next to me, wears a

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Speaker 1: these hats well you know, and he wears them wells guys,

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's nice to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show, Freddie. And first of all, you know, I

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Speaker 1: off with I think the Fox Firm, right, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like the Fox Firm is the first of Freddie,

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Speaker 1: It started out in Coulver City. We are now in

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Speaker 1: It was weird how I just did both of those.

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Speaker 1: things that nature. And the team that I brought in

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Speaker 1: So it's Cannabis Talk one and when we're right back

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Speaker 1: into this break, we'll be right back with Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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442
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Speaker 1: you know the journey that you've actually been on and

443
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Speaker 1: you're talking about. I've got to kind of live it,

444
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: so I don't want to just curve it into it

445
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: and jump all over because I know so much of it.

446
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: I've seen you know, you and Alanto before it was

447
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: like and everybody was like, is this really gonna go legal? Here? Like,

448
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's gonna happen. This guy, Freddie

449
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: is talking all this game and I've heard, you know,

450
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: both sides that I've heard, you know, the side where

451
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: it's like you guys, you guys are like, yeah, we're

452
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: gonna get this done. And then I'm like asking people

453
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: in the city council and they're like, we don't know,

454
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: and we'll see. And then actually to Fruition watching it

455
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: really get done and going Damn, they fucking did it,

456
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: you know. So so go back to your story and

457
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: talking about it, because again, like I said, I know

458
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: so much of the story, then it's like I love it.

459
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I still like you. Yeah, because

460
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't do it, it would have been like, oh,

461
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: that guy's a clown. You know. I went up there

462
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: and are on the verge of bankruptcy, and the problem

463
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: was is that they didn't own money. So you can

464
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: file bankruptcy, you've gotta have a debt filed bankruptcy. They

465
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: just couldn't make enough money. They brought in prisons, They

466
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: brought in a large scale manufacturing on really good deals,

467
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: and they thought that people will start to get good

468
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: jobs there and start to build homes and shop there.

469
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: And that never really happened. So they had about ninety days.

470
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Speaker 1: And so when I pitched it to the city councilman,

471
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not here for dispensaries, and I know

472
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: you don't want them, because I don't want them either.

473
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: We're here, and I explained to him a whole another program.

474
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Speaker 1: This is commercial cultivation. Before anybody heard of commercial cultivation,

475
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: when I was doing commercial in cannabis, when when you know,

476
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: they only heard when when Rex six plants type of

477
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: situation when Mike started to explain to him the potential

478
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: and jobs and growth and marketing, cultivation and the security

479
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: and that you'll never see us. You don't see cannabis grows.

480
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: It's not something that's gonna be on main Street, that

481
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: soccer mom drive bynd you know why is this in

482
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: our city? And um, he said, well, it was about

483
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: the political ramifications. And I explained to myself ninety days

484
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna disband, you're gonna bankrupt, and you're not gonna

485
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: have a city council job. So I am your best

486
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: shot at it. So I spent the next year going

487
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: to city council meetings. Every city council meeting. When I

488
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: first got there was me and some one guy because

489
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: it's a drive through desert town that had no yeah,

490
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: and it was like me and one guy complaining that

491
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: he got a code violation over tumbleweed. And really that

492
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: was the extent of the city council met It was

493
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Speaker 1: five minutes in and out, boom done. And so every

494
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Speaker 1: week I'd bring in um from patients, veterans, entrepreneurs, investors

495
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: and sillery companies restaurants that said that will come start

496
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: building restaurants if if these guys come in and then

497
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: every week and went from like ten people forty people too,

498
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: then cameras outside, then Mormon protesters, the media, and it

499
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: was it was crazy. Then city council and getting arrested.

500
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: He was all kinds of yeah, it was, it was crazy,

501
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: but um, it got done. It got done, and we

502
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: brought in a half a billion dollars in economic activity

503
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: of that city. Man. Congratulations on that man. And you

504
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: know it's funny is that that brought the city out

505
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: of bears right and banking out of bankruptcy. Um, they

506
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: had ten businesses that had one business license in ten

507
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: years actually filed right. And I think in our first year,

508
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: five hundred corporations started the city bout Alanta. Our first

509
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: year five hundred and now we've we have restaurants and

510
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: everything is flourishing out there. All the property values have

511
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: gone up. They every home, so they got hit by

512
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Speaker 1: the economic procession. So half of their homes that building

513
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: for buildings, they just abandoned them because it's you know,

514
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: seven whatever the case, maybe we're just too expensive to

515
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: finish off. So they just abandoned. So you saw all

516
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: these half built homes, and uh, as soon as we

517
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: passed this thing, those homes got built. Every home got

518
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: sold out. They pre selling homes a year in advance

519
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: in the city by Atlanta, And then we did the

520
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: same for the state. The stadium is going bankrupt, I said,

521
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: let's come in there. We got a licensed we brought

522
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: in cannabis events and uh, one year, we brought more

523
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: people into that statement than they've ever had in the

524
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Speaker 1: thirty years of their existence in total. So we brought

525
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: in the cush doctor about the high times. We brought

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: in all the Cali parties and things, you know. And

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00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: let me ask you, what do you what are your thoughts,

528
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: like you know on that city. I mean, is it

529
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna you know, keep driving and growing or do you

530
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: think it's because I mean there's talking about you know,

531
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: more more growth there. Is it something that's gonna just

532
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of pick up and build all the way into

533
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: Vegas or is it something that's just gonna kind of

534
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: level off in the cannabis industry and it's leveled off

535
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: like like most other cities have. When we were the

536
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: first to come out, I mean, you're talking every jungle

537
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Boys were there on the first day. All the big

538
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: boys were there because those guys never knew where they'll

539
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: ever land. And so being the first, all the other

540
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: cities sat there and watched us to see how it went.

541
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: And it was funny because we end up getting an

542
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: election and our guys, like you know, barely won the

543
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: last time, and they had like nine you know success

544
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: because of cannabis. So every other politician ran out there

545
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we're doing this. So the thing was

546
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: is this is their growth spurt was huge because you know,

547
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: they're the one of the first cities. Everybody ran up there.

548
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: But now just like other cities and no one's really

549
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: you know, the guys that are growers kind of about

550
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: their grow and have invested in the grow and they're

551
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: out there. Um the guys that are really doing it

552
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: are doing it. When the city's come on board, you're

553
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: looking at um less of the you know, bright eyed

554
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna be a cannabis air, you know what

555
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not in this state that I don't

556
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: see them that often. Like my office, I mean, you

557
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: have to take a line, you have to take a

558
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: number to stand outside of my office during this the spurt,

559
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, um that period of time.

560
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: So I don't believe that. I believe it's gonna get stabilized.

561
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: The problem is is um legalization and legislation and the

562
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: red tape and bureauxy and over taxing is destroying the

563
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: entire market. Guys right now are bleeding out. There are

564
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: farm shutting down every single day all across California. You

565
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: can't sell you know, indoor flower for a thousand dollars

566
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: that cost you one thousand, That's what I'm saying. Why

567
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: is the price getting so hammered because of the illegal market.

568
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: With six was passed, they were going to give a

569
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: certain set window for small grows twenty two thousand and

570
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: you're done. Well, immediately they lobbied out of it, and

571
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, how they have mega grows. So

572
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: what was happening is is during the first phase of things,

573
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: so that that that whole thing about the big grows

574
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: are they're there here dump everybody, they're here, and the

575
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: problems there's a massive oversupply. So so what happened was

576
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: is everybody was still building their growths and so you

577
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: had a nice run at it. Then all of a sudden,

578
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand lighters will start dropping flour, you

579
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, twenty thousand pounds per facility and

580
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: um and Santa Barbara County has you know, ten thousand

581
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: of them and one dispension in the whole county. Sure

582
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: do you have a serious problem. And the other issue

583
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: is is this is you can't tax. You know, really

584
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: it's about fifty pc by ton of said enough, because

585
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: you tax every single step of this thing. By time

586
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: the consumer gets it's at fifty they're paying between the

587
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: time the retailer and they walk out the door. You're

588
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: talking about cultivation tax, attraction taxs, trim tax, um unions,

589
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. So one, at a certain point

590
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: is just easier and cheaper to get to the black market.

591
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: And two, it's very, very difficult to sustain losses for

592
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: small farms and small companies to survive. It's just too difficult.

593
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because I'm talking to people and

594
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: they're like, dude, you know, prices are crazy right now,

595
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: and this and that, and I've been saying this for

596
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: a long time, you know, and and it's it's it's

597
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: it's good to see the things that you say, come

598
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: when they come real, but when they do, no one

599
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: ever remembers you saying it. And at the end of

600
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: the day, it doesn't matter. But the worst part is

601
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: that people are getting hurt is that I'm like, look,

602
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: when big, big money comes in, whether it's big pharma,

603
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: or big corporations or or just big you know, entrepreneurs

604
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: that have the ability to to really scale something like

605
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: this out. You know what, dude, they're willing to take

606
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: a losses to crack you out the game, you know

607
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I was like, you know, I

608
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: was telling somebody, I said, listen, I talked to a

609
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: group of investors and from China and they said, you know,

610
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna make uh cannabis for fifty cents of Graham

611
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, cents a gram. It's like yes,

612
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: he goes, well, how do you do that? You know

613
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: it's impossible, and like, no, it's not. And they're talking

614
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: about just this huge scaling you know facility right that

615
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: breaks it all down and just monitor you know, breaks

616
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: the whole the structural down, and it's like fifty cents

617
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: of Graham. And then they said, well, if we can't

618
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: get it quite so low, which we believe we can.

619
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Then we will sell it for a price anyways until

620
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: everybody's out of our way, and then we'll turn the

621
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: price up. And I was like wow. He's like, yes,

622
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: we'll take a ten years of losses to get everybody,

623
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: to get everybody out of our way. And I'm like,

624
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: so you're gonna lose money for ten years. Ten years

625
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: you're willing to lose money and just get smashed and

626
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: then so that all these other companies can't compete with you,

627
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: and then you're just gonna come roll over. Everybody is like, yes,

628
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: everybody will want to sell their business to us. We'll

629
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: take their businesses from there. We'll then control the market

630
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: and the pricing and we will still win. And I'm like, oh, ship,

631
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: it's a war. Is war? You know what I'm saying?

632
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: This is not just growing weed and who grows the

633
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: best weed. We're talking about business war. It's the disgusting

634
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: side of what I also have to see is I

635
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: came from a historical cultural part of this plan, do

636
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I've worked with all the

637
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: cultural guys and have a deep, deep, deep respect to

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Speaker 1: the plant, to their business, to their sex. Because I

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Speaker 1: saw the guys having to take those risks driving from

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Speaker 1: North Kyle down, you know what I mean, Like those

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00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: were the guys who you've done yourself, must be honest,

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00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: tough months so so um to see doing it. It

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Speaker 1: is I would say, what these corporations come in and

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00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: do that. It's devastating. But but I will tell you

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00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a shining light about that, as I think this plant

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: is also magical, and I think the plant knows its owner.

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Speaker 1: And I have seen more hedge funds, institutional investors and

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00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: money guys eat ship because they tried to make it

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Speaker 1: a commodity business. Like you know, here's the thing. One

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Speaker 1: celebrity weed doesn't do good. We people ain't buying no

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Speaker 1: weed from a celebrity. I don't need a celebrity because

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Speaker 1: I'll open up that jar. I go fun your celebrity. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can do that with makeup. I can do that

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Speaker 1: with clone. I could do a headphones. I could do

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Speaker 1: with cell phones. You know what shocks new shoe, Yeah

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00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: that's a better shoe. Nobody wants shocks weed. Nobody wants

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00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: snoop sweed. As a matter of fact, nobody wants any

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00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: of their weed. You know who'se weed? They want, They

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Speaker 1: want the old school grower that they know, that they follow,

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Speaker 1: that they understand. You can only sell them bad weed

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Speaker 1: once and you're done on the social media. So these

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Speaker 1: corporate guys, how about how about Ignite? You lost a

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Speaker 1: hunt a million bucks? Yeah, quick quick, it wasn't his cars,

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Speaker 1: wasn't his house. All that right, nobody's buying weak because

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Speaker 1: you told him by weed. But he's still pushing it though, right, No,

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Speaker 1: he's pushing vape. No, not not vape, nicotine, vapes, these disposables.

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Speaker 1: But the Ignite. Yeah, but he I'm out of the

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Speaker 1: weed business. Too tough for me. Cannabis should be. So

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Speaker 1: I called us a Walmart Walmartization of America. So Walmart

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: will come to a small city and put out the floors,

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Speaker 1: put out the uh, put out a hundred businesses. Now

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: they go back and they hire the parents who used

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Speaker 1: to have a bakery or a chicken place or whatever

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00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: they or pizza parlor. Right, and they pay them. They

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: came thirty nine hours so that they don't have to

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Speaker 1: give them healthcare, do you know what I mean? And

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00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: so now all of a sudden, you have, you know,

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: a city that kind of gets wiped out no one

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00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: gets to make money, no one gets to have a legacy,

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: none of the kids inherit ship. And so this is

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Speaker 1: what needs to be stopped in cannabis, because you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have a walmartization of cannabis. You should have thousands and

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Speaker 1: thousands of small businesses, have everybody to get their little

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Speaker 1: hustle on. Just save this industry for once, for the people.

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Speaker 1: Just one industry. You have every other industry to bring

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Speaker 1: out to do your business things. Just save this for

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Speaker 1: a bunch of small people to live. Thank you everybody

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Speaker 1: in this room. Do you know what I mean? Should

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Speaker 1: have a little piece and an ability to make something

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Speaker 1: out of it. You know what? Check this out, Freddie.

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Speaker 1: I want to keep you on the show and and

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Speaker 1: and and bring you back tomorrow. Is that okay? If

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Speaker 1: we do another show with you tomorrow too, because I

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Speaker 1: need you. I need to to to finish the story

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Speaker 1: about White Angel. And I also want to go into

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Speaker 1: obviously the green holding things. So it's Cannabis Talk one.

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Speaker 1: I want to remember this. If no one else loves you,

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Speaker 1: we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one

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