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Speaker 1: it says it's time to go. Hi, everyone, My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. This is episode fifty eight of in fact,

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Speaker 1: the Luke Thomas Live Chat. A lot to get to today,

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Speaker 1: very excited about everything. We'll get to let's see the

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Speaker 1: Canelo fight. Well, we still have some UFC two fifty

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Speaker 1: have a question, of course, could should have got it

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Speaker 1: in already. And I'll get to the ones that you

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Speaker 1: did on the community tab at YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat and if you want to, you know, watch

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Speaker 1: that'd be great and give some feedback, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: All right, without further ado, let's get this party star ted,

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Speaker 1: shall we? All right, Hi, everybody, before we go any further,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to the video, or I should say thumbs

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Speaker 1: up and subscribe to the video. Do all that fun

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Speaker 1: stuff A bit of a programming note. I think this

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Speaker 1: put it on more in combat. We'll see. I got

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Speaker 1: a copy or I shouldn't say a copy, but a

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Speaker 1: I got a delivery. Now I had to pay for these.

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Speaker 1: No one gave it to me, but I've got some

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Speaker 1: of the Dustin Poirier hot sauce. This is from Heat

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Speaker 1: to this Heat onst. These are the folks who are

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Speaker 1: involved with the show. Well, I should say, you ever

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Speaker 1: doing a regular MK. Yeah, all right, let's get this going,

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Speaker 1: right or doom, don't doom doom? Okay? First question, producer, director, musician,

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Speaker 1: Go to Christmas songs? What a great question. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: your weight on it, how hard could it really be.

425
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure hard, but you know, I think even he

426
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: would tell you that's not even close to his hardest punch,

427
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: So that to me makes it categorically different. It looks similar. Wow,

428
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: he gets finished while being on top. Okay, fine, but

429
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: it's not the same. You know, I don't think I've

430
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: ever seen someone finished like that, And you know, I'm

431
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: not Kuposa, a Gribacca hit man, but I watch a

432
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: shitload of MMA, and that is exponentially rare. Getting upkicked

433
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: is rare, but not exponentially. Would Tony have been stopped

434
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: by Charles if the arm bar happened earlier in the round,

435
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: what would the outcome have been? I doubt Tony would

436
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: have ever tapped, But do you think Charles would have

437
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: broken his arm and caused the ref to stop the fight? Yes,

438
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: that to me is what would have happened. So you

439
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: can see Olivera achieves him out, and I went through

440
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: it on my last episode of technical difficulties. You can

441
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: see that Olivera takes him ount and then basically throws

442
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: an elbow, And if you watch my explanation you'll see

443
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: I can't tell if he throws the elbow as a

444
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: decoy to help him chair sit closer to the back

445
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: of Tony's head so that he can sit for the

446
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: arm bar without much more movement, because it places him

447
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: exactly where he needs to be, or if there was

448
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: somehow it was obstructed. It's kind of hard to tell,

449
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: but in any case, he does in fact move closer.

450
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: He kind of chair sits halfway, puts his knee behind

451
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: the back of the head of Tony. So when he

452
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: wants to swing for the arm bar, he doesn't have

453
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: to swing from Tony's hips. He's now behind the head,

454
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: so he has to do the qrkscrew. It's very, very

455
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: economical motion. And then he does it. But he did

456
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: it towards the end of a round, so that if

457
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: it failed, how bad could the consequences before it failing?

458
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Not too bad? Right, That's sort of the thinking there, Well,

459
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: what would he have done if it had been sooner?

460
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: My thought is, you know, I watched Tim Sylvia versus

461
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Frank mir live and that was different because when Sylvia

462
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: got his arm broken, it was broken here in the

463
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: middle of the forearm, not here, not here, but here

464
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: in the middle of the forearm, like this space, and

465
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: you could see the bone not it doesn't come through

466
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: the skin, but you can see it. How do I

467
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: explain it? It's like if this is the skin of

468
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: a shirt, or this is the skin, right, so I

469
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: got a beer shirt. Here, this is the skin. Do

470
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: you see the arm bar? And then you see Sylvia's

471
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: bones go like this like they punch through, not through,

472
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: but they push on the skin and you can see

473
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: referee Herb Dean see it, and you can see him

474
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: freak out and intervene. I mean, this is sort of

475
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: what happened between Rhonda and Misha Tate. Right where the arm.

476
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: She may have tapped or something, but it was at

477
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: least one or one of the first or second time.

478
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember where the arm is so badly mangled.

479
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: The referee just intervenes when he's when he tucked it

480
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: behind the head like that, behind the arm. Excuse me

481
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: that that there was only one way that was going

482
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: to go. He had tight control over Tony's face. He

483
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: had tight control of the arm. You know. I tend

484
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: to think he would just would have it would have

485
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: kept going, and the referee would have intervened. I I

486
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing he would have survived. I

487
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: also have a hard time believing that Tony would have tapped.

488
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, if the referee sees that it has bent

489
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: to all kinds of a fucked up degree and he

490
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: thinks it's you know, medically, this is a time to intervene.

491
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: He can and I think that's probably what would have happened.

492
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 1: Am I wrong in thinking the UFC's walterweight division is overrated.

493
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: Probably the top three made their names off of wins

494
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: over Woodley, Maya and Rda, and to a certain extent,

495
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Gunner Nelson to steal a lucism if I may in

496
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: my opinion, and I don't suggest that this should be

497
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: your opinion. Just to myself, what I would say is

498
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: that these wins have not aged well. No, I'm I

499
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: would need you to flesh out this question a little

500
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: bit more. I don't quite I mean, I sort of

501
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: know what you're getting at, but there's missing pieces of

502
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 1: the argument to make, so I'm not exactly sure how

503
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: to answer it. I don't think that what you have

504
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: asked me, in the way that you've asked it is

505
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: sufficient for me to conclude that one is overrated. Hi,

506
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: Luke Olivera dominated Tony Ferguson, and people are saying that

507
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: he is Habib's toughest test and could beat him. But

508
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: the same thing was said before every Habib opponent, and

509
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: then the fight is dominated by Habib. Yes, that is true. Mostly.

510
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I think all the top five lightweights could could each

511
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: beat each other on any given day, but Habib dominates

512
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: them all. I don't think that's crazy. I said it before. Man,

513
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: it was so weird, right. The one thing I can

514
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: say about Habib And who'd I say this to? I

515
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: think I even said it two dust and when I

516
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: interviewed him, which is man, I can't say how many

517
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: times I've done tape study on his opponents. There like, Okay,

518
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: here's how his opponents, over the course of their careers

519
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: have handled certain situations, being pressed against the fence, firing

520
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: under hooks to stand, you know, hitting peekouts or whatever,

521
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the situation might be, and they do

522
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: it against their opposition. You're like, okay, well, these guys

523
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: aren't as good as Habib, but you know it might

524
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: tell us something. And then they go up against Habib

525
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: and it tells you nothing. It was as if the

526
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: competition was irrelevant. I mean, you know, it's not irrelevant.

527
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: You know those guys are really good. But at the

528
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: same time, I mean, Jesus Christ, Man, you know, there's

529
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: a there's how you performed in these scenarios before Habib,

530
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: and then there's how you performed in these scenarios, you know,

531
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: with him up in your grill, and they are just

532
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: two distinct universes. Man, I don't think it's an idle

533
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: question to wonder how a guy like OLIVERA who has

534
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: just dramatically improved his submission game. Oh sorry, what am

535
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I saying is striking game. Who's got a very willing

536
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: and capable submission game, both on top and underneath, and

537
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: then more to that, like very strategic sense of how

538
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: to apply it. He doesn't rush anything. I mean, he

539
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: might jump on a guillotine if it's you know, he

540
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: really likes his likes the moment, but like he didn't

541
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: go for the arm bar Antoni until the end of

542
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: the first He didn't really get the guillotine on Kevin

543
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: until what the third or fourth round. He took his time.

544
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: He took his time, you know, And I think that

545
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: really gives you gives me more confidence in his abilities

546
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: to find the opening when the opening is right, versus

547
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: before he would maybe kind of force it or try

548
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: it and it didn't work, and then he'd be in

549
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a bad spot. He seemed to be much more just

550
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: understanding again when to press the gas pedal, when to

551
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: hit the brake pedal. Still, you're right, man, It's like

552
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: every time you watch someone, especially the late version of Abib,

553
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: he had some close rounds, and he's had some tough fights,

554
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: but you know, the last run that he was on,

555
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: he was fucking crushing these guys. Man, he had gotten

556
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: significantly better form how good he already was, he'd gotten

557
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: way way better. So you know, we'll never know, I guess,

558
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: but I think that it's an interesting thing to consider.

559
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: But I'll say it again, like I said at the time,

560
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't really believe in my heart of hearts, there's

561
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a lightweight who can beat him. Dan Hooker mentioned the

562
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: other day that Tony has been losing because he's a crowdfighter,

563
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: and his only losses have been during the pandemic. Well

564
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: that's only losses, but his last two. Anyway, do you

565
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: think there's any truth to that? Yes, I absolute there's

566
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: truth to it. I mean, folks, you heard justin Gage

567
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: say how much better he performed because there was no crowd.

568
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: He could stay calm, he didn't get caught up in

569
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: the energy of the yelling and the screaming. He had

570
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: a great connection with his coach. His coach was able

571
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: to like talk to him more readily. Some fighters, you

572
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: can clearly see, benefit substantially from there being no audience,

573
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: right well, why can't the opposite be true? If there

574
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: are fighters who clearly benefit from there being no audience,

575
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't it stand to reason that there are going to

576
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: be fighters who are the exact opposite, who are lifted

577
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: by the crowd, who are more at home with the crowd,

578
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: who may just be more used to it. I mean,

579
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: they'll be competing that way all their lives, and now

580
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's been taken away. I have honestly,

581
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: we should probably talk more about that. I mean, I

582
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: don't know how influential role, and I don't really think

583
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: that's why he lost these two last two fights. I mean,

584
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I think the reason why he lost the last two

585
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: probably just has more to do with the current state

586
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: of the division and where he fits into it. But

587
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: am I sympathetic to the idea that maybe these would

588
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: have been closer fights on some level if there was

589
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: an audience there, Yes, totally. I don't know why that's

590
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: that should not be controversial, you know, I think some

591
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: people might say, Okay, it's a little bit and you know,

592
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: give someone a little bit of a of an extra nod.

593
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's very hard to debate how much.

594
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: But I do think that, you know, everyone is perfectly

595
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: willing to say, hey, there are certain fighters, excuse me,

596
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: certain fighters who just perform so well when there's no crowd. Well,

597
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't the opposite be true. I do think he would

598
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: feed off the crowd. I do think he gets kind

599
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: of amped. I do think he loves having a being

600
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: an entertainer and then feeling all those things. And he

601
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: came out flat. You know, he even said he came

602
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: out flat. Is the fact that there's no audience cheering

603
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: him on. I mean, he also won the Ultimate Fighter,

604
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: so you know, you have to kind of take it

605
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: with a grid of a grain of salt. But that

606
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: was also much earlier in his career, and blah blah blah.

607
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, so, yeah, I believe it at this at

608
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: this stage in his career. I believe that it plays

609
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: a role. I do. Next question is pretty similar, Yeah,

610
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: same question. You spoke about Tony not doing the level

611
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: changes or rolling his fists before the fight, and he

612
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: said himself, it's not the same without the fans, right,

613
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the vast difference of fighting in front

614
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: of thousands of people compared to just a handful. How

615
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: much you believe that can affect the fighter like Tony.

616
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing I have to think about

617
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Tony like, and this was the lesson I sort of

618
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: came to when you watch he did get dominated in

619
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: that fight. I know he doesn't like for people to

620
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: say that, and I'm sure he disagrees. And that's okay.

621
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: You know, everyone's including him. He's allowed to have his

622
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: own take on it. We're allowed to have arts, and

623
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: that's just the world. But I said this before, like

624
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: to me, I wasn't and I'm not going to argue

625
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: that there is a massive downgrade. I don't think. I mean,

626
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: that could be true, but I don't know if there's

627
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: enough evidence to conclude that just yet. The way I

628
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: look at it is there's clearly something missing from the

629
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: high point. Now. The reason why there might have dramatic

630
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: effects with any kind of decline, even a small one,

631
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: is that the division is so deep and so difficult

632
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: that if you're not firing on all cylinders in the

633
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: way that you're supposed to, any drop off, even a

634
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: fairly modest one from your peak, is going to have

635
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: really profound consequences. That's sort of how I look at it,

636
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: because if you watch the third round, he gets taken

637
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: down and he gets mounted, but he tries to dars.

638
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: He nearly escapes a couple of times. He didn't get

639
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: hit too badly in that third round, Like, even after

640
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: nearly getting his arm broken, he managed to minimize a

641
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of the more damaging aspects to what Charles Olavera

642
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: was doing. Now, he didn't have much of an answer

643
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: for the control, but he did have a pretty good

644
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: answer for not taking a beating, Like and mentally, what

645
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: does that say about someone after you really getting your

646
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: arm completely fucking broken. That's pretty admirable. I mean, it

647
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: wasn't enough to win the round, not even close, but

648
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: you know that kind of that kind of hustle, that

649
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: kind of where with all that kind of determination to

650
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: fight it out. It's like, I'm not ready to throw

651
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: Tony away, and I don't think you should be either.

652
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying it's a substantial down grade. I'm

653
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: saying just a little tick, just a difference like that

654
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: in terms of the outcome could be like that. I mean,

655
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: there's huge amounts of differences because everyone else is making

656
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: these incremental gains. Everyone else is you know, it's hungry

657
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: for these opportunities and hasn't been there yet. You know,

658
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be really, I mean, any slight opening,

659
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna take advantage of it. And I think he

660
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: lacked a little he lacked a little something something right.

661
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: It was it was Tony in many ways and it

662
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the full el Ku Kui experience. And

663
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of the difference. There was

664
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: the Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde. Uh, and you got

665
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: the tamer of the two, which is still good enough

666
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: to not get finished against Charles Olvera at his very best,

667
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: but you wonder like what the full Manti would have

668
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: been in terms of his overall ability. So it's it's

669
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: a hard needle to thread because you're saying, oh, there's

670
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: a real difference, and there is, but it's not so

671
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: pronounced that you can clearly identify. Okay, you know, Bjpen,

672
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: you can really identify the differences. You know they're there.

673
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: You're talking about, I mean an exponential drop off. You're

674
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: not really talking about that with Tony when Tony says

675
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: stuff like you know he mainly broke in the first round, Well,

676
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: not him, but Charles Olvera. You know that's a hard

677
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: statement to defend. But when he talks about certain other

678
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: things in that fight that he saw and that he

679
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: felt I watched the video, he wasn't he wasn't altogether wrong,

680
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: you know. And he was talking about all that Darsa

681
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: tried to lock up. It should have gone for the

682
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: bolt cutter, and blah blah blah blah blah. Like you know,

683
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: there are reasons to believe that the whatever he's experiencing,

684
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: there's no way for me to say that's the same Tony.

685
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: But it's still very premature to say exactly where it's

686
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: all headed. I think that's my point. Oh, well, that

687
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: means it's the end. He'll never be a contender again. Well,

688
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly has his work cut out for him.

689
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: That much is true. I would be a little bit

690
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: cautious in saying that we know exactly how bad it is,

691
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: and we know exactly where it's all headed. That much

692
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: is that much is still quite up in the air.

693
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: And do I think that the lack of crowds has

694
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: contributed to it? Of course, of course. Do you think

695
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: Poirier's improved fundamental boxing ability will have effectively closed the

696
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: gap between he and McGregor, which was clearly demonstrated in

697
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: the first fight. All other differentials aside. Also, what benefits

698
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: do you think the stance which it could have in

699
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: Poitier's favor. Here, Teddy Atlas often refers to the straight

700
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: right hand of an Orthodox fighter as the south Paul killer,

701
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: but as far as that pertains to McGregor, at least

702
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: in pure mma, he seems almost instinctively tuned to react

703
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: at counter right hands right. Well, the right hand is

704
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the South Paul killer, but the left hand is the

705
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Orthodox killer because you're you know, whoever has the lead

706
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: outside foot position in that case, in most cases is

707
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the one who's going to do the most damage. Otherwise,

708
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: we saw against Paria Hooker you could have the lead

709
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: inside foot position and still cracking with the left. So

710
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, sometime you're gonna play with the rules alter

711
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. But to me, there's no denying that

712
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Parier's offensive boxing. And you'd be like, well, isn't boxing

713
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: always offensive? No? I mean there's obviously a ton of

714
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: boxing that has you know, defense built into it or

715
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: certain considerations footwork, trunk movements, you know, hand trapping, you know,

716
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: parrying and rolling and all kinds of stuff, but his

717
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: offensive boxing has just been massively cleaned up. It's so

718
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: much better. His shot selection is better, his distance management

719
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: is better, his footwork is better. But one of the

720
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: things that got him in trouble in the first one

721
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: is going to be something he's gonna have to look

722
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: out for this time too. Not nearly as pronounced, but

723
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: definitely something that has to go into consideration, which is

724
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Connor's accuracy is never better than in the first or

725
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: second round. I mean, he is so dialed in and

726
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: his shot selection and his range management, and his willingness

727
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: and ability to set traps and to create scenarios conducive

728
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: to what he wants to do. You know, he's so

729
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: good and willing to pull the trigger on them early.

730
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: I would say that Poirier is much more dangerous a

731
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: little bit later. Now, if you're totally overmatched, Parier will

732
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: run your ass over quickly. But I don't think Connor's

733
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: really overmatched. It seems like it's it's a pretty even

734
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: match in many ways, so to me, I also think

735
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: that Poorier's defensive boxing has gotten a lot better. But

736
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: the record shows what the record shows, which is against

737
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: lead opposition. Even when he wins, he gets tagged a

738
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: little bit early and then overcomes it a little bit late,

739
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: or at least does his better work a little bit later.

740
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's early his round two, but often, to me

741
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: this one, if he's able to get past the first two,

742
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I think that's what he may. You may see the

743
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: tie turn, assuming he isn't, you know, leading from them.

744
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean, here's how I kind of think it will go.

745
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: If Connor is gonna win, he's gonna win inside two.

746
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: And if Pori is gonna win, he's gonna win inside five,

747
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: maybe to a maybe to a decision, but probably inside

748
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: three or four. And he could polish off Connor late

749
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: when Connor if Connor gases, and then you know, like, oh,

750
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: Connor's not gonna gas. We saw the second Nate fight, right,

751
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: But I don't think Connor's gas tank is uh. I

752
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's as good as Dustin's. I'll put it

753
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: that way. Dustin's gas tank is excellent. So we'll have

754
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: to see, we'll have to see. So of the things

755
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: that he did well Parier in terms of boxing, he's

756
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: gotten better at them. In terms of his defense. It's

757
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: so so massively improved, but it is still at a

758
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: level where an elite guy who can pinpoint, who can

759
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: set up attacks, who is willing to pull the trigger

760
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: on you know, some of the things that are a

761
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: little bit riskier early in the fight. Connor is all

762
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: those things. So I think, I think that fight will

763
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: be a very difficult one for Dustin early. But if

764
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: he gets through it, and I certainly think he is

765
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: possible to get incapable of getting through it, that I

766
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: think it'll get interesting later. That's that's really what I'm

767
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: hoping to see. Because honestly, if if you're if you're

768
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: a Connor fan, you probably want to see him put

769
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: away Dustin early. But if you're a Connor fan, there's

770
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: got to be a part of you it's like, okay,

771
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I almost want to see him not put away Dustin early,

772
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Like have a real tough dog for three rounds and

773
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: then late put them away. You know, Connor showing a

774
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: new wrinkle because Connor puts most people away pretty early.

775
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, imagine him putting away this guy in the

776
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth. They would tell you that Connor is

777
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: capable of carrying the power late, He's capable of doing

778
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: damage late. He's capable of doing really impressive things, not

779
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: just early in the fight, which you know he can do,

780
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: but could do them later. You would want to see that.

781
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: If you're a Connor fan, right, there's got to be

782
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: a part of you, you know, that feels that way.

783
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: It's not just about winning, but what you show in winning.

784
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Mm m mmm mmmm Okay, good question. You often talk

785
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: about setting traps and striking. I'm somewhat new to MMA.

786
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean to set a trap? Can

787
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: you give a quick example? All right, let's stick with Connor.

788
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Perfect example. So he stands southball right, southball, left hand,

789
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: right hand right. So what I'm gonna do is, I'm

790
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: going to throw from my left side a lot potentially

791
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: straight shots, but I might step to a certain degree

792
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: and i might throw a hooking shot because i want

793
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you to move a certain direction right, and I'm gonna

794
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: let you move in that direction for enough times where

795
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: you begin to get comfortable moving away from my left hand.

796
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: But what I'm really looking to do is, as you

797
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: move away from my left hand, I'm going to intercept

798
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: you as you are now comfortable moving. And I've not

799
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: really thrown this before and I'm gonna throw a spinning

800
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: batkick to the head or to the body right. So

801
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: all this time I've been trying to land on you

802
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: with the left, but I'm also planting seeds in your

803
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: mind to get you to think that lateral movement away

804
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: from the left hand is the way you're gonna beat me.

805
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: But as you do that, you are walking into another

806
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: weapon that I've been setting up for you this whole time.

807
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: That is called setting traps. And there's all kinds of

808
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: ways you can set it up. You can force movement

809
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: in a direction, you can make, you can back up

810
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: at times, getting them to come into you and realizing

811
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: that you are a much better counterpuncher than they are,

812
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: and they're walking into the various traps you could set

813
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: by virtue of angles, by virtue of movement, by virtue

814
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: of punch, election, by virtue of whatever. But it's basically

815
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: you can steer people into your punches as you retreat.

816
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all kinds of things you can do,

817
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: but you are basically setting up a scenario where the

818
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: other person, either because they can't help themselves or because

819
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: they think they have been incentivized by what they've seen

820
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: to do it to to quite literally or figuratively, walk

821
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: into scenarios where now they are not expecting a certain

822
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: weapon because you've fooled them into thinking it, and then

823
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: you unleash that weapon. That is trap setting. And it

824
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: can be a physical as I mentioned, retreat. It can

825
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: be walking someone down. It can be a certain combination

826
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: that you fake and then you go a different way.

827
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean usually it involves somebody more commonly either walking

828
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: into somebody or walking away and then into something else

829
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: that they have set up as an accident. He's I

830
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: don't know how intentional it was, but I've seen guys

831
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: do this where I'll be in this stance and your

832
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'll be in this stance right, So now

833
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: I have my right hand back. I'll be orthodox, and

834
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: as you walk this way along the fence line, I'll

835
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: and i've i've I've conditioned you to walk that way

836
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: along the fence line. So you think you're fine. There

837
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: as I pressure into you, you do it one more time,

838
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: and now you don't walk so fast. You're walking the

839
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: same direction. But you've done it now five six times

840
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: with no issue. You think you're fine. And then what

841
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I'll do is I'll switch stance to close distance, which,

842
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: by the way, I forgot to get to it. One

843
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: of the ways in which Pourier uses stand switching is

844
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: a way to distance close. But like, for example, like

845
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: a steep I did on DC or who else did it?

846
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I think autosign you may have done it rather than

847
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: sitting here as you walk along the fence line. I'm

848
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: now going to switch, which means we're going to bring

849
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: my back leg to the front. And as I bring

850
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: my back leg to the front, I've switched stands. So

851
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: you're not ready for the read. And now I've gotten

852
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: closer to you, and now I get it. Oh, just engage.

853
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: You did it to Edson Barbozo, and I just I

854
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: just turn and walk into you. To the extent of

855
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: those are traps they set up, versus reads they made

856
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: in the moment. You know you go back and look

857
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: at the tape see which you think. But those are

858
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: plausible scenarios of trap setting. It's getting you to walk

859
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: into something again, literally or figuratively, getting you to embrace

860
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: a scenario that I have tricked you into believing is

861
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: safe for you to do whatever it is you want

862
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: to do, when in fact you have now walked into

863
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: a scenario that is very advantageous for me by switching

864
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: up the looks and now giving you what I really

865
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: want to give you versus what you had anticipated or

866
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: experienced up to that point. And there's any number of

867
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: ways to do it. Which fighter has impressed you the

868
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: most in twenty twenty someone that exceeded your expectations for sure,

869
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Holland and Figuredo. You know, Chamaiev I think could

870
00:45:50,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: probably on that list somewhere. Let me look, ah fuck,

871
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: hang on, it's a good question. I'm going to say.

872
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never got made off really, you know,

873
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: beating Gaechie the way he did was, and gate Chie

874
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Beaten Ferguson the way he did it was, I mean,

875
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Who impressed me this year? Jang Way

876
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Lee impressed me, you want to and j Check impressed me.

877
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean that fight they had. I don't know how

878
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: you can walk all I mean not being impressed by that.

879
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: Al Jabin and Sterling impressed me. I didn't know how

880
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: the Cory Sanhagen fight was gonna go, and that he

881
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: just bulldozed him was unbelievable, you know. And I'm a

882
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: big believer In Corey Sandeg and I still think he's

883
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: got something for the rest of that division. But that day,

884
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: that day belongs to Aljamin Sterling. Corey will be the

885
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: first person to tell you that that was impressive. Man,

886
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: that was extremely impressive the way he did that. Who else?

887
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Calvin Cator? I always knew Calvin Cator was good, but

888
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: you were waiting for him to turn the corner, and

889
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: he did this year. I feel pretty good about saying that.

890
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: To watch Dustin Pourier get back on top after suffering

891
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: suffering losses is always a thing to behold. Gilbert Burns,

892
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: his maturation as a striker has been amazing, obviously out

893
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: of sign You know, what he did to Paula Costa

894
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: is just legendary shit. Jan Belokovich, I don't know how

895
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: you can name somebody who you know did Did everyone

896
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: see him coming? You know? I know I didn't, and

897
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm not the only one who didn't. I mean,

898
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: he always knew he was kind of good, but the

899
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: way in which he don't have to be this good

900
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: definitely caught me by surprise. So shouts to him. He

901
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: proved a lot of people were including me Glover to

902
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: share his resurgence. You know, you already knew he was

903
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: good from when he had that first title shot back

904
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: at twenty fourteen or whatever it was against John Jones.

905
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Here you are all this time later. It's just it's amazing. Yeah.

906
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: And then of course Big Francis. You already knew he

907
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: had big power, but just watching him do that it

908
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: has been has been quite amazing. And then you know

909
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: you can go on on the list as well. Amanda

910
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Nunez just making short work of of what's her face?

911
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I forget her name now, the math teacher, the Canadian,

912
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: real nice lady. I forget her name, but you get

913
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: the idea. So it's been a lot of really impressive people.

914
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: It's been a good year in that sense. As you know,

915
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: the UFC recently cut some of their more well known talents.

916
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Ben John McCarthy recently saw that Tony Ferguson could be

917
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: next on the chopping block. Which big name talents do

918
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: you think are in jeopardy being cut? Yeah, I don't

919
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: agree that Ferguson is on the chopping block. Now, obviously

920
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying that in a way where I'm not sitting

921
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: in on the matchmaker meetings. I am skeptical of that.

922
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean for a lot of reasons. One again, he's

923
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: still I think still good. Now. The other ones who

924
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: got cut, you know, still have some life left in

925
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: them as well. But two losses, they're just gonna cut

926
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: you like that. I mean, and you've been an elite

927
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: fighter for eight years or more. That seems awfully hasty.

928
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: You're sending someone to Bellator that fans love that it's

929
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: still willing to take fights. You know. Part of the

930
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: issue with Joel was and he was like no here,

931
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: no there, no there again, and they just and he

932
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: had missed weight. Like with Tony doesn't miss wait, he

933
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: doesn't dodge opponents, you know, and he doesn't put on

934
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: bad fights. He has two tough fights that you know

935
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: could signal something more significant, but for the moment, like

936
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I that seems to be not the right read. The

937
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: other ones that could be on there, I think JDS

938
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: could be on there. I think Jacquaray could be on there.

939
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: I think again, we went over this the other week, right,

940
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: it was a combination of age, you know, fight readiness.

941
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, you're a relationship with matchmakers to what extent,

942
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: you're a popular figure, to what extent your best days

943
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: are in front of you, are behind you, irrespective of age,

944
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: damage cost. I mean, all of them sort of fit

945
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: in there in there, and it's never you have to

946
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: have all of them or four of them or six

947
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: of them or whatever. You know, it's gonna be a

948
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: feel thing based on the matchmakers. But I don't agree

949
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: that Tony would be a leading candidate for the UFC

950
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: to get rid of that seems super hasty. Now, if

951
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: he goes up there and let's say fights, so let's

952
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: look at the rankings here, so let's go to lightweight. Okay,

953
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: if he went out there and fought a Paul Felder,

954
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: who was a good fighter, a great fighter, but he

955
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: was sitting at eight eight in the rankings, and he

956
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: got demolished the way he did against gae Chee, then

957
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: you might have a problem. Because it's one thing to

958
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: lose to Gaigee, who's the current number one contender, you know,

959
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: top three fighter in the world in that weight class.

960
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: OLIVERA has now clearly put himself in this similar kind

961
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: of position. You're not losing to bums, man, I mean,

962
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: you're losing to really good fighters, really good fighters, and

963
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: there could be all kinds of circumstances that explain that

964
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: or at least somewhat contribute to the downswing. I think

965
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: age is the thing you have to consider as well,

966
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: But which makes I think Big John's thought that the

967
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: process is there not altogether wrong. And again we'll have

968
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: to see him. He could be on the money with it,

969
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: but there just are not enough boxes you can check

970
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: for Tony that would make me think that he's on

971
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: the chopping block in the way that you would for Jedds,

972
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: who you know, cannot take punishment, who is you know

973
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: has significant mileage on him, who has lost, you know,

974
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: with a four in a row or something. Dude, we're

975
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: not even close to that level with Tony, not yet.

976
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: So you know, if he has another bad year, well

977
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: and we can revisit this conversation. But right now I

978
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: would be extremely surprised if Tony was cut, very very

979
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: very very surprised. How do I get more interesting read books?

980
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be my answer, and then listen to

981
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck I say that'll help. I mean, I'm teasing,

982
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're that nubs. Another cool question

983
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: about Olivera and Habib, I will skip it. Best spots

984
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: to train BJJ in the nation's capital. Let's see, there

985
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: is the Beta Academy, which is where I went from

986
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: many many years, which is run by a gentleman by

987
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: the name of Knackapon who's a Pedro sour black belt.

988
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: There are a ton of Yamasaki academies here and they're

989
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: all run by very legitimate people. You can't go wrong

990
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: in any of the Yamasaki academies, you know, depending on

991
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: your moral calculations. Here you can decide whether or not

992
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: to train with any of the various team would IRV

993
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: and affiliates. I mean, let's support to be real here.

994
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: There are some complicating factors with that. On the other hand,

995
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: if all you really care about is good jiu jitsu,

996
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get it. There's his spot, which

997
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: I've been to for a long time, years and years ago.

998
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: The guy was like two thousand and four, I mean,

999
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: I was doing that, but that was in Camp Springs, Maryland.

1000
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: You got Crazy eighty eight out there. You've got God,

1001
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: what's another good spot that's right outside of the Nations.

1002
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: It's in Frederick, Maryland, I think, which a little bit

1003
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: further away. Ah, what's that fucking place I've forgotten some

1004
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: of the names. But there's a ton of schools. Man.

1005
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: If you watch what used to be called Operation Octagon

1006
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: is now called cage Zilla. They pull from all the

1007
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: local gyms. There's a bunch in Northern Virginia now that

1008
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: didn't used to be there. But you're talking about like

1009
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: in the city limits and you're looking at Oh, Ryan Hall,

1010
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking Ryan Hall teaches us some false church.

1011
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: What is that? A fifteen minute drive from the city

1012
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: if that so you can go train in fifty fifty

1013
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: if you want out there. There's a ton of good places.

1014
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: There's a ton of good places, so it can't go wrong. Man,

1015
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: Between Yamasaki Academy, between Ryan Hall's place, if the loid

1016
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: even thing is up your alley, uh you know, knock

1017
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Upon or a Beta Academy, any of those, any of

1018
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: those are you'll get sick rounds. Dude, you'll get really

1019
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: really good training. Judo. I don't know, I don't know.

1020
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know specifically, what would be the best place

1021
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: to get judo? Man, fuck judo, Like Judo's Here's what

1022
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Judo is amazing, It's an amazing martial art.

1023
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're twenty five, you know, and

1024
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: you've never trained judo. You've never trained martial arts in particular,

1025
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: you've never trained judo. I don't think it's wrong to

1026
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: incorporate some judo training into your jiu jitsu. But you

1027
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: can skip judo. You're gonna get fucked up. Man. The

1028
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 1: injuries in judo are nothing to play with. Why would

1029
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: you want to get that injured if you don't have

1030
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: a real competitive ambition and also so competitive potential, Like

1031
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: people get real hurt doing judo. I don't reck. I mean,

1032
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I could never be more fucked not forget wrestling. Striking

1033
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: obviously depends on what kind of striking you're doing and

1034
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: how serious you are, and you know how much sparring

1035
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But like I just knew. I

1036
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: just knew that if I went to judo practice, something

1037
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: terrible was gonna happen to me and every and you're like, oh, well,

1038
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: if you think that it's going to happen, even when

1039
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: I tried to like control my mind and be like, Okay,

1040
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: it's not gonna have to day, it's not gonna happen today,

1041
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know, and everything will be fine,

1042
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: and then you would just take oh, you know, one

1043
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: fucking o Soto Gary that you weren't supposed to and

1044
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: you land badly on your neck or your fucking hands

1045
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: or and you know, you get to tape your fingers

1046
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: because they would get all fucking mangled. Grip fighting, and

1047
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, that's a rough sport. That's a rough sport,

1048
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: and if you don't have any real need to train it,

1049
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: skip it. That's what I learn a double egg, which

1050
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: you can do in judo too, the Morote guary. But

1051
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: there's one thing I would do over again. I would

1052
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: just skip it all together and then just take more wrestling,

1053
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: which you know you'll get interesd doing that too, but

1054
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: fuck that. Fuck that. Here's a stupid question about Jake Paul.

1055
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip Luke. Is there a touching your glasses

1056
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: drinking game? Yet? There needs to be? These fucking things

1057
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: are slippery, man, How do you guys? Cause here's what happens.

1058
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: It gets down to here and then I can't quite

1059
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: see right, so I have to kind of just put

1060
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: it back here. But it doesn't take much for to

1061
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: go down to that level. Do you think the UFCO.

1062
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: The commission will ever require that fighters must also weigh

1063
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: in on fight day just to show the exact weight

1064
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: differences when they actually go to the cage. There are

1065
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: commissions that will weigh fighters right before they walk out.

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I think New York has done that before. There might

1067
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: be some other ones as well, included California. I know

1068
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: for a fact New York did it. But in terms

1069
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: of like you have to hit a certain number on

1070
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: fight day for the entire card. I mean, there's gonna

1071
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: be sometin situations where there's only so much you could

1072
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: rehydrate by virtue of any kind of complicating factor. But

1073
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: as a rule, oh, we don't want you putting on

1074
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: this much and we've only got like two way ins.

1075
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got like ten way ins where

1076
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: they're measuring you several weeks out and they can see

1077
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: what your hydration levels are, if there's extra screening, like

1078
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: they might do in certain situations in California, you can

1079
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: get away with certain versions of same day weigh ins.

1080
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: But the remaining problem is basically that if you only

1081
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: have two wayh insu the one the night before then

1082
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: then one the next day, someone will not properly rehydrate

1083
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: enough to make a certain limit, which will cause potential

1084
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: health complications if they have a really tough fight, or

1085
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, they've not fully rehydrated themselves, and that gets

1086
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: to a problem and you're like, oh, well they do

1087
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the in jiu jitsu. Well yeah, well jiujitsus nearly as

1088
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: rough as MMA, so that doesn't seem like as much

1089
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: of a problem. Who would sell more pay per views?

1090
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: This is an interesting question. Mayweather versus a Paul brother

1091
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: or McGregor versus a Paul brother. I think if McGregor

1092
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: wins his next fight, and especially if it's for the belt,

1093
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: I'll say McGregor, But if he loses his next fight,

1094
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: it might end up being Mayweather looke. Do you think

1095
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: TV streaming sites like Netflix are a waste of time

1096
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 1: when trying to be successful in all aspects of life?

1097
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: No part of being successful in life is making enough

1098
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: time for recreation. There's good things to watch on Netflix.

1099
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dumb shit to watch on Netflix too,

1100
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of good things to read or

1101
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, I should say to watch and getting joy

1102
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: and entertainment and relaxation is part of a journey towards

1103
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: both self fulfillment and self improvement. So no, I don't

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: think that at all. What's the saying, all work and

1105
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: no play makes Jack a dull boy? Don't be a

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: dull boy. Let's see, you've mentioned that you were born

1107
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: in India, where I was born in New Delhi. I

1108
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: was born in New Delhi. It was actually born on

1109
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: the British embassy. Of all places, that was the way

1110
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: which the hospital system worked at the time. His way

1111
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: was explained to me in terms of like Americans over

1112
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: there who had pregnant wives. But yes, yes, I was

1113
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: born in New Delhi, India. My sister was born in Beirut,

1114
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: and my brother was born in Paris, all of us

1115
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: all over the world. My dad was born in Oklahoma.

1116
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: Let me sell you something. If you need a bail

1117
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: bondsman or a pawn shop, you're in luck in Oklahoma. Actually,

1118
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: there's great parts of Oklahoma. I'm teasing. I got mugged

1119
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, so don't be fucking getting all self righteous

1120
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: on me people from Oklahoma. But Lawton, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma

1121
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: City's quite nice. Tulsa is quite nice. But uh, Lawton, Oklahoma.

1122
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Woo buddy, craze of Steves Pawnshop next to outrageous bobs

1123
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: bail bonds like it's just that for fucking Miles. M

1124
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: m mmm mmmm. A lot of questions about Tony that

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01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: we've kind of gotten to. It is a good question.

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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: Do you think twenty twenty? Does twenty twenty rank anywhere

1127
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: near the top of the list for best years to

1128
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: be a UFC fan? It's a good question. I mean,

1129
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: you have you would have to define what it would

1130
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: mean to be a UFC fan. And this is why

1131
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I say that, h does that mean somebody who? Because

1132
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: if part of being a UFC fan is like meet

1133
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: and greets and going to shows and blah blah blah,

1134
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: well then obviously this has been a fucking horrific year

1135
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: for that. If it means you know, just what was

1136
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: available as a television product, it's been an exceptional year.

1137
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: If it means you know, we need to define a

1138
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: little bit of what it means to be that experience.

1139
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the last one. The last one,

1140
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: which is you know, to the extent you were a

1141
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: consumer of the television product. Where is this rank in

1142
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: years for UFC? It ranks extremely high, extremely high. You

1143
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: have just got to give them credit. They made some

1144
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: mistakes early on, i think in the pandemic, but they

1145
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: fixed them. It seems like they fixed them relatively quickly,

1146
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: and they got to a good place to have a

1147
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: sustainable sort of assembly line of content, and you got

1148
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot of it. And you know what's kind of

1149
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: funny about these complaints is, you know, is there too

1150
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: much MMA? And there's it's a complicated way to Years

1151
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: and years ago, right around twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty

1152
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: twelve or so, there was this major debate in MMA

1153
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: about oversaturation and the weird the part that got weird

1154
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: was that all of the arguments that were made to

1155
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: suggest that oversaturation was a problem were true, which is

1156
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: that it was forcing generational turnover with fans. You know,

1157
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: people were just leaving the sport. All the bars that

1158
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: my neighborhood that used to show it stopped. There was

1159
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: this hot point in MMA in the like two thousand

1160
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: and eight and nine, right around UFC one hundred. Let's

1161
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: say that burned out as there was this turnover and

1162
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: you were like shit, man, Like the ratings were going down.

1163
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: It was like there was a lot of like bad signs.

1164
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: But what ended up happening was, you know, you had

1165
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: this I'm not going to attribute it strictly to Ronda

1166
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: and Connor, but it just came around the time that

1167
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: they began to develop into hot commodities, where this new

1168
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: group of fans came in. I mean, one of the

1169
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: theories one of the things that people who were arguing

1170
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: on behalf of oversaturation and I raised my hand there

1171
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: and not in behalf of, but like as a theory

1172
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: to take seriously that we just didn't see coming was

1173
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: that like, Okay, all the people you say are leaving,

1174
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: they're definitely leaving. And all the ratings you see going down,

1175
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 1: they're definitely going down. But the consequences of them didn't

1176
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: quite materialize in the way that we thought they would,

1177
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: which was like the networks didn't give up on it,

1178
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: and a new generation of fans came in. Obviously some

1179
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: have retained, but a new generation of fans came in

1180
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: and maybe more than ever. And so there was this

1181
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: moment where you had, you know, this this growth through

1182
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: change and then also like through that process, I would say,

1183
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: after that twenty sixteen or so, you got to this

1184
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: point where man, the best practices of really gotten good.

1185
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: You know, I see a lot of complaints about the

1186
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: homogeneity of these cards, and I understand some of those complaints,

1187
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: and I think they were very valid when oversaturation was happening,

1188
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of the fights were stale, there wasn't

1189
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: nearly as much creativity and inventiveness. And when it comes

1190
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: to like unique styles, there's not as many as you

1191
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: might imagine in relative to how there used to be

1192
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: in terms of like identifiable ones. But today you can

1193
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: turn on a random UFC card and man, you can

1194
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: see the jokes on Twitter about the names and blah

1195
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: blah blah, I don't even know who the fuck these

1196
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: guys are. And then you watch and you're like, dude,

1197
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: the fights, you know's some bad ones. Obviously there's some

1198
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: shit ones. There's some bad cards, you know, And these

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Speaker 1: arguments like, oh, the ones people pay attention to the least,

1200
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: those are the ones that do the best. That's just

1201
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: a line promoters tell you to buy into the product

1202
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: that they've put into the least. Just don't just ignore

1203
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: that shit. But what I will say is I can't

1204
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: recall a time or I could turn on any random

1205
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: card and see as much just thorough skill level as

1206
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: I do today. And so you're talking also about big

1207
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: fights that they were able to make and interesting moments,

1208
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: and you had this Joaquin Buckley knockout and what Attasania

1209
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: is doing, and you know, party versus Hooker, and you

1210
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: want to eat j Check versus ZHANGUAYI Lee like this,

1211
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, this globalized sport with all this other stuff. Okay,

1212
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: that's all true too, Like the high water mark is incredible,

1213
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: but sometimes the best way to measure a sport is

1214
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: not just by its high water mark but or this

1215
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: by an organization's level anyway, but by the low water mark.

1216
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: And the low water mark is fucking high high man,

1217
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: if what you really care about, what you really really

1218
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: care about is fights and skills and two elite fighters

1219
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: male or female, scrapping at to the best of their ability,

1220
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and you know, assuming that the mix works out where

1221
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: you get something kind of reasonably entertaining about it. Dude,

1222
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: there's just never been a better time. There's never been

1223
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: a better time. This is the time. So I would

1224
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: say twenty sixteen was very special, but twenty twenty is

1225
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: up there. It's up there. Pandemic and all all right,

1226
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh there was one here about the Paul Brothers. I'll

1227
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: do this and I'll probably end on it here. I

1228
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: love the channel on how objective you are usually, but

1229
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: you take on the Paul Brothers mainly, Logan seems pretty immature.

1230
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: Just saying how terribly horrible they are as humans and

1231
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: going on and on while also saying you don't know

1232
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: much about them, just comes off a little hypocoal. No,

1233
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a hypocritical excuse me. No, I'm not their

1234
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: biggest fan either, but come on, all right, I don't

1235
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: know about Jake, but Logan actually did a little research

1236
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: into to understand this better. He is a Vine star

1237
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: that when Vine went away, I guys, remember Vine, was

1238
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: it like seven seconds or some shit whatever? It was

1239
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: fifteen so I don't remember what it was anymore, but

1240
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: it was a sort of technology that was like the

1241
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: It was almost like a long form GIF for a

1242
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: moment in time, Jeff whatever it's pronounced. And then they

1243
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: got rid of it, and a bunch of those people

1244
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: moved on to Instagram, and a lot of them, like

1245
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: Lelly Pond's who is just a Creature from the Black Lagoon,

1246
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: they moved on to YouTube, and some of them hit

1247
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: it big on YouTube logan Paul being one of them. Basically,

1248
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: this dude got famous doing bad comedy skits and bits.

1249
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: Then I checked out his podcast Impulsive, which is a

1250
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: very good name. I'll give them credit for we came

1251
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: up with a name. It's you know, moron's having moronic discussions.

1252
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the guy is you know, it's sing

1253
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: with Tito Ortiz like Tito Ortiz. Can you know, There's

1254
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: not much you could say in the ways of praise

1255
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: of his intellect at this point, but he is a

1256
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: capable self promoter. I mean, some people are not, you know,

1257
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: altogether very interesting or deeply thoughtful or whatever, but they'll

1258
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: have these certain instincts that translate into abilities and certain

1259
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: lack of fear or whatever that makes them very capable

1260
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: self promoters. But the Paul brothers are quite capable of this.

1261
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you can again, if what you're asking me

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Speaker 1: to measure is their economic impact, I will not deny it,

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Speaker 1: you know. And if you're asking me to say, is

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Speaker 1: there a market for the kind of thing that they do?

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Speaker 1: Quite clearly, and it's a lot bigger than the one

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Speaker 1: for my market. The best I'll ever do will not

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Speaker 1: be as good as they do if what you're measuring

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Speaker 1: is the overall market potential. But I don't make content

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Speaker 1: for donks. It's not what I do. I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't even occur to me, and I would be

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Speaker 1: bad at it if I tried. I make content for

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Speaker 1: people who are trying to do a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than that. I don't make content for the for you know,

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Speaker 1: for Fuco and Pisso, which I'm saying in a very

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Speaker 1: pedestrian and immature and frankly, you know, vulgar way. I

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Speaker 1: understand that, but that's no one watches technical difficulties for

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Speaker 1: who lacks deep interest in the nuances of combat sports.

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Speaker 1: It's not. That's not who the audience is, and so

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Speaker 1: as a consequence, it will always be narrowed. Listen, and

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to give praise to the Paul

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Speaker 1: brothers for hustle, I am certain that they have hustled.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to give them credit for what

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Speaker 1: they have turned themselves into in terms of their financial returns,

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Speaker 1: I won't. I won't. I won't get in the way.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I do. It's not I couldn't do

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Speaker 1: it if I tried. The objective fact is what the

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Speaker 1: objective fact is. They are massively successful, but they do

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Speaker 1: it because they appeal to fucking idiots. And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of fucking idiots out there who are into

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Speaker 1: bad comedy and bad stick and bad conversations. Dude, that's

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Speaker 1: a lucrative fucking market. And apparently if you like watching

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Speaker 1: him fight, you're into bad fights too, either one of them.

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Speaker 1: I go, the Nate Robinson knockout was was not bad,

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Speaker 1: you know, for what it was. It's fine, good even maybe,

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you're into the refined things, even

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Speaker 1: remotely refined things like if you really like fights, why

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Speaker 1: the fuck would you watch that? You know, if you're

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Speaker 1: really into good conversation between intelligent people, why would you

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Speaker 1: watch that. If you're really into good comedy, why would

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Speaker 1: you watch that. Well, it's not to say that you

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Speaker 1: don't want to let your hair down at times and

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Speaker 1: find something that's a little silly and not over the top,

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Speaker 1: and not everything has to be masterpiece theater or a

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Speaker 1: criterion collection, you know, or the recipients of you know,

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Speaker 1: honors at the Kennedy Center. Okay, fine, sure, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. But in general, it's just low level crap,

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Speaker 1: and God bless them do they made a ton of

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Speaker 1: money off of that, you know, I no doubt about it. Man,

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Speaker 1: they are the American dream. Good Good for them, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to stop what they've got going on.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't do it if I tried. But you guys want

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Speaker 1: me to dignify it because there's a large audience for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. The size of the audience, to me,

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Speaker 1: confers respectability in terms of maybe what their ambitions have been.

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Speaker 1: But for the product itself, it's fucking stupid. It's for

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Speaker 1: it's it's for it's for mouth breathers. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can you can fucking vote that down. You can

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Speaker 1: do what you want. Man, no one in life ever

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Speaker 1: wants to be like, if you're at all discerning, oh

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Speaker 1: you're a fucking hater. Fine me, I'm a hater. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't give a shit. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: don't care that there is this kind of label being

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Speaker 1: put on people who have the temerity to say some

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Speaker 1: things are better than others, some things are way better

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Speaker 1: than others. And there's comes to a point where if

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Speaker 1: you like some of this stuff, there's a taste level involved.

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Speaker 1: There's a taste level involved if you like that shit,

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Speaker 1: So you know you could say to you what you

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Speaker 1: want about all my stuff too. It's fine, We're all

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Speaker 1: entit it to our opinion. I will I will respect

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Speaker 1: their hustle till the day I die. And as I

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Speaker 1: said before, dude, people are tragically underestimating them in terms

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Speaker 1: of the scalability of what they're doing, like how long

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to keep this up and how

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Speaker 1: deep seated that YouTube popularity can be with Kimbo's life

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Speaker 1: as a can bist excuse me as a rough but

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Speaker 1: someone approximate measurement of what they're doing that will last, man,

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Speaker 1: that will last. But am I the consumer for this? No?

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Speaker 1: I read above a sixth grade level. Most of you

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Speaker 1: do too. You're probably a little bit more like me

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Speaker 1: than you are like them, probably a lot more so.

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Speaker 1: Like what you like, dude, it's a free country. But

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Speaker 1: you want me to confer respectability upon this, don't wait

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Speaker 1: for that bus. Uh, there's one more can than in

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: a nicer note, what would you like to see President

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Speaker 1: Biden do in his first one hundred days? I'm like

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Speaker 1: Jim Carrey in Uh, dumb and dumber. Don't you go

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Speaker 1: dying on me. Ah, that'd be the first one. Don't die.

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Speaker 1: You know what, man? You know I got my focus

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Speaker 1: on and you're starting to see it now, which is,

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Speaker 1: let's just get let's just get let's just get the

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Speaker 1: country vaccinated. Let's get the world vaccinated if we can,

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Speaker 1: so we can get over this nonsense and get back

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Speaker 1: to our normal lives. Because until this is under control,

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Speaker 1: nothing else really matters at this point. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things I'd like to see, but the most

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Speaker 1: important one is can we please? Can I can? I

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Speaker 1: tell you what? Like? Think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the day where you see when people

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Speaker 1: died from I'll end on this. Thirty four hundred people

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Speaker 1: died from COVID yesterday, and I'm not here to do

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Speaker 1: a whole COVID rant. I promise you join me in

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Speaker 1: my COVID optimism for just a moment, which is, there

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Speaker 1: is going to come a day where the news will

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Speaker 1: report that like five people died of COVID. That will happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how far into the future, could be

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Speaker 1: a while, but it will happen. Do you know how glorious.

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Speaker 1: A day that's going to be not for the people

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Speaker 1: that lost five you know, families that lost loved ones.

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Speaker 1: But what I mean to say is what it would

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Speaker 1: say about our ability to come back this and how

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Speaker 1: things would be open again. Gyms would be open, and

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Speaker 1: you know, in ways that they're not here, like for example,

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Speaker 1: like here in DC, gyms are open, but if you

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Speaker 1: run classes, the classes are closed. So like if you

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Speaker 1: have an orange therapy or something like that, like they

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Speaker 1: can't open, you know, And it's a fucking nightmare. It's

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Speaker 1: a nightmare for ever everybody is. It's a nightmare. I

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Speaker 1: want that to be over, so God bless them. You know.

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Speaker 1: I hope that I hope that he can figure that out,

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Speaker 1: provided that you know, the things are in place to

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Speaker 1: get us to a rough approximation. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can get to you know, the benchmarks I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: within one hundred days. But you're asking me what I

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Speaker 1: want him to spend one hundred days doing. Yeah, unfucking

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Speaker 1: this problem is what I want him to spend one

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Speaker 1: hundred days doing. All Right, Tomorrow, eleven am morning, Combat

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Speaker 1: BC and I we're gonna get you ready for the

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Speaker 1: triple g Fight for the Canelo Fight for the Biggest

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Speaker 1: and lat One on biggest, but the last UFC card

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Speaker 1: of the year. Doe. By the way, there's a big

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Speaker 1: lull after this weekend. You're not gonna see a UFC event,

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Speaker 1: I think, if I'm not mistaken, until what January sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: So you better enjoy it while you can. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: lots of stuff coming your way, all right, so as always,

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Speaker 1: get the video a thumbs up, hit that subscribe button

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Speaker 1: and I will be back with BC tomorrow to get

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Speaker 1: you ready for all the greatness. And yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for watching. Until next time, Stay Frosty,