WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE From 2016 NFL Combine - Day 1 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:08.479 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys on 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.680 your war room for insider news and draft analysis from 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.040 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.880 the Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:25.960 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Indeed, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.160 the Draft Show is on the air from the from 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.280 Lucas Oil Stadium here, the site of the two thousand 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.599 and sixteen NFL Combine. I'm Brian brought us along with 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.280 Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Jeff 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.640 Kabanov one oh five three The Fan, my scouting buddy 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.040 during the week and rival on the weekends when we 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.640 argue about these players. And Kevin Turner also from one 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.840 oh five three The Fan, a little bit more apologetic 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.880 about why he doesn't like a particular player, unlike Jeff. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.600 So gentlemen, welcome to day one of the combine. Snowing outside, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.399 nice and toasty in here for some draft talk. Have 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:12.360 the running backs, the offensive line, and the specialists on 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.319 tap today. No workouts, all interviews. That's something we'll be 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.560 talking about today. I want to get your feeling on 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.320 those guys maybe what we could expect tomorrow. I want 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.679 to also give fans the opportunity out there to get 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.640 ahold of us. We don't have our phone lines up 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.640 like we do in the SWBC Mortgage studios, but we 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.080 do have the ability you have at the Draft Show. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.480 If you follow us on Twitter, We've been putting a 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.640 lot of stuff out. This seems like this is going 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.360 to be the time every day that we'll be able 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.759 to do this show, which will be five o'clock Central Time. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.600 So if you want to get ahold of us, it's 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.440 at the Draft Show. For a question, I'll make sure 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.640 the panel gets it. But Dan, I'll start with you 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.960 offensive line. It started off initially okay, we got the 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.040 specialist trickling through, and then then all of a sudden 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.040 and we got a few other guy, a few offensive lineman. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.520 Then there was some big time offensive lineman, Dick, some 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.640 big time tackles that made an appearance in that room today, right, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.760 and the first day is always about the three ms, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.040 the medicals, the measurements, and then the media. That's when 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.880 they all come strolling into the media room and we 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.680 get to a chance to really pick their brain about 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.200 how the process is going, and you know, just kind 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.720 of get a feel for them as people. And for 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.600 a lot of these players, these seniors, we've seen him 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.640 at the Senior Bowl or some other all star events, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.800 but for the underclassman, it's really our first chance to 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.000 talk to them of close and you know, kind of 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.000 throw questions at him. And so that was the case 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.320 with Laramie Tunsel, who at the projected number one overall 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.680 pick the favorite to go number one overall, and he 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.960 made a strong case why the Tennessee Titans should pick him, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.519 saying he is the best when you talk about the 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.359 best tackles in this draft. So I thought he was convincing. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:58.359 He was great. Ronnie Stanley not as impressive. During his interview, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.760 kind of talked about someone asked him what do you 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.959 hope to prove today? And he really harped a lot 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.639 on the fact that there are some questions out there 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.679 about his effort, his competitive fire, you know, does he 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.240 have does he love football basically, and so he harped 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.880 on that quite a few times, and so and there 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.600 has been that question out there. So that's something that 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.799 Ronnie Stanley is aware of and something that he's going 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.240 to try and prove to scouts and NFL teams this 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.080 week during the interview process, Jeff, your thoughts though you 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.520 you had you came in, you know, pre show talking 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.560 a little bit about some of these running backs and 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.680 really what you you know, we you know, the questions 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.080 about Tunsil and Stanley and those guys. But you got 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.760 a shot to talk to a couple of running backs today. Yeah, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.640 And I thought, for me, there was one guy in particular, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.680 because I think at the combine it's a great opportunity 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.160 for a lot of these players where there's certain things 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:53.600 you get to see on tape or that we get 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.200 to see on tape when we watch these guys, and 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.000 there's certain things that teams don't ask guys to do. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.160 So for Alex Collin is the guy from Arkansas who 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:06.040 I think we all really like as a runner, right downhill, guy, decisive, powerful, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.880 not gonna quit. Like, really like him as a runner. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.120 And so he was up there on his podium and 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.640 we're talking to him about the other facets of his game, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.960 and he talked about taking pride in the past protection 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.440 and he talked about how excited he is to come 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.440 out here and show off catching the football because that's 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.160 one of the things that you know, we make notes 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.680 on him when we first watched him, we're like, man, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.200 that's a really good runner. Really like the way he 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.839 runs the football, but you don't really see him block 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.760 a lot. You don't really see him catch the ball 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.359 a lot. And he made the note He's like, I 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.400 never dropped one. Yeah, And so for a guy like 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.640 that to to sort of dispel something that people could 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.360 have as a possible knock on him, I think that's 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.680 a big deal. Yeah. And Kat, your first trip here 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.080 to Indianapolis into the combine and all the experience that 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.320 you had today, you know, and seeing a lot of 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.000 you know, we focus Dane, talked about Tunsa, and we 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.440 talked about Collins and just anybody else. It's kind of 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.560 kind of, you know, wet your appetitle because you've seen 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.720 a lot of tape on these guys and this is 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.599 your first experience to get up personal, hear him talk 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.600 a little bit and see what they're all about. Well, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.159 it's fun to go get close to some of those 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.280 guys who are later in the day, later in the 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.680 draft type of guys. The day three guys so much 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.360 to Denver Kirkland had started to kind of beating him 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.680 down about hey man, you're moving back into guard right 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.039 like that. You've got to move back into guard, right? 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.640 He said, Oh yeah, everyone's talking to me about playing guard. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.560 He's a guy here, even though he had to play 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.560 tackle last year. I know Denver Kirkland's a you know, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.240 a third day type of guy now. But I also 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.719 there's a guy I didn't get to see today, and 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.760 it's my second favorite running back in the draft. It's 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.640 DeVante Booker, and I was hoping. I know he's not 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.560 going to participate or anything because of his knee, but 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.160 I did see that he put on a little bit 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.599 of weight, which was something he was wanting to do. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.880 I think he got up to around two twenty, and 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.120 I didn't get to talk to him because that we 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.760 were so consumed with, you know, dealing with Jason Garrett 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.320 and all that. And I don't even know if he 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.920 even came out and did interviews or not. I didn't 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.800 get a chance. You might see him tomorrow, Okay, yeah, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.760 Well hopefully we do get to Zeke too, because I 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:01.920 did not come. Yeah. That's and that when when all 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.159 of a sudden, when you don't start seeing guys and 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.919 I wrote about this on Dallas Cowboys dot com this morning, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.000 kind of my my combined primer. You start when you 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.160 don't see guys you wrong, Yeah, what medical information? What 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.400 medical what? What team is holding my favorite running back 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.080 up from coming in and visiting with me? You know, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.880 That's that's all of a sudden. So yeah, like Dane says, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.080 hopefully we'll catch up with those guys as they come through. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.400 Speaking of running backs though, you know, and we like 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:33.040 to be a show that not only investigates but educates 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.280 the fans out there. And that's our big thing. And 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.920 you know, the Dallas Cowboys particularly, and we have a 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.919 lot of fans out there, just not Dallas Cowboy fans, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.520 and you know, we love the ones we have, but 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.320 we you know, we try and be a full service 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.440 show here. But let's talk about maybe what we saw Henry, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.400 Derek Henry up there on the podium today, you know, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.800 and and and he was very kind of like the 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.600 smile was someone asking well how much you weigh? You know, 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.800 and here's a guy that we gamos gave you what 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.360 he gave you two forty ninety seven. Yeah, So all 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:06.920 of a sudden, you're sitting there to going. You know, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:08.960 if you're not a Derek Henry fan and all, I 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.120 didn't think that he looked now he was in sweats 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.920 and all that stuff like two and a half. Yeah, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.480 it's but you're thinking attributed. You're thinking about, you know, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.520 a two hundred and fifty pound guy. Now, maybe this 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.640 guy not for the Dallas Cowboys, and folks will go 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.120 out there, they'll go, oh hey, Brian, why not for 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.000 the Dallas Cowboys. You know, I think that they're looking 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.880 for a different type of back. I don't think that 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.280 that Derrick Henry fits in his back. But we'll talk 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.560 about him. What just you know, when you were standing 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.200 there or you got the opportunity to see him with 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.400 your own eyes, just he thoughts about Derrick Henry. Yeah, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.720 he's obviously the weight. He even surprises. He was surprised 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.920 by that. He said he's been working to add some weight, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.760 get stronger, but even he wasn't expecting two forty seven. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.520 Now we'll see obviously, you know, is that going to 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 hinder him at all with the different drills and things 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.680 like that. But he reminded me a little bit of 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.640 Cam Newton up there, just with a smile. Uh, you know, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.960 he was just happy to be there answer all the questions. Uh, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.720 you know, talking about it's forty yard dash. She's like, oh, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.880 I'm not telling you guys, I have a goal, but 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.560 you know, we'll see if I get there. Okay, let's 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.320 talk about that a little bit then. You know, you know, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.520 I think a lot is going to be said about, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.840 you know, guys like that. We thought that tread Well, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.920 there's there's certain guys in this draft, and when we 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.040 evaluate players, we're we're interested in seeing, Hey, what's what 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.000 do we think this guy is gonna run? I mean, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.480 you know, I'm interested to see what the Notre Dame 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.440 receiver is gonna run. Hopefully, Yeah, I'm interested to see 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.000 how fast he really is. But I'm also I'm interested 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.000 in Henry and I just because from a standpoint of, okay, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.720 is this a you know, the time that we were 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.120 working with and scouts were working with going into the 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.439 fall was four or five four, So I was kind 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.040 of thinking, though, if he runs four or five four 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.720 or better, you know, I think that's a that's a 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.880 positive for him. But anything if he goes in that 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.440 all of a sudden, he's two hundred and forty seven pounds, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.520 he runs four six eight. Then all of a sudden 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.439 do people think about him differently or again? Is it 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.880 I told you so and he's he's not gonna be 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.280 able to do? You know, he doesn't create, he needs 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.200 this needs that is Derrick Henry does. Does it? Does 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.520 it hurt him in that? When you watch him one film? 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.880 Would you think? What? What does forty time? Did you 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.480 think he was a four or five athlete? Well, because 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.440 there's times when he does separate. I mean you see 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.000 him breaking second level and go, I'm not he's down 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.320 on Derek Herry. I know that there's people out there 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.439 that do like him. I know there's fans that ask 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.880 a lot of questions. I'm oh, hey, who's not intrigued 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.520 by a two hundred and fifty pound back? I round 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.640 up in his case. But if he were to run better, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.199 does that Does that change your thinking about him at all? 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.960 Or is that make any difference? Kate too, I feel 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.400 like I know what I'm getting with Derek Henry. I 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.800 feel really good about the evaluation on him because I 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.640 don't know if the speed is gonna is gonna make 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.000 too much of a difference. I feel like I know 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.280 what he is and I think it people kind of 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:00.960 freak out just beca as I'm you know, a lot 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.960 of people mate like a couple other running backs better 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.960 than him. I think he's a third round guy, and 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.440 I feel confident in that evaluation. A lot of people 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.479 see him as a second round guy and that that's okay. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.640 But I don't see him as the best running back 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.680 in the draft or anything. I think it's clearly Zeke 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.000 and I've I like two other guys more than I 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.719 like Derrick Henry. You know, I'm okay, Jeff, what kind 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.920 of player you think somebody's gonna get it they draft 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:27.200 Derrick Henry. I think it depends who gets him because 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.040 for all of them, I mean, we we've talked about 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.760 this guy a lot, and I feel like most people 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.760 when I talk about him, feel like I'm being negative 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:39.600 because I point out, yeah, dat hate why you hate him? 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.719 I don't. That's it's very fair you hate him, Well 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.840 hate Every hero needs a villain. Hey, boys, we're here 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.800 all week. We get to talk about him all week 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.319 long if you want so. So for Henry, every time 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.320 that I talk about him, I do point out that 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.760 if you're not gonna give him a clean route for 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.600 his first two or three steps, Like, if you've got 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.600 penetration in your backfield, Derrick Henry is in trouble. Yeah, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.400 he's in big trouble. He's not a guy that's going 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.880 to get out of that. But once you get him going, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.560 I mean you see on a lot of his runs, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.880 once he breaks into the open field, the dude can go. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.320 He can run. And so for me, it's all about 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.520 what team he goes to. So for all of the 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.840 times that I point out the things I don't love 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.200 about him as a player, I still realize that if 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.319 he ended up with the Dallas Cowboys, I probably flip 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.000 my whole opinion because they can give that to it, right, Yeah, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.319 give him those steps and then you're looking at You're 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.960 looking at linebackers, safeties, corners, they just fall off the guy. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.280 The stiff arm is so long. It's just it's so 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.719 hard to get a hold of him. And that's why 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.599 I really don't care what Derrick Henry runs in the 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.480 forty yard dash. I've seen him, you know, speed away 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.520 from linebackers. I care. So you're higher on him than 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.319 we are, though you're a little I mean I gave 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.400 him at a mid to late second round grade. Okay, 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.800 I care more about the short shuttle, the three cone drill, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.680 that short area, quickness, the change of direction, because that is, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.960 you know, with those longer legs, it is a little 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.120 tougher for him when he's in the pocket, a constrained 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.320 pocket to create on his own, when the hole's not 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.160 there and he can't get to the second level. So 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.080 the short, the short shuttle, the three con drill, that 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.000 will tell me a lot more about Derrick Henry than 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.760 the forty yard act. Just in my opinion. I'm gonna 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.360 get back to these, uh, the offensive tackles a little bit. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.040 I want to talk about. I'm talking about a guy 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.080 I was impressed with and I and I you know, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.600 I like i'ma I like Taylor Decker admitted I got 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.160 him as a first round guy. But I'll tell you 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.679 what I like talking to Jack Conklin today. I you 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.480 know what I really and and what surprised me about 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:37.120 Jack Conklin was he talked about a cowboy, a Dallas 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.920 cowboy right now who's been making the news here as 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.960 of late, is one of the most difficult guys that 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.600 he's ever had to face in Randy Gregory right. You 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.719 know when you talk about yeah, he's like, hey man, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.840 that first step, you know, and you're thinking, okay, where's 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:59.480 that guy also mentioned who's been helping him. Yeah, prepare 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:05.160 legendary former Cowboys offensive line coach. Yeah, uh so right, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.400 And so I think that's a couple of Cowboys connections there. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.280 But the thing that struck me with Conklin was, and 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.480 I wrote about this today, was his praise for Connor Cook. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.679 Do you think that was an act? I don't. You know. Obviously, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.800 Conklin seems like a good, good dude. He's gonna stick 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.160 up for his teammates. But I don't think he's going 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.800 it's going to be he's just gonna stick up for 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.760 him just for the heck of it. I think he 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.600 meant everything he said, and now that it's not saying 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.400 that other teammates might disagree, but I think Jack Conklin, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.160 you know what he's he's He called Connor a leader 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.640 on our team, no doubt about it. Talk to anybody 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.120 at Michigan State and you'll get the same answer. So 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.040 positive praise for his quarterback. You know, all of Connor 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.559 Cook's teammates are going to get the same question Obviously 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.960 the negative rumors have been coming from somewhere. Um, they're 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.760 not just made up, so they're still not gonna go 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.959 way just because Jack Conklin says so. But it does 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.640 help Connor throughout this process that he has his left 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.640 tackle sticking up for him. And I think that's a 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.800 good point, Dan, because it wasn't just a broad defense 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.360 of Connor Cook. I mean the questions kind of there 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.760 were a couple more about specific incidents or or you know, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.200 narratives that have taken place over the last few months, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.520 and he was he had his back the whole way. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.360 So I guess the you know, go ask Jack Allen 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.880 the same thing and see if he takes gets Connor 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.840 Cook's back too. But if you if you talk about 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.200 I believe it happened though at the at the Senior Bowls, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.560 some of the buzz started coming down. And maybe I'm 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.720 wrong about this, Dan, but Jack Allen kind of I 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.760 think he started with some comments that were you know, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.920 maybe off the record that were made that the people 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.280 got some people got a hold of that and they 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.720 kind of attributed to you know, well, you know he 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.240 is what he is, that kind of thing. So, you know, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.600 I think that depending on what you think about Connor Cook, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.120 you know, and it's it's nice to have teammates, but 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.880 also that he had a couple of teammates, you know 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.520 say hey, well you know and you know we and 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.000 and scouts don't get to watch the practices at Michigan 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.880 State as far as get to watch a lot of it, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.600 so you don't know what the leadership and all that is, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.000 you know, going on with it. And the fact that 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.720 he wasn't voted to captain, he chose not to go 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.720 to the Senior Bowl. I mean, they're just other contributing factors. Well, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.520 there were four games. I was talked to a Michigan 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.800 State guy. There were four games though that he was 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:28.440 elected captain. He wasn't a permanent captain. He was always 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.360 a rotating captain of the sleet Calhoun, Jack Allen, and 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.800 there was one more, Darien Harris, the linebacker I think 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.360 were the permanent team captains. But another left tackle who 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.000 had a lot of praise, first quarterback Joe Haigh not 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.560 Dakota State. He had some interesting comments saying back in 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.040 twenty eleven when when Carson was a red shirt along 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.720 with Joe, both red shirts, they're on the scout team 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.000 and when Carson was at quarterback, he was by far 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.440 the best quarterback that that the North Dakota State defense 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.480 would face. I mean he and look at some of 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.680 these words that that Joe used to describe Carson amazing, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.600 a servant leader, a master of his craft. I mean, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.280 go on and on. I mean, Joe Haig was basically 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.600 Carson Wentz's agent today with the words that he was 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.680 coming coming up with to describe his quarterback. Uh So 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.520 I think, you know, we see we saw today that 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.640 left tackles protect their quarterbacks not only on the field, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.360 but also off the field. Yeah, that's and and I think, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.720 to me, though, it's really I love this opportunity to 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.400 get to visit with it or at least they hear 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.480 these guys talk. You know, I like that because I 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.160 want to make sure I want to make sure that 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.640 uh the uh that the you know that uh, that 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.200 we get that evaluation not only from the tape, but 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.960 you get to see a little bit. And yeah, I 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.000 think that going back to Stanley a little bit, if 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.560 there's questions about him being soft, you know what, I 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.560 believe you, I believe him a little bit. His his 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.320 personality and again, I don't have dr period in front 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.000 of my name, But I'm just evaluating body language. I'm 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.520 evaluating how, you know, his the confidence. That's why Jack Conklin, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.480 I'm looking at him and I'm thinking, you know what, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.680 this this kid gets it. I'm watching Tunsel. This kid 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.520 gets it, you know. And then all of a sudden, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.640 if I'm a team and I'm interviewing Stanley and he 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.320 has that kind of demeanor, and maybe maybe he's gonna 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.199 be laser focused when he's talking to these teams, and 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.439 maybe it's not like this is a kid from a 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.720 lower school. It is not. But didn't his body language 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.199 and his answers if you were a team, would you 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.520 be concerned? Yeah? Absolutely, And especially because you see it 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.120 on Tabe a little bit. Yeah, you see finesse. And 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.560 today during the interviews, Tounsel and Stanley were back to 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.320 back and it was just the complete opposite of each other. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.639 With a tunsl is up there, jovial and really projecting 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.920 himself and he looked comfortable talking about himself, where Stanley 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.440 he was a complete opposite, very reserved and very h 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.040 scripted to a point, you know, like he knew what 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:05.639 he wanted to say, and he made sure he hit 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.320 on those you know, token points. So, uh, with Tunsel, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:10.800 you know, if you didn't think he was the best 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.199 tackle in this draft before today, I think you know, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.879 it'd only reinforced what your thought. So you sound disappointed 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.840 by that. What's that that you did that he came 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.880 off that way? Uh? Stanley, Yeah, I was shocked. If 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.399 you I was shocked. If you're gonna invest a top 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.800 ten pick and a guy you want, you want a 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.520 mean dude. You want a guy that's up there and 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.040 commands the room and talks about how he's the best 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.440 and how it talks about you just command. Yeah, he was. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.120 He was kind of the same. Tunsel was the best 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.040 interview that I think we saw today, just listening to 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.080 him talk about how he's the best, talking about how 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.560 he wants to go up the road to Nashville and uh, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.480 you know, help Tennessee turn things around. Yeah, I mean 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.359 he was very confident, where with Stanley you didn't get that. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.960 And there the questions with Stanley go back to his 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.800 basketball background. He was a top basket ball recruit out 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.399 of the state of Nevada. As a senior year in 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.320 high school, decided to go to the football route, and 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:07.920 you see it on tape where you just see a 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.520 little finesse, you see a little uh, you know, maybe 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.399 where he's laid back. And I think Stanley knows this. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.479 He's hurt it, and so he addressed it today, and 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.080 but he didn't sell it well enough to exactly the way. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.560 The way that he addressed it seemed to reinforce the 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.480