WEBVTT - Is tone deafness hereditary?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. This is Josh Clark with me. It's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant. Huh huh. You're not a singer, are you? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not, but I can tell you I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not toned death right. Chuck's a little upset with me

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We're going to mend fences during this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't we. We'll see Come sit on this chair now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Frank comes sit here, Frank, sit on Frank now

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<v Speaker 1>ran chair got his first official email. I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the question? I think it was like, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been sitting on you lately? And who would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to sit on you in the future, or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Who do you think? I think probably the

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<v Speaker 1>first person to sit on Frank, as far as we're concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>will be Joe Randazzo maybe right, Uh, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other casters might sit there. No, there are other podcasters.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this thing, Okay, Chuck, I have something of

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<v Speaker 1>a lead in you ready, Yes, have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>of My Way killings. Uh no, no, So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>subcategory of crime of violent crime in the Philippines called

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<v Speaker 1>My Way killings. That's what the media calls it. Frank Sinatra,

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, It's a huge karaoke society. Asia in general,

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<v Speaker 1>rum is pretty into karaoke. The Philippines are super into karaoke,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also have something of a violent society. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it people who botched that song get killed or people

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<v Speaker 1>who are jeered at for singing that song kill in

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<v Speaker 1>return a lot? Um. It's not just Philippines the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least a half a dozen people have been

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<v Speaker 1>documented as having been murdered because of that song in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years. Right, just in the Philippines. It's

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<v Speaker 1>other other songs have been known to um kind of

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<v Speaker 1>erupt violence, like uh, there was a guy who who

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Thailand who killed eight of his neighbors in

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<v Speaker 1>a rage after they sang John Denver's Country Roads Take

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<v Speaker 1>Me Home, apparently not to his liking. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just my Way, but with my Way in the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 1>the this this has the highest frequency of murder or violence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's attendant to it, right, I would sing it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very good year. Maybe that would get me through well.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result, a lot of people do avoid my Way.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't that weird? Okay? So most of the reported

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<v Speaker 1>my Way killings have been due to tone deafness, right,

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<v Speaker 1>actual tone deafness, or they just say people who can't sing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it could go either way, and this is weird in

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<v Speaker 1>and of itself. No, I don't know that anybody's done

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<v Speaker 1>that much investigation, but that is my intro. Chuck, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about tone deafness, which is also called amusia. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, the people in the Philippines don't

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<v Speaker 1>find tone deafness amusing. Thank you, Chris Palette. Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking actual tone deafness, then you're only talking about

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<v Speaker 1>one and twenty people are actually a music so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not very many, not five percent five and uh it

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with deafness. That has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with how your ears work. But this is something

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize. If you're tone deaf, I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that means you can't like sing in a tune in tone,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently you can't hear it either, right, So that

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<v Speaker 1>was surprising to me as well. People who are tone

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<v Speaker 1>deaf are actually faithfully reproducing or recreating what they're hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes me really sad because that means music sounds

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<v Speaker 1>awful of these poor people. Yeah, and apparently one person

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<v Speaker 1>described it as um the sound of pots and pans clanging.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awful, just not cut as anybody who has a

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<v Speaker 1>two year old nose, a two year old and unsecured cabinets. Uh, pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>that was what we're talking about, right, that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>mean when they're talking about tone. Well, that's what underlies it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So so pitch is the frequency of sound, right, You

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<v Speaker 1>have high or low, and that higher low means high

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<v Speaker 1>frequency or low frequency. So a high note it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>just a high frequency note. Low note is a low

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<v Speaker 1>frequency note. Um. And as Tom Sheaf bff, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to reprimand him because he said that piano was plucked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some to the hammer struck. Harpsichords are plucked, so

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<v Speaker 1>are harps. So you need to tell Tom and you

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<v Speaker 1>got this kind of wrong. Give him a break. He

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<v Speaker 1>said that a violin has a violin note has a

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<v Speaker 1>four frequency of four hundred forty wavelengths vibrations per second.

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<v Speaker 1>That wavelength. He also said pianos are plucked. But why

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<v Speaker 1>he said that um erroneously? Was He was just pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out that the length of the string of a stringed

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<v Speaker 1>instrument will determine how high or low the pitches, and

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<v Speaker 1>pitch is what we talked about when we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>tone deafness, and then perfect pitch is on the other

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<v Speaker 1>end of that scale, and only about one in ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people have perfect pitch. Yeah, Chuck, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>question for you. What Dud, Jimmy, Hendrix, um Ingway, Malmstein,

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<v Speaker 1>being Crosby, and Yannie have in common? You mustaches? It's

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<v Speaker 1>no no being cross He didn't have a mustache. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>smoked a pipe. Uh see Ingvy and Jimmy played stratocasters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think being crossby too much thought to this.

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<v Speaker 1>They were from Seattle. No perfect pitch. They all had

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<v Speaker 1>perfect pitch, which is all called also called absolute pitch. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect pitches when you can pick out a note and

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<v Speaker 1>name that note by itself solo without any other relative

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<v Speaker 1>notes around it, and you can duplicate that. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Josh singing a flat, you would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to sing an a flat perfectly. That's way too high.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so that's perfect pitch. But relative pitch is

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<v Speaker 1>what many more people have. Means you can pick out

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<v Speaker 1>a note relative to other notes, right, So somebody can

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<v Speaker 1>play something and then they'll play something else, and you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not be able to, uh say well that's

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<v Speaker 1>an A and that's an E flat or something, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, well that's high and that's low. Right

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<v Speaker 1>exact amundo? Um, did you take that tone deafness test?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I took another one. I didn't click the

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<v Speaker 1>link that you sent me. What what percentage did you score? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's pass this out. This is uh if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to test your own tone quality um www dot d

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<v Speaker 1>E l O s I S dot com dilosis slash

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<v Speaker 1>listening slash home dot html and you can take it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty question. It takes like fifteen to twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I did one in six minutes. Yeah, it's not as thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's two parts to this one, and there's thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>uh thirty pieces to each part. So you basically listened

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<v Speaker 1>to a sound or a series of notes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's followed directly by either the exact same thing or

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<v Speaker 1>something slightly different, and you click same or different. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end, you get your results, and I got I

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<v Speaker 1>got a twenty seven out of thirty on both sides. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's pretty good. I got a seventy seven eight percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's twenty seven thirty percentage wise? Um, Jerry, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around with the advocate kee pulling out your calculating

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<v Speaker 1>I am, but keep talking all right. While you're doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell everybody the site that I took it on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was h T T P Colin slash slash Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Mandel dot com. That's j A K E M A

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<v Speaker 1>N D E l l dot com slash tone deaf.

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<v Speaker 1>One word that's really good. Actually mine was average. And

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<v Speaker 1>that actually makes sense with me because you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>sing in my band and I'm I'm an okay singer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm clearly not like a great singer. Else wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this job and singing in a band in

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<v Speaker 1>my basement. I'd be singing in a band for real,

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<v Speaker 1>So that makes sense. Ten percent of the time, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably sound like crap. See now that's not necessarily true, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>because you should know by now. It's all about who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, Yeah, but I would you could be

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<v Speaker 1>squandering your challenge right now just because you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the right record producer. Yeah, but if you're like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the goods, like I always used Chris Cornell

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<v Speaker 1>as an example, Like the first time that dude sang

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<v Speaker 1>in the shower when he was sixteen, he was probably like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this is what I'm supposed to do with

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<v Speaker 1>my life. When he shattered the windows of his shower

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<v Speaker 1>door and then he um solemnly washed the soap out

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<v Speaker 1>from under his arms, out of the shower a person

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<v Speaker 1>and said I'm gonna form sound Garden and that was that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he should have never stopped. I think they're getting back together.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they should be awesome. Um. All right, So chuck

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<v Speaker 1>pitch actually is not um constant. Did you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that until this article about the elevation

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<v Speaker 1>That really surprised me. Yeah. Uh. Basically, when you pluck

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<v Speaker 1>a piano string um strike, the vibration that it creates

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<v Speaker 1>at sea level is different from the vibration that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to create a higher altitudes. I would imagine because of

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<v Speaker 1>the atmospheric pressure. Right to fix everything, well, it does

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<v Speaker 1>baking pianos, everything athleticism, your ability to live by breathing

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<v Speaker 1>and absorbing oxygen um. So when that when that vibration

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<v Speaker 1>is created, it transfers to the air and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>won War War one and hits our ears, and then

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<v Speaker 1>inside our ears it goes War war and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>to our brain, and we process the sound of the

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<v Speaker 1>tone def people here, you or I, because we have

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<v Speaker 1>relative pitch and we're not tone deaf um and just

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<v Speaker 1>about anybody else who's not tone deaf could say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if if a frequency is off by a few vibrations

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<v Speaker 1>per second, even that slight bit, we would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't sound quite right. Actually, if it were relative

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<v Speaker 1>to a note, like you played one note correctly and

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<v Speaker 1>then another note the same note with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations off per second, you would definitely be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the difference tone off. People apparently can't do this right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like color blindness. It happens in degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>So some people can who are color blind can tell

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<v Speaker 1>red from yellow. They can't really tell black from dark blue.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is another aspect of tone deafness

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, I'd be interested to take the one

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<v Speaker 1>I took again because the ones that I missed there

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<v Speaker 1>were somewhere I was like, oh man, it's it's They

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<v Speaker 1>literally would have like twelve notes and one might be

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<v Speaker 1>the like half a step down from the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>those were really tricky, and I think those are probably

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<v Speaker 1>the ones I missed because some sounded really off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some were obviously off too. So, Chuck, we know some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about tone deafness. What's the explanation, Well, josh, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few potential explanations. We seem to think

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<v Speaker 1>that it is hereditary. It does seem to have a

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<v Speaker 1>genetic basis. Study show that it is hereditary, and twins

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<v Speaker 1>identical twins have scored similarly on pitch tests, which also

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<v Speaker 1>means it's probably hereditary and it likely has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the brain and specifically the arcuate. Fasciculous, nice

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<v Speaker 1>first try. That is pretty good, Chuck. They study that

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's one of the nerve bundles that sends information,

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<v Speaker 1>like so many nerve bundles, and they found that they

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<v Speaker 1>think that one of the roles is to send is

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<v Speaker 1>to send signals concerning the perception of sound. And they

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<v Speaker 1>studied tone deaf people and found that the fibers were

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<v Speaker 1>in fact smaller, and people that were tone deaf than

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<v Speaker 1>non tone deaf, then some of them didn't have them

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<v Speaker 1>at all. There is another right, and and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the amount that was there's relative to the degree of

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<v Speaker 1>tone deafness. Right. So there was also a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>seven study um or the publish study published in a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand issue of two thousand seven issue of Harvard

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<v Speaker 1>Health Letter, which I get mailed to my house. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you wrote it um in my sleep. Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>that the studies showed that people who are tone deaf

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<v Speaker 1>have less white matter connecting and remember the white matters,

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that connects the gray matter, it's the nerve fibers. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They have less white matter conducting the right frontal lobe,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in part responsible for higher thinking, to the

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<v Speaker 1>right temporal lobe where basic sound processing first takes place.

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<v Speaker 1>And they found that the less what the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are tone deaf have less white matter. And among tone

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<v Speaker 1>deaf people, the less white matter you had connecting these

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<v Speaker 1>two regions, the more tone deaf you were. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>the oh, the sorry are quit physics list? I think

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<v Speaker 1>I pronounced it different earlier. So we'll just say merging

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<v Speaker 1>of those two is the correct way, right, So we

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<v Speaker 1>we would say that, yes, it appears to have a

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<v Speaker 1>genetic basis. There's actually if you're in the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>area and you like being a medical guinea pig, you

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<v Speaker 1>should go ahead and look up the study that the

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<v Speaker 1>University of California, San Francisco UM is launching right now

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<v Speaker 1>into tone deafness and its genetic basis. What you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think you probably have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little tone deaf and then you could be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the control group, right yeah, and be a great singer.

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<v Speaker 1>They do say that you cannot improve upon this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take music lessons, you can take singing lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna help you. If your tone deaf, you're

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<v Speaker 1>born with it. And if you do find out your

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<v Speaker 1>tone deaf, stay out of the Philippines. Yes, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was another and of course this is of perception to tone.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't necessarily mean like you're a bad singer, although

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<v Speaker 1>that that would make you a bad singer. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can also be a bad singer if you're not tone deaf.

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<v Speaker 1>And well this you probably fall into one of these categories.

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<v Speaker 1>In a couple of neuroscientists did a study in from

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<v Speaker 1>the University of New York at Buffalo and Simon Fraser University,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said there's likely for explanations. Poor music perception

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<v Speaker 1>is one, which would be tone deaf um. The other

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<v Speaker 1>might be poor control of your vocal system, yeah, thick

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<v Speaker 1>tongue perhaps, And another might be inability to imitate or

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<v Speaker 1>mimic something. So you hear the sound and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it correctly and you know what it is, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still can't make it right. And that was something that

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<v Speaker 1>occurred to me while we were doing the research for

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<v Speaker 1>this article, that there's there. It seems like there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a basis for um flawed memory storagereating it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. The fourth reason it's just bad memory. Between

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<v Speaker 1>the time you hear it and when you sing it back,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually forget what the notes were. Too much scotch

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<v Speaker 1>and he likens it to like a baseball player. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you can know how to hit a curveball, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can be a professional baseball player know how to

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<v Speaker 1>swing a bat, but that still to mean you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit the curveball nice so you can hear the note.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not be tone deaf, you might think you

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<v Speaker 1>can mimic it, but when it comes out of your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not quite Frank Black. After all. I saw Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Black just this very week. It was it good? I

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<v Speaker 1>had my friends said it was they phoned it in. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I disagree. Really, I could have definitely handled

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more um songs from Um Trump Plamon. They

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<v Speaker 1>played pretty much all of Doolittle. Yeah that was the tour,

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<v Speaker 1>right play and Doolittle. I didn't know that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was there actually, but yeah, it was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. These guys are old back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>so they might be jaded old people. They played like

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<v Speaker 1>Winter Long and um not. I mean as far as

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<v Speaker 1>just phoning it in are old. You know my friends

0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.520
<v Speaker 1>who said they phoned it in, our dudes who saw

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<v Speaker 1>them back in the eighties and nights, they might have

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<v Speaker 1>been all they phoned it and they're just being I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was cool. Cool stage show too. They were

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<v Speaker 1>all dressed like stage hands. Yeah what's the stage chand

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:11.360
<v Speaker 1>dress like dark clothes really, and Joey's just bald as

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Black is now. Yeah, man, he still plays that

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<v Speaker 1>gold top. Donety the less Paul, I don't know I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even say, Chuck, don't ask me if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about tone deafness and find out the

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<v Speaker 1>uh what the one article that Tom Sheep got something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong in looks like type tone deaf into the search

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<v Speaker 1>bar how stuff works dot com. Oh, while we're at it,

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<v Speaker 1>before we move on to listra mill, have you heard

0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of Paul Data? I think it's d A T E

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<v Speaker 1>H and DJ inco one. No, dude, it's this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like fifteen, looking perfect. He has absolute pitch, has

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<v Speaker 1>violent and he's just playing along with a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>looks like his cousin who's a DJ. They're playing like

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<v Speaker 1>tribe called Quest and far Side and he's playing it

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<v Speaker 1>on the violins um along with his DJ cousin, who's

0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you know DJing Really cool. I'll have to put that

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<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook page when we release it. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait that long as you could do? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We could do that all right? Well, how about listener mail, Chuck?

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.920
<v Speaker 1>We are not doing listener mail because we have some

0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.119
<v Speaker 1>important events coming up that we'd like to share, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would also like to build up our Facebook presence. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we really were, because we've noticed that there are people

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<v Speaker 1>that participate on our Facebook page without liking it, which

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<v Speaker 1>I understand you might not want it in your news feed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it helps us out when you like it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you not want that in your news fere you

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed that you listen to us? Who knows, some people

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.480
<v Speaker 1>just don't like. Like I liked a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>initially before all this stuff started happening, and now I

0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.239
<v Speaker 1>get everything in my news feed, and so I've had

0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.959
<v Speaker 1>to unlike some of it because I don't. I love Calexico,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to see what Calexico has to

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<v Speaker 1>say every day. I thought you were saying, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Twitter's for. I thought you were saying like

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<v Speaker 1>people wouldn't want other people to see that they were

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<v Speaker 1>fans of stuff. You should know, Well that may don't

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.040
<v Speaker 1>want our yes coming up in there, and perhaps, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're post that now. We don't post that much, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we do post, it's pretty worthwhile. So we would

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to hit the like button because that makes

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<v Speaker 1>us look good. Our boss when when he sees a

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.240
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of fans, he doesn't like write us a

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<v Speaker 1>check or anything, but yet it's a good thing for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'd appreciate if you liked our our Facebook page. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, so that's a Facebook, Twitter, s y s

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<v Speaker 1>K podcast. We occasionally say something worth chuckling at, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very often. And then let's do the Atlanta event. A. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a couple of things in mid October coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is a non sanction event, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can rub elbows with us if you want to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the Drunken Unicorn on East pot sti Leon October twelfth, Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Our buddies, the Henry Clay people of l a or

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<v Speaker 1>playing a rock and roll show, headlining gig concert concert

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<v Speaker 1>and you can come and it'll be a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very small venue, so like a big party. Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>are you coming? She said, yes, ma'am. Serr's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be dressed as Thomas pinch On. Wow, you really like

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<v Speaker 1>that one. That's good? Thank you? Uh? Anything else? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should be like, good night, everybody know.

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<v Speaker 1>The following night October is the sanctioned trivia event, the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Trivia the Five Seasons Brewery west Side evening

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<v Speaker 1>hours probably around six just just block out six to eleven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And on our celebrity team, we have Joe Randazzo, editor

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<v Speaker 1>of The Onion. Dave Willis the co creator of Aquitine

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<v Speaker 1>Hunger Force and Squidbillies, who I've got to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really looking forward to meeting. Squid Billies is so twisted

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<v Speaker 1>and awesome. Um. What I do sometimes the Squidbillies is

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<v Speaker 1>just close my eyes and you just imagine it's just

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<v Speaker 1>real rednecks. Then you open your eyes in their squids

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<v Speaker 1>and it's even funnier. Uh. And then of course Mr

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 1>John Hodgman. Yes, I'm gonna get him to sign my

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<v Speaker 1>books that I've read of his, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get him to stay overnight at my house. Good luck

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, I'm gonna be like, sorry, the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>we book burned down my seriously. Yeah, Um, that's it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to send us an email, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to hear about chook? Oh? How about

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<v Speaker 1>some karaoke stories? Oh that's a good one. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been beaten up in the Philippines or you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good karaoke story, we want to hear it. Greatest

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<v Speaker 1>karaoke songs of all time? How about that? Yeah, we'll

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