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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players

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Speaker 1: Laue broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star No. Your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's Friday, baby, It's Friday, and there's a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of topics to get to right here on the Players House,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Newey Scruggs, a

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Speaker 1: longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys players,

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Speaker 1: make up the Players Knowledge Danny McCray and Barry Church. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: how are we doing on Friday? Doing? Craig doing great? Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a little cloudy, a little rainy, but you know, overall,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we want the players now, so it's

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Speaker 1: a great day. Yeah, man, same here I got. I

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Speaker 1: got no complaints. It wasn't freezing, it was no snow,

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Speaker 1: We got heating water. I'm excited to get into these

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Speaker 1: topics now because I know I'm about to have to

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Speaker 1: go back and forth with a newly for a minute.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's what We're gonna jump off the top

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Speaker 1: rope right now. You see the hats us. Okay, fight all, baby,

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Speaker 1: fight all because Tyrans Smith has come out. It's spoken.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from the Cowboys left tackle right now, play

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Speaker 1: it being played. Me play for the Cowboys for ten seasons.

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Speaker 1: They goes by quake. It seems like just yesterday you

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Speaker 1: got drafted down. I think on two year eleven, I

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Speaker 1: want to prove everyone and puts myself that no, even

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Speaker 1: after being a year out, that I'm coming back stronger

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Speaker 1: than ever, that the next is not gonna be a problem,

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Speaker 1: and the back's not gonna be a problem. Just proven

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Speaker 1: that everybody could still play at the same level I

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Speaker 1: always been playing with. My name is Tyrren. Yeah, sir,

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Speaker 1: got it? You got it bad? Yes, sir. Well, he's ready.

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Speaker 1: That's what I means. Carson's Carson. What's said that after

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Speaker 1: he came from Anybody's talking about Anybody's talking about Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz right now talking about Tyn Smith. He's bad, He's ready,

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Speaker 1: He's ready to get that blind side handled. We don't

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Speaker 1: need no officer attack on the first round. We don't

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Speaker 1: need that fight off said I was next in the

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Speaker 1: Hip are ready to roll. Tyren Smith is ready to go. Baby,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Pet Man says he here me go. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying all these people can come back and say I

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Speaker 1: got something to prove. Clay Thompson said here something to prove,

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Speaker 1: came out and then got hurt again just because you said,

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Speaker 1: don't make it true. You better put some respect. You

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Speaker 1: better put some respect on my point. Tyn's name out here, man,

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Speaker 1: he's back. He's ready. Listen. Let me tell you this.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. I know for like one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent fact that he believes everything he just said.

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Speaker 1: But if you go back in history and look at it,

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Speaker 1: we I have reason to believe different, and so do

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Speaker 1: y'all too. I hope that he's healthy, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: hingering my playoffs and my Super Bowl run on the

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Speaker 1: health of Tyrant Smith. That's just not what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Well, I can offer to tackle chain.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it from Danna. I can believe it

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Speaker 1: from Dan. I can believe how much money, Okay, how

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Speaker 1: much money are y'all betting on it? If y'all was

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Speaker 1: making a bet right now, you're putting your house on

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Speaker 1: that the Tyres Smith stays healthy the whole year. We

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Speaker 1: never never, we never said, we never said he was

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Speaker 1: staying healthy the whole So you twisted, now you twisted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what I'm nearly saying, you just twisted it because you

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Speaker 1: said you said you stay healthy the whole year. We

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Speaker 1: never We've never come on this. Yeow you said what

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Speaker 1: I'm telling We never did say that we're healthy. We

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Speaker 1: all we said was we don't need an offer to

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Barry, Thank you knew it. Ask you specifically

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Speaker 1: asked for that clip of him saying that he's ready

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Speaker 1: before the last two or three years. So that was

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Speaker 1: you insinuating that Tyre Smith said he's gonna be healthy,

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Speaker 1: so we don't need no tackle. Is an not at ten?

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Speaker 1: We are not churching eut together on this that we

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. Okay, stop trying to twist it

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Speaker 1: in us saying we never said he was playing sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: But we never said they didn't need a backup plan.

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Speaker 1: We never said they can't use a draft pick later

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Speaker 1: you want to pay him? How much is he getting paid? Like?

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Speaker 1: What twenty? What's the cap hit this year? Knew I

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Speaker 1: think it's fourteen. He's round fourteen, ain't he? So? So

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Speaker 1: you want so you want to You want to pay

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Speaker 1: that you need a true backup playing for him because

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Speaker 1: that fifteen million dollars is not going to play sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: You already know that, and you still want to move

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Speaker 1: forward with it. So you want to get an interior,

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round that's like taking the Church stands.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting there acting like, if we get this tackle

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Speaker 1: be successful. Church Church. Let me come back at you

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Speaker 1: your own this, all right. The offensive tackle that we

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Speaker 1: need is probably not gonna be there at ten because

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Speaker 1: of you, And like we talked about smashing the water

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Speaker 1: bolding and winning those extra games, we are no longer

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Speaker 1: you guys are maybe right, but I still think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go and pick somebody. But Peney Sue is the

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Speaker 1: guy who who I say we should pick. But you know,

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Speaker 1: since you want to make your playoff running, Andy, don'ton

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Speaker 1: to win this year? You want to win this year.

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Speaker 1: You want to get better on defense this year? Church,

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Speaker 1: or I would like to pain are you playing for

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Speaker 1: the future because the last guy from Alabama who he

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Speaker 1: You didn't like what you saw. You ain't like what

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Speaker 1: you saw from Biggs. He had his ups and downs,

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Speaker 1: But did you see who he went against those first

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Speaker 1: us the rookie because they're gonna be your two starting guys.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it's gonna get any easier. For

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Speaker 1: work without the back does not work without the front.

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Speaker 1: You know, so bad doing with facts here? Kept doing

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Speaker 1: with facts? Okay, the back door work without the front

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Speaker 1: is a quote for Warren Sapp. Okay, it's a quote

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Speaker 1: for Warren Sapp, who kind of understands exactly how the

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Speaker 1: front works. The linebackers look bad because you had dudes

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Speaker 1: the second level of the jump street. The cowboys gave

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Speaker 1: up two thousand, five hundred and forty one yards of rushing,

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Speaker 1: the second most in Anti's history. Okay, when they weren't

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Speaker 1: running it down your throat, they were throwing it over you.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about dicks, and I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can debate this at all. The defensive backs they had,

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Speaker 1: the one spot where you say, hey, here they be

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Speaker 1: here's a guy who can improve the Say what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: What I'm telling you, Look, what I'm telling you is

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Speaker 1: this is how bad this thing is. Overall. They need

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Speaker 1: to address this. You don't need to be taking a

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Speaker 1: tackle at ten. You need to try and get some

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Speaker 1: impact that We had Nate Newton, three time probe Super

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Speaker 1: when we sit there, to me, you pick it our Digs.

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Speaker 1: he was ready to win next year. We all said

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Speaker 1: the Dig has the put Digs has the potential to

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Speaker 1: so Nui and Knwi, let's not blame the D line.

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Speaker 1: the mad Yeah, so if you, so, if you, if

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Speaker 1: you're taking the offensive tackle, you're taking a line in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Are you saying that this is a rebuild,

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Speaker 1: we're entering into a rebuild phase. But take of his

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Speaker 1: we got digs in the second round. We got digs

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Speaker 1: in the second round. DeMarcus Lawrence is the second round pick.

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Speaker 1: some tackles a lot of times, go ahead and go

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Speaker 1: ahead and shot, and you still you still haven't name

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Speaker 1: Name the guy you're picking the number ten on the

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Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman who's going to make that number one

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Speaker 1: impact with Neube Gallamore playing next to him? Can I finish? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Can I Can I talk? Can I talk without you?

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Speaker 1: Can I talk without you interrupt him? Okay? Absolutely? As

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Speaker 1: programs and what am I missing? I see Russell Wilson.

425
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Speaker 1: Then they want to throw out and play the whole

426
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Speaker 1: Will you trade Russell Wilson for Dak Prescott because Russell

427
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Wilson's agent said, no, he hasn't requested a trade. But

428
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: he gladly go to Dallas, he gladly go to Chicago,

429
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: he gladly go to the Raiders, he gladly go to

430
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. So they're out here planting the seeds,

431
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: so they want to talk about would you trade Dak

432
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: Prescott for Russell Wilson? And I don't know, man, I

433
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: think ESPN is just just got it in for Cowboys

434
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: content to just throw out the craziest stuff. It doesn't

435
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Why are we still having a conversation about his dad

436
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: worth forty million? He's gonna get the forty million. Used

437
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: to say, is he worth thirty? So now you accept

438
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: that he's worth thirty. I mean this is gonna happen.

439
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. I mean, he's definitely worth I would

440
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: say forty minute. That's just what the market says. I

441
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: mean people may say, oh, he's not a top five,

442
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: he's not an elite quarterback, but look, that's just what

443
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: the market dictates. His time's up, and it's all about timing.

444
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: It's not if you're the greatest at your position, or

445
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: if you're the middle of the pack. But if you

446
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: come up right on time and you have a people

447
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: have a need for your services, you can put out

448
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: what you want and usually you're gonna get it when

449
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: it comes to that timing of free agency and all

450
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: that stuff. But at the end of the day, shout

451
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: out to Jerry Jones and the Boys who always keep

452
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the Star relevant in ESPN. I mean, no matter what

453
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: is going, we could be four and twelve or we

454
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: could be thirteen and three, don't matter what it is,

455
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a Dallas Cowboys story on some type

456
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: of ESPN or Fox Sports. You're gonna have it. J

457
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: Jones's a genius. But back to the question, I don't

458
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: think it is just no way in hell they should

459
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: even think about trading Dak and Russell West, Russell Wilson

460
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I wouldn't do it at all.

461
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: All Right, we still got a defense to fix. At

462
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we don't need another headache

463
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: of coming in bringing this Russell Wilson in there. What

464
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: is he gonna do different that Dak hasn't done with this,

465
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: that the defense that he has. I mean his defensive

466
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: Seattle is better than ours and they still haven't been

467
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: out in the first round since since he was making

468
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: super Bowls back with the Legion of Boom. I mean,

469
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he is a good quarterback, but I don't

470
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: think he's that much better better than Dak Prescott to

471
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: where he can come here and lead this team with

472
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: the defense he has to the Super Bowl. I just

473
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: don't believe it. On the defense again, man, Okay, it's

474
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: a problem. Fix man, my man, Dad quick, gonna get

475
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: it taken care of. Like y'all can guarantee. You can

476
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: guarantee one thing. The defense will look totally different. Even

477
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: if you have the same players minus a cornerback, they

478
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: would look totally better than they look in the previous year,

479
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: which is historically bad. When you're historically bad, there's only

480
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: one way to go, and that's up. Dan Quinn is

481
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: going to get him right now. Also on why these

482
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: these networks keep talking about Dak Prescott every day, Well,

483
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: the Church said it. It's Jerry Jones and Steven Jones fault.

484
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: If you have paid the man two years ago, then

485
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: this won't even be a conversation now. What's every day.

486
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: It's every day you're trying to figure out what is

487
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: going on with Dak Prescott. The man goes out there,

488
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: break his ankle. A nice franchise tag Tom again, Like

489
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: it's it's not ESPN's fault, it's the Cowboys fault. You

490
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: should take care of this and then allow everybody to

491
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: move on. But we're gonna talk about it as well,

492
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: because we're still sitting here wonder why won't you pay

493
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: this dude? Like he's done everything he can for You

494
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: got him on a discount. Now it's time to pay

495
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: him two years ago, you don't do it. Tying to

496
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: pay him last year, you don't do it. Go ahead,

497
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: get a man a contract forget Russell Wilson, let him

498
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: go to Chicago. We don't lead them. I believe in

499
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: that here more than I believe in Russell Wilson. Here

500
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: the franchise, the franchise tag deadline for the Cowboys March nine,

501
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: March nine at three pm. And if they do put

502
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: the franchise tag on, it'll be thirty seven point seven

503
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: million dollars. One of the things that I kind of

504
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: laugh at as I was watching this panel, say how

505
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: much better they thought Russell Wilson was and Dak Prescott

506
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: did they forget the last time they played in the playoffs,

507
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's team beat Russell Wilson's team, And if Church

508
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: you kind of alluded to it since they got away

509
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: from being a defensive team, since they basically had to

510
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: get rid of the legion of boom through contracts in age,

511
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: and it's been about Russell Wilson, who got paid big money. See,

512
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: I've not done anything really. I mean, they've made the playoffs.

513
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, they've been winning, but they have not gone deep.

514
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: They have not been a super Bowl caliber team. That

515
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And one of the things I read

516
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: in an article in The Athletic is how Russ started

517
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: off super hot and obviously this year against the Cowboys,

518
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: he had a fantastic game. But Pete Carroll said, Man,

519
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: we're throwing it way too much this guy. That's too

520
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: many turnovers. I don't want this to be about Russell Wilson.

521
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: This is a part of the problem. The head coach

522
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: doesn't believe this guy can go out on his arm

523
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: alone and win. He wants to run the football. So

524
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: when people talk about trading for Russell Wilson giving up

525
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: three number one, ask yourself this, why has that guy?

526
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll, who's done a lot of winning at

527
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: the collegiate pro level, said I don't think this guy

528
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: can sit up here and sling it a la Brady

529
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: la Banning. I'm not doing that. That's something I just

530
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: wonder about. How come people aren't talking, you know, more

531
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: about here with Russell Wilson. That's you know, that's true.

532
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: I also heard Russell Wilson went up in there and

533
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: said he wanted some protection on the officive line, and

534
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: they see it in different way. So he's asking to

535
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: get up out of there with that no trade clause,

536
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: which is he's using his leverage, so you know, I'm

537
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: not gonna touch on my on my knee for the

538
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: old line again with that one. But this is a

539
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: perfect example of the NFL finally turning into something similar

540
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: to what the NBA does with these no trade clauses

541
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: and giving the players a little bit more power to

542
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: ask for trades and then demand where they get traded

543
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: to and putting that putting that leverage up against the organization.

544
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the players having more power.

545
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't like Russell Wilson coming here to Dallas. But

546
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Jones just has everybody confused. This wouldn't

547
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: even be a topic if we had already just went

548
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: ahead to pay that Dak Prescott, and if for you

549
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: knew it, if they franchise tag that from March's ninth

550
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: all the way up into the deadline for them to

551
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: make a deal, They're gonna be talking about Dak Prescott

552
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: every day up until then. So we I think we

553
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: got a lot a lot more time to talk about

554
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. You're correct, You're correct, Danny. You said something here,

555
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: and I want to I want to ask you this

556
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: because you have this solid belief that, hey, dan Quinn

557
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: is going to be the elixir here. If I go

558
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: back to the year after the Super Bowl for the

559
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta defense, and by the way, Dan was calling those

560
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: plays in that Super Bowl game which they blew the

561
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: twenty five point lead, those Falcons defenses weren't good. So

562
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: why are you of the belief that Dan Quinn is

563
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: going to come to Dallas and just be the elixor

564
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and the fixer, mister fix it for the Cowboys when

565
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: he couldn't fix his own defense. In Atlanta ended up

566
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: firing himself two years ago as the coordinator let Raheem

567
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Morris take off. Was was dan Quinn also the head

568
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: coach in Atlanta when that happened, Yes, yes he was.

569
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: He was. He was the head coach. I'm saying when

570
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: when you get a guy sometimes like Rob Marinelli. Rob

571
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Marinelli is a great to me defensive coordinator, head coach.

572
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, the history, the history, the history history of him.

573
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: Happened to focus on everything doesn't work. I think you

574
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: know when I say great defensive coordinator, I mean his

575
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: his best asset is being a defensive coordinator, not a

576
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: head coach. I believe the same thing is for dan Quinn.

577
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: His best asset is being specifically a defensive coordinator, focusing

578
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: on one aspect of a team. And I think it's

579
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: going to show this year where he doesn't have to

580
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: have the onus of answering the owners and answering about

581
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: all the mistakes they make on offensive specialties when he

582
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: just has to focus on defense, I think he's going

583
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: to be great at doing. But but d Mac, how

584
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: can you believe in the man who fired himself? He

585
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't even believe in himself at the defensive position. So

586
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: he fired himself from the position. And you think he's

587
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: gonna come here and be that elixir and get these

588
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: guys back to that twenty eighteen for him. Too much responsibility, man,

589
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: he realized, said, man, I got too much on the plate.

590
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Let me back off. You stund like me and big

591
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: mic Man. You sound like me, MICUs. That's what I

592
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: feel like. Listen, I feel like it's gonna you're gonna

593
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: see it. You're gonna see it. Y'all have faith in

594
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff last year and I didn't, and I

595
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: was right. I said dan Quinn was coming to Dallas.

596
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: Y'all said I was wrong. Now I'm saying he's gonna

597
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: turn the defense around, and I'm right, And y'all just

598
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: had to sit there and watch this. I just I

599
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: just want to know how is he going to be

600
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: able to do this. He just doesn't have those pieces.

601
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a linebacker, he doesn't have it, he

602
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have the interior. I just fascinated to see how

603
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna do this. So so listen, I

604
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: think last year one of the biggest, the biggest mistakes

605
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: that was made on defense was trying to change this

606
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: thing into the three to four. I think that was

607
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: the first huge setback, trying to change the team and

608
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: players that run a four to three into three to

609
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: four with not enough time to learn how to do it.

610
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Learn those those gaps, learn those angles, learn how to

611
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. I don't think they had enough

612
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: time to implement that defense. I think you have four

613
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: three players, players that you picked specifically to play in

614
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: a four to three, and he gotten used to play

615
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: in that defense, and then all of a sudden, you say, hey, man,

616
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: we got no off season, we got a new coach.

617
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna come out here and do something different. You

618
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: got d Law standing with his hands up, guys coming

619
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: here saying they don't feel comfortable doing that, and you

620
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: still try to run. I think that was the biggest

621
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: issue that we had, and it started at all set

622
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: and uh, the four three is gonna fix it. Man,

623
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: Ye Dad's gonna come here with some magic beans. Right,

624
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: It's just some magic beans. You sprinkle some beans, and

625
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: Tristan Hiller plan sprinkle some beans, and Nena Gallimore gonna

626
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: be Aaron Donald and okay, listen, come in, come up, y'all.

627
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: The Mike the Mike McCarthy, the Mike McCarthy guys. Y'all

628
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: can laugh all y'all want to, but y'all are the

629
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: same cooler. Ain't drinking, dude. I got off that mall

630
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: to man. I got off that you well, you was

631
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: on the narcotic You got a pixel with two of

632
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: mccarthur airthing. This is true. This and he was back

633
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: and forth on the kool aid all season, and y'all

634
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: were saying, laughing about Bard queer, y'all should be laughing

635
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: about what y'all believe this entire season that led us

636
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: to the record that we got and now were picking it.

637
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: We couldn't even get losing games right to get us

638
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: a tighto. We had to get picked. Y'all was over

639
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: talking about yeah, yeah, come on like them on, like

640
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruise. I've already been on my apology tour. Okay,

641
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: all right, it was a mistake. I was wrong, Okay.

642
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I believed in Jerry and Stephen Jones about Mike McCarthy.

643
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I drank the kool aid. I've already apologized, Okay, Okay,

644
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I was wrong. How many times I got it? How

645
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: many times do I had to die on this sword

646
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: to make you feel good about this, mccra I was

647
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: believing in the ram pistol. That's the only thing we

648
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: was walking about. But what I so, you make a mistake, Church,

649
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: and here's what you do. You go back and you

650
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: say this, you know what I just believed and what

651
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I was being told. And I sat there and said,

652
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: you know what, the guy's got a super Bowl and

653
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I'll admit, my, my, my. I was so tired of

654
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. I was ready for any and everything and

655
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: was just ready just bring something else. Okay, I didn't

656
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: dive deep enough into it. I made a mistake. You

657
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: sound like a politician. You sound like a politician. That

658
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: sound like a crew, that sound like ter crews, that

659
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: sound like ter crews. It sound like that like you

660
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't get that. But he didn't get that for nothing. Man.

661
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: But I'm writing that because I've gone back and corrected

662
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: my mistakes. So I'm now asking the question, what are

663
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: you bringing to help dan Quinn. You want to tell

664
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: me the carpenter is gonna be good, but I need

665
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: the carpenter to have tools. Danny with crank that's what

666
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: I need. I know what you y'all Church, First, of

667
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: all church. What do you say you was wrong about?

668
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: You said you was only wrong about two things this year. Yeah, no,

669
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: I was only wrong thing about one. You know, one

670
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: we didn't make the play and didn't make the playoffs

671
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: and then believe it in the ram pistol. That was

672
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: That was it. You know, after week twelve, I thought

673
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: the shore he was he was, he was the answer.

674
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: But I was wrong about that. I was dead wrong

675
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: about that one. Charon, Charon man, he let me down.

676
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: But but but dan Quinn we he needs to like

677
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: my boy knew, he no, like my boy knew. He said,

678
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: he needs his tool. We don't have a kJ right.

679
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: We might have something in the cliff april, like a

680
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: like a d law, we might have something in that,

681
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: but we don't have a kJ right. We ain't got

682
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: a camp chancellor right now. We don't got a Earl

683
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Thomas and I mean dig dis got a chance. But

684
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: we need we need somebody else. We need somebody else

685
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: on it literally, it literally sounds like you guys are saying,

686
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: if we don't pick defense in the first round, then

687
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: you member will scrapped the whole season. You know what

688
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying All that I'm saying if this it sounds

689
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: like if we if we pick offense in the first round,

690
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: we don't pick defense, then you you're saying that there's

691
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: no way for the defense to be good, Like we

692
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: don't have three, four or five and round seven to

693
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: pick seven to pick defensive players? Are chances with dwindle churches?

694
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Don't let don't let Danny, don't let Danny do this this,

695
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: see this up this one in the box news tricks.

696
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: You're trying to get the one about this? Don't let

697
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Danny take you here to the water? Well, what about

698
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: what you guys say about correct? What about that? No, No,

699
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: we talked about dan Quinn. Look if you can tell

700
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: if you can take if you're taking a tenth pick

701
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: in the draft, all right, and that's supposed to be

702
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: what you talk about the best, you know, best one

703
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: hundred two hundred players in the league. You got an

704
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to take possibly the tenth best one and maybe

705
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: maybe the fourth or fifth best defensive player. Because if

706
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: we expect quarterbacks to go up there, why are you

707
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: passing on that to say we're gonna wait till forty

708
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: four to try and address them. Address the position a

709
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: position to need. That's all we're saying, church something to

710
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: what about this? Maybe you better than that. I'll tell

711
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: you better than that. First of all, I told you

712
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: why already, and we already we already addressed the fact

713
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna answer the question anyway about if

714
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Pena Sewel was there, would you take them? So we

715
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: already adds that. So that's fine. No, no, no, I'm not.

716
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm going defense. I'm going defense. Are you opposed?

717
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: Are you opposed to a linebacker from Penn State? I

718
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: do it. I prefer the corner. If I'm sitting there,

719
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: prefer the corner. And I'm telling you, oh, to me

720
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: the old, to me what I and this is just me. Okay,

721
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not the Jones family. But if I'm

722
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: sitting there at ten, and if these quarterbacks are as

723
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: hot as people are making them out in it's February, Okay,

724
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: we got a long time to go to April. But

725
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: if we get to April and somebody's sitting up here

726
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: thinking that Matt Jones or Justin Fields as a guy

727
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: they gotta have at ten, And if I can move

728
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: down five to seven spots and still get a corner

729
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: and pick up a third or pick up a second.

730
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it because I think this defense needs

731
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: more pieces and and Danny wouldin that. And I'm telling

732
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: you I would not be opposed that the Cowboys using

733
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: a second or third or I pick on a tackle.

734
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: But at ten, I'm trying to find the best defensive

735
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: player I can to plug in a defense. It needs help,

736
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: That's all I'm say. I know what's wrong with you. Know.

737
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: I know what's wrong, man, I know what's wrong. And

738
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I I didn't want to go here, all right. I

739
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to go here the show. I didn't want

740
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: to go here, right. But I'm looking behind you, and

741
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you're missing something. And I think a little piece of

742
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: you went with that, that Fantasy football trophy. So now

743
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: you feel a little salty. And that's why you all

744
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: this energy today. You got this negative know when you

745
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: gave up the trophy? Man, oh man, why don't you

746
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: still hold that? Why don't you Is that a replica y'all?

747
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: For this? Man? Oh man? Now, okay, defense in the

748
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: first round, whatever you guys want. Man, I just my

749
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: whole thing is I don't I don't trust Tyres Smiss health.

750
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: I trust him as a player. I think he still

751
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: has the talent. I still think he can do it.

752
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: But sometimes your body just says no. And we've we've

753
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: seen it, you know every year when a lot of players,

754
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: a lot of different positions. Once you start having these

755
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: issues back and nick in games, this stuff only continues.

756
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: You are, Danny. I'm not dismissing your point. Church and

757
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I are not saying what what you just said right

758
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: there is wrong. All we're saying is we'll address it

759
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: later in the draft, not in the first round, not

760
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: in the first round, probably not in the David backt

761
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: Yard is a fourth round draft pick. You took Eric Williams,

762
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: who was a great tackle on Super Bowl teams. Here

763
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: he was a third round pick. You can find offensive

764
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: tackles outside of the first round, and if you're not

765
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: getting the best one in Piney Soul, I definitely would

766
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: be doing it in the first round. That's all. You

767
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: can find cornerbacks well rounds. Richard Sermons drafted in. I'm

768
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: saying you, like you can't find any player nlater round.

769
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: You can. You can do that with any player. You

770
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: can find players in the later rounds at cornerback and

771
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: a linebacker and a safety. You can do that. You

772
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: don't need a first round guy for you to have

773
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: the top nights defense. You don't need that same But

774
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: the same thing with offensive tackle. My preference is sure

775
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: up a guy who's over. The last couple of seasons

776
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: really put us in a buy by missing games. Really,

777
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: it's one of the most noticeable things that happens on

778
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: offenses when Tyren Smith is out of the game. It

779
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: is so obvious that we need some help back. Then

780
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: we all sit here and talk about eight man. You

781
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: gotta we need to find an offensive coordinator to figure

782
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: out the way to bring a tight end over or

783
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: put the back over to the chip. This is something

784
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: we consistently have to talk about for the last two

785
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: years because of Tyren Smith and this year LC two.

786
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: But Tyren Smith has been two years in a row.

787
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: We can get him in the fourth. I think we're

788
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: sitting here we have different ways to you. You are

789
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: about this offensive tackle Church and I are looking at

790
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: this defense and seeing this holes all over. I mean,

791
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: we just have we have different philosophies on what the

792
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: cowboy teams you to fix it. Now, I'll say this,

793
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: if you draft, let's just say, okay, if you your

794
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: scenario comes true, the Pinai soul is sitting there at

795
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: ten and you take pinay suit. If Tyron Smith is healthy,

796
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: what are you doing with piney suit? I told you

797
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: what I was doing Tyren Smith early. I'm not going

798
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to reiterate. You're gonna you'll cut it.

799
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna come back with him if letting him go away,

800
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: If I got away to say some bread, I'm moving on.

801
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: But you're gonna say I'm not. I'm not the GM

802
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not attached to Tyres Smith like Jerry Jones

803
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: and Steve and Stephen Jones are. That's not me. I'm

804
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: doing fantasy footballing and all that type of substitute. So yeah,

805
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: and that's it. Didn't even that That's something that we

806
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: got to make sure we are. Our players, lounge, podcastle

807
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: and listeners understand. There's and maybe maybe that's my fault

808
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: for not setting it setting it up more. There's things

809
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: we would do, and then there's things the way the

810
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: Jones family does them. The Jones family is they keep

811
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: a player a year too long. You know, Bill Belichick

812
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: will get rid of him a year even two years

813
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: too early. The Jones family is gonna keep a guy

814
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: until they know that the gas is empty on the

815
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: dude in the car won't run anymore. That's just how

816
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: they do it. Okay. I go back and look at

817
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: Flozell items. That was how they did it. It was

818
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the nineties when they had some

819
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: guys who just couldn't go anywhere. That was how That's

820
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: how they are. They're loyal like that. And considering the

821
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: fact that restructure Tyrant Smith contract, I don't see him

822
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: going anywhere, even if you get your Pinai Seul dream,

823
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't see him going anywhere. So pinae Seul probably

824
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: be sitting on the bench. If tiring is hurt, I mean,

825
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: the tiring is healthy, waiting on them to get hurt.

826
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: And under your scenario, so you're gonna sit up here

827
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: and watch this guy sit on it. He gonna sit

828
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: on the bench and wait until I mean, just just

829
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: considering what you're saying here, So okay, his defense is

830
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: getting cooked while we giving up thirty five games that Prescott.

831
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: You know, that's the moves that the cow Boys made.

832
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would I would have won a

833
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: different way. With Tyren Smith specifically because of his health,

834
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: not because him as a person, not because him as

835
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: a player and what he's able to do, just the

836
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't been available. And when when you

837
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: look at players, especially when you look at players and

838
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: you pick them up in the draft, pick them up

839
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: in free agency, the first thing you say is is

840
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: he available? Is he a god that's able to stay

841
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: on the field. And you know, if you were looking

842
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: at Tyren Smith and you were gonna pick him up

843
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: as a free agent now, or if you was gonna

844
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: draft them, You'll be like, I don't know, this dude

845
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: might slip into the third or four. The man said,

846
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. We gotta take a break.

847
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906
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: interior defensive line right now, You've got three dudes. You've

907
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Speaker 1: got Neville Gallimore who they drafted last year. You got

908
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Speaker 1: Triston Hill who was drafted two years ago. But Tristan

909
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Hill missed last season after he towards ACL in October.

910
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Speaker 1: Then he got a restricted free agent in Antoine Woods.

911
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: There's conversation about possibly bringing back Gerald McCoy, but he

912
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: got hurt training camp and never did anything, and he's

913
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: had quad injuries the past couple of seasons. So, gentlemen,

914
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Speaker 1: how do you fix that position? How do you help

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, who is a defensive line coach at heart,

916
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: that's how we started. How do you help him get

917
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: what he needs to get this defense better so it's

918
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Speaker 1: not thirty first against the run in the National Football League.

919
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I think I think what you gotta do is you

920
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,360
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921
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Speaker 1: in free agency. You gotta do it because that is

922
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Speaker 1: a position to me that needs to be along along

923
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Speaker 1: with the secondary, but needs to be upgraded immensely because look,

924
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: we lost Tyron Crawford, but he you know, he really

925
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that much during a regular season. We got,

926
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Speaker 1: like you said, Neville Gallimore, who I think it's a

927
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Speaker 1: budding star. He can be one piece in there that

928
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: can help this defensive line take it to the next

929
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: level because he can get after the passer and he

930
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: can hold up against the run. So I think that

931
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: could be a solid piece right there. But you need

932
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Speaker 1: another piece, like you said, Tristan Hill was there. He

933
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: started playing a little bit. He started playing well towards

934
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, but he went down with

935
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: that ACL and we just don't know. We just don't

936
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Speaker 1: know how he's gonna come back from that ACL well

937
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: he had that same trajectory, or is he gonna, you know,

938
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: playing off or even decline as a player. So I

939
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: think we gotta address that, whether it be in the

940
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: draft the free agency. We need a guy that can

941
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: shore up against the run at the very least, somebody

942
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: that can go on there. Maybe a bigger body type

943
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Speaker 1: guy that can keep these offensive linemen off of the

944
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Speaker 1: linebackers getting to the second level, because that was a

945
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: big problem against our run game last year. There wasn't

946
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: only the defensive line getting pushed out the way, but

947
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't the fact that the guards, the tackles, they

948
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: were able to get up to Jayalen, They were able

949
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: to get up to Lve and pretty much wash them

950
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Speaker 1: out the way to where the only people that are

951
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Speaker 1: contacting the running back or guys from the secondary. So

952
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: for me, you gotta have a body in there that

953
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Speaker 1: can take up that offensive line or at least penetrate

954
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: and be able to affect the run game because We

955
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: all know that was the worst part about our defense.

956
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: People were coming in here and rushing for three hundred

957
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: yards of pop like it was nothing. If you can't

958
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Speaker 1: stop the run, they can pick their poison against you,

959
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a terrible defense overall. So we

960
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: gotta get somebody in there that can stuff to run

961
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Speaker 1: and at least get these guys off of the linebackers. Yeah,

962
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Speaker 1: I believe that's true. I think Nevill Gallimore has potential.

963
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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't bet my season on it, but

964
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Speaker 1: I think you give him a bigger shot than you

965
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Speaker 1: gave him last year. But the number one thing you

966
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: can do for dan Quinn to help him out on

967
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: his defensive line is give him the opportunity to go

968
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Speaker 1: out and get his free agent of choice. Let him.

969
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Let him go out there, figure out a guy who's

970
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Speaker 1: played in his scheme, who he knows can hold point

971
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Speaker 1: and play the position that he needs him to play,

972
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Speaker 1: that he has trust and faith in, especially to leave

973
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: that defensive line locker room. Give him, give him that chance,

974
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: let him bring that guy in. And that's and I

975
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: think that's the best way to start this thing off.

976
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Speaker 1: You got to two outside guys already. We already spoke

977
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Speaker 1: about Nevill Gallimore having a potential. So what you really

978
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: need is that one leader who he's familiar with and

979
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Speaker 1: can relay his message to the rest of the defensive

980
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: lineman to be that leader in the locker room. You

981
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: give him that, and I think that's that's the best

982
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: way to start this thing out. I'm looking at the

983
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Speaker 1: you know, some Super Bowl teams here recently and just

984
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of looking at their interior defensive line. Obviously you

985
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Speaker 1: look over Tampa Bay, who had a Dominican Sue in

986
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Speaker 1: the middle along with vitave vitavy as a guy that

987
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay ended up drafting the first round believe round twelve.

988
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Speaker 1: And then obviously we remember Sue a couple of years

989
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: ago was a number two overall picked by Detroit. Then

990
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Speaker 1: on the other side of Kansas City, I want to

991
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: say they used a second round pick on the kid

992
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: in the middle, Chris. I can't remember his name, but

993
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean that guy was a dominator, had those long arms,

994
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and he ended up with a big contract last year.

995
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: And then San Francisco was in Super Bowl last year.

996
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: They had guys littered all along that defensive line front

997
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: as well. So and then of course the premier defensive

998
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: player in the game right now is Aaron Donald. And

999
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, first you're seeing guys being taken in the

1000
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: first round. Obviously they're different people that fit different schemes.

1001
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have got to figure out how they

1002
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: addressed that middle and to put somebody in there who

1003
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: can stop it. So their top three options last year

1004
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: we're all gone. You think about it, you had Don

1005
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Speaker 1: arri Po, Gerald McCoy, Tristan Hill, all three guys are

1006
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Speaker 1: you know, not available to you be it through injury

1007
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Speaker 1: you cut one guy um. And so that's where I

1008
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Speaker 1: think for dan Quinney, we're gonna be fair and dany

1009
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: as you talking about dan Quinn's gonna fix things, That's

1010
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: where I kind of come back to. You gotta get

1011
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the guy some players he needs. And you talked about

1012
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: bringing in somebody he knows. I mean, who do you

1013
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: bring in off that Atlanta defense up front that could

1014
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: play in the middle. That's the thing. That's the thing

1015
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: if you if you're going for guys that know the system,

1016
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. I think to get a defensive

1017
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: lineman in here that if I could do a lot

1018
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: of damage but if you're talking about going out and

1019
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: getting some free agent guys that that could be top

1020
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: of the market, and you gotta look at like a

1021
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: guy like the Dominican su. I mean, this is a

1022
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: guy he's known for just switching up teams and hey,

1023
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: he might go here, he might go there. Whoever thinks

1024
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: can give him the best shots. So we got a

1025
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: chance at him, but he might be you know, a

1026
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: little bit out of our price range. So that that's

1027
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: that's becomes the hard part. Who can this guy bring

1028
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: in free agent wise? That's not going to break the bank,

1029
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: but kind of knows his system a little bit and

1030
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: can get the most product productivity out of that defensive

1031
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: tackle position, right, And I think it's he has more

1032
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: options than just in what's the Atlanta. I mean, his

1033
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: coaching history and pedigree is you know, extends a little

1034
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: further than that. He doesn't need a superstar guy. It's

1035
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: it's a lot of defensive linemen who aren't superstars, who

1036
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: don't really get mentioned, but they do their job well

1037
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: enough to wear their gap and you know it's held

1038
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: and they're keeping a linebacker safe and able to run free.

1039
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Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think he necessarily needs one

1040
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: of those top notch stars. Like I said, it's somebody

1041
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: that he's familiar with, what he knows, who's going to

1042
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: be in the right place and able to do their job.

1043
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I hadn't done the research to know exactly who's still available,

1044
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Speaker 1: on who's still playing from when he was in Seattle

1045
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: and what he has in Atlanta, but I'm sure he

1046
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: has his eyes on somebody and they'll be making that

1047
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: move sometime soon. And Danny, based on what you said

1048
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Speaker 1: in Church, this comes really, you know, right back to

1049
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: here to Dak Prescott. One reason why you don't want

1050
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: to throw the franchise tag, I mean, you want to

1051
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Speaker 1: get a deal as quick as you can so you

1052
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: can spread this have more money available to try and

1053
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: go and get yourself some help in free agency and

1054
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Speaker 1: actually get a better player, because right now, if they

1055
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Speaker 1: had to throw the tag on them in free agency starts,

1056
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to try and land a premier

1057
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Speaker 1: a premier player up front. But to me, I just think,

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Speaker 1: if you're Dan Quinn right now, you need to get

1059
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: into your defensive lineman and you've got to go get

1060
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: yourself a free safety who to me, those are the

1061
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: two biggest things that I believe will help him as

1062
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: he tries to implement and turn this defense around. And

1063
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how and where you go get

1064
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: him right now? Well, and you're someone, go ahead you, Matt, Now, no,

1065
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: it's a question for you. Church. I mean, I was,

1066
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: I was scrolling through Twitter and I've seen somebody post

1067
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: a picture of the defense that you guys had, and

1068
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: it was like, you never would have thought that these

1069
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: guys would have been able to produce the defense as

1070
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: they put out there. Who was that defensive line? I

1071
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: know see was one of them and talk about in Dallas? Yeah,

1072
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Oh it was mensi um, George Selvey Um.

1073
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Who was the other cat? I was, oh, what's his name?

1074
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: White guy man? His name was? I know his nickname,

1075
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: but I can't say his nickname on online like that,

1076
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: but I forget his number ninety six, but they called

1077
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: him the Golden something. But you know, even so, and

1078
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: I think maybe Malie Collins maybe yeah, So like you know,

1079
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: like when I'm saying, dan Quinn could find somebody that

1080
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: could fit, that doesn't have to be a star, and

1081
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: he could make this defense be be formidable that that's

1082
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. It does. It doesn't have to be

1083
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: one of those top knocks outs where you go pay

1084
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen million dollars. You can find some guys to

1085
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: fit in and then fit your scheme that will worked

1086
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: for what you're doing and help you be a good defense,

1087
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: just like you guys were. Nick Hayton, that's his name,

1088
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: Nick hay And that was his name. Yeah. So it

1089
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: was no star, It was no stars there, but you

1090
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't hear people talking about they was coming here running

1091
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: three hundred yards a game on y'all. This is true,

1092
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: This is true. We ain't have no stars. I think

1093
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: that the biggest star on that defense might have been

1094
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: either Mo Mo or maybe Rolando McClain. We had a

1095
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: mixed batch of people, a big t nixed batch of people,

1096
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: but it ended up working. It ended up y'all played together.

1097
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: Y'all played together, man, y'all the offense held the ball

1098
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: long enough, y'all played from the here, y'all stop the

1099
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: run when y'all needed too, and y'all got to turnovers

1100
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: when y'all needing them. So one year of an outlier,

1101
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: that's that's what your point too. That's the fix. Hey,

1102
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: that one time we had an outline with a you dude, okay, okay, okay,

1103
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: they have a good Was the defense good or not?

1104
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: I thought we were we had it. We were like

1105
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: a second or third the league in taking the ball away.

1106
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I think we had like thirty five or thirty eight

1107
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: takeaways that year. We were No. I know, I'm saying

1108
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: this on film. And then we talking about a year

1109
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: at one time, so it don't really matter what year is.

1110
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: Who cares somebody? Somebody was a defensive coordinator and they

1111
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: called those plays, and the and the defensive players out

1112
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: there made the plays you talking about, they don't count

1113
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: because it was just that one time what they got

1114
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: looked at it. That's what I'm saying. If you know,

1115
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: if you don't do it again, Okay, if you do

1116
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: it one time, you don't do it again? Follow it up?

1117
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: What do we call that? One hit? One word? They okay,

1118
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: just say just one that one time? Church Church? How

1119
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: was that defensive? Uh? In sixteen? Now it was in

1120
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: ste and who would have starts on that defense? I

1121
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: was just starting that defense. Someone that's talking about new

1122
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: it that sounds like that, you know, you know what

1123
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: you're saying like that sounds like the people who took

1124
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: about Carson wentz, well, you know he was off. He

1125
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: was almost that's one one time, remember that one time? Okay,

1126
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: we just named two. We just named We just named

1127
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: two times. Two playoff runs. We just named that. And

1128
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the reason that, like I said, when was that time

1129
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: to the playoffs? The last time we went to the playoffs? Louise,

1130
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It's been so long with two. He

1131
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: just said it was twenty sixteen. The last time we

1132
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: were good, the last sixteen good. That's that's when they

1133
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: said twenty sixteen, So we were good exactly when on

1134
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: went on Obama when Obama was gotcha, gotch when Obama

1135
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen. Last the last time, the last time

1136
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: we had some success on defense like that was when

1137
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: Church was on the team and it was no stars

1138
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: and they had guys at the skin. What are you taking? Yes,

1139
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: we can, Yes we can. I don't had time to

1140
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: say nude, I have yes twenty sixteen. I'm just saying

1141
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: twenty sixteens a long time ago. When you pointed out politicians,

1142
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: politicians can't remember all the president's years. Who the president

1143
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: of all? But he can't seem to remember that the

1144
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: last time we was good on defense was and those

1145
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: are the players that we had ain't done something took

1146
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: political response Louise Yes, yes we can, Yes we can

1147
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: for change, Daniel Crane bringing some we need we need

1148
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: church work in there, the old bones. Oh yeah, go

1149
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: out and find some guys. We'd be top ten, we'd

1150
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: probably top five defensively without a shot, you know, and

1151
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: you wouldn't need to spend all the money on their character.

1152
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's wrap this up here because I brought it up,

1153
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: so let's make sure we address it here for the

1154
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: for the players, lounge listeners, here on the podcast combine.

1155
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: How does it help some people? How does it affect

1156
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: some people in a negative way? No, combines. I think, well,

1157
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: I think it's only two things. Man. I think it

1158
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: helps the people that were gamers in college, the people

1159
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: that you know put up a lot of stats and

1160
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: they you know, all Americans, all this and that, but

1161
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: they weren't workout warriors, so they would go to the

1162
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: combine and run a slow time and that would affect

1163
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: their draft status. So I think it helps guys like that,

1164
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: but it hurts the guys like the Byron Jones of

1165
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: the world, the dk metcast of the world, who work

1166
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: out warriors who would go to the combine and run

1167
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: ridiculous numbers, jump out the gym and post these ridiculous numbers,

1168
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: and then they would shoot up the boards. Like when

1169
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: mum Baron came out. I think he was maybe a

1170
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: mid round pick and then he had that unbelievable combat

1171
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: and he shot up to the first round. I mean

1172
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: it was a pure off of pure athleticism. So I

1173
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: think it hurts guys like that. But the game is

1174
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: of the world, the ones that put up stats, I

1175
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: think it helps them. So are they just sending it

1176
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: in video of the of their drills? Are they doing

1177
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: it like Proda? I think it's just pro days, right,

1178
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it definitely. You know, you know

1179
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: how you have those guys that go to the combine

1180
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: and don't run really well, don't really perform really well,

1181
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: But once they get back to their home stadium, their

1182
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: home indoor facility, all of a sudden, they drop a

1183
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: few tens of a second off to forty. They do

1184
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: the ill drill a little faster. I think it's gonna

1185
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: help those guys specifically, right, because yeah, they got that

1186
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: home cooking. Oh yeah, every every year is the guy

1187
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: that goes to he goes to the combine, he runs

1188
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: a four to six and then he goes back at

1189
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: his prod that he runs a full. For now the

1190
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: board now thirty nine and a half, they run at

1191
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: thirty eight, they run at thirty eight out there cooking. Yeah,

1192
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take that off the table. And

1193
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: those guys that that that normally wouldn't perform well at

1194
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: the combine and depending on their pro day, now they

1195
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: only have that one thing out there. It's only the

1196
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: good time, not not the bad. So I think it's

1197
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: gonna help those guys out whoever they are. We havent

1198
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: know how to do who they are, but they have

1199
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: helped them out. Well. I'll be very interested to see

1200
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: exactly from a scouting standpoint, how many people are gonna

1201
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: really just be able to rely on their tape of

1202
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: what they see these guys and make decisions there without

1203
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: the combine just having to just look at the take

1204
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: because for me um just being a media person following,

1205
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: I just think so many times people fall in love

1206
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: with the combine versus looking at years of tape that

1207
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: you see on guys and poor justin fields. I mean,

1208
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: this guy's get beat up right now, and people seem

1209
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: to forget what he could do. You know, we watched

1210
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: it happened to Deshaun Watson, third quarterback overall despite playing

1211
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: in two national championship games, winning national championship, and he

1212
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: watches a dude Mitchell Trubisky with thirteen starts, um go

1213
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: over him and watches with Patrick Mahomes who played on

1214
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: him on some bad Texas Tech teams get taken over him.

1215
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: So I just think, for for the lack of a combine,

1216
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: I think it can help some guys who were good

1217
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: football players and scouts out to a lie on the tape.

1218
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be fun to see. Um.

1219
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's our time, guys. It was fun. I

1220
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: missed these weekly, uh weekly sessions where we get sit

1221
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: around here, chop it up here. And you know, Danny,

1222
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you as always coming up with these these theories.

1223
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's entertaining, purpose entertaining, try to give you,

1224
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: try to give me after up on purpose so I

1225
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: could just keep on talking. I know what you're doing. Man, No, man,

1226
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: real quick, no, enjoy your day. Y'all need to y'all

1227
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: need to y'all need to watch that wand Division. Man,

1228
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: y'all need to watch that wand Division on Disney Plus.

1229
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: It's fire. I'm telling you, what is it? Right? What's

1230
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: it about? It's called wand Division? Wand Division, y'all, y'all, y'all,

1231
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: it's Marvel, y'all like Marvel. But Snowfall came back on

1232
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: this week's Slay. You write about that, you write about

1233
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: that that Hey, that's snow Fall. The first two episodes

1234
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: was fired man, but he check out. I've been up

1235
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: church still that diverse, that that diversity day. Man, I

1236
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that one man and they had the basketball game.

1237
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: So I've been watching the Office, so I'm telling you

1238
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: it had so much rewatchability, like I could go right now,

1239
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: just turn turn it back on like The Office. It's

1240
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: a classic one. It's a classics. So so since you're

1241
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus, hit up. If you haven't watched Hamilton,

1242
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: check it out. It is, uh it is. That's the

1243
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Broadway shows, right, Yes, yes, yes it is. And and

1244
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: I know you got a huge TV at your house,

1245
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: so it's basically gonna be Broadway, you know, so just

1246
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: turn the lights. There you go the sound sister we

1247
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: have baby. You go ahead and you do that. If

1248
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: I if I can watch it in my daughter's room

1249
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: and be entertained. I know at the costa day church man,

1250
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be off the change. It's gonna be just

1251
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: like lyting Man Weller's right man singing my shot right

1252
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: all up in your faith. So it's that we're over time.

1253
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: We got the go y'all. So so you go ahead,

1254
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: chake it out, chake it out, fellows. You're gonna love it.

1255
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. That's the players line twenty this week.

1256
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: But Danvin pray Bury Church producer Chris be I'm new,

1257
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Speaker 1: he scugs. We'll talk to you next week, everybody. This

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