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Speaker 3: No, it is your boy Jada. Know what it is

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Speaker 3: that Joe and Jada show man. Every show legendary, every

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Speaker 3: Think of Fly, you think of the NBA and Big

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hamilton, great to be here, Welcome to the couch,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for having university with two legends

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Speaker 1: What candor level is that? This is my corporate. Look,

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Speaker 4: This is the most elite level of levers a crocodile

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Speaker 1: Bigger than that. That's the most expensive. Yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 2: Do it's something you got coming out this big?

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I have, I think is probably the

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Speaker 2: You want of the World Cup?

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Speaker 1: Jackets man? We need it?

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Speaker 2: And he not get you. He got you. Let me

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Speaker 4: Jeff Hamilton always picks up my corn like like like

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Speaker 4: he always what's up, brother, what's going on? I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: Way, yo, don't worry about it. I mean, always accessible,

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Speaker 4: Because I'm fifty five.

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Speaker 2: We all hustle.

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Speaker 4: He works hard to because you can't make excuses. The

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm thirty years old. I act

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Speaker 2: From the lesson.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that please, I'm I'm blessed with my grandkids

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Speaker 1: And I met one little man like that in in Uh.

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Speaker 4: Little bit bigger than these guys. These guys are like

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Speaker 1: But like on Horror they have they have biddle juice.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, listen, they have the audience, they

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Speaker 1: have the stuff that they do, and and you know

438
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Speaker 1: they they had the aps and downs. But I've done

439
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: stuff with him since the nineties when he was not

440
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: even like syndicated everywhere. So first time he called me,

441
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: and I had made a jacket for Slash for Guns n' roses.

442
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: So I want to make me the same exact jacket,

443
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Speaker 1: but instead of having the top hat and the hair

444
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Speaker 1: and the guns, I want to do my long hair

445
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Speaker 1: a skeleton of my face, and I want two microphones.

446
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: And he came in and he came into my hotel,

447
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Speaker 1: and I delivered the jacket, and he put the big

448
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Speaker 1: check book. Remember we had the three part check books.

449
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: And he put the check book, wrote the check, carried

450
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Speaker 1: the balance, and they did it all himself. And he

451
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: answered his own phone. And you're saying, it's just like

452
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Speaker 1: we listened.

453
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Speaker 2: The first investment I ever made, like investment.

454
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Speaker 1: Like in stocks.

455
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Speaker 4: Seriously, get when I don't even know where it's at,

456
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: Like Howard Stern went to Serious XM. I might have

457
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: do forty fifty thousand. I said, oh no, this is

458
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: gonna be a big stock. You know, I'm not a

459
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 4: stock guy. I don't really do stocks like that, but

460
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Speaker 4: that's the one stock I bought.

461
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Speaker 6: Now.

462
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Speaker 4: I don't even know where to find that shit right now,

463
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Speaker 4: I don't know work money not is something.

464
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Speaker 1: There's something.

465
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Speaker 4: There's something there. I don't know what it is. But

466
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: Howard Stern, you know, he a legend in the game,

467
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 4: just like you. The World Cup is going to be crazy.

468
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 4: They said they charging two hundred dollars. They taking over

469
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 4: every parking spot. You heard about that. They said they

470
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 4: taking over every parking place, every parking lot, and every

471
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: car at least is two hundred a pot.

472
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Speaker 2: So letting you know off rid.

473
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Speaker 1: On the platform there was I was looking the other day.

474
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the World Cup. Average ticket tests like

475
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Speaker 1: a good seat with eleven thousand dollars tickets eleven. Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: there's one hundred and four games, sixteen different cities, forty

477
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Speaker 1: eight countries, forty eight countries.

478
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Speaker 4: I went to the to the World Cup in the

479
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: Quata Kataria.

480
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

481
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Speaker 2: I wanted to do.

482
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Speaker 1: It was thirty sixteams.

483
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: That was thirty sixteens.

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00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: No, it's like it's a month and a half. It's

485
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna revulution, and it's three countries Mexico, three three cities

486
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: in Mexico, two in Canada, and eleven in the States.

487
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be med Life is

488
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: gonna be the finals.

489
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Speaker 2: The finals is in New York.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we got so we're having a lot

491
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Speaker 1: of love.

492
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: You know, fucking Jeff Hamilton have a lot of stores.

493
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: We're going to be opening up to that. So I'm

494
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: doing a lot of lot of stuff for doing you know,

495
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: hopefully some big collaborations coming up with.

496
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Speaker 4: A shout out to Haiti and the World Cup. You

497
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, They got in for the first time.

498
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 4: They've been through so much, you know what I mean.

499
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 4: Just the fact that they could represent the country out

500
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 4: there in the World Cup. It's an amazing thing. Jeff Hamilton, Man,

501
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: we never had a fashion ight con on this show.

502
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 4: We was excited to do this. I know you gotta

503
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: get going, man. We love you, brother. Keep keep putting

504
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: your name out there, keep doing your things.

505
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Speaker 1: Keep smiling.

506
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Now you're always smiling.

507
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Man.

508
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: But let me tell you something. You just stepped my

509
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: game up. Because now because I got a problem, I

510
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: got a fashion problem, spend too much money. I love

511
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: it too much. But now you made me I got

512
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: some crocodiles. But now because you told me it's the

513
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: most expensive, I'm gonna start looking for some crocodile. Whatever

514
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 4: fur I need to come in here with the glowing,

515
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 4: the dark crocodile.

516
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

517
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: I take it to that because because you know it's

518
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: certain things self explained to me.

519
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: With crocodile, they already know it is.

520
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Speaker 1: Yes, you don't need mouthough, you don't need the logo

521
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: you don't need anything. You don't need nothing, you need

522
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Speaker 1: the right crocodile.

523
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: You know what. You know what I did. I'm not

524
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: going to say the designer right. You can say this.

525
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't want to say it right because

526
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: he's a nice guy. But I called this you want

527
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: me to say, Okay. So I went to do a

528
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: show for Philip Plyin, right, Phillip, that's your guy. Philip

529
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: Plyin looks like the richest guy in the world, right,

530
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 4: and he probably is right.

531
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Speaker 2: But he told me.

532
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: He took me your story. He said, anything you want, Joe,

533
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: and it was a crocodile.

534
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: That's it. He said, Oh no, Joe, nothing anything but that.

535
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: I said, Philip blind, you're the richest guy in the world.

536
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 4: You told me to pick, he said, Joe, this is

537
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: my show. He said, you take that. I have nothing

538
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: to show like this is a I'll saying yo. But

539
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: you know, I went for the bat. I went for

540
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: the gusto. I went for the bigod.

541
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Speaker 1: I did one for Arnold Trussenegger through Bijon, and that

542
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: was for for like a blazer. Even even like something

543
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: like that like that directly would be like thirty five

544
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: forty grand.

545
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: You should have saw this guy earlier had the camera flage.

546
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

547
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: I got that that look good down to your ankle.

548
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Speaker 2: What I'm talking about.

549
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: That was that was really good. That looked good. The

550
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: whole fits, the whole fit.

551
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: Was crazy, right. You know.

552
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, like the other day something I'm a

553
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: big fan of. We are it's boat taking. Take a

554
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: lot of urban don't understand botaka like that. They don't

555
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: know what that thing right now they're starting, Yeah, they're

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: starting to know. Yet, scammers hustled. You got people always

557
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: want like me. I just said, Yo, the you got

558
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: guys who want the best.

559
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: No matter what it is. They're like, oh, that's the

560
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: ship I need to get.

561
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: And so that moving print, that that woven fabric, it's beautiful.

562
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: I seen Cardi b at the football game.

563
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: With the the burgundy and then she had all the

564
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: way down to the boots, all the way down.

565
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: To the even the sunglasses are beautiful. I mean, I

566
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: just you know, the beautiful stuff. I mean. But the

567
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: key when it comes to to to branding and fashion

568
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: branding and luxury branding is number one. You have to

569
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: flex for yourself. You buying it because you love it yourself.

570
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you you love it yourself and you

571
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: put it on yourself and you feel good when you

572
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: loo cuts up in the mirror, then you the game

573
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: is don of course, you want people to see your

574
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: your watch and you step. You know, I could tell you,

575
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: but it has to become from you, to become authentic, course,

576
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: to come from you. We like that people follow up

577
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: and then then people recognize it.

578
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: You know, let me tell you something, Jeff right, because

579
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: I have a real problem with fashion, spending money on fashion.

580
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: I've spent so much money on fashion, but one place

581
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: I've always been able to walk down of Fendy Ferns

582
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: to be on the best Ferns, the best I don't

583
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: want to say.

584
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: I could never afford it, but it's so expensive. I

585
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: never pulled the trigger.

586
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: I have walked out the store, seen stuff that I

587
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: really won, and I said, walked it off, went out.

588
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: But recently, maybe like a month ago, I finally bought

589
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: my Fendy fir and it felt so good. I felt

590
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: like I accomplished something in lightless for you. I mean,

591
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: after everything I ever bought in my life. I started

592
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: bragging the people I was like, I did it, and

593
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: they was like shay, y'all. Jim Jones' wife, Chrisy my sister.

594
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: I said, Chrissy, man, she was at my house with

595
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: my wife. I said, Chrissy, I did it. She said

596
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: what you mean. I said, maybe twenty years I walked

597
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: out of Fendy. I loved every fer, but never pulled

598
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: the trigger.

599
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I said, I fucking pulled the trigger.

600
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: And she said, yeah, Joe, you took it to the max.

601
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I took it to the backs.

602
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Listen.

603
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: The best thing about Jeff Hamilton is everything in quality.

604
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: Every jacket I ever got from you is just supreme quality.

605
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: You know, it's quality.

606
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: Timis and you know you put in so much work

607
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: in the game that people got to salute you and

608
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: just be like you know, and everything comes back right

609
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: in fashion. Nowadays, my daughter dresses my nephew's dress and

610
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: they try to show me stuff that we wore in

611
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: ninety two to be like, yo, this is the new

612
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: wave we got to fly to be like y'o hole, I.

613
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Throw the flag on the plank like y'all. Oh man,

614
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: I told you, you know what I did the other day.

615
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: Somebody right, I can't Okay, somebody wore this beautiful fur,

616
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: a white fur, right.

617
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's ay sat ferg Right, who I

618
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: love very much. He wore this. He did it right.

619
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Speaker 4: He wore this white mink to his ankle with their

620
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: visus and all that. And I went to look through

621
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: my pictures because I remember I wore that white mink before,

622
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: back like twenty something years ago, I said, caught around

623
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: my stylus, I said, yo, te you remember the time

624
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: I rocked the white mink this? He was like, yes, brother,

625
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: that was like the day before the MTV or all

626
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: the Grammys. We looked for that ship and I found

627
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: that fucking bitch a where I wore that white mink.

628
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I wore.

629
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: That shit before, like I just knew. But we love

630
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: getting flied. We love staying fresh, you know recipes. My

631
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: brother Clark can't. He had this thing. I think it

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: was called addicted to Fresh, and he'd be like, y'all,

633
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm just addicted to fresh, and you,

634
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: my friend Jeff Hamilton, are addicted to fresh.

635
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: This ain't that?

636
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: And ain't this?

637
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: It's cracking kits.

638
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Makes some noise from Jeff Hamley.

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00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Y'all. Jeff hamml