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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance with
Speaker 1: your girl, Mandy B. If you are newly here because
Speaker 1: you possibly caught the viral clip of me and my
Speaker 1: co host Jah letting you guys know that there is
Speaker 1: a right and wrong way to do white women, welcome
Speaker 1: you shared just a lot of our ignorant takes here
Speaker 1: that you may or may not agree with, but that's
Speaker 1: what we bring you here for to actually hopefully get
Speaker 1: your mind working, to get your own opinion. And this
Speaker 1: week we are getting into all of the mess we have.
Speaker 1: Of course some ignorant thoughts over the last week, but
Speaker 1: in this is America, we're talking Cardi b versus homeland security.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're getting into it. And then of course
Speaker 1: Don Lemon and Big Messa recently sat down to talk
Speaker 1: about ice out. Where do we think ice will head? Next?
Speaker 1: We're getting into that, and then this is not a
Speaker 1: sports podcast, but baby, finally we are talking our thoughts
Speaker 1: on bad Boney and the Super Bowl and how America
Speaker 1: was really upset, but also how they put on a
Speaker 1: trash as a Super Bowl half time performance for themselves
Speaker 1: though whites were upset that they couldn't do anything good. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was given unseasoned over there. But then we're also
Speaker 1: getting into All Star weekend? Is it over? Does the
Speaker 1: NBA need help? He need some what's David Thurn actually better? Commissioner? Jesus,
Speaker 1: We're getting into all the things including burner accounts and
Speaker 1: y'all know what that means. Yes, Kevin Durant, We're coming
Speaker 1: for you. And then the celebrities say the darnest things
Speaker 1: yet again, New York niggas are embarrassing. We have Tony
Speaker 1: Ao uncle murder versus job rule, and somehow losing flight
Speaker 1: benefits not scaring them half to death because they said
Speaker 1: this beef last. But elba, we're getting into a y'all.
Speaker 1: And I am also joined by none other than my
Speaker 1: souper bad Bread, who said we have journalism Jason and
Speaker 1: Jersey period Gang Gang, and I'd be yelling at gang Gang.
Speaker 1: It's still my morning. Still, can I say that it
Speaker 1: is probably one of the best things that you brought
Speaker 1: to my life? You don't know, but literally, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: roduced me to chef boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the thing. We mentioned that we brought
Speaker 2: up that song to you before.
Speaker 3: And he.
Speaker 2: Too much gangster ship, you know, And then I think,
Speaker 2: I think we're happened with Mandy.
Speaker 3: She needs to see it. She's a visual.
Speaker 1: I liked all the ass shaking in the right banded
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: And then y'all, we have the King of headline Jason
Speaker 1: Joe God.
Speaker 3: Blessing all the yet niggas. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you too, maybe I'm in New
Speaker 1: York too long. I was talking to my homegirls this
Speaker 1: morning and literally we're on a phone call right right
Speaker 1: before I came in the pod, and oh, I was
Speaker 1: talking about what ongause he can't decide how he feels
Speaker 1: he's in his fields, right, and so I was like,
Speaker 1: I just need him to decide. Is it is one mic?
Speaker 1: She said, did you just say Uchi, Wally or what Mike?
Speaker 1: I know those are not, like I said, girl, that's
Speaker 1: like the New York adult version of six seven?
Speaker 3: Like which one?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And she was like, I've never heard you say that.
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm in pod mode right now, girl,
Speaker 1: and it's like which one is? You need to pick one?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm not gonna lie. It's Wally for me?
Speaker 1: Okay what I mean?
Speaker 3: I said, No one ever.
Speaker 1: Like one mic? Way better? Everybody like aged, well though.
Speaker 5: It goes context, taken out of context of like who
Speaker 5: Nas was at the time, and you just do it
Speaker 5: now you're like knocks.
Speaker 3: I've never liked cool Nas. I don't like Playboy. You know,
Speaker 3: he might be there, but.
Speaker 4: Like Barbara stand concert.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at least that is like, okay, but don't
Speaker 6: try to be like you.
Speaker 2: The fly Nigga in the club like I don't know
Speaker 2: was more so for Brave Hearts. I think the real
Speaker 2: song that should be in question was.
Speaker 6: Me, Yeah, I think that might be the okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 6: let's say.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And with the expectation of what he should.
Speaker 1: Be, those are two completely.
Speaker 2: Different and that and that was always been arguing the
Speaker 2: not the people with Anti Nas. They couldn't fathom that
Speaker 2: he would do a club record and then he do
Speaker 2: the Conscious Ship.
Speaker 3: That's you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And maybe this is me being my little nineties baby
Speaker 1: one sixth and Parker. All I need is one mic
Speaker 1: and he just looks. So that's what I actually only
Speaker 1: like nos from that record, I know, don't know child the.
Speaker 3: Girl right right right, that's good. That's good. If iru
Speaker 3: the world, the world is your none of that, you know, it.
Speaker 1: Was it was it was it was oh, I no existing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't part of your playlist like okay no,
Speaker 1: but that one mic, like I know I can. I
Speaker 1: actually hated that song, which is why, let me be
Speaker 1: very clear, with as much as I love Cole and
Speaker 1: y'all will hear our fall off take. That's why that
Speaker 1: song that I think he did end up winning a
Speaker 1: Grammy with Dirk. It sounded like this.
Speaker 3: It was very you know, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm very much them kids. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: kids yelling on him.
Speaker 3: I know what I want.
Speaker 1: To be, bro, take the ship to the kids. Body
Speaker 1: want to hear that with with my o gs.
Speaker 2: Bro, No listen to some of the need to listen
Speaker 2: to that song today.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, get into.
Speaker 1: With some ignorant takes that we have. I guess minus
Speaker 1: mine is gonna be brief for those of y'all who
Speaker 1: don't know. I am literally just landed today from a
Speaker 1: long stint on the West Coast, starting in Vegas. So
Speaker 1: I went to Las Vegas. I went to the Spear
Speaker 1: to catch the Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 3: I'm very jealous. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, we gotta wait on
Speaker 1: some checks to happen for the pop but I would
Speaker 1: love us to do a group trip to go to
Speaker 1: the Spear to see the Wizard of Oz. I heard
Speaker 1: they like drop apples and ship from like it's really
Speaker 1: like the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys have left, but they are girls. Would y'all
Speaker 1: want to come to y'all dont want to see Spice girls?
Speaker 3: I would the experience, but all the girls.
Speaker 1: I think it's all the girls, right, Oh, Ginger, Ginger, Carrie,
Speaker 1: one of them? No, I love.
Speaker 6: I thought I thought one of them was like a
Speaker 6: year old Meagan now or something like that.
Speaker 1: What is literally with David Beckham?
Speaker 3: That's she might be too rich to want to even
Speaker 3: she might, you know.
Speaker 1: But now I went to the sphere got to see
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys live. It was great. If you get to
Speaker 1: see them. I think that they're leaving and doing like
Speaker 1: global shows for the rest of the year. It was
Speaker 1: a good time. I dressed up in my all white,
Speaker 1: my my little child self had a great time. I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 4: Tell you that shit, you get ready with me? He did?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh, I did a whole get ready. Yeah you know.
Speaker 4: Boys get ready?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but let me let me tell you too.
Speaker 6: I don't know what the discord was talking about. When
Speaker 6: it was like somebody in discord was like, I thought
Speaker 6: we was about to see oh, Coucie lips and something,
Speaker 6: And I was like, what the fuck are they talking about?
Speaker 3: And I was like I don't have time to respond
Speaker 3: to this. I'll find out, lady.
Speaker 1: I love y'all over on Patreon, because if you're in
Speaker 1: the discord, that means you're on the Patreon join now
Speaker 1: patreon dot com discord is. But the way y'all thought
Speaker 1: I was giving coochie lips for five dollars a month's crazy.
Speaker 1: Put your get your thousand dollars. No, but I got
Speaker 1: to see the Bactery Boys through an adult less and
Speaker 1: so I want to share my thoughts as an adult
Speaker 1: of the backstorye boys. First off, as children, we are
Speaker 1: really misguided on what good looking attracting. First thought Nick
Speaker 1: Carter and Brian being who we thought were like the
Speaker 1: hottest back then e yuck. Like I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: Brian should have probably when the backstreet boy stop should
Speaker 1: have just went on, what is it Twilight? What's the
Speaker 1: one when it's the vampires versus the world? He's he's
Speaker 1: eating the werewolf aesthetic? Okay eating. Then you have Nick
Speaker 1: Carter that we know as not only sexual assault allegation,
Speaker 1: a weird case like like cottage cheese. Okay, Howie is
Speaker 1: so Howie? You don't even notice some one?
Speaker 4: He's just happy to be there.
Speaker 1: He's just happy to be there. He's literally happen to
Speaker 1: be there. But here's the things that I realized the
Speaker 1: most is the vocal god of the group. Growing up,
Speaker 1: you thought it was Nick and Brian because of how
Speaker 1: they positioned. No, no, no, no, AJ has vocals down. He
Speaker 1: is the lead fucking person. He's like, he's like just
Speaker 1: also just cool. It's like, yeah, you almost didn't fit
Speaker 1: in a boy band, Like you're too cool. And then
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I have to tell you.
Speaker 1: I have a new white I know he's married.
Speaker 3: Oh new white. Alert white alert.
Speaker 1: Kevin will get taken down. Kevin was never like anyone
Speaker 1: that any of the girls liked growing up.
Speaker 4: He was the old one. He was the old one.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's because he was given too mature as a.
Speaker 3: Ten year old? Who Vin?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right now? With the man?
Speaker 1: butN and he's about six four, I'm like, why the
Speaker 1: fun was we looking at the niggas? That was fine too,
Speaker 1: like Kevin is him and I was like, damn, I
Speaker 1: also want to share it as an adult. I'm singing
Speaker 1: down loving all the songs I want to tell y'all
Speaker 1: one of the worstly aged songs as an adult. It's
Speaker 1: the most hater shit ever. Now the song is called
Speaker 1: if You are a Backstreet Fan all I have to
Speaker 1: give y'all. In the middle of singing the lyrics, I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I said, this is a bump anthem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't ever want a nigga sing this to me
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: Wait, what was the that made you turn the corner?
Speaker 1: First off, it starts with I don't know what he
Speaker 1: does to make you cry? So first off, you're.
Speaker 6: Dirty Mac dirt listen, but that's foundational R and B
Speaker 6: dirty Max.
Speaker 1: But here we go. I'll be there to make you smile.
Speaker 1: Here he go here too. I don't have a fancy
Speaker 1: car to even get to you. I'd walk a thousand miles. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you soak yo, your cars broke down. Now say you're
Speaker 1: gonna walk to me, which means you probably can't afford
Speaker 1: a flight. Also, so now you're dirty macking from.
Speaker 4: Longbo on a budget?
Speaker 3: On a budget?
Speaker 1: How are you dirty mack and on a budget? Then
Speaker 1: it says I don't care if he buys you nice things?
Speaker 1: Does his gifts come from the heart? Nigga, do you
Speaker 1: want to draw me a guy car. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but if you were my girl, I'd make it so
Speaker 1: we'd never be apart. But then here we go. My
Speaker 1: love is all I have to give. Without you, I
Speaker 1: don't think I could live. Not only are you dirty macking,
Speaker 1: you're broke. You want to just say it's under me.
Speaker 1: You're also now making it seem like you're about to
Speaker 1: kill yourself if I don't give you a chance. This
Speaker 1: is just give me. I was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: that type of love to ever find me. So literally,
Speaker 1: while I'm singing I'm recording it, I said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is a song for the BOMs. I could not.
Speaker 1: I literally was like, this is my least favorite song
Speaker 1: now and I actually like this song, mind you. It's
Speaker 1: when they dance. It's a really cute song. Not anymore
Speaker 1: as an adult.
Speaker 6: Showing up to a woman's house with dirty feet and
Speaker 6: like a razor to your wrist talking about.
Speaker 3: Can I please have some pussy is a crazy way.
Speaker 5: Well I got a nigga with a car by me,
Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Like it was just complete dirty macking and he had
Speaker 1: nothing to offer but love. Then he like literally starts
Speaker 1: to like, does he listen when you talk? Baby, tell
Speaker 1: me your problems then then here we go. I'll try
Speaker 1: my best to kiss them all the way. You're gonna
Speaker 1: kiss these bills away. So now you just offer, But.
Speaker 5: You don't have a building when you're a team. That's why,
Speaker 5: that's why it hit.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie offering to kiss my problems away.
Speaker 1: It's like you.
Speaker 4: Our homework and your best friends.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: shot them. I'm gonna shot them a little bit of bail.
Speaker 3: Here we go. Maybe not the bum bail. Maybe i'mnahoo
Speaker 3: him some bumbail. I'mna shootim some bumbail.
Speaker 6: Maybe the nigga's just a masochist and he's just like yo,
Speaker 6: I just need to suffer, Like I will fuck myself
Speaker 6: up for you, girl, like you could chain me with me,
Speaker 6: fuck me up, however you want to have your way
Speaker 6: with me.
Speaker 3: I just want you to be in my life.
Speaker 1: What the niggaway?
Speaker 8: Guard?
Speaker 1: Don't get this man guard? No, No, that sounds terrible. Anyways,
Speaker 1: ten out of ten, it was like they did great.
Speaker 1: I do also want to say that they were petitioning
Speaker 1: themselves for Super Bowl as a superb performer, and apparently
Speaker 1: they're petitioning it Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears, so that
Speaker 1: is the petition that they're trying to do. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie as a biracial I wouldn't mad. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be mad for the male super Bowl next year, not even.
Speaker 4: I think that's a really good super Bowl pre show.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, I.
Speaker 6: Don't think they got Wait, Brittany Russell, Britney Spears and
Speaker 6: the Boys.
Speaker 4: This Britney Now.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like that that that you
Speaker 5: can't you can't put this Brittany now or that Kevin
Speaker 5: or that maybe that Kevin, but that that Brian now
Speaker 5: out on the rain stage and HD now four K
Speaker 5: you feel.
Speaker 1: Like he's right, bro, She's clean. She and mind you,
Speaker 1: she's doing the same dances. She just needs to stop
Speaker 1: wearing the running Maskara.
Speaker 3: Don't get no sharp objects, and like we could be
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: I would actually so be here for that.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing about.
Speaker 6: Here's why I'm not mad at it though, because I think,
Speaker 6: like this this bad bunny performance, and we're gonna talk
Speaker 6: about that down the line, but I feel like this
Speaker 6: was kind of like It felt like the last vestiges
Speaker 6: of culture called the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Everyone feels it in the air, like Okay, we might
Speaker 3: not get no more of this, like we've had our
Speaker 3: good little run maybe year but no. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: We all expect a white act to come up. But
Speaker 3: a white act. A white act could be somebody that
Speaker 3: niggas don't care about it at all, or a white
Speaker 3: act could be something like this that black people and
Speaker 3: other people actually fuck with people.
Speaker 6: Black people fuck with the Backstreet Boys, black people fucked
Speaker 6: with Brittain Seals.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be that.
Speaker 5: The record too. Brittany has already done it. She did
Speaker 5: it with that's true. Oh yeah, I thought black people
Speaker 5: fucked with Backstreet Boys too. There was three of us
Speaker 5: in the whole spirit.
Speaker 4: Oh man, do you give each other head?
Speaker 1: Because Wednesday maybe people didn't want to take the pt O.
Speaker 1: The tickets were also very expensive, But I don't know.
Speaker 5: It was where the blacks divided between and Sink and
Speaker 5: Backstreet Boys they.
Speaker 1: Were and I think, yeah, the blacks went to in sync.
Speaker 5: I look at you know when mister hip hop, I
Speaker 5: think on the low two black people like ninety eight degrees,
Speaker 5: hold on, look yeah, because because they stole a lot
Speaker 5: of boys to men flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair unpacking order of course, order, but I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wait, I was today years old when
Speaker 1: I knew that Jason or a king knew what a
Speaker 1: ninety eight degrees was.
Speaker 3: Yo, I have yo.
Speaker 2: I used to breathe ship sleep videos tr yeah, BT
Speaker 2: all of this ship.
Speaker 3: We want to pen the ship that you can't see
Speaker 3: on Who was.
Speaker 1: The lead singer in ninety eight degree?
Speaker 3: All right, now respect my name Nicholas. All right, Yeah
Speaker 3: that's a fact.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna but I used to work at MTV
Speaker 5: and so like we like, yeah, yeah, the residency at
Speaker 5: the Garden and like hold on, stop, each writer a
Speaker 5: different night to write about it to write about He.
Speaker 3: Didn't just work for MTV, he was MTV News TV news. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so let's do that. Yeah yeah, yeah, I forgot that.
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, journalism.
Speaker 6: Jameson got a polit surprise nigga, no, nigga, fucking all
Speaker 6: types of nigga.
Speaker 3: Wait, I want to go back to what you just said.
Speaker 6: What's up if if ninety eight degrees, Backstreet Boys and
Speaker 6: in Sync is a big three, who is Kendrick?
Speaker 3: Who is Drake and Who Is Cold?
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's easy.
Speaker 3: We had to make this. Yeah. Yeah, First of all, this.
Speaker 1: Is three, which means.
Speaker 2: You see that you haven't out, you haven't don't You
Speaker 2: don't have to continue.
Speaker 3: You can just leave it there and let let the
Speaker 3: discord you know what, turn up?
Speaker 1: Discord?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was your ignorant take for the week?
Speaker 3: All right, I love it. I don't like that. I'm
Speaker 3: already I just want to add one more thing to
Speaker 3: content there. That's quality.
Speaker 2: I don't think Sean Carter and the Rock Nation Embassy
Speaker 2: is picking the Backstreet Wars and any one of those
Speaker 2: big three groups probably next year, probably not. They're gonna
Speaker 2: stay on Cold, Yeah, who is who knows?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean the Blue on Mars or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like some type of happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the Little White Girls, whe like them?
Speaker 2: Now is music is reflecting music. Music is reflecting what
Speaker 2: we see in society. So what is going to happen
Speaker 2: between the next six months? Right from a societal standpoint
Speaker 2: that reflects musically, I think that's gonna dictate what happens
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, with that, we're gonna see.
Speaker 1: What's your little ignorant take friend.
Speaker 3: About the other halftimes stoke.
Speaker 1: Oh, you look like you came ready with a read.
Speaker 3: Like we're all affected by the patriarchy, right, we're all affected.
Speaker 4: By Go check that episode out right?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 6: You ever heard that episode yet? Go get on that
Speaker 6: we're all affected by the patriarchy. But we all are
Speaker 6: old enough to know better. Okay, So, like I don't
Speaker 6: call women out their name. I you know, I try
Speaker 6: to be respectful of all the things that how we're
Speaker 6: supposed to comport ourselves, right, But when I see when
Speaker 6: I see things like racism white like white people, racism
Speaker 6: especially from white women or or or white passing women, like,
Speaker 6: it makes my misogyny flare up a.
Speaker 3: Little bit, just just just just a little bit. It
Speaker 3: makes it makes you want to it make you want
Speaker 3: to say something.
Speaker 6: And like I saw this story about this Colombian politician,
Speaker 6: Angela Viagara, and she's on the internet like boohoo and
Speaker 6: crime because her son got snatched up by I. She's
Speaker 6: a far right Republican co conservative, like Trump supporter type
Speaker 6: of person in Colombia and she's on on on the
Speaker 6: internet boohooing about her son got snatched up by ice
Speaker 6: and he was brutalized and all these things woo woop woop,
Speaker 6: and it just when I first saw my first reaction
Speaker 6: was like, bit shut up all that goddamn crime, Like
Speaker 6: little fucking asshole, like stop, like too short, Like yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck about what you're talking about
Speaker 6: right now, Like you pretty much signed up for this
Speaker 6: with with these type of supporting Trump and holding onto
Speaker 6: these type of policies, and like, and you were in Columbia,
Speaker 6: like you're not even here and you carry it.
Speaker 3: I was just like that should just make me want
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 1: She's she's mad that they sent her son back to
Speaker 1: her m h.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if he's even there yet. They
Speaker 6: might have him in a detention center or whatever the
Speaker 6: case is.
Speaker 4: They might send him someplace else. Sometimes they don't even.
Speaker 3: So Columbia, are you going to El Salvador.
Speaker 6: You're going from Morehouse the Mexican brother who right, he
Speaker 6: graduated more and they send him right back to Mexico.
Speaker 7: Wo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And he had advocates, you know, but it only
Speaker 6: matters when it affects them directly.
Speaker 3: Of course, that's the only way that this.
Speaker 1: Is an individualistic society. And to me, and if you
Speaker 1: guys listen, I did a bonus episode of the psychology
Speaker 1: around someone who is queer, someone who is first generation
Speaker 1: or the offspring of immigrants or maybe also immigrants, like
Speaker 1: their ideo ideology of still attaching themselves to this man
Speaker 1: at this point already said it, I don't give a
Speaker 1: if you out here with the Trump sign in your
Speaker 1: yard and now you mad that they come into YO
Speaker 1: goddamn city, because apparently they're showing up now in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and they're showing up now and and they've been in
Speaker 1: New York already, so I guess that leads us to
Speaker 1: this is America.
Speaker 3: Don't got your slipping off, y'all.
Speaker 1: Cardi just not kicked off her little Miss driving tour
Speaker 1: literally last week. So she kicked it off in Palmdale Springs,
Speaker 1: I believe, in California, and literally she had a joke
Speaker 1: where she said, Hey, if Ice even think they're gonna
Speaker 1: show up to this ship, we gonna.
Speaker 3: Jump the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: She already said that we gotta we got beat. We
Speaker 1: gotta beef forever forever, and we all beefing with Ice.
Speaker 4: Forever on site.
Speaker 1: Immediately, look they're about to start tweaking.
Speaker 3: Respond yet now.
Speaker 1: Now, of course the clip went viral, which I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. We live, we live right now in
Speaker 1: a reality show. This is like this literally cannot be
Speaker 1: your every day So y'all Homeland Securityland Security literally well
Speaker 1: the Twitter to Homeland Security, they decided to get involved
Speaker 1: with or and kind of respond. They decided to respond
Speaker 1: by saying, which I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Was funny.
Speaker 1: Oh. She also said she has some bear mates. It's
Speaker 1: like the mafia in this shit. So Homeland Security took
Speaker 1: to their Twitter account, their ex account, and said, as
Speaker 1: long as she doesn't drug and rob our agents, we'll
Speaker 1: consider that an improvement over her past behavior. Now, Cardi
Speaker 1: is very political, always has been, and I love her.
Speaker 1: Her thing that she came back, she quote tweeted it
Speaker 1: and said, if we talk about drugs, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Epstein and friends drugging underage girls. Why y'all don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about thee Keep the main thing the main
Speaker 1: period that way, I'm not gonna a part of me.
Speaker 1: We've seen the White House tweak certain things. We also
Speaker 1: see the parading that they've been doing with Nicki Minaj,
Speaker 1: like you know, making the White House gag city, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that. First off, Trump is cheap, so we
Speaker 1: know he's not hiring the immigrants for low paying work.
Speaker 1: So what they have now are interns running these social
Speaker 1: media someone that knows culture.
Speaker 3: You don't have it. I'm gonna make sure we get it.
Speaker 3: I gotta get that ten four a bucketead.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 6: A lot of conspiracy theory is that Nikki told them
Speaker 6: to write that now keep going, yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe.
Speaker 3: That Nicki Minaj told them like oh she's talking like that,
Speaker 3: oh say.
Speaker 1: This, and you know what, to be fair, she got
Speaker 1: time because boy does she go on rants for day.
Speaker 2: And I said, where's her response, not realizing that she already.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah the pastor.
Speaker 3: We don't even need to ten for.
Speaker 1: It's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah like that like that way, So wow, this is
Speaker 3: the time we end this is this is crazy shout
Speaker 3: out Cardi though, like, listen, man, but how close we
Speaker 3: are the politics though?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I think that we've said that a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. This is the most politically social
Speaker 1: like everything that inside and we'll get into it when
Speaker 1: we talk about sports as well. Everything right now is
Speaker 1: political and I'm like Jesus Christ. It's pick a side
Speaker 1: with everything, which is also why pulling out the hypocrisy
Speaker 1: of things. But everything is actually now made political. There's
Speaker 1: almost no enjoyment of anything. We can't just be entertained anymore.
Speaker 1: It's what side of the coin do you fall on?
Speaker 1: Let me decide if you're gonna embarrass me as al
Speaker 1: or if you align with my views. That's all that
Speaker 1: everything is now, and it's becoming so draining, so draining.
Speaker 3: By the way, I can't wait till we get to
Speaker 3: the NBA. I can't wait. If y'all don't know what's
Speaker 3: in my head right we're getting into it.
Speaker 2: It's gonna show you the Quinnes sent to a reason
Speaker 2: why this podcast exists.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it right now and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: By the way, if y'all, if y'all thought I wasn't
Speaker 1: very ignorant at the top of this episode, I have
Speaker 1: a very ignorant take coming up. Oh no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. We did want, yeah, Jason, if you could
Speaker 1: pull up the clip, I did want to get into
Speaker 1: this just a little bit while we're talking ice, while
Speaker 1: we're talking politics. I love I love that you also
Speaker 1: brought this orange because it's giving you about to try
Speaker 1: to compete with vic Mensa with his orange peeling abilities shout.
Speaker 1: But after pleading not guilty, Don Lemon recently sat down
Speaker 1: in a convers station with vic Mensa and this is
Speaker 1: what they had to say. Go ahead and play that clip.
Speaker 3: I'm vic ice out. I'm not just saying that that's
Speaker 3: what Tom Holman is saying. The borders are what do
Speaker 3: you think out of Minnesota?
Speaker 9: So they're going to move on and terrorize another city.
Speaker 3: They're not saying that, Yeah, that's what they mean. That's
Speaker 3: been the pattern.
Speaker 9: They've come and they've terrorized one city, then they've moved
Speaker 9: and they've escalated. Then they've moved and they've escalated. I
Speaker 9: would assume they're going to continue to escalate.
Speaker 10: I think that because there was one word that people
Speaker 10: didn't really pay that much attention. He said, the aggressive,
Speaker 10: you know, enforcement, and so maybe that means they're going
Speaker 10: to enforce, but not be as aggressive or a theater
Speaker 10: like you like to not use it theatrically.
Speaker 9: Of course they're going to stay, they're going to keep
Speaker 9: a certain presence there, but I think they'll probably shift
Speaker 9: their focus of aggression.
Speaker 3: To a new city. I'm done, I'm vic out.
Speaker 1: I think that it's literally that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't see anything.
Speaker 1: I will also say what I found really interesting. There
Speaker 1: was a map that I came across on X that
Speaker 1: literally showed all of the changes of the red and
Speaker 1: blue states over like the last sixty years, and the
Speaker 1: way that Minnesota stayed blue, even surrounding with surrounding red states.
Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, that's why they went there. It's
Speaker 1: been so politically charged, and it's it's a state that
Speaker 1: when you live in a major city, don't none of
Speaker 1: us really talk about Minnesota, you don't think but from
Speaker 1: a political landscape. I was like, Oh, they've been about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So even seeing the protests in Minnesota, they were protesting
Speaker 1: in zero degree weather, like when all of this was
Speaker 1: happening with ice, did y'all see the video of them
Speaker 1: throwing the dildos at the idea? I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: Minnesota is about like some of the dopest white people
Speaker 1: this su.
Speaker 6: May have Minnesota like when it comes to that type
Speaker 6: of shit, like Minnesota are This is not a sports podcast,
Speaker 6: but Minnesotan's politically are like the Packer fans of social consciousness.
Speaker 6: Like weather, it doesn't matter what the conditions is. Like
Speaker 6: we outside for our team. We're gonna stand out here,
Speaker 6: We're gonna talk all our ship. We're not sitting down.
Speaker 6: We're gonna throw dill those at you like we don't
Speaker 6: give a fuck.
Speaker 3: And that's what they are. And they've been on that.
Speaker 3: You said, they've been on that for a long time.
Speaker 1: That is what they're on. I wish I could find this.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of Vic Mensa, I'm obsessed with the content
Speaker 1: he's been making.
Speaker 3: He's doing amazing.
Speaker 1: He also is one of the people like I've I've
Speaker 1: been obsessed with his music since. I mean clearly he's
Speaker 1: also if y'all are watching this on video, the autobiography, I.
Speaker 4: Got it behind me too.
Speaker 5: Look at that ship. Oh ship, Yeah, group chat, it's
Speaker 5: just autographed too. Damn, damn.
Speaker 1: You know what? Oh, you know what's crazy? I actually
Speaker 1: have his most recent album signed, the Vinyl signing that in.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he deleted it, but he he made
Speaker 1: a post recently well I wanted to let me see.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about it, but I can't see if.
Speaker 1: By the way, I love everything he does so much.
Speaker 1: I subscribe to his substack. So he just dropped a substack.
Speaker 1: But he made he made it. He made an Instagram post. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he removed it. And it was talking about basically
Speaker 1: his his battle right now with wanting to start a podcast,
Speaker 1: but also feeling like me starting a podcast is me
Speaker 1: admitting that I failed in music. He feels like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: people feels like starting the podcast is where people who
Speaker 1: are not excelling in their music because you're.
Speaker 3: Throw in the towel. And I was like, what did
Speaker 3: we say?
Speaker 4: I even think that was the second he was saying sentiment.
Speaker 3: To when we came in and we start pregaming.
Speaker 2: Right, this is because they're not putting out music no more,
Speaker 2: and which is interesting because they say, oh, rappers in
Speaker 2: a weird rappers in a great space.
Speaker 6: It is right.
Speaker 2: If you're an independent artist, this is your time. It's
Speaker 2: the o g one that we see chat in chat
Speaker 2: chit chatting on these microphones. They scared to get in
Speaker 2: that booth. You're not talking about the freestyle. I'm talking
Speaker 2: I put an effort and intention intentions to a full
Speaker 2: blown album.
Speaker 3: Well here's what I I mean. I think that does
Speaker 3: apply to a certain extent, but like hard to agree with.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't call Jada and Joe like like
Speaker 3: half half back but failures at music.
Speaker 2: Though half in half, I'm going in the booth today.
Speaker 2: We know Jada's going to go in the booth to
Speaker 2: go half and half.
Speaker 5: But but but Jada's also like an aberration that like
Speaker 5: people still pay attention to him as the amount of
Speaker 5: years in his career, Like Bleak Bleek put out an
Speaker 5: EP last year, not a lot of.
Speaker 4: People checked for it, but though you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: but he still he did it active.
Speaker 5: But he also talked about the realities of like his
Speaker 5: fandom and how people check for him is different than
Speaker 5: what it was.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to read kind of what
Speaker 1: he said and him expressing these feelings. He said, at
Speaker 1: certain moments in life, to evolve to the next stage
Speaker 1: of becoming, one must be willing to shed old ideas
Speaker 1: of self, to allow some dreams to die and others
Speaker 1: to be born. The versions of yourself that may have
Speaker 1: once sustained you may no longer represent you. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: is moments of extremity that bring this clarity, and your
Speaker 1: death experience, the birth of a child, the harsh walls
Speaker 1: of incarcon incarceration. Sorry, none of those words feel quite
Speaker 1: right to me. However, what it really feels like is
Speaker 1: standing at the edge of what has worked and admitting
Speaker 1: without theatrics, that it may not work anymore, or it
Speaker 1: may not it may not be enough anymore.
Speaker 3: And literally real ship and literally in.
Speaker 1: The caption, I was talking to him about having a podcast,
Speaker 1: like we've We've had conversations for hours. He's constantly picking
Speaker 1: my brain at how to do it, how it's monetized,
Speaker 1: what works, like how often he has to do it,
Speaker 1: the video, how necessary it is like, And I'm like, Vicky,
Speaker 1: you're so freaking great at this, like you should. But
Speaker 1: I get that there is a perception that it's where
Speaker 1: people go to pivot careers that are no longer you know.
Speaker 1: And so there's a thing like do I abandon music
Speaker 1: if I go this route? Are people going to think
Speaker 1: I'm a failure in music because I go this right?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 2: And you want to know why, because there's a different
Speaker 2: tail wrapper that's doing podcasts. Remember that, and if the
Speaker 2: goal is always to be the best and compete with
Speaker 2: the best, once you relink that by doing this fucking
Speaker 2: podcast shit.
Speaker 3: Right first, hold on, let me let me draw the bar.
Speaker 2: Though we're elite podcast niggas, right, Okay, we had a
Speaker 2: certain tale podcasts. For sure, you're entering our world. We're
Speaker 2: not trying to rap. Although I had an idea to
Speaker 2: do Actually I still might do it. I actually had
Speaker 2: a verse that I wrote for for no reason at all,
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 3: For this anti verse.
Speaker 1: We're closing.
Speaker 3: Anti rap pot.
Speaker 1: We will we will not have do the beat.
Speaker 3: This is acapella, this is Look.
Speaker 2: I've had conversations with Freddy Gibs about doing itching, but
Speaker 2: you know, you know why he won't do.
Speaker 1: It because he doesn't believe he's in that tier.
Speaker 3: And you know, because he's a Grammy Award winning now
Speaker 3: nominee and winner.
Speaker 5: I think when you're like that creative, it's like you
Speaker 5: have you have to put you all into one, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like I think I think Freddy
Speaker 5: Gibbs would be an I podcaster. But for him to
Speaker 5: be a podcaster, like he just have to stop, Like
Speaker 5: that's what Joe did, That's what Noega did, Like they
Speaker 5: have to stop in order to do it. You can argue,
Speaker 5: like for some people it wasn't their decision to stop,
Speaker 5: and they did it, But I just don't think. I
Speaker 5: don't think you could do it to that degree and
Speaker 5: be full time in each No oh.
Speaker 1: No, no, no you can't. Let's be very clean. I
Speaker 1: think it's what people are realizing now because we have
Speaker 1: the joes, because now even athletes are pott no no,
Speaker 1: but to say this is actually this is time consuming.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I was talking to t I before
Speaker 1: he brought back Expeditions and.
Speaker 4: Really really good episode with Djunk recently.
Speaker 3: Brought it back.
Speaker 1: But I remember at one point we were talking. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like it's a lot. Do you think
Speaker 1: there's a way I could create an ensemble to where
Speaker 1: they could pot if I can't make it? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you have to be there for every episode.
Speaker 3: Characters that that would take some time to build up
Speaker 3: the audience, Like.
Speaker 1: You do that for two years minimum to get people
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 3: But here here's what I'll say about like Vic and
Speaker 3: his and his take on that.
Speaker 6: And I'm saying and I'm saying this like with the
Speaker 6: utmost respect, no funny, there's a lot, Like I know
Speaker 6: Vic Minson has obviously like a fan base. I'm not
Speaker 6: sure if the wider hip hop audience is looking at
Speaker 6: Vic Mins as somebody who has had like the most
Speaker 6: stellar career ever who has to maintain some level of like, oh,
Speaker 6: if you fall back, we're gonna look at you weird
Speaker 6: because you used to be this YZ. He's put out
Speaker 6: a lot of great art and he's had a lot
Speaker 6: of I saw Vic minsa perform open up for jay
Speaker 6: Z during the four four four tour, so.
Speaker 1: That's another thing. He was signed a J. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: apparently it's difficult, like only Rihanna and J Cole has
Speaker 1: successfully right, like Jay is Jay is J. But let's
Speaker 1: be very clear, he doesn't really he doesn't bring in
Speaker 1: his artist the way he should. I don't even know
Speaker 1: does does Does Vic have a Jay verse on anything?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: No, he's never appeared.
Speaker 4: It can't be the prerequisite to sign.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I guess the point is that like bootht like,
Speaker 6: but this is like so Vic Miss's last album came
Speaker 6: out in twenty twenty three. The album before that came
Speaker 6: out in twenty one. He put out one in twenty
Speaker 6: nineteen eighteen, so like he drops music, he drops you,
Speaker 6: but but now it's twenty twenty six, so he hasn't
Speaker 6: put out an album in three years, right, and before that,
Speaker 6: there was almost two and a half years in between
Speaker 6: that one and the one before that. So like I understand,
Speaker 6: I understand him as a creative as the person who
Speaker 6: might feel.
Speaker 3: He's valuing his music art higher than it should be.
Speaker 6: That what you maybe I and I don't even know
Speaker 6: if that, like that sounds crazy and again, like I'm
Speaker 6: not trying to disrespect his girls at all, but it's
Speaker 6: just that, like what are we holding on to from
Speaker 6: from music standpoint that says you can't do this podcast
Speaker 6: if I'm smashing, you can't do both because like you're
Speaker 6: not really a everyday artist in the sense of like
Speaker 6: you're putting out music all the time.
Speaker 1: You're not music like Russ. Yeah, doesn't Russ drop it weekly. Still,
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 5: Feel like Vic doing a podcast would be like Vince
Speaker 5: Staples doing the Netflix show, Like like they're they're not
Speaker 5: they're not artists where they're like so huge, where like
Speaker 5: the music like consumes, like where they have to like
Speaker 5: cycle every year or to drop bus stay on tour.
Speaker 5: I think there's a I think there's a cool complimentary way,
Speaker 5: like I wouldn't even want him to do like a
Speaker 5: general interest podcast, do something that's related to the album.
Speaker 4: It's like six months before the album and six album.
Speaker 3: Politically politically charged.
Speaker 1: But he's always been He's always been this. He has
Speaker 1: a song called I want to say, It's sixteen shots.
Speaker 1: It's not a kid being killed and like.
Speaker 5: McDonald, I love liquor, Oh if you go back, like,
Speaker 5: he has some really good music.
Speaker 6: And I can argue that what Vicky is doing right
Speaker 6: now with his oranges and his messaging, I can argue
Speaker 6: that that has put his name in more regular conversations
Speaker 6: in my life and his music ever I ever had.
Speaker 6: I've never had a Vic Mensa music conversation with anybody.
Speaker 6: I get these links of him talking that ship all
Speaker 6: the time in group chats. Is constant conversation.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you how Weezy and I
Speaker 1: Mother podcast we have the completely different music tastes, completely different.
Speaker 1: Big Mensa came on Decisions Decision. I've never heard Weezy
Speaker 1: mentioned Vic Mensa. She recently just met because of the
Speaker 1: Orange Trees and not that she knows it's catalog, but
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, the content is vic Mensa
Speaker 1: is dropping right now, like.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, girl, quality human beings and
Speaker 4: it's good content.
Speaker 1: So I do think by the way, Vic, I've already
Speaker 1: told you this, you have my support.
Speaker 9: Just do.
Speaker 1: And don't see here and and squander over people's thoughts.
Speaker 1: It's the same way when celebrities get broken need money,
Speaker 1: they might have to go get another job, and they
Speaker 1: don't want to go get a job because they're so
Speaker 1: consumed with what people may think do think of this
Speaker 1: is another art, this.
Speaker 3: Is another and yeah, and it is art to this.
Speaker 6: But and I also could argue that if Vic decides
Speaker 6: to do this podcast and it really blows up, he
Speaker 6: might be the first artist to benefit musically from having
Speaker 6: a successful podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to people.
Speaker 6: Because you even know you, people want to have insight
Speaker 6: to you. And not saying that his music isn't personal.
Speaker 6: But if you have a profile that has grown that much,
Speaker 6: where people love you that much and they're that invested
Speaker 6: in your thoughts and ideas, that can translate directly to
Speaker 6: your art with the type of stuff that you could
Speaker 6: be talking about on your album.
Speaker 1: Oh listen, I'll produce it. I already don't want to
Speaker 1: produce it. Remote though, because he you know, our support
Speaker 1: and if you aren't familiar, he does have it to
Speaker 1: where you sub you can subscribe to his substances where
Speaker 1: he talks about a lot of things. So I love
Speaker 1: that he has grown this community where he's gathering data
Speaker 1: too for people that are interested in what he has say.
Speaker 1: That was a great start.
Speaker 3: So I got a listen to vic mens.
Speaker 2: You said what, I got a list we could kind
Speaker 2: of go over one day we developed this list, rappers,
Speaker 2: we don't want to see your podcasts.
Speaker 1: We might actually get into that when we say when
Speaker 1: we get into celebrity, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that my kid
Speaker 1: the corner right now. But let's get into the fact
Speaker 1: that this is not a sports podcast. But however, however,
Speaker 1: let's get into some sports. As y'all know, last week
Speaker 1: we had our black Cast three month episode drop. If
Speaker 1: you haven't checked that out, make sure you go now.
Speaker 1: We give you some entertainment, some last and some history.
Speaker 6: Shout out to all y'all arguing in the comments right
Speaker 6: now about black men that did white women.
Speaker 3: Right, because apparently some people get the joke and some
Speaker 3: people they there mag.
Speaker 1: They literally don't understand. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, they think
Speaker 1: we're for real, and now I'm being attacked, isn't the
Speaker 1: host mixed I before?
Speaker 2: Before we live right now, I'm about the body New
Speaker 2: Jordan's what give you the right?
Speaker 3: You biracial mother? She's a human being.
Speaker 1: But it don't matter what I said. They love bringing
Speaker 1: up that I got a white mama in them comments.
Speaker 1: Undermind me yea from anyways, because that was our episode
Speaker 1: last week, we weren't able to really give thoughts. But
Speaker 1: also I love that we get to sit with things
Speaker 1: a little longer we're hearing because we get to see
Speaker 1: the outrage. Really, what we do is we respond to
Speaker 1: the outrage of y'all niggas. And so bad Bunny performed
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. We really don't have to talk
Speaker 1: about the game, because boy was that boring.
Speaker 6: The game was Listen, I like Patriots suffering any take, yeah,
Speaker 6: any any level.
Speaker 3: Of Boston sports fans suffering is I'm all love? So
Speaker 3: it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well let's get into our thoughts on Bad Boney and
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl halftime performance. By the way, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of people that did choose to turn into
Speaker 1: to the turning point Channel USA ship with Kid.
Speaker 4: A lot.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of people, not a lot.
Speaker 1: Also, there was one girl that was I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all saw the video, it went viral. She was
Speaker 1: at the super Bowl but had the Turning Point halftime
Speaker 1: on in her headphones at the super Bowl and it's like, girl,
Speaker 1: you already supported by going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: You're a right here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I read they recorded it was like over
Speaker 6: a two day weekend, the Turning Point.
Speaker 3: They did a lot. They casted people to be in
Speaker 3: an audio for two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: Wait what they paid people in the audience and it was.
Speaker 3: And they tied it together and then aired it. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't live, live to tape.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, that's Cody damn.
Speaker 1: It was only one hundred and eighty people in it.
Speaker 3: That's the word.
Speaker 1: Do that to get people to go watch that? Millennia dock.
Speaker 3: Maybe there was.
Speaker 6: The word that I saw was that most of the
Speaker 6: views were online views. Number I saw last was six million.
Speaker 3: I still think that's probably but yeah, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 3: I think that's probably still like a little suspect because like.
Speaker 1: Six people, Well, this was the most viewed halftime performance
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 3: We no, no, no, yes, Ken Variety.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe now with the wrong live.
Speaker 1: Right now. Variety don't like Variety is a white article.
Speaker 1: You see how Variety came for Center. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: are gonna treat Variety like Fox Sports or Fox News
Speaker 1: like Variety doesn't get cold.
Speaker 3: Chart data as well. You said, what art data?
Speaker 1: Go to chart data? Who who had? He had more than?
Speaker 3: But these are these are the views of the YouTube performance. No,
Speaker 3: they said Kendrick Lamar. No, yes it was one point five.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so not so not far? No, not not far.
Speaker 3: You see how the drinks they like, they want they
Speaker 3: wanted to so bad. I love the committee the way
Speaker 3: I love them.
Speaker 5: I love Okay, look fine, anyway, it's kind of a
Speaker 5: case for both y'all. So so Kendrick Lamar has is
Speaker 5: number one in the ratings. But if you do, if
Speaker 5: you draw the ratings with with like traditional TV ratings
Speaker 5: and social imprint, then bad Bunny is number one.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 1: Let's get into though I thought I do, okay, only
Speaker 1: because I was disrespectful to him during the Black History
Speaker 1: Month episode. We have to let the Puerto Rican speak first. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know it's much.
Speaker 3: You don't talk bad bone Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts also from a new yor Rican,
Speaker 1: even though your jersey, I can kind of call you
Speaker 1: new Yorrekan because there was so much it felt bronxy,
Speaker 1: it felt it felt. What were your thought of the performance?
Speaker 3: And did you cry?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 3: I was?
Speaker 4: I was full of fucking tears when Ricky Martin came huge.
Speaker 3: My girls screamed too loud. When Ricky Martin came.
Speaker 7: On the.
Speaker 1: Bot Killer, he could chill just a little bit, walla
Speaker 1: be like. But also I am very shocked and it
Speaker 1: would have been so much better. This is my only
Speaker 1: critique about that. If he coming out bitch, I don't
Speaker 1: care if he don't want to sing, we need a
Speaker 1: live in Levito Loca.
Speaker 3: Let me so.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you why I was.
Speaker 5: So so. Ricky Martin had wrote a piece of Time
Speaker 5: magazine about Bad Bunny, and he was saying how Bad
Speaker 5: Bunny did it the right way, and how Ricky Martin
Speaker 5: and Mark Anthony didn't because they made English language albums right,
Speaker 5: and so so he does that honoring Bad Bonnie, and
Speaker 5: then he always gives Bad Bunny props, and so that
Speaker 5: the song he did is don't let what happened to
Speaker 5: Hawaii happened to us Fulto Rico to island, and so
Speaker 5: he does the part that he does. He's like, you know,
Speaker 5: they want to take my beach, they want to take
Speaker 5: my neighborhood, they want my grandmother to move, but I
Speaker 5: waved the flag and you know we will never lose
Speaker 5: like our essence, right, Like that's the part he did,
Speaker 5: and so like to and so but also had like
Speaker 5: this double meaning for him, right, like he had to
Speaker 5: do an English language album, he had to like hide
Speaker 5: his sexuality. Yeah, so like he has this moment where
Speaker 5: like the young dude puts him on and like it
Speaker 5: was just like so symbolic. And I think the halftime
Speaker 5: show was so dope because it's like bad Bunny told
Speaker 5: the story like so many Puerto Ricans, but it felt
Speaker 5: so personal, like the way the way it opened with
Speaker 5: like the sugar cane, like my grandfather used to do that.
Speaker 4: My grandfather used to cut sugar cane.
Speaker 5: And then like it ends with like the blackout and
Speaker 5: like you know, my aunt still lives on the island
Speaker 5: and she was affected. So it's like and then when
Speaker 5: he did like the part with like New York. So
Speaker 5: it's like there's so many elements of it that like
Speaker 5: I and it sounds so like white people to say,
Speaker 5: but like you see so many elements of yourself and
Speaker 5: the performance that like, you know, this ship was like
Speaker 5: super powerful. And then Ricky Martin is just such a
Speaker 5: like story to like so many Puerto Rican families, Like
Speaker 5: you saw him when he was like twelve years old
Speaker 5: with a pudo and then to see him then it
Speaker 5: felt like very full circle. And that that specific song,
Speaker 5: the setting was like the album cover to have Ricky Martin,
Speaker 5: like the aesthetic of it, like it was just it
Speaker 5: was just layered in a way that like like rappers,
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? And so like it
Speaker 5: very much was like a continuation of last year with
Speaker 5: Kendrick Lamar, but just the Spanish language we didn't get
Speaker 5: is that was.
Speaker 3: One of the craziest parts of the had a listeners who.
Speaker 1: Were just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am curious to
Speaker 1: know your thoughts on.
Speaker 3: Yeah That's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 4: Oh, so so that part was interesting too.
Speaker 5: So at first when I saw it, I didn't I
Speaker 5: was confused, and then when I rewatched it the next day,
Speaker 5: so you know, there's a break, bad Bunny starts speaking
Speaker 5: in English, and he's like, you know, I'm here at
Speaker 5: the super Bowl and they didn't believe in me. Uh,
Speaker 5: but you know, I believed in myself, and you can
Speaker 5: believe in yourself. And then he he starts singing the
Speaker 5: song Monaco, Monaco, and the beginning of the song he says,
Speaker 5: tell me, tell me, tell me, is this what you wanted?
Speaker 5: And then as soon as he says that, it cuts
Speaker 5: to Lady Gaga, and I feel like that was like
Speaker 5: the white woman, is this what you want? But then
Speaker 5: the white woman is backed by a Puerto Rican band
Speaker 5: like the like the Bonban and like Plano version of
Speaker 5: her song.
Speaker 1: So I felt like that was like as of that, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what struck me when I watched it the
Speaker 4: second time. He's saying he's setting it up because.
Speaker 6: It was very like in a in a group chat
Speaker 6: that I'm in, it was a very controversial thing where
Speaker 6: like people were pissed off about it, and honestly it
Speaker 6: was black people that was mad, like why the fuck
Speaker 6: is she up there? Yeah, and which I unders answer
Speaker 6: an agree, but also like Benito has always been like
Speaker 6: pretty avid about the fact that he loves Lady Got
Speaker 6: so to me it wasn't that strange.
Speaker 4: And they had that moment at the Grammys. Yeah, she
Speaker 4: came and like tapped him on the shoulder.
Speaker 3: Right, So like I understood it to some degree, but
Speaker 3: I also could get the idea of like, Okay, why
Speaker 3: is she here? But I didn't think about that context.
Speaker 3: You just put it in and to me, that makes
Speaker 3: it make the biggest thing. Yeah. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: It was it was super trollss like like my wife
Speaker 5: was like it was so like positive and I was like,
Speaker 5: I mean no, even like definitely trolling them too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was planned, but the fact that, okay,
Speaker 1: you're speaking in Spanish, your performances in Spanish, you have
Speaker 1: these people dancing and torquing, and at one point, and
Speaker 1: That's where I'm like wondering creatively if it was planned,
Speaker 1: they had two men grinding on it. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I love this. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie for like still now I kind of
Speaker 1: want to be Puerto Rican this performance. Two things for me.
Speaker 1: I thought that it was beautifully done, and every time
Speaker 1: I go on tour, I don't know why I think
Speaker 1: I gotta be out say budget I'll be like I want,
Speaker 1: I want leave you. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: The stage set design was many feet like.
Speaker 1: So for me as someone who loves live performances, who
Speaker 1: loves set design, who I mean like like, I really
Speaker 1: love seeing that be center stage to some set degree, right,
Speaker 1: he bodied it. To find out the same person who
Speaker 1: did Kendrick Lamar did this as well. I was like,
Speaker 1: what's the name?
Speaker 3: Hey, she's out of here.
Speaker 1: I need some dance classes and ship when I get
Speaker 1: the money.
Speaker 3: I'm hiring you for something.
Speaker 1: Yomi, that is off mic that you can't hear?
Speaker 9: No, you know what?
Speaker 1: She laughs too much.
Speaker 3: That's my does great work. But that's my favorite part.
Speaker 11: Of you for the Super Bowl was was was just
Speaker 11: it was beautifully done, beautiful from from moment one, like
Speaker 11: you said, like the set design and the coloring and everything.
Speaker 6: I was just like, oh, I didn't expect him to
Speaker 6: come to play, but it was very like, oh he's
Speaker 6: not fucking wasn't.
Speaker 3: The crazy?
Speaker 4: The crazy part about it too, is like he's he's.
Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to think like the best comparison, like
Speaker 5: he he was not always like he's like not like
Speaker 5: so he was like Trey songs and now he's like
Speaker 5: Marvin Gay like he was awesome, like he's like his
Speaker 5: early records were like dirty Mackin Like he was like
Speaker 5: more rapping and it was a lot of like like
Speaker 5: I'll take your girl like it like like like my
Speaker 5: mom still doesn't listen to Bad Bunny because she thinks
Speaker 5: he's just nasty. But I mean, like in his ten
Speaker 5: year arc, like he's become so like it's so it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Literally imagine Trey songs became Marvin Gay, Like, no, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I saw someone like give the words for vi P. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like a little bit Amonica in my life,
Speaker 1: like someone he.
Speaker 5: Like and I'm like hen talking about but even that
Speaker 5: one so that that song.
Speaker 4: The third verse is again it's subversive.
Speaker 5: He talks about like so he says the first two
Speaker 5: verses like you know this girl, my aunt asked me
Speaker 5: to have a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 4: You have a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 5: Then the third verse it's it's he's talking about like
Speaker 5: the idea of that like that just leaves you lonely
Speaker 5: if you live that life.
Speaker 3: That's not but he was he was not.
Speaker 4: He was not always his person.
Speaker 5: That's why it's so crazy, like to see him have
Speaker 5: the football at the end and like we are American,
Speaker 5: do that, like like this is not who he was
Speaker 5: in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: Imagine if Draken taken that round.
Speaker 6: Imagine if he started off just like a little young
Speaker 6: dickhead about like you know, talking to Drake shit and
Speaker 6: then actually like became some level of conscience that people
Speaker 6: could And of course, but yeah, I'm still jamming.
Speaker 1: They've been showing older bad Bunny, right, and I want
Speaker 1: I definitely want to get to All Star. But there
Speaker 1: was a clip that they've been like posting with him
Speaker 1: in address in one of his his videos.
Speaker 4: So that was a song he was doing when the
Speaker 4: two guys were glinding against each other.
Speaker 1: That was music video for the song though, even and
Speaker 1: they're like, this is who y'all have performing at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. The backstory behind him wearing that is that
Speaker 1: there was a trans woman who got killed and he
Speaker 1: was doing that in membrance of, like of of her,
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh wow, now he's Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie buying buying the Apple AirPods, spending
Speaker 1: the money. I need to hear what I'm getting all
Speaker 1: the album.
Speaker 3: Well, you know you can't have it.
Speaker 6: We live in a time now where it's like you
Speaker 6: can't have too much positivity without somebody trying to piss
Speaker 6: and elimonade and so in like the day after the
Speaker 6: Super Bowl, I saw this clip that was floating around
Speaker 6: where people were trying to manufacture outrage for a Bobby Schmurda,
Speaker 6: a hot nigga freestyle that he did back in who knows,
Speaker 6: two thousand and fourteen or some shit like that, and.
Speaker 3: It was like, see you look at him, he says
Speaker 3: nigga and like all that, and I was like, he
Speaker 3: were going.
Speaker 1: They did. Even the whites were really upset, and I
Speaker 1: think tried to petition the FCC to find the NFL
Speaker 1: and bad Bunny because of all the sexually explicit things
Speaker 1: that they were showing. And it's like, well, they were
Speaker 1: just dancing, saw some marange gates working, like y'all ain't got.
Speaker 3: No problems with it, Like come on, SCC. They investigated,
Speaker 3: but they cleared them up.
Speaker 1: They cleared it already.
Speaker 3: I love But just the fact that.
Speaker 2: So we do this performance and I say week because
Speaker 2: this is I think he speaks for the a large
Speaker 2: populace of us who have who just want to just
Speaker 2: get out of this funk that we're in.
Speaker 3: Why do we got to investigate him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking against the fucking function that's happening, but we
Speaker 2: should expect it. At this point, it's like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: we gotta investigate him to do gyrate in the stream.
Speaker 6: Let's be clear, someone always gonna be mad, of course,
Speaker 6: and even though people are mad, are full of shit.
Speaker 3: But also, oh well, you.
Speaker 1: Stepped on my goddamn transition.
Speaker 3: Full of shit.
Speaker 1: But I was about to be like, I'm mad at
Speaker 1: All Star, but full of shit. Clearly I'm full of
Speaker 1: shit too. I'm not gonna lie the conversation because they're
Speaker 1: also back to back. The super Bowl is so heavily washed.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl performance has been so heavily discussed. Yes,
Speaker 1: NBA All Star weekend has almost felt like an afterthought
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. I don't think, I mean,
Speaker 1: and there's a few things right. I did it to
Speaker 1: end so I attended the Skills Challenge un contest on
Speaker 1: Saturday night, also went to the game yesterday.
Speaker 3: I had an r C. You said what we had
Speaker 3: an r C too.
Speaker 1: I want to get into that.
Speaker 3: I would like to.
Speaker 1: I would like to shout out my peoples. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Keith, shout out to Marianne.
Speaker 3: They are responsible for shout the reformers, y'all.
Speaker 1: Saw like they're amazing. Just say I know, I ain't
Speaker 1: particularly I know people places. So I got to enjoy
Speaker 1: the All Star experience. You know the tickets that I received.
Speaker 3: Did they give you the tennis bracelet too? Hold on that.
Speaker 1: Continue times they will be discussed behind the pill roles.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why she posted, Oh yeah, but I may
Speaker 1: get diamonds to add. But no, that's going behind the
Speaker 1: pew because as much as people think I'm a whore,
Speaker 1: I don't all the time. Anyways, So went to the
Speaker 1: game the tickets, and I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been complaining about the emptiness, so to speak. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck or why the fuck they
Speaker 1: are doing it this way. They have completely priced out
Speaker 1: the actual fan. The seat that I was in was
Speaker 1: a twenty five hundred dollars ticket. I had a friend
Speaker 1: who was like, YO, send me the section you were in,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a ticket. He bought it the
Speaker 1: day of thirty seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: Not only that, you ready box of popcorn ten fifty
Speaker 1: drinks were twenty six dollars a piece. And also they
Speaker 1: make you download the into It Dome app. I am
Speaker 1: still kind of savvy. That dome is so high tech.
Speaker 1: It's cash like everything has to go through the app.
Speaker 1: The anxiety of at the high tech dome.
Speaker 3: Zone, what does that look like?
Speaker 7: It was so.
Speaker 1: It was so high tech. I can imagine if you
Speaker 1: have a flip phone or Android or just your older
Speaker 1: I was frustrated you have to like transfer the tickets
Speaker 1: or they have to give you a band.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 1: It was not a great entry experience going into that dome. Also,
Speaker 1: you have to walk.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, ten is going all over our
Speaker 3: head though you know it. You know, all of this
Speaker 3: is going over like going into the dog. You just yelled.
Speaker 3: Now you just missed the whole ship before.
Speaker 1: I'm talking nasty.
Speaker 3: It's okay, continue, you know, And that's why. That's probably why.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm saying. So all of the technology.
Speaker 1: By the way, they have a beautiful halo. It looks
Speaker 1: it looks nice, I'm sure. Also the food, so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm on club level and I see the food out
Speaker 1: mind you, It's like the food is sitting out. They
Speaker 1: have like it's a seventeen dollars slice of pizza. Then
Speaker 1: they have this thing call on you ready where the game?
Speaker 1: They have this thing called fish and chips. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, I guess I'll do the fish
Speaker 1: and chips. Yeah, Bro, I was looking. I said where
Speaker 1: the fish. The fish had air quotes.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 1: Three scoops of caviar on potato chips. Forty dollars.
Speaker 3: Wow, I said, that's fish and chips.
Speaker 1: That was their fish and chips. It was way too
Speaker 1: like what are y'all really trying to do? It was
Speaker 1: to me, as someone that I got a little coin, I,
Speaker 1: as someone who's been a basketball fan for my entire life,
Speaker 1: was like, how can anyone enjoy being here?
Speaker 4: It's experience twenty.
Speaker 1: Six dollars drink even, like like my friend bought four
Speaker 1: drinks one hundred and ten dollars.
Speaker 6: And the thing that pisses me off about this shit
Speaker 6: is that, like, I understand it's a business. I understand,
Speaker 6: you know, profit margins and all of that, but like, bro,
Speaker 6: you can still make millions and millions and millions of.
Speaker 3: Dollars without going in people's pockets like that, Like the
Speaker 3: sodas and all that kind of shit, like this is
Speaker 3: just syrup and carbonated water. The margins on one cup
Speaker 3: of Coca cola is probably a penny, two pennies.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're ready? You ready? What I heard from
Speaker 1: a local allegedly, and I don't know if they're just
Speaker 1: trying to make it up because of how high tech
Speaker 1: it is and because everything is through an app and
Speaker 1: everything is like this. Allegedly, the first two months the
Speaker 1: dome was open, nothing was being charged the technology. No
Speaker 1: one was really being charged for their food. So for
Speaker 1: two months everything it took them a while to catch
Speaker 1: that they weren't receiving the revenue from the concession. It
Speaker 1: is that high tech in there to where I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is really like but the thing is not.
Speaker 2: All arenas are like that, so I would imagine and
Speaker 2: it is just a venue issue, maybe charging well next
Speaker 2: years that they have.
Speaker 1: Next year, the All Star Game is in Phoenix, so
Speaker 1: it's also not a major city, so I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see if it's more affordable than l A l A
Speaker 1: to me by far. If y'all are ever looking to
Speaker 1: go to All Star weekend and it's in La Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't go. There were so many parties m hm that
Speaker 1: everything was so spread out to where the parties exclusively is.
Speaker 3: She like you weren't even.
Speaker 1: They weren't even, but it just didn't feel like And
Speaker 1: then I don't know if y'all saw, they shut down
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown's party in Beverly Hill.
Speaker 3: It was a house panel, it was a whole well,
Speaker 3: and then he did have afters.
Speaker 1: Because I was of course, there was an after hours
Speaker 1: party that was supposed to take place starting at ten,
Speaker 1: but during the day he had a panel. Mind you,
Speaker 1: the same venue had been used since Thursday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: Saturday were used by other people. They came to shut
Speaker 1: his down on Sunday.
Speaker 2: He's black, well, he was trying to bridge the gap
Speaker 2: or the conversation between Black and Brown and the tech industry, right,
Speaker 2: And I believe based from what I saw, and you
Speaker 2: could tell he's a genuine dude.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I really think he had good intentions and I don't
Speaker 2: know who his lineup was, but he kept emphasized he
Speaker 2: had a dope panel and he was talking to the
Speaker 2: youth about getting involved in this shit.
Speaker 6: And I think that the power that be was like
Speaker 6: man funk all that shit. We don't want this shit
Speaker 6: in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: Niggas just like that. Also don't like I mean listen
Speaker 3: streaming now too. Let me get back out my NBA
Speaker 3: got to get back to the community.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what does the NBA have.
Speaker 3: To NBA cares, y'all gotta get back on.
Speaker 4: NBA cares to be dope. That was dope.
Speaker 1: Now now NBA Cares was present. There was video of
Speaker 1: what was happening around All Star weekend, and you did
Speaker 1: have people go and give back to the community. So
Speaker 1: NBA Cares was active in present this weekend.
Speaker 5: Again, Na, the NBA doesn't run NBA like All Star
Speaker 5: Weekend anymore. It's all the brand partnerships. Like I said,
Speaker 5: you said, like all those parties. I was joking with
Speaker 5: my man the other day, but it's true. Like the
Speaker 5: reason why the All Star Game is not is good
Speaker 5: to people's but they imagine it to be. Like Larry
Speaker 5: Larry Bird wasn't in the streets four nights a week,
Speaker 5: like going to like the Coca Cola, this whatever class
Speaker 5: and like meeting his like fintech partner in the morning
Speaker 5: and then do it like they do all these events
Speaker 5: and then it's like, all right, you'll play ball, and
Speaker 5: they're like, are you trying to like.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm curious, so let's get into the actual All
Speaker 1: Star games. And because it was the first year that
Speaker 1: they had a different setup, I will also say I
Speaker 1: am sorry for you all on the East Coast a
Speaker 1: two o'clock game start.
Speaker 5: I'd like to be in early though, well, and usually
Speaker 5: like I'm I'm the first person to say, like when
Speaker 5: somebody's like back in the day when we were younger,
Speaker 5: but it used to like the Alstar game used to
Speaker 5: come on earlier.
Speaker 6: Did they didn't have all the games, all the activities
Speaker 6: leading up to other than the contest in the three point.
Speaker 1: Right, but that's on Saturday, Well that Saturday night.
Speaker 3: It was always it was a Sunday night, but it
Speaker 3: used to be that way before.
Speaker 4: But the game was always earlier when it's.
Speaker 1: On the West coast, yes, but it still airs around
Speaker 1: seven thirty normally.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about like when Magic Johnson was playing.
Speaker 1: TV were black and white thing talking about.
Speaker 5: What that's what I'm saying, you shouldn't go down the
Speaker 5: road of like back in the day. But I thought
Speaker 5: it was no, no, no, no, it was interesting to
Speaker 5: experiment with it.
Speaker 4: As an earlier.
Speaker 1: Jason, I actually want to relate to you a little bit.
Speaker 1: So let's start with Saturday. Yeah, I didn't miss the
Speaker 1: three point Contest by the time I get in Dame one,
Speaker 1: but they were setting up for Shooting Stars, and then
Speaker 1: of course after Shooting Stars because a Saturday question, and
Speaker 1: then of course Dunk Contest.
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: This is where I felt really old. Okay, first, I
Speaker 1: was like, who is these niggas? The four guys that
Speaker 1: were a part of the Dunk Contest. I don't even
Speaker 1: think their starters within their own teams there. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like one or two of them might
Speaker 1: be on two way contracts.
Speaker 6: And I wasn't finalized till days leading up to the event,
Speaker 6: which is un normal.
Speaker 1: And they were talking about the last guy, mind you,
Speaker 1: the player that has won for the last three years.
Speaker 1: The white guy was never a NBA roster, well, never
Speaker 1: been on the NBA roster. He plays in the G League,
Speaker 1: and apparently because he won the last three years, they
Speaker 1: didn't let him in. Now, Jace Richardson apparently only got
Speaker 1: the call because his dad is Jay rich and he's
Speaker 1: won in the Dunk contest, and so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we have gone on a party.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Now, the first the first round of dunks, I really
Speaker 1: felt disconnected to it.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: Again, I was already pissed at all the fucking tech,
Speaker 1: and so when I started seeing the board they just
Speaker 1: had to enter, I said, back in my day, they
Speaker 1: held up the slide.
Speaker 3: They wanted ceremony.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's part of Yeah, that was a part of
Speaker 5: the food that was especially when they changed the numbers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the last time we seen that was what
Speaker 3: two years ago? It wasn't that long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's what I'm saying. So when we're talking
Speaker 1: about like the things that bring us, like the nostalgia
Speaker 1: of what All Star Weekend was, don't take that away
Speaker 1: from us.
Speaker 6: Don't have to be digital, but keep some of the
Speaker 6: analogue stuff to make people have that feeling.
Speaker 3: I'm sum good word choice. So then.
Speaker 1: So again, so it's the tech, it's me wanting old school,
Speaker 1: and I just realized, damn, maybe I'm old because I
Speaker 1: like how things used to be. So I have an
Speaker 1: ignorant take right.
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, all right, ignorant takes, let's have it.
Speaker 1: So during on third weekend. They picked the dance teams
Speaker 1: from two NBA teams this year, they picked the Brooklyn Nets,
Speaker 1: which I love because I'm familiar with the dancers in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: and they picked the dancers from the Orlando Magic. I
Speaker 1: was looking at you, yeah, Ship, I was just bothered,
Speaker 1: And here's why.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: But so that that's a bit of my problem. The
Speaker 1: Orlando Magic dancers have like two or three guys and
Speaker 1: have decided to go the inclusive route. Okay, bodies of
Speaker 1: all shapes and sizes, the pyramids, negative body. So a
Speaker 1: part of me is like, as I'm wanting nostalve, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're the bad bitch dancer. I said, everything does not
Speaker 1: need to be inclusive.
Speaker 3: So mind you.
Speaker 1: I'm complaining to this. To like one of my niggas,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, but you used to be thick.
Speaker 1: Guess what, hold on, guess what I said, And guess what.
Speaker 1: I never had a dream of becoming an NBA dancer
Speaker 1: because I did not fit the mold. Bring back the
Speaker 1: mold of the NBA dancers. I want the bitches to
Speaker 1: have the high titties, the beautiful makeup, the long legs.
Speaker 1: I want the dancers to give me the feel as
Speaker 1: to when I go to a Cowboys game and I'm
Speaker 1: like this at the Cowboys dancers, NBA dancers should be fine.
Speaker 1: Fuck y'all giving me breakbeat dancers and bitches with bellies.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that at an NBA game.
Speaker 3: I mean, Bro, when we lose recipes, we lose.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, why does everything have to be inclusive?
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, can we actually make some things stay the same?
Speaker 7: Bro?
Speaker 1: If I'm at an NBA game, there's already a lot
Speaker 1: of ugly niggas on the court, give me some. I
Speaker 1: was actually like, this is bothering me. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see like, save that ship for high school dance
Speaker 1: off in the college. We just had your sport. Make
Speaker 1: that inclusive, bro, at the NBA game, I want to
Speaker 1: see bad bitches on the court, dancer.
Speaker 3: So you're saying by being inclusive, they were being anti bisexual.
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't.
Speaker 6: Consider people like Mandy who would be offended by this
Speaker 6: whole concept.
Speaker 3: You got these ugly ass plans and these ugly ass
Speaker 3: holes dance supposed to basketball. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was like Okay, the.
Speaker 4: Solution is, oh good question.
Speaker 1: Sometimes things don't need changing. So the same way I
Speaker 1: wanted the cards help up in the air. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: the same NBAA say the NBA batties.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know.
Speaker 1: Maybe y'all are mad that they had too many babies
Speaker 1: by the NBA players and they were going against the rules.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but y'all putting the goddamn And when
Speaker 1: I say bad body, I don't want to see SpongeBob
Speaker 1: square pants dance in the middle of the goddamn.
Speaker 3: But also Orlando dances. Don't dance right, It was because
Speaker 3: that's Florida. Brooklyn Nets was like, bring them. What's y'all
Speaker 3: doing later, y'all coming to the Jaylor Brown party?
Speaker 1: They what to do during the hiring process.
Speaker 3: Maybe the culture maybe you know New York, you know Orlando.
Speaker 3: You think Orlando.
Speaker 1: This is where I'm confused. Told you was given a
Speaker 1: SpongeBob out there, like, don't want to see that. They
Speaker 1: even have to wear different jerseys, like you know, like
Speaker 1: when they have big girl clothes.
Speaker 2: Advocating for Mandy b to be the creative you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, director of the Orlando.
Speaker 1: And here and here's what was frustrating. Florida is not
Speaker 1: even progressive?
Speaker 3: Why not at all? Not at all? So why did I.
Speaker 1: Body shape?
Speaker 3: I don't want to know where else, but y'all want
Speaker 3: these fat.
Speaker 8: Now even at one point one of the guys was,
Speaker 8: I was like, I was, so I gotta go, Hey.
Speaker 1: Bring back selective hiring for the NBA dancers. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: that's my take. Yeah, I know, I told you all
Speaker 1: the problematic take was coming.
Speaker 3: It was very good.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna, if you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: It, that's doing.
Speaker 1: Listen. My thoughts should stay in my head sometimes, but
Speaker 1: not on this podcast. On this podcast, anyways, we do
Speaker 1: have men. This isn't a sports pod. But did y'all
Speaker 1: enjoy the winner of the dunk contest? Your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the dunks?
Speaker 3: Here I go.
Speaker 1: Also in my seats. Back in my days, they had
Speaker 1: cars to jump over these niggas.
Speaker 3: Was just so I did. So. I fell asleep last
Speaker 3: night because I was just tired. I was fresh on
Speaker 3: the plane.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Saturday?
Speaker 3: No, it was Saturday.
Speaker 6: I was in the air a Yeah, so I missed
Speaker 6: the whole All Star weekend, but I did see some
Speaker 6: of the clips and like I saw somebody on there
Speaker 6: did like a regular ass dunk regularly, like a regular
Speaker 6: Like there's a regular dog.
Speaker 3: I'm like Johnson who.
Speaker 4: Jackson Hayes Jackson, Yeah, I was regularly.
Speaker 3: This is going on. But yeah, but the resp his
Speaker 3: response like, oh ship yeah yeah like dog like.
Speaker 1: No, first off, the winner of the dunk contest, sure,
Speaker 1: because he knows how to do the dugie.
Speaker 3: Well, he was what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Well that was smart because his whole thing was I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do these mid tier dunks.
Speaker 3: I did the dunk over forty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was no no, no, wait, that dunk
Speaker 1: was good. But he did do one where he did
Speaker 1: some and then he like hit the dougie in the
Speaker 1: air and slammed the ball and then got down and
Speaker 1: it was nice. That was good.
Speaker 2: The good brother Carter Bryant. I thought he should have
Speaker 2: won the light Skin, the big light Skin one.
Speaker 6: Okay, he was doing the most creative dunks, actually doing
Speaker 6: real but he was doing he was hitting over the
Speaker 6: West Coast, dancing after the dunks so that everybody, you know,
Speaker 6: they they ate into right, that's dope.
Speaker 7: But.
Speaker 4: Nobody should have want they should have they should have
Speaker 4: find them.
Speaker 3: And it was terrible. He bumped his head and fell
Speaker 3: on the ground. He did Jake Richards, that was crazy.
Speaker 1: I will say the sentiment leaving because of course, bit
Speaker 1: ch'all talk, I'm loud, of course you want to. So
Speaker 1: everyone around me were having open discussion, some nostalgic, some
Speaker 1: if it's a good time or not, and literally walk
Speaker 1: on the walk out. The guy that was sitting behind
Speaker 1: me that I felt like actually wanted me to shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up. I think he just I think he
Speaker 1: actually was just listening to my as on the walkout.
Speaker 1: He was like, let me just tell you, that was
Speaker 1: one of the worst dunk contests I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: In my life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yo yo yo, homie who paid thirty seven for
Speaker 5: the tickets should file a class action.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, contest.
Speaker 1: And that was the other thing, mind you, he got
Speaker 1: there late, like because well that's another thing. He had
Speaker 1: an issue because he bought his ticking on sub hub
Speaker 1: when you got when he got to the gate, it
Speaker 1: was still processing, so he had to like buy a
Speaker 1: whole nother one at the gate. Mind you, game already started.
Speaker 1: It's three o'clock. We don't already miss the three point contest,
Speaker 1: so he can't talk with that that that techno shooting
Speaker 1: Stars and the dunk contest not good. Let's get into
Speaker 1: this new outline of the All Star game. Boy, did
Speaker 1: it take me to the end of the second game
Speaker 1: to know what the fun was happening. Here's here's the
Speaker 1: summary of what.
Speaker 5: The what It was not a Sunday about the USA
Speaker 5: versus the World versus the USA, that's what.
Speaker 1: So it is.
Speaker 3: My wife was like, it's his USA.
Speaker 1: You ready. There were a total of four teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's the Youngins of the US and the Vets
Speaker 1: of the US. Yes, the Youngins of the world, the
Speaker 1: Vets of the World. And so it's set up between
Speaker 1: four games twelve minutes each. If they're tied at the end,
Speaker 1: they go into the first one to five when and
Speaker 1: that's the setup.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, by the way, first game I'm
Speaker 1: watching and it's the Youngins versus the Youngins, I said,
Speaker 1: where the fuck are the All Star I said, I said,
Speaker 1: what is this? Like Jalen Johnson from the Hawks like what, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm literally watching the court the only person I know
Speaker 1: is Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 6: Now that was an issue for me because at one
Speaker 6: point I'm like, why is he on the World team.
Speaker 2: But then I had the Google. I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: his father from Guyana some shit, Anthony Anthony from No
Speaker 2: there was they had a reshuffling of the roster. It's
Speaker 2: some weird shit that was going. It was like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's dumb the fact are even doing that?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, twenty three and me find out where your
Speaker 3: roots are from? Are you a f B A? Are
Speaker 3: you what are these others like you are?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was something that I didn't know, Like I
Speaker 1: think Jamal Murray.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that he was Canadian. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: he's in North America type.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait thatigg.
Speaker 3: But technically but mind you.
Speaker 1: So I'm at the game and I'm like, Lebron was
Speaker 1: introduced for.
Speaker 3: The is Lebron? I'm like, where is the other one?
Speaker 1: Mind you? While the world is playing in the first game,
Speaker 1: Giannie is over on the corner. That's all you hear.
Speaker 1: The crowd is like put Jannis in put the world.
Speaker 1: Niggas is confused, why these other world why are we
Speaker 1: out here? Like it's so there was an urge to
Speaker 1: actually see the All Stars second game that's come out.
Speaker 1: You see Durant, yes, just he came out on his
Speaker 1: burner phone like he came out tweeting. Literally, I don't
Speaker 1: get to that, but it was it was Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: it was it was Giannie was in the world. You
Speaker 1: had the Lebron James, you had Kawhi Leonard And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I know Audise right Daron Fox. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is good. Yeah, Kawhi looked like
Speaker 1: the only one that was really trying to play. Kawhi
Speaker 1: was I thought doing a good job. Lebron did, did
Speaker 1: a little couple of things, but I was just like,
Speaker 1: this isn't giving And that was.
Speaker 3: The issue too.
Speaker 6: When they was Kevin Durant one of his series of
Speaker 6: tweets over the weekend and he chimed in on the
Speaker 6: conversation about this All Star game versus the past.
Speaker 2: He was like, why you don't ask Jokes and all
Speaker 2: these guys and Luca. You see what they be doing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: laying down, throwing the ball up in the.
Speaker 1: Air, but apparent but both of them dealt with injuries
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 6: No, No, He's just saying in totality like they're not
Speaker 6: they're not giving twenty percent, so defense, yeah, an effort,
Speaker 6: Yet he did he watched the first quarter of all
Speaker 6: the All Star Games of like the nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, bullshit, it was the same ship.
Speaker 6: But that's some of the problems with nostalgia the people have,
Speaker 6: Like the Mandela effect is like a real thing when
Speaker 6: it comes to nostalgia, because people have this idea that
Speaker 6: everything is better in the past and that the players
Speaker 6: are playing so hard. And I didn't understand why people
Speaker 6: were saying that shit either, because when I was a kid,
Speaker 6: I knew that, yeah, all the All Stars would be there.
Speaker 3: But the most common thing, even the announcers on TV
Speaker 3: would say.
Speaker 6: It, the game is not going to pick up until
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter quarter exactly when it's closed, and when
Speaker 6: it's like okay, now you'll see Kobe do it have
Speaker 6: a one on one with somebody, They'll go through it.
Speaker 3: It'll be really hustling, diving for loose balls, that kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, the first second quarter of that game was
Speaker 6: never no like hardcore basketball being paid you don't want to,
Speaker 6: I will.
Speaker 1: Say to me, the structure of this year felt tone down, crazy,
Speaker 1: like US versus the world, when literally we're all right
Speaker 1: now with ice and pushing immigrants out like, to me,
Speaker 1: it really felt toned down and so really interesting because
Speaker 1: you sent me a clip of who was.
Speaker 6: The guy and what was So Nick Wright was doing
Speaker 6: his podcast with Bill Simmons and like they were talking
Speaker 6: about how to fix All Star weekend. I actually talked
Speaker 6: about this on CNN yesterday, but a little bit, a
Speaker 6: little bit fash off the plane, putch off the plane.
Speaker 6: So nick wright idea was basically like, Okay, let's we
Speaker 6: should just have black guys versus white guys, and let's
Speaker 6: just go through the full thing.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do all this bullshit.
Speaker 6: Let's just have white players versus black players and see
Speaker 6: what we can get out of this. See if we
Speaker 6: can get some of that some players to play harder,
Speaker 6: See if we can get people to have pride and
Speaker 6: the whole thing. And so some of it was like
Speaker 6: tongue in cheek, Like my thing was like, so this
Speaker 6: is like the NBA All Star Game sponsored by Jim Crow,
Speaker 6: Like that's what we're doing, Like we're gonna have like
Speaker 6: the three face point content.
Speaker 1: Immediately, yes, I'm leaning into it as a biracial I
Speaker 1: was wondering if how they were gonna split some of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys where it's like.
Speaker 5: Questionnaire, yeah after they switch at halftime, and some of
Speaker 5: them are white pasts.
Speaker 1: Do you like do you like.
Speaker 3: Potato pie or pumpkin? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're saying I would be on the white team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're like, I will myself.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, okay, so so you're on that side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to be with the whites. Y'all
Speaker 1: not going to do this to me.
Speaker 3: Listen to that cold play yo playing in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Well, I do want to ask y'all then realistically,
Speaker 1: is there a saving of NBA All Star Weekend? And
Speaker 1: what do you think needs to happen?
Speaker 2: What's you don't do that? Don't contest for a year?
Speaker 2: The issue with the dunk contest? I thought about it.
Speaker 2: You know what the issue is? All these niggas shoot
Speaker 2: threes all day?
Speaker 3: Yeah like that.
Speaker 2: So if you remove it and create a demand for it, right,
Speaker 2: these kids that come out of college, but they did that.
Speaker 4: And that's how Empty Carter brought it back in the
Speaker 4: NBA like yo, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Create the demand by removing it completely, just for a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because right now we're in a space where the
Speaker 1: last four years have been.
Speaker 3: So it's desperate, insane. Put all day.
Speaker 6: To the G League to pull yeah bull or like
Speaker 6: these guys don't want to risk the getting hurt, right yea.
Speaker 3: Even in the game they don't or losing.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like rap battling, Like you know, if
Speaker 5: you sign you don't want to battle, no battle rap,
Speaker 5: like you're gonna catch that l Like that's what That's
Speaker 5: what I think they should make it first, like either
Speaker 5: either the Kings point either like let it sit for
Speaker 5: a couple of years like they did back in the
Speaker 5: day when Vin's Carter brought it back, or just make
Speaker 5: it first. If it's gonna be bench dudes, make it first,
Speaker 5: because like the three point contest, it was all it
Speaker 5: was all stars and starters, Like, well, this is what.
Speaker 6: I don't understand, Like like the three point contest, no
Speaker 6: no trouble at all, finding.
Speaker 3: Like well, Damion and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: When when Benya isn't that nigga made it three? I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we get like yeah, I said, wait then he brought
Speaker 1: the ball up the court.
Speaker 4: I said, this nigga is crazy.
Speaker 3: And yeah, three yeah, he's going to be He's the
Speaker 3: future of the league. It's going to be bad when
Speaker 3: he listen you don't like younger brother, same ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, and he looks like his body is
Speaker 1: just so long. That boy was that.
Speaker 3: He's one of them.
Speaker 1: And then I'm sorry, I'm gonna say. You know how
Speaker 1: they tell podcasters everybody don't need a microphone, keep that
Speaker 1: ship away from Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 6: Keep yeah, he's one that he can't hop on a
Speaker 6: podcast train until after he retired.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he'll take.
Speaker 4: The state like the safe but like it's tough.
Speaker 5: It's like I feel for athletes, man, when the microphone
Speaker 5: just gets in front of her face and they ask
Speaker 5: like the deepest question for thirty seconds, like Anthony Edwards,
Speaker 5: how do you feel about the killing in Minnesota or
Speaker 5: whatever whatever, And he's just like sweating just for.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go there real quick.
Speaker 3: Because, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, when we say the All Star weekend is dead,
Speaker 1: I believe it to be so because everyone one day
Speaker 1: after is talking about Katie's leak messages from this burner account.
Speaker 1: So to me, even the conversations that normally last the week,
Speaker 1: the way we could come in here and still talk
Speaker 1: about that We're going to have time performance one day
Speaker 1: later All Star Weekend is like, but everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: this Katie Burner account. Everyone's talking about the fact that
Speaker 1: Lebron sat in oppressor and kind of aligned himself with
Speaker 1: wanting to and siding with whatever however you want to
Speaker 1: put it with Israel.
Speaker 3: So you have that.
Speaker 1: Baked up Israel. You have people dissecting the fact that
Speaker 1: what's my guy, what's my guy who made aes lois oh, Spike, Spike.
Speaker 1: You had people dissecting the fact that he chose to
Speaker 1: wear a full free Palestine outfit when there was the
Speaker 1: first time Israeli All Star on the court. And then
Speaker 1: you also have people still asking Kyrie Irving about his
Speaker 1: choice and decision to support or post or promote however
Speaker 1: you want to word it, the movie back in the day.
Speaker 1: And so wow, here we go fuck entertainment the very
Speaker 1: next day after All Star. Now it's all the political
Speaker 1: jargon of where we line. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: these journalists ask these athletes these questions. I just don't
Speaker 1: think because what people are saying now is how damn
Speaker 1: not my goat, not my idol, damn not him being
Speaker 1: a loser, not We still don't have the discourse or
Speaker 1: the emotional intelligence to allow someone to say something that
Speaker 1: differs from our opinion without it becoming so I hate
Speaker 1: this person. I can no longer support this person. And
Speaker 1: so unfortunately, when it comes to our celebrities, our All Stars,
Speaker 1: our athletes, our goats, I would prefer us just to
Speaker 1: keep the political jargon out, especially in op presser following
Speaker 1: All Star weekend.
Speaker 6: Well, when it comes to Lebron, I feel like he
Speaker 6: stepped on a bunch of land mines that he didn't
Speaker 6: even have to stay.
Speaker 3: He didn't like the woman asked him a question about
Speaker 3: the player.
Speaker 8: Do we want to do?
Speaker 3: Do we have a clip?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have it at my frown, but could you pull
Speaker 1: it up real quick too, just so that we're not
Speaker 1: because it was interesting because when we came in immediately
Speaker 1: we also were like, wait, what was the question to
Speaker 1: even start that? And if you just go to X
Speaker 1: and type in Lebron James, boy are they dragging him?
Speaker 1: So you can find the clip easy there.
Speaker 3: I saw somebody post. I saw somebody post.
Speaker 4: And she was from an Israel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got he made a meme of Lebron wearing
Speaker 6: like an Israel warm up suit.
Speaker 3: The Star it was Emmy kd. Actually both had on
Speaker 3: Starr David warm up track suits.
Speaker 5: Here's the here's the club Measley b from John fourteen
Speaker 5: in Israel for all the Israeli fans.
Speaker 4: What message would you like to send for Israel? And
Speaker 4: also what do you think about Danny Aftia?
Speaker 7: Well, I've been quoted on Danny already, and they asked
Speaker 7: me that I thought what I thought about the season?
Speaker 7: I said, I believe he was an All Star, and
Speaker 7: I mean he is an All Star. He's playing you know,
Speaker 7: exceptional you know basketball, So that's that. And then I
Speaker 7: mean if if I fans over there, I've never been there.
Speaker 7: If I have fans over there, then you know, I
Speaker 7: hope you been following my career. I hope I inspire
Speaker 7: people over there to not only want to be great
Speaker 7: in sports, but all once just be better in general
Speaker 7: in life. So hopefully someday I can make it over there.
Speaker 7: Like I said, I've never been over there, but I've
Speaker 7: heard nothing but great things and appreciate the question.
Speaker 4: Thank you. This is where and we know the fuller
Speaker 4: answer was not as bad as well.
Speaker 1: No, but it's the last part of the last thing.
Speaker 1: They are literally committing a genocide right now, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what great things did you hear?
Speaker 1: There's no way you aren't aware that they have been
Speaker 1: killing women and children and an entire they've almost white.
Speaker 3: Pala signed off the brown people, black and brown people,
Speaker 3: Like why, Like.
Speaker 5: That's not what you say, because that's I agree that
Speaker 5: the two parts where you said he should have stopped,
Speaker 5: he should have stopped.
Speaker 3: It was easy to stop.
Speaker 1: It was easy.
Speaker 6: It was just like the whole like if I had
Speaker 6: fans there and I inspire you all to be better, Okay, fine,
Speaker 6: And he was walking up to the line though, like
Speaker 6: with that part right there, it wasn't bad, but he was,
Speaker 6: like you can see he was walking up to a
Speaker 6: point where he wanted to say, I love y'all so.
Speaker 5: Much and this is all, and it was I think
Speaker 5: I think it's the challenge is also too, like he's
Speaker 5: because of who he is, he's almost kind of speaking
Speaker 5: for the league when he answers, right, and then it's
Speaker 5: an Israeli reporter who's answering it. And I feel like
Speaker 5: he was kind of thinking as he was answering it.
Speaker 5: To Mandy's point, like I think those parts where he
Speaker 5: should have stopped is right when he was thinking about
Speaker 5: how to stop, and it got away from him.
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like.
Speaker 5: Obviously I don't know like what his intentions were, but
Speaker 5: it felt like it got away with him before that's
Speaker 5: what he actually wanted to say.
Speaker 1: What he should do is also create a burner account,
Speaker 1: and if he's in support Israel, put that ship on
Speaker 1: the burner account, but don't bring it to a pressor.
Speaker 1: And I do also just hate that it was asked,
Speaker 1: like y'all knows, y'all knows the guy a tough question
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 6: Asked, Well, I'm gonna use your husband's The intersectionality of
Speaker 6: support in politics has always been there.
Speaker 4: I mean always.
Speaker 3: He says, you know, fuck the war in Vietnam, whatever. Right.
Speaker 6: I think if this is what Lebron, if this is
Speaker 6: how he really feels, we just have to give him grace.
Speaker 6: And because that's no I'm just saying in terms of
Speaker 6: this is who he is, maybe we just have to
Speaker 6: accept it.
Speaker 5: Shut out to Scoop Jackson, Right, they get a book,
Speaker 5: The Power to Protests and Politics of American Sports.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, the game is not a game. It's it's
Speaker 4: always inter twine.
Speaker 6: And Jason, how much of our affiliations, even in what
Speaker 6: we do professionally individually, contributes to these narratives? Right, his
Speaker 6: affiliations may have contributed to his.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what we see employd Mayweather right now.
Speaker 3: All the way there. Yeah, he can't get your interest.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's but you know what's funny
Speaker 5: about that, A king was like, remember when Darryl Moury
Speaker 5: said the comment about China when it was like China
Speaker 5: and Taiwan and they were out there bawling, and Darryl Moury,
Speaker 5: who's the general manager of the Sixers now but then
Speaker 5: he was the Suston Rockets, he said this comment and
Speaker 5: it put the team, you know, in danger, and lebron
Speaker 5: was was pissed at that right like and it's it's
Speaker 5: it's just strange that like lebron knew like the geopolitics
Speaker 5: of that moment with this one, he kind of didn't.
Speaker 4: But again, but it's also it's a tough situation.
Speaker 5: You're being asked by Israelly, like you want to be
Speaker 5: nice of them for asking Probably not the right place
Speaker 5: to ask, But then again, sports and culture in the
Speaker 5: Twin like it was, it was tough, and he got
Speaker 5: eighty five percent.
Speaker 3: Of it right.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's it's it lends his answer in
Speaker 6: that press or lends credence to the fact that, like
Speaker 6: when when we see him reading these books, that he
Speaker 6: ain't really reading these books, well we are like all
Speaker 6: he's doing is just giving us more more proof that
Speaker 6: like you know, you didn't read that, Malcolm, like you
Speaker 6: didn't see what we talk about, because like why are
Speaker 6: you going down this path? But you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: he found himself in several international incidents now over the
Speaker 6: past few years, and yeah, you would think that he
Speaker 6: would know how to navigate these things a little bit better. However, again,
Speaker 6: I'm shoot shooting some bail, some bum bail, Like these
Speaker 6: are pretty much like the worst things we can say
Speaker 6: about Lebron James' behavior through his career is some of these,
Speaker 6: some of these geopolitical things that he doesn't handle well,
Speaker 6: speaking about countries and things that might be sensitive subjects,
Speaker 6: Like this is the worst of his public behavior.
Speaker 3: Across But I look at this though, I mean, no,
Speaker 3: it could be a lot worse.
Speaker 6: I mean, now, those Martin Luther King shoes were pretty
Speaker 6: egregious so that was that was an egregious like damn, bro,
Speaker 6: how you let this one slide?
Speaker 3: But again, like this is the worst of it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm unfortunately if if they live a long enough life,
Speaker 1: we get to see all of our goats fail as
Speaker 1: human beings.
Speaker 3: You being the hero long live long enough.
Speaker 1: Yourself become a villain. I don't We're not going to
Speaker 1: talk much about it because the internet is a blaze
Speaker 1: right now. But do y'all see Michael Jordan touching that
Speaker 1: little boy?
Speaker 3: Yo? But that ship in the group, that ship was crazy.
Speaker 1: It's not okay?
Speaker 6: So all right, so you know, as every day aid
Speaker 6: percentage of AI guess, yeah, I had to really this is.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing to look would it be your goat?
Speaker 3: He ain't my goat. It's just that.
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty six that you can't how is even
Speaker 6: like so so you know, I'm like I'm looking for
Speaker 6: like you like, where is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It so many times? And then the little boy
Speaker 3: like like you know, it's so crazy, you know, the
Speaker 3: optics is everything.
Speaker 6: It's a white kid on top of that dude and
Speaker 6: it's him and it's like, is this a humiliation ritual
Speaker 6: that he's gonna go down this rabbit.
Speaker 3: Hole if his tear down or is it going to
Speaker 3: be any outrage about it.
Speaker 1: Like Michael Jackson, in no time, in no decade, none
Speaker 1: was that an appropriate interaction between a grown ass. So
Speaker 1: mind you, we already have all of these grown men
Speaker 1: coming out talking about their sexual assaults and how it
Speaker 1: impacted them. This is something like, bro, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: And this is going to live on the internet forever.
Speaker 6: He plucked his tookens multiple times.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Sae, just call me ignorant at first on
Speaker 2: the thumbnail and then and then you see the title
Speaker 2: or whatever, I'm like, oh, the little kids playing basketball
Speaker 2: paddle that's thinking a good job.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Michael's getting at that
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, like yeah yeah, I'm like, what do you do?
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. The way it's going around
Speaker 1: the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if the parents of
Speaker 1: the child sexual assault not something like because now it
Speaker 1: becomes embarrassment, right, Oh no, for the like what's happening here?
Speaker 6: You gave the magas the perfect extra distraction because now
Speaker 6: they're gonna square on him, like yo, disagreed, NBA go
Speaker 6: you already.
Speaker 1: Ready both parties can go after him because he's someone
Speaker 1: who remained quiet and not he didn't. Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: the most neutral mother like, one of the most neutral
Speaker 1: All Star players of our generation. Everybody coming for that.
Speaker 3: Ass, but also everybody coming for us too.
Speaker 6: You know why we're gonna still buy them Jordan's when
Speaker 6: they drop, Yeah drop, So we're wis the hypocrisy now?
Speaker 1: It depends the colorway.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not gonna hold I'm looking at everybody feats
Speaker 2: in here right now. Your feet got over there, She's clear.
Speaker 3: Everybody we got on over there.
Speaker 4: I got I definitely got Jason.
Speaker 5: If I got some, I got what you're doing with
Speaker 5: your Jordans now, Yeah, make sure I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 5: they clean. Not me.
Speaker 4: Mike is just missing a fistful of dollars.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna hold you. If that little kid had
Speaker 6: turned around and been like, yo, my nigga, like I
Speaker 6: want got the past yet, I'm not gonna stand, I
Speaker 6: would have let him say it.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be about that might be one.
Speaker 1: Of the we said some ignorant this podcast. You just
Speaker 1: gave a white kid the way to say, nigga, Yeah, everything.
Speaker 6: Gonna get the past, say niggas, it's gonna be the
Speaker 6: way to maybe because if you if you turn around,
Speaker 6: my nigga relaxed, like.
Speaker 3: You know, we're still gonna buy, We're still gonna stand
Speaker 3: on lines.
Speaker 1: I even just say, he gonna make sure he's a
Speaker 1: clean I don't think this.
Speaker 3: Is gonna last that long. Why shouldn't? Why should Well no,
Speaker 3: But it's like because the question is who is going
Speaker 3: to amplify it? Hold? Right now is the thing on
Speaker 3: the internet?
Speaker 1: First off, all the conversation right now is little kids
Speaker 1: in those Epstein files with Hollywood execs and and super
Speaker 1: powerful people who still have not been brought to justice.
Speaker 1: So if we are not getting the Epstein victims any
Speaker 1: sort of justice, but we have another prominent block figure
Speaker 1: now doing the same thing to a little white boy,
Speaker 1: this is actually, oh yeah, we're gonna get this. We
Speaker 1: donna get Jordan out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean does the The question is does the
Speaker 6: mainstream media sports are otherwise?
Speaker 3: Do they have it to go after Michael Joe? And
Speaker 3: I don't think they do.
Speaker 4: I don't think they If he was an owner still
Speaker 4: maybe maybe you know, I mean, he's he's.
Speaker 1: Still he's still one of those black men and let's
Speaker 1: be very clear the way that they like to humble
Speaker 1: these men that reached the billionaire status or that high
Speaker 1: millionaire status. And what we've also realized with this country
Speaker 1: with the reversal of Roe v. Wade, is how much
Speaker 1: they care about the life of a child over anything else,
Speaker 1: or at least they're the tap dancing like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so when they could sit here and take another
Speaker 1: black man out like they just did Diddy for the
Speaker 1: ship that he was doing that video, is that egregious?
Speaker 1: And we all want this Epstein file bullshit to to
Speaker 1: to land. They gonna see here. This is the distraction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all know how we always say they got distractions. That's
Speaker 1: what this is.
Speaker 4: This is a distraction.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like.
Speaker 5: I was just saying, man, you have one forty right now?
Speaker 5: God damn, yeah, that's gonna say after that. Okay, mister,
Speaker 5: he missed the mark about the toss to the I
Speaker 5: know you.
Speaker 1: You see look see he can you have one job?
Speaker 1: I love Teleni, they only had one job.
Speaker 3: The intelligence of ignorant man.
Speaker 5: When you say the mold part about the dancers, that
Speaker 5: reminded me you should do a bonus episode on the
Speaker 5: America's Next Top Model.
Speaker 3: Actually want to watch.
Speaker 4: I think that'd be a good bonus.
Speaker 1: Well then, real quick, Jason, I don't want to hold
Speaker 1: you all day, but I would love to do. Then
Speaker 1: maybe we talk for the bonus episode this week we
Speaker 1: do Ya yo Ja Rule Murder and then say our
Speaker 1: reviews on the fallof.
Speaker 6: And while we're recording, just as as it just wasnounces
Speaker 6: j Cole announces toy World Tour touring from for Good
Speaker 6: six six seven months.
Speaker 3: Is he starting in Europe but he's starting in South Africa? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yes, they had a promo video on his on his
Speaker 2: page on YouTube. Well he's standing in front of his
Speaker 2: Lamborghini truck and then he thinks for a minute and
Speaker 2: he goes inside the car and you see the tour
Speaker 2: dates in the locations.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 3: You everywhere, He's gonna be everywhere every.
Speaker 1: First off, you know what that means, You're about to
Speaker 1: be everywhere.
Speaker 3: Country don't want to go to next he's going.
Speaker 6: He's going to be in North America, Europe, Australia, and
Speaker 6: South America, South South Africa.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm love that for him. Come on, eat up,
Speaker 1: especially with them first week sales and he's still traveling
Speaker 1: the country and his Honda Civic anyways, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about his marketing too in the bonus episode, of course,
Speaker 1: on Fridays with Mandy B. Catch that on the feed.
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Speaker 1: Can you sign us out with that closing because I
Speaker 1: ain't got.
Speaker 3: To pull it up?
Speaker 4: Oh hold on, let's sit here, I got it here.
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