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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back for our number two of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. He's Matt Williamson, I'm

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolli and well it's mock draft time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week we used some other mock drafters. Today

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Speaker 2: we're going to go back to Pro Football Focus and

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Speaker 2: the first nineteen picture. And I will say, if the

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Speaker 2: draft had gone this way JC Latham lasted until pick nineteen,

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Speaker 2: we may have called the Rams up and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: what's going to cost us to move up a spot

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Speaker 2: and you come back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know, since he's at eighteen, which is

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Speaker 3: a problem, but maybe even call the seventeen team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since he took late two, okay, so that wasn't

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Speaker 2: an issue for as Graham Barton went at fourteen, go

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Speaker 2: in the top nineteen, I think so as well. Fatanu

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Speaker 2: went at sixteen. That left Latham at nineteen. We probably

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Speaker 2: would have tried to trade up at that point.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure the Rams would even take them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would just be a best player available kind

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Speaker 2: of thing for them. Yeah, so looking here, we have

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Speaker 2: five trade offers. Top players available are Johnny Newton, Cooper Dejene,

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy, Nate Wiggins, Amarius Mims, kool Aid McKinstry, Jackson

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Speaker 2: Powers Johnson, Brian Thomas, is there, Tyler Geiiton is there,

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Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell, Zach Frasier, lab McConkie. The five trade offers.

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Speaker 2: I think if we stick and pick, I would take Degene.

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Speaker 3: Trying to think what we talked about just last segment.

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Speaker 3: I think I had I know I had Mims ahead

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Speaker 3: of the Gene, but to be honest, they're in the

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Speaker 3: same neighborhood. Yeah, you know what I mean, And I

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Speaker 3: feel more confident about the Gene. I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: mind the Gene.

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Speaker 2: If I take Here's the thing about it. If you

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Speaker 2: take Degene, you don't need to worry about take another

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Speaker 2: safety or another cornerback the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of sometimes we do two or three defensive back. You

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Speaker 3: don't need to do that. Done, You're done, right, and

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Speaker 3: you could call Patrick Peterson back if you want it,

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Speaker 3: or something like that, and you know someone around camp

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Speaker 3: time add to the mix veteran leadership or whatever. No,

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Speaker 3: that's the beauty of them. To me, where like Wiggins,

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Speaker 3: that's not.

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Speaker 2: He's just an outside guy. Then you're still gonna need

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Speaker 2: to draft a slot and he.

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Speaker 3: Still need to find a slot somewhere. Yeah, I agree

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Speaker 3: with you there.

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Speaker 2: I mean that just kills so many birds with one stone.

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Speaker 2: He might be your punt return guy. He'd do a

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Speaker 2: lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might could do a lot of stuff for you.

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Speaker 3: Danny Smith might use him to no end, would love

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Speaker 3: him right. No, I'm with you there, And if anything

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Speaker 3: on my board, he's going up, not because of the workout,

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Speaker 3: but for that exact reason. I mean, like he's just

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Speaker 3: so good I killed my back sevens done. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know after a free agency that's a nice feeling.

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Speaker 2: Him and manco on the same exactly.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, the three of them could

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Speaker 3: be foundational dudes for a long time. They're all different,

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Speaker 3: so he's very appealing. Plus I also would probably rather

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Speaker 3: have the gene and Notre Dame's right tackle in the

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Speaker 3: second round then Mims and last, Yeah you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean or something like that. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: like the third round corners better than I like the

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Speaker 3: second round corners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'd probably wait till the third round for

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Speaker 3: the corner anyways. Yeah, okay, sorry, but that being said,

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Speaker 3: there's like six names that are sitting here that I'm

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Speaker 2: We get five trade offers. Unfortunately, the highest one who's

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Speaker 2: calling us here is Carolina. Their next pick is at

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Speaker 2: thirty three. Do we want to trade out? Kind of do?

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Speaker 3: Since we never have? I know, I'm just I like

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Speaker 2: On the phone. The Patriots are on the phone at

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Speaker 2: thirty four.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Chargers to offer us, I mean future picks

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Speaker 3: are great from them, but we get help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got four teams who are in who have

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Speaker 2: early day two picks, who are on the phone that

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Speaker 3: I'm interested of trading out of round one altogether, just

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Speaker 2: I got to get something. Really, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a future first for sure.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking Carolina, would we do it for? I

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Speaker 3: don't know what their picks are, but the earliest two,

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Speaker 3: the earliest three in the future too.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that they got. It's it's nice

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Speaker 2: they have the Giants second round. Yeah, so they have

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Speaker 2: thirty three and thirty nine. If they would give us

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Speaker 2: thirty three and thirty nine for twenty. I think I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I'm in to see what that looks like. Yeah, let

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Speaker 2: me see if they'll see I mean, that's the beautiful.

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Speaker 3: What about this this software too is they'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what your percent chances are too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has a five percent chance to be accepted.

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Speaker 3: What if we threw in our fourth or something.

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Speaker 2: If we throw them one nineteen, that moves it up

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Speaker 2: to a thirty percent chance. Okay, I'll offer it and

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Speaker 2: see if they'll take it. It's fine, they took it.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, how about that one?

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Speaker 3: Okay? All right, so we might not get a blue

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Speaker 3: chip star, but we just picked the best guy that

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Speaker 3: falls over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, all right. So the guys who went then.

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Speaker 3: They're like, what's interesting here is I'm trying not to

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Speaker 2: This is actually realistic, Like I would.

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Speaker 3: Take like Newton here, like something that I didn't even

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Speaker 3: think of, or Murphy or if one of those guys available,

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Speaker 3: I would at least have that conversation because it's we

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Speaker 3: still have all the picks we need to get our

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Speaker 3: other needs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's my choice. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: if he's there. I just looked over and I looks

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Speaker 3: like he is there.

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Speaker 2: So they came up to get Brian Thomas, which is realistic.

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Speaker 3: That's a smart move for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's realistic. They want to come up and get

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver one have at it.

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Speaker 3: I might give you two for two early seconds for

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Speaker 2: Then Nate Wiggans went, then Cooper de Jan Dejean went.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks went at twenty three. Great, that's good news

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Speaker 2: for us. Amarius Mims went at twenty four. Byron Murphy

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Speaker 2: went at twenty five. It's his neighborhood, Jackson Powers Johnson

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Speaker 3: Okay, so some news, some interesting dudes, but there's some

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Speaker 3: didn't go. Okay, I can't. I mean, I trust me,

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time making that my first pick

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Speaker 3: no matter what. Yeah, but I know that we'll find centers, tackles,

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Speaker 3: ride receivers, and corners, with all of our other stuff

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Speaker 3: on this on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's here's my point why I couldn't take Newton,

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Speaker 2: even though he's the top player available, and I don't

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Speaker 2: care about that. As you said, he's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: fifty percent player for me, I can't take him in

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Speaker 2: the first round. If he's only gonna play fifty percent

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Speaker 2: at his best, he's gonna play fifty.

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Speaker 3: Percent, it's more like two thirds even so I.

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Speaker 2: Can't take that guy in the first round. Who else

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Speaker 2: my first pick?

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Speaker 3: Who else are we looking at? Like? Fraser there?

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Speaker 2: Fraser is there, Lad McConkey is there, just looking at

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Speaker 2: the guy still, it's one of those too. If Piercel

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Speaker 2: we pick again at thirty nine. To me, I would

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Speaker 2: take Fraser here and then grab one of the receivers with.

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Speaker 3: My next I think it'll be one. Will be as we.

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Speaker 2: Get thirty three, thirty nine to fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Right, there be corners, there's some receivers. Yeah, now you're

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Speaker 3: getting one of the top centers.

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Speaker 2: We do have nine trade off.

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Speaker 3: Let's take Frasier. To you, it's a different build than

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Speaker 3: we usually do. But that's and he's been mocked to

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Speaker 3: thirty three to the Panthers a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so I think there was a run

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Speaker 2: on wide receivers there. Well, yeah, so Newton went at

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Speaker 2: thirty four, Okay, Lad McConkie, Choup, Robinson, Peyton Wilson, Troy Franklin.

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Speaker 2: We're back up on the clock here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was hoping form a conky, but Pearsall would

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Speaker 2: Pierceaw there is there, Mike sant Aestrill is there.

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Speaker 3: It's a little earthly for me, too early, but it's

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Speaker 3: kind of the same argument as like a Newton because

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Speaker 3: he's not going to play every snap.

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Speaker 2: He's not, but he might be the He's gonna be

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Speaker 2: in the top five nickel corners in the league the

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Speaker 3: On the field, and he would fit in really well.

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Speaker 2: Braden Fiske is there, braswell, Rakestraw, Roman Wilson, Ricky Pearsall.

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Speaker 3: I think I take Pierce All of that group ruro interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I take there wasn't a.

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Speaker 3: Tackle that's jumping off the board, right.

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Speaker 2: Not that I saw there. No, they all went for

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Speaker 2: Jordan Morgan's the best.

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Speaker 3: I really don't think he's a tackle. No, Pierce All

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Speaker 3: to me is a number two NFL receiver which has

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Speaker 3: a lot of value.

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Speaker 2: A right Pierce All is the pick. We're back up

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Speaker 2: now at fifty one. Guess who's still there? Top player

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Speaker 2: available is still I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: There is Fisher available.

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Speaker 2: Is Chris Braswell, Roman Wilson, Bullard, dec Isaac, Tavian Sanders, R.

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Speaker 3: Jenkins, and.

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Speaker 2: Jenkins. Chris Jenkins is there.

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Speaker 3: I think I take Ruke Jenkins or Saintstrow.

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Speaker 2: Let me see something here real quick.

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Speaker 3: In these arguments, I usually lean towards the big person.

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Speaker 2: But the offense, Blake Fisher is still available. We got

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Speaker 2: two trade offers. Let's see if what's the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: on the phone they get picked fifty six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's not a guy that I'm running to

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Speaker 3: the podium for at the second.

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Speaker 2: They got fifty six and then eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also on the phone are the Raiders pick Now we're

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Speaker 2: fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Fifty six will work. We'll get one of those dudes.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if what they'll they what they'll give us here?

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Speaker 2: So if we give them fifty six or we get

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Speaker 2: fifty six and eighty seven for fifty one, and I

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Speaker 2: don't want to give him ninety eight. That doesn't hm

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Speaker 3: If we gave him ninety eight, I want like a

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Speaker 3: future fourth.

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Speaker 2: I want something else. Yeah, eighty seven for ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent. But then Dallas, I want your

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Speaker 2: next year's third. They won't do that, well, eighteen percent chance.

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Speaker 2: How about a fourth?

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Speaker 3: Fourth is value a fourth?

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Speaker 2: There's an eighty three percent chance they would take the

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Speaker 3: Better deal than it was without the fifth.

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Speaker 2: fifty six, eighty seven, next year's fourth and fifth for

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Speaker 3: I'm great with that.

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Speaker 2: All right, right, all right? So the picks they came

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Speaker 3: That was one of the guys.

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Speaker 2: Then Mike sanderstro went nah, then ke On Coleman, Chris Braswell, Javon.

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Speaker 2: trade up to make sure we get Fisher.

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Speaker 3: I'd even consider Fisher here actually, because I'm not worried

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Speaker 3: one of the Florida State dudes or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Is Jenkins special enough to not take Fisher here?

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Speaker 2: I think you take Fisher here because he's there's a punch.

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Speaker 3: I you take Fisher, I'm fine with it. Yeah, Fisher

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Speaker 2: Fisher is the pick. Okay, Okay, we're back up here

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Speaker 2: now at eighty four, and really corners are only need. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: second receiver too, Bucky Irving, Malecai Corley, m Trey Benson,

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Speaker 2: Cameron Kinchins, Jeremiah Trotter, Michael Pratt, Rinardo Green, Christian Mahogany,

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Speaker 2: Segar Van Prinn, Mason McCormick, Brendan Rice, Dominic Pooney, Calen Bullock,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not my pick here. I think I

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Speaker 3: take Andrew Phillips.

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Speaker 3: H And then this next pick can almost be like

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Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Phillips is to pick.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I want to take a look here. Is there a

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Speaker 2: not a ready made guy, but.

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Speaker 3: We can he doesn't have to play much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh see Michael Hall, Dwayne Carter.

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Speaker 3: Michael Hall is the cheaper version of the Newtons of

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Speaker 3: the world. Yeah, you know what I mean. He doesn't fit,

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Speaker 3: but on third and eighties out there.

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Speaker 2: Leonard Taylor a little early for me on him. McKinley, Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Christian Boyd.

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Speaker 3: Who are the receivers?

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith is still there Smith. The receivers are Corley,

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Speaker 2: Jacob Cowing, Ania Smith, Malik Washington, Cornelius Johnson. I might

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Speaker 2: take Masson Smith.

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Speaker 3: I think I take Smith over Courtley.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Massan Smith is the pick. Now we don't pick

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Speaker 2: again until one's seventy eight though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but that's what we filled every need we got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got five of the top ninety eight players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's a nice chunk. We didn't get

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Speaker 3: any of the top thirty one or thirty two, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, we.

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Speaker 2: May have got something that were somebody on that was

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Speaker 2: on our board.

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Speaker 3: Of course we definitely did. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're up here. Now, now we get

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at those wide receivers and see

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Speaker 2: if there's.

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Speaker 3: Something there's a good slot or a decent blocker type

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Speaker 3: that's steady.

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Speaker 2: Casey Washington out of Illinois to Corey and Clark at

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Speaker 2: a UTSA.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Gold Yeah that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Cephas, David White Junior from Western Carolina, Jordan

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Speaker 2: Whittington from Texas, Dominic Lovett from Georgia, Zakari Franklin from Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: Weddington wouldn't be bad either.

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Speaker 2: Hayden Hatton from Idaho.

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Speaker 3: What about safety?

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Speaker 2: At the safety position?

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Speaker 3: We took a slot corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the safety position. You're looking at James Williams.

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Speaker 2: Who's really a linebacker. Jalen Simpson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, not bad. No, it's not a bad pickup.

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Speaker 2: Uh. We want to help our special team.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say. Special teams has a lot to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: Think about the John Anthony m Okay, he will stick people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, and he can work his way slowly

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Speaker 3: into the defense. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Omar Brown from Nebraska, Trey Taylor, Dominice Hampton, uh, Catana.

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Speaker 2: A lot of pos out there too.

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Speaker 3: I think we take one of these safeties.

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Speaker 2: Which one do you like the best?

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Speaker 3: Probably Simpson, but those other couple names you mentioned are

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Speaker 3: all pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he does some corner stuff.

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Speaker 3: I thought he did a lot of slot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's decent. Not a slot last time.

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Speaker 3: What's his height?

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Speaker 2: And wait he is I believe like yeah, six one eight,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he's not big for safety, but he's

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Speaker 3: big for a slot. Yeah, any of those safeties are

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Speaker 3: appealing to me. We can even go a different direction.

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Speaker 3: Is there are not even? Yeah? I mean what if

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Speaker 3: like a dude from Colorado States.

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Speaker 2: There or Jalen Harrol Solomon Boy, Jalen Green, Brennan Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Khalid Duke, JJ Weaver and that got pretty pid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty rough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? How about inside backer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's give Danny Smith something here.

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Speaker 2: Steel Chambers, Tyron Hopper, Jalen Ford kind of like Ford.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Jacobs is there?

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Speaker 3: Do you like those guys better than the safety?

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Speaker 2: Travan Wallace is there? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think I'd take Wallace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I take three.

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Speaker 3: We were taking Kentucky guy too, right, Yeah, together, buddies.

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Speaker 2: All right, now we're back up here at one ninety five.

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Speaker 2: We can probably get one of those safeties.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Probably, let's take a look here. Safety de Jon Anthony

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Speaker 2: is there? Omar Brown.

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Speaker 3: One other position I'd look at. I doubt those guys

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Speaker 3: are there. But is there only six two corners that

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Speaker 3: we could throw in the Trice rush mix?

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Speaker 2: And probably not in this draft? Johnny Dixon, Josh Wallace. Uh,

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Speaker 2: theykad one hardy Miles Harden, AJ Woods.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, Okay, I was just taking a shot

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Speaker 3: in the dark. Yeah, would you consider a running back

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Speaker 3: or a tight end?

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Speaker 2: I don't think probably not. They're probably not going to

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Speaker 2: make your roster.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, i'd be on the I'd be on the horn

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Speaker 3: with undrafted running backs. Oh yeah, I mean heavy, heavy, heavy, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but not a pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I would just pointing, hey, look, come to

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Speaker 2: this team.

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Speaker 3: J Warren. Yeah, uh, who's best available?

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Speaker 2: Best available?

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Speaker 3: It's our last pick, right, Yeah? A J.

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Speaker 2: Barner, Tip Raymond, a couple of Cody Schrader.

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Speaker 3: I just said I wouldn't take a tight end, but

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Speaker 3: I like those two tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might invite one the kid. Yeah, you've got

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Speaker 2: five though, I know that's the problem there.

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Speaker 3: You probably we keep four.

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Speaker 2: I think you take Dejon Anthony or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm absolutely cool with that developmental safety that

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Speaker 3: will knock your head off in the meantime on games, kill.

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Speaker 2: It on teams.

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Speaker 3: We took Dejon Anthony, probably the first time we've had

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Speaker 3: him on our team. Yeah, we probably did at different build.

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Speaker 2: We probably didn't grade real well here on Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Focus because we took some guys ahead of their slots.

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Speaker 3: Remember Fisher was way ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about their.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about their grades.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got fs on A. Mason Smith, then Travon

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Speaker 2: Wallace at one seventy eight. We got an get out

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Speaker 2: of here, come on man, uh we got Well what

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Speaker 2: we came out of this with was Zach Frasier. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ricky Piarasol. If that was after the trade down, then

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Speaker 2: we got Dallas's fourth and fifth round picks.

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Speaker 3: Nowt So let's not forget about that. That's nice.

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Speaker 2: Blake Fisher, Andrew Phillips, Massan Smith, Travon Wallace, Dejon Anthony.

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Speaker 3: So I think we've got three starters on offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's that hard to go over the guys on in

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Speaker 3: our Nickel corner, unle corner, developmental d Lineman, special teams out.

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Speaker 2: I think miss On Smith his bat, it's such a

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Speaker 2: good environment for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just think that his best days are ahead of

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Speaker 2: him in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Me too. I'd love for him to be hanging out

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Speaker 3: with Cam for the year and work him in slow,

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Speaker 3: work them in slow, yeah, and the next year he's Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he takes you top dudes. Yeah, I'd love to see

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Speaker 3: him end up here. It's an interesting build. It's not

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Speaker 3: my favorite, but I wanted to do one where we

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Speaker 3: didn't have a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: According to this this draft ranks in the top eighty

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Speaker 2: five percent of Steeler drafts.

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Speaker 3: No really, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, because if you got

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Speaker 2: a B minus, we'd think we get a better grade

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Speaker 2: of his.

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Speaker 3: I think we got a lot of B players. I

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Speaker 3: don't care about their stupid great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care either, but I'll take I'll take

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Speaker 2: four or five six B players in the draft. That's fine,

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Speaker 2: give me, give me a bunch of doubles.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like much, but once it gets long,

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Speaker 3: I mean, not having a first round contract also gives

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Speaker 3: he also doesn't You also have the fifth year option.

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Speaker 2: But it's also a center, so right right, you know,

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Speaker 2: are you gonna want to pay? That's the that's the

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Speaker 2: they don't discern all offensive linemen are all the same.

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Speaker 3: If you pick up a Okay, let's say Linderbaum is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's gonna be all like twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might as well just offer him a contract

445
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Speaker 3: for eighteen a year, yeah, and make him the high

446
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Speaker 3: He may say no, And he might say no like

447
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Speaker 3: I'll just wait out. I'll wait Yeah. Like he might

448
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Speaker 3: get more as a fifty year option than he would

449
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Speaker 3: on the open market. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was a total free agent. You might

451
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Speaker 3: have to pay him.

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Speaker 2: That's where option when people talk about value in the

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Speaker 2: first round or like guards. Yeah, guards and guards and

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Speaker 2: centers out big time running backs. On the other hand,

455
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Speaker 2: if you're taking a running back in the first round, right,

456
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Speaker 2: it's still.

457
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Speaker 3: Very That's why I mentioned fift year options. Everyone wants

458
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Speaker 3: say they should have taken Creed Humphrey with that pick.

459
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Speaker 3: I get that he's been a very good player, but

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Speaker 3: you would be in a real dilemma right now had

461
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Speaker 3: you made Creed Humphrey that pick and not nausey. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it would have been better for

463
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Speaker 3: the team. I mean, I'm not, but that comes into

464
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Speaker 3: play whenever you make that choice of in five years,

465
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Speaker 3: four years, why don't give this guy six million? Or

466
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Speaker 3: do I to make him the highest paid center on

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Speaker 3: the planet, right.

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Speaker 2: Like the running back is six point whatever million. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 2: and for a center, it's like eighteen or nineteen million.

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Speaker 3: You have to pay him Trent Williams money.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a bad system, right, So that's why you

473
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Speaker 3: don't take the center in round more. Yeah, so folks

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Speaker 3: think about that too, when Zack Frasier's on the Earth

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Speaker 3: Power Johnson's on the board, or you know, Barton, it's

476
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Speaker 3: down the road, but it's not economically sound. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, that's our latest mock draft that's on the Pro

478
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Speaker 2: Football Focus game. Ended up with Zach Fraser, Ricky Piersaw,

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Speaker 2: Blake Fisher, Andrew Phillips, mased On Smith, Travon Wallace, and

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Speaker 2: Dejon Anthony. That was after trading back with Carolina out

481
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Speaker 2: of the first rounds. First time we've done that.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, traded again.

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Speaker 3: There more picks for next year two.

485
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Speaker 2: We loaded up. Yeah, we get the fourth and fifth

486
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Speaker 2: round picks from the Cowboys. Not great picks, but it's

487
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Speaker 2: still AMMO.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, we have a ton of

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Speaker 3: Day three picks.

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Speaker 2: We have like three fifth round picks. Next year two

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Speaker 2: fourth round picks, which.

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Speaker 3: If this was going in real time, maybe we would

493
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Speaker 3: have got rid of our six and seventh next year,

494
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Speaker 3: moved up for a player we liked a little bit

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Speaker 3: better in round five or something like that we couldn't

496
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Speaker 3: believe was there, you know that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, we still had Trayvon Wallace one seventy eight. That's yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was going to be there. That

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Speaker 2: was a crazy yeah. Nice football Focus doesn't like him

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Speaker 2: so apparently. Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. He's Matt Williams and I'm Dale

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Speaker 2: Lolly and Matt. Last week, NFL dot Com did the

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Speaker 2: NFC roster reset and mare coming out of the coming

510
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Speaker 2: out of free agency and heading into the draft. This week,

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Speaker 2: they did it with the AFC. Judy Batista, friend.

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Speaker 3: Of the show, she joined us in the combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Judy does good work there. So she did redid

514
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Speaker 2: the AFC hierarchy and this is kind of where she

515
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Speaker 2: has everything here.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: She is in a class of their own. The Kansas

518
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Speaker 2: City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Track record of late's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 2: As long as they have that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be and reed and Kelsey doesn't fall

522
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Speaker 3: off a cliff, you know, and even if they can.

523
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Speaker 2: Just that would worry me if I was them.

524
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Speaker 3: I thought he fell off last year but then saved

525
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Speaker 3: his best for last. You know. That's some of the

526
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Speaker 3: Chris Jones stuff too, is I think they monitor their

527
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Speaker 3: effort a little bit like the Golden State Warriors to

528
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Speaker 3: some degree. But they should, I guess, be in the

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Speaker 3: class are own. They've proven to be super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Champions teams in the chase in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Okay Baltimore, no doubt, although I think they're a worst

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Speaker 3: team now than we saw them last I really do.

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Speaker 2: I think several of these teams on this list are

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Speaker 2: worse than they will be to me, where we get

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Speaker 2: to them? So yet Baltimore, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Houston, which is

536
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Speaker 2: better than they were, Yeah, they definitely are. Miami is

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Speaker 2: another team that's worse than they were when you last

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Speaker 2: saw them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Miami would be in the hunt for me.

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Speaker 3: What would be would be for them. I'm a little

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Speaker 3: uncertain about Buffalo. I think they're a quarterback and not

542
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Speaker 3: much else at the moment. But boy is he a quarterback.

543
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Speaker 3: But this could be a true step back, you know,

544
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Speaker 3: season for them as they start to you know, they

545
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Speaker 3: picked up an extra second round pick. Next year, they

546
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Speaker 3: if they draft well again over the next two seasons,

547
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Speaker 3: they could be right back on top. But I think

548
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Speaker 3: this year is gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: I think they have like ten draft picks this year,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's they get a nail. They got a nail,

552
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Speaker 3: and they got a bunch in the future.

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Speaker 2: You can say the same with Baltimore. Right They got

554
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Speaker 2: some serious offensive line holes right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't love losing coordinators either from these teams. If

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Speaker 3: I were to do an overall power ranking of the NFL, though,

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Speaker 3: I would still have Baltimore in the top five. I mean,

558
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Speaker 3: I think San Francisco is ahead of them Kansas City,

559
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Speaker 3: but this was a rough offseason for them, Yeah, really rough.

560
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Speaker 3: But they're a little more fragile than they used to be.

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Speaker 3: Daven draft as well as people think too by the way,

562
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Speaker 3: or as many picks as they usually do.

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Speaker 2: The vast middle class is what she calls the group,

564
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Speaker 2: and I think some of these are are well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I think it's as vast as it

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Speaker 3: used to be.

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Speaker 2: The first team that she lists in the vast middle

568
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Speaker 2: class is the Chargers, And I don't think the Chargers

569
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Speaker 2: are in the middle.

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Speaker 3: I think they're a bottom feeder. Yeah for now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: right for now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville did.

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Speaker 3: Be in the lower end. Yeah, some organizations I don't

574
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Speaker 3: trust in.

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Speaker 2: They're one of them, the Jets. Speaking of that, see.

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Speaker 3: I almost suggested them for the one above this. They're old,

577
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Speaker 3: so old, and they're so fragile. I mean they have

578
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Speaker 3: was it osteoporosis if you fall down the steps and

579
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Speaker 3: break all your bones, like I mean, like everything has

580
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Speaker 3: to go right.

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Speaker 2: They might be mister Glassy.

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Speaker 3: Exactly like they That's who they are.

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Speaker 2: Do you hear the Rogers quote from this? I think

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Speaker 2: he said it earlier this week. Did he thought his

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Speaker 2: career was over?

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Speaker 3: I know I did see that. Yeah, like it, and.

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Speaker 2: It still might be.

588
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Speaker 3: We don't know that he's going to be back, right.

589
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Speaker 3: I think they spend a buck on a backup Tyro Taylor,

590
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Speaker 3: maybe somebody better than they had. It was somebody that

591
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Speaker 3: cost six to seven million. You know it wasn't a throw.

592
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Speaker 2: Because they don't there's no guarantee that he plays right

593
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Speaker 2: early in the season.

594
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Speaker 3: Or doesn't re injured it quickly. Old. I mean, they're

595
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Speaker 3: mister Glass. I do think their best day though on paper,

596
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Speaker 3: I'm not also sold on their coach, to be honest

597
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Speaker 3: with you, and their coordinator was a disastrous Denversad coach.

598
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Speaker 3: He's Aaron Rodgers buddy. But I could also see them

599
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Speaker 3: winning the division. Okay, you know, I don't think I'll

600
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Speaker 3: predict it because I'm down on Miami, I think England stinks,

601
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Speaker 3: and I think and I'm down on Buffalo. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: pick them to win the North.

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Speaker 2: No, no, right, Cleveland is on that list.

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Speaker 3: They might be my one of my top ones for

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Speaker 3: that list. In the middle, they're better than the Chargers,

606
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Speaker 3: the Steelers. Steelers would be right there with the Browns

607
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Speaker 3: and the Colts. Yeah, I think they're going the right direction.

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Speaker 2: At least they need to keep the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think will have a better year, the

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Speaker 3: Jags or the Colts. Seems like an easy choice to

611
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Speaker 3: say the Jags. But I think I trust one coaching

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Speaker 3: staff more.

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Speaker 2: I trust one front office more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also trust one quarterback more, and that's in Jacksonville. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I think i'd take the Colts. Run the ball,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and Richardson and maybe you added Brian Thomas

617
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Speaker 3: to the offense or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Something like that, if you were putting, if you were now,

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Speaker 2: she put them in Chargers, Jaguars, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Colts.

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Speaker 2: I assume, since those aren't in alphabetical order, that she

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Speaker 2: did that on purpose.

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Speaker 3: Because she didn't put Baltimore atop their conference thing too,

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Speaker 3: So it's that probably is an order. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: agree with the order.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with the order.

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Speaker 3: Chargers would be last.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers would definitely be last.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not even I would have Miami in this conversation,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know how i'd rank Miami, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Yeah,

630
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Speaker 3: they might be their own middle class, upper middle class,

631
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Speaker 3: or maybe it would be Miami, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and the

632
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Speaker 3: Jets because and the Jets. Jets are so weird.

633
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if everything goes right for the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, they could be great, but it probably won't.

635
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: But it probably won't right.

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Speaker 3: Right, Chargers. I think if everything goes right they win

637
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Speaker 3: eight games. Yeah, Colts and Jags would be above the Chargers,

638
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: but not in the same tier as Miami Jets, Steelers, Browns.

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Speaker 2: For me, the Browns, their quarterback needs to play decently.

640
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Speaker 2: There's a reason they've signed so many quarterbacks, Like they

641
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: went out and got guys at the quarterbacks.

642
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Speaker 3: The poor dudes making money at that position.

643
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Speaker 2: Though, because they don't trust to Shan Watson. Yeah, they

644
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: needed money this year to do to make moves and

645
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Speaker 2: didn't move any of it with de Shaan Watson. They

646
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Speaker 2: didn't want to move money into future years because they're

647
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: not sure they're going to resign him when this contract

648
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Speaker 2: is right.

649
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: They don't want him around longer than he has to be,

650
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Speaker 3: is what they're telling me.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're saying.

652
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Speaker 3: And they could change your mind after this year and

653
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Speaker 3: then restructure again. But I thought that was a foregone

654
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Speaker 3: conclusion that they were going to kick the can down

655
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Speaker 3: the road again. And I think they're looking at each

656
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Speaker 3: other like, may not be good.

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Speaker 2: He's played twenty two games in or rest football.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when Brissette and Flacco or a quarterbacks, Yeah, two

659
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: different years. Right, that's been their best quarterback play.

660
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not been close to that when Watson is played.

661
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Speaker 3: And they could be competitive when he's not good, but

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Speaker 3: they can't be a contender. Yeah. I mean if their

663
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: defense is playing like it did at home last year

664
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: and they can run the ball with Nick Chubb, who's

665
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: ball with Nick Chubb? You know.

666
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, let's put it this way. So let's do

667
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: a little scenario here. Yeah, that Deshaun Watson, we're right

668
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: now available, Okay, in this offseason.

669
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, before the off season broke, before the.

670
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Offseason started, Okay, he was his contract was up in Cleveland.

671
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, he's Kirk.

672
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirk Cousins gets paid before him.

673
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

674
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: I think Russell Wilson has a team before.

675
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Him, definitely with the contract situation. Yeah, I mean i'd

676
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: Rotch rather of Russell Wilson a league minimum than whatever

677
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: the going rate is for Watson, which wouldn't be a

678
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: contract like, it wouldn't be this, nobody would sign to

679
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: this deal.

680
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I think I think Baker Mayfield would have gotten signed

681
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: before he.

682
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: Did, especially because it's his own team. Yeah, I mean,

683
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: I think they were real happy to get him.

684
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: But if Tampa, if Tampa was looking at I go, well,

685
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: we could sign Baker for this where we could have

686
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. They're gonna go with Baker Mayfield.

687
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: Do you have a cousins deal with the Falcons was

688
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: a three year deal guarantee Yeah, around thirty.

689
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't really fully guaranteed, but it's.

690
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: Close to it. Yeah. I think it's like one hundred.

691
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: Over three something along those lines.

692
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Watson would be in like the twenty

693
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: four over two or you know twenty four.

694
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: The way he's played the last two years. I couldn't.

695
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: I couldn't sign up for that, right, like would I

696
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: think like the Raiders would give him a fifty million

697
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: over two. You and I are both on record as

698
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: saying Russell Wilson isn't what he was of course three

699
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: or four years ago. Yeah, but at one million dollars,

700
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: that's totally different, totally totally different story. If he stinks

701
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: he could, he doesn't even have to make the team right,

702
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to be that back next year,

703
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: and it's the best risk in the world. But to

704
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: pay pay Deshaun Watson's been worse.

705
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: And he's been worse. He's been worse, and they're and

706
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: not even the hypothetical world we're talking about is if

707
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: you were a free agent, which a good world to

708
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: talk about with real player value, Like if this guy

709
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: was on the open market, what would he get. He'd

710
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: get overpaid, as almost everyone on the open market does,

711
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: but what would the league value him at? You know,

712
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: like Fields would have been valued a lot more had

713
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: he been a free a free agent, Yeah, I mean

714
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: he's making fifteen million. Somebody would have signed him, oh yeah,

715
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: and given him more than the Steelers gave up for Yeah,

716
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: that's a different conversation. But what we do know is

717
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Watson's contract is horrendous. I mean, it's one of the worst.

718
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: It's the worst contract is ever signed.

719
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: Especially when you the worst trade, yeah, worse acquisition.

720
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: It's worse than Denver training for Russell Wilson.

721
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's as bad compensation wise but

722
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: it's worse contractually.

723
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

724
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: And the off field stuff. Oh, by the way, I

725
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: mean that you took it.

726
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: You took a hit in the like. You have fans

727
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: that won't go to your games now because you've got

728
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: this guy on your ross, right.

729
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean that was a big deal, especially when they

730
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: signed them, you know, I mean that was It's controversial.

731
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: The bottom feeders in the Great Unknowns is what she

732
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: calls them. That's kind Yeah, the Raiders, the Chargers will

733
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: being there, by the way, Yeah, the Chargers will be

734
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: in this group. To me, the Raiders, the Titans, the Patriots,

735
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: the Broncos.

736
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I think all. I don't think the Chargers are in

737
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: that neighborhood in terms of might get the first overall pick.

738
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: They might have a top ten pick though, oh I.

739
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Think they will. But I think those four teams.

740
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: They're seriously going into a season saying Gus Edwards is

741
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: going to be their bellcow.

742
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: They'll get They'll draft Blake korhum or something. But that

743
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: means they don't have anything else, Like they're the tackles

744
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: are terrible, their linebackers are terrible. Everyone's talking about right

745
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: tackle or a receiver. Yeah, I mean their receivers are horrendous,

746
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: but you can live with Pipkins as your right tackle. Yeah.

747
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: Some of the positions groups they have you can't live with.

748
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: And they have no debt. That being said, unless Herbert

749
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: gets hurt, I can't write a story where the Chargers

750
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: pick for overall those other teams just mentioned. I could

751
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: write that story.

752
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh there's no doubt. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

753
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: Levis falls on his face, which I give him a

754
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: thirty percent chance of being a success, which is a

755
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: pretty good percentage. That's not even killing the guy. And

756
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders don't have a quarterback, Denver doesn't have a quarterback,

757
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: and New England's are the least talented of all.

758
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: That's to me is why like the Christian Wilkins signing

759
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: for the Raiders.

760
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: It's not the right move for them.

761
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Why why? Why do that?

762
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: I would rather have three starters than him, and I

763
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: love Wilkins.

764
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they should have done what the Titans did, Yeah,

765
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: and approached free agency that way instead of making a

766
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: big splash. And I get it, they're in Vegas. They

767
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: have to make a lash weird team because we're going

768
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: to get your attention here.

769
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they need to put something in the

770
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: billboard and him and Max Crosby.

771
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: That's why you made DeVante adamstraight, all right?

772
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: And I don't think they've been well run since ten

773
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: years before Al David passed away, you know what I mean, Like,

774
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that sunny boy Davis learned a lot

775
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: from Allen his prime.

776
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: He certainly hasn't learned how to get a haircut too.

777
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: Fashion Maybe fashion statement doesn't run in the family, but

778
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: now I don't I'm not impressed with that organization. They

779
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: should trade Devonte Adams. They should they should trade Max Crosby.

780
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: I know that. I mean, that's a different story. But

781
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: if you get two firsts and you know what I mean,

782
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: you don't sign Christian Wilkins on that timeline.

783
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: I mean, their defense signing Wilkins should be better.

784
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean your d line's good, No, it's

785
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: really good.

786
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

787
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: But so you win one more game, yeah, so.

788
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: You of course you win six games instead of five.

789
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, on that timeline, you don't sign Christian Wilkins.

790
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who should I mean, like the

791
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Texan should have signed Christian Wilkins. Yeah, they have the

792
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: young quarterback. They have things in place. You got it,

793
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: left tackle, you've got a corner. Okay, let's put the

794
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: cherry on top.

795
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: It would have made sense for the Jaguars.

796
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean teams like that. I

797
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: mean a rookie contract dude, or Arizona, you know what

798
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, there's plenty of them. But the Raiders,

799
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: They're timeline is not go get the biggest free agent

800
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: out there.

801
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bears should have done that.

802
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: Bears should have done it exactly. They had the money,

803
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: they had the money, they got this, they knew the

804
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: quarterback's going to be. Yeah, there's five of those type

805
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: of teams. Yeah, okay, maybe it's an overspend, but he's

806
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: a leader, he's really good at what he does. You know,

807
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: he'd be on the billboards too. You know, it's a

808
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: hard position to find.

809
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders just keep they keep acquiring those kind

810
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: of got these these high profile guys.

811
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 3: I always go back to the three off seasons quarter

812
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: to two off seasons ago. I know they had the

813
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: conversation of should we blow this thing up? I think

814
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: that's when they got rid of Rudin. I'm trying to

815
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: think of the timeline it was the off season they

816
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: signed to Vonte Adams. Yeah, and they were the massive

817
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: crossroads where they still had Car at this point, who

818
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: was coming off an Okay.

819
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: They would be a better team right now if they

820
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: still had Car, they would be They wouldn't be in

821
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: this grouping here. They might be in the next one.

822
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: It might be better than the Chargers, yeah, you know,

823
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: better than the Titans and those teams at least. But

824
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: that that off season, they said to themselves, should we

825
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: push all our chips in Vegas, pun included, and go

826
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: after an Adams and make a run for this thing

827
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: and try to knock off Mahomes and Herbert and the

828
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: best guys in our division in the AFC, Or should

829
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: we sell it all and get a million draft picks? Well,

830
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: they made their own choice. Yeah, that was like two

831
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: off seasons ago. Yeah, you don't.

832
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: They were coming off a playoff appearance.

833
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd snuck into the playoffs. Car was coming off

834
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: a good year. I mean, he wasn't the He was

835
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: a Kirk Cousins level guy at that point.

836
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: You know, I love I don't love Carr, but I

837
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: he's he's okay, better than what they're running out there.

838
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: Now I haven't been impressed with them in a Saints uniform,

839
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: but he was better with the Raiders then.

840
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean there's I don't know what the

841
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: Saints offense is asking him to do. There were some

842
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: of that. So I wrote my five for Friday today

843
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: about the tight end stuff we talked about earlier in

844
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: the week. Yeah, and somebody, what you know, Russell Wilson

845
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: doesn't throw to the middle of the field at all.

846
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: All he did last year was shucked down to the

847
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: running backs. That's Sean Payton's offense.

848
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: That say, that's Kamara cut. Yeah, that's why I.

849
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: Come on a hundred passes every year because that's all

850
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: they do. They checked down to the running backs.

851
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: It's funny if you if you pull up like the

852
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: back of Kamara's football card, he was three years in

853
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: a row. I think he had eighty one catches. Yeah,

854
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: or it's eighty three one of the two, like three

855
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: years in a row, exact same stat line. And it

856
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: was very efficient. Yeah, I mean they were good.

857
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: At that was their offense.

858
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

859
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: So that's what they did last year in Denver. If

860
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: if he wasn't throwing the ball down the sideline, he

861
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: checked it down to the running backs.

862
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean does he have to throw in the

863
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: middle field more to be effective? Yes? Did that make

864
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: Peyton a little bonkers? I think so, But I think

865
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: it was more holding the football and not playing with

866
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: the timing and rhythm that that.

867
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: I think it was the sacks that he took, right,

868
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: It was the biggest thing.

869
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: Peyton wouldn't have traded for Wilson because it's not the

870
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: scheme fit. I mean the older he inherited Wilson, you know, right.

871
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: So anyways, that's Judy Batista's uh.

872
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: I agree with the most rankings. Yeah, chief should be

873
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: alone Chiefs, especially with the Bills going backwards and the

874
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: Raven's going back.

875
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: They deserve to be it. Would you keep the in

876
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: the chase teams in that order?

877
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: What were they?

878
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Houston, Miami. Is Buffalo better than Houston

879
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: right now?

880
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Maybe I was gonna say, let's not get too excited

881
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: about Houston. You gotta win something first to be with

882
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: the big dogs.

883
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: And there's often a regression from a first year quarterback

884
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: to year or two because now everybody's everybody's had the

885
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: entire offseason to study Stroud. Here's what he does well,

886
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: here's what he doesn't handle well. And he's going to

887
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: see that. Anything he didn't handle well his rookie year,

888
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: he is going to see that in the first month

889
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: of this season until he shows he can handle.

890
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: It, especially the coordinators in that division. Yeah, I mean

891
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: that's going to be a huge off season project is study.

892
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: Stroud, Let's find let's find the flaws.

893
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: So I know this isn't how it went. But if

894
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: the Bills or Ravens would have had a Houston like

895
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: off season, I would have put him in Tier one. Yeah,

896
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: but they had like the worst off season.

897
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Cincinnati belongs there because they're getting burrowed back.

898
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: Think I was a little hesitant though. I mean they've

899
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: lost some things, and I still think they're a top

900
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 3: eight NFL team.

901
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Can burrow stay healthy?

902
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 3: Can borrow stay healthy? The defense stunk last year.

903
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: It was bad.

904
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the under report everything. You know, everyone

905
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: wants to kill, you know, blame or Burrows. The only

906
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: reason they had a bad year. It was the number

907
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: one reason times one thousand. But their defense was like

908
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: eighth in DVOA two years ago and like twenty eighth

909
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, it wasn't just because they were on

910
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 3: the field all the time. They were getting gashed.

911
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think they do. I think they're built

912
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: to play with leads and rush the passer, and you

913
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: couldn't do that last year. They're able to stick with

914
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: a run against them, and they couldn't stop.

915
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: I got blown up and Reader got hurt. Yeah, but yeah,

916
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: they're not the only team that had lost a safety

917
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: or two and their nose tackles got hurt.

918
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: So the question then is is are those are those teams?

919
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: Is Baltimore, Cincinnati, Houston, Buffalo, Miami. Are they closer to

920
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City or is that middle class?

921
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: I think they're closer to the Browns and Steelers.

922
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Chargers, Jets. Yeah, if we think that the Brown, Steelers, Jets,

923
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: Brown Steelers, Jets, Colts, Colts, I think they're closer. I

924
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: think they're closer to Miami than Baltimore is the Kansas City.

925
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: Right now, that being said, are we giving Kansas City

926
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: too much credit? Because I see exactly how you're looking

927
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: at that. You know that some of those teams, Miami

928
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: could be a very middling team three out of four championships,

929
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: I know, But the regular season Chiefs weren't that great

930
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: this year. They weren't. You know, they weren't. They weren't

931
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: that great.

932
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: They lost to Denver, you know, they lost. They lost

933
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: some games.

934
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't look like but until it mattered,

935
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: they kicked it, are ye, until it really mattered. So no,

936
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: I would. I'm not selling them short, but I'm not

937
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: sure they're as good a football team as they were

938
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: in the Tyreek years. Issues that tackle tackles bad. Yeah right, yeah,

939
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 3: so interesting.

940
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt

941
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Williams and I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive.

942
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,239
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943
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: finish up the show right after this.

944
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945
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
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946
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947
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880
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953
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but Tom Brady

954
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: said he's not opposed to returning to the NFL if

955
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: the right team calls him.

956
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: If anyone could. I mean, he was pretty good when

957
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: he left Raiders.

958
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: The way he said this, it would be a quarterback

959
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: needy team that I think is in the hunt and

960
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: has somebody get hurt.

961
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so so not the Raiders.

962
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: He's not gonna cot. Tom Brady's not going to come

963
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: back to lose.

964
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Mahomes gets hurt or Allen, Yeah, something like

965
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: that would have to happen. Give me a call and

966
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: we'll figure it out. Yeah. I know that sounds bonkers,

967
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: but I like his chances better than any one of

968
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: his contemporaries, including Ben or you know. I mean, his

969
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: game was never built on brawn or you know he would.

970
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: He always threw the football really well, but he was

971
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: always so smart. And bet he's in shape or closer

972
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: enough if you give him a month. I mean, we

973
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: saw Flacco come off the couch, you know what I mean, Like,

974
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: I bet he could do at least so if Flacco

975
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: wasn't as good for.

976
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: The Yeah, the Flacco stuff was overrated.

977
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: Yes, he put the ball in harms ways so much.

978
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: He threw an interceptions in those games.

979
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. He just is out there chucking it. Nothing to

980
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: lose off the couch like Brady.

981
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: He started for three hundred yards in for straight Yeah,

982
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: but he started receptions.

983
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: Right, He got hit a ton and the ball it

984
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: fumbled a ton, Yes, and it still was some of

985
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: the best quarterback plays. The Browns bad, you know, back

986
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: to out of the conversation. But I think Brady would

987
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: be at least that good. There's a guy's what teams

988
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: do we do?

989
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: We think that could.

990
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Be Kansas City? Yeah, Niners for sure. He grew up Niners. Yeah,

991
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that's probably what he's hoping for.

992
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure.

993
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: Rams. I'm thinking about quarterback friendly coaches Detroit. Yes, they

994
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: got a line. Yeah, they can run the ball. He

995
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: could stay out of arm's way.

996
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: They I'm just thinking about teams that are let's say

997
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: it's eight weeks into the season, that I mean, right,

998
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: and your team's sitting there at five and three or

999
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: six and two or something along those lines.

1000
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: And it's four plays in like a Rogers injury.

1001
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: You know, well, the Jets could have done that last year.

1002
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: I was wondering about the Jets, and I assume they

1003
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: at least.

1004
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: See I think would call him. I don't know if

1005
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: he would say he's thinking about you just.

1006
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: Got Aaron hurt. I'm not because wasn't good.

1007
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: I see what your line looks like. I don't like

1008
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: your offensive coordinator. You've never won in my lifetime, you know, like.

1009
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: I used to. I'm used to beating you. Not I

1010
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: don't want to be play for that reason. I couldn't

1011
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: see him going to any of the AFCAST teams.

1012
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: I was wondering about Miami or Buffalo.

1013
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see I think there's

1014
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: just you know, eighteen seasons or twenty seasons, whatever he

1015
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: played in that division. You can't put on that year.

1016
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Here's a weird one, though. What if Mayfield gets hurt?

1017
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Maybe good memories there, yeah, maybe yeah, maybe I at

1018
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: least there's familiarity.

1019
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: It's not those receivers.

1020
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that one's maybe the worst situation he

1021
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: would consider. Detroit's a great one, San Franz a great one.

1022
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh maybe maybe you know, it's mid's midway through the season.

1023
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: You have to have two injuries so here, Yeah, you know,

1024
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's a little bit different ripple effect, but

1025
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: maybe it's not insane, like not the Chargers or anything,

1026
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: not one of those teams good quarterbacks. Yeah, but no,

1027
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be like five or six teams.

1028
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: Would you go to Houston about the Browns Watson's terrible

1029
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: Bengals Ravens.

1030
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I can't see the Bengals making them that.

1031
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: They could have done that last year.

1032
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have done that last year. If it's

1033
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: almost too aggressive a move for Bengal Land. Yeah, and

1034
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: he's too different than the Ravens. Yeah, I mean there

1035
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: maybe that make it work.

1036
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: There aren't that many landing spots that.

1037
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe your quarterback gets hurt and I don't know,

1038
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: something something unforeseen. The Falcons are seven and one and

1039
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: Cousins gets hurt. Yeah, they're better, and I thought.

1040
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, they can win that, They're gonna win

1041
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: that division.

1042
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: I'll have my horse built something. But Caleb Williams got

1043
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: hurt and they're five and two.

1044
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: I just think he's very concerned about his legacy.

1045
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: You don't want to be he's Franco and Seattle.

1046
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I mean Willie the mess right, Yeah,

1047
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: he would be why a tittle the bloody wy a

1048
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: tittle on the ground.

1049
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: And you also don't want to be one hit and

1050
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: he doesn't get up right right, you know what I mean?

1051
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: Was he forty five, might be forty six.

1052
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: Now maybe the ship is that's funny talk about, but

1053
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: in reality.

1054
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Christian Wilkins lands on him and then Max Crosby,

1055
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: you know, right, this is a young man's game.

1056
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, I'm always gonna be able to throw

1057
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: the ball to come back for a little bit, like

1058
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan coming back. I don't know if they'd let me,

1059
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Well, Michael Jordan.

1060
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: When Michael Jordan came back and was playing for the Wizards,

1061
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't see the high flying dunks and all

1062
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: that same time sticking out He's just shooting jump shots.

1063
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was thinking like end of career Lemieux when

1064
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: he was owning the team and coming back and wasn't

1065
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: the same player. But yeah it was still super skilled,

1066
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 3: you know, but still he didn't move like he used

1067
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: to or dominate games. You know, he was a past time.

1068
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, sid you know, when's the last I'm Brady

1069
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: throw a football and bet more than we thought. Probably,

1070
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: I bet he's.

1071
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Still keeps up with it some degree.

1072
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: But not as much as he did. And maybe he's

1073
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: instead of eating avocado ice cream, maybe he's having some

1074
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: real ice real ice cream and.

1075
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: A beer once a while, enjoying life at the beach

1076
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: and not working out.

1077
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: He's a single guy now, yeah right.

1078
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: I bet there's like four situations he'd consider. Yeah, I

1079
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: got to be a great coach, great team, and I'm

1080
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: not gonna get hit much. Yeah, good line.

1081
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: You know, well he's not going to get hit much

1082
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: battle because that's just going to come out. Yeah, that's interesting.

1083
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: I think I think the receivers have San Francisco, to me,

1084
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: would be the best. That would be the one that

1085
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: stands above the rest.

1086
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: Like actually, if party would get hurt today, I think

1087
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: Brady would be their quarterback. Yeah, he's a Berry dude.

1088
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: He grew up in Montana fan.

1089
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: They got great receivers, perfect for.

1090
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 3: Him, right, and they might be as good or better.

1091
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean maybe they'd be horrible. I don't know, but

1092
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: that would be an interesting. That's the experiment I'd like

1093
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: to see. Yeah, like even Kansas City, he'd get hit. Yeah,

1094
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: I mean Mahomes five time.

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00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, those tackles are not good.

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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: I mean him and Reid and Kelsey would figure stuff out,

1097
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 3: but it would not be a one for one switch

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00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 3: with Mahomes.

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00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: No, No, yeah, I think I think San Francisco would

1100
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: be the team.

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00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: That would be the team that's a good one.

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00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the only reason he's throwing that out there.

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00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 3: In fact, if party turns into a pumpkin or gets hurt,

1104
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: you know where to find.

1105
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a call. You got my digits.

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00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy stuff.

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: But you know he's also still trying to be part

1108
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: ownership of the of the Raiders.

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00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that hasn't happened, right, No, I know you can't

1110
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: do both.

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00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know how that works.

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00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's getting bored.

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00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: Probably, I mean, when you play the sports that long,

1114
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure when you know he was thinking

1115
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: about retirement, he wanted to hang out with the kids

1116
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, I don't know what the situation is

1117
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: there with him and Gazelle and how much he gets

1118
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 2: to see the kids.

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00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: But some of those dudes are like, go back to work, Dad.

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00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean they're showing highlights here and like him running

1121
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: around and stuff. This is from his Patriot days and

1122
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: he couldn't run real well.

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Speaker 3: Like No, I mean he could always move in the

1124
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: pocket and protect himself, but run No. I mean he

1125
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: didn't run well as Combine. No, but his pocket movement

1126
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: was as good as you oversee.

1127
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he probably doesn't miss getting hit. No, he

1128
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: might miss throwing touchdown passes and winning games, but he

1129
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: doesn't miss getting hit.

1130
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: I wonder if he had that conversation like with Ben

1131
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: who handled hits so well but has been removed from

1132
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: the game now several years. Could you handle twenty sacks

1133
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: over the course of a year. No, I don't know.

1134
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that anybody, right. You know,

1135
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm not lifting weights anymore. I'm not working out like that.

1136
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm not working out for football exactly exactly. I bet

1137
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: the answers No for Rivers, Eli, I mean all those dudes.

1138
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: I think Rivers said the same thing a little while ago,

1139
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: like I could still come back and through, like could you, Philip, because.

1140
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: Forget what team was rumored maybe even last year. That's

1141
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: maybe that they thought by calling him because he was

1142
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: like coaching high school. I'm sure he picks up a

1143
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: football bunch. I don't know, man, there's a lot of

1144
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: room for error on your legacy for all those things.

1145
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, chances are it won't go well.

1146
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bigger chance of that. Then you're gonna

1147
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: add to your legacy.

1148
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, Brady gets another ring. I don't know about that. Yeah,

1149
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if that happened. River

1150
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: finally gets a ring. Probably not.

1151
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not gonna happen. Anyways. I just thought that

1152
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: was funny. It is, so I talk about it a

1153
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: little bit.

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00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: The Boy the Niners, Yeah, that could happen.

1155
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: That would be the one that I would look at

1156
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, that might make some sense.

1157
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: Maybe the Cowboys, Maybe Perfect System in San fran Yeah,

1158
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: maybe Cowboys.

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00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's uh, that's gonna do it for today show.

1160
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 3: He's not a runner, but not a runner at least

1161
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: there's a line in receivers.

1162
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd like the toush push.

1163
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: I wonder if that goes away without Kelsey too. By

1164
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: the way, you might I bet there's success or he

1165
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: won't be as good.

1166
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be. Might That's gonna do it for

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Speaker 2: today's show. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

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Speaker 2: Miller here on site keeping us on the air, I'm

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Speaker 2: Dale Lollie. We appreciate you listening to this edition of

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio