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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,
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Speaker 2: Miles.
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Speaker 1: Media podcast Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff? Please welcome
Speaker 1: Margaret kill.
Speaker 3: John that's me. I didn't prepare a song. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: AKA Magpie that's right, Yeah right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What's the thing about Magpie is the bird?
Speaker 3: Like what did they steal things? Yeah? That is how
Speaker 3: I got the name.
Speaker 1: Oh really they steal shiny stuff, right, and like build
Speaker 1: a little shiny like bachelor pad thing to impress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a shiny object collector. Like like crows and ravens,
Speaker 3: they're pretty related.
Speaker 5: Do they have the same like memory too? Like how
Speaker 5: crows would be like yo, focal one crow. It could
Speaker 5: be smoke from the whole murder.
Speaker 3: I think so only a group of magpies is called
Speaker 3: it tiding.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so much nicer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, I like to take it as
Speaker 3: ominous instead of direct.
Speaker 1: But right, tidings to you, they say before they rob
Speaker 1: your ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Well wait what were you what were you stealing?
Speaker 2: What were you coming up on.
Speaker 4: All the time?
Speaker 3: Mostly food and books, I guess when I was twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got it for two reasons. One, I would like
Speaker 3: find little rusty and shiny things in like the street.
Speaker 3: When I was walking around I was I was like
Speaker 3: a crosspunk squad, and so I would pick up little
Speaker 3: rusty things and make weird bad jewelry with it, eventually
Speaker 3: learn how to make better. And then the other thing is,
Speaker 3: yeah I used to shoplift, Yeah, like it was my
Speaker 3: job because it kind of was, because it's how I
Speaker 3: fed myself and my friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would never advocate.
Speaker 4: Oh whatever, do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whatever it is, do what you gotta do,
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. What is something from your search history?
Speaker 6: Okay, So I've talked about this previously on this podcast.
Speaker 6: I recently started working out with a personal trainer, So
Speaker 6: because of that, I'm really obsessed with macros like macro nutrients,
Speaker 6: making sure I'm eating the right amount of protein. So
Speaker 6: my most recent search history was how much protein is
Speaker 6: in brunch? And I was really stressed while I was
Speaker 6: googling it. My girlfriend and I took out the brunch
Speaker 6: on Sunday and I was just like, oh, shoot too shit,
Speaker 6: Can I make this work with my macros?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Macros are like protein, like the like protein carbs and
Speaker 6: like protein carbs and fat.
Speaker 2: Was it just a fistful of hollow day sauce?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I asked them to sprinkle a little bit
Speaker 6: of chicken into it, just to protein.
Speaker 7: It's like a sippy cup of holiday one holiday sauce,
Speaker 7: one chicken.
Speaker 1: Brass, one holidays please. Yeah, yeah, I love holiday sauce
Speaker 1: with French fries. And the macros on that not good?
Speaker 1: Not good.
Speaker 2: Look you can off set it.
Speaker 6: If you can off set it if you eat some
Speaker 6: just pure slim gems for dinner later.
Speaker 1: Are slim gyms good macros.
Speaker 6: So a lot of the struggles macros is making sure
Speaker 6: that you have like a good protein protein to calorie ratio,
Speaker 6: and sims do have a very good protein calorie ratio.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the sodium like compounds that I.
Speaker 6: Just don't even think about. Oka for sure, I'm for
Speaker 6: sure getting mummified from the inside based on my diet
Speaker 6: right now, right but my protein is but my protein
Speaker 6: level is good.
Speaker 1: They're gonna find your liver in forty five thousand years
Speaker 1: and be like, holy shit, this is perfectly preserved and
Speaker 1: glow and eat it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I gotta say it is. It's so funny
Speaker 6: how obsessed I've gotten with this stuff. I recently heard
Speaker 6: a former dailies I guess guessed I'm Eli Yuden post
Speaker 6: on Twitter something to the effect of, like I'm thinking
Speaker 6: about eating more protein and stuff like that. I immediately
Speaker 6: jumped into his d DMS and was just like, here's
Speaker 6: the best Greek yogurt like brand?
Speaker 2: Just like brand?
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so oh yeah something real opinion So no, no,
Speaker 6: So the the brands that I like is that brand
Speaker 6: called Oikos that is ninety calories for fifteen grams of protein,
Speaker 6: and then there's another brand called Shobani that's sixty calories
Speaker 6: for eleven grams of protein. And they don't taste bad.
Speaker 6: There's a little bit of flavor to them, but it's
Speaker 6: just like if you you know, like if it's the
Speaker 6: end of the day and you're about to go to bed,
Speaker 6: but you're just like, oh, I'm sure on protein by
Speaker 6: ten grams, then you can just like chug a Greek
Speaker 6: yogurt while I was trying to sleep. This is what
Speaker 6: my life is. I'm a cautionary tale. Don't try to
Speaker 6: become me. I hate this.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember when when like Greek yogurt it
Speaker 7: first came out as like a mass marketed product. I
Speaker 7: was still living in New York and one of my coworkers,
Speaker 7: like one of my best like actual work friends, was like.
Speaker 2: Oh no, man, I don't fuck with Greek yogurts. Like
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember, but not say the brand because
Speaker 7: it's a little I guess libelist or whatever.
Speaker 6: But basically it came allegedly alleged, so what hap turned
Speaker 6: his insides into goose?
Speaker 7: Well, it's not about the product. He was like, I
Speaker 7: can't funk, I can't fuck with those that Greek yogurt.
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, well why, I mean, it's good,
Speaker 7: I think, and he was like yeah, like the guy
Speaker 7: that founded the company, like like my friend's wife cheated
Speaker 7: on him with oh no, like like broke up the marriage.
Speaker 7: So it's like, yeah, I don't fuck with Greek yogret.
Speaker 7: I was like, that's a brilliant just like.
Speaker 6: That one brand or like any.
Speaker 7: Just one brand of Greek yogurt. And I don't remember
Speaker 7: which it is. I don't think if I were to guess,
Speaker 7: it would be not polite. I suppose Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why, let's just go with it. Anyways. Top three
Speaker 1: Greek yogurt brands that we think the guy might be.
Speaker 7: Which, yeah, which, which is the Which is the cheat nest,
Speaker 7: cheatness tasted yogurt.
Speaker 6: You gonna say, Jack, where were you with that? With
Speaker 6: that balloon telling him to say six inches apart when exactly.
Speaker 1: Yourself, mister, your work is never done.
Speaker 6: Noos is very virtuous. I'm going to defend to the death.
Speaker 1: It was probably one of the brands that like tells
Speaker 1: their whole founder story on the label, you know.
Speaker 2: Like the found the story was definitely he likes.
Speaker 6: So hard he likes Greek yogurt because it's kind of like,
Speaker 6: this is why he likes the yog this is why
Speaker 6: he got the whole.
Speaker 1: I also remember hearing that Greek yogurt like the process
Speaker 1: for making Greek yogurt. It makes the yogurt very good,
Speaker 1: very great. Macros on that ship, even though you you
Speaker 1: were the Charles Barkley of macros and don't want people
Speaker 1: to think of you as a role model. I don't
Speaker 1: think of you.
Speaker 2: As a role model. Oh I know.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about these macros. But then like the other thing,
Speaker 1: the water or the liquid that gets strained out to
Speaker 1: make it like that hypercondensed greekogret is like poison something
Speaker 1: that I'm covering back in the day, and like they
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with it. They're like, oh no.
Speaker 6: No, I'm sure me like being like eating this very
Speaker 6: specific macro diet is cutting fifty years off of my life.
Speaker 7: No, I think it was like as a as a waste,
Speaker 7: as a waste, yeah, exactly, like acidic or something, yes, hypercidic.
Speaker 2: And it just makes me like it more.
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess what it is is it's very
Speaker 7: clearly just the opposite of the Greek yogurt.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like it's just like that's what they're saying, is
Speaker 1: that the macros on this waste byproduct are terrible.
Speaker 2: That's why it's a waste by product.
Speaker 7: Took you took milk and split it into good and evil.
Speaker 1: That's right, will say Sloan. We do like to also
Speaker 1: ask our guess, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift?
Speaker 8: She's just white.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think of the Republican sort of
Speaker 5: like hysteria over how they're like she's going to swing
Speaker 5: the election.
Speaker 8: They need honestly, thank you for getting the heat off
Speaker 8: of black.
Speaker 2: People to.
Speaker 8: Run it, because this is what you do. Know, if
Speaker 8: Kansas City would have lost the super Bowl, it would
Speaker 8: have been her fault. Yes, but they won and it's
Speaker 8: Travis Kelsey, So she doesn't get the push, she doesn't
Speaker 8: get the benefit of them winning, but she would have
Speaker 8: caught all the heat if they.
Speaker 4: Lost, right, and that's not fair.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not a fan of little Girl, but that's
Speaker 8: just ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't need that kind of missige and
Speaker 4: me flying that way, right, So it.
Speaker 8: Was just like she was gonna catch pure hell. Also
Speaker 8: even if she's still even if she told everybody to
Speaker 8: vote for a specific candidate, that's not illegal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, right, obviously, the only the.
Speaker 8: Thing that's going to swing the election as the policies
Speaker 8: as the Republican Party. But the problem is is that
Speaker 8: nobody wants to in the same way. So when Hilary
Speaker 8: Clinton was running against Trump, I saw something on Instagram
Speaker 8: and it said, all right, let me go get up
Speaker 8: and vote for this girl. And I was like, that
Speaker 8: is perfect. That is exactly how I felt. Let me
Speaker 8: get up and vote for this girl. I'm I decided
Speaker 8: to vote for Biden. But they know that Kamala Harris
Speaker 8: has no chance, right none. So it's like, okay, you
Speaker 8: have to run Biden against Trump. Becau Kamala Harris has
Speaker 8: absolutely no chance. But it's they're the oldest can dates
Speaker 8: in the history of the world, like in the history
Speaker 8: of America.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole.
Speaker 8: Candidates in the history of America. And John said, like
Speaker 8: on the show on Monday, he was like, the last
Speaker 8: time there were people this old was them four.
Speaker 1: Years four years ago. They broke the record of the
Speaker 1: first time.
Speaker 8: So I was like, I was like, damn, that's wild.
Speaker 8: But no, Taylor the Swift anchor, I mean, all she
Speaker 8: did was just increase the sales of pony beads and
Speaker 8: letter beads, and that elastic.
Speaker 1: Bead industry is booming. And that is helping Biden economy.
Speaker 8: Exactly, so shout out to. But also what I don't
Speaker 8: understand is like we've given Taylor Swift all this credit
Speaker 8: for boosting the economy when her and Beyonce had toured
Speaker 8: simultaneously right, and people were breaking the neck literally not
Speaker 8: paying rent to go see both of them. So I'm
Speaker 8: just like, it's not only that she's gonna no, she's
Speaker 8: not gonna swam election with the problem is that people
Speaker 8: are so disengaged that not enough people are going to vote.
Speaker 8: And what the Republican Party is very good at is
Speaker 8: getting their constituents out to vote. Yeah, Democrats aren't paying
Speaker 8: enough attention. Also, they don't have enough money. The Republican
Speaker 8: Party sits on two hundred million dollars, the Democratic Party
Speaker 8: sits on twenty million dollars.
Speaker 5: The way Laura Trump was talking, She's like, if I
Speaker 5: am at the RNC, like, put me there. I'm putting
Speaker 5: every Sea said quote, every single penny of RNC funds
Speaker 5: will be go to his election. It's like, you mean
Speaker 5: in legal fees. I think that's what we're really talking here,
Speaker 5: because that's how so much of his pack money just
Speaker 5: went to his legal fees well, which.
Speaker 8: Is listen, this is why when white people have the
Speaker 8: nerve to look at black people or people of color
Speaker 8: and go, well, how do we You can't ask us
Speaker 8: how to do anything. Y'all know exactly how this works.
Speaker 8: I'm very I'm very exhausted by the white person who
Speaker 8: doesn't understand how America works, right, or the man who
Speaker 8: doesn't understand while women are going through stop it. Quit
Speaker 8: playing in my face. If you're playing with me, at
Speaker 8: least it'd be a board and dice out. Stop playing
Speaker 8: with me. There's no video game console on right now,
Speaker 8: sitting in the living room meeting nachos, So stop playing
Speaker 8: with me, you understand. So I'm just like one. America
Speaker 8: is not about freedom. America's about money. The day that
Speaker 8: everybody can acknowledge that America is a business, it started
Speaker 8: as colonialism and conalization.
Speaker 4: Was a business.
Speaker 8: The colonies were a business. So ASCU people was like,
Speaker 8: you know what they be not being real nice to
Speaker 8: us in England, We might want to go somewhere else.
Speaker 8: That was a couple folks on a couple of boats.
Speaker 8: The rest of these bastards, the entire Western hemisphere was
Speaker 8: a business.
Speaker 4: Right that the British and.
Speaker 8: The Spanish took over because the fact that Americans do
Speaker 8: not acknowledge that most of the countries below US speak
Speaker 8: Spanish is insane.
Speaker 4: Or even know what country. Most people don't even know
Speaker 4: what North America is.
Speaker 8: You know, Mexico's in Central America.
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
Speaker 8: You never heard of NATO, That's what you just told me.
Speaker 8: So it's America is a business. Stop looking for freedom
Speaker 8: and start paying attention to the money. All of this
Speaker 8: has always been about money. America does not care about
Speaker 8: your freedom. All of the freedom shit is a smoke screen,
Speaker 8: is a lie. That's what The reason that you were
Speaker 8: able to get the Civil Rights Act to pass is
Speaker 8: one Kennedy was assassinated two. Montgomery bus boycott took eighteen months.
Speaker 8: It wasn't a couple of days that they wasn't on
Speaker 8: the bus. Was eighteen months. And black women organize cabs
Speaker 8: and cars to get everybody to work. And what it
Speaker 8: did was it almost bankrupted the city of Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 8: That's why desegregation happened because oftting of businesses. Right, It
Speaker 8: wasn't because the white people was like, we should probably
Speaker 8: get these negroes from rights. No, it's you realize how
Speaker 8: we impacted an entire city's economy, in multiple cities economies
Speaker 8: during the Civil rights movement, and they were like, Yo,
Speaker 8: these negroes messing up our business. Give them some rights
Speaker 8: or they're going to destroy us, right with just the
Speaker 8: money of it. No one felt no. It's like, so
Speaker 8: a white man looked at another white man and said,
Speaker 8: let's give these negroes rights.
Speaker 2: Right, had nothing to do.
Speaker 8: They weren't treated better, right, You cannot just get the
Speaker 8: bland food you was fighting to eat. So I'm very
Speaker 8: confused about what we think is happening right now, and
Speaker 8: I don't know why we're not acting like that. This
Speaker 8: is what it is. So, yeah, the Republican Party wants
Speaker 8: to take all this money to back Trump. All they're
Speaker 8: going to do is bankrupt themselves because all they want
Speaker 8: to do. Trump is just revenge for Obama. That's all
Speaker 8: he is. Because that's why people foam at the mouth
Speaker 8: and anger and act with Trump the way that they act,
Speaker 8: just because he says what he needs to be said.
Speaker 8: We're going to drain the swamp and get those fat cats.
Speaker 8: I'm like, why are so many cats in a swamp?
Speaker 2: You sound crazy? They're like cats. They don't want to listen.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 8: I remember Swat Cats was an interesting cartoon. Sam cats
Speaker 8: didn't exist. They don't do that.
Speaker 4: Samurai Pizza Cats another one, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: The nineties was a great time for pizza.
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, that teenage mutant Ninja turtle pizza that was
Speaker 1: just like the the cheese on the top was like
Speaker 1: one solid liquid, like non Newtonian substance that just like
Speaker 1: kind of stretched you just fell off the dough.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's really how they made kids read books,
Speaker 8: is what happened. Yeah, a pizza, a personal pan pizza, right,
Speaker 8: just truly, just the open faced, grilled cheese.
Speaker 4: Sandwich with a little bit of tomato sauce, with a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 8: Of tomato sauce is really how they got kids to
Speaker 8: read in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, came through Carmen.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 9: This is more fun?
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 8: I love love, love love. Let's go back.
Speaker 2: Capital punishment.
Speaker 9: And they hold me up. Don't get me mad?
Speaker 1: Now? Oh wow, you.
Speaker 9: Know this is that mor Moss fun. Okay, so on
Speaker 9: shows I love because of course I'm a writer too,
Speaker 9: but I love mash up words. I don't like. I'm
Speaker 9: not talking about those TikTok kind of stuff like riz
Speaker 9: and so I'm talking about mash up boards. Because right now,
Speaker 9: the word that I can't get out of my head,
Speaker 9: which I love so much is corpsical. Is anyone watching
Speaker 9: Detective It is the idea and I and I come
Speaker 9: across a couple more of these words, and I just
Speaker 9: love they make me so happy. Corpsical like the power
Speaker 9: to be able to create a ward that instantly makes
Speaker 9: your brain go.
Speaker 1: Corpse know exactly what that is.
Speaker 9: And you know exactly what it is, and it's a
Speaker 9: nonsense word. We can't by the way, I love the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you love true texts.
Speaker 10: That's a great underrated That's that's one of honestly my
Speaker 10: favorite underrated It's that's such a good one because it's
Speaker 10: something that you appreciate subconsciously. But then hearing you say that,
Speaker 10: I want to I want to keep an eye out
Speaker 10: for more more corpsicle type words.
Speaker 9: It's so fun. And then every time I hear crpsicle,
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, I just love it.
Speaker 1: By the way, So so that you know where I'm at,
Speaker 1: I tried to write corpsicle. I wasn't quite sure how
Speaker 1: to pronounce how to spell it, and my autocorrect change
Speaker 1: it to crop circle.
Speaker 9: So you know what, it's another fantastical thing.
Speaker 2: You love science.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: I love science. Is that what you said? Yes?
Speaker 1: I love science.
Speaker 10: Science signs the m Night Shammealin movie signs that.
Speaker 1: And see class that's I think that's in another M
Speaker 1: Night Shyamalan movie where Mark Wahlberg is a science teacher
Speaker 1: and he's like where just written on the board is like,
Speaker 1: where'd the bees go?
Speaker 2: Oh, wasn't that?
Speaker 9: That wasn't science? Which one was that one?
Speaker 2: That? Oh my god? What about the bees?
Speaker 1: Though? Bro?
Speaker 2: That don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. Don't tell us
Speaker 2: where the.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good one.
Speaker 1: True Detective Season four or yeah, season four has one
Speaker 1: of the most That corpsicle is the corp cycle to
Speaker 1: end all corpsicles.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's a bunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real and if you.
Speaker 9: Like this season, look at me. I'm not doing promo
Speaker 9: for her, but I do adore her. The director of
Speaker 9: Isa Lopez right from Mexico. She has her horror movie
Speaker 9: Tigers Are Not Afraid was beautiful and fresh. You know,
Speaker 9: when you see a movie, it's not like you're not like, wow,
Speaker 9: that was so great and epica.
Speaker 8: But but when you see it and.
Speaker 9: You go, okay, that's new. Yeah, Like how hard is
Speaker 9: it to see to watch something today and be like, Okay,
Speaker 9: that's that's new. I haven't seen that. That's her and
Speaker 9: it is brilliant. So I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: That she produced a corpsicle. Yeah, if you watch.
Speaker 9: That movie, you can see you're like, this lady's brain
Speaker 9: is different. Yeah, Miliki.
Speaker 10: Oh that only has a ninety seven percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 6: That's all it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so h happy for her my movies to watch
Speaker 2: list me too, mm hmm so good.
Speaker 9: So good by the way, ethel LOVEO lo'veo. Okay, moving on.
Speaker 1: She's a big fan, as are all great brilliant you know,
Speaker 1: directors who think different. They are huge fans of the
Speaker 1: Davies iist and will get fits fits. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and come back and well run
Speaker 1: through news stories.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Okay, and we're back, and just briefly, John Stewart came
Speaker 1: did his like first return. I didn't watch it. I
Speaker 1: writer Jam watched it was like, this is pretty I was.
Speaker 1: He was dreading it and thought it was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: Most of his opening segment was devoted to the ages
Speaker 1: of both presidential candidates, and therein lies the problem. People
Speaker 1: were like, what the fuck, dude, You're only supposed to
Speaker 1: talk about Republicans. Bro. He focused on as did we yesterday?
Speaker 1: We you know, Biden's slip up where he had called
Speaker 1: the press conference to be like I'm not you think
Speaker 1: I'm old and came on and was like throwing sick
Speaker 1: burns at Fox News and was like real revved up
Speaker 1: and was like leaving the field of play, having like
Speaker 1: done what he came to do. And then someone asked
Speaker 1: him a question about Israel, and he like went back
Speaker 1: to the podium and confused Mexico and Egypt, and people
Speaker 1: were like, oh, buddy, you were so close. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I mean he he also so he pointed out Biden's
Speaker 1: slip ups. He also said that Trump's statements during his
Speaker 1: rallies weren't a wellness check, like he was talking about
Speaker 1: both of them, but people were pissed. I think my
Speaker 1: favorite joke from it is that he took the clip
Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris being like, I assure you in closed
Speaker 1: door meetings, Biden is smart and on his game and.
Speaker 2: On top of it.
Speaker 1: And he was like, did anyone dad, Like that would
Speaker 1: be good to show to people. But anyways, people like
Speaker 1: Keith Alberman, who we were all waiting to hear what Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all knew Keith Alberman was still alive and we're
Speaker 1: waiting to hear what he thought on anything. But he
Speaker 1: came out and was like, just both sides as fraud.
Speaker 1: He's mad. Rolling Stone referred to John Stewart's both sides
Speaker 1: are equally bad approach, which doesn't seem like exactly what
Speaker 1: he's saying. I think you can be frustrated that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't seem to be the best candidate, specifically because
Speaker 1: Trump is such a terrifying prospect, which kind of is
Speaker 1: where I'm sitting at the moment. So yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 1: are you guys feeling feeling good about our options?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Weirdly, Yeah, it's like this is like kind of the
Speaker 7: first time I was like, because I feel like the
Speaker 7: previous incarnation of Daily Show John Stewart would not really
Speaker 7: ever like actually criticize is like the kind of our
Speaker 7: setter right Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: So like this feels like good ish. Actually I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: Im more in line with where I think people's mind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that, you know, I mean, ultimately, John
Speaker 6: Stewart's a comedian and his jobs be funny, but he's
Speaker 6: also put himself in this really interesting media criticism and
Speaker 6: analys role. Yeah, jokes to criticize the media. And you know,
Speaker 6: I think that Biden and Trump are the presidential candidates
Speaker 6: who look and sound old as fuck. Don't get mad
Speaker 6: at John Stewart for pointing it out, like you know,
Speaker 6: get mad at Biden's campaign team for letting me be
Speaker 6: presented in that way.
Speaker 1: Or get excited about R. FK. Junior, who we are
Speaker 1: on this podcast.
Speaker 7: If you if you read between the lines, you could
Speaker 7: really tell which direction of this pot is which where
Speaker 7: Jack is going slightly read between anti vacs really really,
Speaker 7: I have put COVID in scare quotes multiple time and
Speaker 7: did say I'm excited about our kid Junior.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're picking up the tiny little
Speaker 1: bread cone from red Comb, that's what when I'm out
Speaker 1: on macros and I'm so excited.
Speaker 6: Look, do I love RFK Junior because he probably knows
Speaker 6: what a macro is?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Is that what I based my presidential candidate votes on?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: Also, yeah, I will say, Actually, Joejo, I think he
Speaker 7: just said I I don't know if I agree that. Like,
Speaker 7: in the job of host of the Daily Show, John
Speaker 7: Stewart is a comedian, well.
Speaker 6: Okay, well it's on Comedy Central. It's like, yeah, theoretically
Speaker 6: he's supposed to be doing I know.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 7: I just think it's like, I don't think the show
Speaker 7: would do well if he was just doing jokes. Like
Speaker 7: most of the bits that do well with their audience are,
Speaker 7: like I think, unfortunately, not jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It is so weird, Like, I, you know, I went
Speaker 6: to school for journalism and I graduated from like the
Speaker 6: Edward Armureau College Communication, and it's like, so, I like,
Speaker 6: I really respect journalism. And it's so weird to me
Speaker 6: that he's kind of found himself John Stewart in this
Speaker 6: position where he's kind of one of the most respected
Speaker 6: journalists in the country, and he's like he's not a journalist.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and there's the problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's like it's sort of a and like
Speaker 6: he's he's the person where you know, I think on
Speaker 6: his on his Apple TV show, there was this expectation
Speaker 6: of like finally he's gonna do hard hitting interviews, and
Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, it's we're putting so much on John
Speaker 6: Stuart's shoulders.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, well really yeah, it's that part is the
Speaker 7: biggest barber to me.
Speaker 2: I'm just like this, this is just none of this
Speaker 2: should exist in this way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we should have good like television journalism should be better,
Speaker 6: like what And part of the problem is just like
Speaker 6: it's like the twenty four hour news cycle, there is
Speaker 6: just this need to fill time with opinion more than
Speaker 6: like actual news. And it's like if you watch, like
Speaker 6: you know, just any of the twenty four hour news channels,
Speaker 6: it's like ninety percent of their programming is just like
Speaker 6: a panel of like experts or whatever just kind of
Speaker 6: riffing on what they're hearing about, as opposed to like
Speaker 6: actual like research the thing journalism, and uh yeah, I
Speaker 6: don't know. It's like it's I'm excited that John Stewart's back,
Speaker 6: like I thought he did, you know, a good job,
Speaker 6: and it's first episode back, but it is such a
Speaker 6: bummer that like there is this feeling of like, oh,
Speaker 6: finally real news can come back on Comedy Central.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I didn't realize Comedy Central was still a channel, to.
Speaker 2: Be honest, I did. I legitimately.
Speaker 7: Also was like I was like, I guess I would
Speaker 7: have heard had Daily Show been canceled, But the big
Speaker 7: announcement that he was coming back, I was like, oh god.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it was it was a weird, like, you know,
Speaker 6: it was this weird feeling of like, you know, ultimately,
Speaker 6: I'm a big proponent of like giving new people a
Speaker 6: shot and you know, bringing in like you know, psc
Speaker 6: voices or words for marginalized communities to hold those positions.
Speaker 6: But like, I don't know, I do think that John's
Speaker 6: where like he like he's basically he said that he's
Speaker 6: only going to come back until I think the election.
Speaker 6: So it does feel like he's kind of back to
Speaker 6: like a really specific purpose and he's not going to
Speaker 6: stick around forever. And a lot of his jokes even
Speaker 6: were just like I'm in my sixties. It's weird, I'm back,
Speaker 6: Like yeah, so he gets it right.
Speaker 1: Well, It'll be interesting to see what he has to
Speaker 1: say in his next appearance, because uh, He's not going
Speaker 1: to have Joe Biden to beat up on for being old.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much, because Joe Biden has proven
Speaker 1: he young. He joined TikTok. He's his campaign has entered.
Speaker 1: It's Steve Buscemi holding a skateboard phase and they joined TikTok.
Speaker 1: He posted a video on Super Bowl Sunday answering questions
Speaker 1: that included which team he was rooting for and which
Speaker 1: candidate he supports for president, which feels like they were
Speaker 1: trying to like fuck him up. His grant kids were
Speaker 1: trying to confuse him. But the video was posted along
Speaker 1: with the message lowell, hey guys, which is just completely
Speaker 1: impossible to imagine Joe Biden ever saying.
Speaker 6: Do you think that there was an unused take on
Speaker 6: that who are you gonna vote for?
Speaker 2: For President? Biden and Trump question re said.
Speaker 6: Trump, fuck.
Speaker 1: Guys, guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a shooter. I think it's really funny. How like,
Speaker 6: I feel like the Biden campaign has gone through the
Speaker 6: process of I think every stand up comedian of like, oh,
Speaker 6: I'm not going to start a TikTok. TikTok's dumb, and
Speaker 6: then after a couple of years, maybe I will start
Speaker 6: a TikTok.
Speaker 1: Yes, like he for years has been repeatedly stating he
Speaker 1: would not be joining TikTok during the campaign, which is
Speaker 1: just like such a funny statement to make in the
Speaker 1: first place, that like he felt the need to be like, no, guys,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I'm not gonna start. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna doin TikTok.
Speaker 2: I know what everybody's waiting for.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'd never that thought never crossed my mind.
Speaker 2: Oh god, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta say one of my favorite TikTok formats
Speaker 6: is just stuff getting smashed. Like there's this video of
Speaker 6: like two toilets hanging from ropes swung at each other
Speaker 6: like pendulums and they hit each other explode. If the
Speaker 6: Biden campaign leaned into that type of TikTok idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean just on the like things from
Speaker 1: the White House getting like which one's going to survive.
Speaker 6: It's like the Lincoln desk and the statue of Andrew Jackson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to imagine you.
Speaker 7: Got has to be pissed about this happening, because this
Speaker 7: is like they're they're cooling, their app is done, Like
Speaker 7: this is just the now we're just counted down the
Speaker 7: days to when TikTok is over right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It also doesn't help that if you watch the video,
Speaker 6: it looks like Joe Biden's in a hospital waiting room.
Speaker 1: It really does. Where the fuck is he? That's a
Speaker 1: really good point. Like the art on the walls is
Speaker 1: in the last in the waiting room of the last hospital.
Speaker 1: Is that like gets straight up is a hospital waiting room?
Speaker 1: He's wearing old guy khakis.
Speaker 7: Do you know what I I would actually bet it is,
Speaker 7: which probably has the safe decor as a hospital waiting room.
Speaker 7: Is like a boomer internet consultancy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think that's I think that that's that
Speaker 6: to me is a little bit of the issue with
Speaker 6: like I totally get you know, Biden starting a TikTok. Yeah,
Speaker 6: there's you know, huge zoomer audience there, Like it makes sense.
Speaker 6: But I think that this really feels like a TikTok
Speaker 6: that was like pitched by a twenty year old to
Speaker 6: like a boomer social media executive and like they tried
Speaker 6: to kind of meet in the middle, and it just
Speaker 6: like does it just feels like this weird TikTok uncanny valley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, having him show up with the where wall. Hey guys,
Speaker 1: is so funny to me for some reason. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like is that him talking him being like, well, hey guys,
Speaker 1: I'm so random, right, Yeah, I'm so random?
Speaker 4: Blurg.
Speaker 7: Also, I mean, like, are you really going to sign
Speaker 7: on to the fucking social media network that's mostly right
Speaker 7: now known for calling you a war criminal? Like I
Speaker 7: think you gave up on the zoomer vote a while ago, dog,
Speaker 7: and yeah, this is gonna this is not going to
Speaker 7: bridge that gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be all that red in
Speaker 1: on the war criminal stuff, because he did following the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl drop that meme, that dank Brandon dark Brandon
Speaker 1: meme on our ass where he was like just like
Speaker 1: we drew it up with a picture of him, you know,
Speaker 1: dark Brandon eyes glowing. And unfortunately it was also after
Speaker 1: Israeli airstrikes reportedly target getting houses and mosques killed dozens
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, wow, real dark dark Brandon.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so that is how he So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it's just perfect time.
Speaker 2: We didn't have to drag this into podcasts at least
Speaker 2: fun time.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's it is just wild, like this
Speaker 1: attempt to join in the fun, like make his campaign
Speaker 1: fun at this time, Like it's just I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be as easy as they're hoping. Yeah, would.
Speaker 6: I think that's so much of what does well on
Speaker 6: social media. It's just like, you know, you need to
Speaker 6: be genuine, you need to feel like you're real in
Speaker 6: some way. And it feels like the Biden campaign isn't
Speaker 6: this weird kind of trying to have their keyk and
Speaker 6: eat it too middle ground where they're trying to kind
Speaker 6: of memify and freshen up Biden, But when it gets
Speaker 6: down to it, he's still an eighty two year old politician. Sure,
Speaker 6: And you know it just comes across as very like, hey, look, everybody,
Speaker 6: Grandpa's rapping, Like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it would genuinely be a thousand times
Speaker 7: better if he was just wrapping, just rapp, dude, wrapping.
Speaker 6: I'm the president and I'm here to say yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. So in twenty twenty, the campaign, some
Speaker 1: say sweatily campaigned and animal crossing and through celebrities on
Speaker 1: cameo U and people are comparing that to this. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say, twenty twenty, let me think who
Speaker 1: won that election. Who won that election? Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: he won. They don't know if animals crossing saved us
Speaker 1: from four more years of Trump.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry, you're the character of Jack O'Brien says
Speaker 7: Trump won that election.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's right, I remember.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you said again, yeah, yeah, when you said
Speaker 6: Biden won the election, you were definitely doing the jack
Speaker 6: off like yeah quotes, oh yeah, won the election.
Speaker 1: Every by the way, every time I say president Biden,
Speaker 1: and I think the jack off ham mooscher motion is
Speaker 1: implied president.
Speaker 2: But that's that's where me and the let's go Brandon
Speaker 2: people really intersect.
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, I also think that.
Speaker 2: For the opposite reasons. But I do think that.
Speaker 6: That is also so funny to me that like Let's
Speaker 6: go Brandon was you know, I feel like treated as
Speaker 6: this like epic liberal dunk when it's like I also
Speaker 6: think Joe Biden's not great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Also, there was a song that played on the radio
Speaker 7: called fuck Donald Trump. So take this Ned Flanders, bullshit
Speaker 7: my face, Like what are you talking about? That's your
Speaker 7: old good one, guys.
Speaker 1: Let's go on. And it's like actually a reference to
Speaker 1: someone saying fuck Biden.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so you're you're okay with cursing in public.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's also people are pointing out
Speaker 1: there's a whole quite of like the US government is
Speaker 1: really politicizing TikTok and like the like whether it should
Speaker 1: be allowed and whether it's a security risk. And he
Speaker 1: like straight up banned most federal government devices from using
Speaker 1: TikTok in twenty twenty two due to bipartisan security concerns.
Speaker 7: So do you think the Biden account password is the
Speaker 7: same as like his Skiff password, Like he the band
Speaker 7: could only memorize so many passwords. Yeah, I just think
Speaker 7: there's a high chance it's just Joe Biden in all lowercase.
Speaker 1: But nobody would ever think to put it all lowercase jack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like to security around his I guess
Speaker 1: I would say it would be a nightmare if he
Speaker 1: actually used technology himself.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: The thing that his administration is saying is that actually
Speaker 1: this is like, we use a device that is only
Speaker 1: for posting on Joe Biden's TikTok. So we're good here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's locked in like a glass case.
Speaker 7: Uh, the sandbox, firewalled TikTok Presidential TikTok machine.
Speaker 6: Back to the John Stewart Daily Show thing. Something that
Speaker 6: I do appreciate about what he was saying is like
Speaker 6: he was basically saying, you know exactly you brought it
Speaker 6: up earlier of like, oh, if he's really energetic in meeting,
Speaker 6: show us that like he's giving advice to the Biden campaign. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And it's like that feels like good. You know, it's
Speaker 6: like both presidential candidates are old as fuck, Like you know,
Speaker 6: I totally get it, but it's like, at least let's
Speaker 6: pretend that they're like still active, you know, like that's
Speaker 6: your I feel like that's your job is like you know,
Speaker 6: a PR person or a press person or you know,
Speaker 6: a media person or whatever, is to like at least
Speaker 6: make the messaging healpoble so that I don't have to
Speaker 6: pretend that he's well with it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I go.
Speaker 2: The other side of this, though, is like, you know,
Speaker 2: we live through puppet Ronald Reagan dementia in office.
Speaker 7: We just go full warhammer forty K with this stuff,
Speaker 7: and either of these two guys, we just acknowledge that
Speaker 7: it's a cadre of advisors and you know whatever who's
Speaker 7: doing stuff and we just put them on a fucking
Speaker 7: golden throne when they win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Make sure they eat some slim gyms so they're
Speaker 1: well preserved.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, crackling with psychic energy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you when you become president, you're just America's
Speaker 6: trophy for four years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, you should be put inside of
Speaker 7: the Lincoln Monument.
Speaker 6: Wait on that giant, big stone chair.
Speaker 7: No, no, inside of it, Like you're sitting in the
Speaker 7: same way, but you're just sort of like each each
Speaker 7: one is one layer smaller inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like snoke, like.
Speaker 2: A nesting doll. But presidents. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Guess that the Lincoln Monument is a mech's I.
Speaker 6: Thought you were proposing that once you stop being president,
Speaker 6: they have to hollow you out and put the new
Speaker 6: president inside.
Speaker 1: Oh, you just have to elect smaller and smaller each
Speaker 1: subsequent time.
Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world if we do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think a big part of our problem is
Speaker 1: that the thing you're describing is basically the monarchy in
Speaker 1: the UK. And they realized a long time ago that
Speaker 1: monarchs shouldn't have power, and like that is just like
Speaker 1: you go sit somewhere on a fancy chair and everyone
Speaker 1: is just like, oh, she's taking the dogs for a
Speaker 1: walk today, how nice. And then they're like unglamorous people
Speaker 1: nobody really gives a shit about who are actually being
Speaker 1: hired and fired from the job of, you know, running
Speaker 1: the country. And in America, it's still the same fucking
Speaker 1: person that all the all the royalty and all the
Speaker 1: ship giving is tied up with the same person who
Speaker 1: actually is supposed to have the job, and that's unhealthy.
Speaker 7: I would argue, Yeah, it's roll bad at word, we're
Speaker 7: living through it.
Speaker 2: We're living through inequences for these people.
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey or in love. Everything's great, Yes.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't see what everybody's complaining about Travis
Speaker 1: and Taylor. Congratulations to everyone on living through it. It's
Speaker 1: a bad it's bad bad, it's bad. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like I do feel like everybody should just acknowledge end
Speaker 1: of day, Hey, we made it through another one, fucking
Speaker 1: like the way you do and like you know, recovery
Speaker 1: programs where you're like day at a time, this ship
Speaker 1: was hard.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I thought you were talking about like
Speaker 2: being in like Trench Warship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that too, Yeah, I guess the same vibe.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 6: So we're still talking about Taylor Swift, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about how I get through the period like
Speaker 1: after she announces a new album and before the album
Speaker 1: actually dropped. Yeah, it's just like, well, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: just get out of bed and act like this is
Speaker 1: a normal day. Sure, ridiculous, fucking ridiculous. Andrew, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about important things like Madam Webb.
Speaker 2: Will be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and people need to go check out
Speaker 1: cool people who did cool stuff both of your podcasts.
Speaker 1: But there are so many great episodes of cool people
Speaker 1: who did cool stuff. There's the recent one about the
Speaker 1: Collective and by maur Germany, who like, as Nazism is
Speaker 1: rising up and you know, the economy is collapsing around them,
Speaker 1: they collectively like deliver one million illegal abortions a year
Speaker 1: as birth control as being like just so incredible and badass.
Speaker 1: And but I did want to talk about this story
Speaker 1: about the invention of the paramedics because it's a group
Speaker 1: of people, a community suffering under severe systemic racism in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they come together and become the first paramedics
Speaker 1: in the history of America, maybe the world. They are
Speaker 1: the reason we have paramedics today. Like all the life
Speaker 1: saving care we expect to show up in an ambulance
Speaker 1: started with them, and it was pretty It was like
Speaker 1: I would have guessed so much longer ago, but it
Speaker 1: was like nineteen sixty eight. Yeah, yeah, and like I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's another example I've talked before about how
Speaker 1: there are two types of inventions. There's like the iPhone,
Speaker 1: which is like something that is invented through sheer, like
Speaker 1: tyranny of will, like years before the world might be
Speaker 1: ready for it, and it's like in in front of
Speaker 1: And then there are the inventions that like the world
Speaker 1: is repeatedly calling out for and like just people just
Speaker 1: keep fucking fucking it up. Like the screwdriver was invented
Speaker 1: after the screw so they were just like yeah, they
Speaker 1: like bears the screw in a chisel. They were just
Speaker 1: like whatever they said on hand, They're like, I guess
Speaker 1: this coin can kind of get it in there. And
Speaker 1: took them like fucking decades to invent the screwdriver. But
Speaker 1: the paramedics. Seems like just listening to you, like tell
Speaker 1: the story of you know it starts. You started with
Speaker 1: like people drunk driving ambulances around the Civil War.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, wait, so what what did it look like?
Speaker 5: Because I haven't listened to this episode. So what we
Speaker 5: were just just pulling up to the basically to the
Speaker 5: hospital before, like just some in the back of the car.
Speaker 2: Its like get them to the hospital.
Speaker 3: So there would be people who would go around. There
Speaker 3: be someone you could call and they would send an ambulance,
Speaker 3: and the ambulance would not be an ambulance. They would
Speaker 3: send a car. And it was different plate it was
Speaker 3: different in different places. There was no central idea of
Speaker 3: how to do it. A lot of times it was cops,
Speaker 3: and cops don't always treat different people the same. Wait,
Speaker 3: it was I've heard of this, I've heard of this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy, I know, don't worry. It was a long
Speaker 3: time ago. And then also funeral homes were a big one.
Speaker 3: The funeral homes had a hearse and you could put
Speaker 3: a person in a hearse, so you you're like you're
Speaker 3: trying not to die of a heart attack and our
Speaker 3: hearse shows up and they're literally like there's like pedals
Speaker 3: left over from the last person, and it was just
Speaker 3: it was private services, and the other one was firefighters,
Speaker 3: and then the other one was just like purely private
Speaker 3: services where there's someone in your neighborhood you call and
Speaker 3: like John will come over and drive you to the hospital. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's the hero of the story, and so yeah, they
Speaker 3: just this completely blew my mind too. Like if you
Speaker 3: had asked me when the paramedics were invented, I would
Speaker 3: have been like Victorian era and it was a little
Speaker 3: bit late that it took that long or literally this
Speaker 3: has always happened, and people used to do it with litters,
Speaker 3: you know, where you like carry the person or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know a picture like somebody coming out and
Speaker 1: like plugging a fire bellows into your mouth and like yeah.
Speaker 3: Well that was the other thing is that CPR is
Speaker 3: a recent invention, is the other And they were invented
Speaker 3: by by the same guy UNIV. But yeah, the thing
Speaker 3: that paramedics changed was that the person who comes to
Speaker 3: drive you the hospital performs care for you there on
Speaker 3: the street. And there was a while where people weren't
Speaker 3: into it. People were scared, especially because the first paramedic
Speaker 3: team was all black, and so at first they were
Speaker 3: in an all black neighborhood of in Pittsburgh, and it
Speaker 3: was like fine. And then eventually, like the white people
Speaker 3: in the surrounding neighborhoods were like, we'd rather paramedics came
Speaker 3: than cops. We keep dying just so yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: so then black people will come. But then random white
Speaker 3: racist would be like, no, please, I'd rather die of
Speaker 3: this heart attack. Just get me to the hospital, all right,
Speaker 3: no problems, all right. So now, and that's the weirdest
Speaker 3: thing about like reading about the medical profession is that
Speaker 3: that's not the attitude that even like like black doctors
Speaker 3: and black paramedics who are dealing with racist patients are like,
Speaker 3: and then we just have to do it anyway. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all are made of better stuff than me.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I'll wait.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 1: You know, so an important person has a heart attack
Speaker 1: on stage and a nurse goes and is delivering like
Speaker 1: CPR life saving me, and then the cops, who are
Speaker 1: the authority at this time in like getting somebody to
Speaker 1: the hospital, kick her ass out off stage and then
Speaker 1: drag this person of the hospital, I think, say they
Speaker 1: kicked her ass.
Speaker 2: A white nur. It was a white So.
Speaker 1: Wantn't you go bake a pie lady exactly? And they
Speaker 1: killed this guy by you know, because they don't know
Speaker 1: shit about them.
Speaker 2: They're interrupting the intervention, basically.
Speaker 1: Interrupting the CPR, and so this like, people are pissed.
Speaker 1: They killed a major like political figure, basically the head
Speaker 1: of Baltimore's Democratic Party at Pitty Pittsburgh Democratic Party at
Speaker 1: the time, and so yeah, yeah, so people are pissed,
Speaker 1: and they bring in this guy who had just kind
Speaker 1: of innovated CPR and was like his theory was that
Speaker 1: you could teach everyday people to do this thing that
Speaker 1: would keep people alive for a long time, much longer
Speaker 1: than they were living before. And so they trained regular
Speaker 1: people to be the paramedics, like specifically, not cops or
Speaker 1: I guess they were open to cops, and the cops
Speaker 1: were like, ah, fuck, this that's a training.
Speaker 2: We don't do this.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you know, we don't do training. But what so
Speaker 1: why do you think they went in that direction to
Speaker 1: like train people who weren't like not being like we're
Speaker 1: a traveling band of doctors. Was it just like doctors
Speaker 1: were in short supply.
Speaker 3: It was a couple different things. One is that they
Speaker 3: had this idea for this job paramedics, and they were like,
Speaker 3: who can we get to do this job? Where it
Speaker 3: is going to take? Like I don't remember the number
Speaker 3: of hours, an awful lot of hours of training, like
Speaker 3: an awfully long intensive thing. We have no idea how
Speaker 3: financially feasible it will be. We have no idea whether
Speaker 3: or not this job will exist when you finish all
Speaker 3: of this training. Who was willing to do that?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so it was not the doctors. And then also yeah,
Speaker 3: like the I'm absolute shit remembering names as soon as
Speaker 3: I've moved on to the next episode. I remember the
Speaker 3: story arcs and things. Sure I can't remember the name
Speaker 3: of the CPR guy, but he's white, the stanger. Oh
Speaker 3: that sounds right, but I really don't remember. I remember
Speaker 3: a lot about his backstory. Grew up in the Nazi
Speaker 3: controlled asilahoven.
Speaker 4: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: And so he also his thing is believing that we
Speaker 3: need to stop some of the gatekeeping around medical stuff.
Speaker 3: We still need to train people, and people need to
Speaker 3: be highly trained. But he was like, I believe we
Speaker 3: can train regular people. So that was like partly his
Speaker 3: crusade around it. It was partly the police unions were
Speaker 3: blocking cops getting training, and it was partly that the
Speaker 3: group that stepped up in order to say, hey, we're
Speaker 3: going to do this was a not really a mutual
Speaker 3: aid group, but a black empowerment group that taught entrepreneurship
Speaker 3: within this neighborhood and and did like stuff like drive
Speaker 3: around the food van and sell food out of the
Speaker 3: back to break the food desert. And they were like, well,
Speaker 3: we can tear it. We have some organizational ideas, and
Speaker 3: so it was coming out of the civil rights movement also,
Speaker 3: so it was kind of specific parts of black civil
Speaker 3: rights stuff, meeting hey, how do we destroy the gatekeeping
Speaker 3: of the medical industry, and just like and then even
Speaker 3: then they had trouble getting people to come to these trainings, right,
Speaker 3: and so they were like kind of just rounding people
Speaker 3: up on the street. So the first people, the first paramedics,
Speaker 3: were not just black folks who were impoverished systemically from
Speaker 3: that reason, but it was also a lot of felons.
Speaker 3: It was some people who didn't have any like stable
Speaker 3: places to live, a lot of people who are dealing
Speaker 3: with unemployment, vets with serious PTSD coming back from the
Speaker 3: Vietnam War. It was like it was like the fuck ups,
Speaker 3: you know, and they were like, well, we're not the
Speaker 3: fuck ups. We're actually really awesome and are doing all
Speaker 3: this amazing work, which is part of why it would
Speaker 3: make such a fucking killer movie. And then there was
Speaker 3: even the part like even at one point, in order
Speaker 3: to get city funding, they were like, sorry, you need
Speaker 3: to have a white person, and so they were like, like,
Speaker 3: just one, and so they found a guy who had
Speaker 3: been the token white soldier in a black unit in
Speaker 3: Vietnam and we're like, hey, can you be our token
Speaker 3: white person. He was like sick, Yeah, no, totally, that's fine.
Speaker 4: Oh hell.
Speaker 3: And so you even have, you know, from a Hollywood
Speaker 3: point of view where you need that, they even have that.
Speaker 3: So it's a perfect movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, you have your new trope, the magical
Speaker 5: white guy. But he just like stays in the bag
Speaker 5: and doesn't do shit. Yeah, it's like it's like, what
Speaker 5: does he do? It's just amazing his whiteness, just even
Speaker 5: passively off to the side the doors that it opens.
Speaker 1: This is also something that we saw when we were
Speaker 1: talking about alternatives to policing and like this programming Eugene,
Speaker 1: Oregon that has been going since I think the early eighties.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's called like creeps or something like that.
Speaker 1: They give it the worst acronym possible. But it's like
Speaker 1: if if you need to call someone for help but
Speaker 1: you don't wants the police showing up with a gun,
Speaker 1: you have this alternative and like I remember reading a
Speaker 1: profile and the things that they're solving are just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, this drunk guy is like having a
Speaker 1: fight with.
Speaker 5: His partners and me. It's called what is it cahots cahoots?
Speaker 5: Isn't it cahoots?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It might.
Speaker 1: I think it had a different name for un but
Speaker 1: I don't it creeps. As Nixon's like committee to re
Speaker 1: elect the president, it was something like more sinister though,
Speaker 1: but anyways, like they would just like give somebody a ride,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like really like community based, like oh,
Speaker 1: I actually know that guy, or I know his cousin.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have his cousin come give him a ride,
Speaker 1: and like you end up seeing this is what is
Speaker 1: useful about the Freedom House people being the people who
Speaker 1: are serving this community is like you know, I think
Speaker 1: Margaret in the episode you talked about if one's odeing,
Speaker 1: they probably know who dealt them those drugs and can
Speaker 1: like go talk to that dealer and like find out
Speaker 1: what they took. You know, it's like they are plugged
Speaker 1: into the community. So you're just like paying for somebody
Speaker 1: within the community who knows people to go in and
Speaker 1: do the very basic, you know, work of also incredibly
Speaker 1: complicated and important work of like life saving technology or
Speaker 1: life saving medical care, but also just having that context
Speaker 1: and it being someone that like people are comfortable with
Speaker 1: and not somebody who's pointing a gun at you. It
Speaker 1: is so important and just like feels like this could
Speaker 1: be spread applied to like so many other places, right
Speaker 1: like in the modern world where we're seeing it, where
Speaker 1: we still have this crisis of the place to call
Speaker 1: when somebody's having mental health crisis or you know a
Speaker 1: lot of different problems is the fucking police.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, no, I mean, it just makes
Speaker 3: sense to me, and especially when a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: that puts people in dangerous criminalized, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: when when you're dealing with someone who hasn't who's odeane.
Speaker 3: Oh and then just to throw in that also the
Speaker 3: same guy whose name I can't remember, was I think
Speaker 3: the first person to administer narkan or like, yeah, use
Speaker 3: narcan not just as a way to pull people out
Speaker 3: of anesesia, but also to pull people out of overdosing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like if you're if someone's overdosing, you call
Speaker 3: the cops. You don't know whether you say that person's
Speaker 3: life or.
Speaker 2: Killed them, right, is it? Doctor Peter Saphar Again, I.
Speaker 3: Literally it's just names go in and out of my head.
Speaker 2: It's awful.
Speaker 3: I need to.
Speaker 5: Have a script in front of me in order or
Speaker 5: like looking and I'm like there, it's like there's like
Speaker 5: three doctors that made invented CP like there were or
Speaker 5: in Jude.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's Peter Saffhar.
Speaker 1: He born in Vienna, Austria, and yeah, yeah ended up
Speaker 1: becoming the yeah did and he created CPR.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he did all this like tricksy stuff to
Speaker 3: avoid serving in the Nazi army.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He like like also almost killed himself with medical issues
Speaker 3: in order to be medically exempt from serving in the
Speaker 3: Nazi army. Yeah, he's just the cool guy. And he
Speaker 3: also like usually I do these episodes about like great
Speaker 3: men in history and they turn out to be like
Speaker 3: awful to the women in their lives.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, total wife guy Yeah, great wife guys.
Speaker 3: Energy yeah he I.
Speaker 2: Mean not just energy.
Speaker 1: They were like ballroom wall champions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like included her in his plans and like,
Speaker 3: I mean I don't have like I haven't read her.
Speaker 3: I've read some quotes from her, right sure, but like
Speaker 3: compared to a lot of the people that I end
Speaker 3: up researching in history, where they're like so dedicated to
Speaker 3: the cause that they treat everyone in their lives, especially
Speaker 3: the women and who are close to them in their
Speaker 3: lives like terribly, this man is not an example of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So they're out there, they're part of the community.
Speaker 1: They're the people to like get the paddles out and
Speaker 1: go clear like on the street. Like they're you know,
Speaker 1: they are like breaking all this new ground. A racist
Speaker 1: mayor comes in, pushes them out, starts trying to replace
Speaker 1: them with cops, like just stops like cuts their funding,
Speaker 1: keeps cutting their funding. It's like this again, just like
Speaker 1: a movie scene that is incredible that Hollywood is sleeping
Speaker 1: on it. During this period, Freedom House like gets their
Speaker 1: hands on a police scanner and start racing the police
Speaker 1: to get there to save people because the police, the
Speaker 1: police are taking their sweet ass times, so they're like
Speaker 1: listening to when there is a medical emergency and then
Speaker 1: like racing there to help people before the cops can
Speaker 1: show up. But just an amazing story of like, you know,
Speaker 1: people from the community, like the medical power to the people,
Speaker 1: like just all these you know, all these really cool
Speaker 1: ways that this community came together against all odds, and
Speaker 1: like the fact that that's not the story we tell. Instead,
Speaker 1: the story we tell is like fucking an entire genre's
Speaker 1: worth of Westerns, right, like fucking so frustrating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's important connecting those two things.
Speaker 3: That was well done.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks, right, I think it's just up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably important to like even think of it
Speaker 5: in that context of just sort of like you know,
Speaker 5: being fed this these kinds of stories over and over again,
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, to your point market, it's
Speaker 5: like you can almost manifest it through like the repetition
Speaker 5: of that kind of like story arc Whereas like we're now,
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are feeling like we
Speaker 5: need to like transition to something different, something that feels
Speaker 5: more connected, something that feels more humane and actually treats
Speaker 5: people with dignity. And yeah, and all these stories have
Speaker 5: been like in a way buried or whether that's intentionally
Speaker 5: or because they don't think it sells tickets or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know, we're seeing it like that's actually our impulse
Speaker 5: is to just is to invent and iterate and do
Speaker 5: something that is actually for a communal benefit rather than like,
Speaker 5: here's a story of the guy who got so pissed
Speaker 5: off he beat up everyone in town and then races
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's so many movies.
Speaker 1: Catline fucking like John Wick, nobody beat up everybody in town.
Speaker 1: This guy so pissed, gets so pissed that you just
Speaker 1: like beat up everybody in town.
Speaker 5: Like all those Bowl films are like that too, Or
Speaker 5: it's just like Jesus Christ pissed off guy on a mission.
Speaker 3: Because every every American man is told that that's in
Speaker 3: his heart and he could do that if he had to.
Speaker 3: You're like, not every man can beat up every other man.
Speaker 3: That is clearly not true. That is not how mad
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm really.
Speaker 5: Good at going hell, yeah, help me.
Speaker 6: I think most men are because of patriarchy to be.
Speaker 5: Like and then someone fixed it for me, and then
Speaker 5: I told myself, I did it all myself.
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