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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how you be, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 2: you here on this Thursday. Welcome into One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for thanking us a part of your afternoon, as

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Speaker 2: we are still in the throes of draft discussion and

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Speaker 2: debate and analysis. And we'll get to our topic of

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Speaker 2: conversation in just a little bit here. If you listened

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Speaker 2: to yesterday show, you might have heard Steve and I

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Speaker 2: talking about our chores in the yard. Apparently it went

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Speaker 2: better for me than it did for Steve in his

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Speaker 2: expansive estate that has low lying areas of ground, couldn't

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Speaker 2: get to all of it.

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Speaker 1: Could just is you get out there and you start

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Speaker 1: doing and say, well, I'll just do a little more

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Speaker 1: because you don't want.

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Speaker 2: To have to come back and you don't want on

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Speaker 2: even grass in one area of your place.

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Speaker 1: And excuse me, what Brownie's getting at is I had

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Speaker 1: to get some of you know, I drive a wrangler, right,

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Speaker 1: a jeep wrangler. I had to get the wrangler out

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Speaker 1: in four wheel drive and pull my more out of

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Speaker 1: a low spot in the which, as some of you know,

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Speaker 1: leaves scars on your lawn and if you give two

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Speaker 1: cents about what your lawn looks like, the last thing

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Speaker 1: you want is what I did just because I want

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Speaker 1: to get that last swath Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Is it time to call your neighborhood lawn?

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Speaker 1: I'm so ticked about it?

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Speaker 2: Do you know not since I already living here, did

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Speaker 2: I realize that, like lawn rolling is a thing? Have

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Speaker 2: you seen these guys? But they're like mini yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know they look like steamrollers.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely put them Yeah, they put them around. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I never knew that underrated for long.

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Speaker 1: But I actually I do need to get one. But

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Speaker 1: you know how, I've got two tire tracks, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I got a I got a lawn tractor that's

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Speaker 1: it's got wide tires and they're smooth, so they don't

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Speaker 1: leave treads, you know. They it's so it's gentle, it's right.

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Speaker 1: So when they and then when they spin, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an atrocity.

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Speaker 2: How long does it take you to yank that thing

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Speaker 2: out of the muck? That can't be because because here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, you're like, I won't get the lawn done,

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Speaker 2: and then trouble happens and now you're like looking at

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Speaker 2: your watch you're like, it's gonna take another heavy hours.

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Speaker 1: Just got it down to his science. Oh yeah, I've done.

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Speaker 1: I do it so much, pulling it out of the

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Speaker 1: muck thirty second.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, good for you.

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Speaker 1: I got it. I got like a big toastrap presto

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Speaker 1: change out gone then okay, but but the scarring will

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Speaker 1: last for months now. It'll be the end of the

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Speaker 1: summer before it's fixed.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. Oh my gosh, you can massage that

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Speaker 2: well ground so sad you'll I tell I, I just tell.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter. I'm the only one who cares.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that last swath over there. I'll just

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Speaker 1: get it next time, after these next three days, I heat,

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Speaker 1: I'll just run out there, zip zip, I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: But no, Yeah, it's that little thing in your head

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Speaker 2: that says it'd be nice if you could finish all

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: I hate myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I fall into that trap.

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Speaker 1: Hate myself.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I shouldn't have cut that

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Speaker 2: extra row. It's just I knew this was the breaking point.

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Speaker 1: It's not every and it's like I thought it was

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Speaker 1: better this year because I like left half my yard unmoded,

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Speaker 1: like there's a look, you know, I left half of

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Speaker 1: it undone. Just leave it. I'm fine. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: nobody else. It's fine. The Amazon guy, all my friends

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Speaker 1: that come by, that part's all cleared. Ass all looks great.

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Speaker 1: Just leave it looking good from the road. Yeah, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm such an idiot.

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Speaker 2: It's happened to all of us. Yeah. My funny thing was,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to fill in a rock bed, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like eight bags of rocks you

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Speaker 2: know at the local big box store will do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just spread them all out. I'll just spread it thin,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll cover the surface area here. I come

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Speaker 2: back with eight bags, And you would have thought I

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Speaker 2: more area to fill here, Well, eight more should do it, right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're like five bucks a bag. So I

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Speaker 1: I can get another eight.

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Speaker 2: How many? So now I'm looking at the bag, how

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Speaker 2: many square feet does this say? This bag covers? Like

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Speaker 2: there's gotta be more than this. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: rocks in here. Oh my god. I had to go

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Speaker 1: So now you went from eight to twenty four bags.

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Speaker 2: Eight to twenty four. Twenty four did it? And just barely, just.

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Speaker 1: Barely yet you could have used another two bags, probably.

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Speaker 2: Probably, but I was not doing that. I'm not making

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Speaker 2: four trips. So I can't wait for the credit card

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Speaker 2: to come. And my wife's gonna be like they did.

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Speaker 2: They got three trips in four days to the same

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Speaker 2: big box store and it's the same exact price all three.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're like, well, honey, a few more bags.

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Speaker 2: Of rocks today. But it's done. It looks good, crossing

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Speaker 2: off the list.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful, weather man, it's great. And this is now.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow might be eighty yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: It'll we'll get it. It's gonna now, it's over. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be home free. Yeah, we're kind of home free.

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Speaker 1: Now it's gonna get rainy again. Stuff. But I think

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Speaker 1: I'm done scraping my windows.

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Speaker 2: I put my I put my windshield scraper in my

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Speaker 2: little rear compartment, you know. And you're putting a back

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Speaker 2: of your car behind the under the shot up behind

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Speaker 2: the driver's seat anymore. It's in with the first aid kid.

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Speaker 2: That's where it is, and it'll live there.

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Speaker 1: I I really do. I do think we're done scraping windows?

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Speaker 2: How bad is that? Saying that? May second, well, it

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Speaker 2: should be better than that, should be conceivably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I'm I'm I feel good

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Speaker 2: The NFL released the dates yesterday for all of the

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Speaker 2: clubs that for their rookie mini camps. The rookie Mini

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Speaker 2: camp dates for the Bills, that's gonna be next Thursday,

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Speaker 2: as they go. May or sorry, May tenth to the

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Speaker 2: eleventh is Rookie Minni camp. So all the draft choices,

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Speaker 2: the undrafted rookie signings, which will probably be announced sometime

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Speaker 2: next week. Officially, after those players get in and sign

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Speaker 2: those contracts, they'll all be out there along with a

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Speaker 2: good number of tryout players because the draft class and

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Speaker 2: about ten or twelve undrafted rookie signings are not enough

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Speaker 2: to stage a practice, so they bring in tryout players

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Speaker 2: who are looking for a look, see right, and that

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Speaker 2: way they can fill out incapably practice on both sides

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Speaker 2: of the ball. Special team say, think about it.

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Speaker 1: Think about this. You got you know, you didn't know

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Speaker 1: if you get draft you're from a small school or whatever,

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Speaker 1: because you got some measurables. You're big enough, and they

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Speaker 1: say you know what you want to come? It is.

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Speaker 1: Let me say, it is a such a thrill to say, man,

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Speaker 1: let's go and for that at least, even if they

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Speaker 1: say thanks for showing up, but we're not gonna sign yet.

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Speaker 1: So just for that day, you're part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, really cool now.

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Speaker 2: I remember several years back, rookie mini caamp was often

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Speaker 2: the following week right after the draft. Right they were

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Speaker 2: in the next week, they were here. Now, the league

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Speaker 2: has since changed that you can have players in for

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Speaker 2: rookie mini caamp the week after or the following week,

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Speaker 2: so you have a two week window in which to

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Speaker 2: how many days you want them in. And from what

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Speaker 2: I can see, on this list, there are one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 2: doing that, Baltimore is doing that, Philadelphia the Jets, whenever

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Speaker 1: To me, and maybe I'm wrong, I don't I haven't

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Speaker 1: checked that that list of clubs against the salary cap,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it kind of might be financialist.

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Speaker 1: So let's you know, we got to redo this and

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Speaker 1: so we can sign these kids and get them in.

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Speaker 1: That's probably part of it. But this rookie mini camp thing,

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Speaker 1: and now they're back, like they got the vets in here.

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Speaker 1: Now they're running through phase two of this. You know

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Speaker 1: they're out think you know, they got helmets on and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So everybody starts to get the itch now right, and

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff realizes, like, man, we got to install

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Speaker 1: we got to install this, this, this, and this, we

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Speaker 1: the gotta get go. And it has always been, man,

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Speaker 1: you draft these guys, get them in, get them in.

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Speaker 1: Even when I got like in the eighties, when I

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Speaker 1: got drafted, like the next week, it was the entire

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Speaker 1: team was on the field. Let's go in helmets, put

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Speaker 1: an install in. I mean it was big. They can't

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Speaker 1: you it. The itch starts to get these guys and

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Speaker 1: they start getting antsy about man, we're gonna fall behind.

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Speaker 1: So they always and that's why the CBA and the

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Speaker 1: players you need to step in and say whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa whoa. You're not having too a days in May.

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Speaker 2: Yeah just a second there, hold up.

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Speaker 1: So and plus now two, a lot of smart coaches

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Speaker 1: are getting the sports science people involved and they and

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Speaker 1: they go through the whole year and they they lay

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Speaker 1: out how long does it take to do this? And

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Speaker 1: they how long does it take to do that? And

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Speaker 1: how long does it take to do that? And they

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Speaker 1: lay it out and they you know, they have a

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Speaker 1: little common sense and some scientific data to look at

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Speaker 1: before they just throw everybody on the field in helmets.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a year round deal. Man. We're living

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Speaker 1: proof of that.

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Speaker 3: You and me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're doing a football radio show four months

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Speaker 1: after the season was over.

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Speaker 2: Every day, Yeah, well there are. Because the league has

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Speaker 2: done an expert job of setting up ten poll off

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Speaker 2: season events.

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Speaker 1: I tell all my buddies and we talked about the

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Speaker 1: draft for over two mates. You and I know, we

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Speaker 1: go out and talk to people and they go, what

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Speaker 1: do you you know? As you you know, when you

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Speaker 1: can start the radio show again, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't stop.

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Speaker 1: Oh we didn't stopped. They wait, you did that? Every well, hey,

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Speaker 1: Bills fans gotta know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of what they need to know, let's get

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Speaker 2: news of the day is it is deadline day for

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Speaker 1: Right, So you got guys like it would be interesting

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Speaker 2: I'm looking not the right draft class.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, they're always more coming up out

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing some shake in maybe, dude, those guys are

436
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Speaker 2: made of.

437
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Speaker 1: Money out there, dude, that's that's a that's a you know,

438
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Speaker 1: let's think about it too. That's a very respect Oh no,

439
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: it's a generously.

440
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think part of the

441
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: reason why, you know, NFL teams appreciating value considerably every year.

442
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: They usually outpace inflation, although nowadays that might be a

443
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: little different. The stadium hosts Super Bowls, yeah, you know,

444
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: among other things, and then F one has taken off

445
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: like a rocket in the last three years in terms

446
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: of valuation of race teams, the circuit itself, the the

447
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: net revenue of race events. So I get it, I

448
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: get the offer. I'm just it just got me to thinking, like,

449
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: how many people on the planet.

450
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: Are gonna say no to ten billion the coin?

451
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

452
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: Who's got the coin to make the offer? And then

453
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: who's got the Who's who's got the security in their sense?

454
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: Just say, you know, I'm good, thanks. I like what

455
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Yeah, I like what I'm doing. That's that's

456
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: wild to me. Bless his heart. That is beyond the one.

457
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: Tell you, that's the point two percent.

458
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't have any love loss for any of the

459
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins owner you know, Stephen Ross, but I gotta tip

460
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: my hat to him. I gotta tip my hat to

461
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: the guy Goodness gracious.

462
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, last bit of news here we heard Commissioner Roger Goodell,

463
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: among other NFL executives, flowed out the mention of an

464
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: eighteen game regular season and just a two game preseason

465
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Speaker 2: along with an extra bye week, which would then push

466
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl to President's Day weekend. Yeah. Mark Maski

467
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: of the Washington Post now reporting that the NFL may

468
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Speaker 2: try to get the NFL Players Association to agree to

469
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: an eighteenth regular season game before the expiration of the

470
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Speaker 2: current CBA in twenty thirty one. That's when you know

471
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: the doors are open to that. But it sounds as

472
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: if ownership would like to get there sooner rather than later. Obviously,

473
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: it means extra revenue. It also means when the new

474
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: media deals come around for contracts and whatnot, they can

475
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: ask for even more money.

476
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Speaker 1: They're doing it wrong. They're doing it wrong. They should

477
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: They should move the season further into July and August August,

478
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Speaker 1: get two regular season games in in the end of August,

479
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: and then take Labor Day weekend off, get two games

480
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Speaker 1: in before Labor.

481
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Speaker 2: Day bye week for the whole league.

482
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Speaker 1: Everybody's office. Let's task, you're playing the nation takes a

483
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: holiday on a Labor Day weekend. Let let basin.

484
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Speaker 2: They're thinking the same thing. On the other end, Presidents, well.

485
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: President's Day though, no, they're they'd be playing the super

486
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Speaker 1: Bowl on President.

487
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean, but everybody's off on Monday. Party over here,

488
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Speaker 2: party over there.

489
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Speaker 1: They're still doing it wrong because it should be super

490
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Speaker 1: Bowl Saturday, not Super Bowl Sunday. Because you got two

491
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: weeks anyway, give it, Give it on Saturday. Everybody travel

492
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday, have a day off, land presto chango. That's

493
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: how they should do it. Two games late July, early September,

494
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Labor Day, late August, late Labor Day off for everybody.

495
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: And then it's a sixteen game schedule with a or

496
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: a sixteen game schedule with a bye week sprinkled in

497
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: for everybody, like what they do. And then this playoffs

498
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: start as per usual, and then it should be super

499
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Bowl Saturday, not Super Bowl Sunday.

500
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Speaker 2: That's I wonder how they feel about the Labor Day

501
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: hiatus for the league. It's like you just got everybody

502
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: ramped up for regular season football. I could see the

503
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: league not overly enthused.

504
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Think about that, because think about it.

505
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: You started the season, everybody's stamped, and then for a

506
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: week you go dark. That's just not the way they know.

507
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: It creates, creates an appetite. You get those it's like,

508
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: all right now we got it. No, no, because then

509
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: it'll be great because it's all that's way to do it.

510
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: It's absolutely the way.

511
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: To do it.

512
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: So you I mean, I'm not saying that they're going

513
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: to lose viewers because they take off for a week.

514
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: As a league.

515
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I just they used to remember Now they don't start

516
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: until after Labor Day for a.

517
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: Reason because yeah, because it's still for largely an outdoor

518
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: barbecue holiday and people aren't in front of their television.

519
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Give it to them and just have two games in

520
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: by then, so then everybody can like, hey, this is

521
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: all and then they then you can heal up for

522
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: two weeks. Everybody gets to heal up. It'll be two

523
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, two preseason games, two regular season games.

524
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, let's get heal all right, we

525
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: got a guy. Now we can and they'll they'll be

526
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: there'll be windows for players to be activated after a

527
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and the bye week. They say, we'll

528
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: give them the first two weeks. You know, we'll give

529
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: them the two preseason games the first two weeks. Then

530
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: he'll be ready by week three or week four when

531
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: we come back from Labor Day, we'll be ready to

532
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: go sixteen games. Let's go. That's you, you know, it's

533
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that's Let me say that's the way it should be done,

534
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: all right. You can't convince me otherwise the tasker plan

535
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: should be in.

536
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I'd rather start later and have more of my summer.

537
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: We don't know if this summer doesn't change. It starts right,

538
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: then starts when it always does for us, go to

539
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: training camp the same time. A week in week, two

540
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: weeks in game, another game. Let's go.

541
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, we have to take a break. But before

542
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: we do, let us share our topic of discussion with

543
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: you for today's program. We want to know who is

544
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: your sleeper pick from this year's Bill's draft class. Who

545
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: do you think is going to be a pleasant surprise

546
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: on the back half of this draft class? And let

547
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: us know it aight oh three oh five point fifty

548
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty the

549
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: numbers to get on board. We are wide open for

550
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: your phone calls here and uh, we've got open lines

551
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 2: for you, so chime in. Let us know who's your

552
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: sleeper pick from the Bill's draft class this year. Eighth

553
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: three oh fo fifty your phone calls when we return

554
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by to a lot

555
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 2: of help. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here

556
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

557
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: Aight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight

558
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get on board.

559
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: As we are asking you today, who is your sleeper

560
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: on the back end of this Bill's draft class? Somebody

561
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: you think is going to be a pleasant surprise going forward.

562
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: We know the big names at the front end of

563
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: the draft, but who has caught your eye on the

564
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: backside that you say, I think this guy might surprise

565
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: the people.

566
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: You let us know.

567
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Aight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five

568
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: fifty two five point fifty, got open lines for you there.

569
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: But we lead off today with Rob out in Connecticut.

570
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: What's up, Rob Hey?

571
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: Chris Hey, Steve always a pledger. Once again. I mean

572
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: I always tell myself I'm not gonna call today. I'm

573
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: not gonna call, but I have to say that my

574
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: sleeper is Ray Davis. Don't sleep on him, because Steve

575
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: was actually talking about him. This guy does not run

576
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: out of pounds. He wants to. He wants to pound it.

577
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: He wants to shove it down your throat and keep

578
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: moving forward. And also I want to touch on something

579
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: that Steve was talking about with Justin Fields using him

580
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: as a returner. If you remember, they utilize Cordell's Stewart

581
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: as a wide out back in the day, so that

582
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: could be possible. So I was just wondering what you

583
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: thought about that. Thanks guys for taking my call today.

584
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember they got around. They used Cordell Stewart

585
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, no question. He was drafted

586
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and they used the slash I remember

587
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: his nickname was Slash because a quarterback slash receiver. So

588
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: that they could get away with some roster exemption is

589
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: regarding the positions like quarterback position. They could keep him

590
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: active as and just have one quarterback active and get

591
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: some flexibility on their roster by putting a slash with him,

592
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't have it's gonna be interesting. I

593
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: doubt that they have Justin Field's returning kickoffs, so they might.

594
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: They might, if he's taking snaps at quarterback, they won't.

595
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be stunned if Ray Davis takes some kickoffs.

596
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either.

597
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like we were saying, it's it's more like

598
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: a line of scrimmage play now with these new rules,

599
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: And who feels more comfortable running behind people on a

600
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: play that mimics a line of scrimmage play than a

601
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: running back.

602
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a course scrambling quarterback like Justin Fields too.

603
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm it's gonna be interesting the new kickoff rules.

604
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: And I thought when I first heard Justin Fields might

605
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: be used as returning kicks, I thought, you know, they'd

606
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: set up a right return and you catch the ball

607
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: and go off to your right, and with a quarterback

608
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: like Fields, he stops and throws it back to the

609
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: left and there's nobody over there except for one of

610
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: his guys catches it, and it's a way they go

611
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: off to the races. So it could use it. They

612
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: could use him as a misdirection quarterback and throwing it

613
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: across the field. I mean, Bill's fans know how dangerous

614
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: the throwback can be, So that's what I thought of.

615
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Justin Fields is fast enough to outrun

616
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: some really fast guys on a coverage team, but he's

617
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: certainly big enough to give you second thoughts about trying

618
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: to jump in front of him and tackle him.

619
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: Ray Davis is I said it on Monday. He's my

620
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: favorite pick in the entire class because of the value

621
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: and where he is and where he was taken. And

622
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: you know what he's overcome to have the college career

623
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: that he did. I mean I already mentioned it. He

624
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: set a school record at Kentucky with twenty one total

625
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: touchdowns last year. But if you look at his touchdown

626
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: figures for his career, he's got twenty nine rushing touchdowns

627
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: twelve receiving touchdowns for a total of forty one in

628
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: his career. And you know, as we've mentioned already, over

629
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: a thousand yards of three different schools, Temple, Vanderbilt, in Kentucky.

630
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: So the guy gets it done wherever he goes. I mean, yes,

631
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: you're stepping up a level here. But I don't think

632
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: there's any reason of doubt that guy. I know, I'm

633
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: not right.

634
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm it's a great pick. He's he's gonna be a guy.

635
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: That's I think he's gonna be hard to keep off

636
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: the roster and you think, whoa guy. Everybody thinks like, wow,

637
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good. It's gonna be hard to

638
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: get on the field at that. Spot Ty Johnson and

639
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: James Cook are really good. They're pros proven, and they've

640
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: got some trust from the coaching staff.

641
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: And I got one more number that I know the

642
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: coaching staff likes. Two fumbles in three seasons in the SEC.

643
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's big.

644
00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: That's big for them.

645
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: That's big for sure.

646
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a good that's a good pick. I

647
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: was gonna for a sleeper. I was gonna pick Javon Solomon.

648
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: I think there's something to him that's gonna be. I

649
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, just the fact that he's

650
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: a little undersized but has long arms, which I think

651
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: make up for the lack of size. I don't know

652
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: what it is, but I just feel like there's gonna

653
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: be He's gonna be effective early more than people anticipated.

654
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: It's just a guess on my part, But there's just

655
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: a relentlessness to his game that I think is appealing.

656
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: Like when I watch how relentless he is as a

657
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: pass rusher, it reminds me of Max Crosby. Now, those

658
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: are two very different players in terms of body type

659
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: Max Crosby, yes, that's the similarity motor Max Crosby is

660
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: gifted with like thirty five inch arms and a six

661
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: foot six frame, But in terms of motor they are

662
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: the same player.

663
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the sleep and when we ask you know

664
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: about your sleeper candidate or sleeper draft picked by the Bills,

665
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to you know, you can't pick key On

666
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Coleman because everybody expects him to be good. Cole Bishop

667
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: is an easy one because it's an off position. He's

668
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: a safety position, but one that Bills fans know well

669
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: how important it is defensive tackle. I think the one

670
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: that got me first off was Cedric van prin Grainger.

671
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: He lasted that long. Think about it about any position

672
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: in the in football where this guy played on two

673
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: national championship squads, started every game for all of them,

674
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: played at the highest possible level, uh and was a

675
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: team captain all that stuff and not be just have

676
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: teams salivating over him. That's who this guy is. The

677
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: only thing he doesn't do is run fast. He's a

678
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: great technician, good size, moves well to the second level.

679
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: Might struggle to get to the edge if you have

680
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: him snap and pull to the pull out around the corner,

681
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: makes calls. And he played against as good a defensive

682
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: tackles as you could as you got. I mean, he

683
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: was playing against all these first round draft picks that

684
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: came out of Georgia at defensive tackle. He was practicing

685
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: against him every.

686
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Day Byron Murphy and to and Andre Sweat at Texas.

687
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: You know, they played some SEC games, so I don't

688
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: think they played Georgia though. They don't do that till

689
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, but yeah, I mean he's played top

690
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: flight competition for the last three years. He's playing those

691
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: big old boys down at Alabama too, So yeah, yeah, yeah,

692
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a good choice. I could see him

693
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: perhaps challenging for a starting role. I mean, maybe you

694
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: have the good fortune of he's so impressive that a

695
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: year from now you put him in at center and

696
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: you move mc government back to guard.

697
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: Right, that could happen, right, And I think the strength

698
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: of his game. It seems to be his maturity, and uh,

699
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's what they That's kind of part

700
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: of the DNA of that position around the league. You

701
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: got to have a guy that's it's not too big

702
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: for you.

703
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, who is your sleeper from this year's Bill's

704
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: draft class? You let us know at eight h three

705
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

706
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: five fiftieth the number to get on board. I saw

707
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: this on ESPN dot com, Steve. They have player projections,

708
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to pretend to know the analytics

709
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: and the algorithms that go into this, but they basically

710
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: had a category called player projections where they took the

711
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: top one hundred and sixty players drafted and put a

712
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: projection on them through whatever series of number formulas they utilize,

713
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: and they attached a percentage to each player the percentage

714
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: likelihood that they will be a Pro Bowl caliber player

715
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: in their pro career, the percentage that they'll be a starter,

716
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: a backup, or a replacement player. So for Keon Coleman,

717
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: it says, based on their projections, he has a twenty

718
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: four percent chance of being a Pro Bowl player forty

719
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: four percent chance of being a full time starter, twenty

720
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: six percent chance of being a backup three point four

721
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: percent as a replacement player for Cole Bishop, thirty nine

722
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: percent chance that he is a Pro Bowl safety, forty

723
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: one percent chance that he's a starter, sixteen and a

724
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: half percent backup. Dwayne Carter sixteen point four percent chance

725
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: he's a Pro Bowl player, thirty three percent full time starter,

726
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: thirty percent backup, Ray Davis ten percent Pro Bowl caliber

727
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: running back, twenty seven point six percent starter, thirty nine

728
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: percent per cent backup, and then Van pran Grainger who

729
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: you just mentioned, twelve and a half percent Pro Bowl

730
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: caliber center, eighteen point seven percent full time starter, and

731
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: then thirty seven percent backup. The guy of the top

732
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: six players picked Steve with the highest percentage to be

733
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: a full time starter atifuon uleifotio. Really, forty nine point

734
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: six percent projected to be a full time starter at

735
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: linebacker in the league. He had the highest percentage of

736
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: any of the top six picks by the Bills. Now, again, really,

737
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: this is math that is too far off my radar.

738
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: With the algorithms and the advanced metrics that they used

739
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: to determine this, but he had the highest percentage to

740
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: be a full time starter of the top six picks

741
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: by the Bills. I don't know if I'm buying it,

742
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: but more power to him if he makes it happen.

743
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so there you go.

744
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: He also, by the way, is a thirteen percent chance

745
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: to be a Pro Bowl player, twenty six percent chance

746
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: to be a backup. So I don't know the projections,

747
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: they're an interesting thing to talk about, but basically it's Uleafotio,

748
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: then Coleman, then Bishop and it kind of descends from there.

749
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why Ulfotio was such a high percentage

750
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: to be a starter, but the math believes in Ulfocio.

751
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: So there you go. For what it's worth. I don't know.

752
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: We're trying to find sleepers and you got a guy

753
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: there in the fifth round. It's almost got a fifty

754
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: to fifty shot of being a starter. It's amazing.

755
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing. Oh, there you go.

756
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: Let's see if he can make it happen.

757
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let's go.

758
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: He had a ninety tackle seen last year for a

759
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: national runner up.

760
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: I wish I had answered our question with him.

761
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have looked like a man, super genius,

762
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: an analytics wizard. Dare we say yeah, because I mean look,

763
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: and the guy overcame a lot too, because he had

764
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: a biceps injury that cut his sophomore season short, then

765
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: he had an acl injury that cut his junior season short.

766
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Then he comes back last year with a ninety tackle

767
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: season as Washington goes all the way to the National

768
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: title game. So it's a pretty good showing for a

769
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: guy that's had to clear a couple of hurdles here

770
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: as he earned second team All American honors. Got to

771
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: take a break here, but when we come back, more

772
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. Who is your sleeper from this

773
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: year's Bill's Draft class? Nobody from those top three rounds.

774
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: You let us know who your sleeper is. Next on

775
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colida of Health, It's Buffalo

776
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

777
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, asking you for your sleeper pick

778
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: to the Bills twenty twenty four draft class. Let's go

779
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: to the phones at eight three one eight, eight eight

780
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty and waiting there for us

781
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: is Rex In Tanawanda. What do you got for his?

782
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Rex?

783
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I got a bonus for you. I also

784
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 6: I got two sleepers first one Brandon Bean. He must

785
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 6: have been sleeping the whole first round while all those

786
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: top wide receivers getting drafted. Uh so yeah, not who

787
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 6: not who thrilled about that? Secondly, though, I think Travis

788
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 6: Clayton the oh that guy is a giant quick feat.

789
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 6: He's going to be under Aaron Kromer learning. I think

790
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 6: there's potential there. And I'm from a seventh round pick

791
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 6: to a starter. I'm calling it in three years, I'm

792
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 6: calling it right now.

793
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's definitely a development project. I don't

794
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: think there's any question about that Rex, you know, having

795
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: very little football acumen. He comes from a rugby background,

796
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: as most of us know by now. But yeah, the

797
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: the athleticism is readily apparent hand time four to seven nine,

798
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: three hundred one pounds, that'll get you at ten. But

799
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: there's also lateral agility there, a change of direction skills

800
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: which are more important as an offensive lineman. So yeah,

801
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's it's it's an interesting developmental project.

802
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. Uh not for nothing that Brandon

803
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: bean watching all those wide receivers get picked. There was

804
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: only four of them that got picked ahead of him.

805
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: They got the chance of the fifth one, which is

806
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: exactly what we talked about for weeks on end. So

807
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: he really didn't stand by and watch guys get picked.

808
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: He knew he wasn't going to have a shot at

809
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: the first three and the fourth one went twenty three

810
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: and it was just too expensive to move up. So

811
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: he's not sitting by watching those guys. He had no

812
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: shot at those guys. Yeah, which he had no shot

813
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: which is why he didn't, which is why he didn't

814
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: the draft so and yeah, so and nobody well whatever. So, yeah,

815
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: he didn't sit by and just watch those guys get drafted,

816
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: and you're you're mad at him for doing that. He

817
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: had no chance at those guys. That's and that when

818
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: it did get to him, he didn't want the guy

819
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: that the other team wanted. They could have him, give

820
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: us those let's move up fifty nine spots in twenty

821
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: seven spots.

822
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, I mean they were sitting there at

823
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: thirty two and they would have taken call him in

824
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: there anyway. So moved back one more spot and you

825
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: gain another pick, you get another sixty spots from two

826
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: hundred to sixty spots, and so that's two rounds.

827
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other ones twenty They went up twenty

828
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: seven rounds, which is almost a full round.

829
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, one forty one was the center

830
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are picking to be a

831
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: starter in a year or two as they're a sleeper.

832
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's not like he was sitting there like

833
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: didn't care, You couldn't do anything, and letting I'll say

834
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: it again, never getting the way of your enemy if

835
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: they're making a mistake, and if you don't think you

836
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: want that guy and they do, let him have him

837
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: and let him make him pay you to take him,

838
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: which is what happened.

839
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: And that's and I think that's the difference between nflgms

840
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: and a lot of fans of the draft. Like fans

841
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: of the draft get a player that's their favorite, that

842
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: they think is the best fit for their team, and

843
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: that's the only thing they see. They don't widen their

844
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: scope to explore other options or other ways of getting

845
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: to a place where your team is better with somebody else.

846
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: I wonder what percent, and I know there's some amount there.

847
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: They didn't care if they took Xavier Worthy or not.

848
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Just trading with the Chiefs for anything, giving the Chiefs

849
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: anything that they wanted. They didn't care. If the Chiefs

850
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: would have wanted to trade for a bag of footballs,

851
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: they would have been mad at trade dealing with them.

852
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: We did find out that the Chiefs were trying to

853
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: trade up higher in the round to get Amarus Mims,

854
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from Georgia, and when they couldn't do that,

855
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: they kind of switched plans and went up to get

856
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: a receiver, and then obviously with their second pick they

857
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: got Kingsley's.

858
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: The thing that did it too was and this is

859
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: stuff we talk about this on the pod this week,

860
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Xavier Legett, a guy we had spoken about about the

861
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: Bills getting him and him being a guy like Deebo

862
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Samuel and San Francisco being YadA YadA, YadA YadA. Legett

863
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: gets all the way to thirty two where the Bills

864
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: are picking, and Leguette has already started tweeting that the

865
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers had totally get that they were gonna take

866
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: him in the first pick of the second round. The

867
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: next day, he started tweeting that before the round, before

868
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: the first round was over. So in doing so, that

869
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: kind of forced Carolina's hand to thinking, Man, the Bills are.

870
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: The Bills are looking for a receiver they traded back.

871
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Worthy's gone. They're probably gonna take Leget because they probably

872
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: think about it the same way we do. So we

873
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: better offer the Bills a trade up just to flip

874
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: the flip the picks, so that gives Buffalo the proceeds

875
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: from that trade, just to flip one pick. And they

876
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with Legat. They wanted Keon

877
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Coleman anyway. So the weirdness of the draft where one

878
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: of the draft picks starts tweeting out what the team

879
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: is telling him, it's kind of a little bit of

880
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: a no no. But I mean, the kid's not working

881
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 1: for him anyway. He can do what he wants.

882
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Worked out for him, worked out for him. Let's go

883
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: to Terrell in Buffalo. What do you got for us? Hey?

884
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. So I think the sleeper

885
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 5: pick is going to be the linebacker in the fifth

886
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 5: round from Washington. I like his size, I like his

887
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: ability to cover. Reminds me a lot of Matt Milano

888
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: in terms of where he's being drafted, and Bean has

889
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: shown that he has success taking linebackers Layton address.

890
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: He does have a history of that. You're one hundred

891
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: percent on the money with that one. I won't debate that.

892
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 2: I mean even Baalen Spector, who was a sixth round pick,

893
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: has been on this roster and you know, worked into

894
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: the lineup when injury has struck. So yeah, there is

895
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: there is a track record of sorts there. I mean,

896
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: even from an undrafted perspective. Tyrrell Dodson, you know, he

897
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: played a role on this defense the last couple of

898
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: years after being a good special teamer. So yeah, yeah,

899
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: I get it.

900
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, if Ulafotio comes into Buffalo and

901
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: has a season, you know, whether he gets on the

902
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: field out of you know, I don't know who he's

903
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: gonna play in front of me because they the bills

904
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: are said. But let's say the guy comes in and

905
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: makes a splash, does something, You're gonna have T shirts

906
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: with his front tooth smile. You might because you know,

907
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: he's missing one of his two front teeth. He's got

908
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: a gap and it's real distinctive, and he's a great

909
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: got a great smile, great, dude, you can't. You know,

910
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: it makes you it. It's one of those smiles that

911
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: makes you smile. So you could see that happening, and uh,

912
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, just since we started this show,

913
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: we're starting to get a lot of you know, a

914
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: lot of positive vibes about Fotio.

915
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: He he's another guy like Solomon who's short. He's six

916
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: foot and a half inch, but he's got long arms.

917
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: Got thirty three inch arms for a six footer. Yeah,

918
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: so I mean that's not long, but for a six footer,

919
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: it's longer than normal. So there's something to be said

920
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: about that, especially at the second level and on the

921
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: edge as a pass rusher. Gotta take a break here,

922
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: but when we come back our second hour of the show,

923
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: we'll begin with NFL draft analyst Chadrud from NFL dot Com.

924
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna run through the Bill's draft class, maybe even

925
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: dabble in some of the undrafted reported rookie signings to

926
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: see what he thinks about those. But he had grades

927
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: for the Bills for all three days. We'll weigh in

928
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: on those next Here on One Bill's Live presented by

929
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

930
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by call lighta health all Right.

931
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: Hour number two Here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve

932
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: Tasker with you One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining us,

933
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: and we'll get on to the sleepers hearing this Bill's

934
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: draft class in just a second. But pleased to be

935
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: joined now by NFL dot Com draft researcher and analyst

936
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Chad Writer joining us on the program. Good to have you, Chad.

937
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: I want to jump right in here because I think

938
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: your overall grade for the Bills class was a B plus,

939
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: but your highest grade because you went day one, Day two,

940
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: day three, was for Day three. You gave them an A.

941
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Maybe just shed a little light on why you felt

942
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: so positively about what they hauled in Day three.

943
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 8: Well, I'm sure that the fact that I had three

944
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 8: of the guys projected to be picked by the Bills

945
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 8: and my seven round mock draft had nothing to do

946
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 8: with it, right, No, Look, I think they got really

947
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 8: good value in the players they had, and they hit

948
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 8: good needs. They had the hit needs for this team,

949
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 8: and I think Wulfohio is really a good linebacker. Kind

950
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 8: of looks like a running back, but he doesn't play

951
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 8: like and I think he was a really solid pick

952
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 8: for them. I figured they'd look at him. Cedric van

953
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 8: Pran is a guy that if they need to, they

954
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 8: could play him as a rookie. He's an experience guy.

955
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 8: He bounced back from him, you know, an average sophomore year,

956
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 8: played very well as a junior, and if things with

957
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 8: Connor and McGovern, if they need to shake things up

958
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 8: in the line a little bit, he can step right in.

959
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 8: So you gotta you gotta love that.

960
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

961
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 8: Grabil has grown a lot since his time as Jacksonville

962
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 8: State as a tight end, and he's continued to grow

963
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 8: during his career USA UF and he if he continues that,

964
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 8: continues to build his life strength and able to really

965
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 8: get that anchor, he could be a phenomenal swing tackle

966
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 8: for this team in the future. Jay Kwon Hardy was

967
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: another guy I thought they would they could pick not

968
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 8: only for his great return skills, uh, but also as

969
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 8: as a guy that's gonna be able to play nickel

970
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 8: for them. Maybe not as much this year as he

971
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 8: gets into the game a little bit, but in time

972
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 8: he's gonna he's gonna be a part of that rotation,

973
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 8: I think. And so really and Ray Davis. Look, Ray

974
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 8: Davis is a back that he pretty much anybody who

975
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 8: followed this draft goes, look, you're you're gonna get be

976
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 8: able to get Ray Davis on Ray three, He's gonna

977
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 8: a really solid profer. You can catch the ball. He

978
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 8: has a good feel in traffic, and he can he

979
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 8: has enough acceleration once he gets to the open field

980
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 8: to really be a difference maker. So I really thought

981
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 8: they did a great job finding value for spots that

982
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 8: they needed players.

983
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting too. Now, certainly this

984
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: is a season, an offseason where the Bills had more

985
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: departures than they have had in the last handful of years,

986
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: and significant losses as well contributors, but they did get

987
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: in this draft, albeit with ten picks. They got help

988
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: at all three levels of both sides of the ball

989
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: offensive line, running back, wide receiver, defensive line, defensive end, linebacker,

990
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: and corner in safety. So they really bolstered the roster

991
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: at every single position group.

992
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 8: And they needed to find a return guy too. I

993
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 8: think you want Shakira to really be a receiver as

994
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 8: much as possible to take hold of that role this year,

995
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 8: so you needed to find a return guy, and I know,

996
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 8: I'm preaching the choir here about special teams. You but

997
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 8: when you find a guy like Hardy that can play

998
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 8: on defense and who as a punt returner is willing

999
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 8: to take that first step forward and that's so important,

1000
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 8: and he's got the speed once he gets in the

1001
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 8: open field. So when you can fill holes on defense

1002
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 8: and offense and get special teams help as well, you know,

1003
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 8: it was real. It was a really good draft for

1004
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 8: those guys, which is no surprise because Brindon bringing his

1005
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 8: staff do a great job every year.

1006
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: He did take, you know, a different approach to this draft, though, Chad,

1007
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: because in three of the last five drafts he's traded

1008
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: up in round one. This year he trades out completely,

1009
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: but he parlays that into three Day two picks instead

1010
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: of just one, which is what they had at the outset.

1011
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: And he told us after Night two he had more

1012
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: players on their board with second round grades than with

1013
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: first round grades. So I think moving back was a

1014
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: very comfortable move for him him to make, knowing he

1015
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: would have a bounty of players to choose from.

1016
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean I think with the trades that

1017
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 8: they did, you know, in the first round, they didn't

1018
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 8: necessarily gain picks, but they gained value in picks, and

1019
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 8: that's something you have to think about when you're making

1020
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 8: these trades. Are you willing to take a fourth round

1021
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 8: pick or are you more interested in swapping your fifth

1022
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 8: for their third? So you're gaining that value, and you

1023
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 8: know it's not always an easy choice. Some teams want

1024
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 8: loads more picks, some teams want more value in those picks,

1025
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 8: like for example, when the Packers and the Bills made

1026
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 8: the trade for Ozewell Douglas, the Packers didn't gain picks,

1027
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: but they moved from a fifth to a third. So

1028
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 8: it really depends on the situation and all that. But

1029
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 8: I think again, like you said, even a team with

1030
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 8: as strong as a roster as the Bills had, you

1031
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 8: want competition on the back end of that roster. And

1032
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 8: they got guys that are going to be able to

1033
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 8: give them competition this year and then maybe said on

1034
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 8: the practice squad if they don't make the team, and

1035
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 8: then next year they'll be back in the fall too.

1036
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 8: So I think they accomplished a lot of things draft.

1037
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Was this draft a sign of where the draft has

1038
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: come to or is it a trend? You had six

1039
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks first twelve picks. I mean, it's unprecedented. You had

1040
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: offensive tackles every you had fourteen players pick before they

1041
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: even picked a defensive player. Is this where the draft

1042
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: is headed or is this the peak of where it's gone?

1043
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 8: I think I think it's it was sort of a

1044
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 8: one off. Now every year people say, oh, but next

1045
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: year's class isn't that good. Well, you know, guess what happened.

1046
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 8: Jane Daniels was great this year when people didn't expect, Oh,

1047
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 8: Nicks stepped up and people didn't, you know, necessarily expect that.

1048
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 8: And next year we've got some guys that people aren't

1049
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 8: talking about right now that are going to be in

1050
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 8: the conversation. So I expect that it will have I mean,

1051
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 8: it's been typical now for a while that we've had

1052
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 8: three or four quarterbacks go in the first round, and

1053
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 8: I expect that to continue. I don't think we're going

1054
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 8: to see five or six every year, especially since this

1055
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 8: year was really high demand at the position at the

1056
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 8: top of the draft, So that's not going to happen

1057
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 8: every year.

1058
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: Chad, knowing you're a researcher also, I don't know if

1059
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: you've ever researched this, but the Bills the last several

1060
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: years with a veteran roster, have not been able to

1061
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: keep a lot of their late Day three picks on

1062
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: their fifty three. They put them on the practice squad

1063
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: and they get poached away by other clubs and they're

1064
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: on fifty three man rosters. I mean, Alex Austin, their

1065
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: seventh round pick last year, just got re signed by

1066
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: the Patriots to stay on their roster, and Nick Broker

1067
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: their sixth round pick last year. The offensive lineman out

1068
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: of Old miss is still in Houston. And this isn't

1069
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: the first time this happened. Jack Anderson's in Indianapolis. He

1070
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: was a seventh round pick three years ago. I mean,

1071
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine how frustrating it's got to be for

1072
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean, Like his personnel department is doing their job

1073
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: on Day three and they can't hold on to those

1074
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: players to develop them. Now, it might be a little

1075
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: different this year with the roster turnover they've experienced. I

1076
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: think there is a greater chance for all of their

1077
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Day three picks to make the fifty three. But it's

1078
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: a risk that you're taking. I mean, you're talking about

1079
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: Tyland Grabil having to grow into his frame, put on

1080
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: some more weight, you know now that he's an offensive

1081
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: tackle and not a tight end anymore. And I'm hoping

1082
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: that the Bills can hold on to him long enough

1083
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: to see the fruits of that labor. Yeah.

1084
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 8: Look, it's a nice problem to have. Okay, it's a

1085
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 8: nice problem to have because there are plenty teams out

1086
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 8: there that have been you know, that are not evaluating

1087
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 8: these players necessarily as well as they could, or they're

1088
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 8: reaching for guys at other positions and then they're scouring

1089
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 8: the deeper teams for more talent. And that's just part

1090
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 8: of the plan. I mean, you just have to evaluate

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 8: the guys the best you can and if they can't

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 8: make the squad and they get coached by others, that's

1093
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 8: that's what you have to deal with. And interestingly, like

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 8: a lot of the undrafted guys that have this year too,

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 8: aren't bad players. Either half of them could have been drafted.

1096
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 8: So if you do a good job and other teams

1097
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 8: are able to, you know, quote take advantage of that.

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 8: That's just part of the deal. When you have a

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00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 8: good staff, when you make good evaluations, and you know,

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00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 8: you live with that. You're just happy that you have

1101
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 8: the best roster you can to win games on the field,

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Speaker 8: and that's that's the bottom line.

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Usually undrafted free agent guys you kind of go

1104
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: under the radar and nobody knows who they are. But

1105
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: then you get a guy that has the name Frank

1106
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Gore and people, right, oh, hey, I know that guy.

1107
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: And right, so the Bills signed Frank Gore's son, reportedly

1108
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: signed his son. Some of these names on that a

1109
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about. You said, half of

1110
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: these guys should have been could have been drafted in

1111
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: other circumstances. Talk to us a little bit about maybe

1112
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: some of the guys that were reportedly looking at the Bills.

1113
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, Rondel Bothrid was really good at Wake

1114
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 8: four US and you know, productive at Oklahoma, a really

1115
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 8: solid player, and you know, he wasn't a plus athlete

1116
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 8: in his workout, so that that hurt us and that

1117
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 8: hurt his skin. But like a guy like Keaton Bills

1118
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 8: from Utah, Okay, really strong guard, really strong player, not

1119
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 8: a plus athlete, but a fine play. This is one

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Speaker 8: of these guys that is going to stick in the

1121
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 8: league for a while. And you got him, you know,

1122
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 8: off the street. And if this is a guy that

1123
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Speaker 8: ends up in the practice squad. It really won't surprise

1124
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 8: me if another team signed him. There's there's like Mike

1125
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 8: Edwards from Campbell's another name that a lot of people

1126
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 8: don't know. But for a guy his size three hundred

1127
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 8: and forty pounds, three and thirty pounds, he can really

1128
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Speaker 8: move and I was surprised he wasn't drafted. I think

1129
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Speaker 8: he's going to be a guy that sticks in the

1130
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 8: league as well. So this is what a good scouting

1131
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 8: staff does. They they pick the guys they need to pick,

1132
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 8: and when when the free agency rolls around after the draft,

1133
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 8: they've been in conversation with these guys for a long

1134
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 8: time before the draft ends, they're able to convince them, hey,

1135
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 8: come here, we'll give you a shot to make the

1136
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 8: roster and that's all you can do. So they've done

1137
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 8: a really good job both during and after the draft.

1138
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Bothroyd. Is he like a true edge guy

1139
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: because he's a little bigger, you know, a than a

1140
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, bend the pass rush arc kind of edge.

1141
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: Is he more of like a yeah, setting run stopping

1142
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: guy that offers you some pass rush Like what is

1143
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: his kind of description?

1144
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he's not quite as big as Greg Russau,

1145
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 8: but he's in the same thing. He's not he's not

1146
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 8: a Bendy guide. And and look, there's a lot of

1147
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 8: guys that will get picked because of the flexibility. And look,

1148
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 8: Javon Solomon, which I would who I didn't even talk

1149
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 8: about before, is a shorter guy on the edge, right,

1150
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 8: but he has some flexibility, and he has the strength

1151
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 8: to play through blocks and avoid blocks. He's got a

1152
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 8: nice euro step. And so I mean, these guys can

1153
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 8: win in different ways, and you're really looking for guys

1154
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 8: that can win in whatever way they can to hold

1155
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage, to do to do their assignment

1156
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 8: in whatever way they can do. And I think Barter

1157
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 8: is a guy that can hold the line very well.

1158
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 8: And if you try to escape to the sideline, he

1159
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 8: has enough athleticism to go get you or at least,

1160
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 8: you know, allow the linebacker to come get you. He's

1161
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 8: got he can do some things to help you, as

1162
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 8: you know, coming in sub packages and if injuries hit.

1163
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: That that kind of thing.

1164
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: One of the things about the draft, two teams trying

1165
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: to pick from the same pool of players, all of

1166
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: whom have different needs. Some are in dire straits and

1167
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: others are just trying to put the cherry on top

1168
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: of the cake. Who are the big Who are the

1169
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: teams that came the furthest And I know that there

1170
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: are some teams like like Minnesota and Chicago who had

1171
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: multiple first rounders, who got some really really talented guys.

1172
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: What are some teams that really managed it very well

1173
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: and who do who are tangibly better today than they

1174
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: were a week ago.

1175
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 8: Well, the one team that when people ask me going

1176
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 8: into the draft, which team needs to hit a home run,

1177
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 8: and to me, it was Arizona because they've been stuck

1178
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 8: in this run of mediocrity for a long time and

1179
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 8: they need to take that next step to compete in

1180
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 8: the NFC, in the for the NFC title, and you know,

1181
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 8: getting the guys that they got, they had a lot

1182
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 8: of picks coming in and they decided, hey, we're not

1183
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 8: going to trade down. You know, from four, we're going

1184
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 8: to take Marvin Harrison, We're going to take Darius Robinson

1185
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 8: at the end of the first round. That ed rusher

1186
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 8: Trey Benson in the third round was a pick that

1187
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 8: I had forecast in my seven round mock draft. I'm

1188
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 8: taking Trey Benson. So they did a lot of great things.

1189
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 8: And if Kyler Murray and the can stay healthy and

1190
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 8: these guys make improvements, this is an Arizona team that

1191
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 8: can get up to the playoff contention this year. And

1192
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 8: they have to because they've just been stuck in a

1193
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 8: rut for too long and they need to make that

1194
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 8: next step.

1195
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, Chad, we thank you for the

1196
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: insight on that. We appreciate it, and we'll keep an

1197
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: eye out for the undrafted to be made official next week.

1198
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, people are already interested in Frank Gore junior,

1199
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: as you can understand. He did spend a season here.

1200
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: The senior that is.

1201
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed that their careers are only about three

1202
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: yards apart or three years apart from one another.

1203
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 8: I know, I know, and he's you know, he's a

1204
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 8: guy that's not a great athlete, but like his father,

1205
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 8: teams are gonna wish that probably they took him in

1206
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 8: this draft or you know, thought of him a little

1207
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 8: sooner because because he's a really solid back that's going

1208
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 8: to play in the league for law.

1209
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: Right, Chad, thanks has always appreciate the time.

1210
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 8: Thank you, guys, for having me on.

1211
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: All right, that's Chad Rider, NFL dot Com researcher and

1212
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: draft analyst. Yeah, he had a seven round mock draft,

1213
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: which to me is an insane project. Yeah, and he

1214
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: had three hits for the Bills picks. I mean not

1215
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: all in the exact same spot, but three of the

1216
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: players the Bills drafted he had in his seven round

1217
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: mock going to the Bills.

1218
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: Well, by being a little bit facetious, but you'd never

1219
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: know he was insane just by talking to him, like

1220
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: we did. That's one roundnock. Is enough?

1221
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Like seven rounds going through two hundred and fifty eight

1222
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: some odd picks. Good lord, And he hit three. He

1223
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: asked him how long that takes? How long do you

1224
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: think that takes to do that?

1225
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: It's gotta be weeks.

1226
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: You got to be hitting that for two or three days, Right,

1227
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: you're not doing that. That's not a one nighter.

1228
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not even an all nighter. That's more

1229
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: than that. I Yeah, that's it's it's impossible. It's it's

1230
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: literally impossible to undertake. And yeah, and the thing that

1231
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: you know obviously throws all these mock drafts crazy, as

1232
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, you got four picks in the first four

1233
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: trades in the first round. You got three trades or

1234
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 1: five trades in the second round whatever, or ten trade?

1235
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 5: What was it like?

1236
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: It was like ten trades, wasn't it in the second

1237
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: round of this?

1238
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: Ten trades in the second round? Only four in the first.

1239
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: So your mock goes out the window and down the tubes.

1240
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: But even having said that, he got three guys for

1241
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills on the money, that's that in and

1242
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: of itself is impressive. You would think you'd get three

1243
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: guys league wide in one of any seven or eight

1244
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: picks they had in the draft, you get one guy

1245
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: for them, and that would always be one or two

1246
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: first pick, right, So it's it's pretty impressive that he

1247
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: got three guys for the Bills. That you know, he

1248
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: mocked to him.

1249
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: Now you heard Chad mention Ulafotio and how he liked

1250
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: him as a linebacker. And our good friend Dane Brugler,

1251
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: who puts together the most comprehensive draft guide I've ever seen.

1252
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: The beast. I've got the page on Ulafotio and what

1253
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: he wrote about. First of all, as we mentioned, he's

1254
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: only six foot and a half inch two hundred and

1255
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: thirty six pounds, but he ran a four to five six,

1256
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: had a thirty nine and a half inch vertical, and

1257
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: had a four to three to three short shuttle, which

1258
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: is pretty good. Also benched twenty one reps on two

1259
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: twenty five and that's with thirty three inch arms. This

1260
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 2: is how Dane Brugler describes his strengths. Swarms to the

1261
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: football like a moth to a flame, swiftly reads his

1262
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: keys and adjusts his sightlines appropriately to get a jump

1263
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: on plays. Flashes, lateral burst, and the range to influence

1264
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: multiple zones. Long arms and strong aggressive hands come in

1265
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: handy when disengaging from blocks or finishing tackles. Shows a

1266
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: natural feel in zone coverage that's important in a Bill's defense.

1267
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: Communicates well, makes a lot of pre snap calls. Voted

1268
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: as Senior Captain, described by his teammates as a positive

1269
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: and infectious leader and the type of person guys want

1270
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: to be around. Former walk on and was named the

1271
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: He won an award that went to the most inspirational

1272
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: Huskies players voted by the players. He was a regular

1273
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: on kick return and punt return coverages last season and

1274
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: had a block punt which is on our highlight reel

1275
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: that our msgvs are just watching right now. Started every

1276
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: game as a super senior after missing the previous two

1277
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: years to injury.

1278
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nine point six to seven raw athletics score on

1279
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: a scale of ten.

1280
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: So that's good.

1281
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: He's got enough physical tools and yeah he's short. That's it.

1282
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: Everything else check that's the negative. Everything else checks out big.

1283
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you that that's when you watch

1284
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: him play. Yeah, that's that's what kind of jumps at you.

1285
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: And I know this too. We're kind of getting used

1286
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: to this Brownie and I you watch Brandon Bean and

1287
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: McDermott and these scouts and all the guys that they

1288
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: seem to produce out of every draft. They you know,

1289
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: they start to get this well that DNA thing about them.

1290
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: They all, you know, they're all from the from the

1291
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: same family of players, you know. I mean they high motor,

1292
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: their teammates love them, and then physical traits. Yeah, and

1293
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: so you know, and every they all have a specific

1294
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: mix of all those things.

1295
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: So Chad Ryder, the guy we just had on from

1296
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: NFL dot Com, he gave the Bills a B plus

1297
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: grade overall Day one grade of B Day two grade

1298
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: of A minus day three grade of A. You get

1299
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: a grade of B and you don't even pick anybody

1300
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: on day one. That's pretty good.

1301
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: Well, he that's because he liked that's because he liked

1302
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: the tradeouts. Yeah, you get, you move up and get

1303
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: so much value for those picks and still get the

1304
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: exact guy you knew you were going to you wanted

1305
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: to pick if you would have stayed put, and then

1306
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: to add those valued picks up in you know, in

1307
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: addition to that, it's just a smart move. And I'll

1308
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: say this, the only reason people would even throw a

1309
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: dart at what the Bills did was because they don't

1310
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: like Keon Coleman. They liked Xavier Worthy better better, or

1311
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Xavier leg Get better, or Ricky Pearsol one of the

1312
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: they liked him better. Uh, the Bills didn't. And you

1313
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: got and what are you gonna do? You can, So

1314
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to you know, and hard

1315
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: to criticize it. They're the ones that got to live

1316
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: with the pick and they got the guy they wanted. Yeah,

1317
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: the eighth receiver off the board. Yeah, what do you

1318
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: think about it?

1319
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 4: Though?

1320
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: You try? What do we see in Keyon Coleman why

1321
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: didn't we like him? Well, he was he's young. Okay.

1322
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: He was really productive at Michigan State, really productive at

1323
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: Florida State. But he's young.

1324
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that you kind of run out

1325
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: of things slow forty times, slow forty time, plays faster

1326
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 3: slow forty time, faster over here in this other drill

1327
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: that they're doing, it's he fast over here, looks fast

1328
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: on film.

1329
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: He's jumping over people on the field.

1330
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: Thirty eight inch vertical. Yeah, so how about that he's

1331
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 2: got a thirty eight inch vertical U Lafohio thirty nine

1332
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: and a half should set up a rec league.

1333
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: We all have our favorites, and I didn't pick. I

1334
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: certainly didn't. Keon Coleman wasn't on my radar. I'll be

1335
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: the first to tell you that I thought it was

1336
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Legat or you know, we all had thought

1337
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. The closer we got to the draft,

1338
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: the less likely it became. Brownie had Brian Thomas Junior

1339
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: on the whiteboard months ago, and he was ahead of

1340
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: the curve.

1341
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: Problem is too many people liked him.

1342
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: Well, they were just like you.

1343
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: The one other thing that uh, Chad Ryder wrote in

1344
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: his write up that I liked reading Ray Davis's tenacity

1345
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: as a runner is the perfect compliment to James Cook. Yeah,

1346
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 2: telling you it's gonna be a lot of steam built

1347
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 2: up for Ray Davis by the time we get to

1348
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: training camp.

1349
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: Let's go. Man, bless his heart. Man, I hope he

1350
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: comes out and does all that stuff. You know, you

1351
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: wish the best for these guys, not just because they're

1352
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: on your team, but can you find out what kind

1353
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: of guy there? You read their bios and where they

1354
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: came from and what they've been through, and yeah, it's fun.

1355
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a very easy guy to read.

1356
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, that's not just the Bills,

1357
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: that's across the league. You get these guys coming out

1358
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: of college and they've all got a unique story, and

1359
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes, unfortunately the ones that don't have that

1360
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: unique story, that's the one that drops down the board,

1361
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, ad Mitchell plummeted from being what

1362
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: looked like a top pick two not so much. And

1363
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: it was that was because of his backstory.

1364
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, character concern. Yeah, he slipped all the way to

1365
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: pick fifty two when he was thought by many to

1366
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: be a top twenty five pick, so he went twice

1367
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: as late as everybody thought he would. Daikwon Hardy Chad

1368
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: Ryder mentioned as a bonafide punt return candidate for the

1369
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: Bills right out of the shoot, fresh out of the box,

1370
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: and I remember reading this over the weekend when I

1371
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: was still doing work. Here one Bill's drive on Saturday

1372
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: for Day three. I looked him up and he had

1373
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: a very storied high school career in Pittsburgh playing for

1374
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: Penn Hills, which he led to a state championship in

1375
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen with an undefeated sixteen to oh record. He

1376
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: produced a four touchdown performance in the state title game.

1377
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: He had a twenty seven yard catch, a seventy four

1378
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: yard catch, one hundred yard interception return, and an eighty

1379
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: four yard kickoff return in the same game, and then

1380
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: went on to win State Player of the Year honors.

1381
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: I wonder why the only thing you didn't do was

1382
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: throw one interception return, kick return and two touchdown catches

1383
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: and throw one or run one in. I mean, my god,

1384
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: that's unbelievable. And look, I know it's high school.

1385
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: But still coaches on the other side of the d

1386
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: who is that.

1387
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: That's a good day. Who is that guy?

1388
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: He's killing us?

1389
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you ever top that day.

1390
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: That's an unbelievable day. I mean, getting drafted my topic.

1391
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: But man, that is something else. I love reading this

1392
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: stuff about these guys.

1393
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Oh some of the stuff

1394
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: is this guy did what he like? Wait? Wait? Wait?

1395
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: What you know the most? In this day and age,

1396
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: you feel like you should hear about all that stuff somewhere?

1397
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: Yes, the most ridiculous one. If you ever want to

1398
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: just laugh out loud, go look up Derrick Henry's high

1399
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 2: school rushing totals if you want to laugh, just outright

1400
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: laugh out loud, because they're so ridiculous you can't even

1401
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: believe they're real.

1402
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: Think about it. I mean, because I mean, I played

1403
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: high school football at one hundred and forty seven pounds.

1404
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: This just in Derrick Henry didn't. He was so big

1405
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: and so fast you had you know, you guys are

1406
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: turning down chances to tackle him.

1407
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: So if you had to guess how many rushing yards

1408
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry had in high school, what would be your answer?

1409
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: And total rushing yard in four years.

1410
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: Of high school, I will say I will say something

1411
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand yards.

1412
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: You're actually over twelve twenty four years.

1413
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: So we had four three thousand yard seasons.

1414
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, there were. His senior year, he averaged three

1415
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards rushing game.

1416
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: Three twenty seven rushing a game.

1417
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: It's just so stupid.

1418
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:04,799
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1419
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: I mean, could you imagine what that looked like every week?

1420
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: Parents probably didn't even go to games, like, wait, we

1421
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: gotta watch it run over people again, that's no fun.

1422
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: Those are the games you go to when your team's

1423
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, ridiculous.

1424
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess how many touchdowns he had in his senior year?

1425
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: Out of how many games? Can tell me how many games?

1426
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: Thirteen games? How many touchdowns did Derrick Henry have?

1427
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: Sixty fifty five.

1428
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: In thirteen games? He had one hundred and fifty three

1429
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: touchdowns in his career. Oh my god, it's so ridiculous, crazy.

1430
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: You know how many receiving touchdowns he had?

1431
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: Zero?

1432
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: Zero?

1433
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: Why why throw? Why throw it to it? Just put

1434
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: it in his hands, Just get it to him. And

1435
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: it's the fastest, easiest way to get it to him.

1436
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: Is too God, Jill, it's good for a laugh every time.

1437
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: Twelve thousand rushing yards. Oh my gosh. And I mean

1438
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: he's running from the jump like from his freshman year,

1439
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: played eleven games, twenty four hundred and sixty five yards.

1440
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: Good god, he's just amazing.

1441
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's freakish.

1442
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: Think tell me this, you think Derek right now, Derrick

1443
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: Henry Hall of Famer, it's got to be in the commerce.

1444
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: I think he's close. Yeah, I think he's very close.

1445
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: I think he's got a really good chance because he's

1446
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: always a Titan first. Always, you know, complete whole career

1447
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: is a Titan. Well, yeah, now he's with the Ravens, right,

1448
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean?

1449
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I think more importantly, he was a dominant running

1450
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: back in an era where the game went to the air, right, still,

1451
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: ridiculously deductive running back in an arrow where everybody was

1452
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: throwing the ball. I mean, he was an anomaly.

1453
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: He was an absolutely different, absolute difference maker. So yeah,

1454
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: I'm good for him, But that's crazy.

1455
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here. When we come back,

1456
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: we'll see what you have to say about who is

1457
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: the sleeper in the Bill's draft class on the tweet sheet,

1458
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: and if we have time, maybe a little NFL true

1459
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,559
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1460
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on One

1461
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and kind

1462
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: of crack open the tweet sheet to see who you

1463
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 2: feel is the sleeper in Buffalo's twenty twenty four draft

1464
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: class tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1465
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

1466
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: Mickey chimes in with Van Pran Granger could be a starter,

1467
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: so he may be the sleeper of the group. Other

1468
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: guys have a chance to contribute, whether depth or teams.

1469
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: I really like this draft class. One more class like

1470
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: this next year and the Bills have a super team,

1471
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: super Bowl or bust. Mickey's feeling optimistic.

1472
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm they have. We always get the odd caller

1473
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: who calls in and just drags Brandon Bean about the

1474
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: way he drafts like he's never drafted a good guy.

1475
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: And except for except for Josh and I don't know

1476
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: where they I disagree. Uh, Brandon has done. This team

1477
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: is where it is in large measure to the players

1478
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: they have playing on it and what Sean McDermott gets

1479
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: out of those players and your assertion and observation about

1480
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: what other teams think about the bottoms of our roster,

1481
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: where we've got our guys that are in our practice

1482
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: squad can't get on the field or going to other

1483
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: teams and not just staying there. They're getting extended, and

1484
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: it tells you all you want to know about the

1485
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: work this personnel department does. And I think the way

1486
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: they handled last Thursday's draft trading out of the first

1487
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: round is another example of how they know what the

1488
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: draft is, how it's supposed to work, and what you

1489
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: got to do to be successful there. You got to

1490
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: know the players, You got to know your own needs.

1491
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: You got to know as much as you can about

1492
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: what the other teams are gonna do, and be willing

1493
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: to go up or down to get a guy. And

1494
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: he has done now, particularly with this year added into

1495
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: what he's done in years past, they've done it all

1496
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: and they've gotten really good value up and down their

1497
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: draft classes every almost every single year, almost every single year.

1498
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: From seventeen for MVP, they go with Javon Solomon sixteen sacks.

1499
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 2: Last year. Yes, I know it's the Sunbelt Conference, but

1500
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: still not to mention I can also think of another

1501
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: edge rusher who went to Troy. He must be talking

1502
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: about you, Ocumnura, who is a Troy product. Where did

1503
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: play for the Giants? Yeah, really successful pass rusher. So

1504
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: that's a good reference, Jess says Cole Bishop. He's probably

1505
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: a backup right now, but he reminds me of Poyer.

1506
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: The way he can play anywhere on the field. Looks

1507
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: like an explosive tackler with the ability to get picks

1508
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: go Bills. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny that Jess mentions

1509
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: that because I saw a little bit of Poyer and

1510
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: Bishop too, watching his tape before the draft, which kind

1511
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: of put him on my radar, you know. And then

1512
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: they talked to him at the Senior Bowl. They sat

1513
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: down and interviewed him at the combine, so you knew

1514
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: that he was on the Bills radar as well. But yeah,

1515
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of Poyer in him. I would

1516
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: say that I don't know if their games completely match up,

1517
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: but there are some elements of his game that I

1518
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: think do run parallel to that of Jordan Poyer's game.

1519
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems you know, it's he sticks his nose in.

1520
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch his film for any length of time.

1521
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: And that's what you notice. I guy's in on the

1522
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: ball all the time, making tackles, getting guys to the

1523
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: edge of the field, stepping up into the gap. He's

1524
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: not afraid of the contact. And in this day and age,

1525
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of an important trade these days, because you

1526
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: don't spend time talking tackling in the offseason, and you

1527
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: need a guy who can do it because you want

1528
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: guys to be able to stay on the field in

1529
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: different situations. And certainly Bishop seems to be one of

1530
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: those guys who the physicality up in the box. He's

1531
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: just as comfortable there as he is playing in space

1532
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:40,959
Speaker 1: out on the secondary.

1533
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: Matt on the tweets, she says Solomon, I'll bet he

1534
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: leads the team in sacks in twenty twenty five, big

1535
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: baller being got a steal in the fifth leading sacker

1536
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.

1537
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: Not this year, but next year, okay, projection, Hey, all right,

1538
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Yeah, for a fifth rounder, let's go.

1539
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: I just hope he doesn't lead this team in sacks

1540
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: with four.

1541
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: Well, yes, again, I will agree with that too.

1542
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean leading the team and having a fifteen sax season.

1543
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: We don't have to be the same thing.

1544
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not too far removed from the leading sacker

1545
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: on this team having six sacks, right, only a couple

1546
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: of years removed from that from the Duke of Blaisdell.

1547
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: Cedric van Pran Granger, a three year starter or an

1548
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: SEC school that gets drafted in round five has something

1549
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: to prove. He is my sleeper and eventually the next

1550
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 2: can tall Well, hold on a second, now we're talking

1551
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: really big. I mean I liked the pick as much

1552
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: as anybody. Well he has talking about the best center up.

1553
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, his skill set, his skill set is a little

1554
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: bit reminiscent of Kent's. How so smart and mature. Kent

1555
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: was that way. He wasn't the best athlete either, although

1556
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: he was as a kid he was a really good athlete.

1557
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: But you know, he got and got heavy enough to

1558
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: play center in the NFL USFL for a cup of coffee.

1559
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: He gets to Buffalo and really fell in just the

1560
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: perfect time, right situation, and and you know Kent flourished here,

1561
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: and you know it was a was an absolute foundational

1562
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: piece on a pillar of a team that went to

1563
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: four straight Super bowls. Now Cedric van prin Granger may

1564
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: be that kind of player. It's a it's a whole

1565
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: high marked, you know, high bart to set. But that's

1566
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: his characteristic. The maturity, the intelligence and certainly the chops

1567
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: to play in big moments seemed to be his and that,

1568
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's the hallmark of Kent's game as well.

1569
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: Joseph on the tweets sheet says Van Prian Granger will

1570
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: be the starting center at some point this season because

1571
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: he earned it, not due to injury. Also, I feel Solomon,

1572
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: coming from an FCS school, is very underrated. Get him

1573
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: on the field with Grout and Miller, teach him up.

1574
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 2: He should explode. That is an option if you want

1575
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: to go that way. You can kick Rousseau inside, you know,

1576
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 2: if Solomon really impresses and you want to get him

1577
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 2: out there for some designated obvious passing down situations.

1578
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they put Rousseau down inside because of his length

1579
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: and he can get up the field, and he put

1580
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: him in there with Ed who's explosive and fast, and

1581
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: then he put von on one side and Solomon on

1582
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, you've got some guys who can bend,

1583
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: and there's certainly gonna be situations where you're not in

1584
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: the least bit worried about him turning around handing it

1585
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: off in those heat a third and thirteen. You're not,

1586
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, put those guys, you know, put the track

1587
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: team out there.

1588
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: Right, go turbo. Uh. Next up is Seth who says

1589
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: hardy he's gonna be hester two point zero Hall of

1590
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: Fame return man. I'd love it. Hopefully he doesn't have

1591
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: to play regular down in distance. Yeah, I mean de

1592
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Kwon Harr he is. He's a little guy. I mean,

1593
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: he's probably only a slot corner on defense. You know,

1594
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: he's about five eight, five nine and one hundred and

1595
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: eighty pounds. Not a big dude. He plays big. You know,

1596
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't mind contact, but he's just not a big dude.

1597
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 2: And with the size of receivers these days outside, I

1598
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: think that's a tough ask. Who knows. Maybe he proves

1599
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 2: me wrong, but the Bills typically like longer guys outside anyway. Yeah,

1600
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean is pretty much confirmed that. You know, he's

1601
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: he's a nickel. He's a slot guy.

1602
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got the athleticism to be inside where

1603
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: the receiver normally has an inside or outside release. You

1604
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: can't you know, if you're an outside receiver and it's

1605
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: the defender has the freedom to give you one or

1606
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: the other. He can take one away from you right away.

1607
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: As a sloughter defender, you kind of have to you

1608
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: get head up on the guy. He can go inside

1609
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: or outside on the release, and you have to have

1610
01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: some real athleticism and some and some quicks to defend there.

1611
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, his athleticism says Yeah, he's a slot guy,

1612
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: and his size also says that. Yeah.

1613
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Josh on the tweet seat says, tweet Sheet says, Ray Davis.

1614
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: Dude looks like the real deal and I love his story. Yeah,

1615
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: he's I told you he's gonna be easy. Got root

1616
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: for Steve?

1617
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, well, Bills fans have no shortage

1618
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: of people to root for now.

1619
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: Will Will on the tweet Sheet says Solomon reminds me

1620
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: of Vaughn. If he can bring him under his wing

1621
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: and work with him, I think we got Von Miller Jr. Wow,

1622
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: that's people are getting excited here, Okay, macho man. Josh

1623
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: Savage says Hardy he could be the new punt returner,

1624
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: kick returner and dime corner. Yeah, I mean I think

1625
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: right now, he's he's definitely in the running to be

1626
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: the team's punt returner this year. So as he demonstrates

1627
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:56,919
Speaker 2: ball security back there, his athleticism and dynamism on returns

1628
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: in his time at Penn State, I mean it's pretty good.

1629
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1630
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Turn him loose.

1631
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Uh, thanks for all the contributions there on the tweet sheet.

1632
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 2: We have to take a break when we come back.

1633
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: One segment to go, I gotta talk to Steve about

1634
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 2: my odgita that I'm gonna have tonight for what a

1635
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: little NBA playoffs. Uh, we'll discuss that when we return

1636
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right. One

1637
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: segment to go here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve

1638
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: Tasker with you gonna hop back on the phones here

1639
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: as we've been asking you for your sleeper picks all

1640
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: day long from the Bills draft class. But we go

1641
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: to Ryan and Albany next. Let me pull him up here.

1642
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: What we got for us? Ryan? Hi doing?

1643
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 7: I'm jumping in late to the show, but I I

1644
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 7: want to talk about Coleman reaching out Andre Reid. If

1645
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 7: you have an insider from Ashan madd is he possibly

1646
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 7: looking for like help like molds of helping Shakir, and

1647
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 7: how beneficial could it be for Molds to be working

1648
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 7: with one guy and Andre to be working with another guy,

1649
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 7: if that's what he could do, And does that step

1650
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 7: on like the toes of the wide receivers coach even

1651
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 7: though it's like offseason workouts possibly, or do the wide

1652
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 7: receivers coach like welcome any help that the players can offer.

1653
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: I think Keon reached out with the way I understand it.

1654
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Keon reached out to Dre because just out of respect

1655
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,560
Speaker 1: and saying, Hey, I'm going to your spot and I

1656
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: know where the club is and I know your history

1657
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: with the club.

1658
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: I think it was more like that, what do I

1659
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: need to know about playing in Buffalo?

1660
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: What do I need to know? And and all these

1661
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: guys have somebody who trains most of them, not all

1662
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: of them. Most of these guys have a guy who

1663
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: trains him. The fact that Eric has trained training Shakir

1664
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: is probably a little bit of happenstance. I don't know

1665
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: that it would have changed had Shakir been playing for

1666
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: anybody else. They got a relationship, so certainly it's it

1667
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that if you're

1668
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: coming into a new environment to reach out to the

1669
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: guys who have been through the environment and ask him how,

1670
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, how what about it? And to have a

1671
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: guy who has done it at the highest level teach

1672
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: you how to do it right. So that's that's both

1673
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: those guys.

1674
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get the sense. And Andre's gonna.

1675
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: Be yeah, Andre's yeah, Andre's not coaching him.

1676
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Steve, you're gonna have to help me with my odditive

1677
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: tonight watching Game six Nick six ers after they blew

1678
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Game five. Game doesn't start till nine. I'm not gonna

1679
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 2: make it. I know.

1680
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: It's one of those games.

1681
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 2: It's a late one because they got Bucks pacers before it.

1682
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: Well, we'll be there, we'll be there.

1683
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: They got to pull this thing out. We'll see you

1684
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: tomorrow one o'clock for a Friday edition obl Fan Friday Mailbag.

1685
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 2: Don't miss it.

1686
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 7: He