1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm that for me. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: be happy. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Edith State? 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoom? 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye. 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Soliburbo boys and girls. My name 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always over there 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: in New York City. My man Dan Urubinstein, Sir, how 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: are you? 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: Ty What do I have to complain about? I hear 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: the dulcet tones of Pennsylvania podcasting legend Tye hilden Brands. 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I've got my green tea with a little bit of 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: honey for the old instrument tie, and I just I 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: snuck in a chocolate covered a frozen chocolate cover of strawberry. 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: Give me that vitamin C. 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Living dangerously in New York City. 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have quite the week ahead of us, 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: don't we. 22 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Week five is loaded to the gills, Daniel. It looks 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: like sure one of our better weeks of college football here, 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: at least in the early going. Who knows how things 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: are going to shake out moving forward, but yeah, I'm 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm pretty pumped to see how all this goes down 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: this weekend. 28 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: You've got your annual Stanford Notre Dame possible complete meltdown 29 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: when David Shaw is just I still am bitter by 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: the way Brian Kelly is only beaten. This might be 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: wrong and that could be like a sub heading for 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the show in general. Brian Kelly has only beaten David 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Shaw once. 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: I am looking here. 35 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Just the Stephen Taylor game that he I think was 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: still across. 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: I see one in two thousand and two. 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: He was also there in twenty fourteen when they won, 40 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: so he's won at least two. 41 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly was there in two thousand and two in 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Notre Dame twenty twelve. Excuse me, okay, was just to 43 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: say listen, yes, okay. So one of them was real close. 44 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: One of them I think was the overtime seven. So 45 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: David Shaw has best to him thus far. So we'll 46 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: get into how your emotions are with that. I think 47 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: across the country, each power conference, even some group of 48 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: five conferences, I think very intriguing matchups this week. 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Well, we've got some news to 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: discuss here on the podcast. The transfer markets seemingly open 51 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: for business in and around the world of college football. 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: A list of names here that I want to walk 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: through and break down what their transfer means, just very 54 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: quickly before we get into just a loaded slate of 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Week five games here, Dan. 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So the big one as we record this Wednesday, 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: late afternoon early evening Eastern time, is Kelly Bryant has 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: informed Dabo Sweeney, head coach Clemson that he will be 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: moving on to greener pastures as a grad transfer. Yeah, 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: does have his degree from Clemson, and so he is 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: eligible to immediately start this weekend. Is that how the 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: rules work? No, he is immediately eligible to start year 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: at whatever destination he ends up choosing. I don't know 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: how ACC treats grad transfers. I know SEC was skittish 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: about inter conference grad transfers at one point, But in 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: any case, I would imagine there will be a a 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: healthy market for Kelly Bryants services next year. Among we 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: have some other names. Devin Modster at UCLA, who was 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: thought to be in the quarterback race before losing out 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: to now Dorian Thompson Robinson Tdje Griffin from Oregon, a 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: highly regarded running back recruit who I want to say 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: he might be fourth maybe fifth on the running back 73 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: depth chart at this point. Jalen McCleskey, who's been very, 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: very good for Oklahoma State at receiver these past couple 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: of years. Nate Craig Myers has made some big catches 76 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: for Auburn. Jonathan Nance, a receiver out of Arkansas. So 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: not insignificant names that are looking for new homes for sure. 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: Well, it is that time of year. I'm struck by 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: the Kelly Bryant move. Not because what were your thoughts 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: with that? Well, I mean, it doesn't come as any surprise, 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: but it just seemed like he just went. There wasn't 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: a back and forth. Kelly Bryant just like stopped practicing 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: and then two days later announced that he's out. So 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: I was struck by the immediacy of that and how 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: rightly he decided to transfer away. That being said, if 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: you've looked at the numbers side by side of Trevor 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Lawrence's effectiveness as Clemson quarterback versus Kelly Bryant's effectiveness, it's 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: obvious on paper, Dan, why you'd go Trevor Lawrence over 89 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant. But still, the immediacy of him leaving to 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 2: me is what I think jumped out the most. 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kelly Bryant's been good. Kelly Bryant was the 92 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: reason Clemson beat Texas A and m ultimately he made 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: those big plays down the stretch. And I thought Dabbo 94 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: handled this as well as anybody could, especially in light 95 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: of Nebraska losing what a sophomore quarterback, red shirt freshman quarterback, 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: whoever lost the job? Adrian Martinez took over that job 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: as a true freshman. Tristan Jebia, I don't know how 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: to pronounce. So he went to my high school. That's 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: all I know. And so obviously in Nebrasol's quarterback room, 100 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: and they have many more problems than that. Is particularly 101 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: thin after that last second move before the season started. 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: So Dabbo sees this brewing situation between Kelly Bryan Trevor Lawrence, 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence coming in with all everything the future 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: of Clemson, if not football in general, and he starts 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant to begin the season. He gives him plenty 106 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: of reps, he counts on him in crunch time, and 107 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: it's tough because you see the quotes from Kelly Bryant saying, 108 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, I did everything I was asked to I 109 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: never got in trouble. I was a good teammate. I 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: felt I was a good leader, and all of that 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: is true from what we know. Sure, and sometimes you 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: just get beat out. 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you get beat out. And yeah, I mean, 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: look what Trevor Lawrence was recruited by and eventually committed 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: to Clemson. This was already the scuttle butt like, yeah, 116 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: we know this kid has a really high ceiling and 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant could be perfectly serviceable. It's obvious that Trevor 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: Lawrence gives more, and so far the numbers would seemingly 119 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: prove that out. 120 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: So I wonder, I wonder what it would look like 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: if Kelly Bryant were awesome in a losing effort against 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Alabama last year in the play I wonder what the 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: perception of Bryant is. You know, he plays well in 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: the a SEC championship game. You know, he has the 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: injury that eventually leads to poor play and a loss 126 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: against Syracuse, ultimately not stopping them in the acc or 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: getting themselves to the playoff. But I wonder what the 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: perception and it has to be enormous. It took the 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: best ever quarterback at Clemson to win the national championship. 130 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: So the bar is pretty high to get Clemson over 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: that Alabama hump. 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: That does it for transfers. I want to jump right 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: into the picks. If you're cool with that, should we 134 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: do it? Just get right in jump let's get wet. Okay, 135 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: all right, we have we got We got numerous picks 136 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: of the week here by voices cracking. 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So yes, 156 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: it is adjustable for all of you seven and seven 157 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and eighths types tie fair. 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: Enough, okay, And also, don't forget we're out there on 159 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 2: social media on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. We've got a subreddit, Reddit, 160 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: dot com, slash r slash solid verbal and give us 161 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: a call this weekend as you're watching the game's four 162 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: eight verbal one, four eight verbal one one more time 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: is the phone number. Let us know what goes through 164 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: your mind stream of consciousness if you want. As all 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: of these games are transpiring now, the one thing I 166 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: would point out very just very very equipment. I don't 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: think you got a great window this weekend, all right, 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: cause personally, and I can only speak for myself here, 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: I think the high noon game noon Eastern on ESPN 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: two between West Virginia and Texas Tech is going to 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: be a damn shootout and it's going to be fun as. 172 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Hell for sure. 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: However, how how we must miss any segment of Saturday. 174 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I think you are pretty wide open. Like, if you're 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: worst to choose, I would make sure you're back in 176 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: time by like seven thirty Eastern time, because that's when 177 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: it really gets crazy with Ohio State, Penn State, Stanford, 178 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: Notre Dame BYU Washington could have some interesting tidbits in 179 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: it the late game. I'm very curious to get your 180 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: take on Oregon at col so. I think it gets 181 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: better later throughout the course of the day. 182 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I will say this, though, Ty, if you don't have 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: anything to do and you are keen on watching the 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: noon urs, like I will be well, forget about Alabama, Louisiana, 185 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: Lafayette unless tie you are stricken, unless you are stricken 186 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: with tow a fever. 187 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Sure sure, which, by the way, we do have a 188 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: sound for that. 189 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: We do have a south. 190 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah that the most optimistic projection for the spread of 191 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: the virus is this twenty four hours, thirty six hours, 192 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: forty eight hours. 193 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Is that Donald Sutherland and outbreakd in Hell? Yeah, it's 194 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Donald Sutherland to a fever, A little touch of the 195 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: islands there. 196 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I like it. Good work, thank you. So Outside of 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: that game, but Syracuse Clemson Syracuse very quiet far and 198 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: out time, very quiet for and no revenge spot for Clemson. 199 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: They have Trevor Lawrence and some beans and seeds in 200 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback room. I don't know, Okay, we'll see what 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: happens with Syracuse and healthy quarterback. I am also like, 202 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna watch a lot of army Buffalo, 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: but those are two two kind of frisky teams. Buffalo 204 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: another quiet far out Okay, very Oklahoma State, Kansas Virginia, 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: NC State. I'm just saying thy all right, Okay, these 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: peanuts are spicier than you think. 207 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Very enough, Okay, high noon on ESPN TOWO. We just 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: talked about it. But it is West Virginia the Mountaineers 209 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: traveling to Lubbock to square off against Texas Tech and Danielle. 210 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see some points in this game. 211 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I would zoom so based on what British 212 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: comedy legend quarterback Alan Bowman for Texas Tech has done 213 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: these past couple of weeks for the Red Raiders and 214 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: what their defense suddenly was able to do last tear. Yeah, 215 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: and also the fact that Will Greer, though not necessarily 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: opponent tested yet I were fairly confident has one of, 217 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: if not the highest ceilings is a pure passer to 218 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: a fever. Nonwithstanding, and Texas Tech defense, we believe big picture, 219 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: it's still kind of tasty. 220 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's cut to the chase here. The point 221 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: spread is three and a half in favor of West Virginia. 222 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: For me, this is a situation where both teams are 223 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: better than we thought. Like Tech beat Oklahoma State by 224 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: twenty four on the road last week. I didn't see 225 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: that coming at all. They also beat Houston the week before, 226 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: pretty handily, led of course by British comedy legend Alan Bowman, 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: who we've discussed. 228 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: It's a nauseum here in the I think both of 229 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: those wins are better than anything West Virginia has approached. 230 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: I think I would concur with that. I would also 231 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: say that to a discussion point earlier in the year, 232 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: West Virginia's defense has been like a top fifty defense 233 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: or so so far, which you know we're not talking 234 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: about Alabama here, right, But I still think that's better 235 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: than at least you expected before the start of the 236 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: year because you were pretty down on that defensive unit. 237 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, this week will go a long way. Not that 238 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to shut down Texas Tech, and if 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: they do, wow, hell yeah. But if they're able to 240 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: get stops here and there, if they look you know, 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: last week, you know, Kenny Bigelow's looked very good for 242 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: them upfront, David Long made a ton of plays behind him, 243 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and so if West Virginia is able to run with 244 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, TJ. Vash Er, whoever with Texas Tech often enough, 245 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: that will go a long way in a very difficult 246 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: conference to play defense. 247 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: I think it'd be a really great story of Tech 248 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: won this game. It really would be. I just have 249 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: more faith in Woolgreer and the passing offense that's been 250 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: super efficient so far. It also seems to me maybe 251 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm reading too much into some of the interviews and 252 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: quotables that are floating around out there. It feels to 253 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: me like West Virginia has got something to prove this year. 254 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: It really does. 255 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't trust Tech Defense. I still don't. Maybe it's 256 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: like I don't know lingering emotional baggage from years past. 257 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: I just don't trust them. So I am going to 258 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: go West Virginia here. I think a lot of points. 259 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm very skittish about laying any points, but three and 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: a half to me, feels like it's small enough that 261 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: that's coverable for the Mountaineers. So give me the Mountaineers 262 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: on the road here, a lot of points, but a 263 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: nice win for them, home. 264 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Dog in a weird place in a shootout. Give me 265 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: the Red Raiders. Okay, gons up. I do like Texas Tech. Uh, 266 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: not in any sort of convincing way here, but yes, 267 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I think Texas Tech's defense at this point in Kansas 268 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: State's defense may eventually be all right. But it's been 269 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: sort of a nightmare both against Mississippi State and against 270 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: West Virginia, I think. And it's very strange to say this, 271 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: because Texas Tech has given up a lot this year. 272 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: They looked better last week. I think there is something 273 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Thirty eight to thirty four, they give 274 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: up points, but British comedy legend Alan Bowman with a 275 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: very nice day against a West Virginia defense that has 276 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: not seen anywhere near this offense. 277 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Fair enough, Let's move to three point thirty on Fox 278 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Sports one. Lets this is a game between the Texas 279 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Longhorns and Kansas State Wildcats. The point spread was initially seven. 280 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: It has since jumped up I believe to about eight 281 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: and a half at time of recording. My guess is 282 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: part of that is due to the fact that Texas 283 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: had a big win a week ago against TCU. I 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: hate to ask the question again, but I'm going to 285 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: dan is Texas back. 286 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: So they're closer to being back because the TCU hurdle 287 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: was significant. It wasn't a standard what is what is 288 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: the track and field event where there's like the puddle 289 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and you'd have to jump over the mega hurdle? Do 290 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about here? 291 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: Ty? 292 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Oh, right, right, right right, I have to I'm looking 293 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: it up because I'm very steeple chase. Yes, right, so 294 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: we're dealing. Tc has been a steeple chase like hurdle 295 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: for Texas, and for them to not not only clear 296 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: that hurdle, but to do so emphatically makes me believe 297 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: that this team perhaps is more together, buying in a 298 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: little bit more even replacing the parts that they had 299 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: to on defense, that they're they're a more cohesive in 300 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: a more cohesive place. Right now, Kansas State has been 301 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: a bear trap for Texas traditionally, right, can't State. It's 302 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: been a bear trap for Kansas State more recent. 303 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: Well that and that's where I want to go with it, 304 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: because yeah, or as high as I thought we could 305 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: have been at this point on k State, so far, 306 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: they've been very underwhelming. The defense has been bad, the 307 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: offense has been worse. They got crushed by Mississippi State 308 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago, again last week against West Virginia. 309 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Two games, two big games against good teams Mississippi State 310 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: and West Virginia. Really they weren't even competitive, Dan now 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: and now furthermore, if you project out and look at 312 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: our friend Bill Connolly's numbers, he's giving them a three 313 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: percent chance of getting to six wins this year and 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: an outright favorite against only one team of their eight 315 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: remaining games, and that one team is Kansas in State 316 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: Kansas by like a point and a half so thus far. 317 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: If what we've seen from Case State is any indication 318 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: about where they go the rest of the way, which 319 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: may not be the case, but if it is an indication, 320 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: things are looking damn bleak in Manhattan, Kansas. 321 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: And this is a game where and just I want 322 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: to say the word, so you have to play the 323 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: sound because we don't say enough. This would traditionally be 324 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: with Texas having Red River shootout and yes that's what 325 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: it's called the following week. 326 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: It's such a trap, absolutely a trap. But with all 327 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: that being said, with all that as the backdrop, with 328 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: Texas seemingly. 329 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: Went down, look ahead everything, Yeah with Texas. 330 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: Sure, with Texas seemingly looking better and case State looking 331 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: so badly thus far, I am perplexed by this point spread. 332 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm proposed, what is it nine? 333 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: I have it at eight and a half. It could 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: well be nine. Yeah, even still, that feels too low 335 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: to me, and I know it's got a bear trap 336 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: equality to it, But I am still going to go 337 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: with Texas here. I think there's more of a base 338 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: that we can count on at this point even for 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: Texas than Kansas State. So give me the Longhorns. I'm 340 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: gonna lay the points. I'm not going to think twice. 341 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a situation where I'd love to take 342 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: Kansas State because the line feels weird and traditional. I mean, 343 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: these are players that were you know that what they 344 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma State last year. These are players that have 345 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: won significant games. But anybody who is pointing to anything 346 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: specific about the twenty eighteen Kansas State team and saying 347 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: this is why they'll be competitive against Texas. Less Texas 348 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: turns the ball over three four five times, loses the 349 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: turnover battle by that many. I just I can't in 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: good faith out of nowhere. So yeah, I'm gonna taking 351 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: the points Texas minus nine. They're gonna win by a 352 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: couple touchdowns. 353 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: I agree, Okay, seven thirty ABC, This is a bigin. 354 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: This is a bigin Ohio State. The buck Geys on 355 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: the road at Penn State. The line is three and 356 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: a half points in favor of the road team Ohio State. 357 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: First things first, let's talk about Dwayne Haskins. 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: Shall we. Let's what adjectives? 359 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: Can we invent an adjective some sort of modifier that 360 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: encapsulates how well he has performed this season. 361 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: I would describe Dwayne Haskins best as being lethal or like, 362 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, how would you describe like a highly 363 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: trained assassin, like he's had time to sit clinical and wait, Yeah, 364 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: I'd say there's something pretty clinical about Dwayne Haskins. He's 365 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: prototypical almost in that way that he has built perfectly 366 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: to do things that are the best of what Ryan 367 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: Day and Kevin Wilson and Urban Meyer can put together. 368 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 2: He is. 369 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: He is almost their platonic ideal. 370 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: That's a lot of big words, so many words that 371 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: we're throwing around here on early evening Wednesday time of recording, 372 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: But suffice to say, we are four weeks into the 373 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: season and he's got a sixteen to one touchdown to 374 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: interception ratio. He's also completed around seventy six percent of 375 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: his passes. That's very good for a first time starting quarterback. Now, granted, granted, 376 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: not all of those games have been against optimal competition. 377 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: He did play pretty dog one good against TCU, who 378 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: I still think is among the better teams in the nation. 379 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: So he's been very very good so far. Yes, Dwayne Haskins, 380 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: if you're an Ohio State fan, has been a revelation. 381 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: What concerns me here for Penn State is the spots 382 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: that I have seen on defense where they can't stop anyone. Statistically, 383 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: their defense has been very very good, no doubt, But 384 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking specifically the first half of last week's game 385 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: against Illinois. I guess the fourth quarter of that game 386 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: against app State. 387 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: Which looks a little better. What APT does look like since. Yeah, 388 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: it does look better for sure. 389 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: It's just those kind of lapses aren't going to stand 390 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: against Ohio State, No, And if they happen against a 391 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: team like this, they're going to be some some real problems, 392 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: even at home. 393 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree a little bit with you saying the 394 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: numbers say Penn State's defense. Maybe you mean like, traditionally 395 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: these past couple of years has been very good, but 396 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: this year, if you watch the first half, like you 397 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: said of the Illinois game, Illine was able to move 398 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: the ball in the ground against a vastly superior talent 399 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: wise defense, and app State move the ball through the 400 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: air and on the ground against this Penn State team 401 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: late in the game. I think Penn State has done 402 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: a good job of limiting big passes, and they've been 403 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: pretty good offensively at themselves running the ball, giving the 404 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: defense some rests. But I think there is significant is 405 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: too strong a word noticeable drop off with it. 406 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: Oh, there's absolutely a drop off. I'm looking overall S 407 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: and P plus ranking of twenty second for Penn State's defense, 408 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: despite the fact that to your point, some of the 409 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: underlying numbers would indicate they have a hard time stopping 410 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: the run. Sometimes they have a harder time stopping the path. 411 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 2: They've given up big pass plays, They've given up a 412 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: lot of completions in terms of completion percentage. So like 413 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: there are underlying indicators there that might lead you to 414 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: be a little bit worried. And I think that's what 415 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: jumps out at me, just aside from all the statistics. 416 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: I've watched these games, and I know that this is 417 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: a possibility in a big spot against Ohio State. 418 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: Is it weird to say that? Is it weird to worry? 419 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I say, I guess that Trace McSorley has had prolonged 420 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: stretches of being ordinary. Well see, I don't know if 421 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: it's necessarily all on him, but the offensive line has 422 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: gotten better throughout the years from where it was starting 423 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: out at the beginning of James Franklin's tenure. And the 424 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: receiving corps is fine. I mean, Juwan Johnson, kJ Hamler, 425 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: these guys have emerged. But just in terms of consistency 426 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: and level of competition since that app State game, it's 427 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: been pit Kent State and Illinois. This is not a 428 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: murderer's row of defense is we're talking about? And that's 429 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: what worries me. It's a good thing that Nick Bosa 430 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: for Penn State, not for Nick Bosa or Ohio State, 431 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: is out for a prolonged period of time with his 432 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: what core muscle surgery. We hope he has a fast 433 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: and speed recovery, but he's out a while, so he 434 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: won't be playing Saturday. And I can simplify it to this, 435 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: If Ohio State runs the ball in the first half 436 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: like Illinois did they win games over this game is 437 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: over right? Yeah, Yeah, that's it. 438 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: I think we agree on that point, and I do 439 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: agree to some extent on your sentiment regarding Trace McSorley. 440 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: Where it ends for me is we still see flashes. 441 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: We still see the big game flashes in him where 442 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: he's just not going to be denied. We saw it 443 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: against app State. We saw it in spots against Illinois, 444 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: even though that game wasn't nearly down to the wire 445 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: like the app State one. This is a big game 446 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: player and I think definitely will rise to the occasion here, 447 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: which is why I'm not going to go with Ohio 448 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: State minus the points. I think this is a three 449 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: point game one way or the other. I'm not saying 450 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Penn State's gonna win outright, though I think they could. 451 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: I just don't want to bet against Trace McSorley at 452 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: home at night. The biggest game of his final season 453 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 2: is white in State quarterback White out. Sure like there 454 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: are too many factors that work in Penn State's favor 455 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: for me to feel confident laying the points here. So 456 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm just going to gobble up three and a half 457 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: or four whatever it ends up being a kickoff, and 458 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: expect a very close football game here, which could hinge 459 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: on how Penn State does just as a defense in 460 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: stopping the rushing attack from Ohio State. 461 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take Penn State here. I'm going 462 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: to take them to win out right, and I know 463 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: my concerns about the defense and Trace McSorley make that 464 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: kind of a confusing pick. Ohio State. If you get 465 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: them in third and long as TCU did, they struggled 466 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. You look at the drives that's stopped early. 467 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: It was because Dwayne Haskins had a little bit of trouble. 468 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Third and six, third and seven, third and eight. I 469 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: think Penn State can force that both with the crowd 470 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: and the defense. I think you're right that Trace McSorley 471 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: in a big game. There was something very comforting about 472 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: Mike KASICKI DeShawn Hamilton that I don't fully see with 473 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: this core of your right sketchers. 474 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: No, you're you're right, and I've I've picked up on 475 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: that too. It's kJ Hamler's been big, Yeah, but you 476 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: know I'm. 477 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: Not He's not literally big. 478 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: No, I'm not totally confident in Juwan Johnson. There have 479 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: been some mistakes early, so they've they've got room took her. 480 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: I love Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders is having an incredible season. Yes, 481 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: but in the passing game, sure, there's a little bit 482 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: to be desired. 483 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something the way you watch Penn State this year, 484 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: it almost makes you look at Sakuon Barkley like he 485 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: was a bonus that Penn State was the most Penn 486 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: State when Trace McSorley was hitting and the defense was everywhere, 487 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: and he was just this the best bonus ever. No, 488 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: and the gravitational kind of player we talked about state wise, 489 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: if they run, they win, they struggle against TCU for 490 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: the first three quarters or so. To be consistently dominant 491 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: on the ground with one of, if not the best 492 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: running back duos in the country. Dwayne Haskins is accurate, 493 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: He's calm, he steps into the pocket, he has a 494 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: ton of poise, and even if he doesn't, his backup 495 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: looks to be pretty promising as well. The receivers are great. 496 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: The defense should still swarm even without Nick Bosa. I'm 497 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: still a little bit concerned about some of the lapses 498 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: they had against TCU, but I think TCU is still 499 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm taking Penn State out right much more 500 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: as a result of the environment, trace McSorley in a 501 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: big spot and the potential for high level talent on offense. Though, Man, 502 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: that defense, it worries me. It does because I just 503 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they have the same type of dependability 504 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: that they've had these past couple of years. Even that 505 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: secondary worries me. Yeah, that was idly a great unit. 506 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah I am with you on that, But nonetheless we 507 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: both go pick here plus. 508 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: The points apprehensive but here all right. 509 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: Also at seven point thirty, this one on NBC, we've 510 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: got the Stanford Cardinal traveling across most of the country 511 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: to get to South Indiana to square off against Notre Dame. 512 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: This point spread went in the opposite direction. Actually it 513 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: opened at three and a half and now it's at 514 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: about four and a half. Again. We're recording this on 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: Wednesday evening. Notre Dame made the switch last week to 516 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: Ian Book one very easily against wake Forest. Stanford still 517 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: coming down after that nail bier in Eugene, which we 518 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to talk about. 519 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: You and I. 520 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: I hope you've recovered okay from you, Dan. 521 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: It was I'm not going into it, but it was 522 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: the quickest I've ever felt my college football heart drop 523 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: and then bounce back of like, oh no, they looked 524 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: really good and it took like three and a half 525 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: Fluke plays for them to lose. And that's a much 526 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: better place to be in as a fan than being 527 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: stomped by a team and giving up a ton of 528 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: points and not looking competitive. So yeah, I made peace 529 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: with that pretty quick. Stanford should have lost that game 530 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: to Oregon, correct. I think that's agree If you watch 531 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: that game, you probably agree as well. This is another 532 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: game though, that comes down to a field goal, and 533 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: Stanford's getting what I say, four four and a half now, hm, 534 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. If you're betting this game, I 535 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: think you have to gobble up the points and assume 536 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be close. Because this game, this game 537 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: Dan literally and I don't like to use that word, 538 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: but literally all lives close. When the game is in 539 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: South Bend, it's always a one score game. So from 540 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: a betting standpoint, just look at. 541 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: The facts of the case here, it's always close. I 542 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: think it will again be close for me. This game 543 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: hinges on whether Stanford can get anything going in the 544 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: past game. 545 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: It's not a. 546 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: Situation where they're up against the defense that can't stop 547 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: their rushing attack. They're not going to run all over 548 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Bryce Love will probably get his but it's 549 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: not like he's going to run all over them. I 550 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: think it comes down to kJ Costello throwing downfield against 551 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: a really good secondary. If he can establish a rhythm, 552 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: if they're able to loosen up that defense, then things 553 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: work a little bit more favorably for Stanford. Otherwise, though, 554 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: I think the matchup favors Notre Dame. So because I 555 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: am a fan here, I'm abstaining from picking the game, 556 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: as you know, just. 557 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: Like a broadcaster that's right calling this game can't rules 558 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: regulations prevent me far I would just gobble up the 559 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: points here and go Stanford. Plus I politely disagree. I 560 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: am going to give those points and I'm too confident. 561 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: Lock it up for me, please, oh God, go on, 562 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: do your work. Go ahead. Second second straight week of 563 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: stand on the road in a tough place against a 564 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: tough team. 565 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: Right. 566 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: I never love that. You never love a team traveling 567 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row when both teams are good, 568 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: especially on defense. And yes, Oregon in the second half 569 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: arguable claim kJ Costello most certainly found jj arthego Whiteside. 570 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I really do want to go with a thuh are 571 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: thego whiteside? Because that is technically how it's pronounced. Sure, 572 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: and Colby Parkinson they were very good going downfield. Stanford 573 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: gets itself into trouble. Stanford finds itself with third and 574 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: long A lot lucky for Stanford. Notre Dame. Their defense 575 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: is not all that great. When they force third and long, 576 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: they give up first downs. That's what happens. You've watched 577 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: this team. I've watched this team. There are issues, but 578 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: Notre Dame looks to be in more of a rhythm 579 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: offensively with Ian Book. If he is indeed the starter, 580 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I think is Brian Kelly still coy Brian Kelly about this? 581 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Okay, I'm not sure what to believe 582 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: at this point. My guess is that we're going to 583 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: see both quarterbacks. Maybe nuts not to use Wimbush in 584 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: some capacity because he does give them an added dimension 585 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: in spots. I just I always found it goofy when 586 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: they would bring E in Book it because theoretically he 587 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: gives them less. He's just more consistent at what he 588 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: does provide. So that's like a whole other topic for 589 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: a whole different show. Sure, I yeah, I think we're 590 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: going to see much more of Book than Wimbush. 591 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: Let's put it down. So if Notre Dame is consistently 592 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: competent on offense, I know their run game has been 593 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: sort of maddenly inconsistence, and Notre Dame can keep their 594 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: defense rested. I think this defense is built pretty well 595 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: on all three levels to handle Stanford. Oregon didn't really 596 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: have the big athletic linebackers that I think Notre Dame 597 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: employees like Drew Treankuole has been very good in coverage 598 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: at safety. They've found a big answer early on, so 599 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they stop Stanford fully, but Sanfred's had 600 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: issues on offense. Bryce Love has not really been Bryce 601 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: Love this year. The offensive line hasn't really been the 602 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: offensive line we're used to seeing from Stanford. So I 603 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: think this is a bit of a comeback to earth Stanford. 604 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna hurt their chances in the 605 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: PAC twelve, but I think Notre Dame at Notre Dame's 606 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily best, but approaching best at home should beat Stanford. Okay, 607 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: I think I think it's a good matchup. It's a 608 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: good matchup here for Notre Dame. 609 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree with that. I'm still going Stanford 610 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: plus the points here. Actually, if you can bet on 611 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: the margin of victory for one team or another being 612 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: seven points, that would be the play. I don't know 613 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: if anyone offers that prop, but in a game that 614 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: I know is traditionally very close, I'm gonna go with 615 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: the points. 616 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: It's a really good defense. This team is operating and 617 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: has a little bit of rest on defense. All three 618 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: levels are good. 619 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: Ty. 620 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: I know it's you're skittish. I am not saying too 621 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: many good things. Yeah, but I'll take that mantle from you. Ty. 622 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Lock them up God, I can't believe you did that? 623 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: All right? 624 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: Ah where else are we gonna go? 625 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: I locked them up against Michigan? How did I do? 626 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: You did? Okay? Did I come through? For the Irish faithful, 627 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: for the for the Echoes? Come on? 628 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: Also at seven point thirty on Fox, we got BYU 629 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: traveling to Washington. The point spread here is seventeen points. 630 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: I just wanted to discuss this game very quickly because 631 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: of course BYU knocked off Wisconsin, which was one on 632 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: the road. Sure, BYU knocked them off on the road, 633 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: one of the more notable victories here through the first 634 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: month of the season. And I don't mean to diminish 635 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: that because that's a hell of a win in Madison. 636 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: Right Definitely, Squally Canada stand up? 637 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: I am worried here for the Cougars. That Washington defense, 638 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: statistically in the early going is a cut above what 639 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: we saw from Wisconsin, and BYU is pretty bad at 640 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: generating big plays. To have a real chance in this game, 641 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: they would have to get a few of those in 642 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: the manner that they did against Wisconsin. I don't see 643 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: it here. The offense as a whole has actually been 644 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: pretty underwhelming. Better at running than throwing, but on the 645 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: whole somewhat underwhelming and against a really good defense like 646 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: Washington against the still a good offense at Washington that 647 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: can grind it out with Miles Gaskin, This to me 648 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: feels like a Hallmark crock Potting here where they just 649 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: Washington plays the field position game. You get that dramatic 650 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: drive chart to read on Sunday morning for BYU. Like 651 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: that that kind of feel to this game to me. 652 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: The points spread is seventeen in favor of Washington, which 653 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: still feels like a lot. But you know, I think 654 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay the points here. I really like Washington 655 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: in this matchup. 656 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: We were This is still a BYU team that lost 657 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: to a horrendous Cal offense, that was outscored by a 658 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: horrendous Cal offense and got pretty good I think, or 659 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: maybe outright good Cal defense. Washington has had moments where 660 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: some of the people who were questioning Jake brown in 661 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: the off season that we mocked a little may have 662 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: had a point. Yeah, Jake browning at times when he 663 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: is pressured. Was it I don't know the name of 664 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: the exact video. Was it called Star Wars kid like 665 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: the very clumsy lightsaber. 666 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: The lightsaber. Yeah, yeah, sure. 667 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: There's there's a little bit of that when Jake Browning 668 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: is under pressure a little bit like he's just he's 669 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: there's a little flail to him, and the offense hasn't 670 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: fully got into that churn like where they've been these 671 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: past couple of years. I don't know if it's a 672 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith thing, the offensive coordinator for Chris Peterson the 673 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: past few years at UDUB moving on to Oregon State 674 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: and then just losing that that play calling rhythm and confidence, 675 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: it might be. But I think you have a point. 676 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: I think this defense should be able to because BYU, 677 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: even against Wisconsin, they generated big plays, but it wasn't 678 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: like every time they were on the field they were 679 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: marching down on Wisconsin. They did enough, and to be 680 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a feat. But to go on the road 681 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: against this Washington team, who I think should be able 682 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: to generate points on both sides of the ball, if 683 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 1: not offense, defense, special teams, I think eventually you're right. 684 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: I think Washington's probably twenty one to twenty three points 685 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: better than them on paper, and they're what laying sixteen, seventeen, 686 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: eighteen points. Yeah, so I am in my belief that 687 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: they're at least three touchdowns better. I'm gonna lay those 688 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: points for Washington to to find some rhythm against the coupe. 689 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Will you agree? 690 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna throw this one up here real quick. Okay, 691 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: nine pm ESPN Ole Miss at LSU. The point spread 692 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: open at thirteen and a half. I have down to 693 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: twelve here on my sheet, and I'm just interested in 694 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: this game because it just feels like a real contrast 695 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: in styles. I know you have a thing, we've had 696 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: a thing where we talk about half teams. Ole Miss 697 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: is like the ultimate half team. 698 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: This year Ole Miss maybe the SEC's definitive half team, 699 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: which is tough because over the years there have been 700 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: some options, but this year feels because they can only 701 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: really I know, they ran pretty well early on, but 702 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: lately they've been a one dimensional team and that's been 703 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: through the air. On offense with really good receivers what 704 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: we believe at least in after week four to be 705 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: a good quarterback in Jordan Toamu. But this defense has 706 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: been a nightmare. And for an LSU offense that I 707 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: think has I mean junk balled their way. They generate 708 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: big plays they're timely. You know, on third and seven 709 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: they're getting nine and a half. But in terms of 710 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: consistently moving down the field with a new starting quarterback 711 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow and him getting into rhythm with receivers, 712 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: there have been stretches of struggling. And this Ole Miss 713 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: defense feels like the cure for the common offense. And 714 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: I give LSU all the credit in the world for 715 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: making those timely plays and winning. I mean, nobody's away 716 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: from home. They beat what Miami and Auburn. Nobody has 717 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: a resume like that, No nobody. But we can't look 718 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: at LSU struggling to separate themselves last week from Louisiana 719 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: Tech until the fourth quarter. We can't look at them 720 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: fully as a team ready to score with the best 721 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: of the SEC, especially since that includes Alabama. Especially since 722 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: that includes Alabama. So I think LSU was able to 723 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: distance themselves from Ole Miss. I think this is just 724 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: what they needed. I know they have Florida next week, 725 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: but they're not looking past Ole Miss. It's one of 726 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: those wink wink, not a rivalry, but definitely a rivalry. 727 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: So I think LSU takes this one. You said it 728 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: was about twelve twelve. I got it at twelve yeah, yeah, 729 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: I have it at about seventeen to twenty three points. 730 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: They win this game. I like LSU as well. 731 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: Actually, I like LSU a lot more because of did 732 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: we talk about that bit yet in the Athletic about 733 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: nutrition and sports? Oh no, that was something else. Man 734 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: Max Olsen wrote that, right, that was Max, this. 735 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: Is this is true. I assigned you that was your home. Yeah, 736 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: to read that piece. I read another piece. So what 737 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to do? I want a book report? Okay, sorts, 738 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: I saw the headline. I saved it to one of 739 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: those read it later apps. I'm going to read it, 740 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: but walk me through what I missed, because I've got 741 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: one for you. 742 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: Just an intense deep dive, intense deep dive on the schematics, 743 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: the strategy of sports, a training table, yeah, sports nutrition, 744 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: and how LSU does it in a way that they 745 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 2: get buy in from the players. It was super interesting. 746 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: Food's very important, and we've seen this from a number 747 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: of schools. But I love the fact that the athletic 748 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: is doing this series of behind the programs. It's people 749 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: around you know, whether it's you know, a security guard 750 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: who has stood by the Virginia Tech coach for the 751 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: past thirty years. So you know the trooper excuse me, 752 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: not a security guard, but he has run security. I 753 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: read a piece on I believe his name is Brian Anderson, 754 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: the turf master tie at Arizona State. 755 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: Eight. 756 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something one educational. It was from 757 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: our pal Nicole Hourback. Didn't know what goes into being 758 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: a turf master. He runs the turf. His Twitter handle 759 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: includes the number four one nine because Bermuda four one 760 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: nine is the specific strain that he prefers of grass 761 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: for the Arizona State field. He talks about his job 762 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 1: as like he's conning the world, like they actually pay 763 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: me to tend to and manufacture this grass. I just 764 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: love artisans ty, whether it's somebody making pizza, a metal worker, 765 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: somebody with their hands. The ad of Arizona State said, 766 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: sometimes he looks out his window of the office onto 767 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: the field and Anderson has his nose in the grass 768 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: and now he does super bowls. Like, if you read 769 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: this piece, you're just like, I want to I want 770 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: to have lunch with this person and ask the most minute, 771 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: tiny questions. He's like, yeah, Bermuda is great. Obviously, in 772 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: this hot, humid environment. But like, and you know this 773 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: tie because you've got a you've got a thicket full 774 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: of hair. It's right top. He's got to do some 775 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: thinning over the summer, okay, because the grass is so 776 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: robust in the Arizona heat. I loved every second of it. 777 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: Cannot recommend reading this deep tive behind the program The 778 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com slash solid verbal Join the Future tie. 779 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: I mean you're already there. I'm already here. Join us 780 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: and everybody else in the verbalosphere. Joining the future you 781 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: get forty percent off two ninety nine a month. The 782 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com slash solid verbal. 783 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to ten thirty on FS one. 784 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: Oregon at Cal You what am I missing here? Why 785 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: is this only man? Why is this only a three 786 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: point line? 787 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: Now? 788 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: Cal, I know has a pretty good defense. Yes, but 789 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: Oregon looked outstanding last week and again probably should have 790 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: beaten Stanford. It seems to me like they're a much 791 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: betch better team than Cal. Cal As A Venue is 792 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: not the most menace place to play in the world. 793 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: It's not that far of a trip south for Oregon. 794 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 2: Why is this line only three? Well? 795 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: I think I am pretty simpatico with our friends out 796 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: in the desert in Vegas. So we have Cal coming 797 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: off a bye week hosting Oregon in a letdown spot 798 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: with a good defense. That's I mean not insignificant. I 799 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: love that phrase, not insignificant, when I could just say significant. 800 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: There is something potentially pretty scary about the improvement that 801 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: Cal has had year over year. They don't make mistakes, 802 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: they play good defense. They should be able to lock 803 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: down some outside of Dylan Mitchell, relatively underwhelming receivers, and 804 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: they could with a good defense at home after a 805 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: bye they could make it ugly. Now, the problem with 806 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: your pal Dan's theory about taking points with home teams 807 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: good defenses, you have to get a little bit worried 808 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: when the offense is garbage and Cal does not have 809 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in a cruel way. They 810 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: don't have anything on offense, and they will eventually, hopefully, 811 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: because there's talent in California. 812 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: Did I craize this because of my enthusiasm about a 813 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: potential Bower hour. 814 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: You may have because he's already been benched. 815 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: He's not quarterback anymore. 816 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: He's already gone. Tai huh Chase Garber seems fine. I 817 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know. He's not handing it off, he's not throwing 818 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: into anybody that's particularly scary. Maybe I'm missing everything. Maybe 819 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm overly confident. I think Oregon comfortably beats cal by 820 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: sixteen to eighteen points. Something in there, you know what, Dan, 821 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: Let's lock it up. 822 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, lock of the week. Yeah, buddy, let's lock up Oregon. 823 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: You did it to me, I'm doing it to you. 824 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm pretty confident in this Oregon team moving forward. 825 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: I think they're going to regroup nicely after last week's 826 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: very strange loss. 827 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 2: All Right, we've got a bunch of other games that 828 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: we want to get through here. Let's first go to 829 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: Friday as we travel back in time. Dan also on 830 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 2: f S one, Ucla at Colorado. The points bread is 831 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: ten in favor of the Buffs. Bet against Colorado. If 832 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: you want to take your life in your hands and 833 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: be the target of harassment on social media and. 834 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Whoa yhoa whoa organic, free range, artisanal social media. Right, yeah, okay, I'm. 835 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: Gonna do with Colorado here. I'm not feeling, not feeling 836 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: much from UCLA lately. 837 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: Ucla is not good at college football. 838 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 2: They're not good at all. 839 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: No, Colorado is giving, and we don't. To be fair, 840 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: we know a little bit more about Nebraska to take 841 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: away a smidge, if I'm allowed to use that word 842 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: on a on a podcast, A smidge from what Colorado 843 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: accomp there after seeing what Nebraska look like against Michigan, 844 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: where we're just we're not We're not pumping any brakes. 845 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: We're just slow and off the gas a little bit. 846 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: But Colorado, I believe. Are they coming off of bye week? 847 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: I believe. No, they had New Hampshire in Week three. Yes, 848 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: they're coming off of bye week. And I like this offense. 849 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: UCLA's defense at times has been pretty good. But Ucla 850 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: might be a nightmare. Ucla might be really bad. So 851 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Colorado. I think they win this 852 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 1: by thirteen. 853 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to three point thirty on Saturday on CBS. 854 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of teams that are really bad, Yeah, Tennessee is 855 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: a thirty one and a half point dog on the 856 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: road at Georgia. Here's the thing. Thirty one and a 857 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: half a lot of points. That's a lot of points. 858 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: I don't care who's playing whom. However, I have no 859 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: good reason to go with Tennessee other than to think 860 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 2: that Georgia can't cover that spread. And I feel like 861 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: George's probably good enough to cover that spread. What I'm 862 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: saying here, and I can't believe I've talked myself into this. 863 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Georgia minus the points. 864 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I can't really find anything to 865 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: like that much about Tennessee being competitive with Georgia. I'm 866 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: just gonna give those points. It's in Athens. 867 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: You know. 868 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: You can say Georgia's looking past them to more of 869 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: the meet on their schedule, but George is perfectly happy 870 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: to focus on and stop Tennessee. This is not a 871 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: random matchup. There's a lot of history between these two teams. Yes, 872 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: I think. I think Georgia wins this game by five touchdowns. 873 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 2: Also at three point thirty on ESPN two, what I 874 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 2: would classify as a very very rich Man's Kansas versus Rutgers. 875 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: We've got Florida State on the road at a Louisville. 876 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 2: The Knowles are a six point favorite. You know, I 877 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 2: am not inclined at all to bet Florida State, but 878 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 2: Louisville has been really bad really bad so far this 879 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: football season? Is it crazy of me to lay the 880 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 2: six points even though it's a road spot and go 881 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 2: with Florida State here? 882 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean BBG that Florida State offensive line. Oh man, No, 883 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: this is a really good to hold my beer game. 884 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: Florida State, we just got killed by syrahcuse Louisville watch 885 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: this game versus Virginia. Just watch it. Yeah, I guess 886 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: I'll take the points. The home team's getting points, yeah, 887 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: they are, so I'll take those points. Sure, listen. Maybe 888 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: Florida State will improve. They're not going to improve on 889 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Their defense has been pretty good. To 890 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: have talent on this defense, I'm just gonna stay away 891 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 1: from this game for the good of everybody. I'll take 892 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: those points and not think I'll move on to whatever 893 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about next. 894 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to four thirty on Fox. We've 895 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: got Michigan at Northwestern h The Wolverines a thirteen and 896 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 2: a half point road favorite. Though this game is zero 897 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: sex appeal to me. 898 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: Oh man, you just have to talk about it in 899 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: like heavy metal terms. 900 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 2: Like Pat Fitzgerald at home. I feel genuinely for anyone 901 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: that has to watch this game. This is not going 902 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: to be a fun game to watch. Thirteen and a half. 903 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: I feel like Michigan should be should be like twenty 904 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: points better than Northwestern at this point. But that being said, 905 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,479 Speaker 2: Northwestern has a weird way about themselves in these home 906 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 2: games where they really have no business keeping it close. 907 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: I think James Taylor has a song. Yeah, Northwestern has 908 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: a weird way about it. 909 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to go Northwestern plus the points. I can't 910 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: justify it with any real statistical backing. 911 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: Tell me about your intuition, Tell me about how you 912 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: see Northwestern covering. Not necessarily why, but the situation Northwestern 913 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: will find itself keeping this you know, within I'm saying 914 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: it's about a two touchdown thirteen fourteen point spread. Yeah, 915 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: so talk me into thirty four twenty thirty four to 916 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: twenty four Michigan. 917 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 2: A couple bad turnovers from shape Patterson. Okay, a low 918 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 2: scoring game because I don't think Northwestern is going to 919 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 2: put up a whole lot of points against this defense. 920 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: Just maybe a win for Michigan, but not uber convincing, 921 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: something like seventeen to nine. 922 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. So Northwestern has been given up some 923 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: long runs they've been given up some losses to Akron, 924 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: although to be fair, I believe there were two pick 925 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: sixes that led to Akron points or that were directly 926 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, six points each time. I don't like Northwestern's 927 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 1: back end of their defense at all. I think shape 928 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: Patterson has found himself getting in to a rhythm if 929 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm not too scared to admit that. And just Northwestern's 930 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: defense may be fine, they're gonna be on the field 931 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: too much. Michigan's gonna get Northwestern's offense off the field 932 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: with an alarming rate of regularity. So I think the 933 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: damn breaks it won't look like last week's Nebraska game, which, 934 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: by the way, so our power. Richard Johnson was over 935 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: here watching football games as he does. Jody with and 936 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: I in another room studying for a test she has 937 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: to take for work, and so she's not watching the game. 938 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: As soon as she finds out that Michigan's comfortably up, 939 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: she's like, just yell when Michigan scores. Little did she 940 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: know a lot of yelling yeah from the Michigan Nebraska game, 941 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: a lot of hi sport nine seven. Now it's fifty 942 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 1: two to seven. Now it's fifty nine to seven now, 943 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 1: and so I don't think it's going to be that dramatic, 944 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: but I could see forty five seventeen for sure. 945 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: All right, six pm ESPN Florida at Mississippi State. The 946 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 2: Bulldog's a seven and a half point favorite. I thought 947 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 2: I had this one all figured out before Mississippi State 948 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: lost by twenty one to Kentucky. 949 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should point out, by the way, not to 950 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: go back to Northwestern Michigan, but bum to see Northwestern 951 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: starting running back Jeremy Larkin retiring for medical reasons, so 952 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: for sure will affect them this week and beyond. It 953 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: sucks to see. 954 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 2: Sorry, continue, who do you pick in a game like 955 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: this Florida and Mississippi State? 956 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, ty funny you asked, because I was just mulling 957 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: it over. Thank you for selling that tie. Wow, you turned, 958 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: you turned? I did. I prepared that. I have a 959 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,479 Speaker 1: whiteboard full of Mullen puns and that was the best 960 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: I could do, which says a lot about me. So 961 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: Mississippi State has looked excellent until they ran into the 962 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: buzz saw that is the Kentucky Wildcats. Correct. Oh, listen, 963 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 1: Kentucky's beaten both of the Dan Mullen teams. That's facts 964 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: all only ty. Sure we'll get to Kentucky. Momentarily, I 965 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: think Mississippi State is probably better than they looked against Kentucky. 966 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: They will not commit I want to say, fifteen or 967 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: sixteen penalties like they did against Kentucky. I think they 968 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 1: will be a little bit more disciplined against this Florida 969 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: team who seems fine, but they don't seem to do 970 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: anything particularly overwhelmingly. Well. They're pretty good upfront on defense, 971 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: They're not where they've been. Mississippi State is a pretty 972 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: one note offense. They will run the ball, and then 973 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna run it a little bit more, and then 974 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: just when you think they've finished running, maybe they'll pass it, 975 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: but they'll probably run continue to They're just gonna keep 976 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: on running it. So I'm worried about Florida giving up 977 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: big plays, Dan Mullen giving up a little bit too much, 978 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: Joe moorehead taking time. Maybe it was a situation or 979 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: Misissippi State and the emotions involved in playing against their 980 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: old coach sort of looked past Kentucky. But even if 981 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: they did, I was dune with them because Kentucky's good. 982 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: So I think Mississippi State eventually really wins this game. 983 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm terribly worried about Felipe Franks throwing into this 984 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: defense because they're going to need him to do that. 985 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: And if you have to count on that for your 986 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: attempt to score twenty eight to thirty one points, I myself, 987 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: I am not feeling good. So I think Misssippi State 988 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: wins this game twenty eight to seventeen. 989 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go in Mississippi State minus the points. It's a 990 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 2: tough place to play. Tie thirty one ten Wow. 991 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,959 Speaker 1: Comfortable. Yeah, all right, so we've. 992 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: Got I got five more games here on my list 993 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: that I want to get through, but we got to 994 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 2: do it quickly. 995 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: Got to go run too. 996 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 2: Let's be here, we go them PAC twelve Network Utah 997 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 2: at Wazu Wazoo opened as a two point favorite. Utah 998 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 2: is now favored by one. I don't like the fact 999 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 2: that it's on the road. I don't like anything about 1000 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,760 Speaker 2: Utah's offense, but they still have a really good defense, 1001 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: and I am gonna just go sight unseen defense here. 1002 00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: Give me. 1003 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: Utah ought to win this one out right. 1004 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: Utah the one, one hundred and thirtieth best offense. Out 1005 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: of one hundred and thirty teams, the eighth best defense. 1006 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: I am going to take Wazoo. I'm gonna take Wazoo 1007 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: because Utah I just even if they keep them to 1008 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: twenty points, how's Uta scoring twenty? Gimme Wazoo. I'm gonna 1009 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: give those. I'm going to take those points home dog 1010 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: pretty good defense. I think Wazoo wins this by three 1011 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: to seven. 1012 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: Seven pm, ESPN. You we've got Iowa stayed at TCU. 1013 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 2: TCU a ten and a half point favorite. Dan I 1014 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: would say the best part about not being able to 1015 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 2: record on Wednesday was that I couldn't screw up my 1016 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: TCU Texas pick because I was one hundred and ninety 1017 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 2: percent going to go TCU there. 1018 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: Oh Andy and I were both all in, Yes. 1019 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 2: I am going to go TCU here as well. There 1020 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 2: still good football team going to go TCU at home. 1021 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: Lay the ten and a half revenge spot for TCU 1022 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: after last year's game that has TCU fans saying we 1023 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: never played Iowa State last year. I don't remember that 1024 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 1: at all. When tc was kept turning the ball over, 1025 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,479 Speaker 1: I think TCU gets back on track. Iowa State's good 1026 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to take the points here. I think 1027 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: TCU wins out right, but I think they win this 1028 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: game by seven to eight, so I'm gonna I'm gonna 1029 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: take those points. I'm gonna say the final score is 1030 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: something like thirty one to twenty four, all right. 1031 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 2: Also, we've got at seven pm ESPN two, Virginia Tech 1032 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 2: at Duke. Interesting matchup. Duke favored by five and a half. 1033 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 2: I believe in this game, Dan, who you got. 1034 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take? Oh Man, what a come down for 1035 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. I know, I know, I think I'm leaning Duke. 1036 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: I really like what Duke's been able to do defensively, 1037 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: even losing their defensive coordinator. They win games when their 1038 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is in. I know Daniel Jones has gotten healthier. 1039 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Duke here. 1040 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Duke as well. The injury to Josh 1041 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 2: Jackson is not fun. I hope he has a speedy recovery. 1042 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: But their backup's pretty good. But I'm worried about that offense. 1043 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 2: You're worried about the offense, and Duke's been pretty good 1044 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 2: this year, So I'm gonna go Duke. Definitely, iven thirty 1045 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 2: on SEC Networks. South Carolina at Kentucky. Kentucky a point 1046 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 2: and a half point favorite. I hate to keep asking 1047 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 2: the question, Dan, but is Kentucky back? I think they've 1048 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: just arrived. Kentucky's good. Kentucky's just straight up. I don't 1049 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 2: need to qualify at Kentucky's good. They faced good teams 1050 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 2: and beating them are pretty good teams and beating them. 1051 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 2: They have a formula that is I think also good 1052 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 2: for beating a team like South Carolina, who if you're 1053 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 2: willing to be patient against the South Carolina defense, you 1054 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 2: can move the ball. 1055 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 1: Kentucky has Benny Snell. Kentucky has a very good defensive front. 1056 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: I think Kentucky will win this game. There is something 1057 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: there is juice about Kentucky right now that I don't 1058 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: fully see with this especially South Carolina offense. So I'm 1059 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna give those points. Kentucky keeps rolling. 1060 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: Give me the Cats. I'm going with the Cats. 1061 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: I agree. 1062 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: And finally, ten thirty ESPN two, we've got USC at Arizona. 1063 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 2: USC is a three point favorite. Here, Dan, you got 1064 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 2: very strange line. Yeah, seems low, doesn't it. 1065 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: I believe this is the Adam a mean game. We 1066 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: don't have a voice meal this week because he's already 1067 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: been to Tucson. Yeah, so go back and listen to 1068 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: his old Tucson recommendation. I'll get if you. If you 1069 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: have any questions about where to eat and Tucson, you 1070 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: can you can tweet us. We'll get you settled. Very 1071 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: strange line. USC defensively just very disappointing from where we 1072 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: thought they'd be. They're just completely beat up in the secondary, 1073 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: playing a lot of youth, encouraging youth, but Arizona not 1074 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: the same team on offense, even with the comfortable win 1075 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: last week against Oregon State. I like USC, but this 1076 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: feels such like a stay away line to me that 1077 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: USC should win this game by seven, ten eleven points, 1078 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm terrified of that three and a half. 1079 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to take USC because this Arizona defense may 1080 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: still be abysmal. I don't know what could have improved 1081 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: since that that Houston game, So I'm going SC. I 1082 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: think they ultimately win by close to, if not double digits. 1083 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 2: I like, guess see a lot in this game, an 1084 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: awful lot in this football game. 1085 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: It's so weird though, because Cleil Tae should be able. 1086 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 2: To get Lion the line where all right? Before we 1087 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 2: go any further, and I promise we don't have much 1088 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,479 Speaker 2: much more further to go. We want to talk about 1089 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 2: Bombas the sock guys. Oh my gosh, please, I wore 1090 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 2: my Bombas socks to work today underneath my khakis. I 1091 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 2: ran at Bombas today, the official sock of the Solid Verbal. 1092 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 2: They put two years of research and development into a 1093 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 2: design for performance and comfort, Dan, what is your number 1094 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 2: one rule of life? 1095 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh, You're only as comfortable as your feet are. 1096 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 3: Oh. 1097 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 1098 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: Bombas claims to have the most comfortable socks in the 1099 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 2: history of feet. I would tend to agree. They are 1100 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 2: a long time sponsor of the Verbal. They've got an 1101 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: arch support system in their socks. 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You throw on a made to 1155 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: order suit at some formal event, a wedding, a bar mitzvah, whatever, 1156 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: cocktail hour, Yeah, people are gonna look at you and 1157 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, you know what, I'll bet that guy 1158 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a weird body. I like that. 1159 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 2: I like his geometry. 1160 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: His topography is sleek yep, so Indo Chino easy. 1161 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 2: There you have it, Dan, That's all I got for 1162 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 2: this evening. 1163 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: That's all you have. I think there's a I mean 1164 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Syracuse Clemson. 1165 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 2: We talked about that at the top of the show 1166 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1167 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: We talked about it a little at the top of 1168 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: the show. Syracuse has been exceptional on third downs, defensively 1169 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: and on offense. They've I mean, they beat up on 1170 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Florida State, but you know, so did a middle school 1171 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: around the corner from me. Clemson, No, Kelly Bryant. The 1172 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: quarterback room a little thinner. I don't know if that 1173 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: affects play calling. Clemson should be in a good place here. 1174 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take the points. I think Syracuse 1175 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: gets a couple stops, maybe a backdoor cover Alabama with 1176 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 1: Louisiana Lafayette. I wouldn't worry terribly about that game. We 1177 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: talked about Army Buffalo briefly. Virginia and n C State. 1178 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Virginia's pretty good. NC State's pretty good, another serially undefated team. Yeah, 1179 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: so this game could come down to the wire and 1180 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: I would just be ready to find wherever the ACC 1181 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: network is in your town. Troy Coastal Carolina is a 1182 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: is a fun regional matchup Coastal Carolina with a good 1183 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: offense Troy with a good offense. I think that could 1184 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: be fun in a higher level than people realize. Purdue Nebraska, 1185 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: don't watch it, don't don't. Purdue gets a nice win 1186 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: last week, but you don't need to watch this Nebraska 1187 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: team not for like another year and a half. And 1188 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I understand that that's like February, but still give yourself 1189 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: a year and a half without watching Nebraska. Otherwise. I 1190 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: think Boise State has a nice game against Wyoming in 1191 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: a revenge spot a couple of years coming after the 1192 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen loss. And I think that's North Texas. Another 1193 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: quiet four and oh team, I just want to make 1194 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: sure we don't skip anything tie because I need it. 1195 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I need you real quick to drop that yeah, big 1196 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: nasty heart thumping. Well, I'm trying to think about good 1197 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: word that I had turg turgy drum and five. 1198 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 2: All right, what do we got? Dan? 1199 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Can you tell me ty where are we starting? 1200 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 2: One o'clock pm, Georgetown away from Multi sport Field on 1201 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 2: the road at Brown. 1202 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: Who you got Georgetown with a win? Brown? Can't say that? 1203 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: They go into Providence and wreck shop. Count on it. 1204 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Give me the Georgie's on the road. 1205 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 2: One oh five pm, Bucknell at oh and four, those 1206 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,959 Speaker 2: tricky Nellies squaring off against the Crossaders of Holy Cross. 1207 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Dan, give me holy Cross here at home. Double it 1208 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: up for me. Give me the Crossaders. 1209 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Six pm. Colgate coming in at three and oh, going 1210 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 2: to Bill and Mary. 1211 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Who you got? I'm taking the Gators? Bill and Mary 1212 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: yet to get to five hundred the Gators at three 1213 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: and oh, the class of the pat League thus far. 1214 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: They go into Zaba Stadium and they just destroy Bill 1215 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,439 Speaker 1: and they're cool with Mary, but they destroy Bill. 1216 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 2: And finally six pm Central Connecticut at two and two, 1217 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 2: coming all the way down here to Eastern Pennsylvania Fisher Stadium. Yeah, 1218 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 2: squaring off against the Lafayette Leopards, who are zero and 1219 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 2: four in this contest. Give me Lafayette, what the hell? 1220 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Classic Leopard rope a dope. Here's how seriously I take 1221 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: teams that are directional. Connecticut schools not at all, tie, 1222 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: not at all. Lafayette first went on the season, gets 1223 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: on the board. You can get into this game for 1224 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: probably three or four dollars. Go Leopards. 1225 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 2: All right, there you have it. We appreciate everyone who 1226 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 2: calls in on a week to week basis. Four weight 1227 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 2: Verbal one again is the phone number if you like 1228 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 2: to call in again. Stream of consciousness watching the game, 1229 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 2: something comes to mind. You gotta get it off your chest. Yeah, 1230 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 2: call on, you didn't react, four weight verbal one. You 1231 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 2: can also find us out there on Twitter, on Facebook, 1232 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: on Instagram. We've got a thriving subreddit right now started 1233 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: by verballers four verballers at reddit dot com slash r 1234 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 2: slash solid verbal and we will be back on Sunday 1235 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 2: to discuss all the happenings of week five. Though I 1236 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 2: should add a quick programming. Note that I will not 1237 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 2: be around on Sunday. As you know if you listen 1238 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 2: to this show with any regularity. I wasn't part of 1239 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: the Wednesday show or the last Sunday show, and I've 1240 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 2: gotten just inundated with people wondering what's up? Is everything okay? 1241 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 2: When will you be back? So here is the deal. 1242 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 2: I posted it on Saturday evening. I want to say 1243 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 2: on my Twitter account, but Kate's father has been sick 1244 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 2: stemming back to early March. He was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, 1245 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 2: and for those of you who are familiar with pancreatic cancer, 1246 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 2: it's one of the worst. 1247 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: This weekend. 1248 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, on Sunday, Kate's father passed away, and as you 1249 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 2: might imagine, we're all pretty emotional about it, pretty distraught, 1250 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: and pretty upset. The services for a great man are 1251 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 2: going to prevent me from watching football this weekend, from 1252 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 2: doing the podcast this weekend. I appreciate everyone's kind words. 1253 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 2: I am fine, we are fine, We're gonna be okay. 1254 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 2: But as you might expect, this is an emotional thing 1255 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 2: that we just have to go through. So I appreciate 1256 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 2: everyone's support out there. Again, I can't believe how many 1257 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: dozens upon dozens of messages that have come in through 1258 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 2: social media and the inbox. But this is what we're 1259 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 2: dealing with now as a family. I know that there 1260 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 2: are a lot of other families out there who have 1261 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 2: to deal with similar things, and quite frankly, it sucks 1262 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 2: across the board. It probably truly does. If you're interested, 1263 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I can post some details out on Twitter, out on 1264 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 2: our website, or out anywhere you can find the podcast 1265 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 2: for how you can donate to the Penn Medicine Abramson 1266 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Cancer Center, which treated my father in law John so 1267 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 2: incredibly well as he tried to battle this thing. 1268 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: It's something that you know, we all have gone through, 1269 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: will go through, and lucky for you, lucky for us, 1270 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 1: you're surrounded by an incredible group of family members and 1271 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: we have an incredible group of listeners that I'm positive 1272 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 1: are behind you and your family one hundred percent. 1273 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, they're the best, and I've been very thoughtful 1274 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 2: through this, So keep us in your thoughts. It's gonna 1275 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 2: be tough. But if you're wondering why I won't be 1276 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: available on Sunday, quite honestly, why I may not watch 1277 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 2: any football on Saturday. It's because life has something more 1278 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 2: important for me this weekend. Yeah, absolutely, so there you go. 1279 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: On that note, though, this is fun, This is a 1280 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 2: good a good way to get away, good to have 1281 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 2: you get away from the troubles of the world for 1282 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 2: only a moment in time and talk some college football. 1283 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 2: I hope everyone out there enjoys watching the games this weekend. 1284 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, we didn't do a Brew of the Week 1285 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 2: last week. I don't believe have one unless you got 1286 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: to it. But I'm gonna throw out dogfish Head sixty 1287 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 2: minute ipa because that was a favorite of my late 1288 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 2: father in law, so it's easy to get. It's a 1289 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 2: good ipa. You can find it just about anywhere. So 1290 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 2: if you if you're out there, if you're looking for something, 1291 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 2: why not look for a. 1292 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Dogfish Head sixty minute. 1293 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,640 Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1294 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 2: for myself, Tie hilden Brand. Enjoy the rest of your week, 1295 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend. We'll see you when we see you. 1296 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 2: In the meantime, Stay solid, peace,