1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: What is happened? Everybody? 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Texans All Access from Indianapolis, Indiana. John Harris Fontballano, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: silent reporter for your Houston Texans. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: So pumped to be up at the Combine. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: I know obviously there are a lot of big things 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: happening in Houston and did happen today, but we got 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: the combine going on. This is al NFL Texans Show, 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: and we're gonna bring you the combine to you from Indianapolis, Indiana. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: We have been very, very busy. Last night we had 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: a chance to catch up with Executi Vice President general 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Manager Nick Cassario. That was fun stuff with Nick, who 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: shot down even before he got to our interview all 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: the rumors, the stories then window all of that about 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: c J Stroud. CJ strouds our quarterback. Any discussion of 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: a trade is moronic. I love that phrase. That was 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: fun stuff catching up with Nick. And then we had 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: Andrew Ceciliano, the voice of the Cleveland Browns. He was 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: so fun to talk to. So if you missed that, 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: make sure you check out our podcast page. It is 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: a great interview with Andrew cecily Into Casario, so make 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: sure you check that out Tonight J. P. Shadwick, one 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: of the more versatile voices and personalities in this field. 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Calls college football games, does Westwood win NFL games, but 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: he covers the Jaguars inside and out. We always have 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: a fun time with JP Shadwick, So we'll have JP 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: a little later in the show, but we're gonna kick 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: it off with the NFL Films superstar. I can say 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: that now because he is one of the most requested 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: people in this room that I'm in right now. 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: And I look around and there are I don't. 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Know fifty sixty tables across the board of radio stations, streamers, podcasters, teams. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: They all want to talk to Greg Cosel from NFL Films. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Greg is as they would call a film watcher a 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: long time ago. Do you know, let's put the film 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: on bro. That was my famous statement. Well, Greg and 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: I are kind of kindred spirits in that way, so 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: we had a lot to talk about. We talked about CJ. Stroud, 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: We talked about the NFL at large quarterbacks. We talked 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: about the young quarterbacks that are in this particular draft 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: of what this draft could yield from that standpoint. Check 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: out our conversation with Greg Coussel of NFL Films right here. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: Greg co cell NFL Films, joining us now here at 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: the NFL Scouting Combine. Greg, great to see it, Great 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: to see you guys as always. Yeah, it's always fun 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: to catch up. And here we are again. Johnny says, 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 3: it's not a quarterback draft, and look, quarterbacks are something 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about throughout the course of the conversation. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: But your thoughts on observing the Houston Texans this year? 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: The season did not end the way we wanted it to, 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: but a lot of good things to remember. They won 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: ten in a row, including the playoff game. It flamed 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: out of New England. 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Greg, Well, to be honest with you, they're 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: one of my favorite defenses to watch. 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: You know. 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 4: That's the thing that stands out most when I watch 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: the Texans. 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: You know, They're They're. 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 4: One of those defenses that I would think that most 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: people would probably say they're not one of the most 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: complex defenses. 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: But I think that. 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: Demico does such a great job situationally, you know, so 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: it's not as if their high percentage blitz that they're 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: just going to come out and pressure you. But I 66 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: think situational football is where they're so good on defense, 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: and then they just have personnel. Like I started talking 68 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: very early this season, maybe week three or four, that 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: I thought that Bullock was the best post safety in 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: the NFL. 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Now. 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: I remember doing him coming out of USC and he 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: was a post safety and I just thought to myself, 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: that's the way he should be deployed in the league. 75 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: Now as the season went on, they'd moved him down 76 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: in the box a little bit more, you know, they 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 4: because obviously can't just do the same thing every week, 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: and he's capable of that because he does have an 79 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: aggressive mindset. But just as a pure post safety, I mean, 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: I don't think there's anybody better right now in this league. 81 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny. I remember years ago having 82 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: a conversation with Dan Quinn when it was the Legion 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: of Boom years and asking him, you know, who's the 84 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: most important player on your defense? And he didn't hesitate. 85 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: He said, Earl Thomas, because he makes up for any 86 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: mistake we make in front of him. And you know, 87 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: a lot of times, even watching film, you don't know 88 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: what specific mistakes might be made, you know, because they're 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: not glaring. You know, you and know how it goes. 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: You know, a guy might just take his eyes maybe 91 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: in the wrong place, and he's a step behind. 92 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: Sometimes you just don't know that. 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: But when you have a player like Bullock on the 94 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: back end, he can just compensate and camouflage for any 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: mistakes in front of him. 96 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 5: He's so good. 97 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: And the other part of that defense we all know 98 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: about Hunter and and and Will Anderson and Will Anderson, 99 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: you know, speed to power. I think he's maybe the 100 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: best in the league. But those d tackles, to me, 101 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: were overlooked all season long. I mean, Tommy t Rankins Edwards. 102 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: I mean, these guys, they were dominant players inside, and 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: you know, we tend to focus on the pass rushers, right. 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty remarkable that the Neil Hunter had 105 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: four and a half saxon college and now he's got 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 4: what like one hundred and fifteen in his NFL career. 107 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: When we signed and we signed to Neil, I went 108 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and I found my scouting report. Yea, And you're sitting now. 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: For people people in Houston. 110 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: Know, but for a lot of people out there that 111 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: don't know, Danil walks up and he's got arms like 112 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: legs like fans popping out like he is the most 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: put together guy. And He's sitting two feet from me 114 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: right and I'm reading him his scouting report for going 115 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: into his draft, whichever year that was, and as I'm 116 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: reading it, I'm realizing, Oh, I'm reaching a point where 117 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: I kind of criticized him right here. And all of 118 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: a sudden, I finished it and there's like this five 119 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: second pause and he goes, that's dead on, and I. 120 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: Was like, oh God. 121 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: And my point in bringing that up is he was 122 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: not a ready made pass rusher coming into the league. 123 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: He was not. 124 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: He was an athlete, a freak zoid with length and 125 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: did things and his game has just rounded into shape 126 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: with his pass rush moves, et cetera. 127 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: We saw there was a. 128 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: One of the TV's on we were in here yesterday 129 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: and it had the Lions trading for Miles Garrett and 130 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: Mark asked me a question. He said, Daneil Hunter and 131 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior or Garrett and Aiden Hutchinson. 132 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, And then it hit me. 133 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: And this is a way to talk about those tools, right. 134 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: Are they the best duo or they one of the 135 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: top two or three best duos? How do you look 136 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: at Danil and will across. 137 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: There in comparison with the league there, I mean, again 138 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: without going through every single team, which you know we 139 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: can't right now, they're certainly right there. I mean, and 140 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: they're different because because Anderson is just I mean, he 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: is speed to power. You know, there's a couple of 142 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: guys like that, Jared versus the Rams is like that. 143 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: But Anderson is just I mean, he is so strong 144 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 4: and plays with such incredible leverage. 145 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he is a force. And then Hunter. 146 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: Hunter can do speed to power at times, but he's 147 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: he's a little more gumbish. He's a little more bendyish. Yeah, 148 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, they're just different players. And 149 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: then they've gotten good snaps from other guys, you know. 150 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: And again, I don't know, I'm not into the free 151 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: agent mode yet. You know, I've been watching college players. 152 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: But they got good snaps from Barnett, they even got 153 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: good snaps from Horton. You know, They've got good snaps 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: from other players, you know. So it's been a nice rotation. 155 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: But I just want to reiterate those d tackles because 156 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: no one talks about him. I mean, you guys probably do. 157 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: You're in Houston, but around the league, no one talks 158 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: about him. And I've been talking about him since early 159 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: in the season because they stand out on film every 160 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: single week. 161 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: Greg Cosell with Us, Greg CJ. Stroud. 162 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: You watched him play in the playoffs, regular season, and 163 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 3: you watched him play in college and all tiah pro career. 164 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: So your thoughts on where he's at right now, where 165 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna go. 166 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: He's he's kind of an enigma wrapped in a riddle 167 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: to me, you know. I mean, we saw him play 168 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: as a rookie. I remember it might have been week 169 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: two in his rookie season. I think they played the 170 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: Colts if memory serves me correctly, week two in his 171 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: rookie season, and just the anticipation throws and the confidences 172 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: which he threw. I just sat back and went, Wow, 173 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: this guy has exactly what it takes to be a 174 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: high level pocket quarterback, because that's what he is. I mean, 175 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: he's not a statue. But if he's gonna be a 176 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: great player, it's gonna be as a pocket quarterback. I 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: think we'd all agree on that, right. He's not gonna 178 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: be a playmaker. He's a pocket quarterback and over these 179 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: last two years. I mean, I don't know what's in 180 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: his head, none of us do, but it just seems 181 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: like he's playing so fast, Like you know, mentally, everything 182 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: has gotten speeded up, which speeds it then everything up physically, 183 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: And I don't know what the answer is. He has 184 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: moments where you look at him because he throws a 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: beautiful ball. I mean, if you're just talking about though 186 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: he throws a football, he might be top five in 187 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: the league. But he just everything seems to be fast. 188 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: And I don't know what the answer to that is. 189 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: I'm not a coach, you know, I'm not with him 190 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: every day, but he clearly has the talent, that's not 191 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: the issue. It's just something is sometimes I watch him 192 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: and I always sometimes I feel like he's inventing pressure. 193 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: You know, when you're a pocket quarterback, you have to 194 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: be able to throw in what we call you know, 195 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: people have different terms noisy pockets, money pockets, dirty pockets, 196 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: and he just has not done that well the last 197 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: couple of years. 198 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Greg. 199 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: In THEFC South, it's changed a little bit. Jacksonville's really 200 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: good this year. Indy started off the years yeaher one 201 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: team in the league and kind of faded. The team 202 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: that interests me this year because they've got money, they've 203 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: got Robert Solids and head, and I think they can 204 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: do some things. What did you see from cam Ward 205 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: as his rookie season, war On because he's a little 206 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: he's different than CJ. Right, but he's got arm strength 207 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: on arm strength? Do you think of cam Ward as 208 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: the year world? I thought he clearly improved. I think 209 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: he's got some things that you really have to focus 210 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: on as a coach in terms of mechanics, because you know, 211 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: his lower body mechanics tend to be erratic. I think 212 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: at times because of that, he drops down so low 213 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: to throw the ball, so like a six one and 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: a half six to two guy, if he throws it 215 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: like he's five to ten, And I think you really 216 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: got to work on that. Now, maybe that's the way 217 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: he throws it and you can't fix it, but I 218 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: think you got to try to work on that. But 219 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: I think in terms of and I've gotten a chance 220 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: to be around him, so I've talked to him, and 221 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: he definitely has the right mentality. 222 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: He's he's mentally tough. You know, he has what it 223 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: takes to be a good quarterback. And he clearly improved. So, 224 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: you know, I think with Dable there, I think back 225 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: to what Dabele did with Josh Allen early in Josh 226 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 4: Allen's career. And the one thing about Dable is he'll 227 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: push the ball down the field, and I think that's 228 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: cam Ward's game. I think cam Ward is an aggressive 229 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: mindset quarterback and wants to push the ball down the field. Now, 230 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: you made a great point about the cap space. It'll 231 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: be very interesting to see what they do in the 232 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: off season. But I think because they need a lot, 233 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: and you guys know when you need a lot, you 234 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: can't fix everything in one off season. That's not possible. 235 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: So I'm very anxious to see what they prioritize. You know, 236 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: that'll say a lot about what, you know, what they 237 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: think of themselves. 238 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: Greg, What about Trevor Lawrence, because again another guy you've 239 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: watched forever. Yeah, it was looking not so good, then good, 240 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: then not so good again, and now a lot better 241 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: because they won the division. They want a big run. 242 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: And he looked good after they lost with the Texans. 243 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: They didn't lose again until the playoffs, and he was 244 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: really starting to put some things together. 245 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: And I've always been a big believer in coaching, and 246 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 4: I think that, you know, Liam Cohen obviously did a 247 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: great job with that because you know, it might be 248 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: cliched to some extent, but I think what the really 249 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: good coaches do is they really define the res and 250 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: the throws for the quarterback so that when the quarterback 251 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: hits his back foot, he knows where to go with 252 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: the football. Now, is can you always throw it to 253 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: the primary? 254 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: Go? 255 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 7: Of course not. 256 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: But the way when you're sort of in the McVeigh 257 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: Shanahan school, which is what Liam Cohen is, it's a 258 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: very choreographed offense. 259 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: You know. 260 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: It's in other words, you're not asking receivers like in 261 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 4: the Tom Brady offense, where hey, they're playing off the 262 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: leverage of this guy, let's see what you do. 263 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: You know, it's not that it's. 264 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: Choreographed so that, hey, you hit your back foot and 265 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: ideally the primary is there, you throw it. If the 266 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: primary is not there, you just go to number. You know, 267 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: it's more of that, and we won't get into all 268 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: the details of that, but you know, it's more of 269 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: that pure progression stuff, right, you know, and everything is 270 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: really tightly choreographed, and I think for for Trevor Lawrence, 271 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: he needed that because he's not a guy to me 272 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 4: that can get stuck in the pocket. Because when he 273 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 4: gets stuck in the pocket and there's people around him, 274 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: he tends to lengthen his stride. He tends and then 275 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: his arm is late and he ends up being a 276 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: little scatter shot. He needs to play within the rhythm 277 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: of an offense. Now, theoretically all quarterbacks do, but some 278 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: more than others, you know, Like to me, Josh Allen 279 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: doesn't always have to play in the rhythm in the 280 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: offense to be a good player. You know, some guys can, 281 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: some guys can't. Trevor in those games, you know, once 282 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: those eight or nine whatever it was, he just looked 283 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: like such a rhythmic player. And I think that comes 284 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: back to coaching. 285 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to watch them now. 286 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: Throughout the twenty twenty five season, Drake made New England 287 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories in the league. Then they 288 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: got to the playoffs and I know they beat US 289 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: and Drake had a few touchdown passes that game, but 290 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: he didn't. 291 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Look great against the Chargers. No, didn't look tremendous against US. 292 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: Didn't look great in Denver, but obviously big snowstorm and 293 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: then the Super Bowl. 294 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Hits and he has a rough night as a As 295 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's watched him, I'm sure a million domes. 296 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 297 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: Do you think that was a result of just during 298 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: the season not playing defenses like the ones he faces 299 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: in the play Else? Do you think there was something 300 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 2: that was going on with the offensive line that was 301 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: impacting him? Do you think this is one of the 302 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: situations where he can bounce back from whatever happened in 303 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs? 304 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 305 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: Now, again, that's a totally different offense where you know, 306 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: you're you're giving him all the answers to the test 307 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: and then he has to figure out what's appropriate in 308 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: that given game, right, you know that's totally different. 309 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: From what they question, right, so I can have the answer, right. 310 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. That's different from like the Mcveighanahean approach. It's 311 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: a whole different school of thought in teaching a quarterback. 312 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: I don't think that what we saw toward the end 313 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: of the season is what he'll be. I think he's 314 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, was this year in some ways magical and 315 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: is it going to be the same every year? Probably not. 316 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 4: But I don't think that you can. You're gonna need 317 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: to worry about Drake May. I think he's because he's 318 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: got that mentality. He's going to be a good player. 319 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: This was a special season. Sure one could argue the 320 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: quality of competition. Obviously getting the playoffs, you played better players, 321 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: you know, better teams, better schemes you know. 322 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 5: But to me, I wouldn't be worried about him. 323 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg Cosell joining us, Greg, a few more for you. 324 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: As far as the Colts go, they reside in the 325 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: city we are in right now, and their quarterback situation 326 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: very iffy because you got Daniel Jones hurt coming back 327 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: and who knows what. 328 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 6: He's a free agent and he's a. 329 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: Free agent coming back to play, but where and it 330 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: could be here, you would think, because he did so well, Yes, 331 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: but will that happen again? 332 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: And we saw Riley Leonard in week eighteen. We thought 333 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: Riley Leonard looked pretty good. 334 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: Look pretty good. Yeah, I watched that date he. 335 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: Was making some place now the Texans sat guys as 336 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: the game went on, but I thought, maybe this is 337 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: somebody who they can have compete with whatever else is 338 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: available until Jones gets back. 339 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 6: If they do re sign Jones. I know there's a 340 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: lot going on there. 341 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: But your thoughts on the Colts, because they do have 342 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: a lot of talent still probably at the franchise Pierce 343 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: or do something of that nature, what do you think? 344 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: You know, I think that there's expectations here in this town. 345 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: As you said, we're sitting here in Indianapolis. 346 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 7: Now. 347 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: I don't think they would go into the season with 348 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: Riley Leonard as the starter because I think there's an 349 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: expectation that, hey, you know, look what we did last 350 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: year until Jones got hurt, that we were you know, 351 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: they were leading the division. Jones was having a phenomenal season. 352 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: Now again, that kind of injury you never know, and 353 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: who knows if someone's willing to pay big dollars or 354 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: if he he's going to sign a one or two 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: year deal and be back here. I think they would 356 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: love for him to be back. He clearly was comfortable 357 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: in the Shane steike In offense. If he's back and 358 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: can play at you know, relative full health, I think 359 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: their offense is pretty good. I mean, obviously they can 360 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: run the ball. They got a good old line. We'll 361 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: see what happens with Pierce because he's a really interesting 362 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: player to me. I remember when he came out of 363 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: Cincinnati and I really liked him, and you know, maybe 364 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: he's not. 365 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: A volume target, but he's an impressive player. 366 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: His numbers against us were ridiculous. Yeah, and he got 367 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: thrown out of the game in a third quarter. 368 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah Yeah. 369 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: And their defenses, you know, probably need some upgrades here 370 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: and there, but it's not a bad defense. So you know, 371 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: they're a legit team, but obviously you need a quarterback. 372 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: And I just don't think with where they are and 373 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: the expectations, particularly how well they played early, would be, Hey, 374 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: let's play Riley Leonard and see how it goes. 375 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, good point. 376 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: Greg. 377 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: One of the teams that we will face for the well, 378 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: we're actually going there for the first time in eight years. 379 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: It's a team that you live the closest to. 380 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody can kind of figure out 381 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: what's going out to Philadelphia Eagles, right. 382 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: Oh, so you guys go to Philly this year? Yeah, 383 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: Philly this year? Oh wow? 384 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: What is going on with Philadelphia Eagles? Are they moving? 385 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: Aj Brown? What are your thoughts about how things went 386 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: this year? Well, where they're going? 387 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: They made a clear decision this offseason, and they wouldn't 388 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: have made it unless they thought that Jalen Hurts could 389 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: do it. But they changed their entire offensive coaching staff 390 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: to sort of the McVey Shanahan approach right with the 391 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: coaches that they signed, So that is a one hundred 392 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: and eighty degree turn from what they were. Now, you 393 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: don't do that unless you think your quarterback can handle it, 394 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: because you know so they think he can. I guess 395 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: time will tell because we know that that offense is 396 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: so rhythm based and Jalen up to this point in 397 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: his career has not really been that kind of player. 398 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: But like I said, to do that, you have to 399 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 4: believe he can do it, you know, So I guess 400 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna find out. I mean, look, obviously, two years 401 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 4: ago when they won the Super Bowl, they had an 402 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: historic run game. You know, no one figured they were 403 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: going to do that again. But also no one figured 404 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: it would be bad. It was a bad run game 405 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: this year and the old line was not good at all. 406 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: Now we know Elane Johnson's coming back, but you know 407 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 4: he's thirty five, thirty six. Can he play a full season? 408 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 4: Lyndon Dickerson I mean, just as a human being. I 409 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: feel bad for the guy because he's going to be 410 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 4: the guy that when he's thirty five, it's probably gonna 411 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: have a tough time getting out of bed. Yeah, you know, 412 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 4: but he said he's coming back, so you know, we don't. 413 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: And obviously they have a new old loan coach, and 414 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: it's going to be taught totally differently, you know how 415 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 4: you know that's taught in that system totally differently than 416 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: what they were under Jeff Stalin. So there's a lot 417 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: of changes that are impossible to know. But obviously they 418 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't have made these changes because that's a building and 419 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 4: it's probably like your building now where you're now expecting 420 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: to win. This is not like, oh, let's see what 421 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: happens and hope we win some games. I mean that building, 422 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: and I know because I know a lot of people 423 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: in that building, well, you know, they're expecting to be 424 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: in a super Bowl every year, you know, So this 425 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 4: is not like, oh, let's see what happens and if 426 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: we win eight games, that's cool. 427 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: You know, that's not the way they're thinking. 428 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: Last one from me Ferdanda Mendoza. Yeah, I know you've 429 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: looked at him half. So he's going to be the 430 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: number one pick of the draft. Is he worthy of that? 431 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: You know, in some ways he's old school stylistically, He's 432 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: like Jared Goff. Okay, and GoF was a number one pick. 433 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: And he's had a great career, you know. I mean, 434 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: maybe people don't look at him and go, oh, he's 435 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: one of the top two or three in the league. 436 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: But I mean the guy, assuming he keeps doing this 437 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: for a number more years, I mean, the guy has 438 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: been a really good quarterback in the NFL. 439 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: Now, he's a specific. 440 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: Kind of quarterback, you know, clearly, but you know, I 441 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: think Mendoza falls into that category. You know, he can 442 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: run in a straight line and maybe pick up a 443 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: first down, but you wouldn't call him a playmaker. 444 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 5: He's a pocket quarterback, and you know. 445 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: I think that he's pretty strong at kind of the 446 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: disciplined craft element in the position, which I don't think 447 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 4: it's talked about enough. I'm on a little rant the 448 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: last this season and now into this way when people say, well, 449 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: so and so has got great traits as a quarterback, 450 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: and you know what what they tend to mean is 451 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: he can throw it hard, he can run but is 452 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: that what the quarterback position is in the NFL. That's 453 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: not what it is to me. You know, no one 454 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: talks to me. It's about nuanced detail, subtleties. It's a 455 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: disciplined craft, the mental game. Yeah, and I think Mendoza 456 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 4: can do that. 457 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 7: Now. 458 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit here and say's going to 459 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 4: be a great player. No one knows the answer to that. 460 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 4: But I think he fits more in that category. And 461 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: that's not a bad thing. That to me is a 462 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: good thing. I mean, don't you agree? 463 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: And I think I think the marriage if he and 464 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: Klik Kubiak too, I think I agree to be a 465 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, I really do. 466 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean we we had Mattchob in Houston for a 467 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: number of years. 468 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, look at yeah, and that's not the 469 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: most quote unquote athletic quarterback, but on boots and waggles. 470 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: And those he was running that offense, yes, exactly. 471 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: And I think that's what Fernando is gonna be in 472 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: and he's gonna run an offense and then. 473 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 4: Well and they need a line help because when Schob 474 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: was in with you guys, li'sn't arian foster the back. Yeah, 475 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: I mean you guys had a really good well, it 476 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: starts with the run game in that offense exactly. You know, 477 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: so Mendoz is gonna have to learn how to play 478 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: under center because that's turning your back to the defense 479 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: and play action from under center is a learn trade. 480 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean people just say, oh, they'll run play action, 481 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: but you. 482 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 7: Got to learn. 483 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: You know, if you're not used to turning your back 484 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: to the defense, that's a whole new world, particularly in 485 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: the NFL. 486 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: You know a lot of yeah, yeah, the. 487 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: Game speed's already gone up, and it's like he turning back, 488 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh right, right right, So you're getting you're getting used 489 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: all that. But I think people have asked me like, hey, 490 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: what about Fernando with Cuback, Like that's the best. 491 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: Could possible to have, That's the best move. 492 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: To start off with. 493 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: I think he would as opposed to being in you know, 494 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: like Drake May with Josh mc daniel's offense there hard perks, right, 495 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: I think that offense will fit Mendoza. Yeah, you know, 496 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: Mendoz is gonna make anything try and fit for him 497 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: because that's this kind of player he is, guy, he 498 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: is kind of competitor who he is. 499 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: I just think the click Kubiak system is going. 500 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: To and I've heard him speak and I think he 501 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: has a sense of understanding how to. 502 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: Play the position the right way. 503 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: You know, again, we'll see, you know, obviously their old 504 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: line is a mess right now, and you know, we'll 505 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: see what happens with Tree Agency in the draft. 506 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: As we speak, big snowfall on the East Coast. 507 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 6: Okay, everybody, Okay at home? 508 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah. 509 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: I had to come here a couple of days early 510 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: because I knew, you know, my wife said, we better 511 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: get you out of here now because you're just going 512 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: to be miserable for the next three days. So so 513 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: I came out early because you know, I had to. 514 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: Otherwise I probably wouldn't have been able to get here 515 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: till Wednesday or Thursday, and that kind of defeats the purpose. 516 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Greg, thanks so much for being with us. 517 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 5: I love talking to you guys. Thanks. 518 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: That is a ball noer right there, Greg Cossel NFL films. 519 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: He joins us each and every year right here in 520 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: Indianapolis for the combine. A lot of talk about quarterbacks, 521 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: but he doesn't watch just quarterbacks. I love listening to 522 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Greg talk about this Texans defense just absolutely amazing stuff. 523 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: But I thought there was some good stuff to learn 524 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: about c J. 525 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: Stroud as well from Greg Cosel's as all right coming up? 526 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: Our got JP Shadwick broke bread with him the first 527 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: night we got here, sat down with him to talk 528 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: about the Jags, talk about calling college football games, NFL games. 529 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: We talk about the business, but mostly the Jags. Right 530 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: here are Texans All Access coming up next? What does happen? 531 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: Everybody? 532 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from 533 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: that Texans Radio studio transported to Indianapolis, Indiana for the 534 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six NFL Scouting Combine. I'm your host, John Harris, 535 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Football Analyst, sideline reporter, draft analyst, Football Taker dot Com 536 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: is my draft side. You want to check all that 537 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: good draft info out. Obviously there'll be a plenty of 538 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: Houston Texas dot com. 539 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 7: Man. 540 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: We have caught up with some unbelievable names ball noers. 541 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: It's incredible. We just had Greg co sell on and 542 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Greg can break it down like nobody else. I mean, 543 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: that guy lives in the dark as he is watching 544 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: film all of the time. 545 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know there's gonna be somebody that 546 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: watch more film than me, but I think Greg co 547 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: Selt does that. 548 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: So hopefully you guys got that out of that first segment. 549 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: Joining us right now, this guy we have known for 550 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: a very long time, and a lot of times we've 551 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: come to the combine and we kind of put an 552 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: arm around JP Shaddwick and we tell him it's. 553 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Gonna be okay, man, it's gonna be alright. There have been. 554 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Times where he's had to do that to us, but 555 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: this year it was kind of this mutual admiration society, like, hey, 556 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: good year, JP, and he said, obviously the same back 557 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: to us. There's a lot of great stuff with JP Shadwick. 558 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: He calls games for Westwood One. He also calls games 559 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: for Touchdown USA College Football games, does pre and post 560 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: halftime for the Jacksonville Jaguars. There's a lot going on, 561 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: a lot of news even without the Jacksonville contingent here. 562 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen staying in Jacksonville, Tony Basselli stayed, James Gladstone 563 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: GM stayed in Jacksonville. Only scouts here to do all 564 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: the interviews and everything. JP kind of representing for the 565 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. We had a good time talking to him 566 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: about all things Jags twenty twenty five review and Jags 567 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: going forward to twenty twenty. 568 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Six tikelas and with US now JP Shadrick at the 569 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: scouting combine of Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars TV, Jaguars Radio, 570 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: Jaguars Jaguars Jaguars JP and also national radio, college games, 571 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: NFL games. Man, you do it all, all right? So 572 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: there's JP's resume and that's all we have for today. 573 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: Good night, everybody. Jeez, I mean, what is he not doing? 574 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: JP? You were wondering what we're gonna talk about? There 575 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: you go, is short time? 576 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 6: Give me your resume. 577 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 7: Apreciate that. 578 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: How many games did you do this year? All told? 579 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 8: It wasn't eleven something like that. I mean six, six 580 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 8: or seven college games on Touchdown Radio smaller national network, 581 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 8: but then four with Westwood. 582 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: One, but all the Jaguars pre imposed, all the Jaguars 583 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: radio during the week. And it was a heck of 584 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: a Jaguars season. So how worried were you when things 585 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: weren't going as well as they possibly could? 586 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 8: So it all started the day after the collapse in Houston. 587 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was where. 588 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 8: Okay, what's gonna happen here? Like how are people going 589 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 8: to walk around the building. In the past around there 590 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 8: people would freak out and melt down and like it 591 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 8: would have been a total collapse moment. How does this 592 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 8: new group, this new leadership, keep the locker room from 593 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 8: not losing and maintain some faith and realize that they're 594 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 8: the ones who let this happen. From the Jaguars perspective, yep, 595 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 8: like they're up seventeen, Like you guys let off the pedal. 596 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 8: We let off the pedal as play callers, and the 597 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 8: coach took a lot of the heat for that, and Okay, 598 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 8: so that brought everybody together and they go out the 599 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 8: next week and dominate the Chargers and find a way 600 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 8: to kind of find those sea legs again. And then 601 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 8: the momentum built from there and the quarterback played better 602 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 8: and there was a confidence both way between he and 603 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 8: the head coach that built that took some time to 604 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 8: really flourish, and once it did, look out and that's 605 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 8: where it turned. It was right after that Houston game. Obviously, 606 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 8: both team seasons turned with that game, and the last 607 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 8: two months of the season were just incredible to watch 608 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 8: both teams play like they did. 609 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: We kept thinking in Houston. 610 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: We knew, like after that game, I always go up 611 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: to Mark's office and we sit and chat about thanks, 612 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: and I was like. 613 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: They got the Chargers next week. Oh man, they're going 614 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: to get hammered. 615 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: But one thing I thought was interesting both I think 616 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: Gladstone said it, but I know Tony said it. And 617 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: I remember kind of jabbing at Tony on radio in Houston, like, 618 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: wait a second, bro. He said, this is the most 619 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: important game in Jaguar's history. And I just remember the 620 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: dude played in AFC championship games. 621 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: He can't be serious. 622 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: And yet I think it was a brilliant move because 623 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: it seemed like it ref focused everybody away from Houston 624 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: and back into hey, we got business take care of. 625 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: And then I remember we the next week we had Tennessee, 626 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: and I remember we were in Tennessee and we were. 627 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Like, the Jaguars are doing what to the Chargers? What's this? 628 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: He just kept getting worse and worse, and I can't 629 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: follow it as much. Down They're giving me the scores 630 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: and I'm like, and so you're right, it turned there. 631 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: But I feel like wassell he made a great move 632 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: and saying, look, this is the most important game they've 633 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: ever played. Because it turned out the way that it did, 634 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: it seemed like it was a Prussian comment. 635 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 8: That turned into a weekly thing with Tony because he 636 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 8: would come on our show on Thursdays called JAG's HQ, 637 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 8: where we you know, have him and James Gladstone our 638 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 8: GM on together for thirty minutes on Thursdays after doing 639 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 8: drivetime radio, and he would begin pretty much every show 640 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 8: with that line, Yeah, this game this week is the 641 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 8: biggest game in the history of the franchise. And it 642 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 8: turned into a meme on the internet and came outside 643 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 8: of the radio show. But he had been consistently saying 644 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 8: that on our show, and then it hit after the 645 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 8: Houston game, and then he kept doubling down on it, 646 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 8: and people who weren't aware were like, what does he 647 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 8: say in this idiot doesn't make any sense, Like what 648 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 8: are you doing? But it was consistent all year long 649 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 8: with Tony and his approach on that show and what 650 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 8: the approach should be in the building. It doesn't matter 651 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 8: if we went and lost last week, got the Texans 652 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 8: next week, you got to go play that game. Well, right, 653 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 8: you know, the Chargers are next week or whatever's next, 654 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 8: you know, And that's the most important game in the 655 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 8: history of the franchise is the next one. 656 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: What did you learn from the playoff game though? 657 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: And did the narrative on the way I mean, obviously 658 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: you didn't like losing in the playoffs, right, but how 659 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: did that affect the narrative going into the postseason, impossibilities 660 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: for improvement, change whatever in twenty twenty six. 661 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 8: Well, they were there in the game. I mean, they 662 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 8: were in it. If they win that game, they might 663 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 8: go to the Super Bowl. I mean they were that 664 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 8: confident and against anybody else in the AFC that if 665 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 8: they handle business against Josh Allen. 666 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 7: Then look out. 667 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 8: They had already beating the Broncos by two touchdowns on 668 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 8: the road. 669 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 7: Like they weren't worried. 670 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 8: About going to Denver. I mean everybody else in the 671 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 8: league was worried about it. Jack's weren't worried about that. Unfortunately, 672 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 8: big plays against the defense kind of blew up the game. 673 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 8: They were out of corners, you know, Jordan Lewis was injured, 674 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 8: didn't play in the game. Travis Hunter, who was out 675 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 8: the second half of the season. Those are your top 676 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 8: two corners and they're not out there in the playoff game, 677 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 8: and that was exploited down the field and that's part 678 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 8: of the reason why they lost it. They were very 679 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 8: confident in what the offense was doing and now they 680 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 8: missed a couple of pieces in the offensive line. 681 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 7: In that game. 682 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 8: Van Lanta didn't play, who turned into really a great 683 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 8: player who they expended. But they are on the doorstep. 684 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 8: They feel of being a consistent year after year division 685 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 8: title candidate, like going out and being that team that 686 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 8: can run the division. Texans feel the same way too. 687 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 8: I get that. So this is the great rivalry now 688 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 8: of the next hopefully the next five to ten years 689 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 8: in the AFC South. 690 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting after the loss of Buffalo 691 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: JP because of the way it happened. You know, you know, 692 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: Josh Allen with the touch push getting in the end 693 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: zone and then Trevor Thorn interception at the end, and 694 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, obviously. 695 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: You're scrambling at the end. 696 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: But it felt like in a situation like that, in 697 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: most cases, there's gonna be a lot of vitriol about 698 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: the Jags had the opportunity to win it, blah blah blah. 699 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: They went on, But it felt like from Afar the 700 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: narrative was look we didn't get this one, but we 701 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: are set up to go win the next one and 702 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: the next one after that. 703 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 7: And a lot of people made earlier in the game. 704 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 8: He went forward on a fourth down instead of kicking 705 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 8: a field goal early the game, and that's just gonna 706 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 8: be liam. 707 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, the people have to get used 708 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 7: to that. 709 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: It's a lot of people in the league, Ran. 710 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 7: Campbell, all those guys right, so Lytics and there. 711 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 8: We'd rather give them the ball at their own seven 712 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 8: instead of take three and they'll get it at the 713 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 8: forty or thirty five. Got out and then they just 714 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 8: kicked whatever, right, and usually that works out when it's 715 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 8: Josh Allen who goes for ninety two yards on the 716 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 8: next drive and a touchdown. It kind of flipped the 717 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 8: momentum of the game early. That's just kind of how 718 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 8: it went. So they're right there. They feel like they've 719 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 8: got to kind of figure out a few things on defense. Yeah, 720 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 8: questions about running back now with Etn probably not coming 721 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 8: back and the receivers are now set up for a while. 722 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 723 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: JP Shadwick joining US Jaguars media. All right, the Colts 724 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: will they be back? I don't even know what back is, 725 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: how do you think they're going to do this year? 726 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Go back to the seventy and one or whatever they were, 727 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: or back to the backsliding second half of the season. 728 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: Colts. 729 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it, but your 730 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: thoughts on their situation, JP, Oh. 731 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 8: He played two different quarterbacks last year. I mean Philip 732 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 8: Rivers started against the Jaguars in Week seventeen or what we. 733 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Thought we thought we had. He had you beat, Like 734 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: he's got the Jags beat. 735 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: It was a little iffy for a moment. That's a question. 736 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 8: That's where that's the number one issue and has been 737 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 8: for the last five whatever six years since Andrew Luck. 738 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 8: They've had what twelve different starting quarterbacks since I mean. 739 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Even before that Ballot took over in seventeen, and he's 740 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: had a different starting quarterback every year, right and the like. 741 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: There have been multiple years in there where he's had 742 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: two and even three started different starters during the year. 743 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, always feels like they have a couple of receivers, 744 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 8: you know in the running games there obviously with the 745 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 8: running back and the defense has some moments, but you know, 746 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 8: they're the third place team in the division. Obviously, Tennessee's 747 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 8: got a long road a ho and he's there, and 748 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 8: it's the Jags and the Texans. The Colts are kind 749 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 8: of that, you know, they can't have a quarterback. 750 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 751 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: It does set up the division very well for the 752 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: Jags and Texans as far as the rivalry goes. 753 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 6: Could be a primetime game between the two, you never know, could. 754 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 8: Be a Thursday Week two, get it out of the 755 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 8: way game. That's how the network usually handles that, right, 756 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 8: they're smart. 757 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: It'll be week fifteen and eighteen. That's what they'll do. 758 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sunday night, Monday night eighteen. Oh yeah, come on, 759 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: that's what That's what they need to do. 760 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 7: That's a football exactly. 761 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: But at least I mean look, AFC saw that two 762 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs. Yeah, so yes, you know that's 763 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: more than the ACC. Oh no, the ACC did get 764 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: one into the college football playoffs. 765 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: They got one. I forgot there. He did get Miami. 766 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: JP also do all this national radio. What was the 767 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: best game you called this year on national radio? College football? 768 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 7: Oh, college football? There were a couple. 769 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 8: Week one, we were down in Miami and Notre Dame 770 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 8: Miami went down to the wire field goal with the 771 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 8: end from a transfer kicker who had never made one 772 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 8: pass like thirty eight yards in Florida Atlantic and he 773 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 8: hit the forty something yard to win it. And Ruben 774 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 8: Bain went off in that game. He had an interception. 775 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 8: The pass rush all game long and he had it 776 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 8: was like a tipball outside the numbers and he runs 777 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 8: to the football and he's there on the deflection, and 778 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 8: you know, three hundred pounds of human catching an interception 779 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 8: and running down the sideline. It's like, what is he 780 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: doing out there? That's when your eyes open. That was 781 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 8: cool to see. We also had the Iron Bowl. Alabama 782 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 8: rallied and drove the field at Auburn to win that game, 783 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 8: which was a remarkable always a remarkable environment. So those 784 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 8: are the two best college games. 785 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, JP, you talked about Etn as a free agent. 786 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: It feels like he's on the way out. Patrick Maholmes 787 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: following him on Twitter, by the. 788 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: Way, so they're now one of those So I guess 789 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: he's going to the Chiefs at that point. What are 790 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: the needs for the Jags. We talked about this a 791 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: little bit at dinner last night. Talked about corners right back. Now, 792 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: maybe you. 793 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: Got Tooton, you got Allen. I like that duo. 794 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: When they drafted them, I was not real happy because 795 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: I fell out that the Quinn was one of the 796 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: most slept on running backs there was Tuton. 797 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 1: We know it's got the speed. What are the needs 798 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: for the Jags going to twenty six? 799 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 7: You know it's funny you're talking about running backs. 800 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 8: We didn't really see his speed breakout until the last 801 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 8: couple of weeks of the season. He was running over 802 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 8: guys like he was between the tackles, hard nosed running back, 803 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 8: which I didn't quite expect because you heard about his 804 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 8: four to three speed and all this stuff. He didn't 805 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 8: really break it open until very late. And Laquin Allen 806 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 8: is like the toughest guy on the block. He's the 807 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 8: guy who want to take in the alley with you, 808 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 8: and he passed protection and all those I mean, he 809 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 8: does not care, like he's in Max Crosby's face, like 810 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 8: chirping at him, what are you doing, rookie, give me 811 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 8: a break? But he can get under guy's skin and that. 812 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 7: That was a key. 813 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 8: Running back is gonna be big if Etn is not back, 814 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 8: which it just doesn't feel like there's enough money on 815 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 8: the table for that, and I think there's some questions 816 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 8: about his consistency between the tackles, great outside, great in 817 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 8: the you know, the wide passing game, and likes to 818 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 8: bounce it out and all that. But you're gonna pay 819 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 8: ten to twelve whatever it is for running back a year, 820 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 8: you need to have more than that. And that's my opinion. 821 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 8: And then the other one is linebacker. What are they 822 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 8: gonna do with Devin Lloyd is not back, which he's 823 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 8: depending free agent as well, and that's gonna be a 824 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 8: lot of money really for one year of production. 825 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, j. 826 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: The count when you can, No. 827 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 8: You can always get more cornerbacks because we know how 828 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 8: those guys went down. But they also have Ransaw coming 829 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 8: back where they drafted last year at safety. He was 830 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 8: injured in training camp, didn't play. Travis Hunter should be 831 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 8: healthy and back. They'll they'll put him on defense mainly 832 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 8: next year. It feels like, so those are two answers 833 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 8: that they feel they have on the shelf. 834 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So schedule wise, the Texans play the Jags in 835 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: North Florida. 836 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 6: Has the London game been announced? Not an opponent, right? 837 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 7: I think it's soon. 838 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 8: I think it's because up still going to I think 839 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 8: they announced the Munich game earlier today. Yes, Lions, Lions 840 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 8: are in. I think the Bucks are playing that, I believe. 841 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 7: I don't know if that's. 842 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: Won't the Texans because we don't play the Lions at all, 843 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: so that's good. 844 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 8: And then I'm gonna guess it's probably this week they'll 845 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 8: announce the London games or opponents or or whatever. I 846 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 8: think the Jags are going to play a couple, all right, 847 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 8: So playing at home? What is the stadium situation? Because 848 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 8: I know massive overhaul, So what are we looking at here? 849 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 8: The Titans that opens in twenty seven? 850 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: Correct? We know the Bills open this year. Trying to 851 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: keep track of all this stuff. The Jags though, tell 852 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 3: me JP Jags new stadium. Well, same stadium, renovated for the. 853 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 6: Seventeenth time in its history or something. 854 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, it opens in twenty twenty eight, So this coming 855 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 8: season there will be thirty eight thousand seats Lower Bowl only. 856 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 857 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 8: And then in twenty seven they will play elsewhere, most 858 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 8: likely in Orlando at Camping World, and then probably a 859 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 8: couple in London that year as well. In twenty seven, 860 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 8: and then stadium is open for business in twenty twenty eight, 861 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 8: the concourse will be about three times as wide as 862 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 8: it is now. 863 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 7: Wow. 864 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 8: Everything inside will be totally renovated. They'll have suite level 865 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 8: on the field, like a lot of these new places 866 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 8: have now, or premium spaces. Capacity will come down a 867 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 8: little bit. It's in like the mid to high sixties. 868 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 8: Now it's like sixty eight, probably about sixty two. 869 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 3: You have some of those areas now, though you did 870 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: do in the club level midway up some slub areas. 871 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 6: Swimming pools, yes or no. 872 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 7: I think they're staying. 873 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 6: Yes, they should stay. 874 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 8: Yes, and technically they are spa lounges. What's something. 875 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: It's not the swimming. 876 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: There's some kind of law because you can't say swimming 877 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 3: or pool pool imply something. 878 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 6: Listen, I've been up there. It's a small pool. It's 879 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 6: a pool. There's two pools, spa lounges, pond. 880 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 7: The pond is probably good for you. 881 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I said once on the air 882 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: JP about those pools, because one had little kids in 883 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: it and one had like some kind of babes in it, 884 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: you know, like models or whatever. 885 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 6: I said. 886 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: One of them looks murkier than the other. The one 887 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: with the kids. I wonder why anyway, because you can 888 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: see the water front. Yeah, anyway, you have to be there. 889 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 3: But it'll be a nice place. When they open it. 890 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 8: Up, it'll be roof opening your corners. So yeah, it's 891 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 8: it'll it'll alleviate the heat issue in September, in August 892 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 8: in the preseason games. 893 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: No more directions, one more for you September and Week 894 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: three in Jacksonville is salty. We've done that two the 895 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: last three years, and that is salty. 896 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 7: Yeah. 897 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: Tell me give me the Chamber of Commerce elevator pitch 898 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 3: for Jacksonville right now as a place to visit JP 899 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: visitors in Houston. I know you live there, but I 900 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: want to hear his version of it to visit. 901 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like a long weekend. 902 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, go for it. 903 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 8: Some of the best golf courses in the country, that's correct, 904 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 8: including Sawgrass, but there are a lot of other public 905 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 8: ones that are nearby that are incredible. They're in Saint Augustine. 906 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 8: The whole area. Beaches are not as crowded as everywhere 907 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 8: else in Florida. You know, the Panhandle beaches get crowded. 908 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 8: Dustin Fort Walton, Pensacola obviously down South, totally different vibe. 909 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 8: It's easy to get around on the beaches in North Florida. 910 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 8: And if you like fishing on the river, we got 911 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 8: both kinds of fishing. We got freshwater, we've got salt water. 912 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 8: We've got great weather most of the year. It was 913 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 8: freezing below freezing overnight from about three days in a 914 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 8: row a couple of weeks ago, and that's about all 915 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 8: we're gonna get. So the weather is always fantastic. 916 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: Like Houston really in that way. 917 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: So that's why you should tell people we're in the 918 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: same similar latitude line. 919 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: So you got it. There were a lot of similarities. 920 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 8: There's a lot of growth south of town in Saint 921 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 8: John's County, just north of Saint Augustine. There's been a 922 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 8: lot of houses being built down there, and it's an 923 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 8: easy commute. Traffic's not crazy, and yeah, it's a great 924 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 8: place to live. No state income tax either, Y know 925 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 8: about that. 926 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know for the weekend and hanging the beach, 927 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: it's a good thing. 928 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: Like just going down hanging the beach, eat good dinner. 929 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: You could see food come back. 930 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: I've played the seventeenth once and I did make it 931 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: out to the Green, but I three putted. 932 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Sawgrass JP. Thanks so much for joining us. 933 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 6: We appreciate you to see you guys. 934 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate you. We'll talk to you again soon. 935 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 2: Even without the Jacksonville contingent here, Jacksonville has dominated the news. 936 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: But they will play two games in London. It was 937 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: announced today. So my guess is they'll play back to 938 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 2: back weeks in London. They'll play one at Tottenham, they'll 939 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: play one at Wembley. Now, the one at Tottenham they 940 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: will be the visiting team. The one at Wembley they'll 941 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: be the home team. So there's still a chance, still 942 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: a chance the Texans could play the Jaguars over in Wembley. Now, 943 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 2: we have been at the Combine. 944 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: Newers years and the year. 945 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: We ended up going to Wembley to play the Jags, 946 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: we found out that here at the Combine it got 947 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: to be kind of known amongst the Jaguars people. 948 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: They kind of shared it with us. 949 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: Now, I will say there was a couple of years 950 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: ago we were supposed to go to London to play 951 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: the Vikings. 952 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: The Vikings people are like. 953 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 2: Hey man, we'll see you guys in London, and then 954 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: it didn't happen. We ended up playing in Minneapolis and 955 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: got smoked that day in twenty twenty four, So don't 956 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: know we could be that particular team. The Commanders were 957 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: announced as one of the overseas teams as well, so 958 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: we have one opportunity left now. We said this off 959 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: the air with both JP. Mark and I were talking 960 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: and I said, look, it is a fatal compfully to 961 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 2: me that if, especially if we're not that team that 962 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: goes to Tottenham, then at twenty twenty seven, when we 963 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: get back to having the nine games, that one of 964 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: those will we will be the home team down in 965 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 2: Mexico City. 966 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: Just my hunch, that's what I think. But you know, 967 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: we'll throw it out there. 968 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: But the Jags will announce today we'll play two games 969 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: in London back to back. 970 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Kind of like the Vikings. 971 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 7: Did. 972 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 2: Talk to my buddy Paul Allen about that and we 973 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 2: talk about it on the air with him, but they 974 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: weren't Dublin then they were in London, and he said 975 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: it just got long, and that's what the Jags have 976 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: to do. 977 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: It just gets long being over there, so they'll have 978 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: to put up with that. 979 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: That news announced that Jags will play two games in London, 980 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: one at Tottenham, one at Wembley. Opponents to be determined, 981 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: but there's still one final ping pong ball that's got 982 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: to be chosen out. 983 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: Is that the Texans. We'll find out uh later in 984 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: the week. 985 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, it's go around the NFL with playing in 986 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: news happening, especially at the Combine. 987 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: We'll touch on all that next right here in Texas Access. 988 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: What's up and everybody, welcome back to this Wednesday at 989 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: issue of Texans all Access, our last segment before we 990 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: turn it over to Area forty five. As we are 991 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis, Indiana. Workouts at the Combine start Thursday, 992 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 2: So Thursday the workouts start happening, and this year it's flip, 993 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: so it's gonna end up being d line and linebackers 994 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: on Thursday. So there're gonna be some good times put 995 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: up today at the Combine, that being Wednesday. Rvel Reese 996 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: stu up and said, yep, doing everything, Sunny Styles is 997 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: teammade Ohio State doing everything, and those two are gonna 998 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 2: put up some flashy numbers. RVL Reese six three and 999 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: a half, six four two forty inside outside, he said 1000 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: today he wants to be an edge rusher, which I get. 1001 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: I think he's as a combo player as good as 1002 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: it gets, I think is an edge rusher. Only he's 1003 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: got some room to grow. But that's an athlete you're 1004 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: talking about. He's gonna definitely run the four four and 1005 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: she's gonna be one to watch. 1006 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: Now. 1007 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: He might be going by Vell Reese by this time, 1008 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 2: because that's what little Placard said, Vell Reese. 1009 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: But either way, Vell Reese, o'hiuse state sunny styles. 1010 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: They will be working out in full everything at the combine, 1011 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: as will Jeremiah Love. But it starts on Thursday, nine 1012 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: am Eastern eight. If you're into that sort of thing, 1013 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: I know people are like, you're. 1014 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 7: Such a dork. 1015 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: You go watch people run and stretch and like, yeah, 1016 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: I'm dork. I don't care. Doesn't bother me at all. 1017 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: In the earlier segment, I mentioned the Jacksonville Jaguars will 1018 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: be going over to London twice. I should say this. 1019 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 2: They're going over there once. They're playing over there twice. 1020 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: Also going over to London will be the Washington Commanders. 1021 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: They will be the two participating teams for the twenty 1022 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: twenty six NFL London Games Games will be played at 1023 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: Toddam Howsford Stadium. Jaguars will also go to Wembley, so 1024 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: they will. 1025 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 1: Go over there. 1026 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: They will play the back to back as I mentioned earlier, 1027 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: as the Vikings did last year. The Vikings played in Dublin, 1028 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: then they played in Tottenham. Jaguars will play in Hotspur 1029 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: Tottham Hotspur and then playing Wembley. 1030 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what or they'll be in. 1031 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: There's still a chance with that game at Wembley that'll 1032 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: be at Jaguars home game that that ends up. 1033 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: Being the Texans. A chance. I say that because our 1034 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: engineer for road broadcaster, iarn Ray Bold is watching it 1035 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: like a hawk. 1036 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 2: It could be the Texans, but usually we find that 1037 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: stuff out at the Combine. 1038 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: Didn't really know anything at the time. 1039 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Vikings, they will explore every opportunity for 1040 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: a quarterback. JJ McCarthy's still in the mix, but they're 1041 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: gonna look at everything imaginable at quarterback, Vikings Executive vice 1042 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: president Football Ops Rob Razinski said Tuesday at the Combine, 1043 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: what we do know is we need a level baseline 1044 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: quarterback play for us to be effective. A lot of 1045 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: this is has been JJ in an unfortunate situation with 1046 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: some of the injuries and things he's dealt with. But 1047 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna explore opportunity. Does that mean Kirk Cousins goes 1048 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: back to Minnesota? That would get all kinds of interesting. 1049 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 2: And I bring up Kirk Cousins because he is to 1050 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: be released on the first day of the new league year. 1051 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 2: New gm ian Cunningham spoke to the assembled masses and said, look, 1052 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 2: that's only fair. March thirteenth was the drop dead date 1053 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: where they had to make a decision on Kirk Cousins. 1054 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: They're gonna make it earlier to allow Kirk to get 1055 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: out there in free agency. See what's available. Kirk Cousins 1056 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: gonna be available to a number of teams. Now, see 1057 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 2: a bridge starter at this point is the guy you 1058 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 2: give two three years too? I would go that far. 1059 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: I think he ends up being a bridge quarterback. Maybe 1060 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 2: that is the right situation for him in Minnesota. He 1061 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: goes back to O'Connell. He kind of leads the way 1062 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: for JJ, shows him how it's done. JJ gets a 1063 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: chance to step back, stay healthy. Watch Kirk. 1064 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1065 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: Maybe Kirk is, you know, just ends up being kind 1066 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: of that voice in JJ's Ears. They go forward with 1067 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: the Vikings, gonna be looking at every opportunity and the 1068 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: Falcons no longer the home of Kirk Cousins. 1069 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for the show. 1070 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate Greg Cassel, NFL Films Guru and Jaguars Media stud 1071 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: JP Shadreck who joined us today on the show. And 1072 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: a big thanks to you guys for being here. Thank 1073 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: you so much. We'll have more for you tomorrow. Man, 1074 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: We've got so much left. Vikings Voice of the Vikings, 1075 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: Paul Out Voice of the Bears, Jeff joniak Ian Rappaport, 1076 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: James Palmer, Salcapaccio, silentde reporter for the Bills, Fran Duffy, 1077 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: one of the best draft experts you're gonna find, Bucky Brooks. 1078 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: We got all that coming to you rest this week 1079 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: beginning of next So hang in there and stay tuned 1080 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 2: right here. Texans all acts. I appreciate you guys. We'll 1081 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.