WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Assessing The Playoff Scenarios 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.680 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:10.520 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.960 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.280 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:25.439 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.560 Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, December eleventh, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.640 episode number ninety four. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.440 live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.080 talking Cowboys football today. We're telling to take a big 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.760 picture look today, look around the NFL, as we do 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.199 on every Tuesday. It's looking up for the Cowboys more 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.600 and more. It's it's looking like the Cowboys are going 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:49.920 to be in the playoffs. I think it's like a 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.159 ninety nine percent chance at this point they'll be in 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:57.560 the playoffs barring just some unforeseen just complete dismantling of 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.640 this team. They should be in the playoffs. But there's 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.760 still a lot that has to happen below them with 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.679 regards to the playoff team that maybe not the playoff 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.840 team that they will face, but that final sixth seed 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.440 in the playoffs. How's everybody doing this morning. I'm good, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.280 Derek Good, I'm good, good good. I wanted to talk 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.479 a little bit today about a couple of different topics. First, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.080 looking at the NFC, and we we were talking about 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.400 this before we went on the air. Dave made mention 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.560 of it yesterday. Really it's not so much about, you know, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.520 kind of whether you're you're the third or the fourth seed. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.959 It's much more about who's the fifth and the sixth seed. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.959 And last night, as you watched that game with the 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.440 two teams that right now are the fifth and six seeds, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.279 Seattle being the fifth seed and Minnesota being the sixth seed, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.840 it looks like there is an appreciable difference between the 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.560 quality of football being played by the Seattle Seahawks and 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.240 pretty much everybody else that's battling for that sixth spot. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.480 What's your assessment of the teams that are left. Of 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.520 all those teams that are left kind of battling for 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.800 that sixth spot, which of those teams do you think 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.280 is the scariest or the one that could pose the 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.200 most problems if the Cowboys did have to face them 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:10.680 instead of Seattle. Oh? Um, Eagles. But it wouldn't be 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.079 then though, right, I mean, I would be. The likelihood 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.840 of the Eagles right now is pretty small. And Dave, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.400 you mentioned that NFL that NFL playoff predictor. I played 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.080 around with that a little bit this morning. As far 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.880 as the way I was looking at it, the Eagles 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.960 basically have to win out and get help for them 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.000 to be able to get in on that sixth seed. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.720 And you look at that and it's like, I don't know, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.919 they got Houston, they got the Rams, it's gonna be 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.560 tough for them to get one win went out. The 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.359 Vikings are now six six one seven I think there's 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.639 six six and one, you're right, yeah, So why do 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.840 they have to win out like the Eagles are just 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.080 six and seven? Well, the the at least the I think. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.280 The thing about it is Miami would have to not 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.000 not Miami, I'm sorry, um, the Panther. No, No, it 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.840 would be the who was I talking about? Minnesota? Minnesota 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.160 would have to lose two of their final three. Philly 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.200 went out. But then there are other teams that are 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.760 in the mix. There two that could affect that, right, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.160 because you've got you've got Caroline, who's at six and seven. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.119 And when you start thinking about the schedule two, First 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.720 of all, Minnesota they don't have that tough of a schedule. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.240 Their final game is against Chicago, who may or may 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.200 not have something to play for at that point. But 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.000 before that, before those two, they have Miami at home 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.400 and then they play at Detroit. So the likelihood that 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.160 they lose both of those is probably not very likely. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.920 Probably a good chance that they win both of them, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.280 in which case, again it's going to be very difficult 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.240 for Philly unless they win out to be able to 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.920 catch them and jump over them because of that tie, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.640 Because the tie creates a whole different thing, because now 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.440 you're talking about half a game, half a win, or 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.160 half a loss. I hate it so much, And there's 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.720 only sixteen of these and they're all so important and 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.120 there shouldn't be ties. But the NFL cares more about 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.800 pleasing sponsors and getting games over with in a timely 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.600 manner than you know, the integrity of the competition. I 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.120 think that is just purely my opinion. I think it's stupid. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.320 I hate ties, and I hate that I have to 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.720 sit here and do calculations every time I look at 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.960 the standings because of it. Do you hate ties in 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.600 all sports? That doesn't seem like you get upset about 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.040 soccer ties. Soccer is completely different because you play forty 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.320 games and it's a point system instead of standings. I mean, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.000 if you got if you got a point for a 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.359 tie and win and three for a win like you 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.520 do in soccer, it's fine. And also it's still like 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.480 that either that's too hard to keep up. It's give 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.719 me a win loss it's not though, like in soccer. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.720 In soccer you don't even look at the wins and losses. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.760 You say points they have, but thirty points out of 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.040 how many games? And that's my that's my point. That's 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.560 to me, that's a problem. Like I want sports to 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.480 be about winning and losing, so wins and losses, it's 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.880 just wins and losses. Give me a win loss record 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.240 and I'll know how good you are. This is a 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.799 separate conversation, but there is no competition on planet Earth 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.080 that does a better job of deciding who is the 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.960 best team than soccer. Really, I don't know enough about 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.600 it to really argue that. I mean, forty forty games, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.640 there's no playoff. Whoever does the best of its thirty 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.560 eight games. But whoever does the best out of thirty 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.600 eight games, you have the highest point total. That's not fun. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.800 It's not it's not it's not fun at all. And 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.800 that's why the ratings aren't. It's high, especially here here here, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.839 they're they're high in the world. It's not fun at all, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.200 but it rewards the team that is the best from 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.839 the beginning of the seasons at the end. Yeah, purely 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.479 I get that. I just I sports is supposed to 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.800 be fun. I'd rather take the fun, So playoffs to me, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.280 I don't like sports without playoffs. I think college football 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.640 before playoff to where it is now with a playoff 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.320 infinitely better with a playoff than without im I'll contradict 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.640 myself all day. Playoffs are so much fun and they're 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.040 ingrained in me as an American, and I love them. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:58.440 I hate, hate, hate when mediocre, crap teams win the championship. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.719 I hate to this day, and I don't like the 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.400 New England Patriots. I hate to this day that a 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.039 nine and seven Giants team won that Super Bowl. It's 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.200 crap that could hate the Giants. I don't care. I 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.840 don't give a crap about the Giants. Either I grew 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.800 up a Saints, but let's just don't care about anybody 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.080 I talk about. When that happens, They're like, oh, we 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.080 got hot bull crap. Patriots were historically good. Let's bring 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.360 it back to the Cowboys because we can do that 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.920 right there. The nine and seven Giants team wasn't mediocre 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.240 at when they were playing. And that's that's what's the 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.920 beauty of what the playoff system gives you. It gives 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.599 you some room for eric, gives you a chance to 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.520 like figure some things out, gives you a chance to 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.760 maybe make a trade for a wide receiver in Oakland 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.080 and bring them to your team. So now at eight 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.080 and five, I don't think the Cowboys are a mediocre 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.680 team at eight and five right now. I know the 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.000 Saints wouldn't wouldn't think that way, And so I'm just 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.400 saying I think it gives you an opportunity. That's one 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.120 thing I hated about old college football. You know, you 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.599 lose early. Oh U Texas played early. The loser had 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.640 no shot. Now you have a chance to kind of 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.240 rally back in as Oklahoma. Okay, so that you brought 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:00.960 me to this and actually I was gonna say this 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.919 this was gonna be I had a whole list of questions. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.280 This is gonna be the final question. The coude gras 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.000 you always but you bring us a list of questions 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.200 and we ruin it. No, No, but that's okay. That's 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.720 okay because I like the way this is going. I'm 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.560 gonna jump this question. I'm gonna just gonna jump on 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.120 this to the front. When you look at this team now, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.080 you have an elite running back, you have an elite 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.680 wide receiver, you have an elite pass rusher. You have 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:28.640 really good linebackers, really good secondary, pretty good offensive line. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.640 Is the quarterback good enough to take this team all 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.640 the way to the Super Bowl? Because a lot of 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.920 pieces are in place. If you look at super Bowl 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.240 champions over the last fifteen years, the Cowboys have more 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.720 pieces than many of those teams did. Is there anything 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.720 that could stop this team right now from possibly getting 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.440 all the way? Like, are they in the conversation now 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.400 of a team that can go all the way? I 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.280 know that silly, it's not starting. No, No, I'm saying silly. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.200 When you look at it from the reference of this 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.720 was a three and five team at one point in 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.360 a season, to where they are now. I know that's 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.520 ludicrous to even think that happens, But at this point 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.520 where you are right now, with the players that you have, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.560 is this seem good enough to go all the way 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.840 for the third time? I'll contradict myself and Nick's absolutely right. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.000 This isn't that team. Like you can watch any of 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.560 the games that they've won since the Tennessee game, and 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.800 week by week they have been so much better and different. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.040 I mean, they lead the league in third down percentage. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.200 Do you remember watching the team try to convert third 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.400 downs in the first month of the season. It was laughable. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.800 And that's just one example, Like they are not the 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.800 same team. NFL seasons are ever evolving and changing things, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.400 so it's a it's fun to talk about, like, well, 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.520 look at this transformation. But to say that this team 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.959 can't win playoff games because they struggled against the Seahawks 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.960 two months ago, like that doesn't matter. And when they 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.640 beat the Saints, that said to me that they can 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.679 beat anybody. I mean, they have the defense that can 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.640 stop an offense like that, and they their offense is 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.600 not special by any stretch of the imagination, but we've 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.600 seen it do enough to win five games in a row, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.439 stringing that together. They're gonna I mean, unless something miraculous happens, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.200 they're gonna have to win four games in a row 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.320 to win a championship. That that's a tall order for anybody. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.640 I mean, really, the Patriots and the Saints maybe, like 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.960 there's probably two teams out of twelve that are gonna 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.040 make the playoffs that really feel like they can do that, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.800 And that's the big question. But they can. I don't 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.440 think it's even silly with what we've seen in the 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.400 last month. The two areas I think that worry fans 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.760 the most, or maybe worry the Cowboys the most, is 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.040 just consistent scoring. And that comes to the with the 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.800 quarterback and down in the red zone and all that stuff. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.240 Is he gonna make enough plays? And the kicker, you know, 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.720 because you're gonna get to this part of the point 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:48.520 of the season where you know your kicker is gonna 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.280 have to be consistent, and I think he's he's pretty good. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.240 He is pretty good. I mean, when you look around 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.880 the league, guys miss guys missed extra points. You know, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.840 I think Tucker missed an extra point, didn't he um? 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.200 It happened often but missed an extra point that costs 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.320 them a game. Yeah. So I mean he's the best 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.520 in the league, and so it, uh, it happens. And 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.679 and I think that's one of those just hold your 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.040 breath type situations. I think this team is built for 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.440 a cold weather game because of the way they run, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.640 the way they pass. That's probably not gonna happen, though, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.000 because you know, if you you're gonna win, you're gonna 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.000 go to New Orleans or LA. So talk about control 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.160 climate either way, right, so you know end up in 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:34.000 a uh, don't do it? Three number three seed Bears 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.679 against the number four seed Cowboys and Soldier Field. Let's 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.720 do it. No, No, I wasn't saying it can't happen. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.760 I don't do it because I did not want to 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.800 go to ship. I would go in. You would love that, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.520 I would. Now, what if it was the NFC championship 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.320 game in New Orleans Cowboys Saints in the championship game? 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.160 Would that would that be fun for you? No, I 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.280 would be a nightmare. That would be so much fun. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.640 I would hate it. As you know, it's gonna be 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.400 the Sunday late game, which means on Bourbon Saturday night. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:08.320 That yeah, maybe right. I think anybody you think our 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.320 um sponsorship and team would would want to hit that trip. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.319 I'm assuming we're taking three planes. If that half somebody 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.760 I've never met would be on my in my seat 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.200 or next to me on the plane, for sure, I 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.680 would despise that. I hope it doesn't be like just 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.800 because you don't want to? Why because you just don't 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.319 want to? I don't get I do, like I when 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.520 the Saints play the Cowboys, it is a nightmare from yeah, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.319 he hate because and but I don't, honest, I don't 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.680 even care about that, Like I'm so far removed from 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.240 the fan aspect of it, Like I don't. I don't 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.480 know anything about the New Orleans Saints other than when 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.120 it's like time to you know, study them, and like, Okay, 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.679 Taysom Hill touches the ball five times a game. But 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.679 when the Saints play the Cowboys, everybody here thinks I'm 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.240 a trader jerk because I'm from New Orleans, Like, oh, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.400 you're probably rooting for the Saints, and everybody I know 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.000 from back home is like your dirty cowboy, gross, you're 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.280 a trade Like I am the bad guy on both 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.640 sides all week long, I don't get to win. I 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.720 don't get to feel good no matter what happens, and 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.760 if it happens in the playoffs, even worse. So just 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.839 keep that far away from me. That's kind of the 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.880 same way I feel about Houston from the standpoint that 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.520 I just I get a lot. I have to listen 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:19.120 to a lot from like old classmates from Houston who 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.120 are big Texans fans at this point, and it's just 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:23.520 like I don't even want to hear it. Like it's 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.160 just like they feel like I have to be the 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.000 target of all of their their whatever, like oh, it's 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.160 Cowboys versus Texans, and I'm like, I don't really care 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.480 about the Texas. Doesn't matter me one way or the other, 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.560 doesn't matter to This happened to me last night. I 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.560 was a Jersey Mike's getting dinner and got a guy 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.439 that worked there walked out of the back. I guess 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.160 his shift was over and he so he had on 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.800 his normal clothes and he had on a Saints hoodie 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.520 and a Saints beanie, and I mean it caught my eye, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.640 like you know, and I was just kind of looking 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.480 at the hoodie and he saw me, and he saw 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.439 me looking at him, and I'm wearing a big obnoxious 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.280 Cowboys beanie and like pumping his chest like yeah who that, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.280 Like it doesn't matter that y'all want whatever, And like 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.760 I froze out. I was like, wait, I'm from New Orleans, 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.480 like I just I thought, and literally he just he 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.320 didn't want to have anything to do with it. And 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.679 what am I supposed to say? Like I've got a 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.720 Cowboys badge and a Cowboys beanie. 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At the start, talking big picture 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.480 Cowboys rolling through the season at eight and five heading 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:54.000 to the playoffs, We think I think pretty sure they're 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.080 heading to the playoffs. If they aren't, it's gonna take 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.320 a meltdown of atastrophic purport. Just to be clear, for 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.400 them not to win the division at this point, they 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.840 have to lose out and Washington or Philly has to 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.800 win out. Yes, um, that would be the only scenario 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.960 under which the Cowboys don't win. So as of this weekend, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.880 if the Cowboys beat the Indianapolis Colts, they will get 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.400 their hats and they'll be riding back on the plane 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.880 with the NFC champs hats on and celebrating another division 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.880 time scenario that I don't like what's going in New York. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.120 And it's not locked down because I hate I hate 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.200 that one too. Absolutely, it's not. It's the noon gamet Indy, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:38.640 tough game, tough loss, flying back, Redskins just suck, and 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.120 they're gonna lose to the Jaguars and then wear me 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.360 on the plane in Philadelphia in LA while we're on that. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.400 That's the night game. It's for the night game. The 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320 night game. Okay, so you won't we'll be back before 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.960 the night games over all, right. I was thinking that 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.000 was an afternoon You thought maybe we land and well 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:59.680 we're the champs, guys. As a coach, Gert congratula. That's 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.800 not how That's not Garrett's style. I don't think he 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.680 would do that. I don't either. If they won the 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.880 NFC East, when we're on the plane, what would happen? 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.200 I don't think you. First of all, you know, who's 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.080 gonna tell us they lost? Robert Black? Yeah, I'm gonna say, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.000 somebody that's got the game on is gonna come. He's 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.480 been with the Cowboys of thirties, eight thirty nine years, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.800 never missed the game, neverous the practice. He's the director 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.399 of videos. Video like though that you could go that 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:27.000 long and not miss game unbelievable. Um, but he always 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.320 plugged in. He's always got somebody up in the cockpit 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.399 that's got something the game on. I'm sure that's against regulations, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.320 but um sure that's not something breaking the law here, Tammy, 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.360 I've never breaked the laws. Assumed he had a really 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.360 good internet commit sue. I thought he just had connectivity anyways. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.600 But they could lose the game to the Colts and 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.199 still clinch, and I mean that's very possible. Yeah, but 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.280 that's that's the night game, that's the night game. We 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.480 don't want to be sitting around at eleven o'clock at 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.840 night trying to write a story that they clinched. I mean, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.280 you might have to write it on the plane and 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.320 just if you eat it, you have it ready. That's 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.680 one to get ahead and right that they will lose 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.439 to the Rams. You can go ahead and write something 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.119 today about and just fill in the blank on the 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.360 details Sunday. I've already got Rob on a story right 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.240 right after the game. I turned around. It was like, Rob, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.680 can you go ahead and write Amari Cooper NFC Offensive 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.840 Player of the Week and just uh, it's coming. I 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:25.400 don't think anybody Thursday. They announced that Thursday, Wednesday, tomorrow morning. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.439 You know, I just thought about it. I don't know 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:28.760 what his numbers, so I didn't look at this, and 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.280 I looked at his numbers that he's gotten sit to 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.480 me on the Cowboys. I didn't see his numbers back 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.719 earlier in the season with the Raiders twenty for two something. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.399 There's a there's a chance touchdowns. Is he got to 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.000 get Pro Bowl just based off these six seven, eight games? Whatever? 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.200 Its because numbers aren't aren't horrible now, No, it's great numbers, actually, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.040 his numbers right now, he's at forty catches for six 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.919 hundred and forty two yards and six touchdowns through six games. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.119 That's averaging six catches, one hundred and seven yards and 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.680 a touchdown every game, actually averaging seven catches because it's 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.119 like six point eight. So yeah, you round that one, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.119 round it up. Yeah, sure, I don't like rounding it 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:05.680 up for that kind of stuff, but go ahead, okay, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.359 free I do. But but the point is he's having 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.919 a phenomenal what six game stretch with the Cowboys. You know, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.560 it's funny if the fans voted right now, if it 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.639 just was a fans vote totally, Zeke would not be 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.159 in the Pro Bowl. Really rerunning backs highly, there's not 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.040 that many spots. Kamara, Yeah, actually he would be fifth 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:32.480 because Kamara, Gurley, Barkley, and McCaffrey all have more votes. 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.760 Barkley has more votes. Yeah, yeah, Barkley's yeah, but his 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.400 numbers aren't Zeke's. Zeke's what first or second in rushing 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.840 right now? Votes? I know, I get that. I'm just 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.040 saying that's surprising to me. He's the new hotness and 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.080 he's on pace to have a thousand of each, which 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.680 that's crazy impressive. A thousand receiving last time, last time, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.840 I love he was like more like about seven eight hundred. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.080 He might have trailed off, but he was at one 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.840 point during the season he was on pace to have 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:06.560 a thousands of each. Cleveland take the running back whatever, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.320 that's fine. I gotta deal with him for ten years, Nah, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.160 maybe not five or six. Well, he didn't kill the Cowboys, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:18.080 did he? See what happens in the last game. But 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.159 you know how division is, you know how division is. 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.800 It's it's that's the Those are the games where great 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.119 players tend to not be as great a lot of 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.760 times because they play them so often, they just kind 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.280 of know how to deal with them. We even got 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.880 to the point you were, oh, yeah, no question, it's 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:34.719 not a big it's just, you know, going back to 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.680 what Derek opened the show with, just you know, can 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.960 this team win it all? Jerry did his Jerry Jones 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.880 did his morning calling with the one oh five three 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.200 radio station here, And I guess it's something Michael Irvin 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.520 was arguing about on NFL Network over the weekend. Is 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.560 you know the cliche is defense wins championships. Michael Irvin 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.040 is you know, no points win championships. You got to 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.280 score more points than the other guy to win the games. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.639 And Jerry was kind of right in the fence between 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.919 those who thought processes. So I was thinking about it, 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:07.080 and I was like, I absolutely believe defense wins championships, 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.040 just in the sense of to win in the playoffs, 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:11.639 you got to either win three or four games in 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.480 a row, and your defense has to be good enough 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.639 to keep you in those games. I mean absolutely, I 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.399 don't think you win a Super Bowl with a terrible defense. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.600 You doesn't have to be amazing, but it can't be 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.960 terrible to be opportunistic. The thing is, I kind of 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.720 see what Michael Irvin is saying, though, is you don't 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.879 have to have an amazing offense, but your offense has 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.800 to be consistent enough to show up three or four 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.399 times in a row and show up I mean a minute, 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.440 probably not even seventeen, like twenty to twenty seven points 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.000 in the playoffs playing those types of teams. You don't 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.680 see teams win playoff games of seventeen points very often, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.080 And that is what concerns me for this team, is like, 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.640 I'm pretty I'm very confident this defense can hold whoever 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:01.000 to twenty points or less. I'm not confident that this 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.679 offense can score twenty seven multiple times, even with what 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.000 Amari Cooper's added for them, because it seems like since 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.200 he's got it, they're often the offense is scoring. It's 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.000 not easy scoring, but it seems like they're scoring more. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.880 I mean, let's okay, twenty nine, six of which came 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:20.720 in an overtime period U thirteen not I mean, amazing win, 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.600 but not good enough. Twenty two against the Falcons, um 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.560 twenty seven against Philly, which whom I'm oh, third thirty one, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.119 So they can do it? Can they do it? And then, 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:32.800 like I said, they're probably not getting a buy. So 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.040 you're talking beating four good teams in a row. Can 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.560 they stack for good performances in a row? This instance, 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.719 they they've had four out of five, but they've scored 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.639 above what twenty seven. One of those teams has a 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.600 winning record. And I'd only bring this up because now 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.199 we're comparing that to what you're comparing it to and 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.840 having to go and beat the Saints, beat the Rams 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.560 or Bears or whoever. Um. I just I just feel 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.480 like if you have to go to the Superdome. That 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.960 that's the one thing that I don't I don't like 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.320 that at all. And it's not just about the Superdome. 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.439 I get it, the Cowboys have won there before and 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.200 all that. It's about this year's team already beating them barely. 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.439 I just think that's not what's gonna happen again with 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.399 breezing them and they're gonna have to it's gonna be 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.639 a different type of game. I don't like that. I 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.720 like going up to LA if you have to do that, 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.280 I like, And I don't mind the Bears. Okay, So 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.399 so here's the question, going back to what Dave was saying, 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.960 name teams for me that are more well balanced than 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.280 the Cowboys when you're talking about offense and defense. Obviously 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.479 the offense in this instance is not as good as 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.920 the defense. But when you look at every team, there's 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.560 probably that type of one's better than the other. Are 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.200 there teams out there that you think are more balanced 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.320 as far as when you try to factor the offense 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.280 in their defense, and then says in the Rams, I 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.200 think they're more balanced. Yes, if you think the Rams defense, yes, 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.840 I don't think the Rams defense up to whatno, were 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.360 they weren't supposed to be well because all the number 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.440 one picks and all those But I think that they're 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.840 they're really good. They're also they got the best player 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:07.640 in I mean, they got the best player in football, 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:09.840 no doubt about that. So when you have the best 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.960 player in football and didn't you know, Sue, he's not bad. 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.800 I mean they got good. Don't get me wrong. They 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.320 got a ton of talent. And that's one of the 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.560 reasons why I've been so shocked by some of the 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.920 games they have, particularly that game they played against Kansas City. 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.400 I thought there would be more defense because I'm looking 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.960 at that team and I'm saying they got a ton 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.600 of good defensive players at the Rams. But they it 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.159 hasn't translated to Sam. They haven't played like they have 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.520 a bunch of good players. I mean, don't get me wrong, 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:39.560 the best player in the league. It is very clear 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.600 who the best defensive player in the league is, right, 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.160 But beyond that, they just haven't played as a unit. 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.159 They haven't played like that. Keep in mind, though, and 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.399 this is where we fall into traps, and it's not 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.520 our fault. Like our job is to cover the Cowboys. 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.320 We know this team better than damn near anybody. I 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.919 don't know what's going on intimately with the Rams, but 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.320 you look around keep to lead back that that type 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.159 of stuff mat Although he's not playing back to his 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.040 full form yet, but he'll have a few weeks to 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.640 get back. He's played two games since missing. Yeah, So 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.840 point being, you know we're talking about this isn't the 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.440 same team that the Cowboys had in October. The Rams 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.600 won't be the same team. And if if he's back 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.280 playing like he's been playing, you've got two You know 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.800 you can't pick him though, but again he's not playing 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.840 well because they can pick on him. Now you bring 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.359 that cornerback back, Like I'm just you know, your personnel changes, 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:30.760 your team changes. The Seahawks can say the same thing, 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.199 um and just with the talent and the offense that 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.600 they have and having the best pass rusher in the NFL. Like, yes, 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.639 I think the Rams are better and more balanced than 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.080 the Cowboys. Okay, you think the Saints too, yes, yeah, 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.240 which does not get does not mean the Cowboys can't 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.560 beat them, That doesn't I mean the Saint The Cowboys 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.280 already beat the Saints. But you just look at it 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.160 on paper, You look at what they do well. Yeah, 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.320 I mean that they're number one and two in the 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.080 conference by a pretty wide margin. Yeah. Uncomfortable, And I 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.040 don't really care because this is what we do. But 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.840 how uncomfortable would Jason Garrett be just sitting here? Let's 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.960 talking about but he's got a job to do and 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.600 he's trying to win against it. That's fine. Yeah, he's 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.440 having it. He's trying to have a good Tuesday, that's all. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.680 You don't even know if playing the Colts. But he 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.320 would also say, do your job, and his job is 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.199 to focus on the Colts, and our job is to 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.040 do that. That's what the fans are talking about. They're 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.800 not talking necessarily about the Colts right now. But let 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.760 me ask you this about the Let's go back to that. 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:31.240 Maybe the first game, assuming you know, whoever gets into 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.240 as the sixth seed is gonna kind of pick it 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.359 up and win a few games here. So whoever you're facing, 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.600 you're facing a team that's relatively hot. I would think, um, 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:47.640 who would you rather face Seattle or Carolina? Because it's 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.840 really easy to just say Carolina. But when I think 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:56.679 about what this team does, um, McCaffrey and and Cam Newton, 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.080 they they worry me a little bit more than that. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.640 Then Seattle's off and I know Russell Wilson, he's tough 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.560 to bring down on it. But from we've seen Carson, 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.520 he ran well on him. I would just say to 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.720 that game, let's do it again, Let's do it again 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.480 in your best players. The same way about Carolina. I honestly, 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.000 if you look the early part of that game, they 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.240 let Cam do some things that by the second half 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.879 he wasn't afore and I think if you gave him 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.200 another crack at that one, I actually think they would 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.800 blow him out. I really do, because I think that 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.720 the more of the season is on worn on with Carolina. Yeah, 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.160 I just don't think they have They don't have the weapons. 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.320 It's really those two guys. It's Cam and McCaffrey, and 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.400 they don't have much of a passing game. Funches isn't 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.359 gonna do much. He has an all season, So I 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.760 think that and their defense, in my opinion, isn't as 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.560 good as Seattle's defense. So I still think Carolina is 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.720 a team that you would prefer to play. I'm gonna 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.160 instance things aren't working. I'm gonna nitpick with you too, 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.040 because that it bothered me because, like people gave the 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.560 Seahawks so much credit, Chris Carson had one hundred yards 0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.680 in that game. He needed thirty two players to carry 0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.760 first three point two yards per carry. That's and you know, obviously, 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.800 and I can hear fans saying this too. Like in 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.800 the playoffs, the Cowboys probably don't deserve the benefit of 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:13.280 the doubt just given their recent history. But I don't 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.240 think that any Cowboys fans should be afraid of any 0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.320 of their first round match. And I go back Russell. Sorry, 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.120 I'm sorry, Nick Russell. Wilson's a great player. I think 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.840 the world of him. I would have voted for him 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.480 for MVP last year. He threw for seventy two yards 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.600 in that game. And Doug Baldwin's hurt. That's another point. 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.879 Won't be the same team in three weeks when the 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.840 playoffs come. But there's nobody in that pool of wildcard 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.240 teams that that. I don't think the Cowboys can beat 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.120 well at home. Another point of that, I mean, okay, 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.720 they bring Doug Baldwin, that doesn't scare anybody, but um, 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:48.080 I mean he's solid. Baldwin's solid. He has underrated, but 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.920 they faced better receivers than him this Church job against. 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.240 But the big difference is there when you think about 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.120 that game, the guy on the other side of the 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.000 ball that was just balling out for Seattle obviously not there. 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:04.800 Earl Thomas Thomas, I'm sorry right now, but Earl Thomas, 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.800 with those two interceptions, I mean, how different is the 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.000 game there? Bobby Wagner's a beast too, should be. That's 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.959 what I'm saying. That defense is back to playing rod football. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.400 What was a big play on the other side of 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.880 the ball that. I don't think Tyler Lockett's going for 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.200 fifty five on Davier Woods right now. I mean he 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.960 went on cavon Fraser and Xavier Woods is you know, 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.880 I've been the Earl Thomas cheerleader and all that, and 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.000 I might be in the offseason as well. But but Earl, 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.320 I mean, but Xavier Woods has played well. You gotta 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.240 give them credit. And I just think that's a position 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.560 where you could put three good guys back there. I'd 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.760 be okay with three safeties ut are decent. But the 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.480 thing about Seattle, the way Seattle worries you is exactly 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.200 what they did last night. They're not gonna overwhelm you 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.320 with offense, They're just gonna kind of stick around, stick around, 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.600 stick around. Their defense is gonna keep making plays, making plays, 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.040 making plays, and then an opportunity is gonna hit where 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.800 Russell William Wilson breaks a forty yard run and now 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.200 you're in a situation where they get some points. Then 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.160 their defense takes an opportune takes an opportune moment and 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.920 they get a turnover and the points. Right, that's where 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.000 a team like Seattle can beat you. And that's where 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.520 Seattle scares you. If their formulas very they're not a 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.840 team that's an offensive team. They are back to being 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.720 a soundly a defensive team that is opportunistic offensively. And 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.040 you sort of just describe the Cowboys too. Although the 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.040 Cowboys are better offensively, I think that Seattle, Yeah, they 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.480 have because they have a better running game, they have 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.440 more ways to beat you. Right, If Dak Prescott, I'm 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.520 watching another highlight of sorry of the game mystery. I 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.120 never saw this highlight yet. If Dak Prescott would ever 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.040 made an interception what Russell Wilson did in the red zone, 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.440 I mean the internet would burn. Yeah, you know it's 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.480 funny though, and a fan pointed this out to me 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.680 on Twitter, and I had actually gone and watched a 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.920 couple of programs in the Philly area listen to a 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.880 couple of podcasts. It's amazing number of times I heard 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.760 people in Philadelphia for comparing their quarterback to Dak and 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.800 saying he's just not playing as well as like say 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.600 a Dak Prescott He's not doing and so it kind 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.120 of just it made me chuckle. But it's all about perspective, right. 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.000 You look at your guy and you're like, you see 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.240 all of his deficiencies, you see all of his flaws 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.480 because you've been watching him for a whole season, and 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.000 you're afraid about the things he's done poorly that he's 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.640 gonna creep back up, right. But in other cities they're 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.480 looking at that, and the people in Philly are like, hey, 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.240 whatever his flaws are, all I know is in fourth 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:25.000 quarter and over time, he killed us. And that's what 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.040 they care about. That's what they look at. That's what 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.840 they're hoping they can get from their quarterback. And and 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.360 so I think sometimes it forces you to kind of 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.920 reevaluate what you're thinking of your own guy. Say, maybe 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.840 he's a little better than I what I'm giving him 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.520 credit for. The biggest football fan in the world does 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.760 not have time to watch every snap for every team, 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.880 So you get all ten thousand of your team snaps 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.680 and you have an insanely good idea of that, and 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.800 then you're just kind of cherry picking what you see 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.520 from everybody else. So you're if you're a Philly fan, 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.600 you're like, when this is so hesitant with the ball. 0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.160 I heard that a lot, and he did. He did 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.040 look hesitant with ball. And then you know, you see 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.200 Dak DA's what he's like thirteen to nine and the 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.280 fourth quarter drives and he was amazing in the clutch 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.880 the other day, and you look at that. Cowboys fans 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.680 are like, oh, dak handled onto the ball. 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Looking at some of the numbers, 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.959 he's been outstanding in these six games. Here's my question 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.080 for you guys, based upon what he's provided for this 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.600 offense and now forcing defenses. It's been pretty well documented 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.279 that now when the Cowboys are in eleven personnel, which 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.120 is one running back, one tight end, three wide receivers, before, 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.840 defenses would still put eight men in the box against 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.680 the Cowboys. Now, by and large, I want to say 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.600 it's under two percent of the time do defense is 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.239 actually keep an eighth man in the box when the 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.239 Cowboys present eleven personnel, Now they're keeping the safety back 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.719 because of Amari Cooper. That being said, how much does 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.919 a guy like Tavon Austin help you at this point 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.319 when he returns, presumably maybe this week, maybe next week, 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.200 but certainly by the playoffs you would expect him to 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.000 be back. How much does a guy like him that 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.360 has that kind of lateral speed help you when safeties 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.360 are having to stay back. I think he could be 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.200 absolutely huge, and I thought he could have been an 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.880 even bigger part of what they were doing when they 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.040 didn't have Amari Cooper. But I cannot, I cannot get 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.200 out of my head. It was gimmicky. It was kind 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.279 of cheesy almost, but like it worked what they did 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.440 with Lucky Whitehead, it worked every time, and honest, it 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.399 was working with Tavon before he got hurt. I want 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.520 to say he had nine carries for fifty five yards 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.560 when he got hurt, which is a pretty nice average. 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.160 And I think the only reason they didn't do it 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.400 more is because they didn't have a proven receiver like 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.279 I they they were trying to use him way too 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.960 much as a traditional receiver in my opinion, So I 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.400 think it could be huge. The only thing I just 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:29.840 I don't trust it, and so I don't want to 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.480 sit here banging a table like it's going to be 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.319 this crazy thing, only for him to not make an 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.719 impact when he comes back because I don't trust them 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.239 to give him is the right way. The guy that 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.239 I think is having the biggest impact is Gallup, and 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.759 I know that that Dak and Gallup have not been 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.320 on the same page yet, but I'll take my chances 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.279 on that because it's not They're not far off and 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.239 we're talking about a really big play. It's there just 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:58.680 about every game, sometimes twice a game. I do Dave 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.560 might disagree with you. We talked to a little bit, 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:04.279 but I Dak has overthrown him a couple of times 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.120 and missed a couple of times. I think Gallop needs 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:08.719 to work on it as well. I think there was 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.440 a play where Gallop stopped running Um. So they just 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.200 got to get on the same page. They will, and 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.160 I think that's a product what you're saying about that 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.200 safety with Cooper, it's just leaving one on one. Gallop 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.759 is got got that deep speed, so I think I 0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.080 think that's working. If Cooper can I mean not Cooper Um. 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.960 If Tavon could get in there, moon walk around a 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.680 little bit and make some plays, that'd be great. It's 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.160 the same thing that we've you know, been saying since May. 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.920 And he's got some moves, but dancer, he doesn't need 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.880 a tiny dance. He doesn't need to touch that. He 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:43.400 didn't need to touch the ball more than three or 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.320 four times a game. But he can make a difference. 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.440 Well that's and that's changed a little bit of three 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.440 or four times a game. And because before Cooper we 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.000 were like seven, eight nine, Well, I just people were 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.600 making fun of the front office for saying that he 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.600 could get a dozen or more touches a game. And 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.439 you know, just if you five punt returns a game, 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.680 three or four handoffs, maybe a catch or two, like, 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.800 you can get there. But with the addition of Cooper, 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.279 and I agree with you, it's gonna come from Michael 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.200 Gallup and I wouldn't want to go away from him. 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.719 So you've got those options. You've got Zeke. You don't 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.160 need to be forced feeding this guy at the ball 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.879 just because you've got so many other weapons. But three 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.879 to six touches a game I think could be great. 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.120 I mean yeah, I think what he did last year 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.960 with the Rams was to me the upside of what 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.080 the Cowboys could get out of him, which was he 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.480 was our gadget player. He was a guy that could 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.640 just create different looks. They already had a great running 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.080 games with Gurley, they already had a good passing game. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.399 They needed him to be a guy that could give 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.200 defenses something else to worry about and do it in 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.320 unconventional ways. Now that you have a guy like Amari 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.760 Cooper on the outside, you're starting to get something from Gallop. 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.759 And I'm of the opinion keep throwing that that's gonna 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.879 connect at some point and you're gonna get that going. 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.640 But you look at those two things. You still got Beasily, 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.319 who was a guy now can play the role which 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:55.920 he's supposed to be, which he is a guy that 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.080 can in a crucial moment because defenses have to worry 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.400 about everything else got to worry about, and a crucial 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.359 third down he can catch it and move the change 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.640 for you. And in the last few games you've noticed 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.319 he's at two or three good catches at opportune times 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.640 for the Cowboys. Right. So, I think this is all 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.360 kind of starting to fit together, and I think Tavan 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.600 can really be a gadget guy. Before he was your 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.640 best wide receiving threat before Mark Cooper got here. Those 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.799 are the guys. They were good, but I don't even 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.520 want to say they were good. It was just a 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.040 mashing of a bunch of wide receivers that none of 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.560 them's really stepping forward and being none of them was 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.560 going to be the man. Tavon was the one that 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.320 had the most skill and talent, so you kind of 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.520 wanted him to be. Now he could just be your 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.800 gadget guy, and I think as the gadget guy, he 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.520 can really bring something new to this offense that makes 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.239 defenses respect something different than what you and especially in 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:46.600 the red zone, that's where I think you can get 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.840 the best use out of him. And that's you know, 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.080 it'll be interesting because you know, we made that mistake. 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.560 You make the mistake of assuming that it's it's static 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.040 and it's not gonna change like it is going to 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.800 change over these next three games and then into the playoffs, 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.840 and if they're gonna win multip if they're gonna win 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.239 a playoff game, let alone multiple, it's gonna need to 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.720 be better. And so the content that's hopefully Tavon Austin 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.680 can play an indie and sort of get his feet 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.200 wet and get some momentum going toward being a viable 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.239 part of this thing by the time the playoffs roll around. 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.160 All right, guys, we appreciate you, Guys, Jonas, We'll be 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.239 back to mart our normal time eleven thirty am, so 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.600 I'm sorry, eleven forty five am Central till then for 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.640 Nick Eatn, Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eatleton. This has 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:28.760 been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.759 This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.