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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, December eleventh, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: episode number ninety four. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys football today. We're telling to take a big
Speaker 1: picture look today, look around the NFL, as we do
Speaker 1: on every Tuesday. It's looking up for the Cowboys more
Speaker 1: and more. It's it's looking like the Cowboys are going
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs. I think it's like a
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent chance at this point they'll be in
Speaker 1: the playoffs barring just some unforeseen just complete dismantling of
Speaker 1: this team. They should be in the playoffs. But there's
Speaker 1: still a lot that has to happen below them with
Speaker 1: regards to the playoff team that maybe not the playoff
Speaker 1: team that they will face, but that final sixth seed
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. How's everybody doing this morning. I'm good,
Speaker 1: Derek Good, I'm good, good good. I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit today about a couple of different topics. First,
Speaker 1: looking at the NFC, and we we were talking about
Speaker 1: this before we went on the air. Dave made mention
Speaker 1: of it yesterday. Really it's not so much about, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of whether you're you're the third or the fourth seed.
Speaker 1: It's much more about who's the fifth and the sixth seed.
Speaker 1: And last night, as you watched that game with the
Speaker 1: two teams that right now are the fifth and six seeds,
Speaker 1: Seattle being the fifth seed and Minnesota being the sixth seed,
Speaker 1: it looks like there is an appreciable difference between the
Speaker 1: quality of football being played by the Seattle Seahawks and
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody else that's battling for that sixth spot.
Speaker 1: What's your assessment of the teams that are left. Of
Speaker 1: all those teams that are left kind of battling for
Speaker 1: that sixth spot, which of those teams do you think
Speaker 1: is the scariest or the one that could pose the
Speaker 1: most problems if the Cowboys did have to face them
Speaker 1: instead of Seattle. Oh? Um, Eagles. But it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: then though, right, I mean, I would be. The likelihood
Speaker 1: of the Eagles right now is pretty small. And Dave,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that NFL that NFL playoff predictor. I played
Speaker 1: around with that a little bit this morning. As far
Speaker 1: as the way I was looking at it, the Eagles
Speaker 1: basically have to win out and get help for them
Speaker 1: to be able to get in on that sixth seed.
Speaker 1: And you look at that and it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: they got Houston, they got the Rams, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough for them to get one win went out. The
Speaker 1: Vikings are now six six one seven I think there's
Speaker 1: six six and one, you're right, yeah, So why do
Speaker 1: they have to win out like the Eagles are just
Speaker 1: six and seven? Well, the the at least the I think.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is Miami would have to not
Speaker 1: not Miami, I'm sorry, um, the Panther. No, No, it
Speaker 1: would be the who was I talking about? Minnesota? Minnesota
Speaker 1: would have to lose two of their final three. Philly
Speaker 1: went out. But then there are other teams that are
Speaker 1: in the mix. There two that could affect that, right,
Speaker 1: because you've got you've got Caroline, who's at six and seven.
Speaker 1: And when you start thinking about the schedule two, First
Speaker 1: of all, Minnesota they don't have that tough of a schedule.
Speaker 1: Their final game is against Chicago, who may or may
Speaker 1: not have something to play for at that point. But
Speaker 1: before that, before those two, they have Miami at home
Speaker 1: and then they play at Detroit. So the likelihood that
Speaker 1: they lose both of those is probably not very likely.
Speaker 1: Probably a good chance that they win both of them,
Speaker 1: in which case, again it's going to be very difficult
Speaker 1: for Philly unless they win out to be able to
Speaker 1: catch them and jump over them because of that tie,
Speaker 1: Because the tie creates a whole different thing, because now
Speaker 1: you're talking about half a game, half a win, or
Speaker 1: half a loss. I hate it so much, And there's
Speaker 1: only sixteen of these and they're all so important and
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be ties. But the NFL cares more about
Speaker 1: pleasing sponsors and getting games over with in a timely
Speaker 1: manner than you know, the integrity of the competition. I
Speaker 1: think that is just purely my opinion. I think it's stupid.
Speaker 1: I hate ties, and I hate that I have to
Speaker 1: sit here and do calculations every time I look at
Speaker 1: the standings because of it. Do you hate ties in
Speaker 1: all sports? That doesn't seem like you get upset about
Speaker 1: soccer ties. Soccer is completely different because you play forty
Speaker 1: games and it's a point system instead of standings. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you got if you got a point for a
Speaker 1: tie and win and three for a win like you
Speaker 1: do in soccer, it's fine. And also it's still like
Speaker 1: that either that's too hard to keep up. It's give
Speaker 1: me a win loss it's not though, like in soccer.
Speaker 1: In soccer you don't even look at the wins and losses.
Speaker 1: You say points they have, but thirty points out of
Speaker 1: how many games? And that's my that's my point. That's
Speaker 1: to me, that's a problem. Like I want sports to
Speaker 1: be about winning and losing, so wins and losses, it's
Speaker 1: just wins and losses. Give me a win loss record
Speaker 1: and I'll know how good you are. This is a
Speaker 1: separate conversation, but there is no competition on planet Earth
Speaker 1: that does a better job of deciding who is the
Speaker 1: best team than soccer. Really, I don't know enough about
Speaker 1: it to really argue that. I mean, forty forty games,
Speaker 1: there's no playoff. Whoever does the best of its thirty
Speaker 1: eight games. But whoever does the best out of thirty
Speaker 1: eight games, you have the highest point total. That's not fun.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not it's not fun at all. And
Speaker 1: that's why the ratings aren't. It's high, especially here here here,
Speaker 1: they're they're high in the world. It's not fun at all,
Speaker 1: but it rewards the team that is the best from
Speaker 1: the beginning of the seasons at the end. Yeah, purely
Speaker 1: I get that. I just I sports is supposed to
Speaker 1: be fun. I'd rather take the fun, So playoffs to me,
Speaker 1: I don't like sports without playoffs. I think college football
Speaker 1: before playoff to where it is now with a playoff
Speaker 1: infinitely better with a playoff than without im I'll contradict
Speaker 1: myself all day. Playoffs are so much fun and they're
Speaker 1: ingrained in me as an American, and I love them.
Speaker 1: I hate, hate, hate when mediocre, crap teams win the championship.
Speaker 1: I hate to this day, and I don't like the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. I hate to this day that a
Speaker 1: nine and seven Giants team won that Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: crap that could hate the Giants. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't give a crap about the Giants. Either I grew
Speaker 1: up a Saints, but let's just don't care about anybody
Speaker 1: I talk about. When that happens, They're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: got hot bull crap. Patriots were historically good. Let's bring
Speaker 1: it back to the Cowboys because we can do that
Speaker 1: right there. The nine and seven Giants team wasn't mediocre
Speaker 1: at when they were playing. And that's that's what's the
Speaker 1: beauty of what the playoff system gives you. It gives
Speaker 1: you some room for eric, gives you a chance to
Speaker 1: like figure some things out, gives you a chance to
Speaker 1: maybe make a trade for a wide receiver in Oakland
Speaker 1: and bring them to your team. So now at eight
Speaker 1: and five, I don't think the Cowboys are a mediocre
Speaker 1: team at eight and five right now. I know the
Speaker 1: Saints wouldn't wouldn't think that way, And so I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I think it gives you an opportunity. That's one
Speaker 1: thing I hated about old college football. You know, you
Speaker 1: lose early. Oh U Texas played early. The loser had
Speaker 1: no shot. Now you have a chance to kind of
Speaker 1: rally back in as Oklahoma. Okay, so that you brought
Speaker 1: me to this and actually I was gonna say this
Speaker 1: this was gonna be I had a whole list of questions.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the final question. The coude gras
Speaker 1: you always but you bring us a list of questions
Speaker 1: and we ruin it. No, No, but that's okay. That's
Speaker 1: okay because I like the way this is going. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump this question. I'm gonna just gonna jump on
Speaker 1: this to the front. When you look at this team now,
Speaker 1: you have an elite running back, you have an elite
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you have an elite pass rusher. You have
Speaker 1: really good linebackers, really good secondary, pretty good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Is the quarterback good enough to take this team all
Speaker 1: the way to the Super Bowl? Because a lot of
Speaker 1: pieces are in place. If you look at super Bowl
Speaker 1: champions over the last fifteen years, the Cowboys have more
Speaker 1: pieces than many of those teams did. Is there anything
Speaker 1: that could stop this team right now from possibly getting
Speaker 1: all the way? Like, are they in the conversation now
Speaker 1: of a team that can go all the way? I
Speaker 1: know that silly, it's not starting. No, No, I'm saying silly.
Speaker 1: When you look at it from the reference of this
Speaker 1: was a three and five team at one point in
Speaker 1: a season, to where they are now. I know that's
Speaker 1: ludicrous to even think that happens, But at this point
Speaker 1: where you are right now, with the players that you have,
Speaker 1: is this seem good enough to go all the way
Speaker 1: for the third time? I'll contradict myself and Nick's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: This isn't that team. Like you can watch any of
Speaker 1: the games that they've won since the Tennessee game, and
Speaker 1: week by week they have been so much better and different.
Speaker 1: I mean, they lead the league in third down percentage.
Speaker 1: Do you remember watching the team try to convert third
Speaker 1: downs in the first month of the season. It was laughable.
Speaker 1: And that's just one example, Like they are not the
Speaker 1: same team. NFL seasons are ever evolving and changing things,
Speaker 1: so it's a it's fun to talk about, like, well,
Speaker 1: look at this transformation. But to say that this team
Speaker 1: can't win playoff games because they struggled against the Seahawks
Speaker 1: two months ago, like that doesn't matter. And when they
Speaker 1: beat the Saints, that said to me that they can
Speaker 1: beat anybody. I mean, they have the defense that can
Speaker 1: stop an offense like that, and they their offense is
Speaker 1: not special by any stretch of the imagination, but we've
Speaker 1: seen it do enough to win five games in a row,
Speaker 1: stringing that together. They're gonna I mean, unless something miraculous happens,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win four games in a row
Speaker 1: to win a championship. That that's a tall order for anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, the Patriots and the Saints maybe, like
Speaker 1: there's probably two teams out of twelve that are gonna
Speaker 1: make the playoffs that really feel like they can do that,
Speaker 1: And that's the big question. But they can. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's even silly with what we've seen in the
Speaker 1: last month. The two areas I think that worry fans
Speaker 1: the most, or maybe worry the Cowboys the most, is
Speaker 1: just consistent scoring. And that comes to the with the
Speaker 1: quarterback and down in the red zone and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna make enough plays? And the kicker, you know,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get to this part of the point
Speaker 1: of the season where you know your kicker is gonna
Speaker 1: have to be consistent, and I think he's he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He is pretty good. I mean, when you look around
Speaker 1: the league, guys miss guys missed extra points. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Tucker missed an extra point, didn't he um?
Speaker 1: It happened often but missed an extra point that costs
Speaker 1: them a game. Yeah. So I mean he's the best
Speaker 1: in the league, and so it, uh, it happens. And
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of those just hold your
Speaker 1: breath type situations. I think this team is built for
Speaker 1: a cold weather game because of the way they run,
Speaker 1: the way they pass. That's probably not gonna happen, though,
Speaker 1: because you know, if you you're gonna win, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans or LA. So talk about control
Speaker 1: climate either way, right, so you know end up in
Speaker 1: a uh, don't do it? Three number three seed Bears
Speaker 1: against the number four seed Cowboys and Soldier Field. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. No, No, I wasn't saying it can't happen.
Speaker 1: I don't do it because I did not want to
Speaker 1: go to ship. I would go in. You would love that,
Speaker 1: I would. Now, what if it was the NFC championship
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans Cowboys Saints in the championship game?
Speaker 1: Would that would that be fun for you? No, I
Speaker 1: would be a nightmare. That would be so much fun.
Speaker 1: I would hate it. As you know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the Sunday late game, which means on Bourbon Saturday night.
Speaker 1: That yeah, maybe right. I think anybody you think our
Speaker 1: um sponsorship and team would would want to hit that trip.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming we're taking three planes. If that half somebody
Speaker 1: I've never met would be on my in my seat
Speaker 1: or next to me on the plane, for sure, I
Speaker 1: would despise that. I hope it doesn't be like just
Speaker 1: because you don't want to? Why because you just don't
Speaker 1: want to? I don't get I do, like I when
Speaker 1: the Saints play the Cowboys, it is a nightmare from yeah,
Speaker 1: he hate because and but I don't, honest, I don't
Speaker 1: even care about that, Like I'm so far removed from
Speaker 1: the fan aspect of it, Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about the New Orleans Saints other than when
Speaker 1: it's like time to you know, study them, and like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill touches the ball five times a game. But
Speaker 1: when the Saints play the Cowboys, everybody here thinks I'm
Speaker 1: a trader jerk because I'm from New Orleans, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're probably rooting for the Saints, and everybody I know
Speaker 1: from back home is like your dirty cowboy, gross, you're
Speaker 1: a trade Like I am the bad guy on both
Speaker 1: sides all week long, I don't get to win. I
Speaker 1: don't get to feel good no matter what happens, and
Speaker 1: if it happens in the playoffs, even worse. So just
Speaker 1: keep that far away from me. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: same way I feel about Houston from the standpoint that
Speaker 1: I just I get a lot. I have to listen
Speaker 1: to a lot from like old classmates from Houston who
Speaker 1: are big Texans fans at this point, and it's just
Speaker 1: like I don't even want to hear it. Like it's
Speaker 1: just like they feel like I have to be the
Speaker 1: target of all of their their whatever, like oh, it's
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Texans, and I'm like, I don't really care
Speaker 1: about the Texas. Doesn't matter me one way or the other,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to This happened to me last night. I
Speaker 1: was a Jersey Mike's getting dinner and got a guy
Speaker 1: that worked there walked out of the back. I guess
Speaker 1: his shift was over and he so he had on
Speaker 1: his normal clothes and he had on a Saints hoodie
Speaker 1: and a Saints beanie, and I mean it caught my eye,
Speaker 1: like you know, and I was just kind of looking
Speaker 1: at the hoodie and he saw me, and he saw
Speaker 1: me looking at him, and I'm wearing a big obnoxious
Speaker 1: Cowboys beanie and like pumping his chest like yeah who that,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter that y'all want whatever, And like
Speaker 1: I froze out. I was like, wait, I'm from New Orleans,
Speaker 1: like I just I thought, and literally he just he
Speaker 1: didn't want to have anything to do with it. And
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to say? Like I've got a
Speaker 1: Cowboys badge and a Cowboys beanie. Like I just hung
Speaker 1: my head. I was like that I can't get out
Speaker 1: of this situation. You just walk away at that point, Um,
Speaker 1: I never had that experience, probably talk about football. At
Speaker 1: some point I had something I wanted to say, Oh,
Speaker 1: do you need to go to a break? Because this
Speaker 1: was go ahead? Just is it long? Sort of all?
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you what. Let's take a break, come
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Speaker 1: back into the second segment of the Break. Life from
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, talking big picture
Speaker 1: Cowboys rolling through the season at eight and five heading
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, We think I think pretty sure they're
Speaker 1: heading to the playoffs. If they aren't, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: a meltdown of atastrophic purport. Just to be clear, for
Speaker 1: them not to win the division at this point, they
Speaker 1: have to lose out and Washington or Philly has to
Speaker 1: win out. Yes, um, that would be the only scenario
Speaker 1: under which the Cowboys don't win. So as of this weekend,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys beat the Indianapolis Colts, they will get
Speaker 1: their hats and they'll be riding back on the plane
Speaker 1: with the NFC champs hats on and celebrating another division
Speaker 1: time scenario that I don't like what's going in New York.
Speaker 1: And it's not locked down because I hate I hate
Speaker 1: that one too. Absolutely, it's not. It's the noon gamet Indy,
Speaker 1: tough game, tough loss, flying back, Redskins just suck, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose to the Jaguars and then wear me
Speaker 1: on the plane in Philadelphia in LA while we're on that.
Speaker 1: That's the night game. It's for the night game. The
Speaker 1: night game. Okay, so you won't we'll be back before
Speaker 1: the night games over all, right. I was thinking that
Speaker 1: was an afternoon You thought maybe we land and well
Speaker 1: we're the champs, guys. As a coach, Gert congratula. That's
Speaker 1: not how That's not Garrett's style. I don't think he
Speaker 1: would do that. I don't either. If they won the
Speaker 1: NFC East, when we're on the plane, what would happen?
Speaker 1: I don't think you. First of all, you know, who's
Speaker 1: gonna tell us they lost? Robert Black? Yeah, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: somebody that's got the game on is gonna come. He's
Speaker 1: been with the Cowboys of thirties, eight thirty nine years,
Speaker 1: never missed the game, neverous the practice. He's the director
Speaker 1: of videos. Video like though that you could go that
Speaker 1: long and not miss game unbelievable. Um, but he always
Speaker 1: plugged in. He's always got somebody up in the cockpit
Speaker 1: that's got something the game on. I'm sure that's against regulations,
Speaker 1: but um sure that's not something breaking the law here, Tammy,
Speaker 1: I've never breaked the laws. Assumed he had a really
Speaker 1: good internet commit sue. I thought he just had connectivity anyways.
Speaker 1: But they could lose the game to the Colts and
Speaker 1: still clinch, and I mean that's very possible. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's that's the night game, that's the night game. We
Speaker 1: don't want to be sitting around at eleven o'clock at
Speaker 1: night trying to write a story that they clinched. I mean,
Speaker 1: you might have to write it on the plane and
Speaker 1: just if you eat it, you have it ready. That's
Speaker 1: one to get ahead and right that they will lose
Speaker 1: to the Rams. You can go ahead and write something
Speaker 1: today about and just fill in the blank on the
Speaker 1: details Sunday. I've already got Rob on a story right
Speaker 1: right after the game. I turned around. It was like, Rob,
Speaker 1: can you go ahead and write Amari Cooper NFC Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Week and just uh, it's coming. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody Thursday. They announced that Thursday, Wednesday, tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: You know, I just thought about it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what his numbers, so I didn't look at this, and
Speaker 1: I looked at his numbers that he's gotten sit to
Speaker 1: me on the Cowboys. I didn't see his numbers back
Speaker 1: earlier in the season with the Raiders twenty for two something.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a chance touchdowns. Is he got to
Speaker 1: get Pro Bowl just based off these six seven, eight games? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Its because numbers aren't aren't horrible now, No, it's great numbers, actually,
Speaker 1: his numbers right now, he's at forty catches for six
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two yards and six touchdowns through six games.
Speaker 1: That's averaging six catches, one hundred and seven yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown every game, actually averaging seven catches because it's
Speaker 1: like six point eight. So yeah, you round that one,
Speaker 1: round it up. Yeah, sure, I don't like rounding it
Speaker 1: up for that kind of stuff, but go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: free I do. But but the point is he's having
Speaker 1: a phenomenal what six game stretch with the Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny if the fans voted right now, if it
Speaker 1: just was a fans vote totally, Zeke would not be
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Really rerunning backs highly, there's not
Speaker 1: that many spots. Kamara, Yeah, actually he would be fifth
Speaker 1: because Kamara, Gurley, Barkley, and McCaffrey all have more votes.
Speaker 1: Barkley has more votes. Yeah, yeah, Barkley's yeah, but his
Speaker 1: numbers aren't Zeke's. Zeke's what first or second in rushing
Speaker 1: right now? Votes? I know, I get that. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that's surprising to me. He's the new hotness and
Speaker 1: he's on pace to have a thousand of each, which
Speaker 1: that's crazy impressive. A thousand receiving last time, last time,
Speaker 1: I love he was like more like about seven eight hundred.
Speaker 1: He might have trailed off, but he was at one
Speaker 1: point during the season he was on pace to have
Speaker 1: a thousands of each. Cleveland take the running back whatever,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I gotta deal with him for ten years, Nah,
Speaker 1: maybe not five or six. Well, he didn't kill the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: did he? See what happens in the last game. But
Speaker 1: you know how division is, you know how division is.
Speaker 1: It's it's that's the Those are the games where great
Speaker 1: players tend to not be as great a lot of
Speaker 1: times because they play them so often, they just kind
Speaker 1: of know how to deal with them. We even got
Speaker 1: to the point you were, oh, yeah, no question, it's
Speaker 1: not a big it's just, you know, going back to
Speaker 1: what Derek opened the show with, just you know, can
Speaker 1: this team win it all? Jerry did his Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: did his morning calling with the one oh five three
Speaker 1: radio station here, And I guess it's something Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: was arguing about on NFL Network over the weekend. Is
Speaker 1: you know the cliche is defense wins championships. Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: is you know, no points win championships. You got to
Speaker 1: score more points than the other guy to win the games.
Speaker 1: And Jerry was kind of right in the fence between
Speaker 1: those who thought processes. So I was thinking about it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I absolutely believe defense wins championships,
Speaker 1: just in the sense of to win in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you got to either win three or four games in
Speaker 1: a row, and your defense has to be good enough
Speaker 1: to keep you in those games. I mean absolutely, I
Speaker 1: don't think you win a Super Bowl with a terrible defense.
Speaker 1: You doesn't have to be amazing, but it can't be
Speaker 1: terrible to be opportunistic. The thing is, I kind of
Speaker 1: see what Michael Irvin is saying, though, is you don't
Speaker 1: have to have an amazing offense, but your offense has
Speaker 1: to be consistent enough to show up three or four
Speaker 1: times in a row and show up I mean a minute,
Speaker 1: probably not even seventeen, like twenty to twenty seven points
Speaker 1: in the playoffs playing those types of teams. You don't
Speaker 1: see teams win playoff games of seventeen points very often,
Speaker 1: And that is what concerns me for this team, is like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm very confident this defense can hold whoever
Speaker 1: to twenty points or less. I'm not confident that this
Speaker 1: offense can score twenty seven multiple times, even with what
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's added for them, because it seems like since
Speaker 1: he's got it, they're often the offense is scoring. It's
Speaker 1: not easy scoring, but it seems like they're scoring more.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's okay, twenty nine, six of which came
Speaker 1: in an overtime period U thirteen not I mean, amazing win,
Speaker 1: but not good enough. Twenty two against the Falcons, um
Speaker 1: twenty seven against Philly, which whom I'm oh, third thirty one,
Speaker 1: So they can do it? Can they do it? And then,
Speaker 1: like I said, they're probably not getting a buy. So
Speaker 1: you're talking beating four good teams in a row. Can
Speaker 1: they stack for good performances in a row? This instance,
Speaker 1: they they've had four out of five, but they've scored
Speaker 1: above what twenty seven. One of those teams has a
Speaker 1: winning record. And I'd only bring this up because now
Speaker 1: we're comparing that to what you're comparing it to and
Speaker 1: having to go and beat the Saints, beat the Rams
Speaker 1: or Bears or whoever. Um. I just I just feel
Speaker 1: like if you have to go to the Superdome. That
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I don't I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. And it's not just about the Superdome.
Speaker 1: I get it, the Cowboys have won there before and
Speaker 1: all that. It's about this year's team already beating them barely.
Speaker 1: I just think that's not what's gonna happen again with
Speaker 1: breezing them and they're gonna have to it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a different type of game. I don't like that. I
Speaker 1: like going up to LA if you have to do that,
Speaker 1: I like, And I don't mind the Bears. Okay, So
Speaker 1: so here's the question, going back to what Dave was saying,
Speaker 1: name teams for me that are more well balanced than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when you're talking about offense and defense. Obviously
Speaker 1: the offense in this instance is not as good as
Speaker 1: the defense. But when you look at every team, there's
Speaker 1: probably that type of one's better than the other. Are
Speaker 1: there teams out there that you think are more balanced
Speaker 1: as far as when you try to factor the offense
Speaker 1: in their defense, and then says in the Rams, I
Speaker 1: think they're more balanced. Yes, if you think the Rams defense, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Rams defense up to whatno, were
Speaker 1: they weren't supposed to be well because all the number
Speaker 1: one picks and all those But I think that they're
Speaker 1: they're really good. They're also they got the best player
Speaker 1: in I mean, they got the best player in football,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So when you have the best
Speaker 1: player in football and didn't you know, Sue, he's not bad.
Speaker 1: I mean they got good. Don't get me wrong. They
Speaker 1: got a ton of talent. And that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I've been so shocked by some of the
Speaker 1: games they have, particularly that game they played against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I thought there would be more defense because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that team and I'm saying they got a ton
Speaker 1: of good defensive players at the Rams. But they it
Speaker 1: hasn't translated to Sam. They haven't played like they have
Speaker 1: a bunch of good players. I mean, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: the best player in the league. It is very clear
Speaker 1: who the best defensive player in the league is, right,
Speaker 1: But beyond that, they just haven't played as a unit.
Speaker 1: They haven't played like that. Keep in mind, though, and
Speaker 1: this is where we fall into traps, and it's not
Speaker 1: our fault. Like our job is to cover the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We know this team better than damn near anybody. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on intimately with the Rams, but
Speaker 1: you look around keep to lead back that that type
Speaker 1: of stuff mat Although he's not playing back to his
Speaker 1: full form yet, but he'll have a few weeks to
Speaker 1: get back. He's played two games since missing. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: point being, you know we're talking about this isn't the
Speaker 1: same team that the Cowboys had in October. The Rams
Speaker 1: won't be the same team. And if if he's back
Speaker 1: playing like he's been playing, you've got two You know
Speaker 1: you can't pick him though, but again he's not playing
Speaker 1: well because they can pick on him. Now you bring
Speaker 1: that cornerback back, Like I'm just you know, your personnel changes,
Speaker 1: your team changes. The Seahawks can say the same thing,
Speaker 1: um and just with the talent and the offense that
Speaker 1: they have and having the best pass rusher in the NFL. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: I think the Rams are better and more balanced than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Okay, you think the Saints too, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: which does not get does not mean the Cowboys can't
Speaker 1: beat them, That doesn't I mean the Saint The Cowboys
Speaker 1: already beat the Saints. But you just look at it
Speaker 1: on paper, You look at what they do well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that they're number one and two in the
Speaker 1: conference by a pretty wide margin. Yeah. Uncomfortable, And I
Speaker 1: don't really care because this is what we do. But
Speaker 1: how uncomfortable would Jason Garrett be just sitting here? Let's
Speaker 1: talking about but he's got a job to do and
Speaker 1: he's trying to win against it. That's fine. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: having it. He's trying to have a good Tuesday, that's all.
Speaker 1: You don't even know if playing the Colts. But he
Speaker 1: would also say, do your job, and his job is
Speaker 1: to focus on the Colts, and our job is to
Speaker 1: do that. That's what the fans are talking about. They're
Speaker 1: not talking necessarily about the Colts right now. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you this about the Let's go back to that.
Speaker 1: Maybe the first game, assuming you know, whoever gets into
Speaker 1: as the sixth seed is gonna kind of pick it
Speaker 1: up and win a few games here. So whoever you're facing,
Speaker 1: you're facing a team that's relatively hot. I would think, um,
Speaker 1: who would you rather face Seattle or Carolina? Because it's
Speaker 1: really easy to just say Carolina. But when I think
Speaker 1: about what this team does, um, McCaffrey and and Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: they they worry me a little bit more than that.
Speaker 1: Then Seattle's off and I know Russell Wilson, he's tough
Speaker 1: to bring down on it. But from we've seen Carson,
Speaker 1: he ran well on him. I would just say to
Speaker 1: that game, let's do it again, Let's do it again
Speaker 1: in your best players. The same way about Carolina. I honestly,
Speaker 1: if you look the early part of that game, they
Speaker 1: let Cam do some things that by the second half
Speaker 1: he wasn't afore and I think if you gave him
Speaker 1: another crack at that one, I actually think they would
Speaker 1: blow him out. I really do, because I think that
Speaker 1: the more of the season is on worn on with Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have They don't have the weapons.
Speaker 1: It's really those two guys. It's Cam and McCaffrey, and
Speaker 1: they don't have much of a passing game. Funches isn't
Speaker 1: gonna do much. He has an all season, So I
Speaker 1: think that and their defense, in my opinion, isn't as
Speaker 1: good as Seattle's defense. So I still think Carolina is
Speaker 1: a team that you would prefer to play. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: instance things aren't working. I'm gonna nitpick with you too,
Speaker 1: because that it bothered me because, like people gave the
Speaker 1: Seahawks so much credit, Chris Carson had one hundred yards
Speaker 1: in that game. He needed thirty two players to carry
Speaker 1: first three point two yards per carry. That's and you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: and I can hear fans saying this too. Like in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the Cowboys probably don't deserve the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt just given their recent history. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that any Cowboys fans should be afraid of any
Speaker 1: of their first round match. And I go back Russell. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Nick Russell. Wilson's a great player. I think
Speaker 1: the world of him. I would have voted for him
Speaker 1: for MVP last year. He threw for seventy two yards
Speaker 1: in that game. And Doug Baldwin's hurt. That's another point.
Speaker 1: Won't be the same team in three weeks when the
Speaker 1: playoffs come. But there's nobody in that pool of wildcard
Speaker 1: teams that that. I don't think the Cowboys can beat
Speaker 1: well at home. Another point of that, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: they bring Doug Baldwin, that doesn't scare anybody, but um,
Speaker 1: I mean he's solid. Baldwin's solid. He has underrated, but
Speaker 1: they faced better receivers than him this Church job against.
Speaker 1: But the big difference is there when you think about
Speaker 1: that game, the guy on the other side of the
Speaker 1: ball that was just balling out for Seattle obviously not there.
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas Thomas, I'm sorry right now, but Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: with those two interceptions, I mean, how different is the
Speaker 1: game there? Bobby Wagner's a beast too, should be. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That defense is back to playing rod football.
Speaker 1: What was a big play on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball that. I don't think Tyler Lockett's going for
Speaker 1: fifty five on Davier Woods right now. I mean he
Speaker 1: went on cavon Fraser and Xavier Woods is you know,
Speaker 1: I've been the Earl Thomas cheerleader and all that, and
Speaker 1: I might be in the offseason as well. But but Earl,
Speaker 1: I mean, but Xavier Woods has played well. You gotta
Speaker 1: give them credit. And I just think that's a position
Speaker 1: where you could put three good guys back there. I'd
Speaker 1: be okay with three safeties ut are decent. But the
Speaker 1: thing about Seattle, the way Seattle worries you is exactly
Speaker 1: what they did last night. They're not gonna overwhelm you
Speaker 1: with offense, They're just gonna kind of stick around, stick around,
Speaker 1: stick around. Their defense is gonna keep making plays, making plays,
Speaker 1: making plays, and then an opportunity is gonna hit where
Speaker 1: Russell William Wilson breaks a forty yard run and now
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where they get some points. Then
Speaker 1: their defense takes an opportune takes an opportune moment and
Speaker 1: they get a turnover and the points. Right, that's where
Speaker 1: a team like Seattle can beat you. And that's where
Speaker 1: Seattle scares you. If their formulas very they're not a
Speaker 1: team that's an offensive team. They are back to being
Speaker 1: a soundly a defensive team that is opportunistic offensively. And
Speaker 1: you sort of just describe the Cowboys too. Although the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are better offensively, I think that Seattle, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have because they have a better running game, they have
Speaker 1: more ways to beat you. Right, If Dak Prescott, I'm
Speaker 1: watching another highlight of sorry of the game mystery. I
Speaker 1: never saw this highlight yet. If Dak Prescott would ever
Speaker 1: made an interception what Russell Wilson did in the red zone,
Speaker 1: I mean the internet would burn. Yeah, you know it's
Speaker 1: funny though, and a fan pointed this out to me
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I had actually gone and watched a
Speaker 1: couple of programs in the Philly area listen to a
Speaker 1: couple of podcasts. It's amazing number of times I heard
Speaker 1: people in Philadelphia for comparing their quarterback to Dak and
Speaker 1: saying he's just not playing as well as like say
Speaker 1: a Dak Prescott He's not doing and so it kind
Speaker 1: of just it made me chuckle. But it's all about perspective, right.
Speaker 1: You look at your guy and you're like, you see
Speaker 1: all of his deficiencies, you see all of his flaws
Speaker 1: because you've been watching him for a whole season, and
Speaker 1: you're afraid about the things he's done poorly that he's
Speaker 1: gonna creep back up, right. But in other cities they're
Speaker 1: looking at that, and the people in Philly are like, hey,
Speaker 1: whatever his flaws are, all I know is in fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and over time, he killed us. And that's what
Speaker 1: they care about. That's what they look at. That's what
Speaker 1: they're hoping they can get from their quarterback. And and
Speaker 1: so I think sometimes it forces you to kind of
Speaker 1: reevaluate what you're thinking of your own guy. Say, maybe
Speaker 1: he's a little better than I what I'm giving him
Speaker 1: credit for. The biggest football fan in the world does
Speaker 1: not have time to watch every snap for every team,
Speaker 1: So you get all ten thousand of your team snaps
Speaker 1: and you have an insanely good idea of that, and
Speaker 1: then you're just kind of cherry picking what you see
Speaker 1: from everybody else. So you're if you're a Philly fan,
Speaker 1: you're like, when this is so hesitant with the ball.
Speaker 1: I heard that a lot, and he did. He did
Speaker 1: look hesitant with ball. And then you know, you see
Speaker 1: Dak DA's what he's like thirteen to nine and the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter drives and he was amazing in the clutch
Speaker 1: the other day, and you look at that. Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: are like, oh, dak handled onto the ball. He's not accurate.
Speaker 1: Why can't he be more like wins? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just the way it goes. All Right, we gonna say
Speaker 1: our final break, we'll come back and we'll finish up
Speaker 1: with a couple other topics. You want to hit here,
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this offense and Amari Cooper
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about this offense. Um,
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Amark Cooper and what
Speaker 1: he's brought to this team. Looking at some of the numbers,
Speaker 1: he's been outstanding in these six games. Here's my question
Speaker 1: for you guys, based upon what he's provided for this
Speaker 1: offense and now forcing defenses. It's been pretty well documented
Speaker 1: that now when the Cowboys are in eleven personnel, which
Speaker 1: is one running back, one tight end, three wide receivers, before,
Speaker 1: defenses would still put eight men in the box against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now, by and large, I want to say
Speaker 1: it's under two percent of the time do defense is
Speaker 1: actually keep an eighth man in the box when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys present eleven personnel, Now they're keeping the safety back
Speaker 1: because of Amari Cooper. That being said, how much does
Speaker 1: a guy like Tavon Austin help you at this point
Speaker 1: when he returns, presumably maybe this week, maybe next week,
Speaker 1: but certainly by the playoffs you would expect him to
Speaker 1: be back. How much does a guy like him that
Speaker 1: has that kind of lateral speed help you when safeties
Speaker 1: are having to stay back. I think he could be
Speaker 1: absolutely huge, and I thought he could have been an
Speaker 1: even bigger part of what they were doing when they
Speaker 1: didn't have Amari Cooper. But I cannot, I cannot get
Speaker 1: out of my head. It was gimmicky. It was kind
Speaker 1: of cheesy almost, but like it worked what they did
Speaker 1: with Lucky Whitehead, it worked every time, and honest, it
Speaker 1: was working with Tavon before he got hurt. I want
Speaker 1: to say he had nine carries for fifty five yards
Speaker 1: when he got hurt, which is a pretty nice average.
Speaker 1: And I think the only reason they didn't do it
Speaker 1: more is because they didn't have a proven receiver like
Speaker 1: I they they were trying to use him way too
Speaker 1: much as a traditional receiver in my opinion, So I
Speaker 1: think it could be huge. The only thing I just
Speaker 1: I don't trust it, and so I don't want to
Speaker 1: sit here banging a table like it's going to be
Speaker 1: this crazy thing, only for him to not make an
Speaker 1: impact when he comes back because I don't trust them
Speaker 1: to give him is the right way. The guy that
Speaker 1: I think is having the biggest impact is Gallup, and
Speaker 1: I know that that Dak and Gallup have not been
Speaker 1: on the same page yet, but I'll take my chances
Speaker 1: on that because it's not They're not far off and
Speaker 1: we're talking about a really big play. It's there just
Speaker 1: about every game, sometimes twice a game. I do Dave
Speaker 1: might disagree with you. We talked to a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I Dak has overthrown him a couple of times
Speaker 1: and missed a couple of times. I think Gallop needs
Speaker 1: to work on it as well. I think there was
Speaker 1: a play where Gallop stopped running Um. So they just
Speaker 1: got to get on the same page. They will, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a product what you're saying about that
Speaker 1: safety with Cooper, it's just leaving one on one. Gallop
Speaker 1: is got got that deep speed, so I think I
Speaker 1: think that's working. If Cooper can I mean not Cooper Um.
Speaker 1: If Tavon could get in there, moon walk around a
Speaker 1: little bit and make some plays, that'd be great. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing that we've you know, been saying since May.
Speaker 1: And he's got some moves, but dancer, he doesn't need
Speaker 1: a tiny dance. He doesn't need to touch that. He
Speaker 1: didn't need to touch the ball more than three or
Speaker 1: four times a game. But he can make a difference.
Speaker 1: Well that's and that's changed a little bit of three
Speaker 1: or four times a game. And because before Cooper we
Speaker 1: were like seven, eight nine, Well, I just people were
Speaker 1: making fun of the front office for saying that he
Speaker 1: could get a dozen or more touches a game. And
Speaker 1: you know, just if you five punt returns a game,
Speaker 1: three or four handoffs, maybe a catch or two, like,
Speaker 1: you can get there. But with the addition of Cooper,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you, it's gonna come from Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup and I wouldn't want to go away from him.
Speaker 1: So you've got those options. You've got Zeke. You don't
Speaker 1: need to be forced feeding this guy at the ball
Speaker 1: just because you've got so many other weapons. But three
Speaker 1: to six touches a game I think could be great.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think what he did last year
Speaker 1: with the Rams was to me the upside of what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could get out of him, which was he
Speaker 1: was our gadget player. He was a guy that could
Speaker 1: just create different looks. They already had a great running
Speaker 1: games with Gurley, they already had a good passing game.
Speaker 1: They needed him to be a guy that could give
Speaker 1: defenses something else to worry about and do it in
Speaker 1: unconventional ways. Now that you have a guy like Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper on the outside, you're starting to get something from Gallop.
Speaker 1: And I'm of the opinion keep throwing that that's gonna
Speaker 1: connect at some point and you're gonna get that going.
Speaker 1: But you look at those two things. You still got Beasily,
Speaker 1: who was a guy now can play the role which
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be, which he is a guy that
Speaker 1: can in a crucial moment because defenses have to worry
Speaker 1: about everything else got to worry about, and a crucial
Speaker 1: third down he can catch it and move the change
Speaker 1: for you. And in the last few games you've noticed
Speaker 1: he's at two or three good catches at opportune times
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Right. So, I think this is all
Speaker 1: kind of starting to fit together, and I think Tavan
Speaker 1: can really be a gadget guy. Before he was your
Speaker 1: best wide receiving threat before Mark Cooper got here. Those
Speaker 1: are the guys. They were good, but I don't even
Speaker 1: want to say they were good. It was just a
Speaker 1: mashing of a bunch of wide receivers that none of
Speaker 1: them's really stepping forward and being none of them was
Speaker 1: going to be the man. Tavon was the one that
Speaker 1: had the most skill and talent, so you kind of
Speaker 1: wanted him to be. Now he could just be your
Speaker 1: gadget guy, and I think as the gadget guy, he
Speaker 1: can really bring something new to this offense that makes
Speaker 1: defenses respect something different than what you and especially in
Speaker 1: the red zone, that's where I think you can get
Speaker 1: the best use out of him. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because you know, we made that mistake.
Speaker 1: You make the mistake of assuming that it's it's static
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna change like it is going to
Speaker 1: change over these next three games and then into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and if they're gonna win multip if they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a playoff game, let alone multiple, it's gonna need to
Speaker 1: be better. And so the content that's hopefully Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: can play an indie and sort of get his feet
Speaker 1: wet and get some momentum going toward being a viable
Speaker 1: part of this thing by the time the playoffs roll around.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we appreciate you, Guys, Jonas, We'll be
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