WEBVTT - Roy Choi: Cooking with Purpose and Flavor

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to those amigos. This is part two of

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible conversation with our brother over here. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking his book, we're talking heritage, we're talking the struggle

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<v Speaker 1>in the climb up and uh, Freddie, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have some thoughts on the matter, and you were going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask something.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'm just I'm just so happy and grateful to

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<v Speaker 3>have my boy Roy here.

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<v Speaker 2>But that after after you you put out, especially.

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<v Speaker 4>With all the intention and the media that we got,

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<v Speaker 4>because then the media gets involved, right, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>media wants to understand the craze, right, the craze. They

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<v Speaker 4>want you to put it in some poetic one liner

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<v Speaker 4>right right. And for me, in those early days, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was just speaking, spitting my truth, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like the hip hop that we love, right Like

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<v Speaker 4>I was, I was speaking like early Queen's Bridge, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was describing where I'm from, you know whatever, uh

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<v Speaker 4>and uh. For us, it was like I was just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is our food, this is the way we talk,

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<v Speaker 4>this is our slang. This is if you eat this taco,

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<v Speaker 4>it tastes like this block, you know, it tastes like

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<v Speaker 4>Vermont and eighth Street, you know, and then those things

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<v Speaker 4>were written by Australian journalists, English, you know, people from

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<v Speaker 4>around the world. And then then then what happened was

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<v Speaker 4>instead of la being this huge thing, it started to

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<v Speaker 4>get very regional micro right, and then they would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>because of this flavor and this chili and this block

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<v Speaker 4>that these flavors come out.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's such a I think, like the street

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<v Speaker 1>food is now being celebrated worldwide in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I mean, I I was shooting in Europe

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<v Speaker 1>or like a year and a half ago, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go to Rome somewhere and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>corner with a bunch of food tructions, Like, whoa, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone's like really getting inspired. What what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think to you what do you think change in

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<v Speaker 1>the view? What what do you think this brought to

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<v Speaker 1>people that it became such a worldwide phenomen You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We were we were right there in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>it all. And again, why was it an Asian fusion Mexican,

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<v Speaker 4>Korean Korea town tackle truck that ended up being the

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<v Speaker 4>focus of all this? But you know, I can't speak

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<v Speaker 4>for that. All I know is to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were there, you know, and the time that

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<v Speaker 4>we started cooking on the streets, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of racism around street food.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and perception.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they were called roach coaches. You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>lonchettas and trucks were called roach coaches. The whole negativity

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<v Speaker 4>and racism around the way that Western culture looked at Latinos.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the water in Tijuana diarrhea, If you eat

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<v Speaker 4>the food, it's dirty, it's roach coaches. These are words

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<v Speaker 4>that like people were using to describe culture, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to describe life. And what happened was we just went

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<v Speaker 4>out there with this truck. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 4>technology and the social media and then the craze of

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<v Speaker 4>everyone being able to access it. A lot of racism

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<v Speaker 4>comes from ignorance and fear right and so finally people

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<v Speaker 4>that didn't have access to food trucks or street food

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<v Speaker 4>or vendors, they were finally able to access things in

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<v Speaker 4>their life because it was this new kind of hip

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<v Speaker 4>thing and they realized it wasn't what they were led

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<v Speaker 4>to believe, you know what I mean, It wasn't dirty,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't it wasn't gross, It wasn't a roach coach,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and it was actually delicious. And we're all

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<v Speaker 4>human and these are this is culture, and so that

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<v Speaker 4>all led to things moving from roach coach to gourmet

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<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, you know, and that

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<v Speaker 4>shows how powerful language is, right, you go from calling

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<v Speaker 4>something a roach coach to calling it a gourmet food truck. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden, that same person that was

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<v Speaker 4>saying those things is now hiring that same truck for

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<v Speaker 4>their kids' birthday party. And that's all within one It's

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<v Speaker 4>a circle of life. And then that leads to the

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<v Speaker 4>next thing. Then all of a sudden, corporations and economy

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<v Speaker 4>gets behind it, and the industry gets behind it. So

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<v Speaker 4>all these things start to change. We see it in

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<v Speaker 4>your guys, this world with like storytelling, right and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, different projects being funded now, and then people

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<v Speaker 4>like yourselves becoming producers and you know, and investors and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, bringing in stories that were not brought in before.

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<v Speaker 4>All of that stuff changes.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does change until your point.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes individuals like you to say that fusion is

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<v Speaker 1>not only allowed, right, I mean we always talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they always try to make us you're either

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<v Speaker 1>Korean or you're American, or you're either Latino or you're American,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And we always talk over here about the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred percent, Like why can't be two hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean to one hundred percent of that one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of this and that makes it really special.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the idea that these these collaborations with

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<v Speaker 1>flavors and culture that happened in the streets now have

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<v Speaker 1>a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>In pop culture worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these are restaurant ideas that were never allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to be because they weren't allowed to play nice with

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<v Speaker 1>each other. You know, they weren't they weren't seen as mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't seen as as crowd pleasers or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I think, Like what Kogie did

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<v Speaker 1>in such a you know, in such an iconic way,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it allowed it for it to be like

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<v Speaker 1>why not all these fusions were happening in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were never allowed to be a real business.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a strong believer in like the cream rises to

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<v Speaker 3>the top, right, Like like good is good, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I have family members in Chicago and Wisconsin who don't

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about acting, nothing about movies or TV. But

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<v Speaker 3>they can sit there and they can tell you if

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<v Speaker 3>an actor is good or not or I or if

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that they're watching is good or not, because

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<v Speaker 3>they have this sort of instinct this this this visceral

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<v Speaker 3>reaction to it. And I just think that part of

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<v Speaker 3>what made you successful was that you were telling your truth.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your truth, right, this food was your truth

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<v Speaker 3>and good is good. You know, people got over this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like, oh, how could you merge sort of

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<v Speaker 3>Korean and Mexican, And then once they took a bite,

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, damn, this thing is good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, and that truth goes back, It goes

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<v Speaker 4>back deeper than just the beginning of the truck. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I grew up around Latinos my whole life.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I really want to do this podcast. It

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<v Speaker 4>just like it feels comfortable to me. It feels it

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<v Speaker 4>feels very familiar to me. It's you know, I was

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<v Speaker 4>low riding when I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of who you are too, who I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I was Wittier boulevard. You know, you could you could

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<v Speaker 4>you could check the receipts, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on with your boulevard cruising Pico Rivera back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day. I was. I was spitting game at

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, trying. I was at the dances.

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<v Speaker 4>I had the pompador, you know, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 4>listening to freestyle. I was out there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was in kitchens. I was, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 4>side of teas and moms and you know, helping them

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<v Speaker 4>cook and watch. And I was a good eater. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>growing up, I was real chubby kids. So like the

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<v Speaker 4>moms used to love me. Man, you know, like all

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<v Speaker 4>my friends, I go to the houses and again, like

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<v Speaker 4>I told you, I was alone a lot. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just rolled to my friends houses and I was a

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<v Speaker 4>little chubby can they loved me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't leave the table whole they would clean.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think once I started cooking, and once

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<v Speaker 4>I especially when I went out there to the streets,

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<v Speaker 4>it just felt natural and people could feel that I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't a poser or or my you know, they felt

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<v Speaker 4>something familiar as well, from from us, I want to believe,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and even from the early early nights, we

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<v Speaker 4>would come back because the just so you all know

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<v Speaker 4>the trucks here in Los Angeles. We we're like our

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<v Speaker 4>own subculture. We're like, we're like the kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>the gangs of the movie The Warriors. Yeah, like we

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<v Speaker 4>go back to our own little kind of like compounds

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<v Speaker 4>at night. So at night we all chuck back to these.

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<v Speaker 4>There's three three or four big compounds here in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>one up here in the valley, there's one on Slawson,

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<v Speaker 4>and one in downtown LA, and then one in Huntington Park.

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<v Speaker 4>And basically all the trucks you see out there on

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<v Speaker 4>the streets, we all go back to one of these

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<v Speaker 4>four compounds. And in these four compounds are surrounded by

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<v Speaker 4>these big cinder block walls, and it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a big prison yard but in the in the but

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<v Speaker 4>if a prison yard was like a musical.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like colorful truck colorful trucks and a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of like uh like ladies teas that are really bossy,

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<v Speaker 5>really bossy, but in charge and amazing, and they've been

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<v Speaker 5>working all day.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's so much gossip, street gossip, as.

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<v Speaker 6>You all know, like it's the best got each other

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<v Speaker 6>and everything, everything so much that thing's awfully does so

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<v Speaker 6>much gossip and then so you think they're not the

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<v Speaker 6>ladies got egoized. Man, you think they're not gonna notice

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<v Speaker 6>like a bunch of Asian guys coming in on a truck,

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So they spotted us right away. But we were accepted

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<v Speaker 4>right away and loved and they tasted our food and

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<v Speaker 4>they're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what y'all was gonna ask you that? Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever had like a straight up like Mexican dia, like

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<v Speaker 3>taste your food, taste your burritos, taste.

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<v Speaker 4>From the early days, they knew, they knew too, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What did they What was their reaction or something like that?

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<v Speaker 4>They I got my nickname. They call me Poppychulo from

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<v Speaker 4>they one they want they want get that level of

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<v Speaker 4>difficulty eleven eleven, that's it. From day one, they christened me.

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<v Speaker 4>They christened me like at first they were just like who,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who are they? Everyone was on water again,

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<v Speaker 4>like a prison yard. Everyone truck, So our truck we

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<v Speaker 4>pulled in, Everyone's you know, whistling, Everyone's like who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they knew everything, They knew everything about us

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<v Speaker 4>from day one, you know, and then they tasted the food.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I'll tell you exactly exactly, but they I fed

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<v Speaker 4>everybody the food. I walked It was almost like I

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<v Speaker 4>walked out of this pile and I had like lipstick

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<v Speaker 4>marks all over that I've seriously, it was like a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what happened on day one, and we haven't looked

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<v Speaker 4>back since.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know this is this.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy that we were able to do

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<v Speaker 1>this episode of Euroy because what we've been trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to use this word that's like so

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<v Speaker 1>terrible for everybody, but we've been trying to preach for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, is that we all share the same passions.

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<v Speaker 1>We our cultures are co existing together for decades and

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<v Speaker 1>decades and hundreds of years in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that allowed us to actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Acknowledge that we're not only in the same room together,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're all winning and losing together, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the idea that we can bring all of

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<v Speaker 1>our cultures in one room, and whether it's an industry,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a project, whether it's a movie, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a business, whatever it is, you know, you have an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to tell everyone, hey, we're not like we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Never been different.

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<v Speaker 1>We all want the same thing, right, especially when we're

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<v Speaker 1>in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I love what you're saying, because it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be even more difficult as we move forward with the

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<v Speaker 4>algorithms and technology and AI and all.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're gonna make us categories.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is so categorized, everything is so binary. It's either

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<v Speaker 4>your this or that. I think that's why it's even

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<v Speaker 4>more important for us that are still are the the

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<v Speaker 4>last legs of these legacies to continue to speak our truth,

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<v Speaker 4>share our truth, and try to shape culture moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we can't stop it, but we can at

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<v Speaker 4>least continue to water the garden because there was a

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<v Speaker 4>very special time. I mean the times that we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about at dinner. You know, I come we come from

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<v Speaker 4>an era of hip hop where it didn't really matter race.

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<v Speaker 4>You were a part of cruise, right, Like if you could,

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<v Speaker 4>if you could be boy, it didn't matter what color

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<v Speaker 4>res you were. You're nice. You just had to be nice.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's something about that that I want to translate

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<v Speaker 4>in the right words, in the right expression for for

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<v Speaker 4>the future. You know, I want to still make it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make it relatable and use the language

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, the algorithm can pick up on or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's something about that that I want to continue

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<v Speaker 4>and you're just talking about that, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're all here together. You know, we spend so much

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<v Speaker 4>energy separating each other. What if we spent that energy

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<v Speaker 4>like really, you know, investing in each other. Like, imagine

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<v Speaker 4>where we could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you did, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody everybody really frown on cross pollinating. Right, They're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you stay your lane. You're living this block,

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<v Speaker 1>they live in that block. But look at what happened

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<v Speaker 1>when you cross polanated. Look at what happened when you

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<v Speaker 1>took what you knew when you grew up with and

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<v Speaker 1>embraced the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>That you were being raised around.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all of a sudden magic happened, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>not only feeding that community, we're feeding others and welcoming

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<v Speaker 1>other communities to discover the fusion and the gift of

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<v Speaker 1>two cultures coming together in one.

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<v Speaker 4>Truck picking up on that and we're just food. We're

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<v Speaker 4>like the lowest not the lowest thing, but we're like.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the most powerful cultures.

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<v Speaker 4>Have fusion happened in politics, in storytelling, in business, in

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<v Speaker 4>the wealth gap, you know, in education, in access to

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<v Speaker 4>UH to opportunities. You know, you know you asked me

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<v Speaker 4>earlier about why do I do these things? You know

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<v Speaker 4>the reason I do them because I'm still out there

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<v Speaker 4>on the streets every day feeding. And when you're out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you're still plugged in and connected. And no matter how

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<v Speaker 4>much we want to believe that the world has changed,

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<v Speaker 4>it hasn't. We could go right now, I could take

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<v Speaker 4>you block by block, city by city for miles and

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<v Speaker 4>miles neighborhoods and schools that don't have Wi Fi, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that don't have access to nutritional food or fruits or vegetables.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't they can't even get a job, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's no industry around where they're living. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that don't even have like sports programs or arts program

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<v Speaker 4>that they can funnel their energy into because all those

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<v Speaker 4>things are cut, you know what I mean. And so

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<v Speaker 4>like we got we got to start investing in each

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<v Speaker 4>other in some way, because, as you say, look at

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<v Speaker 4>the magic that happens when we strip away like all

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<v Speaker 4>of the barriers and we just let who we naturally

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<v Speaker 4>are grow and we we have no idea like how

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<v Speaker 4>much magic there is out there in the world, And

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<v Speaker 4>I hate to be so passionate about you guys, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like we don't even know the potential of

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<v Speaker 4>where we could be as humans.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, are people ever surprised that that you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>still that plugged in, that you're still in the trucks,

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<v Speaker 3>that you're still I'm sure the perception is like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why are you still on these trucks, Like why aren't

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<v Speaker 3>you and like why haven't you started your gigantic restaurant chain?

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't you there? Why aren't you?

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<v Speaker 3>But like every time I see you, I've been with

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<v Speaker 3>you on your you know, I've seen You've gotten me

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<v Speaker 3>burritos from your truck before, and I found that really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you saw me when I did the pop

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<v Speaker 4>up last day, right Tacos Vida you saw it was

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<v Speaker 4>just like oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one man.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have seen him.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like out there, you were, you were in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But like like why, like like for the people who

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<v Speaker 3>wonder like why, and I know you just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>answered it, But like I find that incredibly humbling that

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<v Speaker 3>you're still that you're still like in the trenches where

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<v Speaker 3>where you you clearly could be somewhere else doing other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I I don't know. I think on one end,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if people are too surprised, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think once they meet me, they know like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I haven't gone anywhere. But I think a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it is, you know, it's what I love to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like and I feel tapping into your two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>percent idea. I feel like I can do two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>percent of things, Like I can still use my brain

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<v Speaker 4>for things and think think about you know, other things,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, manage projects or be a CEO of something.

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<v Speaker 4>But I could still do that one hundred percent. But

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<v Speaker 4>I could still be on the ground one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this doesn't take away from that, so that

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<v Speaker 4>that's partly probably why.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's authenticity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, that's authenticity speaking at the loudest form.

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<v Speaker 1>H you know, in the speaking of authenticity, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pay it because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so important. It's very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>To publish a book, Yes, it's very hard. And you

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<v Speaker 1>have absolutely immortalized, you know, your legacy in this cookbook, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a lot of really great dishes here

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to give you. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you knew this, but our two producers Leo and and

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<v Speaker 1>and Social Death Sophie, they took up on themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>pay a little tribute to you, and they took this

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<v Speaker 1>and they cooked something or they made something from this cookbook. Leo,

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind? Do you want to explain what you

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<v Speaker 1>guys did here?

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<v Speaker 4>Good? Yeah, that's a great recipe. Let's see if Leo, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see if my recipes work.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we do the test.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to the test, tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about this book and how this came about.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's called The Choy of Cooking. It's a play

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<v Speaker 4>on the joy of cooking. If any of you had

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<v Speaker 4>ever grown up with that book, I was made my

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<v Speaker 4>name rhymes Roy Troy, so as a kid, you can

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<v Speaker 4>imagine all the shit I had to deal with. But

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<v Speaker 4>I finally took that and put power into it. And

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<v Speaker 4>the first cookbook that entered my family life was The

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<v Speaker 4>Joy of Cooking. And as I was, as me and

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<v Speaker 4>my team were writing this book trying to find the title,

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<v Speaker 4>like I did a deep dive into who I am

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<v Speaker 4>and what legacy I want to leave on this planet,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't think it's the end of my physical life,

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<v Speaker 4>right now. But I thought of, like, what if this

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<v Speaker 4>book was still around one hundred years from now, two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred years from now, and someone found it, like at

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<v Speaker 4>the Pasadena flea market or something, and they found it

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<v Speaker 4>digging in a bin, Like I want to have this

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<v Speaker 4>like long life, and it could mark like a timestamp

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<v Speaker 4>of who this person was.

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<v Speaker 2>Impression.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that person who I am is

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to bring joy to people's lives. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've I've been around on this planet enough

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<v Speaker 4>to where I've lived through so many different life cycles.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I had my you know, I was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been angry. You know I've been mad, I've been uh,

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<v Speaker 4>down and out. You know, I've been a piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been all the things that you go

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<v Speaker 4>through in life. And and I think where I finally

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 4>have landed is uh you know, I just want to

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<v Speaker 4>bring happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's like where I want to do. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what this book's about. Man. It's this books about like

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<v Speaker 4>recipes and stories that bring happiness to someone's life, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, you know, cookbooks hard to write, because any

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 4>books hard to write, because like there there's editors, man,

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.200
<v Speaker 4>those editors, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Construgress like this word better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like freestyle man.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I'll tell you this though. You what you

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<v Speaker 1>did in the cover. I mean I see, I see

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<v Speaker 1>all the influences that we just talked about here, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you so all the little pictures here, who's this right here?

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<v Speaker 4>That's me?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's me, So that's you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh and then I see the palm trees

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<v Speaker 1>and is that is that an impollo?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that actually your Paula?

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't mine, but you know, my friends have all

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<v Speaker 4>had one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a Chevy Blazer that was Chevy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, twelves in the back, speakers in the bag, I

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<v Speaker 7>have fifteen fifteen yeah, Alpine pulled out which yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>had a pioneer, Yeah, I had I was a pioneer, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>and vega.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the back inkis rooms lowered all the way

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<v Speaker 4>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have you have children?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, one want children.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about what you're leaving to your kids, right, I

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.959
<v Speaker 1>mean your kid is gonna look at this. Yeah, it's

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna pass it on. It's gonna pass it on. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is now two versions of your family going down

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. You know, eventually this is who Grandpa was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>And books still books still a big deal. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>as a big deal is maybe it used to be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like growing up in America, like there used

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<v Speaker 4>to be a dream for all creatives of like if

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<v Speaker 4>I could just write a book. Right, it's not the

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<v Speaker 4>same anymore, but still it's still pretty important.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but you're more immortalizing your legacy, motalizing your heritage.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you're letting them know that while you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were here you did something.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that and that's beautiful. So congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Make you think about it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're trying to are gonna try.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna either leave on a high or

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<v Speaker 1>leave on a low.

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<v Speaker 4>We're eating with peed chips.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's is I guess it's speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this too? You should.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Oh, Leo, it was good?

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<v Speaker 3>Great?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you you worked on this as well? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>How was the recipe pretty easy to follow? I was

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 4>very easy to just stick everything in a blender. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 4>all the herbs were it was very interesting and you

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned the.

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<v Speaker 3>Smell there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I smelled it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in Venezuela there is a similar sauce like that

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<v Speaker 1>cold and please don't judge in their name. It's it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from indigenous sounds or whatever, but it's called Guasa

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<v Speaker 1>Kaka's CoA.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever hear of us of an isueling kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dipping sauce, could be addressing, could be anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you can put it on steak and chickens, or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can put it on yuka and you can dip the yuka.

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<v Speaker 4>That yeah, especially with the ya. Yes, it's just this consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly right, exactly. My mom makes it, and uh, you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Obsessed with with food I launched multiple restaurants in my

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<v Speaker 1>life too, so I you know, I went in La.

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<v Speaker 1>We had adults, we had Getesha House, we had the lotch,

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<v Speaker 1>we had all kinds of different stuff in La. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was really obsessed with food. My mom was a

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<v Speaker 1>great cook too. So there was a cuta. So as

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>soon as I saw that, I was like, oh, that

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>looks like what's a cutga? And it smell and actually

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>has an interesting same consistency. This has a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a sweet finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweet from the rice vinegar, I believe.

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<v Speaker 8>And then yeah, and then the man, yeah, great job,

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<v Speaker 8>and you yeah, you got the emotion correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So so Roy you we have these recipes, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the book, like you have the trucks, you have all that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're you're also expanding. I mean, you know, we

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 3>obviously saw you in Chef, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I try to do what you all do.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>The only problem is I can't remember shit, you know

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm the worst at auditions too. I'm great at

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 4>playing myself, but every time they asked me to play

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<v Speaker 4>someone else, Oh no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, How did it finally start to transition into into

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<v Speaker 3>movies into television? Was was Chef the first sort of

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 3>foray into into uh into movies and just the.

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<v Speaker 4>First big one. But I think you know, on one level,

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<v Speaker 4>like as creatives, it's really easy when you see another

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<v Speaker 4>creative or when you connect you know, across the table,

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter whether it's music or food or or acting

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. Like you you share something and you can

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<v Speaker 4>like get to shorthand right away. Right. So there's that

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<v Speaker 4>one thing. But the true bridge was that kogie from

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<v Speaker 4>the from the early days after the whole kind of

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 4>first initial phenomenon took off. We started really getting hired

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to feed film sets because the creatives picked

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<v Speaker 4>up on it first, and so within our first year

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of us so the first year was

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 4>really just pounding the pavement, being on the streets, going

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 4>neighborhood and the neighborhood blocked the box. But then as

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 4>as that year started to come to an end, then

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 4>people started to understand like who we really were, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we got our shit together a little bit and

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 4>we had we put up an email. We had no

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 4>email like that email like, you know, to contact us.

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 4>We were just out there, man, we didn't have no plan,

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 4>you know. And then finally we got an email up.

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 4>As soon as we put the email up, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people from Radford Studios, from Paramount, from Warner Brothers, from

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 4>everywhere being like, oh dude, like, you know, can we

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 4>hire you for a rap party? Can we hire you

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 4>to feed our crew? You know, we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>a surprise, So we started showing up to film sets,

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<v Speaker 4>the movie sets really really early. And then there were

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people within the industry that were really

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<v Speaker 4>early on Koge too, and one was Gwyneth Paltrow. So

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<v Speaker 4>Gwyneth hired us for Iron Man two's rap party. So

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<v Speaker 4>that was like the first one of the first big

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<v Speaker 4>ones that we did. So this is the story. So

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<v Speaker 4>what happened was this was one of our like this

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<v Speaker 4>is in the second year, early part of the second

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 4>year coche. We didn't know anything. We know our head

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 4>from our asshole. And then we went to the rap party.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 4>But it was in Malibu, up on this hill, and

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 4>our truck is an old ass truck. And then we

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 4>went up this driveway but we got stuck there. So

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 4>we served the whole party and everyone loved it, licking

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 4>their fingers everything. But then as we said bye, you know,

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 4>and we were backing up, the truck didn't move. So

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 4>we're there all night. And then so we got to

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 4>know everybody and everything. Everyone remember Kogie. And then later

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 4>when John was in final kind of like pre production

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 4>for his film Chef, he remembered our truck, he remembered us,

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 4>and he found me. He reached out to my team

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 4>and found me and uh hired me to come in

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 4>to you know, see if I could just be a consultant.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 4>So I was supposed to be initially kind of like

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 4>if you were doing a boxing movie. I was just

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to come in for like two weeks and just

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 4>teach him, you know, like just to.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Like as a tech.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I was just a technical consultant. But from day one,

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<v Speaker 4>John and I just hit it off. Yeah, I mean, like,

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, shout out to John, that's my brother. You know,

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 4>like we just we just hit it off from day one,

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 4>and then we forgot about just being like the dudes

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 4>that we are, Like, we just forgot about why the

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 4>hell we even were supposed to be together. We just

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 4>started spending every day together, you know, we were dose

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 4>of eagles, you know. And uh, and then that just

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 4>that just naturally moved into I brought him into because

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 4>he was studying to be a chef. So I was, yeah,

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 4>because the movie he was playing a chef he was.

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 3>I know that, but I'm in real life he was

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>studying No.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 4>No, he was studying so the movie. So what I

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 4>did was, because we hit it off from day one,

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I pulled him into my world. I just like started

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 4>bringing him to the inside inside world of being a

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 4>chef running a kitchen, and he brought me into his world.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 4>And it just felt so natural for the both of us.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, like I had never been that close to

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<v Speaker 4>a camera before. I'd never.

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, you've never seeing the same thing and you know,

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>laid out twenty five times.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.479
<v Speaker 4>But you know, your guys' world is very similar to

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 4>the cooking world in the sense that there is a

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 4>level of brigade, you know, to start from pa to crib,

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you go up and you don't necessarily

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, you have to pay your dues to get

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 4>all the way up to the camera, you know, or

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 4>get up to give direction to something. You know, same

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 4>thing in the kitchen you're starting peeling potatoes and cutting chives.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 4>You're not saucing until you know, a few years in.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 4>But John let me see every level of the of

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 4>the industry, and I felt very natural with every every

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 4>layer of it, and and that just led to you know,

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 4>then then it was like the people I would meet

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 4>along the way, you know, within your guys on set,

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 4>they're all like, yeah, you know your kogie, I have

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 4>kogi yesterday, this is that, and so everyone was very familiar.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 4>So that world was very natural for me. And then

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 4>and then from that, you know, like people just asked

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 4>me to be in stuff, so then I got asked

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>to be in Gilmore Girls. Right, I did Gilmore Girls.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I got my SAG card because.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>They always.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because of the Gilmore Girls, you got me as

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 4>an actor. Uh. And then uh I did some other

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 4>cameos here and there. You know, It's always been fun.

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 3>But but but even but even on like behind it,

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 3>like like even this book right like that that that

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>obviously was sort of the the doorway for the more

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 3>commercial version of of Roy Troy right like and and

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>and you haven't you started like restaurants and do you

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 3>have other stuff?

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I have a restaurant in Las Vegas. I

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 4>always try to bounce. I think we touched on it earlier.

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 4>It's like every time I get into an endeavor that

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 4>maybe feels bigger or mainstream or whatever, I always try

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 4>to balance it maybe with something that is like involved

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 4>in like the social justice of something. So like even

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 4>even in entertainment, I do the same. You know, if

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>I have a Netflix show, you know I've been involved.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 4>I cooked on you know, uh, you know Megan the

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Duchess of you know, where is she the Duchess of Sussex? Yeah?

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Sorry man, but yeah, the you know, I'm on a

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Netflix show. But then I do public television, you know,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 4>and try to do a show based around, uh, the

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 4>inequities of access to food. So every time I'm doing

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 4>something maybe mainstream entertainment, I try to balance it with

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 4>underground you know. I just kind of you know, it's

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 4>like open mic. And then you know, doing like a

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 4>big comedy special. Like it's like, you know, comedians do

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 4>it all the time too, right, It's kind of like

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 4>how you stay sharp and connected, you know, like all

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 4>the comedians you see doing arenas are you know, popping

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 4>up at the comedy store late night on Thursday, you know,

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 4>And it's just like, I don't know, it's just the

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 4>way that I do things.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 3>So so, so tell us about the restaurants in Vegas. Uh.

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have two restaurants in Vegas. One that's called

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.959
<v Speaker 4>Best Friend, you know, and that restaurant is kind of

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 4>like it's kind of like me bringing Los Angeles to Vegas.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 4>So it's like pulling people into like that specific part

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 4>of Korea Town and South Central and East LA that

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.479
<v Speaker 4>we've been talking about, and we created kind of like

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 4>a world like in Vegas with that and you walk

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 4>through this portal and it takes you into Los Angeles

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 4>through the fields, the sounds, the music, the design, and

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 4>the food, and then the show and the movie. Chef

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 4>we built the truck, so that movie is built around

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 4>a food truck that serves kubanos. So you know we

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 4>turned that truck. Yeah, is the chef of that truck

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 4>and we turned that truck into a restaurant in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's incredible, man. We look, we are so incredibly

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>grateful to you know, to call you an ally, to

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>call your friend, and it's incredibly inspiring for all of

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>us to continue to hear these Brazilian stories that you know,

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>define who we are, not only as immigrants, spread the

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>humanity that we actually experienced with one another. I know

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that the whole season we'll be talking about you coming on,

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>so we we definitely you know, you've been in like

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the top of the.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Superstars in this.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>But really, really he's another one who we.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Got to get John. Where are you at? Come on, John,

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 4>let's go we do a partner piece.

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<v Speaker 1>But John John winsa a moment from being available, and

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, Christopher Nolan called him and

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, there's this little movie co.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, but but you know, John's heart is here.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>But that's the most important. But we're so excited. Thank you.

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it so much.

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And everybody get get his book and watch his movies

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and and the Gilmore Girls spot too, because that's gonna

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>be a really.

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<v Speaker 4>Great mom is crazy the fan base. I love you all, crazy, dude.

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