1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back to those amigos. This is part two of 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: this incredible conversation with our brother over here. And we're 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: talking his book, we're talking heritage, we're talking the struggle 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: in the climb up and uh, Freddie, I know that 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: you you. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Have some thoughts on the matter, and you were going 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: to ask something. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm just I'm just so happy and grateful to 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: have my boy Roy here. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: But that after after you you put out, especially. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: With all the intention and the media that we got, 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: because then the media gets involved, right, and then the 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: media wants to understand the craze, right, the craze. They 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: want you to put it in some poetic one liner 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: right right. And for me, in those early days, you know, 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: I was just speaking, spitting my truth, you know, kind 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: of like the hip hop that we love, right Like 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: I was, I was speaking like early Queen's Bridge, you know, 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: I was describing where I'm from, you know whatever, uh 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: and uh. For us, it was like I was just saying, like, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: this is our food, this is the way we talk, 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: this is our slang. This is if you eat this taco, 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: it tastes like this block, you know, it tastes like 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: Vermont and eighth Street, you know, and then those things 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: were written by Australian journalists, English, you know, people from 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: around the world. And then then then what happened was 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: instead of la being this huge thing, it started to 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: get very regional micro right, and then they would say, oh, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: because of this flavor and this chili and this block 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: that these flavors come out. 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: So that's so interesting. 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a I think, like the street 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: food is now being celebrated worldwide in a way that's 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I I was shooting in Europe 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: or like a year and a half ago, and uh, 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, you go to Rome somewhere and there's a 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: corner with a bunch of food tructions, Like, whoa, what's. 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Going on here? 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's like really getting inspired. What what do 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: you think to you what do you think change in 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the view? What what do you think this brought to 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: people that it became such a worldwide phenomen You know. 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: We were we were right there in the middle of 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: it all. And again, why was it an Asian fusion Mexican, 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: Korean Korea town tackle truck that ended up being the 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: focus of all this? But you know, I can't speak 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: for that. All I know is to tell you the truth. 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: And we were there, you know, and the time that 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: we started cooking on the streets, there was a lot 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: of racism around street food. 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: You know, and perception. 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: You know, they were called roach coaches. You know, the 53 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 4: lonchettas and trucks were called roach coaches. The whole negativity 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 4: and racism around the way that Western culture looked at Latinos. 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: You know, the water in Tijuana diarrhea, If you eat 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: the food, it's dirty, it's roach coaches. These are words 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: that like people were using to describe culture, you know, 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: to describe life. And what happened was we just went 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: out there with this truck. I think it was the 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: technology and the social media and then the craze of 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: everyone being able to access it. A lot of racism 62 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: comes from ignorance and fear right and so finally people 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: that didn't have access to food trucks or street food 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: or vendors, they were finally able to access things in 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: their life because it was this new kind of hip 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: thing and they realized it wasn't what they were led 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: to believe, you know what I mean, It wasn't dirty, 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't gross, It wasn't a roach coach, 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: you know, and it was actually delicious. And we're all 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: human and these are this is culture, and so that 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: all led to things moving from roach coach to gourmet 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, you know, and that 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: shows how powerful language is, right, you go from calling 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: something a roach coach to calling it a gourmet food truck. Right, 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, that same person that was 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: saying those things is now hiring that same truck for 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: their kids' birthday party. And that's all within one It's 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: a circle of life. And then that leads to the 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: next thing. Then all of a sudden, corporations and economy 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: gets behind it, and the industry gets behind it. So 81 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: all these things start to change. We see it in 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: your guys, this world with like storytelling, right and you know, 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: you know, different projects being funded now, and then people 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: like yourselves becoming producers and you know, and investors and 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: you know, bringing in stories that were not brought in before. 86 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: All of that stuff changes. 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: It really does change until your point. 88 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: It takes individuals like you to say that fusion is 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: not only allowed, right, I mean we always talk about this, 90 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, they always try to make us you're either 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Korean or you're American, or you're either Latino or you're American, 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, And we always talk over here about the 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: two hundred percent, Like why can't be two hundred percent? 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to one hundred percent of that one 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: hundred percent of this and that makes it really special. 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I think that the idea that these these collaborations with 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: flavors and culture that happened in the streets now have 98 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a moment. 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: In pop culture worldwide. 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, these are restaurant ideas that were never allowed 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: to be because they weren't allowed to play nice with 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: each other. You know, they weren't they weren't seen as mainstream. 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: They weren't seen as as crowd pleasers or you know. 104 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: And so that's what I think, Like what Kogie did 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: in such a you know, in such an iconic way, 106 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: is that it allowed it for it to be like 107 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: why not all these fusions were happening in the streets, 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: but they were never allowed to be a real business. 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: You know. 110 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: I'm a strong believer in like the cream rises to 111 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: the top, right, Like like good is good, right, Like 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: I have family members in Chicago and Wisconsin who don't 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: know anything about acting, nothing about movies or TV. But 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: they can sit there and they can tell you if 115 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: an actor is good or not or I or if 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: the thing that they're watching is good or not, because 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: they have this sort of instinct this this this visceral 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: reaction to it. And I just think that part of 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: what made you successful was that you were telling your truth. 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: This is your truth, right, this food was your truth 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: and good is good. You know, people got over this 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: sort of like, oh, how could you merge sort of 123 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: Korean and Mexican, And then once they took a bite, 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: they were like, damn, this thing is good. 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and that truth goes back, It goes 126 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: back deeper than just the beginning of the truck. You know, 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: like I grew up around Latinos my whole life. 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: You know. 129 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: That's why I really want to do this podcast. It 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: just like it feels comfortable to me. It feels it 131 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: feels very familiar to me. It's you know, I was 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: low riding when I was sixteen. 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: It's part of who you are too, who I am. 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: I was Wittier boulevard. You know, you could you could 135 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: you could check the receipts, you know, like you know, 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: I was on with your boulevard cruising Pico Rivera back 137 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: in the day. I was. I was spitting game at 138 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 4: you know, you know, trying. I was at the dances. 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: I had the pompador, you know, you know, I was 140 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: listening to freestyle. I was out there, you know, and 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: I was in kitchens. I was, you know, at the 142 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: side of teas and moms and you know, helping them 143 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: cook and watch. And I was a good eater. You know, 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: growing up, I was real chubby kids. So like the 145 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: moms used to love me. Man, you know, like all 146 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: my friends, I go to the houses and again, like 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: I told you, I was alone a lot. So I 148 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: just rolled to my friends houses and I was a 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: little chubby can they loved me. 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to. 151 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't leave the table whole they would clean. 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: And so I think once I started cooking, and once 153 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: I especially when I went out there to the streets, 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: it just felt natural and people could feel that I 155 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: wasn't a poser or or my you know, they felt 156 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: something familiar as well, from from us, I want to believe, 157 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: you know, and even from the early early nights, we 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: would come back because the just so you all know 159 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: the trucks here in Los Angeles. We we're like our 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: own subculture. We're like, we're like the kind of like 161 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: the gangs of the movie The Warriors. Yeah, like we 162 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: go back to our own little kind of like compounds 163 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 4: at night. So at night we all chuck back to these. 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 4: There's three three or four big compounds here in Los Angeles, 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: one up here in the valley, there's one on Slawson, 166 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: and one in downtown LA, and then one in Huntington Park. 167 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: And basically all the trucks you see out there on 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: the streets, we all go back to one of these 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: four compounds. And in these four compounds are surrounded by 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: these big cinder block walls, and it's like it's like 171 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: a big prison yard but in the in the but 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: if a prison yard was like a musical. 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's like colorful truck colorful trucks and a 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: bunch of like uh like ladies teas that are really bossy, 175 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 5: really bossy, but in charge and amazing, and they've been 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: working all day. 177 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: And then there's so much gossip, street gossip, as. 178 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 6: You all know, like it's the best got each other 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 6: and everything, everything so much that thing's awfully does so 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: much gossip and then so you think they're not the 181 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 6: ladies got egoized. Man, you think they're not gonna notice 182 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 6: like a bunch of Asian guys coming in on a truck, 183 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 6: you know. 184 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: So they spotted us right away. But we were accepted 185 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: right away and loved and they tasted our food and 186 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: they're like. 187 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, what y'all was gonna ask you that? Have you 188 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: ever had like a straight up like Mexican dia, like 189 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: taste your food, taste your burritos, taste. 190 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 4: From the early days, they knew, they knew too, you know. 191 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: What did they What was their reaction or something like that? 192 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: They I got my nickname. They call me Poppychulo from 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: they one they want they want get that level of 194 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: difficulty eleven eleven, that's it. From day one, they christened me. 195 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: They christened me like at first they were just like who, 196 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: you know, who are they? Everyone was on water again, 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: like a prison yard. Everyone truck, So our truck we 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: pulled in, Everyone's you know, whistling, Everyone's like who is this? 199 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: You know, they knew everything, They knew everything about us 200 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: from day one, you know, and then they tasted the food. 201 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: Then I'll tell you exactly exactly, but they I fed 202 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: everybody the food. I walked It was almost like I 203 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: walked out of this pile and I had like lipstick 204 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: marks all over that I've seriously, it was like a movie. 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: That's what happened on day one, and we haven't looked 206 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: back since. 207 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: You know, you know this is this. 208 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: I am so happy that we were able to do 209 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: this episode of Euroy because what we've been trying to do, 210 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: and I'm going to use this word that's like so 211 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: terrible for everybody, but we've been trying to preach for 212 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: so long, is that we all share the same passions. 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: We our cultures are co existing together for decades and 214 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: decades and hundreds of years in this country. 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: And then that allowed us to actually. 216 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Acknowledge that we're not only in the same room together, 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: but we're all winning and losing together, you know. And 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I think the idea that we can bring all of 219 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: our cultures in one room, and whether it's an industry, 220 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a project, whether it's a movie, whether it's 221 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: a business, whatever it is, you know, you have an 222 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to tell everyone, hey, we're not like we've. 223 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: Never been different. 224 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: We all want the same thing, right, especially when we're 225 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: in America. 226 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: Man, I love what you're saying, because it's going to 227 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: be even more difficult as we move forward with the 228 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: algorithms and technology and AI and all. 229 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: That they're gonna make us categories. 230 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: Everything is so categorized, everything is so binary. It's either 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: your this or that. I think that's why it's even 232 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: more important for us that are still are the the 233 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 4: last legs of these legacies to continue to speak our truth, 234 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 4: share our truth, and try to shape culture moving forward. 235 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: You know, we can't stop it, but we can at 236 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: least continue to water the garden because there was a 237 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: very special time. I mean the times that we talk 238 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: about at dinner. You know, I come we come from 239 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: an era of hip hop where it didn't really matter race. 240 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: You were a part of cruise, right, Like if you could, 241 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: if you could be boy, it didn't matter what color 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: res you were. You're nice. You just had to be nice. 243 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,119 Speaker 4: And there's something about that that I want to translate 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: in the right words, in the right expression for for 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 4: the future. You know, I want to still make it. 246 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: I want to make it relatable and use the language 247 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: that you know, the algorithm can pick up on or whatever. 248 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: But there's something about that that I want to continue 249 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: and you're just talking about that, is that you know, 250 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: we're all here together. You know, we spend so much 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: energy separating each other. What if we spent that energy 252 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: like really, you know, investing in each other. Like, imagine 253 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: where we could be. 254 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you did, right. 255 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Nobody everybody really frown on cross pollinating. Right, They're like, Okay, 256 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, you stay your lane. You're living this block, 257 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: they live in that block. But look at what happened 258 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: when you cross polanated. Look at what happened when you 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: took what you knew when you grew up with and 260 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: embraced the culture. 261 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: That you were being raised around. 262 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Right, all of a sudden magic happened, and you are 263 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: not only feeding that community, we're feeding others and welcoming 264 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: other communities to discover the fusion and the gift of 265 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: two cultures coming together in one. 266 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: Truck picking up on that and we're just food. We're 267 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: like the lowest not the lowest thing, but we're like. 268 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: But it's the most powerful cultures. 269 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: Have fusion happened in politics, in storytelling, in business, in 270 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: the wealth gap, you know, in education, in access to 271 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: UH to opportunities. You know, you know you asked me 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: earlier about why do I do these things? You know 273 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: the reason I do them because I'm still out there 274 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: on the streets every day feeding. And when you're out there, 275 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: you're still plugged in and connected. And no matter how 276 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: much we want to believe that the world has changed, 277 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: it hasn't. We could go right now, I could take 278 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: you block by block, city by city for miles and 279 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: miles neighborhoods and schools that don't have Wi Fi, you know, 280 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: that don't have access to nutritional food or fruits or vegetables. 281 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: They can't they can't even get a job, you know, 282 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: because there's no industry around where they're living. You know, 283 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: that don't even have like sports programs or arts program 284 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: that they can funnel their energy into because all those 285 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: things are cut, you know what I mean. And so 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: like we got we got to start investing in each 287 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: other in some way, because, as you say, look at 288 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: the magic that happens when we strip away like all 289 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: of the barriers and we just let who we naturally 290 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: are grow and we we have no idea like how 291 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: much magic there is out there in the world, And 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: I hate to be so passionate about you guys, but like, 293 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: you know, like we don't even know the potential of 294 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: where we could be as humans. 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, are people ever surprised that that you're you're 296 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: still that plugged in, that you're still in the trucks, 297 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: that you're still I'm sure the perception is like, well, 298 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: why are you still on these trucks, Like why aren't 299 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: you and like why haven't you started your gigantic restaurant chain? 300 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Why aren't you there? Why aren't you? 301 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: But like every time I see you, I've been with 302 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: you on your you know, I've seen You've gotten me 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: burritos from your truck before, and I found that really like. 304 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you saw me when I did the pop 305 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: up last day, right Tacos Vida you saw it was 306 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: just like oh. 307 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one man. 308 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: You should have seen him. 309 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: He was like out there, you were, you were in it. 310 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: But like like why, like like for the people who 311 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: wonder like why, and I know you just sort of 312 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: answered it, But like I find that incredibly humbling that 313 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: you're still that you're still like in the trenches where 314 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: where you you clearly could be somewhere else doing other stuff. 315 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: Thank you. I I don't know. I think on one end, 316 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if people are too surprised, because I 317 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: think once they meet me, they know like, yeah, you know, 318 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: like I haven't gone anywhere. But I think a part 319 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: of it is, you know, it's what I love to do. 320 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: You know. 321 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: It's like and I feel tapping into your two hundred 322 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: percent idea. I feel like I can do two hundred 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: percent of things, Like I can still use my brain 324 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: for things and think think about you know, other things, 325 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: or you know, manage projects or be a CEO of something. 326 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: But I could still do that one hundred percent. But 327 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: I could still be on the ground one hundred percent. 328 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: You know, this doesn't take away from that, so that 329 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: that's partly probably why. 330 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: But that's authenticity. 331 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's authenticity speaking at the loudest form. 332 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: H you know, in the speaking of authenticity, I wanted 333 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: to pay it because. 334 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: It's so important. It's very hard. 335 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: To publish a book, Yes, it's very hard. And you 336 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: have absolutely immortalized, you know, your legacy in this cookbook, right, 337 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of really great dishes here 338 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: and I wanted to give you. I don't know if 339 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: you knew this, but our two producers Leo and and 340 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: and Social Death Sophie, they took up on themselves to 341 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: pay a little tribute to you, and they took this 342 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: and they cooked something or they made something from this cookbook. Leo, 343 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: do you mind? Do you want to explain what you 344 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: guys did here? 345 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 4: Good? Yeah, that's a great recipe. Let's see if Leo, yes, 346 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: let's see if my recipes work. 347 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Before we do the test. 348 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Looking forward to the test, tell us a little bit 349 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: about this book and how this came about. 350 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: So it's called The Choy of Cooking. It's a play 351 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: on the joy of cooking. If any of you had 352 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: ever grown up with that book, I was made my 353 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: name rhymes Roy Troy, so as a kid, you can 354 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 4: imagine all the shit I had to deal with. But 355 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: I finally took that and put power into it. And 356 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: the first cookbook that entered my family life was The 357 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 4: Joy of Cooking. And as I was, as me and 358 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: my team were writing this book trying to find the title, 359 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: like I did a deep dive into who I am 360 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: and what legacy I want to leave on this planet, 361 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: Like I don't think it's the end of my physical life, 362 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: right now. But I thought of, like, what if this 363 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: book was still around one hundred years from now, two 364 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: hundred years from now, and someone found it, like at 365 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: the Pasadena flea market or something, and they found it 366 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: digging in a bin, Like I want to have this 367 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: like long life, and it could mark like a timestamp 368 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: of who this person was. 369 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: Impression. 370 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that person who I am is 371 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: I just want to bring joy to people's lives. Man. 372 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: You know, I've I've been around on this planet enough 373 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: to where I've lived through so many different life cycles. 374 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: You know, I had my you know, I was you know, 375 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: I've been angry. You know I've been mad, I've been uh, 376 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 4: down and out. You know, I've been a piece of shit. 377 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: You know, I've been all the things that you go 378 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: through in life. And and I think where I finally 379 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: have landed is uh you know, I just want to 380 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: bring happiness. 381 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: You know. 382 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: That's that's like where I want to do. And that's 383 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 4: what this book's about. Man. It's this books about like 384 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: recipes and stories that bring happiness to someone's life, you know. 385 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, cookbooks hard to write, because any 386 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: books hard to write, because like there there's editors, man, 387 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: those editors, you. 388 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: Know, Construgress like this word better. 389 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like freestyle man. 390 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: So but I'll tell you this though. You what you 391 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: did in the cover. I mean I see, I see 392 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: all the influences that we just talked about here, yeah 393 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: you so all the little pictures here, who's this right here? 394 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: That's me? 395 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: That's it's me, So that's you. 396 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: And then uh and then I see the palm trees 397 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: and is that is that an impollo? 398 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 399 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: Is that actually your Paula? 400 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't mine, but you know, my friends have all 401 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 4: had one. 402 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: I had a Chevy Blazer that was Chevy. 404 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, twelves in the back, speakers in the bag, I 405 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: have fifteen fifteen yeah, Alpine pulled out which yeah, I 406 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 7: had a pioneer, Yeah, I had I was a pioneer, sir, 407 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 7: and vega. 408 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 409 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: And in the back inkis rooms lowered all the way 410 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: to you. 411 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: You have you have children? 412 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one want children. 413 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: Think about what you're leaving to your kids, right, I 414 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: mean your kid is gonna look at this. Yeah, it's 415 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: gonna pass it on. It's gonna pass it on. And 416 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: this is now two versions of your family going down 417 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: down the road. You know, eventually this is who Grandpa was, 418 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 419 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: And books still books still a big deal. It's not 420 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: as a big deal is maybe it used to be, 421 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 4: you know, like growing up in America, like there used 422 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: to be a dream for all creatives of like if 423 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: I could just write a book. Right, it's not the 424 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: same anymore, but still it's still pretty important. 425 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: No, but you're more immortalizing your legacy, motalizing your heritage. 426 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: And you know, you're letting them know that while you. 427 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: Were here you did something. 428 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Man. 429 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that and that's beautiful. So congratulations. 430 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: Make you think about it that way. 431 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: We're we're trying to are gonna try. 432 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna either leave on a high or 433 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: leave on a low. 434 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 4: We're eating with peed chips. 435 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's is I guess it's speaking of 436 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: two hundred percent? 437 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: Is this too? You should. 438 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: Mm hmm? 439 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, Leo, it was good? 440 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: Great? 441 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: Did you you worked on this as well? Yeah? 442 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: How was the recipe pretty easy to follow? I was 443 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: very easy to just stick everything in a blender. Yeah, right, 444 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: all the herbs were it was very interesting and you 445 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: mentioned the. 446 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: Smell there. 447 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I smelled it. 448 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: And in Venezuela there is a similar sauce like that 449 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: cold and please don't judge in their name. It's it 450 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: comes from indigenous sounds or whatever, but it's called Guasa 451 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Kaka's CoA. 452 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Did you ever hear of us of an isueling kind 453 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: of sauce. 454 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: It's a dipping sauce, could be addressing, could be anything 455 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: that you can put it on steak and chickens, or you. 456 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: Can put it on yuka and you can dip the yuka. 457 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: That yeah, especially with the ya. Yes, it's just this consistency. 458 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly. My mom makes it, and uh, you know, I'm. 459 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Obsessed with with food I launched multiple restaurants in my 460 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: life too, so I you know, I went in La. 461 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: We had adults, we had Getesha House, we had the lotch, 462 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: we had all kinds of different stuff in La. So 463 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: I was really obsessed with food. My mom was a 464 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: great cook too. So there was a cuta. So as 465 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: soon as I saw that, I was like, oh, that 466 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: looks like what's a cutga? And it smell and actually 467 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: has an interesting same consistency. This has a little bit 468 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: of a sweet finish. 469 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: Rights a little. 470 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 4: Sweet from the rice vinegar, I believe. 471 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 8: And then yeah, and then the man, yeah, great job, 472 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 8: and you yeah, you got the emotion correct. 473 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: So so Roy you we have these recipes, you have 474 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: the book, like you have the trucks, you have all that, 475 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: but you're you're also expanding. I mean, you know, we 476 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: obviously saw you in Chef, which was awesome. 477 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. I try to do what you all do. 478 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: Man, let's go. 479 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: The only problem is I can't remember shit, you know 480 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: when I'm the worst at auditions too. I'm great at 481 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: playing myself, but every time they asked me to play 482 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: someone else, Oh no. 483 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: No, How did it finally start to transition into into 484 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: movies into television? Was was Chef the first sort of 485 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: foray into into uh into movies and just the. 486 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: First big one. But I think you know, on one level, 487 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: like as creatives, it's really easy when you see another 488 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: creative or when you connect you know, across the table, 489 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: doesn't matter whether it's music or food or or acting 490 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: or whatever. Like you you share something and you can 491 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: like get to shorthand right away. Right. So there's that 492 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: one thing. But the true bridge was that kogie from 493 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: the from the early days after the whole kind of 494 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: first initial phenomenon took off. We started really getting hired 495 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: a lot to feed film sets because the creatives picked 496 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: up on it first, and so within our first year 497 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 4: at the end of us so the first year was 498 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 4: really just pounding the pavement, being on the streets, going 499 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: neighborhood and the neighborhood blocked the box. But then as 500 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: as that year started to come to an end, then 501 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 4: people started to understand like who we really were, and 502 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: then we got our shit together a little bit and 503 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: we had we put up an email. We had no 504 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: email like that email like, you know, to contact us. 505 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: We were just out there, man, we didn't have no plan, 506 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: you know. And then finally we got an email up. 507 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: As soon as we put the email up, you know, 508 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: people from Radford Studios, from Paramount, from Warner Brothers, from 509 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: everywhere being like, oh dude, like, you know, can we 510 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: hire you for a rap party? Can we hire you 511 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: to feed our crew? You know, we wanted to do 512 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: a surprise, So we started showing up to film sets, 513 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: the movie sets really really early. And then there were 514 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: a lot of people within the industry that were really 515 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: early on Koge too, and one was Gwyneth Paltrow. So 516 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 4: Gwyneth hired us for Iron Man two's rap party. So 517 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: that was like the first one of the first big 518 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: ones that we did. So this is the story. So 519 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: what happened was this was one of our like this 520 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 4: is in the second year, early part of the second 521 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: year coche. We didn't know anything. We know our head 522 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: from our asshole. And then we went to the rap party. 523 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: But it was in Malibu, up on this hill, and 524 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 4: our truck is an old ass truck. And then we 525 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: went up this driveway but we got stuck there. So 526 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: we served the whole party and everyone loved it, licking 527 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: their fingers everything. But then as we said bye, you know, 528 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: and we were backing up, the truck didn't move. So 529 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: we're there all night. And then so we got to 530 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: know everybody and everything. Everyone remember Kogie. And then later 531 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 4: when John was in final kind of like pre production 532 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: for his film Chef, he remembered our truck, he remembered us, 533 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: and he found me. He reached out to my team 534 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 4: and found me and uh hired me to come in 535 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: to you know, see if I could just be a consultant. 536 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: So I was supposed to be initially kind of like 537 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 4: if you were doing a boxing movie. I was just 538 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 4: supposed to come in for like two weeks and just 539 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: teach him, you know, like just to. 540 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Like as a tech. 541 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: I was just a technical consultant. But from day one, 542 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 4: John and I just hit it off. Yeah, I mean, like, 543 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: you know, shout out to John, that's my brother. You know, 544 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: like we just we just hit it off from day one, 545 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: and then we forgot about just being like the dudes 546 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: that we are, Like, we just forgot about why the 547 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: hell we even were supposed to be together. We just 548 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: started spending every day together, you know, we were dose 549 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: of eagles, you know. And uh, and then that just 550 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: that just naturally moved into I brought him into because 551 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: he was studying to be a chef. So I was, yeah, 552 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: because the movie he was playing a chef he was. 553 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: I know that, but I'm in real life he was 554 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: studying No. 555 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 4: No, he was studying so the movie. So what I 556 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: did was, because we hit it off from day one, 557 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: I pulled him into my world. I just like started 558 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: bringing him to the inside inside world of being a 559 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 4: chef running a kitchen, and he brought me into his world. 560 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: And it just felt so natural for the both of us. 561 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: You know, like I had never been that close to 562 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: a camera before. I'd never. 563 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: You know, you've never seeing the same thing and you know, 564 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: laid out twenty five times. 565 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 4: But you know, your guys' world is very similar to 566 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: the cooking world in the sense that there is a 567 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: level of brigade, you know, to start from pa to crib, 568 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: you know, and you go up and you don't necessarily 569 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: you know, you have to pay your dues to get 570 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: all the way up to the camera, you know, or 571 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 4: get up to give direction to something. You know, same 572 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: thing in the kitchen you're starting peeling potatoes and cutting chives. 573 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: You're not saucing until you know, a few years in. 574 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: But John let me see every level of the of 575 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: the industry, and I felt very natural with every every 576 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: layer of it, and and that just led to you know, 577 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: then then it was like the people I would meet 578 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: along the way, you know, within your guys on set, 579 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: they're all like, yeah, you know your kogie, I have 580 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: kogi yesterday, this is that, and so everyone was very familiar. 581 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: So that world was very natural for me. And then 582 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: and then from that, you know, like people just asked 583 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: me to be in stuff, so then I got asked 584 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: to be in Gilmore Girls. Right, I did Gilmore Girls. 585 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: I got my SAG card because. 586 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: They always. 587 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the Gilmore Girls, you got me as 588 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: an actor. Uh. And then uh I did some other 589 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: cameos here and there. You know, It's always been fun. 590 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 3: But but but even but even on like behind it, 591 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: like like even this book right like that that that 592 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: obviously was sort of the the doorway for the more 593 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: commercial version of of Roy Troy right like and and 594 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: and you haven't you started like restaurants and do you 595 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: have other stuff? 596 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, I have a restaurant in Las Vegas. I 597 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: always try to bounce. I think we touched on it earlier. 598 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 4: It's like every time I get into an endeavor that 599 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: maybe feels bigger or mainstream or whatever, I always try 600 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: to balance it maybe with something that is like involved 601 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: in like the social justice of something. So like even 602 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: even in entertainment, I do the same. You know, if 603 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: I have a Netflix show, you know I've been involved. 604 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: I cooked on you know, uh, you know Megan the 605 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: Duchess of you know, where is she the Duchess of Sussex? Yeah? 606 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: Sorry man, but yeah, the you know, I'm on a 607 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: Netflix show. But then I do public television, you know, 608 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: and try to do a show based around, uh, the 609 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: inequities of access to food. So every time I'm doing 610 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: something maybe mainstream entertainment, I try to balance it with 611 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 4: underground you know. I just kind of you know, it's 612 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: like open mic. And then you know, doing like a 613 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: big comedy special. Like it's like, you know, comedians do 614 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: it all the time too, right, It's kind of like 615 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: how you stay sharp and connected, you know, like all 616 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: the comedians you see doing arenas are you know, popping 617 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: up at the comedy store late night on Thursday, you know, 618 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: And it's just like, I don't know, it's just the 619 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: way that I do things. 620 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: So so, so tell us about the restaurants in Vegas. Uh. 621 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have two restaurants in Vegas. One that's called 622 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 4: Best Friend, you know, and that restaurant is kind of 623 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: like it's kind of like me bringing Los Angeles to Vegas. 624 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 4: So it's like pulling people into like that specific part 625 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 4: of Korea Town and South Central and East LA that 626 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 4: we've been talking about, and we created kind of like 627 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: a world like in Vegas with that and you walk 628 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: through this portal and it takes you into Los Angeles 629 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: through the fields, the sounds, the music, the design, and 630 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: the food, and then the show and the movie. Chef 631 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: we built the truck, so that movie is built around 632 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: a food truck that serves kubanos. So you know we 633 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: turned that truck. Yeah, is the chef of that truck 634 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: and we turned that truck into a restaurant in Vegas. 635 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: So cool. 636 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible, man. We look, we are so incredibly 637 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: grateful to you know, to call you an ally, to 638 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: call your friend, and it's incredibly inspiring for all of 639 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: us to continue to hear these Brazilian stories that you know, 640 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: define who we are, not only as immigrants, spread the 641 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: humanity that we actually experienced with one another. I know 642 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: that the whole season we'll be talking about you coming on, 643 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: so we we definitely you know, you've been in like 644 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: the top of the. 645 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: Superstars in this. 646 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: But really, really he's another one who we. 647 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: Got to get John. Where are you at? Come on, John, 648 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: let's go we do a partner piece. 649 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: But John John winsa a moment from being available, and 650 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Christopher Nolan called him and 651 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: he's like. 652 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, there's this little movie co. 653 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah no, but but you know, John's heart is here. 654 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: But that's the most important. But we're so excited. Thank you. 655 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate it so much. 656 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: And everybody get get his book and watch his movies 657 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: and and the Gilmore Girls spot too, because that's gonna 658 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: be a really. 659 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: Great mom is crazy the fan base. I love you all, crazy, dude. 660 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Freddie Rodriguez and I'm Wilmaldama and I 661 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: think you were watching or listening Amigos. Uh everywhere you 662 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: got your podcasts. 663 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: Is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through 664 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: That podcast Network. 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