Speaker 1: Ring, ring, ringing.
Speaker 2: Five rings, Two guys say, in five.
Speaker 3: Rings, you know Arina Grande has a song called seven Rings,
Speaker 3: but five is just in the goldilocks.
Speaker 1: Zone for me. Absolutely, just rights just right. Seven's too much.
Speaker 2: That's too much, too much Arianna your opulent lifestyle. But
Speaker 2: you know what else is opulent The Olympics. And that's
Speaker 2: really what we're here to celebrate. On Two guys, five Rings,
Speaker 2: the podcast that talks Olympics. I'm Matt Rogers, that's my name.
Speaker 3: And I'm Bow and Yang and we're the two guys,
Speaker 3: wouldn't you say passing back and forth the torch. That
Speaker 3: is conversation. That is how podcasts do work.
Speaker 2: And episode six of this podcast is going to talk
Speaker 2: all about the Olympic flame and torch.
Speaker 3: Okay, two separate things, and one thing needs the other
Speaker 3: in order to I didn't.
Speaker 2: Actually know that the carrying of the torch around the
Speaker 2: world was real. Oh yeah, and then you really do
Speaker 2: understand that this is the spirit stick, but for real,
Speaker 2: like if this Olympic flame were to be extinguished or
Speaker 2: hit the ground like this would be true chaos and
Speaker 2: Olympic fashion.
Speaker 3: I think it's like world building. I know we're using
Speaker 3: that term a little bit too much now, but there's
Speaker 3: a world building there. It makes you go, oh the flame.
Speaker 3: It's like very like Game of Thrones when.
Speaker 2: You say, absolutely well, it symbolizes the coming of the
Speaker 2: games and spreading peace and friendship along the route. So
Speaker 2: it's less Game of Thrones in that that was more
Speaker 2: like competition for supremacy and this is more like love
Speaker 2: and peace, but definitely fire, certainly, that's what the Olympics
Speaker 2: and Game of Thrones haven't the common.
Speaker 3: For certain for certain Now, have you ever carried a
Speaker 3: torch for someone?
Speaker 2: Matt?
Speaker 4: Oh, God, haven't I haven't I. We all have a
Speaker 4: story of, you know, the time when we just have
Speaker 4: feelings and couldn't find a where to put them. I
Speaker 4: remember I was in high school, you see, and I
Speaker 4: carried a torch for my best friend, and sometimes, you know,
Speaker 4: I would go hang out with him and his girlfriend
Speaker 4: and I would sit on an AOL Instant Messenger while
Speaker 4: they hooked up behind me in his bed, and I
Speaker 4: would be in the room and I'd be on AOL
Speaker 4: Instant Messengers or talking to my friends, hanging out with
Speaker 4: my friends. And one day I said to them, Hey,
Speaker 4: do you guys ever not want me to be around,
Speaker 4: and they go, no, we love hanging out with you.
Speaker 2: Then you make us laugh. I said, okay, So I
Speaker 2: continued to hang out with them. Mothery sort of hooked
Speaker 2: up in the room with me in it, and I
Speaker 2: would just not turn around. So, yeah, I've carried torches before.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I was gonna get be like backup, backup.
Speaker 3: So they would be like macing on each other while
Speaker 3: you were on the computer.
Speaker 2: Like imagine me. I would be on the computer, I
Speaker 2: think when I was like fifteen, and I would be
Speaker 2: on the computer sort of on aim, just like talking
Speaker 2: to my friends, like trying to make plans for the
Speaker 2: weekend or later, and they would be behind me, like
Speaker 2: messing around. Fully well that and I always was like,
Speaker 2: I wonder how far it's going, But I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that would be uncool for me to ask, as if
Speaker 2: it wasn't uncool for me to be there in the
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 1: Not uncool.
Speaker 3: Maybe they liked to be watched.
Speaker 2: They want they liked how I was a little voyeur,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't a danger of me being able to
Speaker 2: turn around.
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: I rarely even think about that. How weird that was
Speaker 2: but that was a thing that probably happened between five
Speaker 2: and six times. Is I would just sit there and
Speaker 2: they would hook up behind me, and then I was like,
Speaker 2: did you guys ever know want me to come? And
Speaker 2: the excuse was like no, no, no, you gotta be there. Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm a kink.
Speaker 3: You are a kink and you will never be shamed.
Speaker 2: You can't be ashamed for wanting me president when you
Speaker 2: guys hook up, and by you guys, I'm talking to
Speaker 2: you the listener when if you ever want to hook
Speaker 2: up and have me just around, I'm so used to it.
Speaker 3: It's not that you like to watch, it's more it's
Speaker 3: more for them. It's for their kink. It's not a
Speaker 3: kink for you, it's a kink for them.
Speaker 2: Have you ever carried a torch?
Speaker 3: I was going to say that, I've literally said the
Speaker 3: words I think I've been carrying a torch for you
Speaker 3: for too long. And then that was my way of
Speaker 3: sort of like and of like release of dropping the
Speaker 3: torch as it were, of being like, I can't do
Speaker 3: this anymore, I can't do this kind of dramatically. I
Speaker 3: wish people could see the release. We're sort of dramatically
Speaker 3: releasing our torches. I really I encourage all of you
Speaker 3: to tell the person you've carried a torch for to
Speaker 3: say the words, I've carried a torch for you, and
Speaker 3: it's time for me to drop.
Speaker 1: It because it's of some kind.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean. We are recording this after
Speaker 3: the Culture Awards, where in which we gave Mandy Moore
Speaker 3: a Lifetime of Culture Award, and one of the clips
Speaker 3: that I forgot about that I is now constantly playing
Speaker 3: in my head as her and want to remember telling
Speaker 3: Shane West, I.
Speaker 1: Do not need a reason to be angry with God.
Speaker 2: I do not need a reason to be angry with God.
Speaker 2: Is an amazing line, and she delivered it. I do
Speaker 2: not need a reason.
Speaker 5: To be angry with God.
Speaker 1: Incredible.
Speaker 2: The key to acting is to barely allow noise to
Speaker 2: come out while you're talking. That's the key to emotional actors.
Speaker 2: To be quiet, literally.
Speaker 5: Barely give anything. You can understand everything feeling, even if
Speaker 5: they don't make us up.
Speaker 1: You are so good.
Speaker 2: I'm comply, girl. No, you are the dramatic genom. No.
Speaker 2: Watch Fire Island now. If you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 2: turn it off. Watch Fire Island net watch me shed.
Speaker 3: A tear to a perfume genius song to a perfume
Speaker 3: genius needle drop.
Speaker 2: You know who would be so happy? Greg Luganis. I
Speaker 2: met Greg Luganis saw Fire Island in my day.
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows the best thing.
Speaker 2: It has bone Yang, it has gaze and has Fire Island,
Speaker 2: It has water, it has everything that everyone loves. I
Speaker 2: just know he watches us and out with his partner
Speaker 2: and says I love him. I think he's so funny.
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 3: I can't be sure.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to find out. Maybe I'm placing the
Speaker 2: breadcrumbs for Greg Luguinis to come on the podcast grag.
Speaker 1: We would love to have you.
Speaker 3: We would love to meet gregor invited Invite.
Speaker 2: Nashley once said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how did that song end? It was Bennette
Speaker 3: you'll r s V P.
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, yeah, were you a Mariicante?
Speaker 3: Nashley fam well through my sister and she got all
Speaker 3: the Mary Kate national videos from the library.
Speaker 2: Chelsea also liked it.
Speaker 3: My sister, Oh my god, My sister bought the Sister
Speaker 3: of the Traveling Pants and I stole it from her shelf.
Speaker 3: And read it in my own bed and then hid
Speaker 3: it under the bed because they didn't want anyone to
Speaker 3: find out that I was reading a girl book. Did
Speaker 3: she ever find it? I think she did good, But
Speaker 3: I like want I could just all the girls at
Speaker 3: school were reading it and loving it, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I really want to read that.
Speaker 1: I know. This is before the movie came out.
Speaker 2: That's how I was with the show One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3: It was like a closet thing for you because like, don't.
Speaker 2: Remember when the OC was out and everyone liked the OC,
Speaker 2: but not only everyone in high school.
Speaker 1: No boys.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got away with watching the OC
Speaker 2: for sure. I don't know what it was about. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was like cool California culture, but One Tree Hill
Speaker 2: there was something like girls only about it.
Speaker 3: Chad Michael Mary was only for girls.
Speaker 2: It was only for girls. Like you couldn't watch Chad
Speaker 2: Michael Murray as a boy that age and be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I like to show because I'm a fan of his acting.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you loved his appetizer plate size nipples
Speaker 2: and he lit off a fire alarm and you're growing
Speaker 2: and speaking of fire, the symbolic flame. Let's just chat
Speaker 2: about the Olympic torch and the flame just a little bit, okay.
Speaker 2: The first time a symbolic flame made its appearance at
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games was for the nineteen twenty eight Amsterdam Games.
Speaker 2: The main purpose of this fire, placed in a large
Speaker 2: bowl on top of a slender tower named the Marathon
Speaker 2: Tower overlooking the Olympic Stadium, was to indicate for miles
Speaker 2: around where in Amsterdam the Olympic Games were being held.
Speaker 2: A similar flame appeared once more in Los Angeles four
Speaker 2: years later, this time at the top of the gateway
Speaker 2: to the Olympic Stadium. So fire is life. It's very survivor,
Speaker 2: it's very desperate span life in this game, fire is
Speaker 2: your life. In this instance, fire is where the Olympics happened.
Speaker 2: But you get it. The fire, if you see it
Speaker 2: shining tall, shining bright, you know you had that way
Speaker 2: for excellence and excitement.
Speaker 3: When they cut to the torch a flame during the games,
Speaker 3: you know, like you'll be watching beach volleyball and then
Speaker 3: they will cut to in broad daylight the stadium. That
Speaker 3: makes me go, this is once again about the human spirit,
Speaker 3: about human accomplishment, and that's what the Olympics are about Oh,
Speaker 3: I could relish this forever.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Here's another factoid, Okay. The nineteen thirty six Berlin Games
Speaker 3: were the first in which an Olympic torch relay was used.
Speaker 3: Chief organizer of the Games proposed the idea two years
Speaker 3: earlier to link antiquity and modernity. The original relay took
Speaker 3: twelve days and passed through seven countries Greece, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria,
Speaker 3: Czechoslovakia and Germany. A lot of pop stars come from
Speaker 3: that area. I would say three thousand and seventy five
Speaker 3: kilometer relay was completed solely by runners in Yugoslavia over
Speaker 3: approximately twenty five kilometers. However, certain torches showed signs of
Speaker 3: weakness and threat to go out before the end of
Speaker 3: the expected combustion duration. Thus, in order not to take
Speaker 3: any risks, the torch bearers were taken to the next
Speaker 3: stage more quickly by car shooters. So this is once
Speaker 3: again linking ancient times to the modern.
Speaker 1: Era of the Olympics.
Speaker 3: The Olympic flame for Berlin was lit with the aid
Speaker 3: of a parabolic mirror reflecting the sun's rains, which is
Speaker 3: a time honored method that guarantees the purity of the flame.
Speaker 3: The lighting of the flame takes place in front of
Speaker 3: the ruins of the Temple of Hera and Olympia, Greece
Speaker 3: every Olympics. I believe now the dark origins of the
Speaker 3: relay has to do with Nazi propaganda. As we said,
Speaker 3: this was in the nineteen thirty six Berlin Games.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, guys, but it's sorry, just true.
Speaker 2: It's just true, y'all.
Speaker 3: The Nazis didn't invent fire. No, it's fine, Okay. Fire
Speaker 3: is further for everybody.
Speaker 2: They use the original torch relay for propaganda purposes. The
Speaker 2: Olympic Torch relay now is used to signal the Olympic
Speaker 2: Game are coming into spread a message of peace and
Speaker 2: friendship along the route. So decidedly at nastic stuff. Now
Speaker 2: you don't have to be worried. Whenever you see the flame,
Speaker 2: be in a past. Okay.
Speaker 3: When you look at the flame, you should think Central Perk.
Speaker 3: You should think Ross, Rachel, Phoebe Chandler, Monica and Joey.
Speaker 3: You should think friendship. You should think harm of national harmony.
Speaker 3: You should think at world peace. You should think of
Speaker 3: mister congeniality, the film light slapstick, Light slapstick, light fare overall,
Speaker 3: but for serious reasons, which is an occasion to bring
Speaker 3: the countries of the world together in the name of sportsmanship.
Speaker 3: You think the Goblet of Fire was inspired by the
Speaker 3: Olympic torch?
Speaker 2: I do you know? Because it never goes out? Right?
Speaker 2: Is that the part of the deal with the Goblet
Speaker 2: of Fire? I don't know, the whole sports and fire thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course it was, of course.
Speaker 3: The Olympic, the Triwizard tournament, that is the Olympics.
Speaker 2: I ask if it never goes out because our Olympic flame,
Speaker 2: the acrid fire, is never extinguished in the event of
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 1: Did you know this?
Speaker 2: Several emergency backup flames exist, but they are kept secret
Speaker 2: as the protocol also dictates the flame can only be
Speaker 2: rekindled with an emanation of the original flame, so this
Speaker 2: is serious. When it is not being carried by an
Speaker 2: Olympic torch, the flame is sheltered and especially modified security
Speaker 2: lamp similar to a miner's lamp. Every eight hours, the
Speaker 2: lantern is filled with liquid kerosene and the wick is
Speaker 2: also changed about every two weeks, and at nighttime, the
Speaker 2: flame is kept in a special cauldron. So this is
Speaker 2: the fire. When you see the Olympic fire, just know
Speaker 2: that's the doll.
Speaker 3: Is it the same flame as nineteen twenty eight Amsterdam Games?
Speaker 2: That would be completely insane.
Speaker 3: Do you think we'll never know?
Speaker 2: We'll never know. I think it's one of the those
Speaker 2: things we can ever know. And also, by the way
Speaker 2: it kind of says here like if there's if something
Speaker 2: happens like low key, that there's a backup flame, it exists.
Speaker 3: I'm saying like the continuity of the flame is a
Speaker 3: big part of the flame's lore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but lie, people lie all the time, going this
Speaker 2: is Hollywood, it's smoked, emarrass you though the Olympics. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's a show.
Speaker 3: This is Hollywood. It's we're in Paris, Mama.
Speaker 2: To tell the show peak behind the curtain.
Speaker 3: This is all entertainment earlier, so confusing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes talk about the use of technology when it comes
Speaker 2: to the torch, Well.
Speaker 3: I'll say that it's integral. As the torch must be
Speaker 3: able to stand up to difficult weather conditions, including wind, rain,
Speaker 3: extreme temperatures, and snow. It must also be capable of
Speaker 3: burning longer than the amount of time anticipated for each
Speaker 3: leg of the relay. In the event of problems along
Speaker 3: the route, they have really thought through every scenario. The
Speaker 3: first torch relay, German manufacturer Krupp, created a steel cloud
Speaker 3: torch featuring a magnesium burning all that was designed to
Speaker 3: stay lit regardless of weather conditions. Over the years, many
Speaker 3: other products such as gunpowder, resin and olive oil have
Speaker 3: been used to feel the Olympic flame. These days we're
Speaker 3: talking gas cartridges in the body of the torch. That
Speaker 3: is usually the most popular thing. Interestingly, the type of
Speaker 3: gas can influence both the intensity of the flame as
Speaker 3: well the color from white to yellowy red now white.
Speaker 3: A white flame is, as we know, the hottest color.
Speaker 2: Well, isn't the blue the hottest flame?
Speaker 1: Blue is the warmest color. But white.
Speaker 3: You know when someone says white hot, that means it's
Speaker 3: the hottest kind of hot.
Speaker 2: WHOA Can I ask you what your favorite type of
Speaker 2: fire is? We've never had this conversation, like what is
Speaker 2: your favorite fire?
Speaker 1: To see?
Speaker 3: When I'm at the Korean barbecue restaurant and I see
Speaker 3: the blue flame lighting my table, I go, that is
Speaker 3: that is? I'm thinking of hades. I'm thinking of James
Speaker 3: wood goods as hades.
Speaker 2: Great performance, bad Man, bad.
Speaker 3: Man, a great performance. I'm thinking just like Sleigh color,
Speaker 3: what about you?
Speaker 2: I think blue flame is amazing. I'm very attracted to
Speaker 2: the phrase white hot. But you know when I go
Speaker 2: to the club, I like to hear these club classics
Speaker 2: and for me, fire is yellow, fire is yellow, like
Speaker 2: it just is.
Speaker 3: M Yeah in the movies, fire is yellow and red.
Speaker 3: I feel the sun is yellow. It's really a goodness
Speaker 3: gracious a great ball of fire.
Speaker 2: By the way, justice for one of the greatest pop
Speaker 2: songs of all time. Goodness, gracious, great balls of fire.
Speaker 2: I am telling you listen to it again. It goes off.
Speaker 2: That is such a goodness mollfire. Who ever wrote that
Speaker 2: the Greg luganis of songwriting, the greatest of all time?
Speaker 2: And gay. I just went to a show and someone saying, goodness, gracious,
Speaker 2: grape balls of Fire, and I was like, hold on
Speaker 2: a second. This is a hit and a half. It
Speaker 2: sounds like Chapel Roone.
Speaker 3: It sounds like Chaperone.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, goodness, gracious, grape balls Bowen. I'm telling you listen
Speaker 2: to it. After we record this, you'll listen to it
Speaker 2: three more times. Right after you will be in you
Speaker 2: love the way you look at you to know me,
Speaker 2: you don't know me. Second time you said this, I
Speaker 2: do know you. I know you well. So you know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the flame and the great balls of fire
Speaker 2: and et cetera, as it relates to the Olympics, there
Speaker 2: have been some mishaps. There have been some flame and
Speaker 2: cauldron mishaps. Despite the safeguards taken to prevent the flame
Speaker 2: from being extinguished, it has happened. In nineteen seventy six
Speaker 2: during the Montreal Games, an unexpected violent thunderstorm the worst
Speaker 2: douse the flame at the Olympic Stadium. No eventure taking
Speaker 2: place at the time. The only people on site were workers.
Speaker 2: One of them rushed up the steps of the platform
Speaker 2: holding the Olympic cauldron, using a cigarette lighter to light
Speaker 2: some pieces of newspaper and the cauldron. When the Olympic
Speaker 2: officials learned to the situation, the makeshift flame was extinguished
Speaker 2: because it was you know, terrible, terrible flame. Fake fire imposter,
Speaker 2: A light and the back of torches were used to
Speaker 2: relight the flame. A similar incident occurred before the twenty
Speaker 2: fourteen Winter Olympics in Sochi in Russia, with a security
Speaker 2: officer reportedly re lighting the flame with a lighter after
Speaker 2: it had gone out at the Kremlin in Moscow. This
Speaker 2: is just these people are. They're trying their best, like
Speaker 2: they don't want anyone to know that it was on
Speaker 2: their watch that it went out, so they whipped the
Speaker 2: lighter out.
Speaker 3: But that's listen, there are safeguards in place for when
Speaker 3: that exact scenario happens. Please, if you're handling the Olympic
Speaker 3: flame in the future, don't use your little, big lighter.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: The torch deserves the real flame, and there are backup
Speaker 3: torches and flames in place and available. Bick, please, big please.
Speaker 2: Faulty burners have caused flameouts too, but beyond weather related
Speaker 2: and mechanical issues, there are some instances cause purposely it
Speaker 2: just insane by individuals seeking to maic political or social statements.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and eight, protesters decrying China's history of
Speaker 2: human rights abuses managed to extinguish the flame multiple times.
Speaker 3: Slay they That is a movie I want to see, Yeah, extinguishers, Extinguishers?
Speaker 3: Should that be our film? Yes, extinguishers.
Speaker 2: It's about two gays who want to put out the
Speaker 2: fire of the Olympic torch just cause, for attention.
Speaker 3: For attention and likes.
Speaker 2: They do it for the likes. They do it for
Speaker 2: the shares. They did it for the reels.
Speaker 3: This is kind of slay. At the twenty ten Vancouver
Speaker 3: Winter Games, they had four pillars kind of meaning up
Speaker 3: towards the center to light the torch. One of the
Speaker 3: pillars failed to light from the stadium floor. The trap
Speaker 3: door was faulty and froze prior to the cauldron lightning,
Speaker 3: even though it had worked fine early in the ceremony.
Speaker 3: This is why, let's not get too stunty with the
Speaker 3: flame lighting. Okay, let's just have it be you light
Speaker 3: the fuse or whatever, and it travels all the way
Speaker 3: up and then it lands in the bowl. That's all
Speaker 3: we want to see. Let's not get too innovative with fire,
Speaker 3: is all we're saying.
Speaker 2: Keep it simple.
Speaker 3: Keep it simple, because if you want to get all
Speaker 3: stunty with fire, you're gonna be sorry for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: Well, one mishap had lasting implications bo in since nineteen twenty,
Speaker 2: so this has been a thing for years and years
Speaker 2: and years. Since nineteen twenty, doves had been released at
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games opening ceremonies to symbolize world peace. So
Speaker 2: for the nineteen eighty eight Soul Games, the one where
Speaker 2: Luganis Slade, birds had been trained for a year in
Speaker 2: preparation of the event. They were supposed to fly around
Speaker 2: the stadium in circles until they reached the rim, and
Speaker 2: then fly off in five different directions. Unfortunately, of the
Speaker 2: birds landed on the Olympic cauldron as it was being lit.
Speaker 2: Although the call for world peace remains a part of
Speaker 2: the opening ceremony, the public outcry from the nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: eight Soul Games led to the permanent replacement of live
Speaker 2: birds with inanimate objects or human actors. And then we
Speaker 2: literally do have a picture here in this document of
Speaker 2: what looks to.
Speaker 3: Be all these doves perched on the rim of the
Speaker 3: bowl and one unfortunately flying right into the flame, about
Speaker 3: to get toasted and roasted. Bye sister, By sister, you
Speaker 3: had one job. You can train birds as much as
Speaker 3: you want. There's still going to be There's a reason
Speaker 3: why they call it bird brain very small. Hey, I
Speaker 3: don't like saying it. As a new birdwatching enthusiast, I
Speaker 3: really don't like seeing a bird die.
Speaker 2: Certainly not you want to see a bird fly.
Speaker 3: I want to see a bird fly. And these will
Speaker 3: always be a symbol of peace. This is two bad
Speaker 3: things coming together, trying to manipulate fire and trying to
Speaker 3: manipulate animals. Yeah, just don't ever ever have the two
Speaker 3: converge into one thing.
Speaker 2: Just everyone, just keep the fire away from the birds.
Speaker 2: Please please wait. Speaking of bird watching, did I tell
Speaker 2: you I just saw a bald eagle in person?
Speaker 1: I sent you the video.
Speaker 3: I must not have watched it yet, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I sent you a lot of videos from my vacation.
Speaker 3: They're scary birds, aren't they. They are huge, the bald eagles.
Speaker 3: They're majestic, but they're scary up close. Well did you
Speaker 3: hear that the bald eagle population has actually skyrocket as
Speaker 3: of wait, skyrocketed. Rather, there are tiktoks out there of
Speaker 3: these bald eagles. Hordes of bald eagles just like munching
Speaker 3: on trash at landfills. And I'm like, oh, y'all are
Speaker 3: ruining the image.
Speaker 2: I mean, the America eat in trash? Yeah, absolute, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Can I say something? They're still birds, Like
Speaker 2: you can look at a bald eagle and think dignified.
Speaker 2: The bitch is eating trash, okay at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. But apparently, yeah, the population of bald eagles
Speaker 2: is up, up, up, because they made certain pesticides that
Speaker 2: were killing the birds illegal, so that's the reason why.
Speaker 2: But they're still quite endangered. But you know, if you
Speaker 2: see a whole bunch of bald eagles showering down on
Speaker 2: your trash, just tuesday, Just Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Let's talk through some memorable moments of lighting in the cauldron.
Speaker 3: We have Barcelona ninety two. Antonio Rabilio, Spanish Paralympic archer
Speaker 3: lit the cauldron for the ninety two Games by shooting
Speaker 3: a flaming arrow over the cauldron and knighting the gas.
Speaker 3: Catinus Everdeen found not even born yet, so Catinus of him,
Speaker 3: had she been born, had she been born? Two thousand
Speaker 3: Sydney Games. Track and field superstar Aborigine Australian Kathy Freeman,
Speaker 3: wearing a white bodysuit, stepped into a pool of water
Speaker 3: and touched the torch to the cauldron. With the water,
Speaker 3: a ring a fired circle tar cauldron rose from the
Speaker 3: water as sending to the top of the stadium. I
Speaker 3: remember this. I was but a child of nine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I went, wow, that was cool.
Speaker 2: That was really cool. That was definitely one of the
Speaker 2: fire moments I remember the most. Like that was pretty epic.
Speaker 2: Anytime water is on fire, To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of gagged.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the only exception that we are throwing
Speaker 3: out there when dealing with fire, they're better be more
Speaker 3: water than fire involved.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, and this was.
Speaker 3: Definitely the case. It's very Poseidon's Adventure, very what else
Speaker 3: like free Willy, Free Willy. Also fantasmic. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean you can't talk about fire and water together
Speaker 2: without talking about fantasmic and really all the Water World
Speaker 2: show at Universal Studios Hollywood. Have I ever taken you
Speaker 2: to that?
Speaker 1: I think you have.
Speaker 2: It's pretty fabulous. It's pretty spectacular, a lot of high
Speaker 2: optane energy. It's really really it's stunt driven and there's fire.
Speaker 1: On the water for sure.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight, I remember this Beijing Games decorated
Speaker 3: Olympic gymnast leaning lifted into the air on strings, very
Speaker 3: crouching tiger, very Wusha film style.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: He then flew ran a lap atop of the rim
Speaker 3: of the stadium before lighting the cauldron, and then that
Speaker 3: itself traveled throm and lit the cauldron that was perched
Speaker 3: on I'm going to say the word rim one more
Speaker 3: time on the rim of the stadium. Leaning is sort
Speaker 3: of like the Michael Jordan of China. He has his
Speaker 3: own very popular clothing line. He's sort of like the
Speaker 3: symbolic Chinese athlete who was able to parlay that into
Speaker 3: a huge thriving apparel business.
Speaker 2: Go off.
Speaker 3: So we celebrate Leaning go off, Sir.
Speaker 2: The ninety ninety six Atlanta Games, the greatest Muhammad Ali
Speaker 2: gets the honor of lighting the cauldron. That was a
Speaker 2: moment in time. And you know, of course we've got
Speaker 2: our key figures from the upcoming twenty twenty four Paris
Speaker 2: Games because you know, we have to always bring it
Speaker 2: back to Paris.
Speaker 1: We always have to bring it back to Paris.
Speaker 2: The flame arrived in France via boat across the Mediterranean
Speaker 2: Sea from Greece on May eighth.
Speaker 3: The relay will span sixty eight days only on French territory.
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of she keep it in the borders.
Speaker 2: Keep it within borders, keep it very French.
Speaker 3: Sixty five territories involved, including six overseas Territory, Guadaloupe, French Guyana, Martinique,
Speaker 3: French Polynesia, New Caledonia, and the Island of Reunion.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. The relay will go more through more than four
Speaker 2: hundred cities. So are they going to get like all
Speaker 2: of France's best to like carry this? Like, are we
Speaker 2: gonna get some celebrity sightings.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get Charlotte Gainsborg, We're gonna get Mari Uncle Tillard,
Speaker 3: We're gonna get Natalie Portman's children who grew up.
Speaker 2: In Paris, Benjamin Milpier, ex husband, ex husband, you know
Speaker 2: they met doing Black Swan. That's right, that's just the
Speaker 2: Natalie Portman history. I'm made of that stuff. I'm just
Speaker 2: a peek behind the curtain. For all the Olympics facts.
Speaker 2: We need the Google doc that we use. But if
Speaker 2: you ask, like, what's the name of Natalie Portman's ex
Speaker 2: husband who she has French kids with, Benjamin miller Pier
Speaker 2: and they met during Black Swan, there you go, Natalie Hirschlog. Wow,
Speaker 2: Natalie Hirschlog, that is her real last name. You know,
Speaker 2: I saw her once in a CVS tiny.
Speaker 3: I saw her once smoking a cigarette outside of a
Speaker 3: Broadway theater tiny.
Speaker 2: Were you seeing the same show as her?
Speaker 3: No, she I think she was like in rehearsals and
Speaker 3: she was like out like this was like my first
Speaker 3: year in New York. This is like two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, Natalie Portman. And
Speaker 3: then she did bring her kid to SNEL one time
Speaker 3: and we said hello, and she looked so normal style
Speaker 3: like I'm a mom my kid wants to come to
Speaker 3: SNL to see the musical guest.
Speaker 1: She's very sweet.
Speaker 3: I am excited to hear that. Oh she was so
Speaker 3: fish and she said high back. She said high back,
Speaker 3: and then that was like I didn't want to say
Speaker 3: anything else. I was just like kind of like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Hello, she was like hi.
Speaker 1: And then that was it. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: all that needs to have. Ben. I am truly startstrawing.
Speaker 2: I've told you about when I was walking. I think
Speaker 2: I was walking remember that old when we were in NYU,
Speaker 2: there was that bar called Forum. Yeah, it was on
Speaker 2: like third ave. It was like a third ave in
Speaker 2: right by fourteenth or maybe like twelfth and third. I
Speaker 2: was walking by it one day and up you know
Speaker 2: how whenever they're shooting something in New York or wherever
Speaker 2: they have those like posters up to prohibit parking. It
Speaker 2: was like, we are shooting a movie and I asked someone,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are they shooting and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's a new Natalie Portman movie.
Speaker 1: Called Black Swan.
Speaker 2: They were shooting the scene with Natalie and Mila with
Speaker 2: a then unknown Sebastian Stan.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 2: Happening right in Forum. And then when I watched the
Speaker 2: movie later, I was like, oh my god, that is Forum.
Speaker 1: What like the strobe lights kind of go crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, like, well now it's not there anymore at something
Speaker 2: else now. But at the time I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: that really is that bar, And they really were shooting
Speaker 2: this scene that night. And it was around that time
Speaker 2: that I saw in the CVS two blocks away tiny
Speaker 2: as hell.
Speaker 3: Well, let's hope that she gets to be one of
Speaker 3: the torch relad people.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny is it's like Black Swan,
Speaker 2: Like that is such an athletic thing she had to
Speaker 2: do to accomplish playing her role in that film. And
Speaker 2: I think that's really what brings it back to Paris. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: we have so many people that are not only working
Speaker 2: hard to make sure that their performance in the Athletic
Speaker 2: Games and the Olympic Games themselves are on ten. But
Speaker 2: we've got people who are so dedicated to seeing this
Speaker 2: fire make its way all the way to the Olympic Games,
Speaker 2: still a light from its origin, and I think that
Speaker 2: is to be commended. And I think if we're going
Speaker 2: to give a gold, silver, and bronze medal today, we
Speaker 2: have to give the gold medal to everyone carrying the
Speaker 2: torch throughout history. Throughout history, if you carried the torch
Speaker 2: gold medal from.
Speaker 3: Us except for the people who use their big lighters
Speaker 3: to light a sham flame.
Speaker 2: Y'all don't get metal.
Speaker 1: You should have just owned up.
Speaker 3: To it and said, hey, I'm sorry, there was a
Speaker 3: literal thunderstorm happening and that's why they And imagine that
Speaker 3: the flame went out. Can we get the backup in?
Speaker 3: Can we fly in the backup? Simple as that. That
Speaker 3: is your job.
Speaker 2: Who gets the silver metal here today?
Speaker 3: Silver metal? I would say, I'm gonna give it to
Speaker 3: the continuity of the flame. The protocols that are put
Speaker 3: in place are really admirable. This is another testament to
Speaker 3: the human will, the collective human drive to preserve something
Speaker 3: something like the Olympic Flame. Humans can do amazing things
Speaker 3: when they come together and figure out a way to
Speaker 3: put meaning into something.
Speaker 1: And that is what continuing the flame is all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of perseverance and excellence, the Bronze Metal
Speaker 2: is going to fantasmic. Yes, it continues to push the
Speaker 2: boundaries of how much fire can be on water, how
Speaker 2: fun a show can be.
Speaker 1: How much it can inspire Kathy Freeman.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just say that without Fantastic, we would
Speaker 2: have no Kathy Freeman lighting the water on fire.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: And that's on period, and that's on truth, and that's
Speaker 3: on truth. Well, Matt, I've had such a wonderful time
Speaker 3: discussing the Olympic Flame with you.
Speaker 2: I always have such an amazing time discussing anything with you.
Speaker 2: And this is a testament to the human spirit.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I keep saying that, but I really am so inspired
Speaker 3: by the Olympics, and I talk about you know, they
Speaker 3: are an arena for all kinds of human history to happen.
Speaker 3: You have, you know, all the crazy conversations that I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to get political, that we have about trans athletes
Speaker 3: that's been happening in the at the Olympics since the
Speaker 3: early twentieth century. Like the Olympics are the place where
Speaker 3: all of this, where like humanity comes together. This is
Speaker 3: why I love the Olympics, honesties.
Speaker 2: Though it's a place for legends, the legends is a
Speaker 2: place for legends. And you can watch every moment of
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics beginning July twenty sixth
Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock And for the first time, you
Speaker 2: can stream the twenty twenty four Paris Games on the
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3: And we close every episode with that amazing Olympics melody.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: If only podcast or a visual medium, you can see
Speaker 2: the plane. You know what, if you're at home listening
Speaker 2: flight something on fire and look at it. Thanks guys,
Speaker 2: talk to you next time.
Speaker 1: Bye.