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Speaker 2: Five rings, Two guys say, in five.

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Speaker 3: Rings, you know Arina Grande has a song called seven Rings,

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Speaker 3: but five is just in the goldilocks.

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Speaker 1: Zone for me. Absolutely, just rights just right. Seven's too much.

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Speaker 2: That's too much, too much Arianna your opulent lifestyle. But

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Speaker 2: you know what else is opulent The Olympics. And that's

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Speaker 2: really what we're here to celebrate. On Two guys, five Rings,

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Speaker 2: the podcast that talks Olympics. I'm Matt Rogers, that's my name.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Bow and Yang and we're the two guys,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't you say passing back and forth the torch. That

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Speaker 3: is conversation. That is how podcasts do work.

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Speaker 2: And episode six of this podcast is going to talk

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Speaker 2: all about the Olympic flame and torch.

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Speaker 3: Okay, two separate things, and one thing needs the other

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Speaker 3: in order to I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Actually know that the carrying of the torch around the

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Speaker 2: world was real. Oh yeah, and then you really do

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Speaker 2: understand that this is the spirit stick, but for real,

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Speaker 2: like if this Olympic flame were to be extinguished or

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Speaker 3: I think it's like world building. I know we're using

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Speaker 3: It's like very like Game of Thrones when.

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Speaker 2: You say, absolutely well, it symbolizes the coming of the

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Speaker 2: it's less Game of Thrones in that that was more

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Speaker 2: and Game of Thrones haven't the common.

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Speaker 3: For certain for certain Now, have you ever carried a

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Speaker 2: Matt?

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Speaker 4: Oh, God, haven't I haven't I. We all have a

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Speaker 2: Then you make us laugh. I said, okay, So I

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I was gonna get be like backup, backup.

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Speaker 3: So they would be like macing on each other while

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Speaker 2: Like imagine me. I would be on the computer, I

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Speaker 1: Not uncool.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they liked to be watched.

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Speaker 2: They want they liked how I was a little voyeur,

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Speaker 2: I rarely even think about that. How weird that was

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Speaker 3: You are a kink and you will never be shamed.

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Speaker 3: It's not that you like to watch, it's more it's

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Speaker 2: Have you ever carried a torch?

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Speaker 3: I was going to say that, I've literally said the

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Speaker 1: It because it's of some kind.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean. We are recording this after

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Speaker 3: the Culture Awards, where in which we gave Mandy Moore

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Speaker 1: Do not need a reason to be angry with God.

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Speaker 2: I do not need a reason to be angry with God.

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Speaker 2: Is an amazing line, and she delivered it. I do

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Speaker 5: To be angry with God.

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Speaker 1: Incredible.

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Speaker 2: The key to acting is to barely allow noise to

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Speaker 5: Barely give anything. You can understand everything feeling, even if

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Speaker 1: You are so good.

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Speaker 2: I'm comply, girl. No, you are the dramatic genom. No.

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Speaker 2: Watch Fire Island now. If you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 2: turn it off. Watch Fire Island net watch me shed.

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Speaker 3: A tear to a perfume genius song to a perfume

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Speaker 2: You know who would be so happy? Greg Luganis. I

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Speaker 1: I don't think he knows the best thing.

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Speaker 2: It has bone Yang, it has gaze and has Fire Island,

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Speaker 1: I know it.

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Speaker 3: I can't be sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to find out. Maybe I'm placing the

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Speaker 2: breadcrumbs for Greg Luguinis to come on the podcast grag.

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Speaker 1: We would love to have you.

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Speaker 3: We would love to meet gregor invited Invite.

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Speaker 2: Nashley once said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and how did that song end? It was Bennette

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Speaker 3: Nashley fam well through my sister and she got all

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Speaker 1: I know. This is before the movie came out.

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Speaker 2: That's how I was with the show One Tree Hill.

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Speaker 3: It was like a closet thing for you because like, don't.

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Speaker 2: Remember when the OC was out and everyone liked the OC,

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Speaker 2: it was like cool California culture, but One Tree Hill

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Speaker 2: It was only for girls. Like you couldn't watch Chad

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Speaker 2: The first time a symbolic flame made its appearance at

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Speaker 2: The main purpose of this fire, placed in a large

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Speaker 3: When they cut to the torch a flame during the games,

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Speaker 3: Here's another factoid, Okay. The nineteen thirty six Berlin Games

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Speaker 3: again linking ancient times to the modern.

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Speaker 1: Era of the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: The Olympic flame for Berlin was lit with the aid

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Speaker 3: a time honored method that guarantees the purity of the flame.

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Speaker 3: the ruins of the Temple of Hera and Olympia, Greece

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, guys, but it's sorry, just true.

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Speaker 2: It's just true, y'all.

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Speaker 3: The Nazis didn't invent fire. No, it's fine, Okay. Fire

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Speaker 2: They use the original torch relay for propaganda purposes. The

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Speaker 3: When you look at the flame, you should think Central Perk.

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Speaker 2: I do you know? Because it never goes out? Right?

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Speaker 3: The Olympic, the Triwizard tournament, that is the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I ask if it never goes out because our Olympic flame,

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Speaker 2: Several emergency backup flames exist, but they are kept secret

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Speaker 3: Is it the same flame as nineteen twenty eight Amsterdam Games?

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Speaker 2: That would be completely insane.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying like the continuity of the flame is a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but lie, people lie all the time, going this

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Speaker 3: This is Hollywood. It's we're in Paris, Mama.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that it's integral. As the torch must be

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Speaker 3: well the color from white to yellowy red now white.

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Speaker 3: A white flame is, as we know, the hottest color.

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't the blue the hottest flame?

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Speaker 1: Blue is the warmest color. But white.

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Speaker 3: You know when someone says white hot, that means it's

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Speaker 2: WHOA Can I ask you what your favorite type of

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Speaker 3: that is? I'm thinking of hades. I'm thinking of James

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Speaker 2: I think blue flame is amazing. I'm very attracted to

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Speaker 3: M Yeah in the movies, fire is yellow and red.

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Speaker 3: I feel the sun is yellow. It's really a goodness

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Speaker 2: By the way, justice for one of the greatest pop

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Speaker 2: And gay. I just went to a show and someone saying, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 3: It sounds like Chaperone.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, goodness, gracious, grape balls Bowen. I'm telling you listen

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the flame and the great balls of fire

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Speaker 2: have been some mishaps. There have been some flame and

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Speaker 2: because it was you know, terrible, terrible flame. Fake fire imposter,

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Speaker 3: But that's listen, there are safeguards in place for when

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The torch deserves the real flame, and there are backup

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Speaker 2: Faulty burners have caused flameouts too, but beyond weather related

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Speaker 3: Slay they That is a movie I want to see, Yeah, extinguishers, Extinguishers?

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Speaker 3: Should that be our film? Yes, extinguishers.

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Speaker 2: It's about two gays who want to put out the

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Speaker 3: For attention and likes.

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Speaker 2: They do it for the likes. They do it for

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Speaker 3: This is kind of slay. At the twenty ten Vancouver

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Speaker 3: we want to see. Let's not get too innovative with fire,

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Speaker 2: Keep it simple.

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Speaker 3: Keep it simple, because if you want to get all

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Speaker 2: Certainly not you want to see a bird fly.

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Speaker 3: I want to see a bird fly. And these will

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Speaker 2: Just everyone, just keep the fire away from the birds.

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Speaker 2: Please please wait. Speaking of bird watching, did I tell

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Speaker 2: I sent you a lot of videos from my vacation.

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Speaker 3: They're scary birds, aren't they. They are huge, the bald eagles.

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Speaker 3: these bald eagles. Hordes of bald eagles just like munching

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Speaker 2: I mean, the America eat in trash? Yeah, absolute, one

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Speaker 2: you can look at a bald eagle and think dignified.

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Speaker 2: The bitch is eating trash, okay at the end of

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Speaker 2: But they're still quite endangered. But you know, if you

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Speaker 3: Let's talk through some memorable moments of lighting in the cauldron.

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Speaker 3: We have Barcelona ninety two. Antonio Rabilio, Spanish Paralympic archer

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Speaker 3: Catinus Everdeen found not even born yet, so Catinus of him,

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Speaker 3: had she been born, had she been born? Two thousand

439
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Speaker 3: Sydney Games. Track and field superstar Aborigine Australian Kathy Freeman,

440
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Speaker 3: wearing a white bodysuit, stepped into a pool of water

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Speaker 3: and touched the torch to the cauldron. With the water,

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Speaker 3: a ring a fired circle tar cauldron rose from the

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Speaker 3: water as sending to the top of the stadium. I

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Speaker 3: remember this. I was but a child of nine. Yeah,

445
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: and I went, wow, that was cool.

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Speaker 2: That was really cool. That was definitely one of the

447
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Speaker 2: fire moments I remember the most. Like that was pretty epic.

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Speaker 2: Anytime water is on fire, To be honest with you,

449
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of gagged.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the only exception that we are throwing

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Speaker 3: out there when dealing with fire, they're better be more

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Speaker 3: water than fire involved.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, and this was.

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Speaker 3: Definitely the case. It's very Poseidon's Adventure, very what else

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Speaker 3: like free Willy, Free Willy. Also fantasmic. Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean you can't talk about fire and water together

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Speaker 2: without talking about fantasmic and really all the Water World

458
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Speaker 2: show at Universal Studios Hollywood. Have I ever taken you

459
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Speaker 2: to that?

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Speaker 1: I think you have.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty fabulous. It's pretty spectacular, a lot of high

462
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Speaker 2: optane energy. It's really really it's stunt driven and there's fire.

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Speaker 1: On the water for sure.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight, I remember this Beijing Games decorated

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Speaker 3: Olympic gymnast leaning lifted into the air on strings, very

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Speaker 3: crouching tiger, very Wusha film style.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: He then flew ran a lap atop of the rim

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Speaker 3: of the stadium before lighting the cauldron, and then that

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Speaker 3: itself traveled throm and lit the cauldron that was perched

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Speaker 3: on I'm going to say the word rim one more

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Speaker 3: time on the rim of the stadium. Leaning is sort

473
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Speaker 3: of like the Michael Jordan of China. He has his

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Speaker 3: own very popular clothing line. He's sort of like the

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Speaker 3: symbolic Chinese athlete who was able to parlay that into

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Speaker 3: a huge thriving apparel business.

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Speaker 2: Go off.

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Speaker 3: So we celebrate Leaning go off, Sir.

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Speaker 2: The ninety ninety six Atlanta Games, the greatest Muhammad Ali

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Speaker 2: gets the honor of lighting the cauldron. That was a

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Speaker 2: moment in time. And you know, of course we've got

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Speaker 2: our key figures from the upcoming twenty twenty four Paris

483
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Speaker 2: Games because you know, we have to always bring it

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Speaker 2: back to Paris.

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Speaker 1: We always have to bring it back to Paris.

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Speaker 2: The flame arrived in France via boat across the Mediterranean

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Speaker 2: Sea from Greece on May eighth.

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Speaker 3: The relay will span sixty eight days only on French territory.

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Speaker 3: I think that's kind of she keep it in the borders.

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Speaker 2: Keep it within borders, keep it very French.

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Speaker 3: Sixty five territories involved, including six overseas Territory, Guadaloupe, French Guyana, Martinique,

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Speaker 3: French Polynesia, New Caledonia, and the Island of Reunion.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm. The relay will go more through more than four

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Speaker 2: hundred cities. So are they going to get like all

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Speaker 2: of France's best to like carry this? Like, are we

496
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Speaker 2: gonna get some celebrity sightings.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get Charlotte Gainsborg, We're gonna get Mari Uncle Tillard,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get Natalie Portman's children who grew up.

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Speaker 2: In Paris, Benjamin Milpier, ex husband, ex husband, you know

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Speaker 2: they met doing Black Swan. That's right, that's just the

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Speaker 2: Natalie Portman history. I'm made of that stuff. I'm just

502
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Speaker 2: a peek behind the curtain. For all the Olympics facts.

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Speaker 2: We need the Google doc that we use. But if

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Speaker 2: you ask, like, what's the name of Natalie Portman's ex

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Speaker 2: husband who she has French kids with, Benjamin miller Pier

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Speaker 2: and they met during Black Swan, there you go, Natalie Hirschlog. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Natalie Hirschlog, that is her real last name. You know,

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Speaker 2: I saw her once in a CVS tiny.

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Speaker 3: I saw her once smoking a cigarette outside of a

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Speaker 3: Broadway theater tiny.

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Speaker 2: Were you seeing the same show as her?

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Speaker 3: No, she I think she was like in rehearsals and

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Speaker 3: she was like out like this was like my first

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Speaker 3: year in New York. This is like two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, Natalie Portman. And

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Speaker 3: then she did bring her kid to SNEL one time

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Speaker 3: and we said hello, and she looked so normal style

518
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Speaker 3: like I'm a mom my kid wants to come to

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Speaker 3: SNL to see the musical guest.

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Speaker 1: She's very sweet.

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Speaker 3: I am excited to hear that. Oh she was so

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Speaker 3: fish and she said high back. She said high back,

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Speaker 3: and then that was like I didn't want to say

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Speaker 3: anything else. I was just like kind of like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, Hello, she was like hi.

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Speaker 1: And then that was it. I was like, this is

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Speaker 1: all that needs to have. Ben. I am truly startstrawing.

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Speaker 2: I've told you about when I was walking. I think

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Speaker 2: I was walking remember that old when we were in NYU,

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Speaker 2: there was that bar called Forum. Yeah, it was on

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Speaker 2: like third ave. It was like a third ave in

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Speaker 2: right by fourteenth or maybe like twelfth and third. I

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Speaker 2: was walking by it one day and up you know

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Speaker 2: how whenever they're shooting something in New York or wherever

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Speaker 2: they have those like posters up to prohibit parking. It

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Speaker 2: was like, we are shooting a movie and I asked someone,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are they shooting and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's a new Natalie Portman movie.

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Speaker 1: Called Black Swan.

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Speaker 2: They were shooting the scene with Natalie and Mila with

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Speaker 2: a then unknown Sebastian Stan.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was.

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Speaker 2: Happening right in Forum. And then when I watched the

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Speaker 2: movie later, I was like, oh my god, that is Forum.

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Speaker 1: What like the strobe lights kind of go crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like, well now it's not there anymore at something

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Speaker 2: else now. But at the time I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that really is that bar, And they really were shooting

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Speaker 2: this scene that night. And it was around that time

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Speaker 2: that I saw in the CVS two blocks away tiny

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Speaker 2: as hell.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hope that she gets to be one of

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Speaker 3: the torch relad people.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny is it's like Black Swan,

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Speaker 2: Like that is such an athletic thing she had to

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Speaker 2: do to accomplish playing her role in that film. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's really what brings it back to Paris. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we have so many people that are not only working

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Speaker 2: hard to make sure that their performance in the Athletic

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Speaker 2: Games and the Olympic Games themselves are on ten. But

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Speaker 2: we've got people who are so dedicated to seeing this

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Speaker 2: fire make its way all the way to the Olympic Games,

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Speaker 2: still a light from its origin, and I think that

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Speaker 2: is to be commended. And I think if we're going

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Speaker 2: to give a gold, silver, and bronze medal today, we

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Speaker 2: have to give the gold medal to everyone carrying the

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Speaker 2: torch throughout history. Throughout history, if you carried the torch

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Speaker 2: gold medal from.

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Speaker 3: Us except for the people who use their big lighters

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Speaker 3: to light a sham flame.

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Speaker 2: Y'all don't get metal.

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Speaker 1: You should have just owned up.

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Speaker 3: To it and said, hey, I'm sorry, there was a

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Speaker 3: literal thunderstorm happening and that's why they And imagine that

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Speaker 3: the flame went out. Can we get the backup in?

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00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: Can we fly in the backup? Simple as that. That

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Speaker 3: is your job.

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Speaker 2: Who gets the silver metal here today?

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Speaker 3: Silver metal? I would say, I'm gonna give it to

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Speaker 3: the continuity of the flame. The protocols that are put

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Speaker 3: in place are really admirable. This is another testament to

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Speaker 3: the human will, the collective human drive to preserve something

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Speaker 3: something like the Olympic Flame. Humans can do amazing things

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Speaker 3: when they come together and figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: put meaning into something.

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Speaker 1: And that is what continuing the flame is all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of perseverance and excellence, the Bronze Metal

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Speaker 2: is going to fantasmic. Yes, it continues to push the

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Speaker 2: boundaries of how much fire can be on water, how

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Speaker 2: fun a show can be.

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Speaker 1: How much it can inspire Kathy Freeman.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's just say that without Fantastic, we would

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Speaker 2: have no Kathy Freeman lighting the water on fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: And that's on period, and that's on truth, and that's

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Speaker 3: on truth. Well, Matt, I've had such a wonderful time

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Speaker 3: discussing the Olympic Flame with you.

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Speaker 2: I always have such an amazing time discussing anything with you.

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Speaker 2: And this is a testament to the human spirit.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I keep saying that, but I really am so inspired

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Speaker 3: by the Olympics, and I talk about you know, they

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Speaker 3: are an arena for all kinds of human history to happen.

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Speaker 3: You have, you know, all the crazy conversations that I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry to get political, that we have about trans athletes

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Speaker 3: that's been happening in the at the Olympics since the

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Speaker 3: early twentieth century. Like the Olympics are the place where

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Speaker 3: all of this, where like humanity comes together. This is

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Speaker 3: why I love the Olympics, honesties.

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Speaker 2: Though it's a place for legends, the legends is a

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Speaker 2: place for legends. And you can watch every moment of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics beginning July twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock And for the first time, you

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00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: can stream the twenty twenty four Paris Games on the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: And we close every episode with that amazing Olympics melody.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: If only podcast or a visual medium, you can see

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Speaker 2: the plane. You know what, if you're at home listening

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Speaker 2: flight something on fire and look at it. Thanks guys,

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Speaker 2: talk to you next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye.