1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: your filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: and a bottle of mind to kill it. It's books, 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: It's gossip. I'm shook, It's memoir's Martini. Clebrit Book Club 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: can read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Alloud Celebrited book say it Loud and Cloud Celebrity Book 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Club buzz Man. I brought the queer foe. Hey, my 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: best friend, how are you on this beautiful Tuesday words 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Windtree Tuesday? You know I am doing really, really well. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: It's been an insanely chaotic week. I know I've been sick. 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I know you've been struggling with home injuries. I have 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: you just cut back from Miami. I just turned thirty. 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: B it's been really wild. For some reason, we haven't 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: seen each other in a long time, and somehow in 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: that week, like a lot has happened, and I became 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: fully crippled. Can I say that? You can't say anything. 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Before you became crippled, you sort of crossed over into 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: middle age. I'm literally like I have no gray hairs yet. 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: But it's like now I'm like officially middle aged. Like 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: in the fifties, thirty six was considered middle age. I 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: mean in the forties, thirty six was considered dead, and 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: in the eighteen forties, like, oh my god, honey, it's 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: a medical miracle if you're still alive. You were certainly 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: missing all your teeth. But those trumpers are still looking 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: good from what I can see, but your toe is. Yeah. 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: So I was cleaning my room on Saturday afternoon and 28 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I just kind of walked into a corner of a 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: wall and stobbed that pinky toe and that little piggy 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, you can tell me. I was like screaming 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: for a while, and I was like, oh, this really hurts. 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: And then you're kind of like an hour goes by, 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and I finally started during that hour where it was 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: Throbbing Fatiguan and Sarah show on Amazon that everyone has 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: been telling us to watch that's based off the book 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: we did and and you did watch, is really good. 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I would say it's almost like better than 38 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: the book because you get to see like girl on 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Girl action hot, so you see full penetration. No, you 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: don't see like you don't see finger in vagina. No, 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: it's a little more like teen longing. And just like 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: the styling is really good and they're in like so 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: many like funky big hoodies. How big are the hood 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: is are? We know the stylings big Calgary, huge Calgary 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: hoodie flannels, massive Jinko's wallet chains, smashing pumpkin t shirts 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: like they're always like borrowing converse from each other. Dam 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and anyway, Yeah, and that's my um my little TV 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: for review. Obviously, well get into more media. We love 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: the vpl out. Thank you for the culture cadfest. I 50 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: didn't have the luxury of watching television while I was 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: in Miami, except I did catch Like that's not true. 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: I did catch like three episodes of The White Lotus 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: on like HBO in my hotel room. There's like randomly 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: throughout the season, and I was like, Okay, this is fun. 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: You finally caved in to the rest of us. Sheep 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: baa Abbie Plaza, I mean, speaking of Abbie Plaza, I'm 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: sorry one fucking note. Yeah, it's like you're bored, like 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: like um but ultimately I did only watch two episodes 59 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing other episodes at other 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: hotels that I'm at, and I'm kind of excited to 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: take that journey. Um, I'm also I need to hear 62 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: everything about Miami and I will tell you. I will 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: tell you all about my trip to Miami in the 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: VIP lounge. I will tell you about the drivers that 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I had every single day faring me around Miami. I 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: will tell you about all the meals I ate at 67 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: our hotel. I was actually being so white Lotus and 68 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I was like, you're just like getting driven only eating 69 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: at the hotel, like not going out to eat like 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: anywhere else, not great out to eat. It was like 71 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: day four, It's just like and I'm having the seventeen 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: dollars c VICHA again. And it's just like by the 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: fourth You're just like are showing and I feel like 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you were working that we need to get to the book. 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: But I feel like you were like literally like actually 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: really working. I was literally working. I was interviewing people 77 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: at crypto events, Um, who are how do I say this? 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I will save it for the VIP lounge. I feel 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: like you're like also under an NDA for this event, 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: and maybe we need like a v VI I p 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: lage and I'll break it up. And this is what 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: we also more media that I consume them. We need 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: to talk about the vip lage, which is the Santa 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: documentary that I sent shoot a clip of o'h wait 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: that looks completely insane about like the lesbian Santa just 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: being like, I'm sorry, but I'm doctor Clause because I 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm not missus Clause. I'm doctor Clause. I've been walking 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: round this is a documentary about making like this league 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: of Santa's in New England war diverse. I've been walking 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: around my house just saying I'm doctor Laus. Oh she's 91 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: from Chicago. The fem Oh my god, missus Claus, who 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: wants to be called is doctor Clause of course, and 93 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: just like she's like I work and soda Santa, we're 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: not married and we need to make space for folks 95 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: in the North Pole who aren't married. Just to like, 96 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: just to piggyback off the diversity topic, and we will 97 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: get into the vip lounge. But as no, I did 98 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: go to a tequila party for did I gonz Tequila 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: on a yacht owned by the CEO of iHeartRadio, which 100 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: I will tell you about. But allegedly, according to somebody 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I was with, the tequila Master for this brand, is 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the only lesbian tequila master in the world. In the world, 103 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: but it's like, tequila Master seems like the most lesbian 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: title I know. I was just like, everywhere I go, 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm seeing like the most vast, spiky hair, spiky lesbian bartendress, 106 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, how is it possible that there's only one? 107 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Like this is a mes call from a small village 108 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: south of warez Um. It's been made by the same 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: So clearly there's something up if there's only one lesbian. 110 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: But it maybe this thing where tequila Master is such 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: a like grandson only a title where you do need 112 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: to like pay eighty thousand dollars to some certification course 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: to get it, and like there are financial reason that 114 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: a community from getting You just have to basically pay, 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: have daddy pay your way to become tequilas. As we know, 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: lesbians have a tough time building generational wealth, yes, because 117 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: of how much march they buy. I'm literally wearing chr 118 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: this is why you don't know. It's literally I'm reveal 119 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: this Nathan's famous Sam tea. It wasn't impulse by as 120 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: most most are where did you were you at like 121 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Coney Island when you got that? Yeah, it was a class. 122 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: It was like a climate change day and like me, 123 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: maya um front of the pod Mia, We're just like 124 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: doing a Coney Island like ridiculous swalk because it was 125 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: like warm out. Oh you weren't at an event to 126 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: like stop climate change. No, we were not like protesting 127 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: like at the beach with like seals like coming to 128 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: the shore. Okay, wait, cyber just a preview of the 129 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: crypto insanity. I was like at this event talking to 130 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: this guy. Everyone is so life coach, like psycho drinking 131 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the kool aid down there, and this one guy was 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, actually I'm working in the crypto space 133 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and we are doing a beach cleanup, and we're actually 134 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: tokenizing the beach clean up so you can buy an NFTE. 135 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Like what so I'm buying a fractional piece of a 136 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: jpeg of trash that you got off the beach. How 137 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: how does anyway? It's like how yet It's like okay, no, 138 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I have now stopped in this, you know, Okay, we 139 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: have to get to the talk about the book. It's 140 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: so great catching up with friends after a sessionment better 141 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: help anyway. And you know who also loves to catch 142 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: up with friends and not and doesn't like small talk, 143 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: likes to catch up with friends soberly at a beach 144 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: now that he's into surfing and can actually like connect 145 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: with the water now that he's allowed to go surfing 146 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: because he wasn't part of the cool surfing kids and 147 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: exactly the lost boys. I would say this is actually 148 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: one of our most requested books randomly. Yes, um, so 149 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: this one's for for you. That's what's perfecking you for 150 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: the collars, the late night strollers, the actors, the artists, 151 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: the dreamers, the thinkers, people who literally again have a 152 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: freaking dream. It's the actor known as Rob Oho and 153 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: his book stories I only tell my friends an autobiography. Um, 154 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: and it's the cover is like a Sepia toned close 155 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: upshot of that gorgeous face kind of squinting in the 156 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: sun and it's kind of with his hands over his eyes. 157 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: It's like covering the sun. Yeah, so he's kind of 158 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: kind looking out. You can picture him maybe in Malibu, 159 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: like looking at the horizon or looking at his son's 160 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Owen and John Owen Okay, Oh no, no no, no, it's 161 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Matthew and Matthew and John Owen. So it's he wanted 162 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: the name John, his wife Cheryl wanted the name Owen, beautiful, 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: beautiful Cheryl, and so they decided to combine them and 164 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: name the child John Owen. But it's not John Owen. 165 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: It's all one word. It's John Owen, John Owen. Which 166 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: is it's really giving like early Hollywood, like Hudson quinlin Quin. Yeah, 167 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: like what did Julie robertsieber kid Phineas? Yeah? But Finny 168 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: is I guess it has this vibe of like old 169 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: timey like referencing England and like no, I mean, which 170 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: is like still all names now just being like Margo, 171 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: Agnes whatever. But right, jon Owyn feels really Malibu to me. 172 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: It's just wrong. It's just one of those It's just wrong. 173 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: It's very like Brecca, which would we discussed in Indiana 174 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: Taylor Garza app just's like that's not a name, demitrio. Okay, 175 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about the back of the book, 176 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: which is the most like insane actor photo I've ever seen. 177 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: It's Roblow looking again, hot as hell, like laughing down, 178 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: looking down and like the most like just like stress 179 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: stress Levi's like like button fly like western shirt, okay, 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: and also like so many bracelet like leather bracelets. He 181 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: just is so catalog model and like he'll always be that, 182 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: And I think that is why like informed his career 183 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: and why he had the career he has had the 184 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: career he has had, and compared to everyone else like 185 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: in the Brat Pack or whatever, it's just like he's 186 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: never really had an otur moment and like the most 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: prestige thing he's done is The West Wing, which you 188 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: know is still cheesy, And this whole book is about 189 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: like him getting the big movie, like The Outsiders and 190 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: then like and shooting it for like a year and 191 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: going through this grueling, grueling audition process and then he's 192 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: cut from the film or like yeah, even on the 193 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: West Wing, like everyone has given a raise but him, 194 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: and then like and it's like him learning to accept 195 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: that actually some of his best roles were like not 196 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: leading roles, which I agree with, which is just like, yeah, 197 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the comedy is Austin Powers Tommy Boy, And at the 198 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, you know, because you 199 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: look at everyone else that was his contemporary. It's like 200 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Demi Moore, Tom Cruise, Patrick Swayzey, Matt Dillon, all of 201 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: those people have like extremely like highbrow, like very otur 202 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: moments in their career that they can put to it 203 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: being like, oh, this is something that like everyone agrees 204 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: now looking back is like a very like chic, cool, 205 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: smart movie and like Rubbo that define it. And it's 206 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: like in this book, he would like talk about these 207 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: movies that he did heat with that and you're and 208 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: he's like, and then we started filming like Square Dance, 209 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: and then we started filming About Last Night, and you're 210 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: like any of it? Yeah, I mean, and like I've 211 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: definitely seen like his bigger eighties flicks, Saint Almo's Fire, 212 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's Fire. I have to say I've never seen 213 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: Saint Almo's Fire. But I thought he was passed over 214 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: for Breakfast Club by Judd Nelson, which John Hughes wanted 215 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: someone like more of an unknown. I feel like that 216 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: is another thing that kept in happening to him, Like 217 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: at some point he became too known to be the 218 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: like unknown Hattie. Yeah, but then like not Tom Cruise 219 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: enough to be this full. I mean he also does says, 220 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean Tom cru let me. I mean, as you know, 221 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Tom cru is one of my favorite actors and he's brilliant. 222 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: I know you love Mission Impossible. I know you love Wait, 223 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: what's that amazing movie with him and Cameron Diaz Night Day? Oh? Well? 224 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Also well, also Night and Day though the movie where 225 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: he is a spy and he's the whole movie is 226 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: him like drugging her and then she's like waking up 227 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: on a helicopter being like what's happening? And then they 228 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: have to like fight their way out of a warehouse 229 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and it's like literally the most dream movie ever. Just 230 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: like a spy is constantly just like drugging you, but 231 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: then you become a spy. Okay, I do need to 232 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: see that. And you know it's funny because it's saying 233 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: almost fire is more me Like I feel like his 234 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: character in that is like a saxy guy who's a 235 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: saxophonist who dates the Demi Moore, right, because there's the 236 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Economy poster where he's blowing on the sacks and he 237 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: does talk about how that infiltrated every dorm room and 238 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: then he knew he had pierced the zeitgeist, right, by 239 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: now every cool guy. I wanted to play Sacks and 240 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: then I think it really I mean, I think of 241 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: like Parks and Wreck honestly as his like most role. 242 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Then way is true to him. He is hot, but 243 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: he's catalog caught and that's like his joke on Parks 244 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: and rec It's like he's still just like corny. Yeah, 245 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: well and he is so corny, I mean, and this 246 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of explains his whole his love of the Westman. 247 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: So this whole book is like sort of leads up 248 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: to the West Wing, which is, like, you know, inarguably 249 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: his biggest role. And he like starts out the book 250 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: talking about like doing this photoshoot for George Magazine, like 251 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: right before Jfka Junior died in that plane crash. Do 252 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: you remember where you were when John John died? I remember. 253 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I want to say school, but I do remember. I 254 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: feel like I remember, like it was this thing, Like 255 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh my parents were like crying about 256 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: John Junior dying, but like the Kennedys do, and especially 257 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: if you're from Massachusetts, have that much more effect than 258 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: it is like a little more family meeting, like something 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: really bad. It is very family meeting. Yeah, like hey, kids, 260 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: like sit down. Well, it's so funny because his mom 261 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: does that to him when for the moon landing, and 262 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: she's like she wakes him up. She was going to 263 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: change um. But yeah, I remember for me, I was 264 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: with my childhood best friend Ben at his house and 265 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: his nanny came in and like, you know, we had 266 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: we've been following the story the plane was missing on 267 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: the on the flight to Nantucket, and then like she came. 268 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: We were like playing video games and she was just like, 269 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: they found the plane? Did she say they found that? 270 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: She was like so like, yeah, they found the plane. 271 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: She was a little bit more just like they found 272 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: the plane, just like we all knew it, and we 273 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: were both just being like, oh my god, that's like 274 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: so sad. What I really remember is seeing George magazine, 275 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, at the CVS and like knowing it was cool. Yeah, 276 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: not really like reading it or like but getting that 277 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: it was cooler than the other magazines. Yeah, and I 278 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: got that it was like culture but politics, you know, 279 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: I could gather that it was and that's what it's 280 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: the whole I mean. This book is just also one 281 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: of the most actor actor books of just like admiring 282 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: men and like being an actor and just like he's 283 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: honest really like praising the actor, like as a star 284 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: and like getting you to understand why actors are like 285 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: so important. Yeah, And so it's like the book starts 286 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: out with like him and JFK. Junior like at a 287 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: ski resort like Sun Valley, and he's like they're shaking 288 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: each other's hands and they're bad men. Like he's just 289 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: like and like JFK. And you're just like, how'd you 290 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: do it? Man? And Bob blows just like, man, here's 291 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: my advice. If you meet a girl and she's your 292 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: best friend marrier, don't wait another second because is short 293 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and you don't know when it's gonna pass you by. 294 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Lock her down and JFK Jr. And like they're in 295 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Aspen and just like okay, got it. And then he's 296 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: like and he did marry his beautiful blonde Carolyn, and 297 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: then he didn't kill her in a plane accident, but 298 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: he married her, but respect. But so the whole book 299 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: starts out like framing this as this George photo shoot 300 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: where he's going to do right before Westbring premieres, and 301 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: he's so proud of the West Wing. And it's also 302 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: so clear. It's like how people who won't both worked 303 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: on the West Wing and loved the West Wing, like 304 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: see no distinction between the fiction of the West Wing 305 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: and their life literally working at the White working at 306 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: the White House, and their idealized version of the White House. 307 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that as someone who used to 308 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: work in politics, I remember, Sorry, wait, you used to 309 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: work in Actually, it's really interesting you bring that uply, 310 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: thank you for actually bringing that up, because I did. 311 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: And you've heard speeches and in my current which is 312 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: Rob Blows, I was actually I was the Rob. I 313 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: was the Sam Seaborn for Bildi Blasio and Scutts Stringer, 314 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and my speech is often that those would be fundraising 315 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: emails saying please donate twenty dollars and thirteen cents to 316 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: donate to our twenty thirteen campaign. But I remember my 317 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: first boss. Do you remember Catherine, my first boss at 318 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Scots Ringer. Yeah, um, who would make me work from 319 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: nine am till seven pm every day. Her ring tone 320 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: was the west Oh my god, that's so corney, because 321 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: everyone in politics of like my generation, which is different 322 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: than your generation. Yeah, please sit down, let me tell 323 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: you a story once I wrote a fundraising email for 324 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: bilde Blasio's wife. Okay, what you're gen x, you don't 325 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: understand what us millennials went through. But yeah, no, sorry, Um, 326 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: some of us are actually Jim buddies with Bill de Blasio. 327 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: So why don't you take a seat. Yeah, me and together, 328 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Me and Bill, um William actually as I call him, Um, 329 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: we're biking not next to each other at the wive 330 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: the other week, but many bikes between us, but the 331 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: same row, and there was no one, no one between 332 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: us except for the bikes, like five bikes between us. 333 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: That makes sense. By candle left, he's on the right. 334 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And yeah heat wired headphones not the wired I love. Yeah, 335 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: that's so me when I'm losing my wireless. Oh totally. 336 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: I want to talk about when he won. The scene 337 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: where they're all auditioning basically, like all the male stars 338 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: of the eighties are auditioning for the Outsiders, So Matt Dylan, 339 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, Yeah, and they all get sent to the Plaza. 340 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: They're all like sixteen to nineteen, Okay, so this whole scene, 341 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: so they basically so just so listeners. So they had 342 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: a first round of auditions and it was like very intense, 343 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: and Frances for Coppola and like Roblow has to cry 344 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: and they're all like he already knows Emilio Estevezi like 345 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: lives next to him and the sheenes in Malibu, and 346 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: like Martin, they're always like playing football and like drinking. 347 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: The way it's so the way he talks is so 348 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: like montage about an eighties movie, just like very itonia, 349 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: just being like, yeah, man, it was the best of times. 350 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: It was the worst of times. We were calling girls, 351 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: shooting hoops, working out, dropping ludes the beach, getting in trouble, 352 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: driving cars classes. He's like, yeah, I had min nineteen 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: sixty eight Mazda man who's all and a total Also, wait, 354 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: can we talk about how he does the Demi the 355 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: classic actor thing where he's like a hot actor and 356 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I was just like a loser, ugly 357 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: weirdo who was called a fag. Wait, yes, no, I 358 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: mean that is his whole story. He's literally fat, even 359 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: though he's like a hawkeye finds a way to be 360 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: every girl memory I've ever read, being like I was gangling, 361 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: awkward and weird and I wasn't allowed in the coolest 362 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: place in the bus and all the surfers hated me 363 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: because I was a faggot and I wanted to be 364 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: an actor. And though you know why, I do also 365 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: think this happens because like a raw blow and a 366 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: tom cruise, when we see them on screen, it's about 367 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: proportions for TV because in person they are like tiny 368 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: and like the head is too big. Yes, and so 369 00:20:53,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe the like tall blonde surfers were hotter and they're like, 370 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: whore's this guy with a big head who loves Liza Minelli? Wait, 371 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and can I bring up a point just as a sidebar, please, 372 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: all boys are really gay? Like pre sixteen. I feel 373 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: like I feel like there are a lot of like 374 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: seven year old boys. You see that you're like, damn, 375 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: is he gonna be gay? And then he turns out 376 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: actually really straight, describing just like normal biology, just like, yeah, 377 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: you you don't get flooded with testosterone and your balls 378 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: don't drop until you're thirteen. So yeah, at seven you 379 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: do seem like a bat hit. But you've got these 380 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: little high voices. Okay, but I'm saying with like biosist 381 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: little girls, you're not like, okay, you guys are all 382 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: lesbians yeah, I mean kind of, but also like so 383 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: many girls are tom boys Okay, I mean okay, but yes, 384 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: also you're right. I think part of it is because 385 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: society teaches mad yes right, No, what's that's so that 386 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: book boys and cry? But mainly my story was that 387 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: always are not even more sensitive and than they're taught 388 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: to be, like, you know, stiffer toxicum. Roblow is obsessed 389 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: with Liza Minnelli as a child. Okay, well the Liza 390 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: Minnelli meeting scene where at twenty nine he's like a 391 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: child and he's like going to so many additions his 392 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: mom is. I just feel like the mom in the 393 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: story is the same as every mom and every story 394 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: and is also the same as every momle life. It's 395 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: like literally every mom is just like and then she 396 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: entered a period of her life where she was in 397 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: bed for five hours a day. It's like made me 398 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: think of a few moms you and meet. No possibly, 399 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like it was yet that stage where 400 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: my U we're a mom. Yeah, it was just in 401 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: her bedroom for five hours a day. It's just like 402 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: all moms always doing this being like I'm sick and 403 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why and then it's just like this 404 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: is the story. Moms are tired, dads are gone. That's 405 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: the toxic and it's just like it never yeah, it 406 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: never hits forty like now, yeah, moms are like I'm 407 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: And then she becomes like so new age and oils 408 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: and like wearing an oxygen mask around La. She's always 409 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: marrying her analyst. She marries her analysts who she like 410 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: meets at a special at an allergy hospital. It's also 411 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: very early scientology seventies cult where it's like I met 412 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: a man and he helps with allergies and it's actually 413 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: like an allergy cult, and like there is like a 414 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Netflix talk about it. But I mean the analogs to 415 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: today are just like so many. It's just so like okay, 416 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: and now it's so wellness and it's just like every 417 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: mom now just being like my son has seventeen peanut 418 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: allergies and now we can only have essential oils in 419 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: the house. What happened to free base and peanuts? Thank you? 420 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: What happens when your kid get a fucked up on 421 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: the playground? Yeah, So the mom they moved to LA 422 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: with the psychiatrist. 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So they 472 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: first of all, they take this plane right, it's like 473 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: him Emilio west of as Tom Cruise, and like whoever 474 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: else Matt Dylan is on the plane, I don't know. 475 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: And they're all like, no, Matt Dylan is. This is 476 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Matt Dylan is a New York kid 477 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: that's brought in. So Matt Dylan is like not at 478 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: the hotel yet they're all at the plaza and they're 479 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: all like sharing rooms. Fifteen year old Tom Cruise calls 480 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: his agent and starts screaming at his agent, being like 481 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: they're making us share rooms, Like what the fuck? This 482 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: is not acceptable? Like thank you, Pauline hangs up. Yeah, 483 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and they're all like, who is this insane tiny businessman 484 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: and like and he's just like and he had like 485 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: a professionalism and attention to detail that would later serve 486 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: him very well in life. But I was also just 487 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: because I was looking for evidence because then he's like 488 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: that we went to like Time Square because we wanted 489 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: to get girls and booze. Like we were young, we 490 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: only have one thing on our mind. Got in the 491 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: back of the cab. We said forty second streets. So 492 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: I do feel like that is extremely gay of Tom 493 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: Cruise to be like I need my own room. Yeah, wild, 494 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: because he's probably going to Time Square to get like fuckers, 495 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: but also just being so like I need my own 496 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: room with the plaza. Yeah, it's also just gay in it, 497 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: not even I'm hosting way, just like I need to 498 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: like put on in ord Striger and go to bed 499 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: and like have my own space. And I don't want 500 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: like loud boys being loud near me. Yeah, he's like, ooh, 501 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have like Amelio Estevez's like nasty ass 502 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: like sleeping next to me. Yeah, and his dirty socks gross. 503 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: And then the next day, Matt Dylan like walks on 504 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: set to the auditions and he's literally just like holding 505 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: like a big boom box like playing music and like 506 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: not a care in the world, and they're all like, damn, 507 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: that guy's a badass. He does said this thing about 508 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise where he's like he had this in this 509 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: intensity where like no matter what you'd be doing in 510 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: the scene, somehow when the camera would go on him, 511 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: he would turn out the intensity like so much more 512 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: in this way that was like so focused and professional. 513 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: It was scary, and which is another reason why I 514 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: loved Tom Cruise as an actor, because you see that intensity, 515 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: that intensity his little eyes and his tiny beady little 516 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: eyes in his five seven frame, and you're just like, yeah, 517 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: you really are taking this seriously, and it is a 518 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: little scary. I guess I didn't realize. Also, like I 519 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: knew Francis wor Coopla was insane, I didn't realize like 520 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: how much of an insane direct tour he was where 521 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: he was like Okay, now like go like sleep at 522 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: a random person's house in Tulsa who like used to 523 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: yeah and do their get their make their own costumes 524 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: and like Amelia Steves chose the Mickey Mouse T shirt. 525 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: That was a really cool styling film note that. Yeah, 526 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: I like his advice. And he was like, you know, 527 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: find what you can to make the part your own 528 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: and stand out in an ensemble, not in a way 529 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: that's too much, but like just enough that like people 530 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 1: think it's interesting, and like that's what I'm onia doing. 531 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: And it was a really good idea. And I was 532 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: watching the opening of The Outsiders last night and it's 533 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: like it doesn't where it's like that they can't because 534 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: if they're all in leather jackets and like look like 535 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Matt Dylan's character, then it's just like a little too grease. 536 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: But it's like Matt Dilan isn't a leather jacket. But 537 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: then like Emilio Estevez is in like this Mickey Mouse team, 538 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: and then Rob Blow is like flamel white T shirt, 539 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: which is probably more accurate rather than like they're this 540 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: big leather jacketed gang. Um wait, can we just role 541 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: play the scene with Sarahjessica Parker at the diner just 542 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: to before we do this? I just want it. The 543 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: way he frames every single story in this book, it's 544 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: always a reveal of that where he's like, yeah, me 545 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: and this beautiful blond girl with curly hair, mat gonna 546 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: put a diner and like or it's like me and 547 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: this guy, we're at a golf course and that man 548 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: was Ronald Reagan and that woman was Darryl Hammer. I've 549 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: always like, fifteen years later, I looked in the newspaper 550 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: to see my old friend Janet Janet jack Jackson starts 551 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: her world to good writing device. But I was like, 552 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: I actually, okay, I actually knew it was Sarah because 553 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: he said she was Annie, and I knew that she 554 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: was Annie on Broadway like a good gay but I 555 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: saw this kind of game. But also it was also 556 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: she's from Ohio too, and she's being so her Okay wait, 557 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: so go to page twenty five. So they're having this 558 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: like like diner date to talk about this movie they're 559 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna work on, and he Broblo really brings his like 560 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: fifteen year old girlfriend and he doesn't get it, and 561 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: he's like I was. He didn't like her. His agent 562 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: was like, I want you to meet this girl. As 563 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: we say goodbye, Sarah takes my arm. Will you do 564 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: this forever? You think? Do what forever? Acting silly I 565 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope, so what about you? It's what 566 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: I love, she says, her eyes glowing with sweet intensity. 567 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: I hope I can do it forever. She says this 568 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: with a lemonit tea that's so honest that it moves me, 569 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: or at least until I'm an adult. We hug goodbye 570 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: as my agent drives her away. I wonder if I'll 571 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: ever see her again. And then blah blah blah. Twenty 572 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: one years later, I'm throbing Sarah. Justica Parker wins an 573 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: emity for her smash Texan City, but just her going 574 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: acting silly, it's so her. Also nothing and also or 575 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: then like grabbing someone's arm, being like, wait, do you 576 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: think we'll do this forever? And just like the um, 577 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: it's forever what I love. It's just like her that 578 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: like wistfulness. No, it's exo, it's rabbit, rabbit, it's what 579 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: I love. It's and she's tossing her big curly you 580 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: know her curls, acting silly, waves, maybe skips a little, 581 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: she's in leg warmers. Yeah, gets back and was like 582 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: in this car waiting outside the diner. Well, these like 583 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: fifteen year olds like have a weird lunch. Um, Okay, 584 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I love these windows. I guess I'll just say this 585 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: book is so active because he's actually just never revealing 586 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: the actual details. The way he doesn't describe sex is 587 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: so annoying. I know what, people thank you applause people 588 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: when they're and this is not an insult to any 589 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: of the people who recommended it as like this celestious 590 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood book. It's like it's kind of just like film 591 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: actor Nerd celestious. It's literally just being like and that's 592 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: how freaking you know Bernie Bilstein directed directed, Like Yeah, 593 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: it's just so fucking unclear because I just like can't 594 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: tell how actually sexually is. And he's like, I was 595 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: out of control. And then he has this whole romance 596 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: with um the Princess of Monaco, Princess of Domini, and 597 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: he's like, we were getting up at noon and then 598 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: staying out in the nightclubs in Paris till five. But again, 599 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: it's like not describing sex. It's like Jenna Seckinson describes 600 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: how big everyone's penis is, Jennifer Lewis subscribes how big 601 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: everyone's penis is. Can he even DEMI is like we 602 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: have this three sim He's like he was like things 603 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: were crazy, and like this whole book is also like 604 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: framed around his sobriety, and it's like again in this 605 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: like really Hollywood way where he's like things weren't Yeah, 606 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: He's like things were literally out of control. Vodka tonics dinner. No, 607 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I know, and I'm just and then I actually started 608 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: working out in the morning with this guy who was shot, 609 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: and You're like it's just like even no, the whole 610 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: like descent into alcoholism. I'm kind of just like, okay, 611 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I was going out with my 612 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: boys and having tequila, and you're kind of like it's 613 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: giving normal normal, and like, sorry, alcoholism is a disease. 614 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: I know it's a disase. I'm not trying to normalize 615 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: excessive consumption, but I'm just being like, where was the 616 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: Like he was like I had hit rock bottom, like 617 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: I was hungover, and I'm a little bit like this 618 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: is just a hangover, Like where's the actually like us 619 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: going to promise it's in Arizona. No, I don't know. 620 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure his rock bottom is his Munchausen. Mom calls 621 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: him and is like leaving a voicemail in nineties and 622 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: just like your grandfatherhood a heart attack and he has 623 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is low. He has more tequila so 624 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: he can go to sleep so he can wake up. 625 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: That that's low totally. But it's also just like that 626 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: feels like that sometimes happens, and that's like a really 627 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: bad moment that happened. It's like it's not like it's 628 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: like you were losing jobs and like you like you know, 629 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: had like lost or gained a lot of weight and 630 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: were like the doctor whistle and you were dying and 631 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: like handling all your friends and we're going crazy in public. 632 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: It's like that's the kind of alcoholic descent that we've 633 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: seen literally every other story gooster we have like right, 634 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: and obviously alcoholism couldn't look like no you can, you 635 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: can privately stroke anything. But I was just like, yeah, struggle, 636 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm not even seeing the private struggle. No, no, I no. 637 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: It was like let us in more. That was the 638 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: thing he was like. And then the other thing that 639 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: was like when he keeps on being like leading up 640 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: to this moment, He's like, soon my private life would 641 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: like go up in flames. And it was that like 642 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: he was dating his wife who's still his wife, and 643 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: like she broke up with him for a few weeks 644 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: when she heard a girl on the like when she 645 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: called him in the background. Right, Oh, he had a 646 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: sense tape, which I'm still like unclear of whose. Yeah, again, 647 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: everything is so unclear, and it's just like, I mean 648 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: even the okay, Like, this is what I knew this 649 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: book was not going to be satisfying. And he's like 650 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: with that random girl on Paradise Cove and he's like 651 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: a fourteen Yeah. Turns out it was her first time too, 652 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: So together on a moonlit beach, we crossed that wondrous, 653 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: anxiety filled rubicon, cutting away the last vestige of childhood. 654 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't in love, she wasn't even my girlfriend, but 655 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: she was kind, she was pretty, and she was my 656 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: good friend. I was too young to know how valuable 657 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: and rather combination is. But after that warm March night 658 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: in Paradise Cove, I was on the road to finding out. 659 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: It's just like it's the literary equivalent of just like 660 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: zooming out and showing the curtain every I mean, he 661 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: is an eighties star, so it literally is saxophone woman 662 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: undressing life to Japanese screen and then like sheets and 663 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: a woman being like oh yeah, and then like cut 664 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: to the next day, and the only thing way he 665 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: ever describes a woman is like beautiful blue eyes, like blonde? 666 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: Can I read? Also, the closest he gets to the 667 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: most insane, cheesy sex scene, this is about him and 668 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: his wife. He's at Sting's house. We walked to Stonehenge, 669 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: which is practically in the backyard. Pavarotti drops by, and 670 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: he and Sting recorded duet of Panis Angelicus for a 671 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: new album. The recording studio in the converted chapel of 672 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: the ancient home is filled with two the most heavenly 673 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: voices of the twentieth century. In fact, as Luciano hits 674 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: the high notes of the Aria, both Sting and I 675 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: weep in spite of ourselves. The next day, Cheryl and 676 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: I are wowed again, as Sting records, if I ever 677 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: lose my faith in you, his voice strong and high 678 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: and clear as a bell. After a glorious dinner in 679 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: front of the fireplace more than five hundred years old, 680 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Cheryl and I retire to our room. The night was 681 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: an occasion to remember, and as it turned out, we 682 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: always would. Nine months later, our first son, Matthew Edward 683 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: Lowe was born. It's like nothing could be more the 684 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: phrase making love than that. It's like sorry, you and 685 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: sting weeping at Poveratti singing, and then you and your 686 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: beautiful wife of twenty two years you conceive it was 687 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: a night to remember. It's just like you fucking pansy 688 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: ass a little bitch, give us anything. Okay, wait, this 689 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: is that the airplane scene with the like stewardess on 690 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: the flight home. I have what is to be the 691 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: first and a long series of lessons about the temptations 692 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: of actresses. Although Corey's waiting back in malibus, he's like sixteen. 693 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: The excitement and glamor of the unfolding romantic drama in 694 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: the first class cabin quickly overpower my fifteen year old 695 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: male willpower. What happens on the plane isn't anywhere near 696 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Erica Jong territory, No idea what that's about. But I'm 697 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: definitely not going to be sharing any traveling stories with 698 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: my girlfriend. That's it. That's all we got that. I 699 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: was like, I screamed at that paragraph. I was like, 700 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: are you serious? Nothing? Just absolutely so. I'm just like 701 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: assuming this is a mile high or a mile high 702 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: hand job. Yeah, I was a hand jup under a 703 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: blanket or like in bathroom. Either way, he's not telling us. 704 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: It's just like, don't be I mean, I guess it's like, okay, 705 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, all these celebrity memores have to be so 706 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: like revealing and getting to the core and of so 707 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: much psychoanalysis and then like so much like brutal pain. 708 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: And I guess, like I like that he's not being 709 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: so okay. I have to, like, you know, pour my 710 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: heart out to you. And it's like I don't need 711 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: you to pour you a heart out, but I just 712 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: needs a little bit of color, you know. Yeah, it's 713 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of like filled with all these vivid like stories. 714 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: In someplace it does get page churney. But yeah, it's 715 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: like there's a wall. There's a wall up. And it's 716 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: like he does talk about his mother's I mean, the 717 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: close he goes when he was like I get triggered 718 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: by Pj's yea to this day because of my mom. 719 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: Because of my mom just like being tired and sick 720 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: in Pj's and like weirdly writing her journal for like 721 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: six hours a day. I wish I I have this page. 722 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: But he talks about how like someone was quote unquote 723 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: like he's like, has this whole page where he's like, 724 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, if you ever hear about a 725 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: star being like quote unquote a diva on set, it's 726 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: only for two reasons. He was like, One, they have 727 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: an alcohol problem or like ornamental break. Two like every 728 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: single direction when you're a movie star people, it was 729 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: very well as me, like people are trying to get 730 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: something from you. I've worked with the biggest stars, Brad Pitt, 731 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner, and they are the classiest people on set. 732 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: We also had the thing where he was like, I 733 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: feel like some you know, this reminds me of the 734 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: scene where he was like, you take on a role 735 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: and it becomes a part of you. And for him, 736 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: like Saint almost Fire was that because he got to 737 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: be like, finally got to be the Chad, finally got 738 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: to be like the popular guy. And he was like 739 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be this like slick ladies man, 740 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: like playboy forever. And then I was like, it reminded 741 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: me of a tweet from no Friend of the Pot 742 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: Church was once like I feel like Jennifer Garner went 743 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: into character for catching release and never came out because 744 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: she was in this like weird Christian movie and like 745 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: oh eight and it's just like she's been in this 746 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: weird Christian place ever since. And now she's so just 747 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: like I have my farm company and like only makes 748 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: like the weirdest like positive movies only like actually like 749 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: sponsored by like weird Christian like sponsored by churches. And 750 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: like her baking videos. I don't know if you ever 751 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: watched them. Of course it's um where she's just pretend 752 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: cooking show and she's been so like oh oops, she's 753 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: always feeling like oops, I'm a mass and it's like 754 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of flower, a little bit of flower 755 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: of absolutely massive, like marble kitchen with eighteen islands. By 756 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: the way, I randomly made b banana bread this morning. 757 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: Just doesn't it fly? I what you just got up 758 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: and you were like, morning banana bread for my seven boys? Um, 759 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: I feel like it's so TikTok, Like oh yeah, and 760 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: that's what add looks because I have like thirty more 761 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: pages of like the book Treen and I was like, 762 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: what if it's dead, I'm super random and may and 763 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: banana breham um okay. Other scenes I want to get to. 764 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's a lot of like other 765 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: celebrities when he like Daryl Hannah reveals she's a virgin whatever. 766 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: M Yeah, the scene with Andy Warhol was kind of 767 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: haunting and sad in this way that every story of 768 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: Andy Warhall is when they like all go to a 769 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: restaurant and they're all like drawing and oh no, it 770 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: was so like weirdly mentioned gay guy where he was like, 771 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: let's all draw pussy and like and like everyone get 772 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: out of crayon, and so it's just like Andy and 773 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: Rob and who's the woman. It's like some like start 774 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: some like debutante or whatever of the day, and they're 775 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: like at some cafe by Central Park, and like Rob 776 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: Low draws like a really photorealistic vagina, and then Andy 777 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: Warhall's drawn a cat and he's like a little cat. 778 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: Now that's a pussy, And it's just like there's something 779 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: really childish and creepy about the whole thing, and I'm 780 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: just like, yeah's Michael Jackson vibes like I have like 781 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: some people just around me at all times. Another really 782 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: sad hunting moment that I laughed at because I love 783 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: him so much, but it was really sad. Where he 784 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: talks about going out to dinner with Chris Farley. Oh, 785 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: that was a great little thing about Chris Farley. Yeah, yeah, 786 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: he was. Not surprisingly, Chris's a guy of huge appetites. 787 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: The man has a shot of espresso before every close up, 788 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: which I'm obsessed with, not before every scene, but every take. 789 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: And so I shouldn't be taken back by his ordered 790 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: or dinner, but his spade and I stare and disbelieve. 791 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Farley eats two giant Porterhouse steaks on the table of 792 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: those old school iced individual squares of butter. Chris plays 793 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: an entire square on top of each bite in both 794 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: of his stakes. Finally, I can take more, No more, Chris? 795 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: What the hell I say is? He places another cube 796 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: on top of another mouthful. He giggles like a baby. 797 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: It needs a hat. I mean, that's funny and it's 798 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: really sad, And that's also so the meal that killed 799 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: James Gentilfoenie, the two Chrenes, and Foi Gron the peuge 800 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: Layer jop This. I thought, this part is very, very 801 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: perceptive about Chris Farley. Unfortunately for Chris, he's unable to 802 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: develop the muscle needed to say no to those who 803 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: want him to remain the funny fat Goof, and even 804 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: though the concept of the movie makes him feel debased, 805 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: he takes the fat goof role in Beverly Hills Ninja 806 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 1: for a Fortune and it's never the same. Within a year, 807 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: he will go like his idol, Jim Belushi, dead from 808 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: a drug overdose at the age of thirty three. For me, 809 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: it's a stark lesson that if you can't get honest 810 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: with yourself, if you can't look yourself in the mirror, 811 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: no matter how much money they pay you, you are 812 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: literally putting your life at risk. I'm like, oh god, 813 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a combo of things, but I'm like, 814 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Farley is my favorite actor. It's just 815 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: he had to be the fat clown. He had to consume, consume, consume, 816 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: that's what people wanted from him, and so he played 817 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: that to do it more and on and off screen, 818 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: and of course, like he became an obese drug addict, 819 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: and it's just like and it's like Roblo saying that 820 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: it's been like and for me, I had to be 821 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: like this hot catalog guy and it's like, yeah, not 822 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: as dangerous for your health. No, I know in him, 823 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: it's like he is just being kind of like clearly 824 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: like fit callie guy, where he's like Chris, like, please 825 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: stop with the butter. Wait. And then I read this 826 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: on IMDb, this insane story about the flaming of Tommy 827 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: Boy where Rob Blow and David Spade like go out 828 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: one night during shooting and Chris Farley is like so 829 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: jealous because Chris Farley like had to stay in that 830 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: he like the entire day of filming. He to David Spade, 831 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: He's like, how is Rob Blow? How is Rob Blow? 832 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: And I was like this is so us and then 833 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: he like starts beating up David Spade like, wait, said 834 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: Rob Blow does no Chris Chris Farley? Could he so 835 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: pissed that he hung out with Rob Yeah? Wow, Like 836 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't invited. I mean, we are so David Spade 837 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: and Chris Farley to Tommy Boy, Yeah, black sheep, um, 838 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: Tommy folks, Okay, a couple of other things. Well, that's 839 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: very that's very His rival with Michael J. Fox, who 840 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: like wanted to be in the brat pack so much 841 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: and like he was like, we had an awesome masculine 842 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 1: fun boys rivalry full of good hearted like good natured 843 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: ribbing and a ton of gassing up but also ribbing, 844 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: but tons of respect but joshing. So that was another 845 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: non story where Michael J. Fox has a party, Roblo 846 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: goes over and then like goes to bed at some 847 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: point and then he sinks Michael J. Fox's dog grows 848 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: up by him, but it's actually Michael J. Fox. Yeah, 849 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: and like and then the morning, the assistant is like, 850 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: what's going on? Is like the story that they thought 851 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: they were, like the assistant thought they were like being 852 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: gay with each other. It was just like Roblo was like, 853 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: I had to I ran out of embarrassment. Yeah. And 854 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: then they went on like a six city tour to 855 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: like to like like promoted Drinking Water act because he's 856 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: actually gone yeah, and he's like, and this is when 857 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: I learned the power of celebrity to change politics. This 858 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: is why the Democrats lost in twenty six. Yeah, he's 859 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: like Jane Fonda, whoopee, Michael J. Fox and John Cena 860 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 1: the whole house. You're like, and he was like, and 861 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: I will say more on Hollywood activism, and it's like, 862 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: maybe say least says oh, Ever that was funny. I 863 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: guess like he this is of course in his like 864 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: low point where he like is fucking some c Span 865 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: check or some like secretary of some governor and like 866 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: he at some like Paul like Ducacas fundraiser, Like he 867 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: walks by with her and Sally Field whispers, what the 868 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: fuck to him? Sally Field, Yes, Mama call him out. 869 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean yes, Sally Field his mother. She is mother. Um. Also, 870 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: of course, will we ever read a book that doesn't 871 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: have a nine to eleven scene? No? Oh yeah, I know, 872 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: And of course the book ends with nine to eleven. 873 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: He's like, and George W. Bush gave an amazing speech, 874 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: and he's like and he was on like the test flight, 875 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: so he was always flying like American Airlines flight eleven 876 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: or whatever from like New York to la and like 877 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: that the terrorists took to like just do a test 878 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: run of like being on a plane. And he was 879 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: like and then like Mussawi, like one of the Osama 880 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: bin Laden guys like names Roblo is like a witness 881 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: or something in his trial, and he was like, oh, 882 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm not testifying like in this rob but the point 883 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 1: where he was like, but tell the boys at Justice. 884 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: I'll give them whatever they need, just like referring to 885 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: the DJ as the boys at Justice, I'm like, you 886 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: are so dread You're absolutely insane. You literally you think 887 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: you actually work in the White House. Being like at 888 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: the other book, he's like, I didn't act to become 889 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: famous or make money. Yet obviously the entire book he's 890 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: always talking about how he's like about to leave because 891 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: his agent like didn't get him enough money for Tommy Boy. Yeah, 892 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: and then he's like politics like that, like that's the 893 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: true through rock stars. It is. It is honestly somewhat insufferable. Um, 894 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: but you know, I appreciate that he really did interact 895 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: with so many different people over the course of his career, 896 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: and you know there's a real arc here, and he 897 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: really saw a lot of eras of Hollywood. And yet 898 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like was there a Yeah, it's 899 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 1: like getting all these stories. Yet at the end when 900 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: we're back at the George photo shoot and like it's 901 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 1: all I was intrigued why he never got a raise 902 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: at West Wing, which is like the last story of 903 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: the book. Yeah, and then he leaves after four seasons 904 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: and like Martin Sheen gets raised and everyone else on 905 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: the show gets a raised, and like he's always being 906 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: shut out of it. I guess I imagine that was 907 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: he probably not the highest paid to begin with, because 908 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: he was kind of the most famous at the start 909 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: besides Martin Sheen. That's also what I assumed, like he 910 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: already like they were all like so low paid. Yea. 911 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: They gave him like a big deal at the beginning, 912 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: and we're like, well, we're not going to go up, yeah, 913 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: And so they started to just increase everyone else's It 914 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: seems like not something to be them out about, considering 915 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: how much like a glades he got from that, I mean, 916 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: which he keeps on trying to convince us. He was like, 917 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: I didn't I did it for the role. Can you 918 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 1: believe I took a fifty percent pay cut the most, 919 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: Like I thought, the beginning of the book was probably 920 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: the strongest, and like some of his the way that 921 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: he describes the world of Hollywood did feel a little 922 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: bit like it was interesting that like they did live 923 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: down the street from the machines, and like there was 924 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: this kind of familiarity to it, and like you're seeing 925 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: the seeing people at additions, which is also like a 926 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: thread that we saw in you know, Lea Ramini's book, 927 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: and right, it's about seeing like Leia with Courtney Cox, 928 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: with these people. It's about being like, oh, it's s JP, 929 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: it's Amilio Estevez, like it's Demi Moore, Like yeah, I 930 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: would say the part of the book that was the 931 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: best part was like when he's talking about filming the 932 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: Outsiders and like kind of hanging out with the brat 933 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: prak Pack and his childhood of like all the fucked 934 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: up stories of like everyone who was like stabbing their Yeah, 935 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: that I ACTO thought that was quite eliminating, Like his 936 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of diagnosis of Malibu as as like a counterculture 937 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: place that ultimately like catches up to itself and the 938 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: sort of the darkness of being on the outskirts of 939 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: society means that like there isn't like supervision, and there 940 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: isn't like an institutional like culture that's binding people together 941 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: and providing a sense of security. So this is like 942 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: he talked about all the kids who like randomly die 943 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: in his hometown or not hometo in Malibu where they 944 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: moved when he was later the ranks of the Lost 945 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: Boys in Malibu grew at a study rate. Shane, the 946 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: sweet goofy kid from my Woodchub class, but home one day, 947 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: snorted rat poison thinking it was cocaine and died instantly. Sam, 948 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: a young kid from Point Doom, lost control of his 949 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: ten speed on the way home from school and impaled 950 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: his head on a tree. He bled to death hanging 951 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: from the trunk of a eucalyptus on bosnel drive. An 952 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: older kid at school dropped out, suddenly moved away entirely. 953 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: We later learned his dark story. Hitchhiking on the Pacific 954 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: Coast Highway. He had been picked up by a man, 955 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: driven to a remote canyon, tied to a tree, naked, 956 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: and had his pubic hair plucked out one by one 957 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: with tweezers. There was also my brother Micah's friend, the 958 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: animal lover, scuba diving at night with his girlfriend. He 959 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: decided to rescue lobsters from a lobster trap. He got 960 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: his hand caught in the mechanism and eventually ran out 961 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 1: of air sixty people at the surface while his girlfriend 962 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: struggled unsuccessfully to release him. And there was my buddy Tony, 963 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: who heard a gunshot from a garage and Malibu and 964 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: rushed inside to investigate. He found a high school kid 965 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,240 Speaker 1: his intestines hanging out from his self inflicted shotgun blast. 966 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: Within a few years, my friend Tony would be dead 967 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: too from a weird new cancer. Would be another few 968 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: years before they figured out what to call it. Sadly, 969 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: aids was a round way before the death of Rock Hudson. 970 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, insane, nay chilian two paragraphs. That was 971 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: so chilling, And I do think it's this thing that 972 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: you hear gen xers talking about, is like how they 973 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: were the generation that was running around and like dying 974 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: and like getting killed by serial killers, which is I 975 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: think why Also gen x ushered in like helicopter parenting 976 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: THATBC today that is yes, yes, Hey club kids, you're 977 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: about to hear a clip of this week's vip lounge. 978 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: Hear all about it Patreon, dot com, slash CBC the pod. 979 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: It's my anniversary of knowing what web three is. And 980 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: a gay guy told me to buy get on the 981 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: pay six hundred dollars, get on the waiting list for 982 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: the router, and he was like, I have one at 983 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: my house. I have one at my sister's house, and 984 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: I have one of my mother's house, and I make 985 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars a month passive revenue from my web 986 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: three routers. This is not that's literally not what web 987 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: three is. Well, yeah, I mean I still don't really know. 988 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 1: I kind of the anniversary if you subscribe on patreon 989 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash CBC the Pod to get more content 990 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: like that every single week for only five dollars a month. 991 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: Segments What does she eat? How does she live? Does 992 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: she live? I mean, what does she eat? I feel 993 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: like he's just so macro like California cooking avocado quinoa 994 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 1: to me, like fresh salmon, Like I feel like Cheryl 995 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: is making like a miso salmon. Yeah. I think he's 996 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: watching his way to think he has a trainer. Yeah, 997 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: and um, he's obviously aghast at like someone who's having 998 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: two steaks and like is a lot at night? Um, 999 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean he is, Yeah, and he's sober as we know. 1000 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: And yeah it's fresh Santa Barbara homestyle cooking salads salmon. Um, 1001 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: what does he wear? I mean? Yeah, he's so like 1002 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: tight new Western shirt. Distress's so like Ryan Seacrest for me, 1003 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: is like he's just like the most like Good Morning 1004 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: America style where he's always going to be so cataloged, 1005 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: care like and so just like paper dunamon cloth and 1006 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: like good fitting clothes in like great like naturals and 1007 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: neutrals and blues and whites, blues and whites, and I 1008 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 1: feel like maybe like he has a few like he's 1009 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 1: thin Henley casual around the house, like he's tiny buttons, 1010 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: and like I don't think he has like a Laura 1011 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: Piana like um suade shacket. I think he has like 1012 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: a cheaper version of a Laura Piana swade jock. He 1013 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: would buy Laura Piano. I think that he's sensible, like yeah, 1014 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's just more memorial classic 1015 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: like Ralph Laurenz sweet. Yeah, that's why I'm saying. I 1016 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: think that he's just like not the expensive version because 1017 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: he's like that seems like a little bit of an indulgence. 1018 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm saving for John A Ween, I'm saving 1019 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: for John Owen's college weeen, and I don't want to 1020 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I think it's pretty customs surfboard and 1021 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 1: like saving the water. He definitely is an awesome custom surfboard. Yeah, 1022 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: I feel like he would get it. Wait, do you 1023 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: you know Rachel Lord, right, Well, that's why I was 1024 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: thinking of that. I feel like we heard about the 1025 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: custom for Glennon. I feel like she made him a 1026 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: custom surfboard friend of the hot Rachel Lord. Um, how 1027 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: does she live? Yeah? I feel like it's California rustic, 1028 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 1: Like he lives in Santa Barbara to like get away 1029 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: from Hollywood. And I think it's like, oh, because he 1030 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: loves Santa Barbo. That's what's also so nerdy and old 1031 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: about him. It's like Santa Barbara's so eighty five. Well 1032 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: that's what you know when he says in the book, 1033 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: he's like, Yeah, everyone who lives there's old. Did I care? No? 1034 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: Did I know anyone there? No? That's also so man 1035 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: too to be like I don't care. I'm taking my 1036 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: wife to this weird town where we know, don't know anyone. Yeah, 1037 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: and they just like play backgammon every night losers. Okay. Um, look, 1038 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm actually in a of a rating I don't usually give. Yes, 1039 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: I did read this book in the day and it 1040 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: was a page turner, but something gave me a bad 1041 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: feeling about it, and I'm giving it honestly, two surfboards 1042 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: out of five. Wow. But it's also is a lot 1043 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: better than some of the books we read. But I 1044 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: think in terms of this big Hollywood book, as I 1045 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: was saying, like, I'm just like, there's walls up and 1046 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: it's Reporting for Duty as a really vulnerable book. Yeah, 1047 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. That is the that's so accurate. 1048 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: It's literally Reporting for Duty as a vulnerable memoir and 1049 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: it's not that vulnerable. It's simply not. I'm gonna I 1050 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: will give it like three canceled sitcoms about a plots 1051 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: instructor who solves crimes out of five only because I 1052 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: did appreciate some of the writing. In some places it 1053 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: felt I agree. I did also appreciate writing. And I 1054 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: also think this is an amazing gift for the man 1055 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: in your life for Christmas. Yeah, or Hanukkah or whatever 1056 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: you or do Wally or wherever you do Rome and celebrate. 1057 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: Oh wait, who are you in the book? Should? I say? 1058 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: Am I Chris Farley? Well you've already outlived him, so congrats. 1059 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. You know to do eat silly things 1060 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: for laughs? Um yeah, you literally had a sub theme. 1061 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean wow, I mean you're not you are not 1062 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise but you're not not Tom Cruise at fifteen 1063 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: you would call your agent and be like, I'm not 1064 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sharing a room like you get Chewbat. I'm 1065 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: Kuran the girlfriend. I think you're being like acting silly, 1066 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: acting silly. Um yeah, fair enough, Um, okay, well this 1067 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: was an amazing book, kind of amazing. I'm so glad 1068 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: we find he did the thank you to everyone who recommended. 1069 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: Thanks truly, thank you, and keep those we love them. 1070 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: We love to keep our piggies happy. Um, Lily, I 1071 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: can't wait to get into the VAP line with you 1072 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: and talk about make it to Miami and your wild 1073 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: weekend gingers. Yeah, let's let's get into it. Um all right, Okay, 1074 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: well beast so you guys. Thanks week. 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