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Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. People know that the reason

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Speaker 1: I do what I do about confidence and making people

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Speaker 1: feel better is probably because of all the things that

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Speaker 1: I felt. When I was a kid. I used makeup

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Speaker 1: as a way to make myself feel pretty, and it

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Speaker 1: took me a long time to realize that I was

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Speaker 1: actually pretty as a kid, and I wasted a lot

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Speaker 1: of time and energy. But I've also been someone that

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Speaker 1: has struggled with my weight. And no I'm not heavy.

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Speaker 1: I was thirty pounds heavier when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I have been on every diet, I fragged out how

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Speaker 1: to lose all the weight, and as I got older,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm three kids. I've made three babies in

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Speaker 1: this body. But I've also been on TV. I have been,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically sitting in the front row fashion Week,

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Speaker 1: if not behind. And I've just always dealt with how

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Speaker 1: I felt in my clothes. And when I was thin,

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Speaker 1: at my thinnest, which could be five to ten pounds,

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Speaker 1: I felt like a rock star. And when I was

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Speaker 1: at my heaviest, which was five to ten pounds heavier,

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Speaker 1: I just always felt and I still feel just not

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Speaker 1: comfortable in my skin. So I just feel better, leaner,

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Speaker 1: but I also can't seem to get there because I

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Speaker 1: really like to eat, I like to go out, and

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Speaker 1: I like to have fun. So I'm really excited about

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Speaker 1: talking to Lawrence Layton, who has a company that helps

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Speaker 1: people figure out what to eat and how to lose weight.

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Speaker 1: It's called Food Trainers. And you know, she's my go

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Speaker 1: to person because she understands that it's normal to go

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Speaker 1: to parties, it's normal to travel, it's normal to want

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Speaker 1: to drink, and how do you drink? Like so many

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Speaker 1: people will say, Okay, well you can go on this

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Speaker 1: one cleansing program, give yourself a week or two weeks

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Speaker 1: when you're not going anywhere. I'm like, well that will

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Speaker 1: never happen because I do go out and I am,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty normal, and you know you want to

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Speaker 1: go out and you want to enjoy your life. Here's

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Speaker 1: my conversation with Laurence Slayton. All right, Lauren, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with some icebreaker questions. What's the last thing you

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Speaker 1: eat today? Um, chocolate chocolate? What kind of chocolate from

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Speaker 1: home from Hugh Kitchen? Chocolate mint? Always chocolate mint How

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Speaker 1: many pieces did you eat? I had two squares to

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Speaker 1: the little squares, Yes, okay, did you have a whole

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Speaker 1: bar because the squares are little? Yeah, that's not a lot.

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Speaker 1: So did you have the whole barn? You can control yourself.

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Speaker 1: I did. Okay. What's your go to cocktail? Uh? Just one? Um?

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Speaker 1: Usually it's mescal. Um. I don't like do like a

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Speaker 1: mixed drink if I'm out, but I like to do

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Speaker 1: a little mixing when I'm home. So it's usually lime juice, mescal,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of like um, like a combier or

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Speaker 1: an orange liqueur at like it's like less than half

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Speaker 1: and I make small drinks to my husband complains, um,

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Speaker 1: because you'd like to have to know I have one.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like you know, I do. I do

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Speaker 1: have a little sweetness. It's not just you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of straight. But I'm one and done. Um. What's the

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Speaker 1: last workout you did? Um? I did. I didn't work

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Speaker 1: out today. I did a run yesterday. How many miles

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Speaker 1: four miles? You stretch before and after? I don't ever

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Speaker 1: stretch before I am now you know, in recent years,

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Speaker 1: stretching after what's your last food splurge? I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: I do good, good versions of splurges often, but good

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Speaker 1: Um Gluten Free Bakery opened near office and I went

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Speaker 1: I did on Saturday, and they had Um gluten free pizza,

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Speaker 1: flower it out? They do? It's a good question. They

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Speaker 1: do a mix of quinoa nillet, like a worthwhile worthy flower.

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Speaker 1: Because I've been really into the grain free products. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on green free versus? There's um pagels.

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Speaker 1: of here. We're very good. Um you get them online pagels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're great. They're they're they're made with almond flower. They

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Speaker 1: I find is that, like, I love a lot of

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Speaker 1: those products, but they they're fattening. Women have them too often. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think these icebreakers are turning into an interview. What's

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Speaker 1: the last restaurant meal you ordered? Sushi? I think? So

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Speaker 1: what's your sushi order? Your personal one. I'll do like

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Speaker 1: I love black rice. Um, but not a lot. All right,

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Speaker 1: so let's get down to the meat of this, because

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Speaker 1: the start. How how long have you had food trainers?

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Speaker 1: I always can date it by my son. I was

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Speaker 1: it will be eighteen years. Well that you started food trainers,

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Speaker 1: like science. So I became and then I was going

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Speaker 1: to take my MCATs and had my panic attack, which

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Speaker 1: is the Universalistina. That's not a good sign with like

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Speaker 1: your future career and where did you go to school?

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Speaker 1: I went to Land for college. I took like a

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Speaker 1: two credit course in nutrition. It was offered in the

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Speaker 1: And I was like enthralled. But it was like nutrition

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Speaker 1: hadn't you know, sort of morphed into something that people

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Speaker 1: so how did it evolve? So I finished graduate school,

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Speaker 1: it's not just about losing that last couple of pounds

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Speaker 1: they have like actual health issues that they can't figure out,

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Speaker 1: whether it's their skin or their good or something. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And I think oftentimes people come for one thing and

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Speaker 1: then they're you know, they sort of mentioned in passing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm taking this medication for this, and and then

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Speaker 1: you there are things that can be remedied by diet,

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Speaker 1: but you know, a lot of gut issues or skin

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Speaker 1: I love your advice. And I've got so many people

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Speaker 1: in my life that give me advice that I've you know,

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Speaker 1: matter what, I always go to you for the truth.

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Speaker 1: So you're the one I think of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're not saying, well, you've got to stay home and

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Speaker 1: not eat out, you can't have a drink, you can't

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Speaker 1: do this, like you're so much about real life. And

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Speaker 1: I really, you know, admire you for that. But the

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Speaker 1: question is why why am I always hungry? Like, like,

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Speaker 1: I am a health food fanatic. I went to school,

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Speaker 1: I got my degree as a health coach. I really healthy,

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Speaker 1: but I don't eat things that fill me up for hours.

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Speaker 1: And is this Have you always been like a hungry person?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think I've always been a

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Speaker 1: think first, if somebody says they're always hungry, I'd like

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Speaker 1: I sleep easily eight hours a night. I have no problem.

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Speaker 1: That's that's you're in the minority. Yeah, I know, I am.

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Speaker 1: when you say hunger, um, we were when we were

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Speaker 1: So you're kind of like a therapist. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: really it's hard to talk about food without really, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of getting into it, you know, and I think

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Speaker 1: you get into what somebody has done diet wise, what

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of where they are in terms of confidence. Uh,

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Speaker 1: is there anything you struggle with personally? I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: just like like a anxious you know, a person who's

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Speaker 1: like head is always going and always thinking and always

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Speaker 1: overthinking and you know sort of so shutting that off

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Speaker 1: is actually you know, I think I drink you said,

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Speaker 1: I came to talk to them, like, Okay, four CBD

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Speaker 1: gummies last night. Do those work? They don't work for

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Speaker 1: me CBDs individual, but like they work for me really,

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Speaker 1: which I mean I think the two best and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of crap in terms of CBD, the two

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Speaker 1: best companies and I haven't tried everything are Lord Jones

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Speaker 1: and Wildflower. Lord Jones is so pretty, so freaking expensive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but um and Lord Jones and Wildflower does like a

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Speaker 1: tincture that works really well because you can like go

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Speaker 1: up and down. But I think that about I forget

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Speaker 1: what the figure is, but like there's fifty percent of

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Speaker 1: people CBD doesn't really does CBD for you? Does like

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Speaker 1: one or two Lord Jones gummies calm you down? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I have like a whole little repertoire, Like

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Speaker 1: I have magnesium and I have CBD calm. I take

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Speaker 1: Holmes at night. Yeah, that's really good. That's got magnesium. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I think that like when I like cocktail up

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Speaker 1: a few of the relaxing things. But I think there's

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Speaker 1: not like a person or a person in like a

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Speaker 1: health profession who like checks off every box. Even when

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Speaker 1: we we do a program, we do a program a

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Speaker 1: few times a year that's like our it's one week

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Speaker 1: and it's like a little more strict and we do

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Speaker 1: it in the office along with everybody, and we're like wow,

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Speaker 1: like when you're sleeping and you know, cooking all your

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Speaker 1: like it works, you know. But nobody puts everything together

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Speaker 1: every week. So now it's it's we're all here on

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Speaker 1: a journey. So what do you think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: those of us that are always trying to lose that

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Speaker 1: last five or ten pounds, Like, well, how do you

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Speaker 1: do it? Number one? And what is going on? Why

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Speaker 1: is it such a big deal? Well, I I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think like I always I hear that a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I always questioned some I think like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, it's a lot of healthy people. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not like I can't lose the last five pounds, but

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Speaker 1: it's that we all have a range like one weight

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Speaker 1: if you're going on a beach vacation or a reunion,

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Speaker 1: and another weight like if you're in a turtleneck in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the winter. You know. So I think

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Speaker 1: that and we all know that getting towards the lower

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Speaker 1: end of our range, if it is five pounds or

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Speaker 1: ten pounds, means less carbs and you know, more exercise

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Speaker 1: and really sort of like dotting all your eyes. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of especially females, like you know,

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Speaker 1: nothing works for me, or I can't lose the last

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Speaker 1: five pounds or both. It's like it's this script that

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Speaker 1: we have like we have to flip, like some weeks

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Speaker 1: you have in a week and some weeks you have

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Speaker 1: like a C plus and and it's okay, but and

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Speaker 1: it's normal. And I think that nobody looks at their

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Speaker 1: exercise and it is like expects to have like a

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Speaker 1: perfect you know, great runs every day and you know

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Speaker 1: not you know, get through every spin class and feel fabulous.

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Speaker 1: We know, like some workouts are great and some you

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Speaker 1: just like check off. But with food, we don't. We

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Speaker 1: think we should like sort of be um more perfect

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Speaker 1: than I think we should be. And I think it

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Speaker 1: sets us all up to be like more imperfect than

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Speaker 1: we need to be too. And so do you subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the theory that it's calories and calories out? Does

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Speaker 1: anybody still subscribe to that? Most people? I want calorie

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Speaker 1: counting and skim everything to be nonfat, everything to be dead.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're yogurt is not zero percent not nothing

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Speaker 1: like skip the skim with every Yeah, for a bunch

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Speaker 1: of reasons. One, um, it's when you skim dairy this,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to gross you out. So when you skim dairy, um,

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Speaker 1: the process of skimming concentrates the androgens which are male hormones.

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Speaker 1: It's one reason why skim is um. They discovered that

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Speaker 1: when they saw that skim dairy was associated with increased

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Speaker 1: in fertility, so it also acne. That's why you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of skim dairy causes that. Um. But also

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Speaker 1: just like how satisfied are you if you have a

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Speaker 1: non fat Greek yogurt? Like I would be hungry and

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Speaker 1: I put blueberries and flax and chia and I'm okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you like doctor it up a little bit? I do,

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Speaker 1: But no, I think like the real shebang with everything,

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Speaker 1: and what about sweeteners, Like I'll usually put steve Via

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Speaker 1: on it because I try not to, you know, do

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Speaker 1: the whole glass semic thing. But Stevia's I mean it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at sweeteners, it's pretty good. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think stevia and monkfruit are both you know, ones

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Speaker 1: that you know are you're not a honey guy or

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Speaker 1: a molasses I mean I own I mean, am I

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Speaker 1: cooking for like you know, a sixteen year old? Or

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Speaker 1: like am I for yourself? Yeah? I mean I'll have

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Speaker 1: like some really good honey if I feel like I

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Speaker 1: have a sore throat or something like that. But I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not such a sweet person. I'm you have the

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Speaker 1: cheese conversation. Cheese is your thing? Yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 1: potato chips, potato chips, cheese. Which one would you grub?

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm just any anything like both both? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: like anything savory. And I love the crunch like I

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Speaker 1: I could eat like a chip. I just love that

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Speaker 1: crunch and my son loves that. I get them, I

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Speaker 1: like buy them and like look at them. The Martin's

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Speaker 1: Pretzels from the Farmer's Market has like a bowl, you know,

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Speaker 1: like if you ever want to you know, if you

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Speaker 1: ever want to feel at about your metabolism, like live

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Speaker 1: with teen boys, because I'm like it's just unbelievable. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, crunchy, salty, I love all of that and

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Speaker 1: we take that over like a candy in a second.

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Speaker 1: So what bars? Would you recommend people throwing their bags?

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Speaker 1: Or you anti bar? No? I mean I think in

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Speaker 1: any category there's like, you know, better options and um

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Speaker 1: and worse out. I think you don't want to do

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Speaker 1: a bar every day. If you can, it's just as

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Speaker 1: easy to you know, sort of throw um some nuts

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Speaker 1: in a container, etcetera. Um, really love a bar called

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Speaker 1: Yes Bar. Do you know those? I've seen it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're also around and they look kind of like a cookie,

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Speaker 1: so but really clean ingredients they do. Um, a maple

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Speaker 1: pecan that's really good if you like pecan pie, like

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Speaker 1: salty sweet. Um. A local bar called the Merit Bar.

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Speaker 1: Do you know those? They're fantastic. They're like, oh, they're

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Speaker 1: almost like fudge. They're at the dark chocolate based bar

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Speaker 1: with with nuts and plant protein. Their vegan one is

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Speaker 1: really good. Um. I think our X bars are good. Um.

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Speaker 1: Do you sell all of these on your site because

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Speaker 1: you have a really interesting curated grocery store. Basically yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Um. I mean it's like such a like

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Speaker 1: passion product. We will we will not sell things once

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Speaker 1: they get like once everybody can get in our X

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Speaker 1: bar at the airport. Um, we don't need to see

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Speaker 1: you know, they can get it on Amazon. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to give them the best price because we don't

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Speaker 1: buy in volume. But we'll sell like the small little

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Speaker 1: brands that we like and as really a convenience to clients.

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Speaker 1: And now it's kind of and and what was that

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Speaker 1: when I bought it? I bought it from you, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen it and I have bought it again. The

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Speaker 1: little jar. It's got espresso and almond butter in it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so good. Um, it's a brand called Caramelized.

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Speaker 1: They do yeah, really great nut butters. But that coffee

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Speaker 1: one is really good. So good, yeah, really good. You

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Speaker 1: were asking about breads or for another person, it's Chocolate's

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Speaker 1: like if you, I mean, do your research or we

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Speaker 1: can do your research for you, Like you really can

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Speaker 1: find good versions of You're not like we're not eating

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Speaker 1: like kale and like dried fish. You know, dry fish

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00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: good kale and good fish is good. So yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I think this notion of like what healthy is is

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Speaker 1: like off putting to some people, and it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: And for the people out there that are listening that

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Speaker 1: you know can't really afford your fees, they can't afford

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Speaker 1: your book. The book is great. What's the name of

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Speaker 1: the book, little little weight, A little bit little book

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Speaker 1: of them. But your book is still really great. So

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Speaker 1: what could people do Because a lot of the food

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Speaker 1: that we talked about, they're pretty pricey, and not everyone

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Speaker 1: you know has that kind of a budget. No, and

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Speaker 1: and that It's really important to me because you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: like we're one on one fees. That's not for everyone,

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Speaker 1: and what can we do for everyone? So the book,

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Speaker 1: the podcast, I think you know, social and not just

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Speaker 1: not me, but like I think people can get a

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Speaker 1: lot of good, um, you know, free information and yes

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Speaker 1: we talk about um, you know sort of the bars

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Speaker 1: and some you uh, these products and the pagals, but

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Speaker 1: like you can just as easily like roast some nuts

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Speaker 1: with like you know, something spicy or you know, maple

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Speaker 1: and make a batch of those. I think the best

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Speaker 1: thing people can do, like if money is an issue,

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Speaker 1: is to like just do it themselves a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You know, the smoothie I make at home, I think

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Speaker 1: I calculated at once. It's like, you know, three dollars

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Speaker 1: that same smoothie, you know if I add everything and

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Speaker 1: could be fifteen dollars at a smoothie place. So so

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Speaker 1: what goes into Laurence Layton smoothie. It depends. There's there's

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Speaker 1: a whole like cabinet of tricks. Tell me your favorite smoothie.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you. There's a I'll give you one that's good. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people like do a

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Speaker 1: lot of sweet things and smoothies, which is fine. I

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Speaker 1: love um to do a smoothie that I do with

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Speaker 1: usually some sort of collagen protein and like some sort

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Speaker 1: of a nut milk and I do um basil and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of lemon zest. It sounds really weird,

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Speaker 1: it's really weird. Now it's really it's it's really delicious.

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Speaker 1: But also I think chocolate protein, something like tahini, a

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Speaker 1: nut milk, um, like you know, a third of like

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Speaker 1: a greenish banana or something like that. UM can kind

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Speaker 1: of make you know, sort of a third of a

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Speaker 1: greenish banana junian one that's not yet right? Well, I well, bananas.

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Speaker 1: Bananas are a good question. So I think bananas as

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Speaker 1: they ripe and get sweeter. Um, so they're one of

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Speaker 1: the sweeter fruits. But they do wonders for a smoothie.

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Speaker 1: I think banana and also avocado kind of make the

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Speaker 1: difference in a smoothie. Is it a whole banana or

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Speaker 1: a half? And is it a half of avocado corn? Well,

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Speaker 1: you want to be careful with the avocado or you'll

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Speaker 1: taste it, which is not what you want. But it's

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Speaker 1: usually like I would say a couple of tablespoons of avocado,

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Speaker 1: or like I think, if you have a weight last goal,

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Speaker 1: half a banana. If you don't have a weight last goal,

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Speaker 1: you know, do a banana, do too bananas? You know

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I am so um excited to

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Speaker 1: get all this information, and yes I am hungry, and

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Speaker 1: I really can't wait to go home and make your movie.

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Speaker 1: But mostly just keep giving us that great advice. And

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Speaker 1: where could people that are listening find you Food Trainers

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Speaker 1: dot com and at food Trainers on Everything on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and Twitter, etcetera. In your podcast. Um, it's the Food

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