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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure they can't adopt again.

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Speaker 1: I seventeen, male, have lived with my adopted parents, Randy

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Speaker 1: this comes from Possession Fun ten to eighty three on

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Speaker 1: the r slash Hokey Storytime subpreed it.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: My parents love telling anyone who listens the story of

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Speaker 1: my adoption. According to them, they were my miracle. That's

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Speaker 1: so sad. It's not like, oh, you were our miracle.

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Speaker 1: It was such like a blessing to be able to adopt.

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Speaker 4: You came into your life one Christmas morning, and we

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Speaker 1: You got, best thing you've ever had. Also, thank you

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Speaker 1: Their story always goes something like this. After our third

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Speaker 1: to adopt from the country Randy's brother, my uncle is

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Speaker 2: That's me.

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Speaker 1: The orphanage told us that nobody was going to adopt

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Speaker 1: the boy because of his birth defects, so out of

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Speaker 1: That's so messed up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you really sold it.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 5: You know how many points you get for that, like

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Speaker 1: We're just we're just such great people.

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Speaker 1: Little this little boy who had birth defects. Chose that's

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Speaker 6: That's what they did with what's that one mouse?

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Speaker 1: Stuart Little?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, they made like movies off that dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a start, Stuart Little.

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Speaker 1: I've heard the story so many times while growing up,

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Speaker 1: I hated that I was their charity case. I hated

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Speaker 1: I never told them this because they had never displayed

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Speaker 7: Ah, Emily just donated ten point sider bucks and says

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Speaker 2: So happy to catch a stream on time.

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Speaker 7: Whose voice is that Emily just donated ten more bucks

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Speaker 5: So I'm looking at the comments and everyone's like either

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Speaker 1: Two, you shouldn't. Adoption comes with a lot of baggage

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Speaker 4: But imagine being just adopted in general, like how inherently

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Speaker 1: Whole nother conversation. Kimberly find says, props to op for

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Speaker 4: And then Lily Pilly Willy says, God ethically sour humans

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Speaker 1: Let's go deeper into that. Guess you go says kids

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Speaker 1: Everything seemed to be settled until Ron suddenly changed his mind.

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Speaker 1: Due to her struggle with postpartum depression, Ivy refused to

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Speaker 1: Very Yeah, that's incredibly young. I had to put my

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Speaker 1: When my sister declined to raise her daughter, I stepped

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Speaker 1: Archie's family didn't object to the adoption as long as

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: I really didn't want to go to school on Friday.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a type of love story, it's not.

448
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: Good for them.

449
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: He has truly grown and improved as a person. Also,

450
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: I think that he was the same age as Op.

451
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: I think they went because he was three years older.

452
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: He was like he yeah, Op was like, he's my classmate.

453
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. He recently completed his master's degree. Approximately six weeks ago.

454
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: He proposed to me. I swear to god, I didn't

455
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: read ahead. Okay, I'm just I just know signs.

456
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm just really did not expect that. I did

457
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: expect it, obviously. Although we never dated, I felt comfortable

458
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: trusting him due to the significant changes he had undergone

459
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: in the past three years. Wow, she's fallen in love.

460
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: She's into it.

461
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: She's into it.

462
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 4: She's like, okay, She's like, he's a master's Okay, different,

463
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 4: he doesn't interrupt teachers anymore.

464
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: She's like, It's like, Ivy might not have been able

465
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: to change him, but I did, but I can. Sometime later,

466
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: I discovered that when he impregnated Ivy, his father gave

467
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: him a hard Can I say that beating I did.

468
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: His mother also spent years reprimanding him for his actions.

469
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: Through their tough love, they eventually managed to teach him.

470
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: And says, I haven't donated in forever. I'm stuck hold

471
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: with an injured hand. Jojo, forty five bags. You just

472
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: donated ten. Okay, Oh it's not.

473
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jojo for the ten.

474
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: Look at what you did.

475
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Ah Ai wore guys, would you still love me?

476
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

477
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: If I were always that word and I never switched

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: back Ai, I was AI worm.

479
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, without the aim, without the voice.

480
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: No, you take it or leave it.

481
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: Because I expect you with like a little like yeah, yeah,

482
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: I can engage, but the terrifying AI voice.

483
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, squashed, squashed. I was overjoyed. Oh. Through their tough love,

484
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: they eventually managed to teach him a valuable lesson, leading

485
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: him to become more courageous and ultimately reconnect with his daughter.

486
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: I was overjoyed.

487
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't think that he decided to become more mature

488
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: because of a beating.

489
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree. I think that I think

490
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: that sometimes people when they are younger. I mean, even

491
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: though nineteen is you know, you should know better, But

492
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: I think people grow and they change.

493
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Child I was a child.

494
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I I am not the same

495
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: person that I was at nineteen.

496
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the year that you've grown up, Like, yeah,

497
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 4: you're a different person.

498
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one year, the one year that I've grown.

499
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to start at conspiracy year twenty years old

500
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: or that you're nineteen.

501
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you meant that I was a clone? No,

502
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: and I had just been born.

503
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: No, it was a it was an age conspiracy. Interesting,

504
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, I got to spice it up. Interesting.

505
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: I was overjoyed when he proposed to me. With the ramp,

506
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: he has transformed into a significantly better version of himself.

507
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: In comparison to the arching I knew my whole life.

508
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: This mature version is vastly superior. But do you find

509
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: him attractive?

510
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: I love how it's just like he got on his

511
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: knees in the grocery store.

512
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: And then, oh my god, wow foreshadowing.

513
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: Last night I invited my parents and his parents to

515
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: my place for dinner. The primary reason for this gathering

516
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: was to share the news of my engagement. My parents

517
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: were somewhat apprehensive. Fair fair, I'd be like, oh, it's

518
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: been like six six weeks, okay, but they ultimately accepted

519
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: the news. Similarly, Archie's parents gave their blessing. I thought

520
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: our fathers hit it off well. After the announcement, Given

521
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: that I have never been fond of extravagant weddings, we

522
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: decided to have a small and intimate ceremony instead. News

523
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: of my engagement spread quickly. I woke up to numerous

524
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: messages of congratulations and well wishes. However, and this is

525
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: the one I was wondering about. Among these texts, I

526
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: noticed a message from my sister Ivy, asking to meet

527
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: at a coffee shop. Initially, our conversation was typical, but

528
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: things took an unexpected turn when she started inquiring about

529
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: the spicy sleet relationship with Archie. It was incredibly strange

530
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: and inappropriate for a sister to ask about her sister's

531
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: intimate life with her partner. Her question caught me off guard,

532
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: and I firmly shook my head before asking her why

533
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: she wanted such details. Why do you want to know?

534
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you like with him? I don't know.

535
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just I'm just waiting sixteen. I'm just waiting

536
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: for the title to come. Oh, I forgot about the title.

537
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, do tell me. I don't want to know.

538
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a surprise. The conversation took a

539
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: turn for the worse when she started discussing her dating life.

540
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: She continues to live with our parents, which led to

541
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: her romantic partners discovering.

542
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: Says, I'm doing good in Florida. I was on the

543
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: west coast of the hurricane.

544
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: Hopefully my Florida people are Okay.

545
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Is that supposed to be John?

546
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I think so John is one of the Florida people. Okay,

547
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: back to it, I'm still She continues to live with

548
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: our parents, which led to her romantic partners discovering her past.

549
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: Most of them left her because of it, wow, and

550
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: those who day it used her past against her in arguments.

551
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: I felt empathetic towards her throughout much of the conversation

552
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: until she revealed that she wanted everything back.

553
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: That was the title here we Go.

554
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I was taken aback by her statement. I asked her

555
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: to clarify, and she reiterated her desire for everything back,

556
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: meaning she wanted both jewels and Archie. That's just not

557
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: how it works. It's not how it works. You can't

558
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: just take him back. He doesn't want you.

559
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: If you hook up with them first, you own them.

560
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: That DIBs that dib dib. It's the rules, dip sister rules, friends, rules, Dav's.

561
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: Rules, finders keepers, all of the rules breaking them. Yeah, yikes.

562
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I initially thought she was choking, but her serious tone

563
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: made me realize she was being sincere. And also at

564
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: this point, the daughter is about uh if I think

565
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: she's about twenty four now or something. So the daughter

566
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: is Ivy, So this is Ivy is Yeah, so it's

567
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: been like, you know, eight years since that I think so.

568
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean at the top of this story it said

569
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: that she was twenty four now.

570
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: So okay, so she's daughter right now? Is eight is

571
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: what you're saying?

572
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Unless this is unless we're not fully caught up to

573
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: the present, which is possible because she said that the

574
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: that her sister's twenty four like currently, got it. But

575
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: either way, I like this. This child is at least

576
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: older than two, which means that she has seen OPI

577
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: as her mom for her whole.

578
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: Life, for her whole life.

579
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is random coming in two.

580
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: Archie came in and she was apprehensive and yeah, I'm

581
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: sure sure, but I assume that if they're marrying, maybe

582
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: she warmed up to him and that she was like,

583
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: now this is my father.

584
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, OPI said, she's Jules is warmed up to Archie. Yeah,

585
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: so like she's already she already sees these people as

586
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: her parents. Yeah, it's just and legally OPI is her parent.

587
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it's just Ivy's watching not only her own daughter,

588
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: but her her sister, you know, having her daughter, but

589
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: her sister like being.

590
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: With the man with the baby dead. Yeah, yeah, and so.

591
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: It's probably like jogging of like, oh, I could have

592
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: had this big, happy family, and now that I'm older

593
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: and you know, more available to it, I want.

594
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: It exactly, which is you can't just yeah, obviously I don't.

595
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily. I mean, the piercing of the contracept

596
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: of is a huge no. No, that's awful. But from

597
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: the standpoint of like a sixteen year old getting pregnant,

598
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I understand why she would not want to have the

599
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: baby at that point, yeah, or not feel capable of

600
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: taking care of it. But she doesn't just get to

601
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: come in and demand the baby.

602
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: Back, especially if it's you know, legally adopted, yes, and

603
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: raised its whole life by by Opie exactly.

604
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: She then expressed her belief that the life I currently

605
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: had should have been hers, which you said, because she

606
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: was the one who got pregnant with Archie first and

607
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: gave birth to Jeles, not me. Citing that all the

608
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: hard work had already been done, she claimed that I

609
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: should hand everything over to her because she was prepared

610
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: to be a mother and a wife, again so presumptuous.

611
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: I was taken aback by her statement and stood up

612
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: to leave. My sister Ivy had never behaved in this

613
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: manner before. She has been sending me messages attempting to

614
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: emotionally manipulate me into handing over Jewles and Archie by

615
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: leveraging her current life circumstances and recalling the struggle she

616
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: experienced with postpartum depression after giving birth to Jewles. By

617
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: the way, you could join us live every weekday at

618
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: three PMPSD. Just tap her profile.

619
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Just tap.

620
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Even though I haven't shared this information with anyone else

621
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: except my best friend, she labeled me a major red

622
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: flag and a jerk for accepting the proposal of my

623
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: sister's baby daddy and ex wait the best friends said that, yeah, what,

624
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: that's not your best friend, whom she had a huge

625
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: crush on. She accused me of being a disgrace for

626
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: claiming to care for my siblings but not upholding my words.

627
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: She further asserted that it's never appropriate to date another

628
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: siblings x regardless of the circumstances. Her words now replay

629
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: in my mind. Yes, my sister undeniably loved Archie when

630
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: she was sixteen. But am I truly in the wrong

631
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: for liking the same guy as my sister? Well, the

632
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: thing is, there were so many extenuating circumstances here. It

633
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: wasn't just like Opie's sister broke up with her boyfriend

634
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: and then Opie swooped in. It was like, years later,

635
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Opie's raising her sister's child and her the child's father

636
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: comes in, they start co parenting, and through that they

637
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: develop a relationship.

638
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, this take is feels very irrelevant. It's not like

639
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: she just like swooped in and stole so much. No

640
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: man that she was with, like she was raised. This

641
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: is so many years later, years raising a child with him.

642
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think that court like, if that's

643
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: the end of the story, then Ivy is twenty four,

644
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: which makes op and Archie twenty seven.

645
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, and so it's been eight years, been eight Yeah,

646
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: her child is eight.

647
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: That child is eight.

648
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 4: There's a whole decade that you raise this child. Yeah,

649
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: and a lot of it she was with Archie.

650
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Eight year olds are fully conscious. They remember things

651
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: now nowadays. Yeah, nowadays, they know things.

652
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: I do want to give some empathy to Ivy, even

653
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: though her request feels completely unfair.

654
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: And I think that's very obvious.

655
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: But after her child's birth, she was dealing with postpartum depression,

656
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: was in no state to raise her own child, absolutely,

657
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: and then after all these years, is seeing not only

658
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: her child be raised by her sister. It's jealousy and

659
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: that she's seeing her you know, the baby daddy and

660
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: now they're this family and now I.

661
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: Of course it's hard to see.

662
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: No, I would not just.

663
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: An inherently very hard thing to be with of like

664
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: this life that you could have had, but you were

665
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: you weren't ready to have a capacity for it, whether

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Speaker 4: it's from age or mental illness.

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Speaker 2: But so that sucks, But the request still no fair.

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Speaker 1: I don't fault her at all for wanting to have

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Speaker 1: a relationship with her child, and the thing is that

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Speaker 1: she could have that, Like this request is insane, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that she couldn't have a relationship with

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Speaker 1: her child. If she she could go into you know,

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Speaker 1: she could go to her sister and say, hey, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you, you know, stepping up and raising my kid,

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Speaker 1: and I would if you are okay with this, I

676
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Speaker 1: would love to kind of have some sort of relationship

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Speaker 1: with my child.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if she led with that, yeah, no, totally different.

679
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Speaker 4: Totally different stories, which still I would be able to

680
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Speaker 4: have some form of relationship. But now just by demanding,

681
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Speaker 4: that's not going to get you what you want.

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Speaker 1: But that is the end of that story. And there

683
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Speaker 1: is another one show let's get into it. And also Riley,

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Speaker 1: can I steal you Lacroix? I get Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: really thirsty. Time are there any you're carbonighted? Beveridge? Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Last one, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Also, Slithy says I would never accept a proposal from

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Speaker 4: someone I didn't date. Great point that whole thing was

689
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Speaker 4: a little strange. I did not understand that.

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Speaker 1: It was strange. However, I mean, we don't really know

691
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Speaker 1: the dynamics between them, and I do think that it

692
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Speaker 1: was probably like they were probably in very close quarters

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Speaker 1: in terms of.

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Speaker 2: How long How long did he propose after?

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Speaker 1: I think he said six weeks, which is super week,

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Speaker 1: super quick. Yeah, I want to double can't even know someone. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean personally, I would not do that. I would

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Speaker 1: approach maybe being in a relationship with someone.

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Speaker 4: I personally I want to get into a relationship with

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Speaker 4: someone after six weeks.

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Speaker 1: No, No, no, sorry, six weeks ago. Six weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's insane. No, this was approximately three

703
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Speaker 1: years ago. They had been they have been co parenting

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Speaker 1: for three years.

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, that makes so much more sense. I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's weird. Okay, in which case I understand more why

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Speaker 1: that like why they got.

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Speaker 4: Aggul You could really get to know someone co parenting

710
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Speaker 4: for years.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was just like, hey, can I see

712
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Speaker 2: my child?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Here it is.

714
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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get married, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three years is different. I think also he probably

716
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Speaker 1: was like, let's give our daughter now because we are

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Speaker 1: co parenting, you know, can I tod family or something.

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00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: Let's get into this next.

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Speaker 6: Let's introduce Alex and then read some donos.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everyone who doesn't know who this is.

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Speaker 2: My name is Alex.

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Speaker 1: It's Alex.

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Speaker 2: My name is Alex.

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Speaker 1: And there you go. Now you know, now, now you're

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Speaker 1: you're ready. Josephine Mandelaberquie says, we have a dono from her.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know we're getting there.

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Speaker 5: We're getting we're fixing the AI thing because people hate

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Speaker 5: AI and is this the first thesa?

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Speaker 1: You guys have the worms fun? I guess which Layla

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Speaker 1: the Bentomona I show one song. Thank you for being

731
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Speaker 1: a member for one month. I love the energy you

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Speaker 1: all have, the dynamics between you. You all brighten my day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sweet.

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Speaker 1: Tiny Cactus. Thank you for being a member for six months. Riley,

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Speaker 1: I hope your family is safe from the hurricane.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is it in North Carolina?

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Speaker 5: It is in North Carolina. My brothers are out of

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Speaker 5: school today. They got out early and they are not

741
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Speaker 5: going to go to school this weekend, and they were

742
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Speaker 5: going to do some stuff. But my little brother hit

743
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Speaker 5: me up and said, hey, what's your peacock passwords? So

744
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Speaker 5: I think they're just going to be watching the office. Okay,

745
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Speaker 5: So they're good, Fine, They're fine. Thank you, Amy, thank

746
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Speaker 5: you ye Hello's yeah, Hello Amy.

747
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the ten bucks. Josephine with old Beerquise.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the twenty seven sec Please no AI voice,

749
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Speaker 1: it's awful.

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Speaker 2: Please tell them kill the news.

751
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for becoming a night.

752
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

753
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: And Lailah the Bitchmona, thank you for gifting five gifted memberships.

754
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you.

755
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: Where is Riley's AI Voice?

756
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Speaker 1: Right?

757
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: Actually have one?

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Speaker 6: I do have one?

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00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: I disabled it because I thought they would want to

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Speaker 5: hear John's and Sam's okay.

761
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: But I just want to know.

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Speaker 6: I want to know, you want to know what it

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Speaker 6: sounds like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also to give it Ai Riley voice.

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Speaker 1: You guys have yet to meet my boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: This is not my not her boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: H prove it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 6: Alex. Text her real quick and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: No, no no.

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Speaker 5: Every time every time her boyfriend texts her, she gets

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Speaker 5: the biggest smile ever.

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Speaker 6: It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Wait all right, let's ready lose a Facebook cute a

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Speaker 5: Facebook Facebook says my boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: My parents forced me to join their van life and

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Speaker 1: I hate it.

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00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: Grateful, be grateful. Band life is awesome.

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Speaker 1: My parents decided, when I was only around seven years old,

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Speaker 1: far too young to get an opinion on anything, to

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Speaker 1: pack us up and move into an RV to travel

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Speaker 1: around the US. My dad works online and my mom

784
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: makes content online. She's not huge by any means, but

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Speaker 1: big enough that we get recognized sometimes, and big enough

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Speaker 1: that I've had a camera shoved in my face for

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Speaker 1: as long as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: This is not great.

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Speaker 1: For my privacy sake, I won't say anything else. On that,

790
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: and I'm using a throwaway account because I've gotten enough

791
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: attention already and I'm sick of it. By the way,

792
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Speaker 1: this comes from an educational Army nine fifteen on the

793
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Speaker 1: best of Reditor updates. I sleep in a tiny bunk

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Speaker 1: head that I outgrew years ago, and the other bunk

795
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Speaker 1: is the only space I have to put anything I own.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have a room, just a curtain, and

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Speaker 1: thank god I'm an only child, or else I would

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Speaker 1: have to share the small space I already have. I

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00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: was homeschooled for most of my education, and then switched

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Speaker 1: online school at my own insistence for high school. I'm

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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old girl and I don't have a

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00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: single friend in person because the longest I've ever stayed

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Speaker 1: anywhere is a month. I don't have a job and

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Speaker 1: no way to get one because of not being stationary,

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Speaker 1: unless I find one online, which also means I have

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Speaker 1: no way to move out and get away from them.

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Speaker 1: I had conversations with them about all of this countless times,

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00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: and they are so so delusional and genuinely believe that

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Speaker 1: a nomadic existence is the best way to live, So

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Speaker 1: why would I never need anything else? Why would I

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Speaker 1: ever need anything else. I hate them for treating me

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Speaker 1: like some pet they can just drag along in their

813
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Speaker 1: plans rather than their child. I hate traveling. I don't

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Speaker 1: like heat, I hate dealing with bugs. I'm so sick

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Speaker 1: of hiking. I can't wait for the day that I

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Speaker 1: finally figure out a way to get away from them

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Speaker 1: with their morning hikes and cameras in my face. I've

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Speaker 1: traveled around the US. Yeah, but God forbid, forbid. I

819
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Speaker 1: want to have a normal life, go to college, or

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Speaker 1: maybe even make some friends. That's asking too much. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is really sad.

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Speaker 6: Can you get me some water? And thirsty? That's mine?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you this is I personally.

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Speaker 4: Think what Captain Fantastic the movie? Yes, I love that movie.

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Speaker 1: That is a great movie. H I do think it's

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Speaker 1: slightly a slightly different situation.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, okay, what it is is that parents

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Speaker 4: living alternative lifestyle, you're raising a child.

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Speaker 2: So whatever lifestyle you have, your child is going to have.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely of course a child is going to look online

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Speaker 4: seeing people not living in the alternative lifestyle and be like,

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Speaker 4: why can't I have a normal life? Which is fair,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that the parents are doing this

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Speaker 4: awful thing by wanting to choose a lifestyle that feels

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Speaker 4: good for them and bringing their children in a lifestyle

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Speaker 4: that they think is good and a great way for

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Speaker 4: a human to be raised and to live.

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Speaker 1: I slightly disagree, tell me only because I think there

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Speaker 1: are certain alternative lifestyles that really work for a child.

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Speaker 1: And I think in Captain Fantastic, it was like they

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Speaker 1: had a whole.

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Speaker 2: Bit they did have. They rooted down stationary.

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Speaker 1: They were stationery, and they also had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like siblings and stuff, so there was socialization, whereas in

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Speaker 1: this case it is a like girl alone, like only

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Speaker 1: child who who is kind of moving from place to

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Speaker 1: place and not getting any socialization sure, which I think

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Speaker 1: for a child does need a certain level of socialization

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Speaker 1: to become a high functioning, well functioning adults. And I

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Speaker 1: think that in a lot of cases, the van life

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Speaker 1: is totally fine if you want to do that as

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Speaker 1: an adult and you make that decision, but I think

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Speaker 1: kids do need a certain level of you know, privacy

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Speaker 1: growing up and a little bit of space if you

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Speaker 1: can afford that. Obviously, people have different you know, financial

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Speaker 1: means and stuff, so it makes you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: going through somewhere where you literally can't afford to give

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Speaker 1: your child space. That's different, But I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little unfair to expect your child

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the same things that you enjoy as an

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Speaker 1: adult and that you've made like a conscious decision.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the parents do a lot more understanding

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Speaker 4: of why their child wouldn't want that, and like all

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Speaker 4: the limitations, like you said, the privacy, the lack of socialization,

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Speaker 4: and see what they can do of Like, yes, for

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Speaker 4: right now, you are my child.

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Speaker 2: You are living this lifestyle. This is the lifestyle I choose.

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Speaker 4: Like, how can we bring in these necessary components for

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Speaker 4: you to have the childhood and the life right now

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Speaker 4: that you want? Like, how can we bring more privacy?

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Speaker 4: How can we socialize or root down in some ways

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Speaker 4: so that you could make relationships that are essential for

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Speaker 4: any human being. Yeah, exactly, that's a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's figuring out what

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Speaker 1: works for both of you. It doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 1: can't ever do something like this, but it just means,

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Speaker 1: you know, looking at your child's needs first. Because when

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Speaker 1: you are a parent, I think that goes above everything

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Speaker 1: else for a certain time, because you've made that sacrifice

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00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: to become a parent, and I think that goes above

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Speaker 1: your own wants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel certain extent needs is very different

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Speaker 4: than children's preferences.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, whereas I don't even think this is a preference.

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Speaker 1: I think this is she needs socialization.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent, that is a need.

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00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, some form of autonomy, some form of privacy, those

888
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: are needs, one hundred percent.

889
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

890
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: But she's like, I hate hikes.

891
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: That's a little bit diffent.

892
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to do a damn hika.

893
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's like a compiled thing. She's like about

894
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: the hanking. Yeah, And I don't have any privacy and

895
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm alone, and it's like all of these Yeah. Yeah,

896
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I think there is some of this is just you know,

897
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: she's a teenager and she's annoyed with her parents. But

898
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is just the parents

899
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: not listening.

900
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: To her at all.

901
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there are some other comments. Commenter says, I

902
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: can't even imagine how lonely that must be. Do you

903
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: have any way other any other family you could stay with?

904
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: Op says, not that I know of. Unfortunately. Currently, my

905
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: plan is to try to figure out some making sort

906
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: of income online and save up so I can get

907
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: an apartment, and I'm talking with someone I know i've

908
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: known online for a long time about maybe being roommates

909
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: to help with costs for both of us. Commenter says

910
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: going to college is perhaps the easiest way out, but

911
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: maybe not the cheapest. However, certainly a good step forward

912
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. Opie says, I'm definitely looking into it,

913
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: but I'm worried about it because with the way I

914
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: was homeschooled, I was very behind academically and struggled a

915
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: lot in high school. I was just happy I was

916
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: able to do an actual online high school program rather

917
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: than homeschooling, which, again, if you're going to homeschool, that's

918
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: like a totally fine way to teach your children, but

919
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you know enough to

920
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: be able to do it, or like get the resources

921
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: structure track uh. Commenter says, ironically, if you were to

922
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: start creating content about getting away from your hipster parents,

923
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: you'd probably gain a lot of attention. It's like, I

924
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: live in van life and I hate it, and it's

925
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: just content about it's like all these beautiful sceniories and

926
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: stuff and about all the stuff about van life, but

927
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: it's just like this sucks.

928
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: Ye honestly today, well this is the worst I look

929
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: at this view. I hate it. I hate it.

930
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: Another thirty moon Winter Girl.

931
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for the twenty bucks.

932
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Speaker 6: A lot more.

933
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll read the comments first. There's an update to

934
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Opie says, Honestly, I've considered it just for the purpose

935
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: of spreading awareness, but it didn't seem smart to me

936
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: for a few reasons. So firstly, it didn't seem like

937
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: a long term solution. I don't think the content would

938
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: be all that interesting. Once my story is told, there

939
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: isn't any other real content there. There's only so many

940
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: times you can talk about the same thing without it

941
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: getting repetitive and boring. Plus I would have to be

942
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: in a stable position enough to feel comfortable talking about

943
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: it and have an out just in case things went sideways.

944
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I've already had my life plastered onto

945
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: the Internet from such a young age. I don't think

946
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: it's worth giving up the one aspect of my life

947
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: that hasn't been published publicly. I think if you're upset

948
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: with how much your life has been viewed, you know,

949
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: and how online you are, then maybe this is not

950
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah yeah, Gumby Rock says, eighteen hundred Runaway

951
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: provides a list of programs that will provide housing and

952
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: supportive services. We help people like you every day.

953
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh what is eighteen hundred runaway?

954
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: Presumably like a service that helps kids who want to get.

955
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: Away from their parents.

956
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: And Olpia is eighteen, so it's not like you.

957
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, she's not she's really allowed to be.

958
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: Legally an adult. But there is an update. But before

959
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: we get into that update, should we read the donuts? Yeah? Okay, Emily,

960
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: thank you for the six gifted memberships. We appreciate you

961
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: great Pad, thank you for the five. Being a member

962
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: for five.

963
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: Months awesome indeed.

964
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: And Winter Girl, thank you again for the twenty bucks.

965
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: We are that's such a kid stat. We finally got

966
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: to see the stickers. Oh my god, I love this,

967
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: just like a little dog. Yeah we haven't been able

968
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: to see them.

969
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: Oh, but there they are now we have stickers.

970
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: Aussie girl in an art jhop. Thank you for the

971
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: five gifted memberships. Samy, thank you for the ten gifted memberships.

972
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: Are killing in the membership. Yeah, also kind but there

973
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: is an update. But before we get into it, live

974
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: laugh Lobotomy says they're sheltering her away from the foundation

975
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: she needs to integrate into modern society. Pushing their alternative

976
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: life isn't fair to her development. I think, yeah, I

977
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: think if you want to live in an alternative life,

978
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: it's really just a balancing act of seeing what is

979
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: good enough.

980
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: You know, for your kid, Yeah, for any human, you know,

981
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: a whole assortment of needs, specifically belonging needs. How can

982
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: we integrate into a web of relationships? Very important, but

983
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: for a child even more important. And so I'm personally

984
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: I love alternative lifestyle.

985
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think they could be really great.

986
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: Again, the issue is if it's at the expense of

987
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 4: your children and your child's needs, then of course there's

988
00:50:59,480 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: issues with.

989
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: There's issues, But there is an update. Hello. Barely over

990
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: a week ago, I made a post talking about my

991
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: very negative experience living in an RV with my parents

992
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: for around ten years. Despite it being such a short

993
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: time since I've posted it, a lot has changed for

994
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: me since then. I don't know how many people here

995
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: would be interested in an update on my situation. But

996
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: I know quite a few people were very concerned and

997
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: would probably appreciate an update, so here. It is also

998
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: fair warning this is a fairly lengthy post. I have

999
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: a tendency to ramble. I add. A lot of people

1000
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: give me some really helpful advice resources, as well as

1001
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: even offers to try to help personally, some being questionable admittedly,

1002
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: but a majority being genuinely concerned wanting to try to help,

1003
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: and I very much appreciate that. It was slightly overwhelming,

1004
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: to be honest, and I ended up not responding to

1005
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, so you'll all have to forget

1006
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: me for that. But even if I didn't respond much,

1007
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: I have been doing research on a lot of the

1008
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: information people gave me. Something that stood out to me

1009
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: was people asking if I had any family I could

1010
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: stay with, to which I had to respond, not that

1011
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: I know of, because I don't have anyone on my

1012
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: dad's side of the family, and my mom strictly went

1013
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: no contact with her family. I didn't know if they

1014
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: were alive, if they cut her off, if she cut

1015
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: them off, or even any details about them, and my

1016
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: mom had never wanted to talk about it.

1017
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's a big thing. To keep from your child.

1018
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I have any family?

1019
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1020
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 6: It's like.

1021
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: What information I did have was my mom's maiden name,

1022
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: which is pretty uncommon, and where she was born, which,

1023
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: in terms of trying to find family can actually get

1024
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: you surprisingly far. I've come to realize I've always had

1025
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: a slight hatred for the Internet because I never had

1026
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: a choice in my life being public knowledge, and I

1027
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: know that once something is out there, it's out there.

1028
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: But for the first time, I'm actually really grateful for

1029
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: the Internet. I was able to find some information on

1030
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 1: my mother's side to the family, and specifically was able

1031
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: to find my grandma's Facebook account, though it did take

1032
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: me some effort. After a lot of stressing on how

1033
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: to approach messaging her, if I even should, as well

1034
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: as potential outcomes, I messaged her explaining my mom's life,

1035
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: who I was, and my situation. I won't go into

1036
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: details onto why my grandma and my mom are no

1037
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: contact because that is not my story to share. But

1038
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: my grandma was appalled that she has a granddaughter about

1039
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: and even more so the way in which her daughter

1040
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: raised me.

1041
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: Wow, do you even know about her own granddaughter?

1042
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: I wonder if like the mom got pregnant and kind of,

1043
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, ran off or something like a contact.

1044
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: Maybe that's really anything.

1045
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously there are big if there's no contact

1046
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: and her grandma doesn't even know even know that her

1047
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: daughter has a child.

1048
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found out I have an aunt and uncle,

1049
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: both of which my grandma told them about me and

1050
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: my situation. I've been in pretty much constant contact with

1051
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: all of them since, just learning about each other. All

1052
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: of them want to help me get out of this

1053
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: living situation with my parents, and luckily, with me being eighteen,

1054
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: now it's actually possible. Again. I don't feel entirely comfortable

1055
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: going into details, but I have arrangements to go stay

1056
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: with my aunt, who lives in a big city on

1057
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: the West coast that had a lot of potential opportunities

1058
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: for me to start college or whatever I see fit.

1059
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: That's amazing, which I do plan on figuring out college.

1060
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Happy to announce my uncle has kids, but my aunt

1061
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: lives on her own and has a spare bedroom, which

1062
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: has no problem letting me stay in for as long

1063
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: as necessary. That is really hard to find out that

1064
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: you had this whole support system and cousins and aunts

1065
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: and uncles and grandparents that you just didn't have access to.

1066
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also were they necessarily being head like I

1067
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: don't know she was being lied to about them. It

1068
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: was just like we don't talk about family, yeah.

1069
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just not even bringing them up.

1070
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is I think.

1071
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: But that's exciting that it's always people that are like,

1072
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, get offering supports.

1073
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, new family and stuff. I'm talking. Wait, I have

1074
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: a train ticket scheduled and purchased by my aunt and

1075
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: enough money to get to the station I'm talking with

1076
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: my family. Still feels weird to type currently and trying

1077
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: to plan out the details, like how or if I'm

1078
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: going to tell my parents. I do think you should

1079
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: tell your parents. They legally can't keep you there because

1080
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: you're eighteen, But I do think just letting them know

1081
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: where you're going.

1082
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 4: Well, I was I was curious how that was going

1083
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: to go down. Understand that, like, she's upset at the

1084
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 4: way she was raised, but it doesn't seem like she

1085
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: was abused. It doesn't seem like her parents or whatever

1086
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 4: awful to her. And I imagine that she would still

1087
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: want relationships with her parents, says anyone does ideally, and

1088
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 4: so I'd be curious about how she could go about

1089
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: that in a way that's not like I'm leaving dippin'

1090
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: by Yeah, I got Hey, you know, this is what

1091
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 4: I This is what I'm going through, this is what

1092
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 4: I want.

1093
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: I did reach out to them. This is the support

1094
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to. I'm ann adult. I still

1095
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: love you, but this is what's going to happen.

1096
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just saying I'm gonna do it regardless

1097
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: of your support, but I would like your support. Yeah, yeah,

1098
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking with my always said that my mom doesn't

1099
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: know any information on where any of her family lives.

1100
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: So even if I were to tell my parents who

1101
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to live with, they wouldn't know where I was. Specifically,

1102
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: someone pointed out that if I did leave without telling them,

1103
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: I should leave a note or some form of proof

1104
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: that I left willingly. So if I do opt out

1105
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 1: of a conversation, I'm planning on either last either leaving

1106
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: a note or filming a video explaining my plans and

1107
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: why I'm leaving, which would be kind.

1108
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: Of ironic, wouldn't it.

1109
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: Wait, what it's like, Oh, he's like if she made

1110
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: a video saying like that.

1111
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 4: Is ironic and put a camera in this whole time. Yeah,

1112
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 4: she's recording on a camera.

1113
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: She does like an apology video. I'm so sorry, but

1114
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: I have to go. The channel's over. Regarding my mom filming,

1115
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: I've been very quiet around my parents and just refusing

1116
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: to talk when the camera is on, but neither one

1117
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: of them has mentioned it yet so far. Luckily, also

1118
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: speaking of my mom's content, I would like to very

1119
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: much emphasize something quickly. Almost everyone was genuinely trying to help,

1120
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: but I had a few people replying trying to guess

1121
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: who I was. Luckily, the few I saw were basically

1122
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: torn to shreds and ended up deleting their comments. I

1123
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: also had a few people who messaged me privately trying

1124
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: to make a guess at who I am, which at

1125
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: least that's not public, I guess, although I can understand

1126
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: being curious, I posted anonymously with very little personal information

1127
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: for a reason. As I stated in my previous post,

1128
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: I have gone enough attention and I'm very much sick

1129
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: of it. I would very much appreciate it if you

1130
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: guys can respect that, even if you think you might

1131
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: know who I am. Please please, please don't make public

1132
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: guesses and understand that I don't want this to be

1133
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: even more public information tied to my name. Very long

1134
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: story short, I have set plans to leave, as well

1135
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: as a safe place to go with my aunt once

1136
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: I do and very much appreciate so people, so many

1137
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: people for being so willing to help. If you had

1138
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: told me not even two weeks ago, that not only

1139
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: would would I have a plan to move away from

1140
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: my parents, but contact with my family members I didn't

1141
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: even know existed, I don't think I would have believed it.

1142
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm currently not planning on making another post updating this,

1143
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: but wanted to let anyone who was concerned about me

1144
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: not to not worry and genuinely thank you. And there

1145
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: are a couple comments to finish off this story.

1146
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: So did she say how she was going to tell her?

1147
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Didn't she didn't decide whether we don't get to know

1148
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: how she tells the parents.

1149
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: I hope that they could still have a relationship. Yeah,

1150
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: I mean I I thinking like that's out of the

1151
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: question at all. I think it's completely possible, and how

1152
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: she goes about it, I think they could all still

1153
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: have a relationship.

1154
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think perhaps there is like maybe she's worried

1155
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: that they'll record it or something. Did They're like, oh, okay,

1156
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: one more time on camera?

1157
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like why are you leaving?

1158
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Fight with daughter? Watch she's against van life. Everyone in

1159
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: the comments daughter, Yeah there will be cats with gwenefarre.

1160
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: Can we do a poll? Actually, do we tell the

1161
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: parents or ghost? What I would tell them?

1162
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it will be clear, but what the comments? Likeness?

1163
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there will be cats, says yes. Safety first. A

1164
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: lot of Cunningham says not till she's safe. I guess

1165
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: it's that's it. I not think from the story, in

1166
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, implied that they would react in a way

1167
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: that was like unsafe.

1168
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1169
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 4: I don't know why safety is being brought into the questions.

1170
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: I think they definitely have been mistreating her in terms

1171
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: of you know, like putting her online, putting her real

1172
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: life online and stuff.

1173
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: But also.

1174
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: Points is that, I mean, how many parents post their

1175
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 4: children on Facebook? Granted they don't have a following, but

1176
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 4: what's the difference of like posting on you know, public

1177
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: social media.

1178
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm personally against posting it too.

1179
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 4: But I would say, yeah, I wouldn't say like that's

1180
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: abuse or like a I.

1181
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Don't think it's necessarily. I think there is a time

1182
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: when it becomes mistreatment when you post all of your

1183
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: child's life to an extent where they don't get privacy.

1184
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: I wonder if they ever had a conversation about it, yeah,

1185
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 4: like I really don't want this, Yeah, don't do it.

1186
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: And I wonder if they were like, sorry, this.

1187
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Pot looks your famous now. Yeah, but we have eight

1188
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: votes for we have sixty percent of you guys say

1189
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: tell parents. Wow, so it is tell parents.

1190
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 4: I had lost faith, didn't even didn't even expect them

1191
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: to know what's saying.

1192
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: You have great words.

1193
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: Comments, though, commenter says, be careful. You don't really know

1194
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: your mom's family. I know it seems like an out,

1195
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: but just be careful. That's that's fair, very fair point.

1196
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: She don't know why them. I mean, you know, the

1197
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: mom's obviously not great, but we don't know why she

1198
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: cut contact with them.

1199
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: These people could be dangerous. That is a possibility.

1200
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: I think that is a that is a definitely a possibility.

1201
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: Just because they're biologically related to you doesn't mean they're

1202
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: more safe than strangers.

1203
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Opie says, I absolutely will be why my

1204
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: mom isn't in contact with them. It makes total sense

1205
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: and none of it was their fault. Plus they were

1206
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: able to send me evidence of that. But despite that,

1207
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: I definitely don't know them personally yet. My train out

1208
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: isn't scheduled immediately or anything, and I'm going to continue

1209
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: talking with them until then. But they do seem to

1210
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: be genuinely concerned and trustworthy. Plus my aunt, who all

1211
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: bes staying with, seems super nice and we have already

1212
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: figured out that we have certain things in common. To

1213
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: the same commenter a bit later, Opie says, oh, I

1214
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: forgot to mention earlier. As I said in the post,

1215
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm planning on going to college because that's a more

1216
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: obtainable option for me now ah, and I'm hoping to

1217
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: figure out living in dorms, so realistically, I won't be

1218
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: staying with my aunt for that long once I work

1219
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: that out. Commenter says, you can't really know they're being truthful.

1220
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: You should ask your mom why she stopped communicating with

1221
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: them without telling her you started and get her side

1222
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: of the story. I think that's smart. Yeah, Opie says,

1223
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: my mom like one hundred percent refuses to talk about

1224
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: her family. That's the reason I didn't have any contact

1225
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: with him in the first place and didn't even know

1226
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: about my honor uncle. But I'm confident they are being

1227
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: truthful about it because I was literally shown proof and

1228
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: some of it was literally.

1229
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: Core core ordered.

1230
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: What was court order? What is that? What is I

1231
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: don't know what she means by like some of it

1232
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: was court ordered?

1233
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's more serious than I thought

1234
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 4: if there was court involved.

1235
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, commenter says, I do not recommend making a video.

1236
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: Your parents will use it for content.

1237
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, reacting to their daughter's video, They're.

1238
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: Like, hmm, that's a weird point there. Yeah, chah, write

1239
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: a note at most keep it simple, though, Opie says,

1240
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: I realistically don't plan on filming a video. I think

1241
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: I was just feeling petty and upset thinking about it all,

1242
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: which just led to thinking about drastic ideas of what

1243
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: I should do for telling my parents. Video definitely isn't

1244
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: a good idea if I don't just tell it myself.

1245
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: To a downvoated comment or, Opie says, question, have you

1246
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: ever seen the Harry Potter movie scene where his room

1247
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: is under the stairs and thought to yourself, Wow, he

1248
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: actually has enough room to sit up in a bed

1249
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: and a door. I have multiple I have multiple times.

1250
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Actually sucks. I'm very willing to abandon them to not

1251
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: have to feel like that anymore. Also, just on that subject, saying, oh,

1252
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: he's saying, yeah, have you ever thought, oh, he has

1253
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: so much room in that closet? And oh he's like

1254
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: I thought that.

1255
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: But are you a wizard? But are you a freaking

1256
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: But are you a wizard?

1257
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: Commenter says, ah, ah, A great analogy. Listen, could you

1258
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: do me a favor? Whatever the name of your town,

1259
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: you're going to call the local police of the town

1260
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: you're going to or share a station or on a

1261
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: non emergency number, ask for the community liaison officer and

1262
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: then briefly introduce yourself. Explain that you are eighteen, leaving

1263
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: his family situation which is not healthy, and going to

1264
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: stay with the relative you have not previously met. Give

1265
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: the officer your contact info, and tell him or her

1266
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: that you just want somebody that you can trust to

1267
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: know where you are and to please give you a

1268
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: wellness check in a couple of weeks, and that you

1269
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: will stop in and let them know how you are

1270
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks following that, agree on two innocent

1271
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: code words for your wellness slash future conversations, one which,

1272
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: when dropped into conversation means something is wrong, please get

1273
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: me out of there, and the other which means everything

1274
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: is just fine at present. Does this sound comfortable for you,

1275
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: Opie says, that's a really good idea.

1276
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: That's a great idea.

1277
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: That is a great idea making sure that you have

1278
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: some safety net before you go live with strangers. Yes,

1279
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: who you know? Your parents had no contact with them.

1280
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: We don't know why.

1281
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: And there was some conflict there, some sort of core

1282
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: ordered thing,