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Speaker 4: All right, man, go ahead, Welcome back to the Richard

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Speaker 4: Sherman Podcast. We got a very special guest here, Joey

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Speaker 4: Porter Junior. How you doing, bro.

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Speaker 3: Ma, I'm doing good. Blessed to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, We're blessed to have you.

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Speaker 4: Man. You're having a great season. I think you got

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Speaker 4: the what do they call it the tightest coverage or

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Speaker 4: the tightest window rate in the NFL. Right now, what

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Speaker 4: has the transition been like from college to the league.

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Speaker 5: It's been pretty smooth, you know, definitely some up and

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Speaker 5: downs coming through.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Coach he always say he's been a great coach for

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Speaker 5: me so far, but he always give me nuggets and

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Speaker 5: he was like, the hardest transition from college to NFL

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Speaker 5: is the DP position just because the limited rules and

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Speaker 5: it's such the switch from college to the NFL. So

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Speaker 5: he understands the transition and he understands the growing pains

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Speaker 5: with that. So he's been understanding of the process.

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Speaker 2: And Coach t coached your dad, right.

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Speaker 5: No, he didn't coach my dad, but they coached with

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Speaker 5: each other though. When my dad came back with the still.

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Speaker 4: Listen, okay, okay, I was about to say, I was

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Speaker 4: about to say, I don't remember if they crossed over

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Speaker 4: like that. I was about to say, that's the story

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Speaker 4: that somebody missed. How much What kind of advice did

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Speaker 4: your dad give you?

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Speaker 2: You know, going into the league.

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Speaker 5: I'll say the biggest was off the draft night, just

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Speaker 5: coming with that chip on your shoulder. You know, people

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Speaker 5: I had I had doubters going in, you know, I

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Speaker 5: didn't fall where I wanted to go, and he knew

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Speaker 5: I was. I was upset. So he's like, man, just

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Speaker 5: play with that chip on your shoulder. Didn't want to

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Speaker 3: Go be one. So that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 2: No, no question, no question. What did you learn?

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Speaker 4: You know, growing up watching your dad play in the league,

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Speaker 4: watching his transition, watching his work ethic and everything that

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Speaker 4: he had to deal with. Obviously you grew up in

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Speaker 5: Really just hard work, you know, hard work beat talent

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: That was the main thing he really taught us growing

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Speaker 5: up as a kid. And just I remember just working

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Speaker 5: out with him and my cousins. That was the main

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Speaker 5: thing he always just instilled in us was, man, you

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Speaker 5: got to outwork your opponents, never come last in anything.

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Speaker 3: So that that's what I got from him.

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Speaker 4: So who's who had been the hardest receivers that you've

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Speaker 4: had to guard this year?

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Speaker 2: I take out some stuff about it be nice.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't figure him out to like

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Speaker 5: the third third quarter probably I was like, Okay, I

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Speaker 5: got I got what he's trying to do.

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Speaker 3: But It took me a while.

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Speaker 4: Right right, because you see it on tape and you'd

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Speaker 4: be like, he ain't gonna do me like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I following for that, and then you followed

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Speaker 3: for the game. You're like, man, what.

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Speaker 2: That boy be selling a dream?

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Speaker 4: He do?

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Speaker 3: He good?

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Speaker 2: He's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some there's some very clever receivers in this

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Speaker 4: in this league, but he's one of them. Uh, but

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Speaker 4: a guy on your team that that that has shown

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Speaker 4: some flashes of being a really good receiver, Kenny Pickens,

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Speaker 2: George Pickens.

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Speaker 4: He's looked dynamic on tape and especially when it got

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Speaker 4: gold brouts and he's jumping up grabbing it on people's helmets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me what you think about him.

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Speaker 5: Man, He's one of those athletes like you don't see

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Speaker 5: you see, you don't see a lot you know, just

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Speaker 5: the plays you make, how effortless it is. It's like

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Speaker 3: So it's like coming in coach.

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Speaker 5: Even my first meeting I hired with the Steelers, like

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Speaker 5: between y'all two throughout the years, is gonna be something crazy.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm already known because he's the talk

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Speaker 5: throughout training camp we kind of had that little battle

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Speaker 2: No question. No. Do y'all do one on ones during

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Speaker 5: No, but we do sometimes like offense versus defense. So

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Speaker 5: those are the times I get to go against him.

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Speaker 4: See see, y'all better than me because Pete used to

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Speaker 4: have us do one on ones every single week Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Stay tight. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, goch Ste doing it

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Speaker 4: So tell me about him, because you know, everybody that

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Speaker 4: that has played for him raves about him. About the coach.

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Speaker 4: He is the man, how he treats his players. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: tell me more about about what he's meant to you.

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Speaker 4: You know, just to start your career, he named you

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Speaker 4: that was a big deal for you. You responded to

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Speaker 5: Man, It's it's crazy because we had a history before

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Speaker 5: he's been my coach, Like, I'm great with his family,

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Speaker 5: like me and his son's been best friends for a

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Speaker 3: So just having that transition as seeing him as uncle to.

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Speaker 2: Are you my coach?

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Speaker 5: It was it was kind of weird, but we had

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Speaker 5: I know, you did the respect. It was earned and uh,

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Speaker 5: I feel like that was the most genuine thing out

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Speaker 3: And he just let me be me. He let me

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Speaker 3: play my style right right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, he's probably known your whole

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Speaker 4: life growing up. I can't imagine how that draft process went.

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Speaker 4: Talking to your dad and and doing all the background

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Speaker 4: work on you and trying to make you a Pittsburgh stealer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that had to be a really cool process.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: It was when I seen him at the combine, I

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Speaker 5: they didn't schedule visit with me, And I seen them

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Speaker 5: like he didn't even mile, not even I was in

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dang, like I can't even get it.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Or I head?

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Speaker 3: No, like nothing? So it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was playing that close to the vest. He

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Speaker 4: couldn't so.

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Speaker 2: Gay because somebody would have came and stole you.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Well, y'all got one of the top records in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it hasn't been perfect, but Kenny Pickett has done

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Speaker 4: a better job now turning the ball over. They got

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Speaker 4: rid of Matt Canada. How has it been in the

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Speaker 2: In a long time. Is there more energy optimism? Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 5: It was a it was like a not a wake

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Speaker 5: even on the offensive side. The defensive siety was like,

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Speaker 5: we gotta put the offense in a better position. It's

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Speaker 5: not just the offensive thing. It's a whole team thing.

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Speaker 5: Special team's gotta come together. And I feel like we

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Speaker 5: really just wanted that bad taste out of our mouth

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Speaker 5: after the Browns performance. So this this win, that was

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Speaker 5: And man, we just got to keep rolling, keep stacking

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Speaker 4: No question, no question, that's all. That's what it's always about,

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Speaker 4: stacking the days. I'm sure you know you got some

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Speaker 4: great players on that defense, some great leadership. Talk about

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Speaker 4: and you know how much of a mentor he's been.

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Speaker 2: He played a lot of good football.

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Speaker 4: He came in with me, uh and it's playing at

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Speaker 4: a high level this year, getting his hands on football.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's it's been. It's been great because it's it's

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Speaker 5: a full circle to me. You know, you and him

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Speaker 5: were like the main two guys I watched growing up,

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Speaker 5: Like when I watched when I really wanted to play corner.

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Speaker 5: You guys were the ones I watched like the Boom

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Speaker 5: and all that, so, like was it's crazy to have

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Speaker 5: him be my og. You know, right, used to watch

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Speaker 5: his matchups with Megatron. Now he's giving me tips about

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Speaker 5: fact that he's embracing me and giving me tips on

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Speaker 5: how to win and be successful is great.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, he wants to see you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, that's what

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Speaker 4: any young player, you know, you want to see him win.

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Speaker 4: You want to see the best form.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's probably one of the best you could have as

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Speaker 4: a mentor, especially at this point in his career. He's

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Speaker 4: seen it all, done it all, been there, been in

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Speaker 4: big games, played in big games, played in big matchups.

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Speaker 4: But you also got guys like t J. Watt and

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Speaker 4: Alex heih Smith playing at a high level. That defense,

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Speaker 4: y'all have a stack. Talk about those guys.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's great.

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Speaker 5: You know, they get that ball out quick for me,

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Speaker 5: So I have no problem with it.

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Speaker 3: I love having on the so.

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Speaker 5: Man, I have to try to support them as much

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Speaker 5: as possible, you know, It's crazy because TJ used to

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Speaker 5: So the fact that I'm playing on his side, it's crazy,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's definitely crazy.

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Speaker 4: This is a paid advertisement your rook You know your

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Speaker 5: I got my own crib, you know, I have to

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Speaker 5: I told my dad I was switching positions. I hit

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Speaker 4: As you know, when you play corner that that everything

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Speaker 4: You ain't got to worry about no quarterback, no I

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Speaker 5: It's a tackle game if there is, get your pick.

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Speaker 5: So it's like you dictate your outcome and I want

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Speaker 5: I want.

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Speaker 2: You, no question, definitely, no question.

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Speaker 4: Well, you got the chance to go against OBJ, got

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Speaker 2: How much did that mean to you? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, man, man, everything just just off of the Stealers

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Speaker 2: Never. Yeah. I mean, I mean you were literally were

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Speaker 5: So like the fact that my dad did what he

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that. I mean, just got to be one

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take up too much of your time.

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Speaker 4: I notice your off day. If you got some questions

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Speaker 5: Now I got you, man, Thank you for having definite

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please do, please do. I appreciate you. Good luck

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Speaker 3: Keep balling, hey, thank you. Appreciate you any time.

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