WEBVTT - Griffith J. Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Fry and I'm Chasey V. Wilson. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have spent time in Los Angeles, or have you

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<v Speaker 1>even read about the city or heard about it in passing,

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<v Speaker 1>you have probably heard of Griffith Park. Uh. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge space. It's forty undred acres, incredibly large from

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<v Speaker 1>municipal park in a city. For comparisons, Central Park in

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan is eight hundred forty two point six acres, and

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<v Speaker 1>more than three thousand of those acres were donated all

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<v Speaker 1>at once for the founding of the park by a

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<v Speaker 1>single man named Griffith J. Griffith. That name in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself makes me gel a little there, you haven't um.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a huge statue of Griffith at the park's entrance.

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<v Speaker 1>And while his name today is associated with the park

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<v Speaker 1>and the observatory, during his time he was associated with

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<v Speaker 1>some other things, real estate, social climbing, and a scandal

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<v Speaker 1>that occupied columns and columns of newspapers around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Heads Up, this episode is going to talk quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the back half, about a pretty horrifying instance

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<v Speaker 1>of domestic violence UH and the court cases associated with

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<v Speaker 1>it as well as the act itself, So just know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's in this episode. Griffith Jenkins. Griffith was born

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<v Speaker 1>on January fourth, eighteen fifty in South Wales, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know a lot about his early years. We

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<v Speaker 1>do know that the Griffith family was very poor. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a subsistence farm and Griffith's father also took mining

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<v Speaker 1>work to make ends meet. When he was still just

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager, Griffith, who was the oldest child in the family,

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to the United States with his uncle in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Griffith attended school in Pennsylvania, and after his

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<v Speaker 1>education was complete, he started working as a reporter. In

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen seventies, Griffith traveled to the West Coast, making

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<v Speaker 1>his way to San Francisco, California, to report on the

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<v Speaker 1>mining industry there. Through his work covering mining interests, he

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<v Speaker 1>started to be seen as really an expert on the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>and this led to additional income as he started working

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<v Speaker 1>as a consultant. He offered his knowledge of the industry

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, as well as specific information about various

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<v Speaker 1>operations to heads of different companies. He also started his

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<v Speaker 1>own mining ventures, making decisions based on his wealth of knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>which turned to actual wealth pretty quickly as these operations

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<v Speaker 1>were successful. Yeah, there's actually us a lot of variation

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<v Speaker 1>in the stories of how he made his money. Some

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<v Speaker 1>will suggest that he made it all consulting, but really

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't make as much as he claimed. Others say

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<v Speaker 1>he had these side mining things going on. But basically,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time he moved to Los Angeles in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty two, he did have a pretty significant nesting with

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<v Speaker 1>him that he had amassed, and he used that money

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<v Speaker 1>to establish a reputation as a powerful businessman because he

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<v Speaker 1>primarily used that money to invest in land in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of two Griffith purchased Rancho Los Feliz

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<v Speaker 1>and yes we know that Angelino say lost. Plus he

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<v Speaker 1>bought this from a man named Thomas Bell. The land

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<v Speaker 1>had been owned by a woman named Maria Ignacia Feliz,

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<v Speaker 1>who and had inherited the ranch after her husband died.

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<v Speaker 1>She later remarried, taking the last name Verdugo, and at

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<v Speaker 1>that point Spain was still in control of the region,

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<v Speaker 1>having seized the land from indigenous Gabrielino Tongva people's. The

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<v Speaker 1>Felize family eventually lost control of the property and it

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<v Speaker 1>changed hands several times before this purchase when Griffith acquired it,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the time G. J. Griffith purchased Rancho Los Felize,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a reputation as a cursed property, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did not seem to mind. The large tract of land

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<v Speaker 1>that he bought that made up the Rancho property included

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<v Speaker 1>what they now called Los Felis, Silver Lake and a

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<v Speaker 1>section of the Santa Monica Mountains. Griffiths saw his property

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<v Speaker 1>acquisition as the beginning of an entirely new venture. He

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<v Speaker 1>truly intended to build a ranching business there. He imported livestock,

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of sheep, a hundred and fifty cows and fifty horses.

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<v Speaker 1>He built a railway around this huge property, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also started an Ostrich farm. Yeah, he had a business

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<v Speaker 1>partner in that Ostrich farm. But one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that he was buying this ranch land, setting up infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of developing it as as this little oasis

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<v Speaker 1>just outside the city was that he was making a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money in the land boom, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually selling off lots as neighborhoods from the southern portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the land, so he could claim that he already

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<v Speaker 1>had like some infrastructure and some business going there, and

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you want to live here? At that time, Griffith's

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<v Speaker 1>ranch was outside the Los Angeles city limits, but he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely inserted himself right into the middle of the city

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<v Speaker 1>social scene. People saw him as a climber and an interloper,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was referred to by a number of unflattering

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<v Speaker 1>nicknames and descriptions, the tamest of which might be quote

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<v Speaker 1>a roly poly, pompous little fellow. But Griffith was intent

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<v Speaker 1>on becoming a prominent citizen of his new hometown, and

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<v Speaker 1>one way that he saw to do this was through

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<v Speaker 1>civic minded acts. So, for example, he sold the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles water rights along the l A River

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<v Speaker 1>at a very discounted price, and this was a really

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<v Speaker 1>vital step in the city's developing infrastructure. He probably could

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<v Speaker 1>have set a price that gouged the municipal budget because

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<v Speaker 1>they really really needed access to that water, But through

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<v Speaker 1>some combination of genuine desire to do good and also

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<v Speaker 1>hopes that his generosity would be recognized and gained him

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<v Speaker 1>some clout, Griffith went ahead and sold it at a

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<v Speaker 1>financial loss. Griffith also knew the value that a well

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<v Speaker 1>made marriage match could have on his reputation. Enter Louis

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<v Speaker 1>Mesmer and his lovely daughters. Mesmer was quote a pioneer

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<v Speaker 1>resident and one of the best noon citizens of Los Angeles. Mesmer,

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<v Speaker 1>who had been born in France, was an industrious man

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<v Speaker 1>who had worked as a baker and a minor, and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately settled in Los Angeles in eighteen fifty nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>population was a mere three thousand, five hundred. He started

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<v Speaker 1>built and sold a number of businesses in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>and laid some of the first cement sidewalk in l

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<v Speaker 1>A on the edge of one of his properties. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time Griffith arrived in l A, Mesmer was a

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<v Speaker 1>well established, well respected businessman who had acquired significant wealth. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>Mesmer's two daughters, Lucille and Christina, were named as inheritors

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<v Speaker 1>of a huge fortune from a family friend who was

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Ris Walter. Naturally, Griffiths went right for the first

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<v Speaker 1>family of Los Angeles at the time and started a

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<v Speaker 1>courtship with Christina Mesmer, whose full name was Mary Agnes

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<v Speaker 1>Christina Messmer, although she went by either Christina or Autentina.

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<v Speaker 1>The two were married on January seven, and their wedding

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<v Speaker 1>was covered in the papers as a quote union of

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<v Speaker 1>two very wealthy Los Angeles families. But right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate, even before the wedding, there were issues between

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith and the Mesmer family over money. After the invitations

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<v Speaker 1>had already been mailed out, Griffith insisted that Christina sign

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<v Speaker 1>over her rights to her inheritance to him. He initially

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was inheriting all of Ris Walter's landholdings and

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<v Speaker 1>was reportedly really angry when he found out that she

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<v Speaker 1>was to split that real estate inheritance with her sister Lucy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when he insisted that he gained control of

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<v Speaker 1>the inheritance, and this put Tina in a really terrible spot.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to call off the wedding, and while

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<v Speaker 1>she acquiesced to his request, her siblings in particular found

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing really distasteful. They never really trusted Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>after that. Griffith and Tina had a son the year

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<v Speaker 1>after they married. They named him Van Dell. That was

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<v Speaker 1>their only child, and Griffith also adopted a number of

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<v Speaker 1>rather pretentious characteristics during his ascension among the Los Angeles elite.

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<v Speaker 1>So he started walking with a cane that he did

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<v Speaker 1>not need, presumably because he thought it made him look distinguished.

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<v Speaker 1>He wore very expensive, lamboyant clothes, and he started to

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<v Speaker 1>refer to himself by the title of colonel, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he had no military career to speak of. But people

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<v Speaker 1>accepted and started calling him Colonel Griffith. Historians have speculated

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<v Speaker 1>that this was likely Griffith kind of overcompensating for a

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<v Speaker 1>childhood of poverty, but for a lot of old money Angelinos,

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<v Speaker 1>they just saw this all is really ridiculous peacocking. So

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<v Speaker 1>as the nineteenth century was drawing to a close, Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>chase aimed Los Angeles forever with one grand gesture, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about how Griffith Park was established after we

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<v Speaker 1>pause for a quick sponsor break. In December, Griffith gifted

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Los Angeles with quite a Christmas surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, fifteen acres of land from Rancho Los Fellies

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<v Speaker 1>to be used exclusively as a park. That land had

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<v Speaker 1>not been developed in any way, and Griffiths wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it to stay that way. This was an

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<v Speaker 1>extravagant gift, and Griffith's motivations and making it have been

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<v Speaker 1>debated over the years. For one, he continued to want

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen as successful and important, and this gesture

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<v Speaker 1>certainly went a long way in that regard. Additionally, the

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<v Speaker 1>donation offered Griffith away to get out of paying taxes

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<v Speaker 1>on the land, and the real estate boom was in decline,

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<v Speaker 1>so selling off the land in part soles was not

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<v Speaker 1>as lucrative as it once was. He did, though, also

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to have a fairly genuine interest in civic philanthropy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did want Los Angeles to have a park system.

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<v Speaker 1>We have spoken before in the show about how places

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<v Speaker 1>like Central Park and the Mall in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Were inspired in part by people wanting to establish those

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<v Speaker 1>cities as cosmopolitan on a level that would match the

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<v Speaker 1>cities of Europe and their public spaces, and Griffith, who

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<v Speaker 1>had traveled a bit by this point, was similarly influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the grand public spaces he had visited around the

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<v Speaker 1>world and on the US East Coast, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>part of his desire to donate the park land, and

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith's own words quote, I consider it my obligation to

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<v Speaker 1>make Los Angeles a happier, cleaner, and finer city. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish to pay my debt of duty in this way

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<v Speaker 1>to the community in which I have prospered. And the

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<v Speaker 1>deed which transferred ownership to the l A City Council

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<v Speaker 1>was very specific about the fact that the land was

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<v Speaker 1>for a park in a park only. That deed is

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<v Speaker 1>actually um part of the l A Archives. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>have it framed on the wall. Uh and it includes

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase quote to be used as a public park

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<v Speaker 1>for purposes of recreation, health, and pleasure, for the use

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<v Speaker 1>and benefit of the inhabitants of the said City of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles forever. The city council also passed an ordinance

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<v Speaker 1>that named the park after Griffith shortly after all of

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<v Speaker 1>this began, so it is legally required to be named

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith's Park, even though Griffith had given up the land,

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<v Speaker 1>though he kept feeling connected to it and retained a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of ownership over it, even though he legally had

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<v Speaker 1>no claim to it, but in his eyes he believed

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<v Speaker 1>he did. There was a clause in the deed that

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<v Speaker 1>he turned over to the city that mentioned specifically that

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<v Speaker 1>if the city did not maintain the land in a

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<v Speaker 1>manner that upheld that mission statement, ownership of the land

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<v Speaker 1>would revert back to the Griffith family. And it's possible

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<v Speaker 1>that Griffith actually believed this was going to happen. He

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<v Speaker 1>certainly frequently wrote letters to the city and the Park

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<v Speaker 1>Commission stating that he felt things were not being done

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<v Speaker 1>correctly regarding the acreage he had donated. He also served

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<v Speaker 1>on the Parks Committee, so he had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of say in that regard, even if he didn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>own the property any longer. Griffith's vision was for the

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<v Speaker 1>part to include both the esthetics of the European gardening

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<v Speaker 1>tradition with manicured and cultivated spaces, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>significant retention of the natural space, and that was indeed

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<v Speaker 1>how the city designed the park. Yeah, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever visit Griffith Park, it's really sort of marvelous

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a lot of a lot of space

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<v Speaker 1>that is in its natural state. And then they had

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<v Speaker 1>a zoo at one point. There's like famous marygo around

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about in the our Friday episode. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he managed to set this up and it has retained

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<v Speaker 1>that identity that it was always intended to have per

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<v Speaker 1>his instructions. So Griffith had at this point kind of

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished what set how to do in his bid to

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<v Speaker 1>become an important part of the Los Angeles community, and

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<v Speaker 1>at least in name, he remains so to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he had lived out the rest of his

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<v Speaker 1>life peacefully after this, he probably would have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good and tame legacy in history as a slightly eccentric

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately benevolent philanthropist who made and married a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money and then used it to better his city.

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<v Speaker 1>But the next chapter of his life took a very

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<v Speaker 1>dark turn. Just as Griffith seemed to have gotten all

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted, he started to drink more heavily, and

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<v Speaker 1>this started to impact his mental state as he developed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of paranoid ideas that started to govern his behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>And reading through all this, and like the parts that

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to get into, like I have thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>like the cause and effect cycle of all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Um An event that happened in September changed to Griffith's

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<v Speaker 1>legacy forever. He and Tina went on a summer vacation

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<v Speaker 1>into Santa Monica. They stayed at the Arcadia Hotel along

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<v Speaker 1>with their sun Van, who was fifteen at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Griffith behaved strangely during the families stay in Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>He had decided that someone was trying to poison him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he suspected that it could actually be the Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>This concern about the Pope seems to have been rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in a very anti Catholic bias that he had, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was manifesting in his paranoia. He would insist on

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<v Speaker 1>switching the plates at the table settings during the trip

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<v Speaker 1>because he believed that they might have poison residue on them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been estimated that Griffith, at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>his life was drinking roughly two quarts of whiskey each day,

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<v Speaker 1>that is sixty four ounces, just a little less than

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<v Speaker 1>two leaders, so that was also governing some of this

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<v Speaker 1>very strange behavior. Griffiths paranoia leads you a horrific series

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<v Speaker 1>of events. On September three, and one version of this story,

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<v Speaker 1>Tina was sitting at a desk in their hotel room

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<v Speaker 1>writing out postcards to friends and family when Griffith entered

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<v Speaker 1>the room, but then later testimony indicated that she was

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<v Speaker 1>actually packing for their return home. Regardless though of exactly

0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.960
<v Speaker 1>what Mrs Griffith was doing. The portion of the story

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<v Speaker 1>that's corroborated and consistent is that Mr Griffith carried a

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<v Speaker 1>revolver and a prayer book, which was Christina's prayer book,

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<v Speaker 1>into the room with him. And Griffiths was a Protestant,

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<v Speaker 1>but in his desire to move up in Enly society,

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<v Speaker 1>he had married a Catholic. Tina was very devout, so

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<v Speaker 1>in his mind, Griffith started to link his wife to

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<v Speaker 1>his paranoid delusions about the pope and had started to

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<v Speaker 1>believe on some level that she was conspiring with the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the Catholic Church against her husband. So Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>handed Tina the prayer book, told her to swear by

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<v Speaker 1>it that she would answer his questions truthfully, instructed her

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<v Speaker 1>to get on her knee ease, and then started interrogating her.

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<v Speaker 1>He had written his questions down ahead of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was reading them from a card that he

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<v Speaker 1>had prepared, kind of like a script. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>menu card from the hotel, and he had written the

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<v Speaker 1>questions on the back of it. And while this questioning

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. He was also pointing his gun at her.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked her if she had been involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>death of Andrea brig Walter, that was the family friend

0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.360
<v Speaker 1>who left Christina and her sister their fortune, saying quote,

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever know of brig Walter being poisoned in

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<v Speaker 1>your house? Tina answered no. Bridge Walter had died of

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<v Speaker 1>blood poisoning, which he had gotten due to an infected

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<v Speaker 1>foot injury, and that was something that Christina reminded her

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<v Speaker 1>husband of in this moment. Next, Griffith asked his wife

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<v Speaker 1>if she was poisoning him by asking, quote, have you

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<v Speaker 1>been implicated with or do you know of anyone having

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<v Speaker 1>given me poison? Tina, who called Griffith Papa, replied quote,

0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 1>why Papa, you know I have never harmed a hair

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<v Speaker 1>on your head. His third question was whether Tina was

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<v Speaker 1>a faithful wife, and she stated that she had never

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<v Speaker 1>been untrue. Griffith had an additional question on his card,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't ask it. He shot Tina after asking

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<v Speaker 1>the third. He shot her in the face. The bullet

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<v Speaker 1>hit the outer edge of her left eye, shattering the

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<v Speaker 1>bone of her eye socket, and it was reported that

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<v Speaker 1>upon impact with the bone, the bullet fragmented and a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of it pierced her eye, so her left eye

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<v Speaker 1>was destroyed, but the bullet didn't penetrate into the brain cavity.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the bullet fragments passed under the skin

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<v Speaker 1>of her temple and lodged under her scalp. Surprisingly, Christina

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<v Speaker 1>Griffiths survived this brutal attack. She lost that eye and

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<v Speaker 1>had some facial disfigurement, but had been fast enough in

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of reflexively jerking her head to one side

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<v Speaker 1>that she thwarted Griffith's aims so he did not hit

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<v Speaker 1>her square in the forehead, and after asking her husband

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<v Speaker 1>why he shot her, she next jumped out of the

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<v Speaker 1>window onto the extended roof of the veranda below. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some versions of the story that indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>the owners of the hotel saw her and pulled her

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<v Speaker 1>into their rooms, but the version that the owners actually

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<v Speaker 1>gave the press was that she crawled into an open

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<v Speaker 1>window herself. So keep in mind that Tina at this

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<v Speaker 1>point had just been shot in the face. She couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see she was bleeding a great deal. She also broke

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<v Speaker 1>her shoulder as she jumped out the window. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was incredibly lucky that she was able to get to

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<v Speaker 1>safety at all. Meanwhile, her husband was still in the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>He had called the hotel staff that there was an accident,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a doctor was being called, he phoned Christina's

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<v Speaker 1>sister to tell her that her sister had been accidentally shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Griffith was treated at the Arcadia Hotel by a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Crawford that was called by hotel management, and she

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<v Speaker 1>stayed there the rest of the night. She was given

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<v Speaker 1>an opiate to help her sleep, and then, as sue

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, the following morning, she was moved to a

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<v Speaker 1>hospital in Los Angeles. She was still unconscious at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline that ran on September five in the l

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<v Speaker 1>A Times that detailed this incident was quote bullet in

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<v Speaker 1>head of Mrs G. J. Griffith. She declares that her

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<v Speaker 1>husband shot her. Result may be fatal. Christina Griffith's account

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<v Speaker 1>was included in this article, reported as having been told

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<v Speaker 1>to her sister in a moment of consciousness, who then

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<v Speaker 1>related to the paper. According to that account, when Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>entered the room, he said, quote, get your prayer book

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<v Speaker 1>and kneel down and cover your eyes. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot you, and I'm going to kill you. This version

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<v Speaker 1>didn't include the information that came to light later on

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<v Speaker 1>involving Griffith's aggressive questioning of his wife, because Christina had

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<v Speaker 1>not been conscious long enough to give a more thorough account.

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<v Speaker 1>Once she was in the l A hospital, Christina Griffith

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<v Speaker 1>went into surgery so that the bullet fragments could be

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<v Speaker 1>dislodged from her head. Her surgeon R. M. L. Moore

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<v Speaker 1>told the paper that while the situation was very serious,

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<v Speaker 1>he believed that the patient would recover. So this rite

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<v Speaker 1>up stated quote she either jumped or fell from the

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>window of the room and dropped onto the roof of

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<v Speaker 1>a porch on the level of the floor below. So

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<v Speaker 1>at this point Griffith was claiming that this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was an accident, and there was this whole idea that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe his wife had just fallen. His account was that

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<v Speaker 1>she had been packing a trunk when a revolver that

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<v Speaker 1>was either inside of it or that she had been

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<v Speaker 1>holding for some reason had accidentally discharged, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>that they had not been quarreling at all. In an

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<v Speaker 1>interview with a reporter, Griffith said that he and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife never quarreled. The reporter, to his credit, did ask

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<v Speaker 1>some very pointed questions about why Mrs Griffith would have

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<v Speaker 1>had one of Mr Griffith's revolvers in her trunk, how

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<v Speaker 1>she would have accidentally made her way out of a

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<v Speaker 1>window that was actually in a gable way that was

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<v Speaker 1>away from the main part of the room where their

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<v Speaker 1>belongings were, and the Griffith was intoxicated at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the incident. Griffith kind of shrugged off the hard questions,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say. The reporter at the end of that

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<v Speaker 1>says like, do you say this is wholly untrue? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, yeah, holy um. So Griffith kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shrugs off the hard questions and then claimed that in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he had been sober for several weeks. But the Mesber

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<v Speaker 1>family was adamant that this was not an accident. Tina's

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<v Speaker 1>brother gave a quote to the press that said quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Griffith did not shoot herself. The shooting was not

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<v Speaker 1>an accident. In our opinion. We are sure there was

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<v Speaker 1>no attempt at suicide. As yet, we make no accusations,

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<v Speaker 1>but we believe that the shot was not accidental nor

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<v Speaker 1>was it fired with suicidal intent. That statement was given

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<v Speaker 1>to a reporter, but before the article actually we went

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<v Speaker 1>to press, the Mesmer family contacted the paper again and

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<v Speaker 1>they asked to have the following statement added. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of if you look at that newspaper, um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in its own call out box to the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the article, and that state and his quote,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the consensus of opinion of this meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>That judgment be suspended until Mrs Griffith is able to

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<v Speaker 1>make a statement, but that a full explanation be demanded

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<v Speaker 1>from Mr Griffith, and that a full investigation be made.

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<v Speaker 1>The family at this point believed that a conflict stemming

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<v Speaker 1>from religious differences was at the heart of this whole matter,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Griffith's drinking to excess. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Christina was still hospitalized and unconscious, and while her doctor

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<v Speaker 1>thought that she would recover, nobody was certain whether she

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<v Speaker 1>actually would. The Arcadia's landlords, the Rights, also made a

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<v Speaker 1>statement that they believed that this was an accident, and

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<v Speaker 1>while the status of the Griffith's teenage son Vandel during

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<v Speaker 1>this incident had been a matter of confusion. Initially, people

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<v Speaker 1>were like where was Van del and nobody knew. It

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually discovered that he had in fact been outside

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<v Speaker 1>when it happened. Initially, when asked if his son had

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<v Speaker 1>been in the room during the shooting, Griffiths said he

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<v Speaker 1>did not know and that he was quote averse to

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<v Speaker 1>asking the boy. Griffith had agreed to be taken into custody,

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<v Speaker 1>still claiming that it was all an accident, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute he slipped away and went for a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>This was actually several drinks. He moved from one bar

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<v Speaker 1>to another, and a sheriff's deputy trailed him on a

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<v Speaker 1>ten mile bar crawl before he was able to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up with G. J. Griffith and make the arrest. And

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, we're going to talk about how the legal

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<v Speaker 1>ramifications of this assault played out. But before we get

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>into that, let's all take a break and we will

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<v Speaker 1>hear from one of the sponsors that keep stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>missed in history going. This entire incident and case was

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<v Speaker 1>huge news, and for the next several months leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to the trial, newspapers across the country reported every development

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<v Speaker 1>in the case. This included the fact that Griffith's legal

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<v Speaker 1>representation had offered Stina thirty five thousand dollars as a

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<v Speaker 1>divorce settlement, which she would only get if she refused

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<v Speaker 1>to testify in court against her husband. This was also

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<v Speaker 1>a move that was intended to get legal blocks on

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith's properties removed so he could sell them if he wished.

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<v Speaker 1>That included the property that Christina had inherited in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge Walter fortune. She did not take this offer, and

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<v Speaker 1>as initial hearings had approached, Griffith's defense slowly shifted away

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<v Speaker 1>from the story that the shooting was an accident and

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>instead claimed alcoholic insanity. There were several preliminary hearings and

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<v Speaker 1>the actual trial took place in February of nineteen o four.

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<v Speaker 1>When Christina Griffith testified, she wore a black veil that

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<v Speaker 1>covered her whole face. The newspaper report of her testimony

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 1>stated that quote the lawyers made Mrs Griffith get down

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.479
<v Speaker 1>from the witness stand and show her sightless eye socket

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<v Speaker 1>to each of the jurors, in turn holding up her

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>veil and dark glasses, while each of the twelve looked

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>her scars and deformities critically over it was not dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but pitiful and one of the most painful

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<v Speaker 1>incidents that ever happened in Judge Smith's court. Christina's time

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on the stand was unsurprisingly quite emotional. She told the

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<v Speaker 1>court quote, he told me to take my prayer book

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<v Speaker 1>and get down on my knees, that he had some

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>questions to ask me. I begged him to please put

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<v Speaker 1>the pistol away. Oh, I begged him to put it away.

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw that I was in the hands of a

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<v Speaker 1>desperate man. So I asked him if I might have

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<v Speaker 1>time to pray. He said I might, So I knelt

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and raised my eyes and prayed. She describes the questioning

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens next, and at the end of her account,

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<v Speaker 1>she stated, my only thought was to get out dead

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<v Speaker 1>or alive. That was a statement that Griffa's attorney asked

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<v Speaker 1>to have stricken from the record. Griffith J. Griffith was

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<v Speaker 1>charged with attempted murder. His attorney, Earl Rogers, tried to

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<v Speaker 1>discredit Christina in a number of ways and use her

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<v Speaker 1>testimony that Griffith had threatened to kill her on several occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the account of fits paranoia, to bolster

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<v Speaker 1>his clients in sanity defense. Former California Governor Henry T.

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<v Speaker 1>Gage was Christina's attorney, and he had Rogers as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the other attorneys present. Were so prone to arguing

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<v Speaker 1>with one another that one reporter claimed the judge quote

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<v Speaker 1>would be on the point of a journey for the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon to let them fight it out. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a very um There's a lot of bickering going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And Christina had given testimony in several hearings leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to the trial at that point. They were always consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had said in all of them that she

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<v Speaker 1>believed the real reason that Griffith wanted to kill her

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<v Speaker 1>was because she had threatened to leave him due to

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<v Speaker 1>his drinking, and that he knew that if that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>all of his secrets would become public. The fact that

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>he had this drinking problem was definitely something he had

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<v Speaker 1>been hiding. She had told the proprietor of the hotel

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>when the shooting happened that Griffith must be crazy, and

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>she also spoke of how he had been paranoid about

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<v Speaker 1>poisoning for years and years, and she had kind of

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>humored him when he did things like wanting to switch

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>plates with her, and his defense seized on all of

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that as evidence that their defense their insanity plea was sound,

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and to some degree that approach worked. Griffith was found

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>guilty not of attempted murder, but of the lesser crime

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of assault with a deadly weapon. He was sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>two years in prison and a five thousand dollar fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and was incarcerated at San Quentin. And while this was

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<v Speaker 1>believed by a lot of people to be a miscarriage

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of justice, Mrs Griffith's divorce filing had a better outcome.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>The judge granted the request immediately and the whole thing

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was handled allegedly within five minutes, some say four and

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>a half, so on November five, nineteen o four, he

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>was already incarcerated at this time when they had this hearing.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>The San Francisco Examiner ran the story of the proceedings

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>around the divorce. After stating during testimony that she had

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>been shot by her husband after he had instructed her

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to get on her knees and was allowed to pray,

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the judge interrupted and asked if this was deliberate, and

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>she replied, quote, it was deliberate. He made me get

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>down on my knees. I asked to pray, and then

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the judge asked quote. He then fired Christina. Griffith answered yes, sir,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and Judge Allen's next words were decree granted. As part

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.959
<v Speaker 1>of the settlement, it was determined that Christina would retain

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>custody of their son, Vandel, and that Griffith would pay

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>for the boy's education. Christina was also awarded sixty five

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. After the divorce was settled, she receded from

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the public eye and lived out the rest of her

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>life with her sister Lucy Whipple's family, until her death

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>in ninety eight at the age of eighty four. When

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Griffith finished his two years sentence, he was sober, repentant

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and really eager to rehabilitate his image, so after several years,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>he once again turned to grand gestures in an effort

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to re establish himself as a Los Angeles philanthropist. In

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twelve, Griffith offered the city of Los Angeles a

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to be put to we're building an

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>observatory on Griffith Peak, which is known today as Mount Hollywood.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But while the city council had been willing to take

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a huge gift of land from the man that a

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of people at the time believe to be a

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>society poser. They were not so keen on taking a

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>huge sum of money from him having been convicted of

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the spelony, even if he had served his sentence. I mean,

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the nature of the crime also, I think would be

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a deterrent. And keep in mind, like these are very

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>high level, powerful, wealthy families in the area. So it's

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit tricky because the Mesmer family, of course

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>was very very powerful and wealthy. But Griffith also kind

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of in some ways, you know, had had the city

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit over a barrel, like he had those

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>water rights that he had essentially given them. It was

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>all a little bit weird, but they so they kind

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>of put him off. It was like, we'll think about it.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And then in a similar move following year nineteen thirteen,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Griffith offered the city fifty thousand dollars. This was to

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>be put towards building a Greek theater in Griffith Park,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and once again there wasn't exactly a no, but there

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't any real movement to accept the offer. They kind

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of like went to operations slowdown with it. Griffith was

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly hurt by this refusal to accept his gifts, but

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.719
<v Speaker 1>he still had a vision for these two projects, and

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of course today there are a Greek Theater and the

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Griffith Observatory. They were built, but that did not happen

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>until later in nine Griffith died after a prolonged illness

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>which was reported as liver trouble. His image was still

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>tarnished in the minds of many of the city's residents,

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>although the obituary that ran in the l A Times

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>did not mention the assault, or his conviction or any

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of that. It instead recounted his philanthropic works and kind

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of left it at that. Upon his death, it was

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>revealed that Griffith had set up a trust to ensure

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that his observatory and the Greek Theater project did forward,

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and the city did use the funds from that trust

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to carry out construction on both of them. The Greek

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Theater was completed in nineteen thirty and the Griffith Observatory

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>was finished in nineteen thirty five. And now people know

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>his name, which is probably what he wanted in the

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>first place. Yeah, done, dune, Dune, do you have some

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>listener mail to take us out. I do, uh, it's

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>about me being a dumbhead in our Jean Baptiste dedn'ty episode.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>It's from our listener Kate, who writes, Dear Holly and Tracy.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>First off, I want to say I absolutely love your podcast.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>It is fascinating and well researched, and I know you

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>both worked hard to uplift marginalized stories. That said, I

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think you made a major misstep with today's episode on

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Jean Baptis, Denny and the blood transfusion race. I understand

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>why you chose to include a warning about animal experimentation

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. However, the fact that you included this

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>warning and made no mention of the fact that a

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>human being was abducted and forced to undergo a medical

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>experiment against his will came across as incredibly classist and frankly,

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>talkingly devoid of empathy. I don't know you personally, but

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I've listened to enough of your work to

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>know this was not your intention. I know you mentioned

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>having discussions about how graphic to get with various topics

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>other than animals, but I think you need to consider

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>not just what you are saying in these warnings, But

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>what you are saying with these warnings, this warning you

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>put on the episode prioritize the welfare of animals over

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that of a man experiencing homelessness. You basically said, we

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>expect the harm done to these animals to be more

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>disturbing than the kidnapping, assault, and eventual murder of Antoine

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>moray More who I'm sorry, I do not believe you

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>actually feel that way, but that is how it came across.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>As I said, I adore your podcast. I'm sorry this

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is what it took to get me to write in.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I've thought about it multiple times for much happier reasons,

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>but never got around to it. Thank you for the

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>work you do. I will say this is not this

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>completely valid criticism. I will say I think part of

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>it for me is that any time there is an

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>early stage UM medical development story, I kind of assume

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>humans are going to be horrible to each other, which

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>is part of why I that didn't even occur to

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>me UM. So it's a really good point. I will

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>just as a correction, he was not homeless, though he

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.239
<v Speaker 1>was believed to be. He had a home, he just

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't tend to go to it. Um, not that that

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>makes any difference. It's just for clarity, because I don't

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>want more wad story to become confused. Um. Yeah, I

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's always tricky and I know. Um. The

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing I will say is that we get mixed

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>reactions anytime we issue any kind of warning in the episode.

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>There are lots of times when people say, why did

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you warn us? That ruins the story and it's stupid

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and people should just know that history is full of horrors,

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and other people who say, I really wish you had

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>told me this was going to happen. Yeah. A lot

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of times. What I'm trying to make that call it,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of times when it seems like something

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that would not be expected in the course of the episode.

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Like if the title of the episode is the such

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:56.959
<v Speaker 1>and such massacre, I'm probably not gonna issue a warning

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>about there being a lot of violence in the episode. Um.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>But if it's a story about a breed of flowers

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and there's some kind of like horrific murder, and I'm

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna say something about the murder at the beginning.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Those are made up examples, right, And I mean I

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I It's one of those things that I thought about

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>even with today's episode, right, I knew I wanted to

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>include that domestic violence warning because it is a horrifying

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened and not something you necessarily expect with

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the man for whom Griffith Park is named if you

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know his back story, But I didn't include, for example,

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:42.919
<v Speaker 1>his alcoholism is like an addiction warning, or the fact

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that the violence was specifically gun violence, right, because that

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>can be right. I mean, that's the thing. It It

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gets to be a tricky dance, and I don't always

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>do it right clearly, um, because there are so many

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>things that could potentially be troubling to any number of people,

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's hard to predict. And also it's probably

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just there's part of me that's a jaded and callous

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>um cynic who's like, of course, humans train each other terribly,

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>which I try not to let drive the bus, but

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it blinds me. Um. I did also want to

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>mention though, that we got an email also from our

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>listener Rebecca, who really really wanted us uh, since we

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>had been talking about blood transfusion to mention to our

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>listeners the importance of donating blood. Uh. If you can

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>donate blood, it does a whole lot of good. Uh.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>She says, each whole blood donation can save up to

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>three lives. If that isn't enough to make you think

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, if it's something you can do, I know

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a little tricky during pandemic. So yeah, there's um

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the city where I live has been really good about

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like telling people when there's a blood drive and how

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they can sign up, because they're being really careful about

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like how many people can be inside the space and

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of thing. Um. So I think it

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>can be a little trickier to find a slot to

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it for that reason. Um, but there's lots

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of information available uh in any particular city about uh

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>where to do it, how to do it. Yeah, I

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>think you could probably do a blood donation and your

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>whatever your municipality or location is, and you will find

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a wealth of resources. Um. And I encourage people to

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>do it. It is uh, As Rebecca said, it's a

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>an incredible gift that you're giving and uh worthwhile, particularly

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>at a time when a lot in the world is

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>going wrong. If you can help something go right, that

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.120
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