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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Welcome Together Everything, So don't don't don the pod

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Speaker 1: the cast, the pot of the cast is the cast

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Speaker 1: show Now, it's not great this year so far, A

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people dead from COVID, the

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Speaker 1: most ever in this country. Canada has been shut down

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Speaker 1: by fascists and trucks, or at least part of Canada, Ottawa.

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Speaker 1: You know they've they've been Canada's dealing with UM. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, literally the exact same thing that happened to

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Speaker 1: Portland a couple of years ago. UM. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the year isn't the best ever, I would argue, I

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Speaker 1: think people would agree. Certainly does not um rack up

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Speaker 1: on my Verse first ever Best Ever list, But but

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Speaker 1: you know what, we are one month down officially congrat

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Speaker 1: If I was going to pick the best year, it

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Speaker 1: would probably be somewhere between Simpson's Season two and eight.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pree times personal people. Nationally, Yeah, all

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Speaker 1: that matters is that Simpsons was doing well. But I

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Speaker 1: think my best year, I think my whole life peaked

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Speaker 1: at a Disneyland trip. I took in nineteen to Mushrooms

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Speaker 1: pretty recent. Yeah, well, I mean it was. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the best experiences of my life, all downhill

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Speaker 1: swiftly from their late en Um, did you get to

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Speaker 1: see two in town? I've only been in Disneyland. Town

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Speaker 1: was closed when I got there. It was really really upsetting. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tunetown isn't all it's made out to be.

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Speaker 1: What you just gotta You got a mosey over to

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Speaker 1: California Venture and check out the car Land. That's what's

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Speaker 1: up anyway, tunes, That's not what we're here to talk

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Speaker 1: about today. We're gonna, I guess sit chat about some

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Speaker 1: news items and then back to Ben the boot. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the eight page masterpiece. Coming to a conclusion. Well are

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Speaker 1: we crawling? Yeah, yeah we are. But first we're first.

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Speaker 1: I said, First, we'll talk about the news a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're teasing. It's a tease everybody with something that I

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Speaker 1: will probably deal with a little more later on. It

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Speaker 1: could happen here, but I think is worth talking about,

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Speaker 1: which is redistricting. I found it an interesting I've been

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Speaker 1: reading a couple of things like uh, because I think,

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Speaker 1: like most folks, there was an assumption on all of

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Speaker 1: our behalfs based on a good amount of evidence that

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Speaker 1: redistricting was going to be a fucking disaster for the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. UM. That was like that that that the

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Speaker 1: right would do even more of the jerrymandering they did

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven after the Tea Party wave,

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Speaker 1: and it was going to be um uh. There there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of talk about how the Dems could

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Speaker 1: lose the House entirely through redistricting. UM and boy, hatty,

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Speaker 1: that's really not what's what's going down so far. There's

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Speaker 1: a good article from December one in the New York

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Speaker 1: magazine UM Intelligence or UH that is about like how

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Speaker 1: the redistricting process has gone and it's continue to go

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Speaker 1: pretty well for the Democratic Party. Um, like, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that Republicans have sole authority over a drede congressional

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Speaker 1: districts and Democrats have ninety four uh. With more than

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Speaker 1: half of the redistricting finalized at this point, UM, it

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Speaker 1: looked like it's still going to be tilted in favor

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Speaker 1: possible that the whole map is actually gonna wind up

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Speaker 1: tilted kind of in Democratic favor. There's a number of

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Speaker 1: reasons for this. Some of them are that basically after

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Speaker 1: the Tea Party wave, the redistricting, the jerrymandering the Republicans

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Speaker 1: had kind of jerrymandered about as fucking hard as they can. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that previously Democrats were less prone to jerrymandering than Republicans were,

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Speaker 1: Um kind of ends on this note. Uh quote, there

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Speaker 1: Ohio and North Carolina. In both those states, Republican trifectas

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Speaker 1: the Ohio justices seemed displeased that the Republican map blatantly

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Speaker 1: that if both of those things, both of those rulings

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Speaker 1: but one of them did, which means that like this

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Speaker 1: is actually the House map is actually significantly less gerrymandered

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Speaker 1: for the last like twelve years. That's news, which is interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think a case of like we get it's

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Speaker 1: the Republican or the Democratic Party um has not been

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Speaker 1: knocking it out of the park by most admissions, but

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Speaker 1: but not everything that the Republicans have not entirely been

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Speaker 1: having their own way, and jerrymandering is like it not

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Speaker 1: a good thing. But I guess I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: whine about frustrating because it is like, well, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: all bad. It shouldn't exist, and uh it should the

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Speaker 1: master just shouldn't look like that. And we're now in

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Speaker 1: this sort of back and forth of like, well you're

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Speaker 1: doing it to us really really extremely so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: but it's still fucked. It's still ridiculous. It's also though,

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Speaker 1: like what are you gonna do? Just let them do

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Speaker 1: it exactly, Like no, this is this is kind of

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Speaker 1: the dims doing the thing that like we've all been

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Speaker 1: pissed at, which is like, you guys never actually play

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Speaker 1: the same game. Here they are and they're doing good.

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Speaker 1: So I guess part of me is also like, so

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Speaker 1: jerrymandering necessarily, like that will be the issue. There is

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Speaker 1: One does end with the note um, the biggest threat

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Speaker 1: dismal poll numbers. So you know, one of those things

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Speaker 1: like for decades it's been this way that like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mid terms and Biden has been in office for a year,

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Speaker 1: and it's time to start. Oh yeah, I mean every

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Speaker 1: it never ends, it all bleeds together. I mean it

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Speaker 1: talking about primaries. Yeah, it's like an unlivable situation. Um,

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Speaker 1: Basically kind of a year ago, I was looking at it,

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Speaker 1: it's like, all right, well, the things that are going

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Speaker 1: a bit different. The Dems did not hump a bunk

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Speaker 1: when it came to redistricting. Um they did. They did

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Speaker 1: completely ship the bed when it came to being a

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Speaker 1: I pardon the capital writers. I'm gonna in democracy all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, all these things, and like who's going

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Speaker 1: to be fun happening. So, you know, I think we're

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Speaker 1: all in agreement here that the number one thing we

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Speaker 1: passing in bed for for both Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? Look, they've lived well beyond the

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Speaker 1: average lifespan of an American citizens. They just slip sweetly

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Speaker 1: into sleep. Yeah, just a nice peaceful passing as together Titanic,

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Speaker 1: they've been fucking this whole time. Learn that would be

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Speaker 1: that is a fair prediction. That would be really fun.

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Speaker 1: Portland Business Alliance, which is we talked about this on

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Speaker 1: a few episodes. They control a significant chunk through these

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Speaker 1: he absolutely what else was dressed? No, um, but whatever

425
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: it looked like, who knows, But whatever it looked like,

426
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: it's got dirt underneath it under that uniform. That is

427
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: an appearance of some kind. The mountain was rocky, far

428
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: less smooth than it appeared from a distance, like all things.

429
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: That's just me adding that. Sorry, oh well, I mean

430
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: the mountain was rocky, far less smooth than it appeared

431
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: from a distance, to which I added, yeah, like all

432
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: things are like, yeah, it's like murry from a distance.

433
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's more detailed now whatever. Anyway, the

434
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: darkness of the mountain concealed it's craggy surfaces. Now, as

435
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: he climbed down into a crevice, the light disappeared for

436
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: a moment. When he climbed up again, it stood before

437
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: him a door in the ledge. Above the door, an

438
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: inscription had been pounded into the flat black rock, all caps,

439
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: the creed of ignorance. Wait, so is the light the door? Yeah,

440
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: coming from the door. It's coming from the door the

441
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: door in the ledge, which is like the ledge of

442
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: some ledge he's on, really really like just like a

443
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: terrible description of climbing a mountain. Yeah, time, it's just

444
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: like three he gets there. The mountain was rocky, far

445
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: less smooth than it appeared from a distance. The darkness

446
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: of the mountain concealed his craggy services. Now as he

447
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: climbed down into a crevice. The light disappeared for a moment.

448
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: When he climbed up again, it stood before him a

449
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: door in the ledge. That's it. It's really bad, really bad.

450
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: So the mountain, the mountain is rocking, you can't tell

451
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: from a distance. And then got there. But at his

452
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: first description of climbing up the mountain included climbing down.

453
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: So it's confusing, like you're supposed to like it's there's

454
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with including that detail. But you haven't

455
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: told me that you started. Oh yeah, no, he didn't

456
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: start exactly like I climbed down, then back up? Were

457
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: you climbing up? Okay, and the like. Yeah. In the

458
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: middle of describing what the mountain looked like closer up

459
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: than from a distance, he's saying, now and now I'm

460
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: climbing down to a crevice. It's just very awkward and weird.

461
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: But Ben she clunky, clunky, the creed of ignorance. He

462
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: gazed up at it, wondering, do you understand it? The

463
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: voice came from inside the door. It beckoned him closer, No,

464
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: he answered, good, said the voice, come in. Don't be afraid.

465
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: He edged through the door, hot that does fund. You

466
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: gotta get that. The light inside was extraordinarily bright, oddly harsh.

467
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: It illuminated a sparse marble room lined with a wall

468
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: of books. He had never seen so many books. Actually,

469
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: he had never seen a book at all. They were

470
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: that's my favorite. You know what it is? Then, okay,

471
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: look include lines that make the entire story derail as

472
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: you underway, how I have to say. I mean, he's

473
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: done this a million times already in this one, like

474
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: referring to things like that that he that he doesn't know.

475
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: He does know, like because like the mountain, which I've

476
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: never seen before, like or the Ministry of Education, which

477
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't because like the narrator is omniscient. It's the

478
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: third person narrator, so it's not necessarily from the character's

479
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: point of view. It's just awkward and weird to say

480
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff because he's done it, did it bad,

481
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: and he did it wrong. He did about it wrong.

482
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: But also when he's saying, actually, you've never seen a

483
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: book at all. They were obsolete. He had been told,

484
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: so he like knows the word book. He's been told

485
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: books are obsolete, but like he doesn't know what it is.

486
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: There's so many questions. It's the ship that is so

487
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: consistently fascinating about the badness of Ben's story. Um, where

488
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: you can what what's actually going on is he's realizing

489
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: as he's whiting. He's like punching it up as he's writing,

490
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: but he doesn't like go back and edit anything to

491
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: make it flow. So he's like the wall was lined

492
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: in books. Oh you know what he should not know

493
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: when a book is at all I'll just include that

494
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: after him say that's what I mean is that I

495
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: sometimes feels like or to me, it feels like maybe

496
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: one person read it, and he just sloppily adds in

497
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: extra sentences to like, maybe this is a spot where

498
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: I can do something about books. So it's not well

499
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: thought out, it's just thrown in. That is, if he

500
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: even let somebody read this, you know that maybe one

501
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: round of notes and was like, oh, I'll do it

502
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: here where they put the note not think He's like,

503
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: he's not easy. I got this. I can knock it

504
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: out in a half hour, and he types it in. UM. Anyway,

505
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: after he hotly edged through the doorway. Uh, he saw

506
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: the books. They were absolute he had been told, so

507
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: he'd never seen one all, but he knew that there

508
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: were books. I guess, I don't know. It's not clear

509
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: if the narrator knows it or not. But a small

510
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: wooden table marked the corner of the room. A bed

511
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: lay along the opposite wall, and in that bed was

512
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: a tiny man, wrinkled with age, weak with decay. His

513
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: mouth his mouth grinned. Oh, I see what he's doing.

514
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: His mouth grinned, his eyes did not. Is he dead?

515
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Who are you? The man demanded. He didn't know what

516
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: to answer. He had never been asked. I see, said

517
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: the man. And what are you doing here? Silence? But

518
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: you are out here? Are you not? Outside the bubble?

519
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: He pointed out the door, the velvety purple beyond where

520
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: the meteor continued to burn brightly across the night sky.

521
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: What yeah, what's up with that meteor? How long has

522
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: it been there? This is the first and only time

523
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: he uses the word meteor in this story. And he

524
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: saw this shooting star, which is not the same thing star.

525
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, presumably that's what this person is referring to.

526
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: So he didn't know there was a bubble around him.

527
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: And he's got the word for anyway again, narratoring back

528
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: and forth. It's all bullshit. Um, it's not great, like

529
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's just not good because like he

530
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: he he saw the shooting star and then left it

531
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: at that, and then pages and pages later talking about

532
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a meteor. They are technically the same thing, but it's

533
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: like the shooting star. Shooting star is visible briefly, that's

534
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the whole. Yes, that's why we call it that. It

535
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: is a meteor that is seen briefly. So like and

536
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: so if there was an ear, he would If there

537
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: was a meteor and we're or that something we're supposed

538
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: to be continuing to see, why haven't we continued to

539
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: see it? Why hasn't continued? Like that's a guide. He

540
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: would notice it. If you star, he would notice that

541
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: it's still there away. Yeah, I mean again, I don't know.

542
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: That probably would have made it a better story, but

543
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: this is confusing. It wouldn't have made me stop when

544
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: I read that there's a meteor in the sky. Yeah,

545
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: just throwing it in there suddenly. Yeah, it would have

546
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: been better if you'd at least tried to make it

547
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: a theme, you know, that would have made sense to

548
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: within being all weird about Judeo Christianity. Um, yeah, I

549
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: can see that it would have worked better than what

550
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: he did. Okay, Yeah, it's like the phrase the meteor

551
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: continued to burn brightly, like, wouldn't continued? Yeah, all right,

552
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: because we haven't had this introduced before unless unless well,

553
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: well we're going to find a little bit out about

554
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: what this meteor is after this ad break. Oh really,

555
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, together everything back with that meteor. Oh, we

556
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to find out what the meteor is. What

557
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: the shooting star that he saw in the sky that

558
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: no one's ever seen before. He's the only one that

559
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: saw it, and it made him wake up, and then

560
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: he escaped the bubble, which has never happened before except

561
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: for maybe this old tiny man who's in this room

562
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: in the mountain that was bright in the distance, and

563
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: now he's up close after climbing down the crevice and

564
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: then back up it all right. He pointed out the

565
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: door to the velvety purple beyond, where the meteor continued

566
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: to burn brightly across the night sky. The man side. Ah,

567
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: that better. Hallie's comment, I know you don't know what

568
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: it is. Not my mind about that, suffice it to

569
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: say that it shows up once every seventy five years.

570
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Your father and mother must have seen it at some point. Okay,

571
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean I'm consuming a lot of things about his age,

572
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: his parents age, Like your father and mother must have

573
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: seen it at some point. If wait a minute, is

574
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: it is it? Is it Hayley's comment, it's those the

575
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: same things. So they just referenced it as a meteor,

576
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: and then the next line it's a comment. Well, I'm

577
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: not sure how distinctly different those things are. It doesn't matter,

578
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's it's mostly this. It's based on

579
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: the size, it's mostly the size whatever. Whatever. I'm just saying,

580
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: we're all over there. We've got a year, We've got comment.

581
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: A shooting star, more often than not, is a very

582
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: time like ball of like ice and a rock. It

583
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: burns up in the atmosphere. It's why it turns bright.

584
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: So why we can see it. Um, Usually they don't,

585
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: like you don't see a shooting star and then it

586
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: continues off into the sky. Um, it's because of its

587
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: like interacting with the atmosphere that we see it. Um.

588
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: It is technically a meteor. Um. A comet is tend

589
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: to be much larger comets. Uh, do these cycles, they were,

590
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: they returned. Holley's common is a comet. It's a very large,

591
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: uh piece of rock and ice, um that has been

592
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: on a long journey through space. Um. And it's just

593
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: it's just not clear that he was referring to a comet,

594
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: but rather a shooting star, which you see regularly in

595
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the sky if you can see a clear sky like,

596
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: oh look, briefly shooting star that's burnt up. Anyway, it's fine,

597
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: it's fine, it continue. I'm just stuck on this like

598
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: assumption that like, your father and mother must have seen

599
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: it at some point if they were if the seventy

600
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: five and over, and even then they saw it when

601
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: they were a baby whatever. At that he spoke, does

602
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: he know his parents? Like, that's what it implies. But

603
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: but no, I don't think it's the rest of it.

604
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: What this story is kind of implies the concept of

605
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: the family has been eliminated. Yeah, like in nine Okay, well,

606
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: so here we go. Your mother and father must have

607
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: seen it at some point. At that he spoke, I

608
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: never knew my mother and father. Okay, okay, there we go,

609
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: or father and mother is what he says. But you

610
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: remember the comment, I don't know what. I remember mostly

611
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: nothing but something what I see? The man nod at

612
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: his lip, and you came out here. I had to

613
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: I am not like the other Hey, you yo, you

614
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you remember the comment I don't know some

615
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: fucking magic that we're going to learn about um Because

616
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: he's not like the others. He's just right said, right there.

617
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: He's not like you don't remember your parents, but you

618
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: remember the comment. Well, he's not like the others. It's

619
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: not like the others. The man gestured to the chair

620
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: and propped himself on one arm. He looked a little

621
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: like a gnome, withered and malevolent. Let me tell you

622
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: a story he began many years ago. Humanity was diverse.

623
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: There were men and women of various races, ethnicities, abilities,

624
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: and they were all did you say various or nefarious?

625
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: We're getting a little bit of Harden Harrison berger on

626
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: rip off here too. There we go, here we go.

627
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: It's happening various various races, ethnicities, abilities, and they were

628
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: all unhappy. For no matter what measures governments tried, inequality remained.

629
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Redistribution of resources merely masked the problem. Laws directed toward

630
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: helping particular groups often ended with them being strangely disadvantaged.

631
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Pretty sure he's talking about Civil Rights Act h different abilities, bread,

632
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: different values, different belief systems. Those values and systems caused conflict.

633
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: We tried everything to solve it. We tried education, we

634
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: tried genetic treatments designed to raise the average intelligence, but

635
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: each i Q point meant a massive difference in out.

636
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, the man looked at him and he

637
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: really didn't have to work hard to get a bunch

638
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: of answers? Did he also, does this guy know what

639
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: i Q is? That's not being explained? Like this would

640
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: just be moon man talk to him his wall of

641
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: books that he will when they read. Oh yeah, him like, yeah,

642
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: what is that Q? I don't know what you're talking about?

643
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Exactly right. Again, if you're you rather have the character

644
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: like not understand any of these words, and like, you know,

645
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: maybe that leads to a moment where this man like

646
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: allizes how different he's made and he could celebrate like

647
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: it's such a success that you don't understand any of this,

648
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Like it means you know, we've worked or whatever it worked,

649
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: or you could have like him speak differently and be

650
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: like we tried to make people more intelligent. But you

651
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: know then that led to this and it does obvious

652
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: and on the nose is yeah, how lazy. I mean,

653
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: you are all listening, you know it hurts almost. It's

654
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: incredible that this is what he has arrived at. It

655
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: isn't like I'm pretty when I watched something really embarrassing

656
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. Cringe. It really makes my insides get squidgy.

657
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: We'll strap in and hopping the walk in freezer to

658
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: get that squidg ice rock gord. Okay, what's up? What's next?

659
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Al Right? So he edged through the door. The man

660
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: looked at him, peered at him. Do you know, said

661
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: the man, good lord, what it is that makes us happy?

662
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: He shook his head. Nothing makes us happy, ha ha.

663
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: But it is desire, aspiration that makes us unhappy. Ambition, jealousy,

664
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: these make us unhappy. The man who reaches for the

665
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: stars is sure to fall short. The man who reaches

666
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: out to the divine is sure to remain lonely. The

667
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: man who reaches for his toothbrush, provided that his toothbrush

668
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: is in its proper place, is satisfied. No dreams means

669
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: no unhappiness, or at least equal unhappiness, and if no

670
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: one has experienced true joy, the joy of achievement, then

671
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: no one knows what they are missing. Then no one

672
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: knows that they are missing it's typo, sorry, not my fault,

673
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: my fault. Then no one knows that they I'm missing

674
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: should be what it's not. It continues, all right, equality

675
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: is the key. Equality cannot be achieved in excellence, It

676
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: can only be achieved in mediocrity and love that the

677
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: message of this is ultimately anti equality quality. He's also

678
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: I think, taking a shot at Buddhism. Yeah, yeah, with

679
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: the desire. There's a lot here, but most of it

680
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: being that Ben is such a like just to think

681
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: about it, like existentially, such an offensive place to take

682
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: an opposition to the reality that not everybody is afforded

683
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: equal opportunities and people are dying because of it. Like

684
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: but if you, uh sorry, if you help any particular group,

685
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: it ends with them being strangely disadvantaged. Huh yep. Like again,

686
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: I have to assume he's talking about the civil rights

687
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: um that clip that's going around of him on social

688
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: media with him with the kids, Oh god, the beautiful moment. God. Alright,

689
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: uh story talk about that on even more news equality

690
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: is the key. Equality cannot be achieved in excellence. It

691
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: can only be achieved in mediocrity. And we have achieved

692
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: it within the bubble. All are equal, all want nothing,

693
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: aspire to nothing. It is perfect. It is stasis. It

694
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: took generations, three generations to breed out the intelligent, to

695
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: select out the unique. We have more disease now, but

696
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: we have no unhappiness, more poverty now, but shared by

697
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: all the secrets of science that once made men look

698
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: to the heavens have been lost to us. There were

699
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: some left over from the purge. Purges cap but lies. Sorry,

700
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Katie want something to say, nothing, No, it's it's funny,

701
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: like he's uh thinks that like this is the the

702
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: like this is the goal of like yeah, yeah, yeah,

703
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking too, is just like, oh,

704
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: this is this is what you think we want? You

705
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: think that this is the goal? What he well, I

706
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: think he would say he thinks that, like right, right,

707
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: but also yes, the intention is not this, but it's

708
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: the inevitable. This is what liberals want when they complain

709
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: about inequality, is they just want everybody to to live

710
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: in It's also funny that like okay, so Ben in this,

711
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: in this, in this world you've set up, you say,

712
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: you have more poverty now than they did before they

713
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: broke the whole world. But also you haven't shown us

714
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: any poverty and everyone has the same stuff, but everybody

715
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: seems to be fine. Yeah, it seems like there's plenty

716
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: of food. They all have balconies, like, yeah, what what

717
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: where is the poverty? Right like you? And again it's

718
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: easy to establish that Night four is a good job

719
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: of it, of like talking about the terrible swill that

720
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: they drinks beer, and like how it would require much

721
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: more thought, just like write a book. I guess he is,

722
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, mentioned that there's holes in the pants or

723
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: something like, I don't know anyway, No, he can't mention

724
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: that because I would require him describing the uniform that

725
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: he is apparently wearing anyway. Uh oh, yeah, So there

726
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: was some left over from the purge. Again, purges capitalized,

727
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: We operated on them. Most remained as they were a

728
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: few and unlucky few reverted their brains, taking over functional

729
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: operation from their damaged areas. Those Yeah, what does that mean?

730
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Damaged areas as? Areas capitalized their brains taking over functions

731
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: from Okay, I don't understand what he's saying here, but

732
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: it's I don't know it make sense. It operated on them, Uh,

733
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: some unlucky you reverted because their brains took over functional

734
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: operation from their damaged areas. Yep, alright, moving on those

735
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: we eliminated. We have achieved what no one ever thought possible,

736
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: an end to unhappiness. I'm sorry, man, you just said

737
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: that there's unhappiness. It's just everybody shares it. You can't

738
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: say this. You're very inconsistent about what the goal. Did

739
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: he say there is happiness, but everybody would share it,

740
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: or there's poverty? He said that there is. It also

741
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. No no dreams means no unhappiness or at

742
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: least equal unhappiness. Like you had him admit the thing,

743
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: So just like, have him still understand what he's saying. Whatever, man,

744
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: unhappiness ra al right. The man peered at him again,

745
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: seemed to look beyond him. Just use the word and

746
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: fuck man like sorry, The man peered at him again.

747
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: Comma seemed to look beyond him. But one man can

748
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: destroy the system. It's him. But one man can destroy

749
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: the system, one man who believes he is different, one

750
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: man who dreams, who aspires? Who wants more? Who even

751
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: feels that want? Two shadows leapt onto the wall behind him,

752
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: he glanced quickly. Flanking him were two enforcers. The withered

753
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: man pushed himself up from the bed. Are you unhappy?

754
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Said the man? He nodded. I will say that he

755
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: really should have given this fucker a name, Like every

756
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: time he says he it's after he describes this other man,

757
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: and it's just like, just like, give him a name,

758
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: have him introduced himself. Yeah, he nodded. That is unfortunate,

759
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: the man said. He hesitated, Not the man but him.

760
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: He hesitated, his eyes closed, burned behind his eyelids was

761
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: that image, the star crossing the heavens, blazing its way

762
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: through the solid soft curtain. His heart pounded in his

763
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: chest when he opened his eyes. The enforcers stood on

764
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: either side of him. No, he said, it is happiness

765
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: to be so unhappy. Who the guy the main He's

766
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: been saving that, Yeah, Ben does, He's been saving that

767
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: for the entire time, One more time to say it again. No,

768
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: he said, it is happiness to be so unhappy. Yeah,

769
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of it, okay, sure, trying to thanks, trying to

770
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: thing one might describe it as a bit of a stinker,

771
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: but I might enjoy it. I don't know. I don't

772
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: think anyone did. That's what he told me. Now pretends

773
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: he never wrote it right that it is funny that

774
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: he did eventually come to realize what a ship. Yeah,

775
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: by the I found a bright Bart review of these,

776
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: this book of short stories. There is Oh, it's it's

777
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: it's like cloying lee positive. Obviously, it's very funny. That

778
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: was before he did the one good things every time

779
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: was leave bright Bart because of did the review journalists abused? Um? No, No,

780
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: you're right though. That is like the one moment where

781
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro actually made a moral stand that took courage. Yeah,

782
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: I made a decision, did it? It was probably tough

783
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: for him? Yeah, fucking too much? Six minutes already. Oh no,

784
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: So we're on the second to last page. Oh good, Okay,

785
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's finish power thrills, do it, let's

786
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: do alright, we're at the climax. I guess you'd call it.

787
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: After he says it is happiness to be so unhappy,

788
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the man nodded. The enforcer on his right hand grabbed

789
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: him by the arm, pinioning it to his side. Okay,

790
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: but he was too fast. His brain now moving faster

791
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: than those of the enforcers. What, of course, his brain

792
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: now fast. His brain now moving faster than those of

793
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: the enforcers, got real fast brain speeding up the action.

794
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: So it's like reverse bullet time. I guess what's going on.

795
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: It's actually not Also not how people like think about

796
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: actions or whatever. You know, there's a thousand ways to

797
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: write it, but not that that's the one way. This

798
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: is the this is the thousand and one. Yeah, anyway,

799
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: it speeds up the action. He shot his foot forward. Uh,

800
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: he shot his foot forward, tripping the enforcer, and he

801
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: then he kicked him in the head. Okay. The enforcer grunted,

802
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: then lay still, then lay still. It's just so easy.

803
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: Every obstacle is so easy. Anyway, he leapt to the bookcase.

804
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: His hand gripped a volume, the pentitukee it said, and

805
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: he pulled it from the bookcase. The withered man was screaming,

806
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: now in anger or despair, he could not tell. He

807
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: swung the heavy volume, metal edged at the other enforcer,

808
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: who was moving toward him with a slow certitude. The

809
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: book crunched into the enforcers skull and he toppled to

810
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the floor with a crash. Okay, so there are terrible

811
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: I have to explain, like why this is bad, like

812
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: why this is not not good action writing? Like why

813
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: why this is deeply unsatisfying? And it's again because Ben

814
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: never does the thing that is fundamental to storytelling, which

815
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: is set up and pay off. Right, everything that is

816
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: good about a story comes down to set up and

817
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: pay off. So if you want to set up him

818
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: beating an enforce her to death with a book and

819
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: haven't mean anything at all, you have to set up

820
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, previously to him walking

821
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: into this room, he has to be broadly aware of

822
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: the idea of books and that he's forbidden from them. Now,

823
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: there's a number of ways to do this. You could

824
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: do it like in the movie Equilibrium, right where he

825
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: turns a friend in when he realizes they have banned books,

826
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: but then like it haunts him and he regrets it

827
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: or something. Or you could have him find stumble upon somewhere.

828
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: Maybe he's doing like cleanup work and he finds in

829
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: this old ruined house like a book and he he

830
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: reads a little from it, but then it gets spotted

831
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: and taken from him and he's punished. You know, you

832
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: could do it that way, Um, but you need to

833
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: set up that books that they mean anything at all

834
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: to this person because at this point we don't know

835
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: that he knows anything about what a book is supposed

836
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: to be but a club, right, Like he's not aware

837
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: that they contain knowledge. He's never seen one before. Um No,

838
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: he just knows that they're obsolete. Yeah, that they're obsolete,

839
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: but like for what what? Here's the other here? We

840
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: are all also slipping between the narrator and this guy's perspective,

841
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Speaker 1: so that when it's just the narrator saying he picked

842
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Speaker 1: up a book, but then you need to at least

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Speaker 1: establish like he wasn't sure what this was, he never

844
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Speaker 1: held one before, but like it seemed like a something

845
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: that you, whatever it is, that you can do. The

846
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: other thing we would need to set up because this

847
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: action has there's nothing that's at all satisfying about a

848
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: guy beating up some dudes and just being being good

849
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: at it, particularly he just takes him. Yeah, what would

850
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: be satisfying or could potentially be satisfying if written competently

851
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: is he has an altercation with the guards before, maybe

852
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: when they're taking away this book that he's found, um,

853
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: and he tries to fight them and they just brutalize

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00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: him um and he can't really react because he can't

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00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: even visualize the things that would be necessary to physically

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: defend himself. Um. And you know, throughout the course of

857
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: the story, he's kind of breaking down this internal programming

858
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: and that's what allows him to actually think and fight

859
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: more effectively because he can strategized because he's broken through

860
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: the and all they can do is kind of walk

861
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: forward and hit, and he's capable of like trapping them

862
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: and tricking them. And like you you again set it up.

863
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: This is why, like if you look at like I

864
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: don't know whether you're talking about like the hero's journey

865
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: or like, you know, the stuff like Dan Harmon's story circle,

866
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: there's always this moment where like the hero tries and

867
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Speaker 1: fails to do the thing that he then does at

868
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: the end of the book. That is, like the thing

869
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: that people like most is to see growth, is to

870
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: see something something fail and then succeed again. Because that's

871
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: also the most satisfying thing in life, to try something,

872
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: to fail and then to get better at it and

873
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: try again and succeed. Like that's kind of the entire

874
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: human motivation for all of society and art and inventiveness.

875
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: Um so you might want to include a little bit

876
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: of that in your story anyway. That's why this is bad.

877
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: So let's let's finish this crap spackle. Yeah. So he

878
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: boringly crunched an enforceder skull with a book that meant

879
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: nothing to him. Uh to recap he faced the withered man.

880
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: Is there anything out there? He said, or asked whatever? Uh? No,

881
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: said the withered man, there isn't. How can you be

882
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: so certain? I can't. But man has been searching for

883
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: so long and he has never found it. He moved

884
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: towards the withered man and stood over him. You took

885
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: my chance to search from me, from us all. It

886
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: was my right. The word popped into his head. Unbidden

887
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: our right to search. I protected you, the man protested.

888
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: A swell of pain touched his chest. He's so specially

889
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: he remembers the word right. A swell of pain touched

890
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: his chest. Pity. He had heard the word but did

891
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: not know its meaning. What did he hear the word

892
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: from some enforcer? I guess, Yeah, where did he hear

893
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: the why did he hear? What was the again? Don't

894
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: say that have him hear the word earlier in some

895
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: sort of context that no, write a story. We gotta

896
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: do it now, Like I mean, at no point has

897
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: he even really like people don't really socialize even Okay, yeah,

898
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: I would like this stargazing together and fuck so maybe

899
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: they are they play cards once a week. Anyway. He

900
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: apparently heard the word pities sometime, but it doesn't matter where,

901
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: because nothing matters. Who cares. He pushed the man down

902
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: onto the mattress, reached for the man's pillow, placed it

903
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: over the man's face, used the word and then once

904
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: in your fucking life, all right? He pushed the man

905
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: down onto the mattress. Comma reached for the man's pillow.

906
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: Comma placed it over the man's face. Period. The man gasped.

907
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: He at the last as his old body shuddered. He grunted.

908
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: What he's trying to Okay, the man gasped, He fought

909
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: at the last. He's referring to the gasp, But there

910
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: is another sentence between the fucking the man gasped and this. Okay, sure,

911
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm calming myself down. As his old body shuddered, he

912
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: grunted something that sounded like a plea a last hope. No,

913
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: wait no, he said, as the man drew his last breath.

914
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: You protected us from our humanity, from our possibility. May

915
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: God the word jumped again to his mouth. God damn it. Okay,

916
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: share ben, May God forgive you. When the man was dead,

917
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: he dragged him outside onto the mountain. Haley's comment, uh, huh,

918
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: because he suddenly knows now huh. Well, also because it's

919
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: Hallie's comment, right, you're the one. How does he spell

920
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: it h A L E? Y Oh yeah, it's h

921
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: l L It was correct originally. Yeah, okay, that's just funny. Yeah,

922
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: this is funny. Um, this is the one of the

923
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: two times he fucking referenced the fucking one real thing

924
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: we all can google anyway. Hayley's comment still glowed in

925
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: the sky. It's after trail, burning the night into brightness.

926
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: He buried the man on the okay. Then, using the

927
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: comment capitalized as his guy, he turned his back on

928
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: the bubble and began walking. He did not look back.

929
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: Where's the So he's going to die in the woods

930
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: because he has no survival skills or knowledge. I guess

931
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: I guess been saying that his God filled his mind

932
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: with all this knowledge. So I'm sure he's going to

933
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: be a new Abraham and whatnot, special special cut boy.

934
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: But like nothing that Ben has established would make him

935
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: even remotely capable of saying the thing that he said

936
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: to the guy at the end, because he doesn't know

937
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. No, it needs to be divine intervention. Um. Yeah,

938
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: which is fun and and bad and it's just a

939
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: bad it's a bad story, bad story. Oh it's over,

940
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: that's the that's done. Oh yeah, he well he began

941
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: walking away from the bubble and he did not look back,

942
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: and that is the end of that. Well, I'm happy

943
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: it's over all, aren't we? All? Said? The man boy?

944
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: He not the man the main character did something else.

945
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: All of these things are so disappointing, even for Ben. Um.

946
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: I think they met my expectations, in some cases exceeded

947
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: them by being so good. I just wanted to write

948
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: his full length sci fi novel. I know we're going

949
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: to and I desperately desperately wanted to just be this

950
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: but longer, like it would be so freaking funny if

951
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: you couldn't even come up with a second idea. We're

952
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: going to get someone on the inside this, I promise you. Yeah,

953
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: I swear by Haley's comment. We promise. Yes. I was

954
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna say, actually it's Haley's comment. No, you did you

955
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: did it wrong rightly? Oh boy, this has been fun.

956
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: I guess it's back to our normal bullshit next week.

957
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: The Shooting Star of podcasting, that's what they call us,

958
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: and the media and the comment and it's in the

959
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: sky and it's very bright and lighting up the mountain

960
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: with our pods and casting. All right, cool, we did it,

961
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: We did it, We did it. Hooray. I love you all. Yeah.

962
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well this will probably be it for us

963
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: and Ben Shapiro until he comes out with that dystopian

964
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: science fiction novel which Hugo Award winning. It is the

965
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: only thing that I now look forward to in life. Yeah,

966
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get our our paws on it first,

967
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: get the band back together again to do this. Yeah,

968
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: that's going to come out in six months, and we're

969
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to slowly gather you up like the Avengers.

970
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: We'll find Cody fly fishing outside of Montana, Katie, You're

971
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: going to be planning an elaborate bank heistuh with a

972
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: with a cast of of of Cluney esque characters. Oh

973
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: my god, it's going to be great. Sophie's going to

974
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: be designing the lunar Lander. Um, it's it's gonna be

975
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: We'll have like a fun little little montage as we

976
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: have to grab everybody and well because we have to.

977
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: It was out. Yeah, well I'm pulling you back in

978
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff exactly. We gotta we gotta break

979
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 1: into uh Sophie's new place of business, uh, to steal

980
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: the lunar Lander, because we're going to fly Moon and

981
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: it's the only way to it's the only way to

982
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: get to the last copy of Ben Shapira's dystopian science fiction.

983
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: We could make a whole career and a hit show

984
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: off of just you know, Oceans eleven. But we're just

985
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: trying to find the drafts that Ben doesn't want anyone

986
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: to see. If he wor right, I think yeah, I

987
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: think we're onto something all right. For now, we're gone.

988
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: We're out of here. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh,

989
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you're right, we're out of here. Everything everything worst Year

990
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: ever is a production of I heart Radio. For more

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01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,360
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