WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Patrick Ewing, Old School College Hoops 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.400 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.680 Radio final hour on this Thursday. Patrick Ewings said to 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.479 join us. Just talked to Isaiah Thomas. It was fun. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.280 You start to take a trip down memory lane. Stat 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.040 of the Day brought to you by Penini America, the 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.040 official trading cards. So The Dan Patrick Show, NBA Playoffs continue, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.360 Spurs Thunder tomorrow night on NBC and Peacock. You can 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.680 see us on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. Download the 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.400 app if you haven't done so. Eight seven seven to three. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.720 DP Show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.240 handle the DP Show. The Knicks are six and a 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.280 half point favorites tonight as they were in Game one 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.440 and the Thunder over the Spurs last night thirty for 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.600 SGA to tie the series at a game apiece. Keeping 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.400 an eye out on updates for dearon Fox and Dylan Harper. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.479 Not sure their availability on Friday night when the Spurs 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.760 will be one and a half point favorites as of now. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.280 All right, poll question there for the final hour of 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.720 the program. Deal and then we'll get to Patrick Ewing. Yeah, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:03.960 we got a couple options. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:05.200 You want to do it? 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:10.360 Aaron Rodgers or another of Tony Wemby question, you can 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.000 give me Aaron Rodgers all right? Do you actually think 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.479 this will be Aaron Rodgers last season? 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.160 Yes? Or now? 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.080 Oh yeah, I'm gonna take him in his word. I 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.080 have no reason not to. I mean, I covered a 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.880 couple of Sugar Ray Leonard's retirements, including his first one 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.200 in Baltimore, and I think he had five retirements after that. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.600 But that's boxers. Boxers don't retire. The phone just stops 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.800 ringing because we've seen Tyson get back in the ring, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.800 of Ander Holyfield get back in the ring, Roberto Durant. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.520 I mean, they're all like, do you want to put 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:49.920 Manny Pakia, Patrick Ewing the Hall of Famer and now 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.640 the number one New York Knicks fan. Man, look at 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.000 you walking around Madison Square Garden. You got your your 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.840 hat on or whatever that hat and chapeau that you've got. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.720 It's like you you own the building. Patrick. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.440 No, I don't know about owning the building, but I 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.000 do feel like it's one of my homes. You know, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:18.839 I've been I've had fifteen years, fifteen great years here 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.600 in New York as an athlete. You know, four also 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.639 four more as a college as a college athlete. So 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.239 I've spent a lot of time in the garden. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.280 Do you get to choose who you sit next to 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:32.560 in the front row? 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.280 Well, you know what, they've been putting me next to 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.520 my good friend John Starts, But I might have to move. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:47.600 He's just too fired up. I'm like, I keep telling him, John, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.040 you're gonna get us a check. You keep trying to 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.560 get onto the floor. I'm like, God, calm down, No, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.399 But you know what, you know what, Dan, It's it's 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.799 great being around the guy. You know, the former guys, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.600 you know, former teammates, and you know, we all feel 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.840 like we are part of it because you know, we 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.000 have bled, bleds, you know, sweat and tears, a lot 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.000 of the things that they they're going through now. So 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.120 you know, we're just did to support them. And I 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.280 think that Leon and West and Macedona have done a 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.639 great job of making us feel like we are part 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:24.920 of it. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.640 How do you explain what happened in game one at 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:28.079 the garden? 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.600 Look, you know, it's never over until it's over. You 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.440 know a lot of people thought that the game was 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.400 over some people, and I might have been one of 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.280 those people. That turned the TV off if I was 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.160 at home. But I thought that Jalen Brunson did an 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.440 outstanding job of putting on his Superman cape and being 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.600 able to score all those points for US. Then we 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.600 locked down defensively. I thought that the coaching staff made 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.640 some you know, shine Landry came in and did an 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.800 outstanding job on the defensive end for US. O g 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.720 made some some big plays for US. Kat was able 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.320 to do some things. You know. I just thought that 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.200 the team as a whole did everything right at the 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.280 right time to be able to come away with that win. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.960 What's your most memorable moment in the garden? 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.080 You know what, I've been asked that a lot, and 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.120 I really don't have one particular. You know, I guess 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.400 if I was just gonna, you know, put it in 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.760 as one. You know, when we beat Indiana to finally 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.200 make it to the to the final. You know, we've 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.360 been trying to get to the finals for a lot 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.400 of years and that was my first opportunity to be 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.680 able to get there. And uh, you know, we struggled 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.320 the game game six, but we were able to get 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.800 it done in game seven. You know, I thought that 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.320 I showed my emotion. You know, my gratitude for the fans, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.400 for all the that they had to endure and we 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.360 had to endure. When I got up on that tape 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.200 with my arms stretch out, was trying to show them 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:05.160 my appreciation. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.520 When did you stop hating Reggie Miller? 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.799 You know that, you know, tell me sometimes I wonder, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.240 you know, do I really still hate him? Do I 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.200 like him? Now? But no? I mean, you know, we 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.960 we as athletes, we go through some some ups and 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.919 some downs, and we had some great some great time 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.960 battling against those guys, the pacers and us. We were 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.360 built and you know a lot of in the same way. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.640 Reggie was a master. You know, if they if they, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.960 if they you know now they talk about flopping all 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.880 the time. That guy used to flop all the time. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.960 But then he also, you know, just call him an actor. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.520 He's a great actor. I think he would have gotten 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.640 an Academy Award for his acting. And he knew how 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.160 to poll strings, and you know, he knew how to 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.479 you know, pop certain people's strings. He polled John string 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.200 a few times, got John to head butt him. But 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.880 you know, it's all water under the bridge now I 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.880 see him. I hug him. I showed the respect that 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.320 I have for his game and also the things that 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.480 he's doing now. He's his life after basketball, well after 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.160 playing basketball. He's done an outstanding job of getting into 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.880 his next career. So all you can do is just 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.240 admire the work that he does. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.880 Talking to Patrick Ewing the Hall of Famer, you faced 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.279 Ralph Samson, I try to remind people that Ralph he 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.320 Wally's not as good as Win ben Yama is now. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.080 But to be that skilled at that height and being 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.080 on the outside, being able to shoot, being inside as well, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.080 playing both ends of the floor. Do you see similarities 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.320 with Ralph Sampson and Victor Winbanyama? 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.599 Definitely. You know, I've been talking to a lot of 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.600 people about the same thing. You know, I see Ralph 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.480 would have been a great player in this era. In 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.800 our era, you know, people used to get mad at 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.480 you if you were a big and you don't get 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.720 into the poles, so you start shooting too many jump shots. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.160 And you know, that was Ralph's game. He was a 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.239 skilled big. He was you know victors height, he's seven four. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.640 He wanted to be a perimeter big. But in our 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.200 era people look down on that, but I thought that 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.960 he would this era would have embraced him and embraced 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.920 his abilities, and which is what they're doing with Victor. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.240 And Victor is a special young man. Every time I 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.920 watch him play, I see how special that he is. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.000 Yeah, he's got these unique traits that you know, you 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.080 don't want your seven foot five guys shooting a three pointer. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.880 But in today's game we kind of accept it. Like 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.440 even with you at Georgetown, I never knew you could 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.880 shoot that well. And then you get to the NBA 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.440 and all of a sudden, you're hitting fifteen eighteen footers. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.320 I'm like, why didn't coach Thompson unleash this in college? 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.400 Well, you know, like I said, back in those era, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.640 they wanted us to be back to the basket dunking it. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.440 Even when I first got to New York, they I 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.120 remember talking to Dicky McGuire and he said the exact 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.800 same thing. He's like, Patrick, I never knew you could shoot. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.679 And Dickie was was, you know, the head scout for 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.320 for the Knicks for a lot of years. His numbers 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.680 and the raptors next to mine, I do have to 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.720 say next to mine. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:31.400 But. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.960 He just said, you know, I really never thought that 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.880 you could shoot. I thought all you could do was 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.880 block shots and dump. Well, I say, you know, Dick, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.400 you know, the Big John was like, son, get your 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.040 butt in the post. Work on those. You know, when 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.160 you go to the NBA, then you can then you 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.560 can show them the rest of your game. But you know, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.800 I always could shoot. I could I could shoot in 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:56.440 high school. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:58.080 You know. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.760 I developed an more all around games as I got older. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.520 But I thought that, you know, I showed that that 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.960 I had the ability to do these things, and you 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.280 know what, could I do it? In this era? I 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.760 didn't really shoot many threes or I'm not sure if 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.600 i'd be profession at as a lot of these guys are. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.920 When be uh Yoke you know yr kids and uh 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.520 and be those guys you know, you know, but if I, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.240 if I practiced, practiced it, I probably would be just 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:30.679 as proficient as they are. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.080 I got you with nineteen three pointers. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.680 Yeah, that's too many. Back in my era, that's too many. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:46.120 When when would you put Joker in a top ten 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.400 player of all time? Uh? Is he close to being 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.720 a top ten player of all time? 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.400 You know what Joker is? He's another one that's special. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:01.640 You know his you know, whatever he he lacks in athleticism, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.400 he you know, definitely makes up in all the other 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.120 things that he does. He plays every night, he very 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.280 rarely gets hurt. He can shoot, he can pass. He's 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:18.600 more of a facilitator than than most bigs. We were 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.440 all the ones that you know we're getting. You know, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.280 we had to depend We played a dependent position. He 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.959 doesn't need UH to play a dependent position. He can 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.920 bring it, bring it down, he can score, he rebounds, 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.559 He does all the things that UH and that this 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.559 era that big need to do. And you know, I'm 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.600 not gonna sit here and say he is the greatest 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.200 player of the greatest big of all time, because there 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.040 was a lot of great bigs. Keem was a great 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.680 big in my era Colleen before that. So there's a 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.040 you know, shock you guy to talk about shocking all 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:58.760 those guys. But you know, he's definitely special. I would 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.440 have loved to have tried to impede against him, to see, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.640 you know, you know how I would fare against that 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.160 talented young man. I had the opportunity to meet him 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.600 this year when we played in Denver. I went up 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.640 to him and told him that, you know, I love 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.120 what he's doing, continue to do it, and he's a 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.160 very special player. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.800 What do you remember about facing Kareem at the end 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:21.440 of his career. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.000 Hey, I'm gonna tell you a story. So we're getting 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.439 ready and Rick Bettino was our coach at this at 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:34.319 this time, and we are getting ready to face the Lakers, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.720 and I'm like, you know, Rick was like, no, we're 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.280 not going to double Kareem. He's getting older. And I'm like, Rick, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.400 he may be getting older, but he is still good. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.839 So Kareem got heated, he got hot, and I don't 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.120 care what I did. I could push him to the 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.920 three point line. He still was rolling that skyhook and 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.760 I said, Rick, what did I tell you we need 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:04.400 to double him? No, you know, Kareem, I'm. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.319 Looking at the video. He hit six, six consecutive sky 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.120 hooks over you. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.000 Yes, he's I mean people talk when they talk about 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.080 greatest of all time, I mean they never you know, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.920 they very very rarely put him in there. And what 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.480 he did was was special. I mean, you know, he 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.080 was seven to he had he developed a shot that 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.600 was virtually unstoppable. I remember when pat Riley came to 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.400 the next he tried to get me to you know, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.800 develop a sky hook. I'm like, coach, that's not my game. Uh. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.240 The captain was was special. He developed that. That's his 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.720 that's his thing. I'm a jump shooter. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.680 Wait, you didn't want to even try to do the 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.280 sky hook. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.560 I just didn't. I just didn't get the feel of 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.920 the sky hook. I was more of a of a 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.959 jump hook guy. You know. I used the jump hook, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.280 as you know, one of the pieces the pieces to 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.439 my to my to my game. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.800 Do celebs come up to you at the garden and 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:10.680 want pictures? 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.840 Yes they do. And you know what, I'm like, Like 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.640 Lenny Kravitz was at the game, the last game, and 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.920 I'm like, man, I'm a huge Lenny Kravits fan. I'm like, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.640 forget you asking me for the picture. I need to 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.840 take a picture. You know, I've got to send this 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.600 to all my kids because you know, it's it's funny. 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.480 I was at a game last year and I brought 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.440 my kids with me, and you know that the next 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:40.280 asked me to take a picture with with a group, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.600 one of the one of the K pop groups. So 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.199 I didn't know who they were. So I took the 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.520 picture of my kids, Like dad, you know, that's probably 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.160 the most famous person that you were ever taking a 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:54.520 picture with. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:55.680 I'm like, what, who? 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:57.120 What? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:56.920 What? 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.160 I was like I had I hadn't. I couldn't believe it. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.360 Well in their world k pop, yeah, those are big stars. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.080 They don't care about Lenny Kravinz, who's you know in 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.280 his sixties, or even Tracy Morgan or Spike Lee. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:17.240 Oh yeah, I know they do. They do. They have 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.400 more of a knowledge about all these things than I didn't, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.080 you know, and than I do. My I was so 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.560 tunnel vision as a player. I was just locked in 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.400 on trying to be the best I could be as 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.280 a player. I wasn't I didn't care who was in 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:33.920 the stand, just as long as it was filled with 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.240 all of our fans. And you know, one thing I 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.200 love us before you go down, one thing I love 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.240 about our fans. I don't care. I'm in Boston and 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.600 I'm like, oh my god, I never saw New York 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.440 Knicks fans in Boston. Maybe in LA or what happened 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.120 in Philadelphia. I could not believe that. I'm like, we 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.760 we we show up, we show up, and we show 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.720 out on these road games. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.040 Did it ever bother you that Spike Lee was a 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.560 Knicks fan, but he was friends with Michael Jordan during 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.040 doing those commercials. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.480 No, you know, I mean Michael and I were friends. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.880 We got to meet each other in college before you know, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.320 in high school. I should say we've developed the friendship. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.280 We stayed friends, still are friends today. But once we 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.480 get on that floor, as you as you saw, and 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.800 it wasn't just about the friendship. We're both trying to 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.000 kick each other's butts. And he lets me know every 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.400 time I see him or I talk to him, Daddy, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.520 I was not able to beat him. He's the you know, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.760 we people talk about Larry Bird talking trash. I think 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.800 he's probably the biggest trash talker that I've ever been around. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.240 Wait, did Larry talk trash to you? 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:51.880 Did he ever? 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.760 I mean, if I saw Larry today, he still probably 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.640 talk trash. You know. I think that's how we got 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.240 to be friends with the Dream Team. You know, he 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.920 was talking so much trash. Uh, you know, he talked 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.880 trash and we played against each other, but back then, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.960 so now we were around each other all the time, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.280 and he talks about how you know, his team would 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.560 have always used to kick our butts, and I was 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.800 more of a power forward than a center. And you know, 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.400 we just we just got into all these you know, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.440 Joe King things, and we called ourselves the Harry and 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:34.080 Larry Show. But Larry was a great competitor, a great teammate, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.120 and I got the opportunity to become good friends with 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.960 him doing that during that time. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.640 But you know that the Dream Team birthed all these 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.920 great players from around the world. Like you look at 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.480 the timeline, Patrick, I mean, I think you can you 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.280 can point right towards the Dream Team dominating everybody. Next thing, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.440 you know, you got a player out of Africa, out 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.760 of Germany, out of you know, you know, the Croatia, 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.240 I mean, variety of places due to the Dream Team. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:09.440 Yeah, everywhere. I agree with you, because every other country 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.159 in the world soccer was the number one sport. I 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.120 used to want to play soccer when I was growing 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.960 up in Jamaica. I wanted to be the next PLA 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.040 moved to America fell in love with this game of basketball, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.280 and I thought that, you know, when David Stern decided 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.600 to let the NBA players play in the Olympics, that 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:32.280 that made basketball a global sport. It was loved all 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.239 over the world, and I think that that was one 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.879 of the smartest things that he did. So everybody who 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.840 used to play soccer at that time, football everywhere else 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:45.560 except for here. That's when they fell in love with basketball, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.480 and you can you saw a huge boom and everyone 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.240 wanting to play basketball after that. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:58.040 Olympics have fun tonight. Behave tell John Starks to keep 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.840 it down a little bit so you don't get teed 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:01.840 up out there. And thank you again. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.120 Oh my pleasure, my friend. And it's always great to 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.800 be on your show. I still need to come up 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.880 there and be in that that man cave. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.000 Yeah, I'd like to bring you up here in school 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.280 you a little bit, you know, maybe take. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.760 You, take you Hey, look you might be able to now, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.360 you might be able to now, haven't I haven't really 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:20.960 been shooting? 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.959 Yeah, thank you Patrick. When we were in San Antonio, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.720 I think at the Final four, and I had the 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.679 ball during a commercial break and Patrick came out on 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.160 me and I'm like, uh oh, and then I did 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:41.160 a little hesitation and ended up somehow scoring on him 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.679 and that was it. I was one and done, just 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.880 walked off. I have finger raised like I'm Larry Bird. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.560 The three point shooting contest. All right, let me take 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.880 a break. We're back after this. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.640 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.359 Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.639 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart a App. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.000 Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:05.600 Would mean a lot to have you join us on 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.120 our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.359 is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you it's a spin 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.000 off of it Ben Matherer Show, a cult hit overnights 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.440 on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if you will 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.760 a world will? We chat with captains of industry in media, sports, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.160 and more every week explore some amazing facts about human 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.720 nature and more. Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.359 Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:30.240 get your podcasts. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.560 It's always great to talk to former greats of the game, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.480 and I never take it for granted. You when you're 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:41.000 around Isaiah, Patrick, Ewing, Reggie whoever it might be, you 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.000 get guys who were in their fifties and sixties and 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.760 you've been with them almost every step of the way. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.560 Certainly Patrick Ewing his freshman year at Georgetown. I remember 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:56.320 I went there and they didn't allow the players, certainly freshmen, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.280 to do any interviews. And if John Thompson was going 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.199 to sit down with then you got your interview. And 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.200 I remember sitting down with Big John, and he was 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.320 always intimidating, but he wanted to be intimidating. He wanted 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.399 his teams to be intimidating. And therefore Patrick Ewing was 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.280 just a mystery. You were like, I don't know who 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.800 this is. He doesn't do interviews. The way he played, 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.159 he was so aggressive, he was so defensive minded, and 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.240 then he gets to the NBA. He's not defensive minded. 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.560 He's shooting fifteen eighteen foot jumpers. It was like, now 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.240 that was college NBA. I'm shooting yes, Mark. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.760 DP Pauly just might be a question for you guys. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.600 Can you guys explain to me the Georgetown phenomenon because 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.160 Patrick Ewhan played the bulk of his career in New 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.280 York City at the Garden, but he's probably more iconic 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.600 and more famous for what he did at Georgetown. He 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.120 had an all time Hall of Fame career in New York. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.680 Well, I think you know there was something different about 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.880 Georgetown basketball and they would have those starter jackets and 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.520 everybody wanted like you were wearing Georgetown gear because and 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.160 it was for a younger audience because they were like, man, 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.160 I love the way they play. You know, they had 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:11.879 those gray uniforms that were ugly, but you know they 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:16.520 they just had this persona, this bravado. When they came 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.959 on the floor, it felt like they were already up 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.960 five nothing. And then you know that National title game, 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.240 Patrick's blocking every shot. I think John Thompson so said 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.159 go after every shot to start that game against Jordan 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.040 in North Carolina, and he might have go attended five 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.200 or six shots in a row. It was we're gonna 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.639 send a message whenever they put something up, we're gonna 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.400 go after it. And they played defense. I mean that's 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.280 I always marvel when you know people talk about today's athlete. 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:50.240