1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about our obligation to a country and a country's. 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Obligation to us. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: When I say I'm talking about citizens, we're about to 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: talk about Abbygate Afghanistan. You see, it's there are just 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: some realities of life. And one of those realities of 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: being a citizen, small tribe, big country is it's going 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to be younger people who fight wars, just this. 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: It's a young man's game, as they say, And it's. 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Going to be older people who direct wars, younger people 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: who fight in them, younger people who die in them. 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: What's that old saying? Stop my saying. War is old 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: men talking and young men dying. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: So I get that. I understand that, But. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: We still have to understand that the country you die for, 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: the tribe you die for, as obligations to you, as 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: a young soldier, as a young marine who, whatever you 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: may be, the country has an obligation to you. Yes, 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: you may die in combat, but your country owes you 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: two things, two things. One, don't throw my life away 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: with negligence, with corruption, evil, don't throw it away I 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: may have to die, but don't throw it away, don't 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: make it nothing. And two, if I lose my life 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: for my country. My country owes me a debt of gratitude. 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: They do. The rest of the country needs to see 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: that to inspire more future patriots. My family left behind 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: needs to see that if you die for your country, 27 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: you deserve to not have your life thrown away, and 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: your country owes you a debt of gratitude. The men, 29 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: the old men who sent you to die, should speak 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: your name, should honor your sacrifice. That is how it 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: should work, whether it's a major country or a tiny tribe. 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: And today's the four year anniversary of Abbygate, and neither 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: of those two things happened for our brave thirteen warriors 34 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: who gave up their lives on that day. Just a 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: little recap, a little refresher. I know you already know, 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: but we left Afghanistan. Why did we leave the way 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: we left? Because we were already going to go Trump 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: had already said, hey, twenty twenty one, we're gonna get out. 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Why did we leave the way we left? Well, this 40 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: is another one of those things that just makes you 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: makes your head want to explode. The bad deministration knew 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: we were coming up on the anniversary of September eleventh. 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: All they cared about were poll numbers, approval ratings. Didn't 44 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: care about lives lost, sacrifices made. These things never occurred 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: to those demonic communists. They wanted something to celebrate on 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: September eleventh, so they simply issue the order. State Department 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: simply issued the order. Hey, everyone get out. Wait, what 48 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: when now we're just leaving? What about all the equipment? No, 49 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: leave it? We're leaving, okay? What about what about the 50 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: terrorists we have locked up at Bagra Mair Force Base. 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Who cares let them out? We're leaving, okay, And so 52 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: we left, and just the callousness of the people who 53 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: run this country. We leave right when basically the entire 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Biden administration goes on vacation. Do you remember that I 55 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: haven't forgotten? As we leave and Afghanistan begins to fall 56 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: immediately to the Taliban, immediately, Joe Biden goes on vacation. Surprise, surprise, 57 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: he was always on vacation. Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln 58 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: goes on vacation. Jensaki, White House Press set goes on vacation. 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: You can't even get a hold of anybody. We leave, 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: The countries collapse, and there's the hello, anybody there nobody's there, 61 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: even at the White House, so it looks bad. The 62 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: United States of America just caused the country's collapse after 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: occupying it for twenty years. They dragged poor Joe Biden 64 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: off the beach to sit down with committed communist George 65 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Stephanopolis in this as our country, as we're watching our 66 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: country be embarrassed. This was the answer of the President 67 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: of the United States of America. 68 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: But we've all seen the pictures. We've seen those hundreds 69 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: of people packed into a C seventeen. We've seen Afghan's. 70 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: Falls four days ago, five days ago. 71 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Makes me so angry. 72 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: It's four or five days ago. I was stressing about 73 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: four or five days ago, evil people. And so what 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: happened from there, well, that's what brought us to this tragedy. 75 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: You see, we have had a very secure Air Force 76 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: base Bogram, a secure place to conduct operations, honestly, to 77 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: get out of the country, to evacuate safely, smartly. We 78 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: had a secure place. Biden administration handed that to the animals. 79 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: So then they didn't like the optics of people falling 80 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: from C one thirties, and they decided they had to 81 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: do something, and so they just grabbed a bunch of Marines, sailors, 82 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Army troops and sent them into a civilian air force 83 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: a civilian air base, not an air base, sorry, civilian airport. 84 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: It's not even an air base. They tried to make 85 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: it an air base. You know, you try to secure it, 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: but you've been to civilian airports before. They're not made 87 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: to be secured in the same way a military base 88 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: is made to be secured. It's just you don't have 89 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the facilities there to make it that way. And it 90 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: ends up we have a bunch of our troops standing 91 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: in crowds of peace. Oh remember those bad guys we 92 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: let out of jail and BOGRAM. Yeah, there were a 93 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: bunch of Isis guys in there. 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: Now. 95 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that we have confirmation on this, but 96 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: some Isis sky, whether he was on BOGRAM or not, 97 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: shows up with a suicide vest full of ball bearings 98 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: and incinerates thirteen of our troops men and women. By 99 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: the way, remember we do have testimony that we had 100 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the guy in our sites. We had a Marine Corps 101 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: sniper who had the guy on our sites, requested permission 102 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: to shoot before he blew himself up. Permission was denied. 103 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: After thirteen of our troops had their lives thrown away, 104 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: absolutely thrown away, the President of the United States of 105 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: America stumbled up to the podium, and this has helped 106 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: went the attack. 107 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: My group known as isis K took the lives of 108 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: American service members standing guard at the airport and wound 109 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: it several others. Seriously, we have so much to do, 110 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: so then our capacity to do it. We just have 111 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: to remain steadfast, steadfast, ladies and gentlemen. They gave me 112 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: a list here. The first person I was instructed to 113 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: call on was Kelly O'donnald NBC. 114 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: They gave me a list. The first person I was 115 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: instructed to call on. That was the press conference the 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Commander in chief gave. After we threw away the lives 117 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: of thirteen of our best then almost almost salt in 118 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: an open wound, their bodies came home. Try to imagine 119 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: what that would be like for a parent, the agony 120 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that they still go through right now as you're watching 121 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: four years later. 122 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Don't think that that's gone away. 123 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: You're watching me right now, there's still in agony, anguish, 124 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: very brutal day the bodies come home. You show up 125 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: a flag draped coffin the President of the United States 126 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: shows up and spends his time checking his watch. It 127 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't go well. 128 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 5: He talked a bit more about his own son than 129 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: he did my son, and that didn't sit well with me. 130 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 6: In reference to the checking of his watch. That didn't 131 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 6: happen just once. That happened on every single one that 132 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 6: came out of that airplane. It happened on every single 133 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 6: one of them. They would release the salute, and he 134 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 6: looked down at his watch on every last month, on 135 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 6: all thirteen he looked down at his watch. 136 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: I actually leaned into my son's mother's ear and I said, 137 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: I swear to God, if he checks his watch one 138 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: more time, and that was only probably four times in 139 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: I couldn't look at him anymore after that. Just considering 140 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: especially the time and why we were there, it was 141 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: I found to be the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen. 142 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Thirteen bodies, the old man who sent them to die 143 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: as they. 144 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Got off the plane. 145 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, how much longer we're gonna. 146 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: Wrap this up? 147 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Putting in time? Oh gosh, another one brutal, so outrageous. 148 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: And then and then then we incinerated ten innocent people. 149 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: The administration, once again chasing approval numbers poll numbers, sent 150 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: a reaper drone and we nooked ten afgame of them, 151 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: adorable children, completely innocent. And the Chairman of the Joint 152 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs at the time, Mark Milly, after we just incinerated 153 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: innocent children, got on TV and said this. 154 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: Were there are others killed. Yes, there are others killed. 155 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: Who they are? 156 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: We don't know. 157 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: We'll try to sort through all that, but we believe 158 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: that the procedures at this point, I don't want to 159 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: influence the outcome of an investigation, but at this point 160 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: we think that the procedures were correctly followed and it 161 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: was a righteous strike. 162 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: A righteous strike. Dead kids, all that tragedy, all that embarrassment, 163 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: all that sadness. And the old men who sent those 164 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: people to die, what kind of remorse did they feel? 165 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, before I play you this, remember 166 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: that for most of this country's history, commanders and politicians 167 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: who send young men to die, it eats at them 168 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: when those. 169 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: Young men die. 170 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how many World War Two 171 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: commanders of various kinds, admirals, generals later on committed suicide 172 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: because of the remorse they felt for men who died 173 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: under their command. That's the kind of old men we 174 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: used to have. 175 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: This is what we had. Then. 176 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 7: Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the 177 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 7: withdrawal occurred from Afghanistan that cost the lives of thirteen 178 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 7: of our service members. 179 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't have any regrets. 180 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 8: And so for all this talk of chaos, I just 181 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 8: didn't see it, not for my perch. At one point 182 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 8: during the evacuation, there was an aircraft taking off full 183 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 8: of people Americans and Afghanisa like every forty eight minutes, 184 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 8: and not one single mission was missed. So I'm sorry, 185 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 8: I just won't buy the whole argument of chaos. 186 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 9: President, you need a failure in Afghanistan, mistakes. 187 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: There was a report on Afghanistan and withdraw saying that 188 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: was failure and mistakes. 189 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 10: Do you want to meat there was mistakes during the withdrawal. 190 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: Before all the way and was coming back to the 191 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: Remember what I said about Afghanistan. I said, al kinda 192 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: would not be there. 193 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: I said it wouldn't be there. 194 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: I said, we get help from the Taliban. 195 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: What's happening now? What's going on? 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: Read your press? 197 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: I was right, it feels me, it was so much anger. 198 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Four years later, the callousness threw their lives away, didn't 199 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: even honor them afterwards. Now, look, let's not make it 200 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: all bad. We do have a new Secretary of Defense 201 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: singing a much different tune. 202 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 9: On behalf of this beautiful group, On behalf of these families, 203 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 9: On behalf of your loved ones, and fought for our nation. 204 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 9: America deserves answers as far as. 205 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: What happened in Afghanistan. 206 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 9: The military needs to answer for what's happened in Afghanistan. So, 207 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 9: upon the President's direction, immediately we initiated an investigation which 208 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 9: showed that there needed an even deeper dive. 209 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 10: So Sean and now or Pentagon. 210 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 9: Spokesman, who himself is an Afghanistan veteran, is leading this effort. 211 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: It's a top priority for us. 212 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 9: We're getting access to all documents necessary, why decisions were made, 213 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 9: why they weren't made, why certain force protection measures were ignored. Again, 214 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 9: there's never been accountability for this. It's something that Joe 215 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 9: Biden allowed to happen that never should have happened. Anybody 216 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 9: who any objective observer knows that's not how you leave 217 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 9: a country. 218 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: And certainly these families know better than anyone else. 219 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 9: These families deserve answers. 220 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: We're going to be honest about it. 221 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 9: We're going to get to the bottom of it. Sean 222 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 9: Parnell and Afghanistan Vett is leading it, and we're doing 223 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 9: another half of the American people. So I would anticipate 224 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 9: middle of twenty twenty six. That's how thorough of the 225 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 9: review we're doing. 226 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: It's good. 227 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: It makes them feel better, and credit where it's to 228 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: President Trump, Vice President jd. 229 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: Vance. This is how it's done. 230 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 231 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: This is a very special group of people. 232 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,119 Speaker 4: I've been with them from the beginning. Abbigate. 233 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 6: It's a four year anniversary, so. 234 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: We're signing a proclamation honoring them and honoring you and honoring. 235 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: You loved one. 236 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 9: These families deserve answers. We're gonna be honest about it. 237 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the bottom of it. 238 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 10: And I know from this President is he's made a 239 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 10: commitment that memory will not be forgotten. 240 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: We're so proud of you, We're so proud of your 241 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: loved ones forgiving their life for our country. 242 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: This is a rectification of a wrong. 243 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 9: We correct that wrong today that we're to keep on 244 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 9: fighting and to understand, as Pete said, what happens, so 245 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 9: it never happens to. 246 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: An other family again. But God love you all, God 247 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: bless you. We're so thrilled to have you here in 248 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the People's Oval office. 249 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: That's well done. 250 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Adams did her own investigation into all this. 251 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: She has a lot to say thanks. I love sleeping. 252 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: I love that feeling when you wake up in the 253 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: morning and you just know it's gonna be a good 254 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: day because I'm rested, and vice versa. When your eyes 255 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: feel like sandpaper in the morning and you tossed and 256 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: you turned and you just know I'm gonna be in 257 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: a bad mood all day where it's gonna suck. This 258 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: seems gonna be horrible. 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She wrote, Well, Abby Gate, know thy enemy? 279 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: It is out now, Sarah Adams, Sarah, just talking about 280 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: this entire thing drives me freaking up the wall. First 281 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: of all, who are you? What your background? And introduce 282 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: yourself to the folks. 283 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 10: Please, Yeah, just as a quick overview, I'm my former 284 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 10: CIA targeter. We actually carried an investigation identifying it's Harist 285 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 10: who did the attack in Benghazi back in twenty twelve, 286 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 10: and since then we've been doing a lot of different investigations. 287 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 10: We did abby Gate, we did the October seventh Hamas attack, 288 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 10: so it's just a continuation of our investigations. 289 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me about this investigation on Abby Gate whatever, 290 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: whatever you're allowed to tell me, of course, sources, how 291 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: you did it, what you found it, just lay it 292 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: all on us. 293 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, really simply, we weren't even planning to do 294 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 10: this investigation. And then April of last year, the Scent 295 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 10: com put out bears and they had not even found 296 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 10: the true name of the suicide bomber, and so I 297 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 10: was like, well, how hard can it be? And so 298 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 10: we actually did some initial work and we found his 299 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 10: name within three weeks, and that's when I was like, Okay, 300 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 10: we have to start investigating this ourselves to the government's 301 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 10: not doing it. So, as a lot of people know, 302 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 10: we've been running networks for the last ten years to 303 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 10: focus on the Bengazi side of thing. But after Kabble Felt, 304 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 10: all the terrorists shifted back to Afghanistans for all of 305 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 10: our networks now are in Afghanistan. So it's actually pretty 306 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 10: easy to collect because everybody's intermingling in the country, even 307 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 10: in terras camps. Now it's not like just an al 308 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 10: Qaeda camp. There's five different terrorist groups in that camp. 309 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 10: So they've all kind of come together. 310 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, who are the five terrorist groups? 311 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: And why could get answers? 312 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, when we talked about Abbi Gate, it's really interesting. 313 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 10: It was mostly plotted by Sharaji Dii na Khani, who's 314 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 10: the Taliban's Minister of Interior, but most Americans know him 315 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 10: as ahead of the Khani network. And then SnO Ulagafari, 316 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 10: who is the head of the Islamic State course on province. 317 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 10: But it is a lot of people know to commit 318 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 10: a terrorist attack, you have to get a fatwa issued, right, 319 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 10: So they went to the Taliban's little political commission to 320 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 10: do so. But one person who was in the meeting 321 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 10: to approve the attack was Abdullah bin Laden, the son 322 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 10: of Pamza bin Laden. Okay, so now we have ice KP, 323 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 10: the Taliban, the Taliban's political Commission, and al Qaeda. Right, 324 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 10: So that's already four groups involved. So it's very frustrating 325 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 10: that it's really been covered up. A lot of Americans 326 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 10: were kind of taught that this was like a loan 327 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 10: suicide attack, right and nothing like this. It came out 328 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 10: of nowhere, when actually the planning is very meticulous. 329 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I can you elaborate a little bit more on 330 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: isis K working with the Taliban, because she gets so 331 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: many conflicting reports on this that they're actually against each other, 332 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: that they're fighting ISIS is fighting Alkeeda, they're all fighting 333 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: the Taliban. No, they're working together. What is the true story? 334 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 10: The true story? It really goes back to twenty fifteen. 335 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 10: Twenty fifteen, they basically put a council together called the 336 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 10: Shura muja Hadeen, and that council was ISIS, Taliban and 337 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 10: a number of other local groups to take on Afghan 338 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 10: security forces in the Afghan National Army. So that's when 339 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 10: the groups first came together to work on a joint cause. 340 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 10: But this iteration started in twenty nineteen as Sharajidi in 341 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 10: Hakani was seeing the Djoha Deal put into place and 342 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 10: realizing he couldn't send his own suicide bombers and attackers 343 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 10: to do attacks. He needed a proxy. So he actually 344 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 10: took Gafari, who I told you is leading ice KP 345 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 10: from the Hakkani network, seated him into ISIS to use 346 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 10: him as a proxy. And so that's now been going 347 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 10: on about six years. So he's basically just a front 348 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 10: man for the Hakani network inside of ISIS. 349 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the red umbrella? 350 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, the red umbrella is simply it was one of 351 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 10: those visual markers at Abby Gate. So you knew how 352 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 10: to get to like the Marines, to get out safely, 353 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 10: right if you're an American, if you had paperwork to 354 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 10: get in the gate. So it was one of those 355 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 10: symbols of hope. You knew when you got to it 356 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 10: there'd be a US Marine or some sort of military 357 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 10: person who would like take care of you and help 358 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 10: you out. And so a lot of people in the 359 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 10: crowd obviously looked at this as a beacon of hope, 360 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 10: and I can maybe get out of Afghanistan, right if 361 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 10: I can get to these Marines. 362 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: Okay, what do we know about the bomber? 363 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 10: So the bomber is really interesting. He, you know, was 364 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 10: an ISIS suicide bomber that first actually deployed to India 365 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 10: and he was supposed to do an attack in New Delhi. 366 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 10: He got caught by the Indians, deported, ended up in Bogram, 367 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 10: So he was in prison actually you know when we 368 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 10: were in country. But then he was released the night 369 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 10: of August fifteenth by the Taliban because IKP chose him 370 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 10: and two others kind of as a suicide bomber cell 371 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 10: to be the attackers, and he ultimately was the one 372 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 10: asked to do the operation. So he'd been long in 373 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 10: Isis for probably about six seven eight years by that point, 374 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 10: so well trained. 375 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So could you explain why the Indians would deport 376 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: somebody who was in their country getting ready to incinerate 377 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of women and kids instead of throwing him 378 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: in some dank Indian dungeon somewhere. 379 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, that would have been better. Unfortunately he was Afghan, 380 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 10: but we believe the CIA tick the Indians and the 381 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 10: CIA requests that he brought to bomber and then of 382 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 10: course they had no end game for him as you 383 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 10: can see, and he ended up released. Like a lot 384 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 10: of the terrorsts we caught over the years, unfortunately, they 385 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 10: really only spend time in prison five to seven years 386 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 10: for the most part. 387 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: Okay, So the goal of the Abby Gade attack? Was 388 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: it just chaos embarrassment? Was it just to kill people? 389 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: What was the goal? 390 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 10: What do we think the goal was actually to harm 391 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 10: our troops if you actually look at some of the 392 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 10: people involved. You know, I talked about the masterminds where 393 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 10: there's a very interesting Terris involved who helped move the 394 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 10: bomber to Cobble and he's the son of Mullah Dadu 395 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 10: the Lang that was basically one of the most senior 396 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 10: operations we ever carried out against the Taliban commander when 397 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 10: we killed his father, right, So there's also some personal 398 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 10: retribution inside of this attack that really nobody's been honest about, 399 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 10: you know, with those who've been impacted. 400 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Okay, uh, what could we have done to prevent this attack? 401 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: Could we have prevented it? I mean, obviously not giving 402 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: up Bogram would have been the best way to prevent it, 403 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: But is there a way we could have secured a 404 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: civilian airport. 405 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: To have prevented this? 406 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 10: The way? They didn't know because they announced the evacuation 407 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 10: on August thirteenth. The planning for the attacks started on 408 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 10: August fourteenth. We had such a hasty, thrown together evacuation plan. 409 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 10: There were so many holes in it that it was 410 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 10: so easy to take advantage of. And then our government 411 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 10: made our troops be on the other side of the Taliban. 412 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 10: It was the Taliban who did the external security at 413 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 10: the airport. So because of how we set that up, 414 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 10: We had no plan, and then we relied on the Taliban. Unfortunately, 415 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 10: you know, our troops in all those innocent people were 416 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 10: sitting ducks right now. If they would have planned a 417 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 10: real evacuation months before, like they should have, it would 418 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 10: have been a different situation, but not in the way 419 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 10: the hasty withdrawal happened. 420 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Did we try to cover up all this stuff afterwards? 421 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Our government? 422 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 10: I mean yeah, I one hundred percent think they did. 423 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 10: First off, our government definitely covered up. The Khanis were involved, 424 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 10: right I just told you strategy and that Khani was 425 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 10: one of the masterminds. Obviously most people know they covered 426 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 10: up a drone strike on an innocent you know, AID worker. 427 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 10: They were only told to tell the truth about it 428 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 10: when it got leaked to the press. And then, as 429 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 10: I told you, one of Billaden's sons you know, was 430 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 10: involved in the plotting behind this. That alone shows that 431 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 10: they've covered up. And you know, even the commander who 432 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 10: told the suicide bomber, hey, you're in a good enough 433 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 10: spot to kill enough troops. That's the son in law 434 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 10: of doctor Iaman al Zaur Hiri, who was the current 435 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 10: head of all that at the time. So yes, this 436 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 10: has been completely covered up, and they just want you 437 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 10: to believe this is an isis lone wolf right like 438 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 10: they did after the New Orleans attack in January, and 439 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 10: they just want you to be happy with that explanation 440 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 10: and this. Multiple groups work together on this, and they're 441 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 10: planning other things, and you need to be honest with 442 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 10: the public so they can see these tactics and be 443 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 10: prepared for what's. 444 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: Coming planning other things. 445 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, as you know, when we abandoned Afghanistan, 446 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 10: it became the base again through international terrorism where we 447 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 10: stopped actually doing strikes there. The last over the Horizon 448 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 10: strike was July twenty twenty two, So for three years, 449 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 10: the terrorists have been able to plot plan train unabated. 450 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 10: So they've been now deploying people to Europe, to the 451 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 10: United States, and they are planning them a nine to 452 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 10: eleven style attack in the United States. And we're easily 453 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 10: able to get in over our borders, but also our 454 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 10: visa system, as most people know, it's very weak and 455 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 10: a lot of people get approved who shouldn't be approved 456 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 10: and who hate this country, and so we have a 457 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 10: lot of holes that we need to fill too. 458 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: What about all those refugees we brought in when the 459 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Biden administration just started chucking Afghanis in the back of 460 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: sea one thirties. 461 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, so that's a whole other issue. A huge percentage 462 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 10: of them we're never vetted. They never worked for the 463 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 10: US government. You know. In one situation, there was a 464 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 10: girl I rescued and she got to Romstein and she 465 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 10: called her brother from Romstein. He's like, how did you 466 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 10: get a phone. She's like, oh, I'm using one of 467 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 10: the US Army members. He's using me as his interpreter. 468 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 10: He said, isn't the place full of interpreters And she 469 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 10: said no, we couldn't find any. She said, I'm talking 470 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 10: to these people. They never worked for the US government. 471 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 10: They won't look at me either, too extreme. They won't 472 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 10: speak to a woman, they speak no English. In another case, 473 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 10: one of my friends was an Era Marshall and he 474 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 10: flew a flight from Romstein to DC. In the middle 475 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 10: of the flight, they got called and said, oops, we 476 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 10: led a terrorists on the plane, but don't worry. You 477 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 10: can still land in DC with him. So they know 478 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 10: they brought terraces and it's a huge problem and we 479 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 10: do need to go back and revet everybody brought out 480 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 10: in that hasty withdrawal because we did bring in the enemy. 481 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah, I appreciate it. 482 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: Jerry Dunleavy's join us next. I love patronizing companies that 483 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: share and promote my values, don't you. I like that 484 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: we have woken up to that on the right, that 485 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: we realize we have to put our money where our 486 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: morules are. That's why I love Puretalk. Verizon is a 487 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: terrible company at and T T Mobile. 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It is the book Cobble, 507 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: the untold story of Biden's fiasco and the American warriors 508 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: who fought to the end. It's one to pick up. 509 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I am warning you it's going to be bad for 510 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: your blood pressure. 511 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: It was certainly bad for mine. 512 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: This should be they should it should be reading in schools. 513 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: It should be joining me now. 514 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Dunlevy, Jerry, Okay, why right book? I know you're 515 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: a writer anyway. I know you're a journalist at heart. 516 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Unlike me, I'm just a big mouth. Why write a book? 517 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: It's a great question, you know. 518 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 7: I I did not serve, but my brother did multiple 519 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 7: tours in Afghanistan, and I'm good friends with a lot 520 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 7: of people that did serve. During the post nine to 521 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 7: eleven wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, including my co author 522 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 7: James Hassen, who did a tour in Afghanistan as well, 523 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 7: and of course my brother did multiple tours there. I 524 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: did feel a up so I did feel a personal 525 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 7: connection to the war, and for a very long time 526 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 7: it was clear that things were not going in a 527 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 7: good direction there. But in the summer of twenty twenty one, 528 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: it became abundantly clear to me that this twenty year 529 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 7: war was going to end in disaster. And so I 530 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 7: was technically a DOJ reporter at the time, but I 531 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 7: told my editors, this is what I'm going to be 532 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 7: working on for the foreseeable future. And so unfortunately, I 533 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 7: detailed the collapse and fall of Afghanistan, the Taliban takeover 534 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 7: and the debacle and the deadly abbigade attack, and you know, 535 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 7: I did everything that I could to cover the story, 536 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 7: and it became abundantly clear to me that there was 537 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 7: not going to be accountability. Especially there was not going 538 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 7: to be any accountability for the generals and military commanders 539 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 7: and for the intelligence community, both of whom failed because look, 540 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 7: President Joe Biden obviously screwed this up in every way 541 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 7: that he possibly could, right, and Jake Sullivan and the 542 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 7: NSC screwed up in every way they possibly could. The 543 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 7: State Department and Anthony Blincoln screwed this up as much 544 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 7: as they could. But we are four years out and 545 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: the military, so the military commanders like Chairman of the 546 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 7: Joint Chiefs Millie and the Commander of Sentcom at the time, 547 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 7: General McKenzie, and the intelligence community, there has been no 548 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: accountability whatsoever. In fact, the Biden administration of course has 549 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 7: covered you know, was happy to cover for the military 550 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 7: and the IC on this, but some Republicans joined in 551 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 7: that as well. It was a simpler narrative to just 552 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 7: kind of pinted on Biden and the silly folks at 553 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 7: the State Department and to let the military and the 554 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 7: IC skate on this. And the military and the ICY 555 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 7: played their parts in why everything went wrong in twenty 556 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 7: twenty one as well. And so I've been sort of 557 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 7: on a personal crusade since then to get that accountability, 558 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 7: to get those answers, because you know, not to go 559 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: on my rant much longer here, but it's important to 560 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 7: get answers in accountability, not just for the thirteen who 561 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 7: died at abbigade in their families, and not just for 562 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 7: the twenty four hundred plus US troops who died in 563 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 7: Afghanistan during those twenty years. It's also important because we're 564 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 7: going to be in another major war and the next 565 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 7: adversary that we fight, whether it's Iran or Russia or 566 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 7: especially China. You know, those folks are not the Taliban. 567 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 7: You know, the Taliban in many ways was tough and tenacious. 568 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 7: But the next war that we're going to be and 569 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 7: it's going to be a lot tougher than the Taliban. 570 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 7: And if we don't learn these lessons, if the Pentagon 571 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 7: and the military in the IC don't admit that they 572 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 7: got this wrong, then we're going to be in a 573 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 7: world of hurt. And unfortunately, you know, when you're in 574 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 7: a war against a serious adversary like the Chinese, it's 575 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 7: going to be more than thirteen people and potentially even 576 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 7: more than twenty four hundred people whose lives are going 577 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 7: to be at risk. So it's very important that we 578 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 7: get answers and hold people accountable. 579 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Here, Jerry, can you help me understand why we don't 580 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: get why no one seemed to be interested in holding 581 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: military accountable Intelligence accountable. I mean, I know you were 582 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: famously on the House Foreign Affairs Committee to the investigation 583 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: and then you bailed, you walked on it, and you 584 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: can talk about that, But why is there no interest 585 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: in it? I mean, you look back at historic wars 586 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: like World War Two, it's almost like we were too 587 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: harsh on some of these military commanders. We'd court martial 588 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: them for mistakes and stuff like that. Now nobody did 589 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: anything wrong. Why what so? 590 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 7: You know, for my best analysis and from my personal 591 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 7: experience being on Capitol Hill and being on this investigation, look, 592 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 7: the obviously the Biden administration in the left, they were 593 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 7: perfectly happy to run cover for the military and the IC. Now, 594 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: the Biden administration and people on the left weren't thrilled 595 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 7: that Biden was being raked over the coals for this 596 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 7: and the State Department was being raked over the coals 597 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 7: for this. But look, if if they were able to 598 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 7: shield you know, half of the problem, then that's what 599 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 7: they were happy to do. It's more complicated on the right, 600 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 7: and it's it's it's frankly more frustrating to me that 601 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 7: some folks on the right were willing to participate in 602 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 7: letting the military and the military commanders in generals especially 603 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 7: escape any accountability. 604 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: For this. 605 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 7: Part of it is I think that they wanted there 606 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 7: to be a simpler narrative. And the more are people 607 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 7: that you start to bring in to being responsible beyond 608 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 7: Biden and maybe his little inner circle of Blincoln and Sullivan, 609 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 7: the more complicated the political narrative gets. Part of it 610 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 7: also is that I think that some people on the 611 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 7: right and some Republicans on Capitol Hill have sort of 612 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 7: perverted this idea of supporting the troops and supporting the 613 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 7: boots and supporting people in uniform, and they've taken that 614 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 7: which is extremely important and noble and extended that all 615 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 7: the way out to sort of the generals can do 616 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 7: no wrong. And what I try to get across to 617 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 7: people is what you know, there are plenty of generals 618 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 7: that have served honorably and bravely and all of that, 619 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 7: But many generals have gotten to where they are because 620 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 7: they have been politicians. Unfortunately, to climb the ladder a 621 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 7: lot of times to become a general, to get yourself 622 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 7: into these positions, you have to be a politician. And 623 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 7: we have to hold generals accountable the same way that 624 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 7: we would hold anyone else accountable. In fact, it's probably 625 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 7: more important because when other department heads or agencies or 626 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 7: whatever make mistakes, it's bad. You know, we lose money, 627 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 7: there's fraud, there's abuse. When generals make mistakes, people's lives 628 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 7: are at risk. Troops of lives are at risk, the 629 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 7: success of missions and battles and wars are at risk. 630 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 7: And unfortunately the investigation that I was part of, which 631 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 7: was run at the time on the House Foreign Affairs 632 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 7: Committee by the then chairman McCall, they made a very 633 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 7: explicit decision that they were going to pin this on Biden, 634 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 7: and they were going to pin this on the State Department, 635 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 7: and they were going to let the generals off hook. 636 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 7: And so they very explicitly decided to let Millie skate 637 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 7: and to let mackenzie skate. It's frustrating and it's dangerous, 638 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 7: honestly for the future, you know, because this is a 639 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 7: this is a twenty year war that ended in defeat, 640 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 7: and there's you know, a lot of reasons, there's twenty 641 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 7: years of mistakes, but there were some real mistakes in 642 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one that these that these generals made, and 643 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 7: that these commanders made, and so far, they haven't been 644 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 7: held accountable. A bright spot in all of this, of course, 645 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 7: is that Secretary Pete Hegseth has launched his own investigation 646 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 7: inside the Pentagon where he has very directly said that 647 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 7: he wants to hold people responsible, that he wants to 648 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 7: get answers, that he wants accountability. That investigation that heg 649 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 7: Seth launched just just started. But you know, there is 650 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 7: a real chance there to hold some folks accountable, and 651 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 7: so I'm cautiously optimistic about. 652 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: That, Jerry. We spent all those years in Afghanistan, supposedly 653 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: training the Afghan security forces, the Afghan Army, training and 654 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: equipping them so they could fight on their own and 655 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: we could say goodbye. We said goodbye. I know, we 656 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: did it poorly in every sense of the word. We 657 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: said goodbye, and they collapsed in about five minutes. 658 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 7: Why, it's a great question, and in fact, it's one 659 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 7: of the big things that former Chairman of the Joint 660 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 7: Chiefs of Staff Milli really needs to be held accountable for. 661 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 7: So he was as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 662 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 7: you are the top military advisor to the President of 663 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 7: the United States, So at that time that was President 664 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 7: Joe Biden. Milly was out there in the summer of 665 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one claiming that the Afghan the Afghan security 666 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 7: forces were three hundred and twenty five thousand to three 667 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty thousand strong. Now everyone knows that that 668 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 7: wasn't true. Everyone knew at the time that that wasn't true. Now, 669 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 7: the big fictional number that everyone had kind of settled 670 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 7: on in twenty twenty one was three hundred thousand. So 671 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 7: you had Biden and blink In and Sullivan and everyone 672 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 7: running around claiming that the Afghan military was three hundred 673 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 7: thousand strong. Millie was out there inflating an already fictional 674 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 7: number up to three hundred and twenty five thousand or 675 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 7: three hundred and fifty thousand. In reality, the Afghan military 676 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 7: was vastly smaller than that. What they were able to 677 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 7: what was actually being fielded on a day to day basis, 678 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 7: was I would say by twenty twenty one, maybe half that, okay. 679 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 7: And at the same time, folks like folks within the 680 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 7: Biden administration, including I believe Milli, were likely underestimating what 681 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 7: the Taliban was able to field. And so when you 682 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 7: do a net assessment, a serious net assessment. I think 683 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 7: of what the Afghan military was capable of in twenty 684 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 7: twenty one and what the Taliban was capable of in 685 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, I think that the reality was that 686 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 7: the Taliban was much stronger than people were giving them 687 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 7: credit for, and the Afghan military was much weaker than 688 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 7: people were giving them credit for. You combine that with 689 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 7: the fact that, look, the US military had years to 690 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 7: figure out how to try to support the Afghan how 691 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 7: to train the Afghan military to get them ready, and 692 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 7: then how to support them from Afar once we were gone, 693 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 7: because we had successive presidents Obama, Trump, and Biden who 694 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 7: were all signaling that they wanted to leave Afghanistan. And 695 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 7: yet the US military never figured out how to properly 696 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 7: get this Afghan military to be cohesive. They never figured 697 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 7: out how to get them to function without US support. 698 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 7: And in fact, in many ways, the US military built 699 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 7: the Afghan military around US support. And so the US 700 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty one quickly pulled not just our advisors 701 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 7: and our logistics and our ISR and our support and 702 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 7: our maintenance support, and our support for their for their 703 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 7: air force and for their ground forces, pulled all of 704 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 7: this in rapid fashion, and it was clear that there 705 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 7: was no that there had been no real planning about 706 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 7: how to continue the Afghans, to continue to support the 707 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 7: Afghans from Afar, and so all this all collapsed very rapidly. Obviously, 708 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 7: the Afghan forces shared their piece of the blame here, 709 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 7: but you know, as as as an American and as 710 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 7: the US had been there for twenty years, I think 711 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 7: that we need to look long and hard about why 712 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 7: the US military failed in its mission to feel the 713 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 7: capable force that was able to sustain this. Now, one 714 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 7: thing that I always kind of try to tell people 715 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 7: is that another thing that Millie has led the way 716 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 7: on is claiming that the Afghan military collapse and the 717 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 7: Taliban took over in just eleven days. Now, look, the 718 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 7: Taliban took over very quickly in twenty twenty one, but 719 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 7: you could track district by district the Taliban taking over 720 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 7: Afghanistan very very very soon after Biden's withdrawal order in 721 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 7: April and the US beginning and extremely rapid retrograde in 722 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 7: May of twenty twenty one, and so the Taliban started 723 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 7: a serious onslaught in May, increased it in June increased 724 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 7: in July and then increased it again in August, with 725 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 7: great success by August fifteenth. But I don't want people 726 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 7: like Milli to get away with his inflation of the 727 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 7: size of the Afghan military, and I don't want him 728 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 7: to get away with this idea that well, this all 729 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 7: just happened in eleven days in August of twenty twenty one, 730 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 7: so what can you do. We all saw it happening 731 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 7: starting in May, June, and July, and there were things 732 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 7: that the US could have done to stem the bleeding, 733 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 7: to stave off the Taliban advance, to get serious about 734 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 7: holding on to Bogram. As you saw the Taliban taking over. 735 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 7: There were a lot of things that the US could 736 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 7: have done that we did not do. So I don't 737 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 7: want I don't want people like MILLI to get away 738 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 7: with just saying, well, it happened in like a week 739 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 7: and some change, so what can you do. There were 740 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 7: months where this was happening, where the ground was shifting 741 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 7: from underneath our feet, and we did not respond. 742 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: We got away with enough. Jerry, thank you, brother off 743 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: as always appreciate you. Final thoughts. Next, I love feeling 744 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: good all the time. 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