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Speaker 1: My next guest is a more Halls graduate and he

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Speaker 1: don't have options to how do I make it better?

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Speaker 1: But the one way you can make it better unless,

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Speaker 1: like you said, vote, exercise your right to vote. Participate,

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Speaker 1: don't be at this, don't be a silent participant. But

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Speaker 1: also don't let people take away you're hoping, and don't

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Speaker 1: let people take away your faith. I'm very, very hopeful,

433
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Speaker 1: and I maintain faith because I have to fight so

434
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Speaker 1: that my children can be free. So you know, I

435
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Speaker 1: don't I don't play it, pamp. I don't paint a

436
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Speaker 1: dystopian view. I paint of view that's very real and honest,

437
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Speaker 1: saying that we've made a lot of progress in this country,

438
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Speaker 1: but we still have you other ways to go. And

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Speaker 1: so now it's our duty. It's my duty to continue

440
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: the legacy set forth by people like yourself, my parents, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: and carry that but time forward, so that my children

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Speaker 1: live in a better country. And I still believe in

443
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. You know, uh, Paccari.

444
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: When I when I was going through the book, and

445
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: like I said, so many layers is a great book.

446
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the book. My Advantaging Country, a

447
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: memoir written by Baccari, sellers out of HarperCollins Publishing House. Um,

448
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: your friend Pop, he was older than you. Um, he

449
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: had aspirations until the death of his dad. Uh, and

450
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: he chose sports and Uh. There's so many Pops in

451
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Speaker 1: our neighborhoods I can remember. I have a version of

452
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Speaker 1: Pop that grew up with me and didn't He made

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Speaker 1: it out, but he didn't accomplish what he should have

454
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Speaker 1: been able to accomplish because of mistakes, and we should

455
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Speaker 1: all be able to overcome our mistakes. Talk to us

456
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Speaker 1: about Pop from your neighborhood in Denmark, South Carolina. So

457
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if Pop will hear this

458
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: episode of me on money making conversationshad Where's he based there? Now?

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Speaker 1: Where's he was he living there? Right now? He didn't

460
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: in Mark College campus radio station. Good well, good well.

461
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he listens to it. And the

462
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: reason being is because I want Pop to know that

463
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Speaker 1: he was a success. You know, we always have this tension.

464
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Speaker 1: We always have this these these very difficult conversations, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Pop is very emblematic of what it means

466
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Speaker 1: to be a black man in this country and trying

467
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Speaker 1: to overcome um. Even though you have those obstacles that

468
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: are placed in front of you and my family, we

469
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Speaker 1: opened our doors to Pop. Pop is my brother. He

470
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Speaker 1: has a piece of my heart always will. And so

471
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Speaker 1: you know, I feel challenged sometimes and difficulty trying to

472
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Speaker 1: figure out, UM, you know, how we can improve the

473
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Speaker 1: relationship and which which direction we should go in. UM.

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Speaker 1: But even more, but even more importantly UM, as he

475
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Speaker 1: grows into being a father, as he continues to work hard,

476
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Speaker 1: and you know, he graduated from college and he's doing

477
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Speaker 1: everything he should do. You know, he's a success. And

478
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: while all he's going to do is make it make

479
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Speaker 1: it easier for the next generation UM to to be better.

480
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Speaker 1: And so you know, we have to lift up our

481
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Speaker 1: brothers especially, and during this climate and during this time, well,

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's really important that you say that. And

483
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Speaker 1: because it was it was a very UM I always say,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, it's about opportunities. Are very UM poignant moment

485
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Speaker 1: in your book when he says, why did y'all come

486
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Speaker 1: get me? You know, and because he felt that if

487
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: you guys would have gotten him, pulled him into y'all,

488
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: because he basically lived your life. He was with you guys,

489
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Speaker 1: but he lived on the other side of the track,

490
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Speaker 1: and so and just just explained that that whole different

491
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Speaker 1: world dynamic and how how it affected him and how

492
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Speaker 1: it affected you and your sister and brother. So I

493
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: mean it was humbling for us because, um, you know,

494
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: we we were always aware of um, the blessings we

495
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: had and even more aware and in tune to those

496
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Speaker 1: who didn't. And so we were raised to make sure

497
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: that anything we had, we we gave as much as possible.

498
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Speaker 1: And my parents poured so much into Pop, just like

499
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: they poured into us. And so um, the challenges, you know,

500
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: what do you do with that? And it's me and

501
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: challenge continue as me and Pop continue to grow older.

502
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: We challenge each other right now to be better husbands

503
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Speaker 1: and better fathers. And that's that's that is for us

504
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: the definition of success. And um, I hope people read

505
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: about Pop and realize how many pots they have in

506
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Speaker 1: their life and just worry about not giving them a

507
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: hand out, but giving them a hand up. Wow, that's great.

508
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: I hope this book becomes a documentary because um, it's

509
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: it's so many stories additional stories that I that motivated

510
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Speaker 1: me out of this book. Bacari, I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on the show to talk about your book.

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Speaker 1: My Vaison country Men. As you can see man on

513
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Speaker 1: WORL Day, I was reading your book and enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: My man, I just didn't have the peanuts. That's all.

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Speaker 1: I'll get some ball peanuts. Thank you so much for

516
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Speaker 1: allowing me, somebody of your statue to utilize this platform

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Speaker 1: and means a lot of humble So I'm grateful. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Definitely well put it in my If

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560
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Speaker 1: multimillion dollar security firm, service and executive and global celebrity

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Speaker 1: and global celebrities. He's a Bachelor of Science and Business

562
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: and built a well respected legacy and law enforcement before

563
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Speaker 1: moving into the private sector. Please work on the money

564
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Speaker 1: making conversation. Terry Brown, Hey, thank you, thank you. I

565
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Speaker 1: appreciate thank you for having me. And I said all that,

566
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Speaker 1: then is he still talking about me? Is he still

567
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Speaker 1: saying all those great things about my brain? How you

568
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: doing that? There? Too much? When you get him a lot?

569
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Speaker 1: Because you know, transition is what we all fear in life.

570
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Speaker 1: You know, when you're getting the regular check and you

571
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Speaker 1: get comfortable with their regular check and then all of

572
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Speaker 1: the saying you're about you got the idea, and a

573
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Speaker 1: lot of people don't support you on that idea. When

574
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Speaker 1: you start talking about doing other things. Tell tell us

575
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: about the trans from the you know, from uh forty

576
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Speaker 1: hour week job, which of over time and making a

577
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Speaker 1: good living to say, you know something, I'm a bead

578
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Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, you know it's interesting. Um. Yeah. I

579
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: started my this whole journey as a UM police officer

580
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: in California, northern California, place called East Paul, Alto, and

581
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Speaker 1: it was an interesting job. East Paul, too was the

582
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Speaker 1: murder capital in ninety two. Ninety January ninety three, I

583
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Speaker 1: went to robbery homside UM that presented is UM on

584
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Speaker 1: set of challenges, of course, but you know, it was

585
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Speaker 1: a lot of work, a lot of overtime, but it

586
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Speaker 1: was a lot of working for someone else. And so

587
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Speaker 1: I had a son who was, you know, getting up

588
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Speaker 1: to the those formulative years, and you know, my daughter,

589
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't really there allowed for her, and so I said,

590
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Speaker 1: you want my sun my mona. Wanted to have more

591
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Speaker 1: control of my time. So my journey initially into the

592
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: entrepreneur worship was simply because I wanted to spend more

593
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Speaker 1: time with my son. The money I wasn't really concerned

594
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Speaker 1: with initially. That comes later, um, But the transition for

595
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Speaker 1: me was trying to figure out where I fit in

596
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Speaker 1: in the private sector and what that looked like. I

597
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Speaker 1: spent the first thirteen years of my life in law enforcement,

598
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Speaker 1: and that was you know, that was pretty easy. I

599
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Speaker 1: understood what my path was there. Um, the private shift

600
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Speaker 1: is a little different. Now. Let mens you this. This

601
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Speaker 1: is really interesting because when I when I when I

602
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Speaker 1: gave your credit, it was talking about servicing executives, which

603
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's corporate executives and global celebrities. Those are

604
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Speaker 1: two unique areas and they have to be treated differently. One,

605
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Speaker 1: when you walk out there, the celebrities, they know who

606
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Speaker 1: they are, so that means that the reaction in public

607
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Speaker 1: is going to be different. But then executives, you know,

608
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Speaker 1: a certain group of people may know who they are,

609
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Speaker 1: which which makes for their security to be unique. Explained

610
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Speaker 1: the difference in how your company happles both. You know,

611
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: when you're talking about corporate executives, UH, a lot of

612
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: times people really they don't have face regulations issue. Um

613
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Speaker 1: people know about them through print, um and you know

614
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Speaker 1: now and then you know on TV and in the news.

615
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Speaker 1: But um, face recognition really doesn't come in and play

616
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Speaker 1: a lot. Obviously, celebrities that you know they're waiting for

617
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Speaker 1: you no matter where you go. UM, they could be

618
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Speaker 1: You'll you'll see paparazzi at the hotel, You'll get to

619
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Speaker 1: your your venue, your event, and they're they're meeting you there.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it's it's a constant navigating between the

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Speaker 1: paparasis that issue UM corporate executives, UM, you know there Uh,

622
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Speaker 1: there are are protection for them centered around UM life

623
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Speaker 1: challenges so they can mention exist, they can make a

624
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Speaker 1: decision and it affect a lot of people's lives, their livelihoods.

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Speaker 1: So those are real life issues. Celebrities, Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: it's not the same UM, but you know, you kind

627
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Speaker 1: of you know, with corporate execs, you you have that

628
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Speaker 1: that space where you have the opportunity to play and

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Speaker 1: pre plan what they're doing, their movements and things that

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Speaker 1: issue celebrities all the time you're kind of flying off

631
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Speaker 1: the cup. You're you know, you have to be flexible

632
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Speaker 1: in your in your movement with celebrities. Well that's really

633
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Speaker 1: it's because you know, I managed a major celebrity talent

634
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Speaker 1: like Steve Harvey and currently Stephen A. Smith and both

635
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: are different like Stephen Stephen A Smith he uh and

636
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Speaker 1: and invites people to sign autographs and take pictures with

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Speaker 1: Steve is a little bit more reluctance and do that.

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Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you have to deal

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Speaker 1: with that too, because different celebrities treat their fans or

640
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Speaker 1: how people approach them different And how do you how

641
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: do you how do you deal Let you sit down

642
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and talk to the talent, do you sit down and

643
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: talk to the celebrities, or how that situation you should

644
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: be handled by? How do you make recommendations? You know,

645
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: initially you try to have that conversation with them so

646
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: they know clearly understand what you're trying to do to

647
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: keep them safe. Um. Celebrities, you always all your clients.

648
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: You have to kind of understand they are and what

649
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: they want, what they find uncomfortable, and you know what

650
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: they find You know this this actually comfortable? Um Uh.

651
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: You know I have Kevin Hart and Kevin is very

652
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: very um uh open to his fan base. Um. He

653
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: wants to be approachable and I think that's part of

654
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: his charm and part of his brand. UM. But at

655
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: the same time, you have to figure out and a

656
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: split second, who um has you know, all terier motives?

657
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: Who who presents a problem for us to move in

658
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and out of different environments. You know, who has UM

659
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: ILL will towards him UM for whatever reason. You have

660
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: to kind of figure that out with body language movement.

661
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: They're movement into things of that nature, and it's kind

662
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: of the average change in cop of invironment. But some

663
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: some clients don't want to sign an autographs, some clients

664
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: don't want the UM interaction general public, and you have

665
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: to navigate through that and figure out how to you know,

666
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: do it so that they don't look like the bad guy. Absolutely,

667
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: and that that's really what it comes across. Especially in

668
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: the age of social media, people can quickly troll you

669
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: with negative posts and say you did this, and you

670
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: could just be heading into an offer space or headed

671
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the side of an autograph or the autograph session has

672
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: ended and you try to get out of the building

673
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: to catch a flight, or sometimes they said this is

674
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: what this is the cut off type and you have

675
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: to go and so you have to be the bad

676
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: guys are are all set of situation episode the escape route,

677
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: and it really is when you when you got the

678
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: talent like a Kevin Hall, you got to you got

679
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: these high profile talents where they can move people thousands

680
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: of people when they walk out into public into general street.

681
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: They could just move bodies like that. And and when

682
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: he said, it's really amazing how they can just work.

683
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: I remember Steve and I we shut down them all

684
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: one time. We had to go out the back door

685
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: to get out of them all because of the fact

686
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: that he could not go back out into the general

687
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: populace population in the middle. I have a mall story

688
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: with Kevin who went to the mall in Houston's Major

689
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: Mall and Houston UM Galeria, UH Galeria, and we went

690
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: to St. Laurent second floor. We walked in UM and

691
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I kid you not, within five minutes I looked outside

692
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: the store and there were thousands of people. When outside

693
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: the store, I walked out the store entrance to kind of,

694
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, see what was going on with it. It

695
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: looked like, you know, and when I say thousands, I

696
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: mean upstairs and downstairs. Police showed up. They told us

697
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: we had to leave. You know, I needn't really appreciate

698
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: that part of it. But then when he they explained

699
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, the problems with people running

700
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: and potential be getting hurt or injured. I okay, I

701
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: understand that, um, and so we we had to leave.

702
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: But you're talking within five minutes. They didn't shut the

703
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: mall down, but the mall was shut down because everyone

704
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: was outside the store trying trying to get the games

705
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: of Kevin Is. So those things happen and you have

706
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: to figure that stuff out and quickly, too quickly too,

707
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: and that then that comes across as as can be.

708
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Like you know, uh, fans can take that as a negative.

709
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Old man. He could top to stop and take one

710
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: photo once, stop and take one photo. The other person's

711
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: gonna want their photo. And so a lot of times

712
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: you see celebrities say, okay, take the photo as I'm walking,

713
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: Take the photo as I'm walking, because they if they stop,

714
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: it's it's you cannot move forward anymore. It's really an

715
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: interesting world because, like I said, you know, you represent

716
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: one of the global faiths. So he go to England,

717
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: somebody know he go to South Africa. Somebody knows he

718
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: goes to Canada, somebody knows he go to Mexico, somebody

719
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: knows he goes to Russia. Somebody's gonna know Kevin Hard

720
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: when you got to face that visible, it does create problems.

721
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: But then again, when you have corporate execs, they want

722
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: that same type of security, they want that same type

723
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: of uh handling because they feel they're equally important. Because

724
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: a lot of times, I'm gonna ask you the question,

725
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of times celebrities have to be treated that way,

726
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: especially when they travel out of the country. Have you

727
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: had to deal with that taking up net celebrities. Let

728
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: me talking about corporate executives out of country, especially when

729
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: they travel in Mexico. UM. Yeah, I've never been in Mexico.

730
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: I take that back. Went to Mexico once time with

731
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: the client. Uh, but it wasn't for business. But yeah,

732
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: that's a different dynamic as well, because you've got to

733
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: pay attention to the climate of the country that your

734
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: your attended as civil arrest UM. In Mexico obviously, you

735
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: know you have the kidnaping situation. That's a business onto

736
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: itself down there. UM. You know, I think the biggest

737
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: thing when you travel out the country is understanding the

738
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: laws UM in those countries, because those laws are very

739
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: different um from the laws that were used to being

740
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: a police officer. UM. Yeah, it's it's very different. Time

741
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: we went to UM and this is not South America.

742
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: We went to Dubai and we had our radios, you know,

743
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: for communication, and they took them. And because I saw

744
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: they saw that as a uh equipment UM not suitable

745
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: for their um their country, largely because it affects their

746
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: communication system and a lot of people, you know, a

747
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: lot of people in those countries, like you're infiltrating their

748
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: their systems, right, So they took our radios. They took

749
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: our radio. So you have to really I mean traveling abroad,

750
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: that's a different animal onto itself. You have to clearly

751
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: understand what those laws are. You have to clearly understand

752
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: what the customs are, and you have to figure out

753
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: a way either you're gonna get someone on the ground

754
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: over there to move with you, or you have to

755
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: move move gingerly, you know, through the land of those countries.

756
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Let meass your days. I'm talking to my man, Terry Brown.

757
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: He's the CEO of Armor Bear Protective Services, as a

758
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: multimillion dollars security firm, their services executives and global celebrities.

759
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: One of his primary talents, we have to say, as

760
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: a global celebrity is Kevin Hart. What what what are

761
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: the code of ethics that you have to follow when

762
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: you when you establish protective services agency. You know, every company,

763
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: every person had their own set of code of ethics force.

764
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Me what I try to establish with my company is

765
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: UM honor, uh, integrity, dependability, reliability, loyalty, UM those things.

766
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: But also in addition to that, you know, you have

767
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: to have a heart forgiving, you know, because in a sense,

768
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: what we do is we serve our clients and you

769
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: have to have a servant's heart. Get paid for you

770
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: get paid nicely for it. But you know you do

771
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: have to um have those other things. You know. Being dependable,

772
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: there's no excuses not being where you need to be

773
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: at the time you're supposed to be there. I mean,

774
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: that's just that's that's UM executive protection one on one. Uh.

775
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Luckily for me, I learned that from law for my

776
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: law force today. But yeah, just being dedicated, being honest,

777
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: being dependable, being flexible. Flexibility is another go on because UM,

778
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we're dealing with entertainment clients.

779
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: You A lot of times what I'm trained to do,

780
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't get a chance to exercise those things. So

781
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: you have to be flexible because there isn't a lot

782
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: of flexibility there for YouTube or time for you to

783
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: do what you you're trained to do to make sure

784
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: that that client is safe. So you have to be

785
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: flexible and deal with the hand that you're giving. It's

786
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: really it's true. Um, you know you was an undercover

787
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: narcotics detective there lending homicide. Like you said, you know

788
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: that's a dark side of life. And you want to

789
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: just get into the entrepreneur field just to spend time

790
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: with your son, just to just to be there when

791
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: it was so much a for the hour, week or

792
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: over times you have to spend. But also knowing that

793
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: you have a son you have to raise and then

794
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: you then you found and become the CEO Armor Bearer

795
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Protective Services. What is the key? A couple of key

796
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: things that really established the growth of your company. Oh man,

797
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: too many things that come to mind. Ra off the back. Um,

798
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: well a little more. But but initially I have the

799
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: support of a wonderful wife at home. My wife Chim,

800
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: she she supports me. I'm going a lot, so she

801
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: made sure the household thing is taken care of. My

802
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: wife is wonderful, so I get to go out on

803
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: the road do what I do and not have to

804
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: worry about what's going on at home. The second thing

805
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: is I have a great team that works with me

806
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: here armar bet um um starting with my CEO, Will Goesbro. Um.

807
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I just we we have a great team. A team. Well,

808
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't subscribe to you know, I make

809
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: all the you know the rules and in decisions, I

810
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: do it with the team effort. And UM, I have

811
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: a team that I actually trust to give me the

812
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: right feedback, give me the right information so that we

813
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: can make it uh considered uh um decision on what

814
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: it is we need to do to move forward. The

815
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: other thing is um I think early on for me

816
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: is I decided that if I was going to go

817
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: into the private sector, I needed number one to be

818
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: uh to educate myself to the private sector. So I

819
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: feel like everyone who does something entrepreneurs, they need to

820
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: become a student of their industry. So I read a lot.

821
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: I make sure that I availed myself to differences in style. UM.

822
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: A good friend of mine, he ruins a company in

823
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: in DC area. He his company is totally different from mine,

824
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: and it's easy for me to sit back and and

825
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: say that you know where this or where that. But no,

826
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: when I sat down and had a conversation with them,

827
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: Um we call him school. He Um explained what he

828
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: does and his brand is just different from mine. And

829
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: so it's just like I said, you have to become

830
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: a student of the game. I understand that. You know,

831
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: everyone is different, everyone has something to offer, and no

832
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: one's better than the other. You just try to be

833
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the best version of you. I totally agree with that.

834
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing about it that I want

835
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: to just put on top of that is relationships are key.

836
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Your your your name, your brand is key because when

837
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about security, it's about trust. You have to

838
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: trust and you have to be patient because sometimes you

839
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: might just be standing outside the restaurant five hours. You

840
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: might stand outside the hotel doubt door and you don't

841
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna leave that hotel door. You have

842
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: to exercise patients, good vision and and and also realize

843
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: that you're not the star. You're not the star. You

844
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: are the person there to secure people, to make sure

845
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: they get home to their family. And if they have fans,

846
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: the fans don't feel like you're the jerk. H he's

847
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: the jerk. So it's a lot of things that come

848
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: into play that a lot of people don't realize. When

849
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: you're providing security, it's not just a step aside, step aside,

850
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: get out the way, get out the way, get out

851
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: the way. You're really shaping and also helping to develop

852
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: and maintain that corporate executive company's brand or that celebrity's

853
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,520
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918
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Speaker 1: both of their careers span more than four decades of

919
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Speaker 1: acting and directing. In addition to coach starring in the

920
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Speaker 1: Netflix film The Five Bloods, which is outstanding. By the way,

921
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Speaker 1: Clarke Peters can also be seen in HBO's fantasy TV

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Speaker 1: My man down in New Orleans right now Isai Whitlock Jr. Outible.

925
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Speaker 1: Notable film credits include Black Clansmen, so that Pete Dragon

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Speaker 1: Man Brian Cranston in a new short time limited serious

928
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Speaker 1: Call Your Honor. The Five Bloods is premiering on Netflix

929
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Speaker 1: on June twelve. Please walk on to money main conversations

930
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Speaker 1: my man Clark Peters who's in London, and Isaiah Whitlock Jr.

931
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Speaker 1: Who was in New Orleans. How are you guys, fellows?

932
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Fellers? Very well? Thank you held

933
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: a lovely introduction. Brother. Well, first of all, that's a

934
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Speaker 1: shortened version of how great you guys resumes look. And

935
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Speaker 1: I just appreciate you guys. Allow me to pull some

936
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Speaker 1: nuggets out of your resume just to let the world

937
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: know how special you two are and and and also

938
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: how special this movie The Five Bloods is really about.

939
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: But before I just want to act a question right

940
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Speaker 1: quick for each one of you. Peters, how did you

941
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: get started acting? And what was your first major project?

942
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Can you answer that question from me? Yes, I got

943
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: started following my my older brother first of all, as

944
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: as children, we always wanted to perform together. He went

945
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: to Paris in around nineteen sixty eight or sixty nine

946
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Speaker 1: somewhere on a sabbatical from school, and I went over

947
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Speaker 1: to visit him while he was performing in the musical

948
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Speaker 1: hair I Um Um. Short story is that he didn't

949
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Speaker 1: show up one night, and I went on on his

950
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Speaker 1: place and that was my first that was my first gig.

951
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Speaker 1: The okay, you know, well and he didn't and he

952
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Speaker 1: didn't bother to come back, so I think it. Okay,

953
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Speaker 1: I got I got the family clever. You know, I'll

954
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Speaker 1: make sure the families at least going to be represented.

955
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, man hockey ad, How did you started acting

956
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: and what was your first major project? You know? I um,

957
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: I got started acting. I had gone to college on

958
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: a athletic scholarship and uh, one day Brittain mind said

959
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: they were going to to audition for a play and

960
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: if I wanted to come along, and I did it.

961
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: They had me get up and read I got the part.

962
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: She didn't. She never spoke to me again. Okay, okay,

963
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, but the way I like to look at it, know,

964
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you got there, as long as

965
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Speaker 1: you did. You know, it's been it's been quite a career.

966
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Well this it's beautiful. You know. He ran his brother

967
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: out of the country and you just stopped talking to somebody.

968
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: I love that. That's that I'm talking to my man.

969
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: Clark Peters and Isaiah went like Jr. There're two stars

970
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: of the movie The Five Bloods, which will be premiered

971
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: on Netflix on June twelve. Now, The Five Bloods moved

972
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: by five guys who served time together in Vietnam, but

973
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: it's also a movie by black history, if you guys

974
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: can expound, because that's really Spike Gleeman. He's something else. Now.

975
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm enjoying the movie and he just dropping

976
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: these nuggets. And I was. I was sitting to my wife,

977
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: I go, you know, he telling us about black history.

978
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: You know. She said, Yeah, that's that's black history right there.

979
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: That's black his you right there. And so that was

980
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: beautiful high laid that in there. Comment on that, both

981
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: of y'all, I'd like to hear from both sides of it.

982
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'll folliva. Well, you know, I don't think

983
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: you can do one with this movie. I don't think

984
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: you could do one without the other, because I think

985
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: by dropping, you know, those nuggets of black history into

986
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: the film, you began to understand the dynamics of what

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: these brothers were going through, you know, and uh, what

988
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: they were feeling. So you had to do To me,

989
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: it always seemed like you had to do both together

990
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: to be able to get the impact. If you just

991
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: did one you didn't quite get it, but when you

992
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: sort of backed it up with that Black History lesson,

993
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: you began to see and understand and feel the dynamics

994
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: of the film. Also, I think what what you're getting

995
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: is not only the the the context of in which

996
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: these men were serving, but you're also getting their point

997
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Speaker 1: of view on the existence of African Americans in the

998
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Speaker 1: States and the and the breadth of experiences that we

999
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Speaker 1: have politically and spiritually, so forth and so on. And

1000
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Speaker 1: yet as diverse as these brothers were, you know, they

1001
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Speaker 1: had all gone in separate ways once they once they

1002
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Speaker 1: left and had a merit of experiences, yet they still

1003
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: maintain the love for each other, which appears to be

1004
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: somewhere missing today. You know, that type of that that

1005
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: type of brotherhood, and even that is commented on on

1006
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: in the in the in the piece, and Spike has

1007
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: a way of doing that. You know, I'm glad that

1008
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Speaker 1: he I'm glad he's the megaphone you know for uh,

1009
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, for for for us. You know there should

1010
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Speaker 1: be more, but you know, we understand the context within

1011
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: which he exists, you know, in that world, and just

1012
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: so many are going to get out there to reach

1013
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Speaker 1: just so many, you know, but I'm glad. I'm glad

1014
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: that we were certainly a part of part of this.

1015
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: You know that our craft is food. That's how our

1016
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: craft should be used, you know, for sure, we know

1017
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: the beauty of this movie was. First of all, it

1018
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: was let's let's break down the character to Five Bloods

1019
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: consisted of Storm and Norman. That was played by the

1020
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: Black Panther he always been known as the Black Panther,

1021
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman. And then my brother Paul as I was

1022
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: playing his character is played by Darry Orlando and Eddie

1023
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: that was norm Lewis Otis that was you Pluck Peters

1024
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: and then Melvin use Isaiah or that was Malvine was

1025
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: played by Isaiah with Lock Jr. Also on this journey

1026
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: was Paul's son, which is David, played by Jonathan Major's. Now,

1027
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: you guys, first of all, the music was outstanding. That

1028
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: music should have been just a tribute to Marvin Gaye

1029
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: because uh it was it, Yes, yes, you know, his

1030
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: brilliance of Uh it was timeless because I guess what,

1031
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: it's one of the all time great albums at the

1032
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: time and just a generational talent because that music is

1033
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: h can be played right now and be very relevant.

1034
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: Now when you guys got the script? Okay, because what's

1035
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: it set in Vietnam? What you guys shooting locally? What

1036
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: did you shoot at the movie at we're both Vietnam

1037
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: and Thailand? Uh? Pretty much the Jungles of Tiler or

1038
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: the Jungles. Okay, cool? Now, I have fun watching you

1039
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: guys try to dance. Okay, in the beginning, Okay, I'm

1040
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it out there. You know, you know,

1041
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I said you had that little said

1042
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I said you had that little skippy going, the little

1043
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: skippy hop going. I was getting the ground now, I was,

1044
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: I was ground, okay. And then and then Peter's he

1045
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna close out with the funky chicken. You know, you

1046
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: can't dance if you're doing the funky chicken. You know,

1047
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, I had a drink in my hand hand.

1048
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.

1049
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's true. So so I'm filming

1050
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: the poculas now, jam and what you guys, Damn, what

1051
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: you guys say? Okay, Peter's he can't dance, he's doing

1052
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: the chicken at least Is said, you was hanging in

1053
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: there with the little Drake had that little rock step

1054
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: going and Darrel, are you know he really had the

1055
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: little like Darrel dancing closer to me because let me,

1056
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't say hey, so Darrow kind of had my

1057
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: my smoothness. And and Paul norm we need to stop. No,

1058
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm really really need to stop acting like his a

1059
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: little pigeon told Knock needed behind. He really need to

1060
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: stop acting like he could bass the part you didn't

1061
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: think was getting oxygen. Oh, this is fun, This is fun,

1062
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: and I'm having fun with you, cause don't let everybody

1063
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: know this is a reunion movie. But it's also it's

1064
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: a family movie and it's my friends learning about each other.

1065
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: And then it's a treasure hunting movie too, m m

1066
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: with the Treasure of Sierra. Yeah, you know, it was

1067
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: so fun. I was, I'm watching the movie. I said,

1068
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I was just gonna be real like you,

1069
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: I've never seen this in a black movie like this,

1070
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: not just usually that's what spike do You spike and

1071
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: give you something that you never saw and I supposedly

1072
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: drawn genrous and y'all did it so well. You got

1073
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: you out to Isaiah with the Metal Detective. You were

1074
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: funniest heck. You know, Peters, you out there with a

1075
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: bad hip. You was funniest heck and stubborn with a

1076
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: bad hip. So so I'll start with you, Isaiah, tell

1077
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: everybody about your character because we're gonna have fun with this,

1078
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: and then Peters you follow him up. Okay, you know

1079
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Melbourne Melvine, he was. He was. He was supposed to

1080
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: be the youngest of the group, and he had lied,

1081
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: he had lied about his age to get into the service.

1082
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: But he was sort of like this free spirit. You know,

1083
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: he didn't really he didn't really have the you know,

1084
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: those strong moral values and things like that. I mean,

1085
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he didn't have any, but he

1086
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: was more of a black and white kind of person.

1087
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Uh, you know, you you

1088
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: want to you want to talk about reparations. Well, I'm

1089
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: looking at all this gold here. I got mine, you know, right.

1090
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: So he you know, he was, he was, you know,

1091
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: he was pretty much a matter of fact, that being said,

1092
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, when push came to shove, I mean, he was,

1093
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: he was. He was a real soldier and he was

1094
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: he was very protective with the guys around him, and um,

1095
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: uh you couldn't. You couldn't really sell them short, you know.

1096
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: But I wanted people to sort of feel that, you know,

1097
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: that you know, he was a bit up, a fun

1098
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: loving guy. I mean, you know, he's the first time

1099
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: you see us in the movie. I'm at the counter

1100
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: my credit card, but I got a drink already. I

1101
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that he gonna come and try

1102
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: and whipped out his black card like he's somebody I

1103
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta drink. Before I even checked in, I

1104
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: came there to do I care. And you know the

1105
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: thing is, I had to explain to someone the other

1106
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: day about the DAPT because they had seen the movie

1107
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: and they said, well, you know, I like the way

1108
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 1: Spike uh he added some modern touches. And I said,

1109
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: what do you mean. They said, well, the handshakes and

1110
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I said, no, no, no, that's

1111
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: that's all of that started during the Vietnam War. That's

1112
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: not you know, uh, that's not a basketball thing. I

1113
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: see it, you know, And I said, you know, all

1114
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: of that came out of that. But it was there

1115
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: was there was there was, there was a bond there

1116
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: and it showed like what part of Vietnam you had

1117
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: served it where from? Things like that, So you really

1118
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: had to kind of embrace it and um. And that's

1119
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: what my character did and it was great. All right there, Clark,

1120
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: I apologize. Uh what a death was supposed to have?

1121
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: It is an an acronym for something. I can't quite

1122
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: remember what it what it was for d A P.

1123
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: What was that? Can you remember, Isaiah? I can't remember. No, Yeah, yeah,

1124
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's um. It was an an acronym

1125
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: for something I can't I can't quite remember. But when

1126
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: we realized that that it was more than just a greeting,

1127
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: it took on a whole another thing. I think for

1128
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: all of us. You know, it's you know, because not

1129
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: not everyone, not everyone had the same the same depth,

1130
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, so you knew that if you gave a

1131
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: certain depth, that you were from a certain unit in

1132
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: a certain time, and you know, it was it was

1133
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: it was our drum. It was it was it was

1134
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: our drum. You know, they can take away to drum,

1135
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: but they can't take away to skin. What what? What

1136
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I also realized was that even if we were doing it,

1137
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: we all had our we all had our favorite death. Yea,

1138
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: some there were some who were better than others in

1139
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: certain areas of the death. And we all had our

1140
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: favorite depth. But you have to learn all of them

1141
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: because you never knew what you were going to get

1142
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: hit with. You know. That's that's that that part of

1143
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: the dapping program. I would have been left off. I've

1144
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: been left off the dapping pack. And I was born

1145
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: in that era. I was born in the era the bump,

1146
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, Folking Chicken, I had it all down, pat.

1147
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: The great thing about your character, Peters was that you

1148
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: are medic and so and I said, that's great because

1149
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen you know, that shows that there

1150
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: was educated black men participating other than just shooting the gun.

1151
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: You were saving lives. And I think that was a

1152
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: calculated character development for Spike in this movie. Correct, Yes,

1153
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: I thought. Uh. And and also with with his history,

1154
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, and with these particular brothers, with these five bloods,

1155
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, he had seen parts of their bodies and

1156
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: inside that they had never seen before. You know, the

1157
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: know he is he taking bullets out of them, He

1158
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: showed them up, you know. Uh, he kept their morale

1159
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: together in the in the field and as we see

1160
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: also later on when when we when we had the reunion,

1161
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, I love his humanity. I love that that

1162
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: that we are allowed to express our humanity like this

1163
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: because he's not a fictitious character. You know. There were

1164
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: brothers like this, and there are brothers like this and

1165
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: women who are like this today, you know. So you know,

1166
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: it was it was an honor to celebrate to where

1167
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: that that that persona you know, For myself, I find

1168
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: it easy because I love these brothers, you know, I

1169
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: love them off off the camera, you know, Isaia and

1170
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: I go go way back, you know, So it's easy.

1171
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: It's easy to have this camaraderie and have this fun,

1172
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, and to look after them and aren't they enough?

1173
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: You feel like you you know, it's sometimes you I

1174
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: supposed to carry your your your work home, you know,

1175
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: but I didn't mind carrying Otis back back to the

1176
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: hotel with me, you know most nights, you know, and

1177
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: still hanging on out with with the brothers and keeping

1178
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 1: an eye on them. You know, we were we were

1179
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: in a situation over there in Thailand last year where

1180
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: we were wearing masks, you know, because because the weather

1181
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: was so bad and I found myself making sure that

1182
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, we all right. You know, you know that's

1183
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: awesome thing. We also needed one another, you know, I

1184
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: mean such ah. You know, we knew what we were

1185
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: in for. The days were hard, the days were long,

1186
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: the days were not and we just desperately needed one another.

1187
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: We needed to pick each other up and make sure

1188
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: that each other were okay. I think it was hot.

1189
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: I know it got hot when I was out there

1190
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: looking for the goal, that it got hot there because

1191
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: I was there, You looked like it was hot. You

1192
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: looked like when you said, look, man, I'm looking for

1193
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: the goal. I ain't picking up nothing. I said, he

1194
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: ain't acting now, honey, he's not acting. It was remember said,

1195
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: he's got acting before I'm talking to my man. Clark

1196
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Peters and Isaiah with Lock of two stars of the

1197
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: movie The Five Bloods, premier on Netflix on June twelve.

1198
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: What you're about saying, Isaiah, No, but there was there

1199
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: was one shot in the movie where I looked at

1200
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: myself and I said, I said, then I really looked

1201
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: that damn bad. It just seemed like each other. Hey man,

1202
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: hey man, when you was out there looking for that

1203
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: if Isaiah when you was out there looking for painting.

1204
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: You don't had your little meter out there, little melo detector.

1205
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: You You were hot, brother, you were hot. You're looking

1206
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: for some cold water, some ice water, some act were

1207
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: they gonna call cut something here because this is some

1208
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: real heat out here my trailers. What I was looking for.

1209
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: It's two other dynamic characters that Paul. I mean, I

1210
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: just gotta said by Darryl or Lindo what he did

1211
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: in this movie as the character Paul. I'm gonna tell

1212
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: you all you guys get fantastic jobs, amazing job. He

1213
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: has some monologues. Man, if we don't see him in

1214
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: some nominations in the fall, I'm gonna be really really

1215
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: hurt because then he laid it out to make sure,

1216
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: make sure you express that hurt there too, Russian, because

1217
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: you know there's there's uh that one scene where he

1218
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: walks off, you know, and he right, you know what

1219
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking on that particular day, you know, it was

1220
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: it was a pretty intense day. Do you remember this Isaiah?

1221
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: He walked off and it was like God was with him,

1222
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: Nature was with him, because a storm came up from nowhere,

1223
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: a star came up from nowhere, and my man was

1224
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: just riding the energy of that storm. And you couldn't

1225
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: help but to feel. You couldn't help but to feel

1226
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: the emotion and wherever he was going in his spirit

1227
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: right to find that the Earth and God was with him.

1228
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: And we hope that that comes on through. It does

1229
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: it does? It does? First of all, it's a hurt

1230
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: soul or all you guys, his character was the hurt character.

1231
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: The character who was still carrying Vietnam window. Later on

1232
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: we find out why, but he still was carrying PTSD

1233
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: was all in his spirit. He never was able to

1234
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: walk away or have a life, or have a life

1235
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: with his son who and his son? I want to

1236
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: get more detail, but that the whole breakdown was amazing

1237
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: and told a different story besides the five bloods and

1238
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: that relationships as it grew out. But it was interesting.

1239
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: I was reading the article about that, uh that Spike

1240
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Lee said. He said, there was no c G I

1241
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: budget to make you make my man look doing the flashbacks. Okay,

1242
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,959
Speaker 1: that's what Spike said. And I'm gonna tell you guys something.

1243
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, I always your people when you dream or

1244
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: you think back, you never see yourself when you dream

1245
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: and you think, God, you only see what you see, okay.

1246
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: And so so when you guys were having those flashbacks,

1247
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: I always saw it from you guys perspective. He was

1248
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be younger. Okay, he was, because it would

1249
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: be told from your perspectives. And if first of all

1250
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: such brilliant acting, it didn't matter. So I was I

1251
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: always stayed in the moment during the flashbacks because you

1252
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: guys were going back to where you were thinking about

1253
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: when you're younger. Hey, whenever I think about somebody but you,

1254
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: I hope the God, I don't think of somebody look

1255
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: at my age now in the seventies. When I'm thinking

1256
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: about how that person looking into seventies, that person looks

1257
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: like that person in the seventies, and I am who

1258
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: I am today. It was brilliantly I know he said that,

1259
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: but I you want to tell you guys, it were

1260
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: The thing is that when you started tinkering, tinkering around

1261
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: with the c G I you know, then the audience,

1262
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: the audience watching it, they're they're they're they're no longer

1263
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: paying attention to the story, right, they're paying attention to

1264
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: you trying to look younger. Yes, and by by us

1265
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: just being ourselves standing in a moment date in the story.

1266
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: Date in the moment date of the story. You didn't

1267
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: have you were you were not distracted. It's what I'm

1268
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: trying to say. Absolutely. I always tell people black and

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Speaker 1: you had to be able to act when they started

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Speaker 1: adding that color and all that stuff. The background, the

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Speaker 1: sunstee sunset was yellow. You know, they could have some

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Speaker 1: bad acting when you guys went from from the younger

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Speaker 1: character and then you went back to the Vietnam. I

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Speaker 1: felt it was real. I felt the emotion, I felt

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Speaker 1: the pain, I felt the journey. Just a fantastic jaw,

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Speaker 1: A great movie. The Five Blood premiers June twelfth on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: But before I go be, I'll be remissed because we

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Speaker 1: know the times. We're both all three of us African

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Speaker 1: American men, and we'll be remissed to talk about how

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Speaker 1: this pandemic or COVID nineteen is affecting our community. Uh

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Speaker 1: In April, when the when the CDC came out of

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Speaker 1: the affective patients in Atlanta or African Americans in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: the state of Louisiana seven out of teen in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. We are a race of people who are

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Speaker 1: overly affected by this in a country that's not understanding

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Speaker 1: how they can take care of themselves, let alone take

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Speaker 1: care of us. Any comments on the team Russians? Kid?

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Speaker 1: Can I can I put connect with this to you?

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Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't in the States when when when

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Speaker 1: the when that those figures came out? And and I

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Speaker 1: don't want it, and I repeat this. I do not

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Speaker 1: want to minimize the the pandemic or the importance of

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Speaker 1: any virus that's in the air that is affecting human beings.

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Speaker 1: I'm not minimizing that at all. But what you guys

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Speaker 1: were getting over there as one bit of information, we

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01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: were getting the complete opposite over here. What we got

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Speaker 1: over here was that it was not something that was

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Speaker 1: affecting people of color. What we got over here was

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Speaker 1: that it was going after the after the elderly first,

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Speaker 1: and those who were whose immune systems were compromised. It

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Speaker 1: was and if anything, the young blood's over here was saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't bother people of Afro Caribbean descent. That's what

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Speaker 1: was going on here. Now, we've been around long enough,

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Speaker 1: we've been around long enough to know how how a

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Speaker 1: machine will will effect or use people of color, people

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Speaker 1: of a lesser uh circumstance for its own means. You know,

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Speaker 1: now we have not only the pandemic, but we also

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Speaker 1: have this five G thing that's going up as well,

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Speaker 1: running alongside right. Well, I see that and that, and

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Speaker 1: that is exactly my point. We don't know. We don't know,

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Speaker 1: because you get something over here, you get something over there.

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Speaker 1: But what I do know is this is that Tuskegee

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Speaker 1: was an experiment. You know. What I do know is

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Speaker 1: that when the pilgrims came out over to the New

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Speaker 1: Land and they wanted some they want some land, they

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Speaker 1: gave the indigenous people some blankets. You know, I do

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Speaker 1: know that according to history. You know, that first pandemic

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Speaker 1: that came through in nineteen in the early nineteen hundreds

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Speaker 1: was on the back of the introduction of X rays

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Speaker 1: into the world old. So I'm and like I say,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there's not to minimize the the but I

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Speaker 1: think that one needs to really be uh to think

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Speaker 1: through and use your mind and do not give up

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Speaker 1: the responsibility of your health to somebody else. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that do not give it up to

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Speaker 1: somebody else. You know, God gave you that body and

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Speaker 1: that mind for you to work within that temple and

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Speaker 1: for you to keep that clean, for you look after that.

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Speaker 1: But you know about I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, but

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean to cut you off, lark No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was pretty much done because like I'm moving to

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Speaker 1: the edge of my seat now and I was standing

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Speaker 1: up and I love it. I love it. Thank you,

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. People wanted to say. What I

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Speaker 1: wanted to say was that I think this pandemic has

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Speaker 1: really raised the veil on a deeper problem that has

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Speaker 1: been that. You know, it's just like you're looking up

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Speaker 1: underneath the hood and you're seeing, you know what the

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Speaker 1: real problem is, uh, and starting to ask a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, Why why is it this way? Why do

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: is there so much diabetes? High blood pressure? Why? Uh? Yes,

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: why why are we why why are we in this

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01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: type of situation? And the more you dig, the more

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01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: you begin to realize that this is not This has

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Speaker 1: been going on for years. I mean and I'm when

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Speaker 1: I say years, I'm talking centuries and uh, and going forward,

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Speaker 1: it needs to be fixed. All of this stuff about

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Speaker 1: the heroes and essential people and everything like that. Uh,

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01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: when this pandemic is over, if it's ever over, I

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see what we do

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: going forward. You want to if those that build essential

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: people are taking care of, if those heroes are taking

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Speaker 1: care of if if if things are are are are thick,

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: if we need to go back to doing what we

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: were doing, that's that's gonna be really sad. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very you know, and and and you know what

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: we do is all we have to do is look

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Speaker 1: at the way that our veterans are being taken care of. Absolutely, absolutely,

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: look at the way our veterans have been taken care of,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and that's what this is all about. Hey, fellas,

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: I want to thinking about heroes and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be one. Absolutely, here's the deal. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank both of you guys for coming on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this first half talking to you guys, it's been amazingly fun.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know. They gave me a time limit.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to go beyond that. Clark

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Speaker 1: Peters Eyes with Like Juniors, two of the stars of

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Speaker 1: the Five Blood premiering on Netflix on Julish twelve. Guys,

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Speaker 1: any closing comments before we get out of here, other

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Speaker 1: than there's a great movie and go see on Netflix

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Speaker 1: and uh, making a trending movie, making number one for

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Speaker 1: about five or six weeks and let's get some million

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Speaker 1: beings on it and all that good stuff. Because I'm

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Speaker 1: been doing my part. First, I'm doing my part. Listen

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Speaker 1: to let's to what Rashawn saying. It's I can put

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Speaker 1: that on, put that on there, just what Rashawn says.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your fellows. I appreciate y'all. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. And we'll talking soon. I got

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Speaker 1: I'm interviewing dead Water to day too, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have fun. Thank you, teammates. Bye bye, absolutely absolutely bye

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Speaker 1: bye already man I am. If you want to hear

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Speaker 1: Act Council. Welcome out. My next guest is a proud

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Speaker 1: native of Inglewood, California, eagle Wood. She's also the proud

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Speaker 1: owner of that. I had to say that. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: She's also deliterally l a for fifteen years. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: say eagle Wood. She's also the proud owner of The

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Speaker 1: Girl Cave Los Angeles, a chain of beauty supply stores

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Speaker 1: and lifestyle brands in Los Angeles. She's also the owner

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Speaker 1: of a juice bar. She's a real estate mogul and

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Speaker 1: a former model. Her hopes ought to promote a more

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Speaker 1: realistic standard of beauty for all women. Please work with

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Speaker 1: the money making conversations. One of the stars of Bravos

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Speaker 1: married to Metas in Los Angeles, Leah Diez. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's a great introduction. I love it well. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, thank you for saying that. I wanted just

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Speaker 1: it was part of you. Wanted for you to explain

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Speaker 1: to me a little bit about you said your hope

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Speaker 1: is to promote a more realistic standard of beauty for

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Speaker 1: all women. Explains what you mean by that? Well? For me,

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Speaker 1: I was in the modeling industry for a while and

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Speaker 1: I remember being a young woman and feeling when I

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Speaker 1: got rejected that it was something wrong with me, right,

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Speaker 1: like my features, and you know there's things about me

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Speaker 1: that you know, other people don't see as beautiful. And

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Speaker 1: so in my stores, I don't want people to feel

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Speaker 1: like they have to fit a mold. Like if you

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Speaker 1: like your hair natural, then we have stuff for you

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Speaker 1: to be natural. If you wearing weeds and weeds and

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Speaker 1: all of it's fine, Like there's no one way to be.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I try to come across. I

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Speaker 1: want my customers to pick up in my store and

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Speaker 1: even with my marketing materials and my advertisement, to make

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Speaker 1: sure that I cover all spans, all spectrums of it

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Speaker 1: is to be a woman. It's not just one thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, it really is important that you do that,

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Speaker 1: especially in this era of social media. You know, a day,

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Speaker 1: she just got posted that picture of her losing weight,

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Speaker 1: and people will on her, you know, like she doesn't

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Speaker 1: have an option. She she can't change her. She looks

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Speaker 1: exactly and she to me, she's fabulous either way. But

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Speaker 1: that's a class sample of her having control. She it's

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Speaker 1: her body. If she wants to be three hundred pounds

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Speaker 1: or a hundred and fifty pounds, that's her choice. And

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Speaker 1: so I just feel like we need to be more mindful,

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Speaker 1: especially as women, to just embrace who we are and

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Speaker 1: help other women embraces they are. Well, that's why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get that out because I felt when I

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Speaker 1: read that about you, you know, it was important because

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Speaker 1: of the fact it wouldn't be in part of part

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Speaker 1: of your bio, part of your DNA and then being

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Speaker 1: the or model. You know, that's a very superficial world.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of you read a lot of

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Speaker 1: horror stories by you know, weight weight issues, and and

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Speaker 1: there's a short window for success and and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of harassment that goes into those levels. And especially

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Speaker 1: when you come in young and you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: make it, sometimes you make decisions that are uncomfortable, that

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Speaker 1: are uncomfortable for you because you're just trying to get

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. But it all goes back to how you look,

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Speaker 1: and that's unfortunate. So when I see a Lizzo jumping

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Speaker 1: out there and doing her thing and being very comfortable,

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Speaker 1: this always lets me know it's not so much about

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Speaker 1: And I have a daughter who's twenty two, and it's

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Speaker 1: important for her to be herself, you know. And when

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Speaker 1: you said that statement, I said, I I gotta really

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Speaker 1: expound on that a lot more because I felt it

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Speaker 1: was important for you to say, this is what you do.

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Speaker 1: You're in the you're in the beauty lane, you're in

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: the entertainment lane, You're you're you're stepping out there and

1478
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: your fans are following you. Your fans are recognizing you

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: as a model of of a brand. Not so a

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01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: model for sense or fashion model or makeup model, but

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: a model, a role model, I should say, a role model. Correct, absolutely, absolutely,

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: And so I want to be conscientious of that when

1483
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm promoting my stores and even promoting myself, that I

1484
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: don't put women in a box, because that's not it's

1485
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: not fair. No, we're gonna talk about the box in

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01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: the minute, subscription in a minute. So don't dump the gun.

1487
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: Don't dump the gun over. Let's talk about it. I

1488
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: said in your credit to a Bravo was married to

1489
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: Medicine Los Angeles. For my fans who may have not

1490
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: seen the show, and they are fans who have seen

1491
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: the show, please explain to everybody what exactly is married

1492
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: to medicine, and that's one question, and then i'mnna ask

1493
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: you how did you get involved? God? So, Married to

1494
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: Medicine is a concept um that was on the Broblem network.

1495
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: There's a show in Atlanta, been on the air for

1496
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: eight years and so recently in the last two years,

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: Bravo has taken the concept here to l a um

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01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: and it really just is about the black female positions.

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01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: Half of the women on the show are doctors O. B. G.

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: Y Enza and a psiologists and psychiatrists, and then the

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 1: other women myself included, we're married to positions, and so

1502
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: you get to see the world of one medicine but

1503
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: also two black doctors, which to me is amazing because

1504
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know any other show on television that showcases

1505
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: black positions. And it's a great thing to be a

1506
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: part of. Right, So how did you get involved? Okay?

1507
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: So Amani who's one of the ladies on the show

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01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, doctor Monty, she's a psychiatrist. Her

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01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: husband yes, yes, so they met because they worked together

1510
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: and so I was interested to money through my husband. Okay,

1511
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 1: So here's a deal. Okay, So you have a brand

1512
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: and if we hear horror stories, you know, basketball, while

1513
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: I set a tone out there for what the reality

1514
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: shows could do, you know, going to cross table, throwing dishes,

1515
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: grabbing weaves, all that kind of stuff. When you told

1516
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: your friends, are you told your your love one that

1517
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: you may do this show? What were the thoughts that

1518
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: came out of their mouths? And did you have to

1519
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: calm them dad? Or did you have to do you

1520
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: just pitched them ahead of tip to cut off any

1521
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: let them know that you're not gonna do anything crazy

1522
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: that they've seen, or they have an idea of what

1523
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: reality shows are doing. They don't do it as much

1524
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: as they used to do back in the day, but

1525
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: because I think they're more storyline driven. But back in

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: the day they were a horror story. Yeah, there there were,

1527
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest with you, there still are some

1528
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: um within this Bravo Maryson Medicine crew. Um, but I'll

1529
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,959
Speaker 1: say I got mixed reviews. My husband was really supportive

1530
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: because obviously we had watched the show before because the

1531
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: money was on it, and so we liked what we saw. Um,

1532
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: But other family members that were like, girl, you have employees,

1533
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: be very careful, right right, You're mentored to these young girls.

1534
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: Most of the women that worked for me are under

1535
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the age of so that was that whole that people

1536
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: are like, you know, just be very careful, and so

1537
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: I like that I am who I am with the

1538
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: camera crew. Without it, I'm just who I am. And

1539
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: so it's not always pretty, it's not always lovely, but

1540
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: I do do a lot of great things. So I'm

1541
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: happy that I'm seeing a hundred percent the way that

1542
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I am. And you know, there's certain things I'm just

1543
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: not gonna do that you never see me, you know,

1544
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: climbing across the table, pulling someone's hair, but see me

1545
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: get you know, indignant or loud or you know, trying

1546
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: to get my point across. But I feel like that's

1547
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: true to who I am. So you'll never do something

1548
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do without a camera crew. There absolutely

1549
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: and I respect that. I feel that to me. I

1550
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: always tell people, you know, this is a this is

1551
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: a brand build for you, especially if you are brands

1552
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: that you want to sell and you're an entrepreneur, and

1553
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,959
Speaker 1: I feel your small entrepreneur. And so my thought process

1554
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: when I heard and read you know, press release came

1555
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: out and I did a little research on your view.

1556
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: I've been following you before that before this interview. Now,

1557
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, this ain't just an interview I just popped

1558
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: up on last week now, And because I always because

1559
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: I always look at why people do things, and I

1560
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: felt that there was a move for you to just

1561
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: grow your brand, to you know, to grow your social media,

1562
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: to put a face in front of your buildings and

1563
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: attract more revenue and also to expand your brand. Is

1564
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: that is that a course of action that I'm I'm

1565
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: speaking of correctly. Absolutely, as a business owner, you have

1566
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: to do things that are outside of your comfort zone

1567
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: for the betterment of your business. And this show is

1568
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: definitely something that for me was out of my comfort zone.

1569
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: But I recognize that it was going to be a

1570
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: platform that I mean, it's a gift. I mean, the

1571
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: platform like this a million viewers every week. There's no

1572
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: way that would be able to do that on my

1573
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: own without using tons and tons of capital. So this

1574
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: show definitely as a platform for me, but also the

1575
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: other women too, like I'm inspired and like you know,

1576
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: a money is coming out with a book, and so

1577
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: to utilize this platform in the right way, I think

1578
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 1: is a smart business decision so well that well, I agree.

1579
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: You will not hear me say anything negative about your

1580
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: role on the show. I'm just using these various questions

1581
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: just to educate people about everything. I think everybody we've

1582
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: got a lot smarter about social media, We've got a

1583
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: lot smarter about understanding our brand. And I think that

1584
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: everybody first just wanted to just get on TV and

1585
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: everybody away. They can be there the next Kardashian if

1586
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: they do something crazy. Okay, there's so crazy. We are Kadashian,

1587
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, and we have a have a billion followers.

1588
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: But that's not the case. They have what what what people?

1589
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: I have seen that they're talented. They're not just pretty faces.

1590
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: These are business women too. If you look at them,

1591
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: they do business. It's just the same thing here, that's

1592
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: what you're doing. How since coming on the show, how

1593
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: has it impacted your social media growth? Let's go there first. Well,

1594
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I realized that I wasn't

1595
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: using social media in the correct way, UM until I

1596
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: was on the show. Explain Explain, well, I just I

1597
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: used it as um. I didn't use it often, I

1598
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: didn't use it phrase that I was supposed to. I

1599
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: mean I posted sometimes that I wasn't really getting my

1600
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: message across. I think being on the show and having

1601
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: a machine behind you like Bravo, and having other women

1602
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: that came before me that did it correctly, especially in Atlanta,

1603
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,919
Speaker 1: to use them as the blueprint. It helped me understand

1604
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: the way to do this right. You just don't like

1605
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: even the Kardashian you brought them up. They post, but

1606
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: their posts are very strategic. When they talk strategy, They're

1607
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: not just getting on just for the sake of you

1608
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: seeing them right. There's a message behind it. And so

1609
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm learning that I have learned that, especially being on

1610
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: the show the last few months, that I have to

1611
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: be intentional with how it speaks to my audience. I

1612
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: have to understand and that has been helpful. Well, you know,

1613
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: I read something a long time ago about Kim Kardashian.

1614
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: She said that for every post she's take like of herself,

1615
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: she takes like my five hundred pictures, makes you sure?

1616
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: And and that taught me something that way, Okay, this

1617
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: is a business you know that just don't post any

1618
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: anything just to be posting it. Look at it, we

1619
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: look at justify why you're posting it. Make sure it's

1620
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: the best look of you when you post it, and

1621
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: then people because you're marketing, You're constantly marketing, and that's

1622
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: what social media is all about. And so because you've

1623
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of brands that you have out there,

1624
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: and let's talk about let's go to the first one.

1625
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to break after this one to come

1626
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: back and talk about the Cave, Girl, the girl Cave

1627
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: at Los Angeles. Wanna talk about the subscription. We wanna

1628
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: talk about juice bar? Oh did sports bar? You have

1629
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: a sports bar too? I have a sports bar in

1630
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: the city of Inglewood. Girl. I'm taying, we got so

1631
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: much to talk about in this next parade. She is

1632
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: a businesswoman. She is also one of the stars are

1633
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Bravo's new Uh Weston is a new show because I

1634
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: say new and compared to Atlanta, it is kind of new,

1635
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: but it is. She's a new member of the team.

1636
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Married to Medicine Los Angeles, which airs every Sunday Sunday night,

1637
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: nine East Coast, eighth Central, which is nine West Coast

1638
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: as well. Be right back with ms dies. How is

1639
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 1: ru Sean McDonald And you're listening to money making Conversation?

1640
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: I have a fantastic interview going along right here with

1641
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: the one of the stars are married to Medicine Los Angeles.

1642
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 1: In fact, she's the newest star if you haven't seen

1643
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: the shows on Bravo every Sunday night, nine Eastern West Coast,

1644
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: eighth Central MS diaz Uh. She's the proud owner of

1645
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: the Girl Cave Los Angeles, a chain of beauty supply

1646
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: stores and lifestyle brand and lifestyle brands in Los Angeles.

1647
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: She also has a juice bar which is Juice It

1648
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Up l A. She also has a sports bar, champ

1649
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: City Bar, and she's a real estate mogul. So we're

1650
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna get to breaking this down one time.

1651
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna go this is gonna be our entire entrepreneur

1652
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: break about you. The first half was about your your

1653
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: concepts and everything. Not want to dig into your whole.

1654
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: You know what keeps you rolling, what keeps you motivating?

1655
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: Besides the show, it has to be the entrepreneurship. Tell

1656
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: us why it's important to be an entrepreneur, especially a

1657
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: female entrepreneur in in this day and age. You know what, Um,

1658
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. It's been a

1659
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: ride for me. It's been great. Part of what he's

1660
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: inspired is I have three kids, but I also have

1661
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: uh I desire just to be good, like to do

1662
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: good to you know, when I put something out, I

1663
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: wanted to to do well. And I think just in

1664
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: anything that I do, even if it's you know, making

1665
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: my bed in the morning, like, I want to do

1666
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: that well. And I think that that translates into my business.

1667
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: And I it's so much that we have going on

1668
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: and we just keep it going. And um, I don't

1669
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: even know where to start. We're gonna start at the

1670
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: Girl Cave or Zone mel Rose. That's that's that's the

1671
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: beauty location right on Mail Rose. So we've recently we've

1672
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: restructured the Girl came in the last and so that's

1673
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: part of my right. So when I got into this industry,

1674
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: I was not talking to my consumer. Listen, I'm a

1675
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: black girl from Inglewood. We like and so I was

1676
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: trying to be in an area of town where my

1677
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: customers weren't and they wanted to support me, but they didn't.

1678
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: It was hard for them to access my store. So

1679
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: I've recently closed what not recently, it's in the last

1680
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: year we've closed the Man the Melroll's location and we

1681
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: opened up the location in the city of Compton. So

1682
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: now we have three stores where in Inglewood, South, Los

1683
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Angeles and Compton, and we've basically just dug in and

1684
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: everything that you can think about for grooming, hair care,

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01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: nail care, waxing, everything could and go. We carry out

1686
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: the stores and so we have just restructured and it's

1687
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: been really good for us. Well, I love you know

1688
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: what you said. You know, Inglewood, Soft Los Angeles and Compton.

1689
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 1: That is the core of Black America in Los Angeles.

1690
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: That is your core audience that you're trying to reach.

1691
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: That's a loyal audience first of all, but also that's

1692
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: an audience that that that works at a certain price point.

1693
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: How do you work out the whole price point and

1694
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: making sure there are customers that come back to you.

1695
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: And this is where being married to medicine really in

1696
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: l A really helps your brand and those market shares

1697
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: that you just said your three stores are located at

1698
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: correct right, correct. So um, there's no secret that in

1699
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: the beauty supplied industry is not dominated by by black people.

1700
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: We we have issues sometimes as black owners getting competitive pricing.

1701
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: But I always say that that's not my customers problem,

1702
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: and that's my problem. And so I have to make

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01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: sure that my pricing is competitive compared to other stores,

1704
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: even though I might pay a little bit more for

1705
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the products because as UM a newer store, we've only

1706
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: been around for five years and in this industry that's

1707
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:08,560
Speaker 1: considered new UM and maybe have the relationships with the distributors.

1708
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do pay more for my products, but

1709
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: I also make sure that I just eat that costs

1710
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 1: and I don't pass it on to the consumer because

1711
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: my business issues are not their consumer issues, you know

1712
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So UM, Yeah, we stay competitive. I mean,

1713
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of it. Sometimes I go into other

1714
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: beauty supply stores and see what that price point is

1715
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: so I can understand and my overcharging and my undercharging,

1716
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: like I want to eat my competition. Well, you know,

1717
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: you're getting kind of famous, so you just can't roll

1718
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: in there like you used to roll in there, you

1719
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'll just let you know.

1720
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Now you can roll up and they're gonna start taking photos.

1721
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Famous person in the store, famous person in the store.

1722
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I need to go up, guys and send my daughter

1723
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: ere you go, you go but it's all good because

1724
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: I understand you're trying to make sure you stay competitive

1725
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 1: because in this business, people can lay you out to

1726
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the social media. Oh she's pricey. All hard stuff is

1727
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: she doesn't deliver on time, and that those things are there.

1728
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: And so one thing I really loved, I told that

1729
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: I went online and was talking about it was just

1730
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: really positives, he said. Now offering local delivery, Hey loss

1731
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 1: as looking for essential beauty items, braiding hair and their

1732
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: care supplies. We have expanded the ways you can shop

1733
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: from all three of our locations, which is which is

1734
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: the Inglewood location, the Compter location, and soft Soft Los

1735
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Angeles location. You deliver ship and provide curb side delivery

1736
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: that stand in the game. That is standing in the game.

1737
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. Well, I have to shift,

1738
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 1: and I mean in order to be successful, you have

1739
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: to move with the times and obviously with the shutdowns

1740
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: and um, you know, the virus going around. I have

1741
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm I'm saying in business, I

1742
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: got employees or paycheck and I'm you know, I'm invested

1743
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: in this. So we have to shift. We always had

1744
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 1: a website, but we're pushing that online so people understand that.

1745
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: And weve been getting orders literally from New Jersey, from Florida,

1746
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: from all over all over the country with push to

1747
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 1: push the website and then people just feel more comfortable

1748
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 1: shopping for essential goods online now, I mean, and so

1749
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: we have to meet the meet neat So we have

1750
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: a whole delivery team now, um and we're just out

1751
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: every day, every morning. We're assigning orders and we're getting

1752
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: them out so people get their orders within a few hours.

1753
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: And that's just been our new goal. We know it was.

1754
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: So it's so nice when you said we have a

1755
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: delivery team now you're so it's so proud of that

1756
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: because of the fact that one thing that's come out

1757
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: of the pandemic that we are dealing with it is

1758
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 1: is that black people have comfort the realization that technology

1759
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 1: has to become a part of their lifestyle. They have

1760
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: to embrace the online world out there that we've somehow battled.

1761
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: We used our phone just just to talk on or

1762
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: just to text on. Where our competitors are non African America,

1763
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,879
Speaker 1: are non people of color, use their phone to operate

1764
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: on to do their business on the commune, Kate outside

1765
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: of texting and talking and so that has been I

1766
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: think one of the great blessings because you know, we

1767
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: know that African Americans have been overtly effective in a

1768
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: negative manner due to COVID nineteen. But from a communication standpoint,

1769
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: like you said online, that's what I love hearing what

1770
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: you're saying, because by just changing your business model, you're

1771
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: not just selling in the Los Angeles County area. You

1772
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: now in some ways maybe internationally selling your brand now

1773
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: and getting orders because of the fact that you become

1774
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour store and they say, say you're

1775
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: getting checks in your mailbox. Is how you want to

1776
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: do business anyway. You want to be sleeping and making money,

1777
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: and that's the ultimate goal for your brands. Correct, absolutely, absolutely,

1778
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: And you know, just to be able to have a

1779
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 1: platform like a website. Can you imagine that, like somebody

1780
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: in New Jersey knows who we are here in in Inglewood, California.

1781
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Like that's just it's amazing to me that the word

1782
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: is out in that people are shopping across the country.

1783
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: In this morning, I'm actually here at my distributor because

1784
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: I have to pull an order. We gotta order and Dubai.

1785
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a national I said it. I said,

1786
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: I said the blessing, and the blessing came through. Come on, now,

1787
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: come on. I love it. I love it because I

1788
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: love talking to young entrepreneurs. I love talking to them

1789
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: realizing that the excitement you said, we have a delivery

1790
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: team now, because you you really see that it's not

1791
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: always you know, hand to hand comeback when you're doing business.

1792
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's about being able to not see your customers,

1793
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: but deliver a product online that they feel comfortable with ordering,

1794
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: because we know there are so many scams out there.

1795
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: We know sometimes I click, you don't know where to go.

1796
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: And then these big corporations like Amazon, they have a

1797
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: branded people respect, and so people tend to go there

1798
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: to buy their their services or by the product, and

1799
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: you can deliver the same product probably cheaper than they

1800
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 1: will and also get a fastest delivery pace to them

1801
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: as well. But the thing I really loved about just

1802
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: here and you talking the enthusiasm of the product is

1803
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: that you have a subscription box. Let's talk about that

1804
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: ninten ninty nine plus nine ninty nine shipping that's still available. Correct, yea,

1805
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: so we actually we've um we've shifted it we're still

1806
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: subscriptions are still available. Um, but you've just seen that

1807
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: there's a need for like essential products. So we've remedies

1808
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: because people are transitioning in this time, right, So a

1809
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: lot of people that usually wear wigs, we've extensions. We've

1810
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: seen that to the natural hair care um option because

1811
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: the cilants are closed, so we've shifted that too. This

1812
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: is all about evolving as times change, right. So we

1813
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: did have a subscription box, but now we have remedies online.

1814
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 1: So if you're transitioning and you you know you want

1815
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: to go natural, we have a transition remedy and we

1816
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: have as with yourself, so you can literally go online

1817
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: and pick what in your hair is going through and

1818
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: pick a remedy to deal with it. Yeah. I'm gonna

1819
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 1: just tell you about me a little bit here to

1820
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: my followers are female. I'm a nice guy. I'm a

1821
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: nice guy. I'm a baker. I sell positive. I my sister,

1822
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: I have six sisters. I just embrace empowering women. The

1823
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is that I have an email,

1824
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 1: a newsletter that goes out every Friday at nine am

1825
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: to ninty thousand fan club members. I like to put

1826
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I like to put an ad in there for you,

1827
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: not now that I shouldn't have used the word ad.

1828
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: A banner, a banner of marketing your brand. Click here

1829
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: by ship anywhere ninety thousand, So if you could, if

1830
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: you get an order from Chicago that might be Rashane,

1831
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: you get an order from Florida, that might be you

1832
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: get an order from Montana that might be Rashan. All

1833
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: of just telling you is that. That is why I

1834
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: feel I have to share my blessings. I hear your

1835
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: story ms. I have to be able to compel to

1836
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: say what can I do more for you? What can

1837
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: I do more? How could I help you keep winning?

1838
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Because if you win, that means people stay employed, that

1839
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: means that you become a visionary. And you understand what

1840
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you said, Hey, I'm trying to make beauty normal right now,

1841
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: beauty is ab normal, but people have extreme thoughts of

1842
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: what beauty is. I have a twenty two year old daughter.

1843
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: I need you to be our role model. That's why

1844
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready to support you. Wow, I'm blown away. Thank

1845
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: you so much for that. You don't even understand what

1846
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: that means because you don't have to do that, and

1847
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I really, really I can't even express how much I

1848
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I do. Thank you. You don't have

1849
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: to express. Just give me that banner. Like I said,

1850
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: every Friday at nine am, it goes out and it's

1851
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful letter I got. I have my PR firm

1852
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: send it to you so you can see how how

1853
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 1: it's put laid out. Uh. Is you know this week

1854
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: I got my girl, you're Linda Adams in there bors

1855
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: Cold Joe for his suits. I got Surgric and entertaining

1856
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: his hats. I got some names up in this. This

1857
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: news ms is Now this that's an okay, dope newsletter.

1858
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Not I love it. Thank you. Wow, that's amazing. I

1859
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 1: am blown away. Thank you. Well, all I know is

1860
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 1: that though I know if we run out of time,

1861
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring you back to talk about

1862
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: the sports bar and the juice bar, but this whole

1863
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: thing about beauty and you're being an entrepreneur. I just

1864
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: wanted to get that story out and also just say

1865
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: thank you for being who you are and I'm gonna

1866
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: support you and definitely get that information to If you

1867
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: can't get it out this, we'll get it to me

1868
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: next week and we'll get in there. But every Friday

1869
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: at nine am it goes off the East Coast time

1870
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: it goes out, and I'll be more than happy to

1871
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: support your brand. Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you

1872
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: for this platform. Thank you for helping getting the word

1873
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 1: out of in l A and medicine. Just allowing me

1874
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: to talk about who I am well, Dubaye dubaye not

1875
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: But goodbye, good bye New Jersey. We're gonna do it

1876
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: all over. We're gonna get some. We're gonna get some.

1877
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Get to get Jamaica. We gotta get South Africa, we

1878
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: gotta get Australia. I'm popular Ireland. Can you believe that

1879
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm popular. I'm popular in New Zealand. It's amazing. People

1880
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: are listening to this show all over the world and

1881
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: we want to start buying your product all over the world.

1882
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling on Money Making Conversations. I appreciate you. No,

1883
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you again. Awesome. If you want

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