Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us another week. We're so excited to be back.
Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Susan?
Speaker 2: Much better? All the antibiotics are done. I'm freezing here,
Speaker 2: but it's a good day.
Speaker 3: You know, Susan and I were both sick.
Speaker 1: I was sick for literally over a month, and we
Speaker 1: both single handedly kept pharmaceutical companies in business. And I
Speaker 1: personally just want to thank the creators of z Pax
Speaker 1: personally thank them and steroids.
Speaker 2: I went on steroids till.
Speaker 3: It has been.
Speaker 1: It has been a brutal, brutal winner for sickness.
Speaker 2: But better now we have positive things coming up. First
Speaker 2: of all, I hope you guys that are listening have
Speaker 2: checked out some of our latest episodes. We've been having
Speaker 2: a lot of fun in this new year, answering your
Speaker 2: question and chatting with all your Bachelor Nation fans.
Speaker 1: And you know what, don't you think now that it's
Speaker 1: a new year, and you know we're well into the
Speaker 1: new year. Now people aren't drinking because you know, dry January,
Speaker 1: genuine and you know, fabulous fair February whatever they do
Speaker 1: in February, so they have time to listen to us, right, but.
Speaker 2: How about our special guests today? You want to introduce here, Kathy.
Speaker 1: They're definitely going to be listening to this one. We
Speaker 1: have one of the heart throbs of Jones season on
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelorette. Please help us welcome Jonathan.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jonathan, how are you?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 5: How are you? My gosh? Heartthrow are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: You're looking good? Jonathan?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Holidays and everything went well.
Speaker 4: Everything went well, like no snow on the ground here
Speaker 4: in the Midwest, so just nice.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So wait you are in. Tell me where
Speaker 1: you are now and where you live and where you're from.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm writing a book here.
Speaker 5: I need the details, all right, So you want the details? Okay.
Speaker 4: So I'm originally from Kansas City, Missouri, so that's kind
Speaker 4: of neighborhood to which tak Kansas where.
Speaker 2: Chalk is from Chalk is, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: I relocated up here to Omaha, Nebraska, where I work currently.
Speaker 2: Is that why you relocate it? Because of work?
Speaker 4: I relocated? Well, well, so we're going back Kansas City.
Speaker 4: I moved up here in Omaha back in eighty nine
Speaker 4: to like spread my wings as a youngster, and so
Speaker 4: my mom had relocated up here a few years after
Speaker 4: I had graduated high school, and so I kind of
Speaker 4: was helping her out with her move and all that
Speaker 4: other stuff. Next thing, you know, life happens, and I
Speaker 4: ended up in Omaha, and so I work in Omaha, Nebraska,
Speaker 4: and I'm currently living in Oakland, Iowa, which is about
Speaker 4: a forty minute commute east of Omaha.
Speaker 5: Do you like it up there in Oakland? Yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean I like it.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a small community of about maybe fifteen
Speaker 4: hundred people, so it's a small, quiet area.
Speaker 3: Not very diverse though, But say you're not a big
Speaker 3: city guy.
Speaker 5: No, I am a big city guy. I'm from Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm asking.
Speaker 4: I'm saying you, well, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: The only reason I'm in Oakland, Iowa is my kids
Speaker 4: are there. You know. You know, my my daughter is
Speaker 4: going to be a senior in high school next year,
Speaker 4: and then my son will be a freshman in high
Speaker 4: school next year. So I'm there for at least another
Speaker 4: five years.
Speaker 1: Your kids are young, how is that racing teenagers?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Everything, everything is good, I mean, my you know, when
Speaker 4: I hear about people having trouble with teenagers, is I
Speaker 4: don't understand because both of my kids are A plus students.
Speaker 4: They're doing well in athletics and all their scholastics and
Speaker 4: their friendships and so it's all good.
Speaker 1: So so you know, I was an educational consultant for
Speaker 1: thirty five years. Oh okay, so you can call me
Speaker 1: when it comes time for college.
Speaker 5: Okay, perfect.
Speaker 4: I would love to do that, you know, because you know,
Speaker 4: being a you know, being in Oakland, Iowa, and being
Speaker 4: a single dad, and some times, you know, I may
Speaker 4: have some issues the questions that you know, i'd need
Speaker 4: your advice.
Speaker 2: What any of us we were all moms?
Speaker 5: What year?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how old is your oldest child?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Age?
Speaker 1: School?
Speaker 4: Okay, my daughter is sixteen and so she's a junior
Speaker 4: in high school. Now big time.
Speaker 3: You're already in the college thing now then? Or should be?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're pretty close. She's already actually starting to look
Speaker 5: at prospects for colleges for volleyball. She's a really good
Speaker 5: volleyball player. And I don't think I need this.
Speaker 1: Is she being is she being recruited?
Speaker 3: Is she being recruited.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, she's been recruited.
Speaker 4: I think she did a summer camp about a year
Speaker 4: or two years ago at the University of Iowa. That's
Speaker 4: where her mother is an alumni. And uh so she's
Speaker 4: a big Hawkeye fan. So she went to this Hawkeye
Speaker 4: summer camp and she actually got approached by the head
Speaker 4: coach of Iowa.
Speaker 1: Well, offline, feel free, Jonathan to reach out to me.
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to, you know, share my welcome.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're talking about your daughters. I've got some
Speaker 2: juicy questions though. I hear that maybe you're in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Is this true?
Speaker 5: Oh? Did you hear that?
Speaker 1: What I want to know is is this a new relationship?
Speaker 3: Did you know this person before?
Speaker 1: Maybe had you met her at a previous time in
Speaker 1: your life?
Speaker 3: You know what the scoop?
Speaker 4: Okay, the scoop is Okay, so we're Gosh, on the seventeenth,
Speaker 4: it'll be six months. So wow, So here's here's the scoop.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: I love a man that knows the little anniversary.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know, I'm close.
Speaker 1: And may I say, since everything on the internet is true,
Speaker 1: she's beautiful, but carry out.
Speaker 5: We want the d well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that she definitely stole my heart, that's
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 5: So so here's the scoop.
Speaker 4: So, so you know, Joan didn't didn't keep me along
Speaker 4: for the hometown visits, and so I came back to
Speaker 4: Iowa with my tail between my legs, so to speak.
Speaker 4: And you know, I started this whole journey looking for love,
Speaker 4: you know, And so when I came back, you know,
Speaker 4: I was a little dejected, and so I kind of
Speaker 4: I eventually went back online and I was just like
Speaker 4: swiping and looking and and then I came across Michelle's
Speaker 4: pictures and she eventually contacted me. We connected and uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's been a beautiful pigure.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, all right. Which which site were you on?
Speaker 5: Let's just say I was stung by a bee a Bumble.
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 1: The founder of Bumble is a woman and she lives
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. Her husband started and I want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one, maybe Hinge and she was like,
Speaker 1: why shouldn't women get a post?
Speaker 3: And so she started Bumble.
Speaker 2: That is true every time I was ever on Bumble,
Speaker 2: and as well, Hinge. Everybody's from New York. There was
Speaker 2: nobody local. Is she local?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: She you know, yeah, I mean you you two were
Speaker 4: in Saucelito not too long ago, right she uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: so she's from sauce Alito.
Speaker 2: That's right. I got the message from the Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what happened.
Speaker 4: What what happened is then when I when I was
Speaker 4: on bumble and I saw our picture, I think something
Speaker 4: about her location or whatever. I think she was in
Speaker 4: the Midwest. And so that's how I connected with her.
Speaker 4: And then she discovered that I wasn't from Oakland, California,
Speaker 4: but I was in Oakland, Iowa. Yeah, and so she
Speaker 4: was originally born in Ames, Iowa. And so so that's
Speaker 4: how we kind of connected. I was like, there's that
Speaker 4: small possibility.
Speaker 3: Is one of you moving to the others neighborhood.
Speaker 5: You're moving fast, aren't you anywhere?
Speaker 2: Your kids girls and son? Did they?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: I got this five year six year window, like when
Speaker 4: my son graduates and both my kids are kind of
Speaker 4: off doing their thing. It's like I got this. You
Speaker 4: know this, uh, this the this chapter to turn and
Speaker 4: you know what I love. I'm loving California, but man,
Speaker 4: it's expensive.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it is being you're happy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that. I
Speaker 4: truly am happy. I mean, she's a she's a wonderful woman.
Speaker 4: She has a wonderful spirit. She has a playfulness that
Speaker 4: that I think we both connect on and we just
Speaker 4: have fun with each other.
Speaker 5: And that's why I think that's what I love about it.
Speaker 3: Since I'm sitting here speechless, because I.
Speaker 2: Was going to ask him, would you go to Paradise?
Speaker 2: I guess you're out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was going to ask if you would go to
Speaker 1: a Bachelor Golden Bachelor in Paradise if they had one,
Speaker 1: You're out.
Speaker 5: They I would go to Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 1: You can't bring her, You can't bring the show?
Speaker 5: Why no, No, I didn't say why I said.
Speaker 4: I said, I, you know, if they had me on
Speaker 4: a as a cameo to like, you know, give the
Speaker 4: guy some advice on whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well okay, so I haven't.
Speaker 1: I'm really serious and very happy that you're happy. It's
Speaker 1: with you know, everyone who finds love. I'm rooting for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, But I just want to get back
Speaker 1: to Jones show for a minute. Your dancing skills at
Speaker 1: the at the uh strip you call whatever you want,
Speaker 1: like the fundraiser, Yeah, the fund raiser.
Speaker 3: Are you telling me?
Speaker 1: Are you you didn't like you previous experience, Jonathan? Do
Speaker 1: you want to do you want to fess up on that?
Speaker 1: Come on, you had to have been a dancer.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, like professionally.
Speaker 2: No, you just can dance. You got lose.
Speaker 5: I can dance. You give me, you give me a beat.
Speaker 4: My body, my body just does things that goes to
Speaker 4: the beat, and.
Speaker 2: So look good. You had the world watching.
Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you, thank you. Yeah you know I did.
Speaker 5: I did say.
Speaker 4: I did say on the man tell all that I
Speaker 4: did audition once for a mail strip, ben you. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: it was almost like the flash dance thing. I walked
Speaker 4: in with this long Australian writing coat, my high black
Speaker 4: boots up to my knees, my boom box, and I
Speaker 4: played like Prance or something like that.
Speaker 5: But I didn't do it. So that was you.
Speaker 3: You were a real shy guy growing up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you know, actually I was.
Speaker 4: I mean I grew up in a small basically all
Speaker 4: small Catholic schools growing up, and I was the only
Speaker 4: student of color up until, like I think my junior
Speaker 4: year or whatever, And so I had this big afro,
Speaker 4: I had these big thick glasses. I wore corduroy bill
Speaker 4: bottom pants.
Speaker 2: That was the style.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, so I was.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say I was a nerd, but
Speaker 4: you know what, I kind of felt a little bit
Speaker 4: out of place, you know, being amongst you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was kind of shy, but I got along well
Speaker 4: with everybody.
Speaker 2: Did you feel out of place at all when you
Speaker 2: got to the mansion with all the men?
Speaker 5: Oh no, not really.
Speaker 4: I mean the only thing, the only thing that I
Speaker 4: felt maybe out of place with the men is like,
Speaker 4: you know what, you know, what is this? What has
Speaker 4: this guy done for a living? What is he retired?
Speaker 4: Does he own a business? Does he on a restaurant?
Speaker 4: Does he own a yacht?
Speaker 3: Is that the male competitive deal?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Am I measure up? Is that what?
Speaker 2: That's all?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so?
Speaker 4: But you know what also too, I mean growing up
Speaker 4: as kid, I had like I had low self esteem issues,
Speaker 4: and so you know there's always that a certain sense
Speaker 4: of uh, evaluating my inner work with someone else's outward network.
Speaker 3: You know, I just I just I get that that
Speaker 3: is so smart?
Speaker 1: What you just said, but it's also interesting as I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know you. I've just getting to
Speaker 1: know you now. But what's interesting is you project you're
Speaker 1: a very handsome man. You know that you're you're you
Speaker 1: seem to be a very kind man, and you project
Speaker 1: this confidence. And it's just a reminder to everyone that
Speaker 1: we all have a history, right, we all have the
Speaker 1: fact that you said that you know you you were
Speaker 1: not confident. That it's just interesting to me. I'm just
Speaker 1: it's just I'm just commenting that, uh, you wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: would never think that about you based on the man
Speaker 1: you are today are now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh well, thank you.
Speaker 4: I would just I would just say it's just years
Speaker 4: of experience of growing into it.
Speaker 5: I guess, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to get to know you even more. Wow, and.
Speaker 3: The fans, so.
Speaker 1: We you're going to help us also give a little
Speaker 1: bit of advice to some folks in Bachelor Nation. But
Speaker 1: I first want to ask you, and we've asked many
Speaker 1: of the Golden Men this question.
Speaker 3: Okay, what does it mean to you? And Jonathan? How
Speaker 3: old are you? Sixty two?
Speaker 5: Sixty sixty two?
Speaker 1: Yes, sixty two, Okay, so I'm not sixty two I'm
Speaker 1: seventy one and Susan sixty seven. What does it mean
Speaker 1: to you to be in your golden years?
Speaker 4: Gosh, you know what, For me, it's like I really
Speaker 4: you know, for me, I think that's just the title.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't feel like I'm golden, you know.
Speaker 4: I feel I feel like my spirit is so youthful.
Speaker 4: From inside of myself, I'm grateful that I'm that my
Speaker 4: physical body is healthy, and I still want to be active.
Speaker 4: I still want to lift weights, I still want to
Speaker 4: like do cardio. But from the inner spirit, I mean,
Speaker 4: I would actually say that the way I feel inside,
Speaker 4: I would say I probably feel like I'm in my
Speaker 4: early forties is the way I feel.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I feel so since and I talk
Speaker 1: about this a lot. We feel the same way. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't date guys my own age. They don't have
Speaker 1: enough energy.
Speaker 2: The attitude about energy and energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: But don't you feel like at the stage in your
Speaker 2: sixties you've been through so much and you're more knowledgeable
Speaker 2: and you know what to sweat out, what not to
Speaker 2: sweat out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Not to It's kind of one of those things that's
Speaker 4: like you know, I look at my life in retrospect, like,
Speaker 4: you know, if I would have known what I know
Speaker 4: is nothing, I probably would have made some changes. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, especially okay, So for me, like in the
Speaker 4: golden years, the one thing I can probably relate to
Speaker 4: is that, you know what, there's a lot of like
Speaker 4: financial knowledge that I have required later in my life.
Speaker 4: But I wish I would have known younger in my.
Speaker 3: Life, like what give me? Tell me?
Speaker 1: What give me what?
Speaker 4: I didn't have that family structure, So like what if
Speaker 4: I had a family or a father, which I grew
Speaker 4: up without a father or a father that was like,
Speaker 4: you know, said, hey, you know what, son, is very
Speaker 4: important that you save early and teach me the principle
Speaker 4: of compound, of compounding, and because right now it's like,
Speaker 4: you know what if I would have saved like at
Speaker 4: sixteen years old or seventeen years old, even whether I
Speaker 4: was working at you know, a fast food restaurant or whatever,
Speaker 4: just want to yeah, yeah, just making a small little
Speaker 4: contribution over these years and multiplying with the compound, I'd
Speaker 4: be in a way better off shape than I am.
Speaker 5: Round.
Speaker 3: Are you teaching your children, are you teaching your children.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I actually have learned those principles through work here,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, it's important for me
Speaker 4: as a father, since I didn't get that from a father,
Speaker 4: to pass that on to my children, even though that
Speaker 4: they're young. At least the seeds plant. They may forget
Speaker 4: about it for now, but at least that'll be my
Speaker 4: responsibility that when they are starting to work to kind
Speaker 4: of red to reiterate that principle to them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish that. You know, I was in education
Speaker 3: for a lot of years.
Speaker 1: I wish that that was required teaching kids need to
Speaker 1: learn the principles of money and just learn investing to check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know what I and I think I think
Speaker 4: in our school district at Riverside UH in Oakland, I
Speaker 4: think they are that's part of the curriculum, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Well, they're they're getting wiser as well. So let me
Speaker 2: ask you. You said your holidays were good. Is there
Speaker 2: anything I don't know if you're a New Year's resolution guy,
Speaker 2: or anything you want to be more aware of or
Speaker 2: something you would like to accomplish in this twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Gosh, you know what I mean, there's there's there's new
Speaker 4: goals and objectives I think that are that are starting
Speaker 4: to come to fruition in my mind. And but I
Speaker 4: think as far as like the New Year's resolution that
Speaker 4: I post on my Instagram was that it came to
Speaker 4: me is that I want to invest in people that
Speaker 4: are going to invest in me. It's like you know
Speaker 4: what relationships, friendships. You know, over the past years we
Speaker 4: talked about experiences that is that people say they're going
Speaker 4: to do something and I count on it, I rely
Speaker 4: on it, and then it doesn't happen. That's and uh,
Speaker 4: I have confidence in myself and what I can do.
Speaker 4: If I don't know how to do something, I'm believing me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna learn how to do it. But you're gonna
Speaker 4: have my You're gonna have one hundred percent Jonathan, You're
Speaker 4: gonna have my loyalty, You're gonna have my commitment. And
Speaker 4: so as I'm sixty two, I want to be with
Speaker 4: people or get involved with people that are going to
Speaker 4: invest in me because you know what, they're going to
Speaker 4: get that investment back, you know.
Speaker 1: So what do you do for a living? I'm curious.
Speaker 4: I work for a company that's basically in a data
Speaker 4: analytics and consulting business, and so and so I work
Speaker 4: in the what we call our document services support, uh,
Speaker 4: kind of a logistics you know. We do a lot
Speaker 4: of shipping on materials, curriculating things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, So I wanted Susan to ask
Speaker 1: this question, but she's not going to. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask it because Susan is divorced and I'm not.
Speaker 1: But I'm very curious about this answer. Okay, So you
Speaker 1: did open up about your divorce on the show. What
Speaker 1: was it like navigating that while also being a parent
Speaker 1: and and you know, finding love again. What advice do
Speaker 1: you have for parents on how to navigate a life
Speaker 1: transition like that? Because my parents were divorced when I
Speaker 1: was six, but my husband passed away. But I'm very
Speaker 1: curious you're answering.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Yeah, that's a very good question. Thank you
Speaker 4: for asking that because it helps validate or gives closure too.
Speaker 4: From the very beginning when I thought about being on
Speaker 4: the show, that was one of my main concerns. Was
Speaker 4: I know that's going to come up, and how am
Speaker 4: I going to address it? You know, had I had
Speaker 4: to be very mindful and consider it of the divorce,
Speaker 4: of my marriage, of my ex wife, and of my
Speaker 4: children if they happened to see the show, or some
Speaker 4: of their kids or parents see the show. So I
Speaker 4: had to be careful about how I got that out
Speaker 4: and and I wanted to do it in a way
Speaker 4: that was going to be anyone enough that people could
Speaker 4: understand what happened without going into any other nasty details.
Speaker 4: It really wasn't It really wasn't a nasty divorce other
Speaker 4: than it just caught me blindsided, right, And there were
Speaker 4: some questions that, you know, I read some comments and said, well,
Speaker 4: how could be blindsided? Sure you could have seen it coming,
Speaker 4: but you know what, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't don't always coming right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like, you know, I I tried to
Speaker 4: look at it from different angles, but it's like, you
Speaker 4: know what, Yeah, I was blindsided. And so I had
Speaker 4: to be very careful and mindful about that how I
Speaker 4: how I would tell Joan that and just to let
Speaker 4: you know, when I when I said that that part
Speaker 4: of my life about the divorce with Joan, I wanted
Speaker 4: her to kind of get the gist of what it
Speaker 4: was about, but for her to see how it affected
Speaker 4: me because you know, just even talking to it about
Speaker 4: it now just kind of makes me a little emotional.
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to upset you. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not upset at all, but leave me. I am
Speaker 4: one hundred percent heeled, just like you know what, but
Speaker 4: just like you know when you talk about things and
Speaker 4: things happen and I and I was committed to the
Speaker 4: show that to be vulnerable and let those things come
Speaker 4: out as they happen.
Speaker 2: Do you think the show helped you be who you
Speaker 2: are right now?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know, because the fact that I got
Speaker 4: selected for the show is like just it's amazing.
Speaker 5: It's a blessing. It's a blessing, and so I believe
Speaker 5: things happen for a reason.
Speaker 4: And to think that I got picked out of the
Speaker 4: thousands of men in just my vicinity and there's think
Speaker 4: about the whole country, is such a privilege and such
Speaker 4: a blessing that that there has to be something on
Speaker 4: a very spiritual.
Speaker 5: Message or.
Speaker 2: Purpose that I was and sharing telling other men, as
Speaker 2: we tell women, don't ever give up. There's so many
Speaker 2: opportunities still.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what they're going to be, but absolutely Yeah,
Speaker 5: it took me.
Speaker 4: It took me a while to get over my divorce,
Speaker 4: and it took me a while to go out on
Speaker 4: some dates, and it took me a while to But.
Speaker 3: Look where you are now. I always say look forward.
Speaker 3: I try, as I've said. You know, I've had some
Speaker 3: horrible things in my life. You have Jonathan, so is Susan.
Speaker 1: We all have.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: You don't get to the age that we are without
Speaker 1: having some incredible triumphs and some incredible failures and sadness
Speaker 1: in our lives. It's just that's what it is. But
Speaker 1: I prefer and it sounds like you do, and I
Speaker 1: know Susan does, and maybe it's our age. We focus
Speaker 1: on the positive things. We take the lessons from the hardships,
Speaker 1: but we focus on the good.
Speaker 2: You don't forget them, but you learn from things. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all about being happy right now. Yeah, and sharing
Speaker 2: a smile and kindness.
Speaker 1: Well, Jonathan tell us to make sure his kids get
Speaker 1: their homework done, so you know he's got that all right.
Speaker 1: Since you seem Jonathan to be that's a wise not
Speaker 1: a wise guy, but a wise man.
Speaker 5: At the philadelphia'll show you was a wise guy.
Speaker 3: Look at him. Going from Boston. We'll talk about Boston.
Speaker 3: We'll go to some patties, get.
Speaker 5: Some I want to get some clum chowder in Boston.
Speaker 2: I want Kathy, you skipped over the line there.
Speaker 3: Did you see it? What I think?
Speaker 2: Katy?
Speaker 1: And I am like, what, totally I saw it? Totally skipped.
Speaker 1: One of the questions Jonathan was who do you think
Speaker 1: would be a good match for us?
Speaker 3: You know, who would you match me up with? Who
Speaker 3: would you match Susan up?
Speaker 1: But since most of y'all, as we say in Texas,
Speaker 1: are already taken, we just thought we'd skip on past
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of guys are
Speaker 5: like fell into relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's all right, they're all you know that.
Speaker 1: That speaks well of you guys.
Speaker 2: We were saying earlier that women are on social media,
Speaker 2: on Instagram, on everything, and they're not shy anymore. They
Speaker 2: reach out to you guys, and men are not. The
Speaker 2: men don't even know how to get on.
Speaker 1: And they're not on it and they're shy. Okay, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on with advice because that's where we are.
Speaker 1: So Michael, you just we're gonna Rea. I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: a question. You're just gonna tell us what you think,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna make Michael's get some advice. Okay,
Speaker 1: Michael asked, Hi, Kathy and Susan. My sister loves your podcast.
Speaker 1: I hear her listening to it all the time. You
Speaker 1: guys give really good advice. So I thought i'd reach
Speaker 1: out to see if you can help me. I really
Speaker 1: like this girl that is in the sorority. My frat
Speaker 1: always mixes with I'm not the best with girls, so
Speaker 1: I have no idea how to approach her. We've only
Speaker 1: met in passing a few times, so I don't know
Speaker 1: how to approach her. What do you think I should do?
Speaker 1: I want to ask her on a date, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to freak her out. What says you, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: how does he get this? How does he lock down
Speaker 1: the steel?
Speaker 5: Okay? So this is my advice. This is something that
Speaker 5: I wish I would have been able to do as
Speaker 5: a young man.
Speaker 4: Okay, because I get I get very I don't want
Speaker 4: to say envious of jealous of guys who are like
Speaker 4: assertive and you know they just if they see a
Speaker 4: woman that they like you, just so my advice. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I'm getting to the point. My advice is for
Speaker 4: this young man is just be take a take a
Speaker 4: take a big deep breath, know what he wants to ask,
Speaker 4: and then just find that right moment and then just
Speaker 4: say can I can I talk with you for a second,
Speaker 4: and and then ask her out.
Speaker 5: That's that's what I would suggest.
Speaker 2: The worst that could happen is she says no, I
Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be a freak out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is insecurity, I think absolutely feeling like she's going
Speaker 2: to freak out. Just say hey, I was thinking would
Speaker 2: you like to get together? Sometimes like real not you lot.
Speaker 1: You know, Michael, I will say to you. My advice
Speaker 1: is very similar to Jonathan's and Susan's. The fact is,
Speaker 1: you know, take good risks in your life. Asking this
Speaker 1: girl out is a good risk. What is the worst
Speaker 1: that can happen? The answer could be no, you move on.
Speaker 1: A bad risk is like jumping off the Empire State Building.
Speaker 1: You know, don't do that to get a date with her.
Speaker 1: But you know you don't want to spend your time
Speaker 1: saying I wish you don't want to get.
Speaker 2: To our end regret and say I wish I ask I.
Speaker 1: Wish I had asked her out. I wished I had
Speaker 1: booked because what's the worst thing? You pick yourself up
Speaker 1: and say, okay.
Speaker 2: We say that now because we're here. But I remember
Speaker 2: feeling that way being that young, of course, But Michael,
Speaker 2: you're as intimidated, you're you know, get over that, be
Speaker 2: a man and just okay.
Speaker 1: But she could do real quickly. Jonathan, what would you say, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Michelle reached out. I can't remember you said,
Speaker 1: Michelle reached out to you?
Speaker 3: Or you reach out?
Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, so you know you know how bumble works.
Speaker 4: Is that ice wife? Because I see, I saw.
Speaker 2: The women do the work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, until until she responds. Then that then I know
Speaker 5: that she's interested.
Speaker 3: So so no, I know, wipe.
Speaker 1: But the point is once you once you swiped that
Speaker 1: you were interested and she reached out to you, then
Speaker 1: how did you feel about that being you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's different, Like you knew she was interested because she swiped.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what from from the moment her her
Speaker 4: first words to me was it just it just made
Speaker 4: my heart warm.
Speaker 3: And Jonathan, what were those words?
Speaker 5: Something about you know? Something about she she said something
Speaker 5: about my eyes.
Speaker 4: She could tell something about my eyes was was warm
Speaker 4: and kind or something along along that line. And so
Speaker 4: that that let me know that she just wasn't looking
Speaker 4: at you know. We made an eye connection, you know,
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, the eyes are like, you know,
Speaker 4: connection to your.
Speaker 5: Soul, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think eyes and we you know, we've interviewed
Speaker 1: a lot of the eyes from your season, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm not I think it's almost universal that we've
Speaker 1: all said it's a smile and it's the eyes. That's
Speaker 1: where I see all the time when people say, what's
Speaker 1: the first thing you noticed about somebody, it's their eyes
Speaker 1: and their smile.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 4: And that that's why I chose the blindfold from my
Speaker 4: uh my entrance out of the limo, because I remember
Speaker 4: I wanted the eye contact between Joan and I, that
Speaker 4: that first initial eye contact to see if there was
Speaker 4: going to be something there, you know, so what and
Speaker 4: and that's with with with Michelle's pictures, That's what I saw,
Speaker 4: was that eye contact.
Speaker 3: With Joan. Did you when did you apply for the show?
Speaker 3: Did you apply because it was Joan or I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was gonna I didn't know it
Speaker 5: was going to be Joan.
Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping it was going to be
Speaker 4: Joan because I had seen The Golden Bachelor and I
Speaker 4: saw that when she had to leave and why she
Speaker 4: had to leave, and.
Speaker 1: He didn't want us.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 2: That's thanks Jonathan.
Speaker 3: Wrap this episode of.
Speaker 2: Seriously, though, before we have to go, we've got to
Speaker 2: play this little game, and this is about everybody else getting.
Speaker 1: To know you.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, We're going to
Speaker 2: do easy little questions and everybody else listening will get
Speaker 2: to know you a little bit better. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready, Okay, We're gonna there's ten questions.
Speaker 2: Who was your favorite band or musician where you were
Speaker 2: in high school?
Speaker 5: Michael Jackson?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. What's your favorite way to unwind after
Speaker 1: a long day?
Speaker 4: Kick off my shoes, sit on my couch, and have
Speaker 4: my dog jump on my chest and give me some
Speaker 4: some licks on.
Speaker 5: The top of my head.
Speaker 3: What kind of dog? What kind of dog?
Speaker 5: Charlie is a beshng Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: What is your favorite memory that you have when you
Speaker 2: were a teenager?
Speaker 4: My favorite memory when you were a teenager. Okay, I
Speaker 4: remember my favorite memory was I was sitting outside of
Speaker 4: high school. I had dropped out of the basketball tryal program,
Speaker 4: and my high school basketball coach came up to me
Speaker 4: one on one and basically I almost had like a
Speaker 4: father's son conversation with me and said, hey, you know what,
Speaker 4: You've got some potential, You got talent. If you would
Speaker 4: have stuck with it, you'd be a great basketball player.
Speaker 4: And he is like one of my mentors. He's my
Speaker 4: almost my father. We still have a relationship to this day.
Speaker 1: Lovely, how Jonathan, how tall are you?
Speaker 5: Six ' four? So you met?
Speaker 3: You would have made a great point guard.
Speaker 5: If I had dribbling skills.
Speaker 3: There is that what what would the title of your
Speaker 3: autobiography be?
Speaker 5: Title my autobiography?
Speaker 2: It makes you think, doesn't that that question?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, I kind of a go to
Speaker 5: me myself.
Speaker 2: And I okay, okay, if you were strict, we asked
Speaker 2: everybody from the show by the way, ye a question
Speaker 2: if you're stranded on a desert island and you could
Speaker 2: only bring three guys from the mansion, who would they be?
Speaker 3: Well, wait, to be fair, Susan, we've also said you're
Speaker 3: taking Susan and me with you.
Speaker 2: Regardless, who are the other three guys?
Speaker 5: The other three guys? Okay, I would have to say Gary,
Speaker 5: because you know Gary, I just love his laugh. I mean,
Speaker 5: I got I can.
Speaker 3: Hear like, oh look at you, imitatum.
Speaker 5: That's perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love Gary Keith bless a lot too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'd love to bring Jordan because he's like has
Speaker 4: that comic relief. And I'd have to bring Jack, you know, Jack, Jack, Jordan,
Speaker 4: and Gary.
Speaker 3: Do you see them all? Can you get together with
Speaker 3: these guys?
Speaker 4: I haven't I have and so far, you know, but
Speaker 4: we we're kind of out the group text kind of
Speaker 4: thing going on, and so yeah, we're kind of making
Speaker 4: plans for that.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: If you could bring back any fashion trend or old slang,
Speaker 1: what would it be, and please don't say long basketball shorts?
Speaker 3: Go ahead? What would you bring back?
Speaker 5: Gosh? You know what? I would probably bring back bell
Speaker 5: bell bottom and platform shoes.
Speaker 2: Like the platform. I wear the Bell platform comfortable.
Speaker 5: Keep thinking about John Travolta, you know, you know, do.
Speaker 2: You have any fashion regrets from your younger days? Oh?
Speaker 5: Regrets? Gosh?
Speaker 2: I mean that's not even a good question. What would
Speaker 2: you regret you were wearing it because it was in style.
Speaker 2: We're going to skip that.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: What's one thing about you now that you think would
Speaker 2: surprise your younger.
Speaker 3: Self to that for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not about your hair, that you are as confident
Speaker 3: as you are now.
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's very good. Absolutely, yep.
Speaker 1: I would agree with it, just because I heard what
Speaker 1: he said about his younger life. Now he wants his hair.
Speaker 1: What you gonna say that he'ld be bald?
Speaker 4: Despot on? Yeah, that I would be bald? Yeah, because
Speaker 4: you know, well, yeah, this this happened. I never thought
Speaker 4: that this happened by accident?
Speaker 5: Can happen? This happened by accident?
Speaker 3: What was the accent?
Speaker 4: That I was on a date with the girl and
Speaker 4: was drinking one or two or maybe three bottles of
Speaker 4: wine and she looked at me with a little cross eyes.
Speaker 5: She goes, you would look really hot bald. Can I
Speaker 5: did I cut? Can I cut your hair?
Speaker 4: So she cut my hair and the next morning I
Speaker 4: looked in the mirror, thinking I had like this really
Speaker 4: cool haircut shaved, and it was just patches of hair.
Speaker 5: So I had no recourse except.
Speaker 2: Just to shave it all out, and you've been that
Speaker 2: way ever since.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then when I went to work, everyone said,
Speaker 5: j R. What did you do to your head? We
Speaker 5: love it? So I've been wearing it ever since.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's his way. Can I just say I love you.
Speaker 1: I want to get to know you better. You're a
Speaker 1: super nice guy. But I am going to question your judgment.
Speaker 1: She and you let anyone do anything to you after
Speaker 1: three bottles of why?
Speaker 3: What the hell were you thinking?
Speaker 1: Well, he was drinking with so he didn't have good
Speaker 1: He didn't say that.
Speaker 3: He said. You didn't say that, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: It's like you know, you said she had three bottles
Speaker 1: of why? Oh no, no, we had say you were
Speaker 1: drunk too. All right, okay, you're off the hood, all right.
Speaker 1: What's something you've always wanted to do but you haven't
Speaker 1: done yet? And if what and whatever it is, why
Speaker 1: haven't she done?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, there's a number of things, but I think
Speaker 4: one of the things is go up a hot air balloon.
Speaker 4: I've always wanted to do that.
Speaker 3: I want to I want to jump out of an
Speaker 3: airplane in a parachute.
Speaker 5: I would never do that.
Speaker 1: I would do it in tandem. If I did it with,
Speaker 1: you know, a train person, I would really a trainer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: They asked me that when I was interviewing on the
Speaker 1: show what's something you want to do? I said, I
Speaker 1: want to jump up. I'm scared to death to do it,
Speaker 1: but I would do it if I was with an instructor,
Speaker 1: you know instructor, or you're the looking guy who wanted
Speaker 1: to date with me, I'd do with that.
Speaker 5: Well there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think if
Speaker 4: I went, if I went in the plane and flew
Speaker 4: up and got to the point where its point time
Speaker 4: to jump.
Speaker 1: Push me, just push me out right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what you'd have to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you like roller coasters?
Speaker 5: I do like roller coasters now, but as a kid
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I remember my first, my first major roller coaster, going
Speaker 4: up the you know, going up the incline.
Speaker 5: I could hear the chains chaining and.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh god, I hope it doesn't fall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can almost get into the top. I
Speaker 5: got so scared, I started screaming, Mama.
Speaker 2: Get me up here. What more, what piece of advice
Speaker 2: or bad that you received and you've never.
Speaker 5: Forgotten advice that I received, good or bad, good.
Speaker 2: Or bad advice, but that you never forgot. Somebody said
Speaker 2: something to you at one time, you never forgot it.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't let a due woman shave your head next time.
Speaker 2: That was new advice.
Speaker 5: But right, Oh my gosh, that's that's hard.
Speaker 3: I think it is hard, Kathy.
Speaker 2: Do you know any that somebody gave you.
Speaker 3: The best piece that I ever got that I've never
Speaker 3: forgotten was.
Speaker 1: When you're nervous about doing something new and you're walking
Speaker 1: into a place where it's all new people. Whatever that
Speaker 1: event is, it's okay because everyone's feeling the way you are,
Speaker 1: So walk in feel confident because everyone's feeling the same
Speaker 1: way you are.
Speaker 5: That's good, that's good. Okay. I just remember one.
Speaker 4: I just remember one, and it was it was it
Speaker 4: was far as like I think, like, you know, I
Speaker 4: did some acting at one point on stage whatever, like
Speaker 4: you know, community theater. Remember or director told me once
Speaker 4: is like if you if you forget your line or
Speaker 4: if you forget your your movement, don't ever stop.
Speaker 5: Just keep just keep moving and don't don't let them
Speaker 5: see what you know is wrong.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing like, don't let them see the Fair.
Speaker 5: Do you sing, Jonathan, I have my I have my
Speaker 5: moments where I tried to well know.
Speaker 3: You said theater. Did you do musical theater?
Speaker 4: I've done you. I've done a couple of music theaters.
Speaker 4: The last one I did was I did rag Time
Speaker 4: and so I did a little ensemble singing, so that
Speaker 4: was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: What what's your voice? Do you baritone tenor what are
Speaker 1: you baritone? Baronet?
Speaker 4: You know, as as I got older, my voice is
Speaker 4: got raspier, or some people will say that I have
Speaker 4: like this kind of a hairy Belafonte kind of a sound,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it sometimes it's it's frustrating because I want
Speaker 4: to articulate clear, Yeah, I hear this raspiness and like
Speaker 4: sometimes it feels like I'm forcing my voice out.
Speaker 3: So damn, this guy's talented.
Speaker 2: He's got it all got it.
Speaker 3: You are an amazing guy. I was so good getting
Speaker 3: to know you a little.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was our pleasure, haven't you really?
Speaker 2: I can dance and I can.
Speaker 3: Sing, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm really sorry that we missed you in sas Alito,
Speaker 4: because you want to that corner where you were is
Speaker 4: literally right up the street, so I.
Speaker 2: Can she had sent me an email and I just
Speaker 2: now recently, within the last week, saw the message. Yea,
Speaker 2: I took a hiatus in December. I didn't answer much.
Speaker 2: I needed a little bit.
Speaker 3: So wait, she lives in Sasito, where we reached out.
Speaker 2: You're in our neighborhood, you're in our backyard, come see us.
Speaker 5: We would have come absolutely, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Remember we walked on. We didn't know what to do
Speaker 1: with ourselves. Yeah we did.
Speaker 2: We had a day off and that's not normal. But
Speaker 2: if so find out we're there again, text my bone.
Speaker 5: Okay, we got to make sure we got numbers.
Speaker 3: Numbers.
Speaker 1: If Michelle it emailed me, trust me, and my phone's
Speaker 1: glued to me, I would have looked at it.
Speaker 2: But yes, seeh I don't get notified for everything. It
Speaker 2: wasn't even an email, it was a d M or whatever.
Speaker 5: I okay, I will definitely do that. I'll definitely do that.
Speaker 2: We will continue this at some point for sure. And
Speaker 2: it's been a great episode. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 5: On with us. Please thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: You are amazing. You gave some great advice those of you.
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