1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: joining us another week. We're so excited to be back. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Susan? 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Much better? All the antibiotics are done. I'm freezing here, 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: but it's a good day. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: You know, Susan and I were both sick. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I was sick for literally over a month, and we 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: both single handedly kept pharmaceutical companies in business. And I 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: personally just want to thank the creators of z Pax 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: personally thank them and steroids. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: I went on steroids till. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: It has been. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: It has been a brutal, brutal winner for sickness. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: But better now we have positive things coming up. First 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 2: of all, I hope you guys that are listening have 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: checked out some of our latest episodes. We've been having 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: a lot of fun in this new year, answering your 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: question and chatting with all your Bachelor Nation fans. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: And you know what, don't you think now that it's 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: a new year, and you know we're well into the 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: new year. Now people aren't drinking because you know, dry January, 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: genuine and you know, fabulous fair February whatever they do 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: in February, so they have time to listen to us, right, but. 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: How about our special guests today? You want to introduce here, Kathy. 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: They're definitely going to be listening to this one. We 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: have one of the heart throbs of Jones season on 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelorette. Please help us welcome Jonathan. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Jonathan, how are you? 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: Hello? 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: Hi? 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 5: How are you? My gosh? Heartthrow are you kidding me? 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: You're looking good? Jonathan? 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you I'm doing pretty good. 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Holidays and everything went well. 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: Everything went well, like no snow on the ground here 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: in the Midwest, so just nice. 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So wait you are in. Tell me where 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: you are now and where you live and where you're from. 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm writing a book here. 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: I need the details, all right, So you want the details? Okay. 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: So I'm originally from Kansas City, Missouri, so that's kind 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: of neighborhood to which tak Kansas where. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Chalk is from Chalk is, Yeah, And. 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: I relocated up here to Omaha, Nebraska, where I work currently. 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Is that why you relocate it? Because of work? 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: I relocated? Well, well, so we're going back Kansas City. 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: I moved up here in Omaha back in eighty nine 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: to like spread my wings as a youngster, and so 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: my mom had relocated up here a few years after 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: I had graduated high school, and so I kind of 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: was helping her out with her move and all that 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: other stuff. Next thing, you know, life happens, and I 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: ended up in Omaha, and so I work in Omaha, Nebraska, 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: and I'm currently living in Oakland, Iowa, which is about 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: a forty minute commute east of Omaha. 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: Do you like it up there in Oakland? Yeah, I 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 5: mean I like it. 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean it's a small community of about maybe fifteen 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: hundred people, so it's a small, quiet area. 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: Not very diverse though, But say you're not a big 62 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: city guy. 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 5: No, I am a big city guy. I'm from Kansas City, Missouri. 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm asking. 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying you, well, yeah, you know what I mean. 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: The only reason I'm in Oakland, Iowa is my kids 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: are there. You know. You know, my my daughter is 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: going to be a senior in high school next year, 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: and then my son will be a freshman in high 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: school next year. So I'm there for at least another 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: five years. 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Your kids are young, how is that racing teenagers? 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 74 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 4: Everything, everything is good, I mean, my you know, when 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: I hear about people having trouble with teenagers, is I 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: don't understand because both of my kids are A plus students. 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: They're doing well in athletics and all their scholastics and 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: their friendships and so it's all good. 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: So so you know, I was an educational consultant for 80 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: thirty five years. Oh okay, so you can call me 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: when it comes time for college. 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect. 83 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: I would love to do that, you know, because you know, 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: being a you know, being in Oakland, Iowa, and being 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: a single dad, and some times, you know, I may 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: have some issues the questions that you know, i'd need 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: your advice. 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: What any of us we were all moms? 89 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: What year? 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how old is your oldest child? 91 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: What? What? 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: What? 93 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: Age? 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: School? 95 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: Okay, my daughter is sixteen and so she's a junior 96 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 4: in high school. Now big time. 97 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: You're already in the college thing now then? Or should be? 98 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're pretty close. She's already actually starting to look 99 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: at prospects for colleges for volleyball. She's a really good 100 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: volleyball player. And I don't think I need this. 101 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Is she being is she being recruited? 102 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Is she being recruited. 103 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, she's been recruited. 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: I think she did a summer camp about a year 105 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: or two years ago at the University of Iowa. That's 106 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: where her mother is an alumni. And uh so she's 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: a big Hawkeye fan. So she went to this Hawkeye 108 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: summer camp and she actually got approached by the head 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: coach of Iowa. 110 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, offline, feel free, Jonathan to reach out to me. 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to, you know, share my welcome. 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're talking about your daughters. I've got some 113 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: juicy questions though. I hear that maybe you're in a relationship. 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: Is this true? 115 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: Oh? Did you hear that? 116 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: What I want to know is is this a new relationship? 117 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Did you know this person before? 118 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Maybe had you met her at a previous time in 119 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: your life? 120 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: You know what the scoop? 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: Okay, the scoop is Okay, so we're Gosh, on the seventeenth, 122 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: it'll be six months. So wow, So here's here's the scoop. 123 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: Okay. 124 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: I love a man that knows the little anniversary. 125 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know, I'm close. 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: And may I say, since everything on the internet is true, 127 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: she's beautiful, but carry out. 128 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 5: We want the d well, thank you, thank you. 129 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that she definitely stole my heart, that's 130 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: for sure. 131 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 5: So so here's the scoop. 132 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: So, so you know, Joan didn't didn't keep me along 133 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: for the hometown visits, and so I came back to 134 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: Iowa with my tail between my legs, so to speak. 135 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: And you know, I started this whole journey looking for love, 136 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: you know, And so when I came back, you know, 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: I was a little dejected, and so I kind of 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: I eventually went back online and I was just like 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: swiping and looking and and then I came across Michelle's 140 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: pictures and she eventually contacted me. We connected and uh, yeah, 141 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: it's it's it's been a beautiful pigure. 142 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: That's beautiful, all right. Which which site were you on? 143 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: Let's just say I was stung by a bee a Bumble. 144 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: Do you know? 145 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: The founder of Bumble is a woman and she lives 146 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. Her husband started and I want to say, 147 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one, maybe Hinge and she was like, 148 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: why shouldn't women get a post? 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: And so she started Bumble. 150 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: That is true every time I was ever on Bumble, 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: and as well, Hinge. Everybody's from New York. There was 152 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: nobody local. Is she local? 153 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: No? 154 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: No? 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: She you know, yeah, I mean you you two were 156 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: in Saucelito not too long ago, right she uh, yeah, 157 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: so she's from sauce Alito. 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: That's right. I got the message from the Yeah. 159 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, So what happened. 160 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: What what happened is then when I when I was 161 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: on bumble and I saw our picture, I think something 162 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: about her location or whatever. I think she was in 163 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: the Midwest. And so that's how I connected with her. 164 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: And then she discovered that I wasn't from Oakland, California, 165 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: but I was in Oakland, Iowa. Yeah, and so she 166 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: was originally born in Ames, Iowa. And so so that's 167 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: how we kind of connected. I was like, there's that 168 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: small possibility. 169 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: Is one of you moving to the others neighborhood. 170 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: You're moving fast, aren't you anywhere? 171 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: Your kids girls and son? Did they? 172 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: You know what? 173 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: I got this five year six year window, like when 174 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: my son graduates and both my kids are kind of 175 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: off doing their thing. It's like I got this. You 176 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: know this, uh, this the this chapter to turn and 177 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: you know what I love. I'm loving California, but man, 178 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: it's expensive. 179 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it is being you're happy. 180 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that. I 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 4: truly am happy. I mean, she's a she's a wonderful woman. 182 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: She has a wonderful spirit. She has a playfulness that 183 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: that I think we both connect on and we just 184 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: have fun with each other. 185 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: And that's why I think that's what I love about it. 186 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: Since I'm sitting here speechless, because I. 187 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Was going to ask him, would you go to Paradise? 188 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: I guess you're out. 189 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 190 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: She was going to ask if you would go to 191 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: a Bachelor Golden Bachelor in Paradise if they had one, 192 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: You're out. 193 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: They I would go to Bachelor in Paradise. 194 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: You can't bring her, You can't bring the show? 195 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: Why no, No, I didn't say why I said. 196 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: I said, I, you know, if they had me on 197 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: a as a cameo to like, you know, give the 198 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 4: guy some advice on whatever. 199 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well okay, so I haven't. 201 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm really serious and very happy that you're happy. It's 202 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: with you know, everyone who finds love. I'm rooting for that. 203 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, But I just want to get back 204 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: to Jones show for a minute. Your dancing skills at 205 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: the at the uh strip you call whatever you want, 206 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: like the fundraiser, Yeah, the fund raiser. 207 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: Are you telling me? 208 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Are you you didn't like you previous experience, Jonathan? Do 209 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: you want to do you want to fess up on that? 210 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Come on, you had to have been a dancer. 211 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 5: No, no, no, like professionally. 212 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: No, you just can dance. You got lose. 213 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 5: I can dance. You give me, you give me a beat. 214 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: My body, my body just does things that goes to 215 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: the beat, and. 216 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: So look good. You had the world watching. 217 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you, thank you. Yeah you know I did. 218 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 5: I did say. 219 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: I did say on the man tell all that I 220 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: did audition once for a mail strip, ben you. Yes, yes, 221 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: it was almost like the flash dance thing. I walked 222 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: in with this long Australian writing coat, my high black 223 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: boots up to my knees, my boom box, and I 224 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: played like Prance or something like that. 225 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: But I didn't do it. So that was you. 226 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: You were a real shy guy growing up. 227 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you know, actually I was. 228 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: I mean I grew up in a small basically all 229 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: small Catholic schools growing up, and I was the only 230 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: student of color up until, like I think my junior 231 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: year or whatever, And so I had this big afro, 232 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 4: I had these big thick glasses. I wore corduroy bill 233 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: bottom pants. 234 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: That was the style. 235 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, so I was. 236 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to say I was a nerd, but 237 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 4: you know what, I kind of felt a little bit 238 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: out of place, you know, being amongst you know. So, yeah, 239 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: I was kind of shy, but I got along well 240 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: with everybody. 241 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: Did you feel out of place at all when you 242 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: got to the mansion with all the men? 243 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: Oh no, not really. 244 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: I mean the only thing, the only thing that I 245 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: felt maybe out of place with the men is like, 246 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: you know what, you know, what is this? What has 247 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: this guy done for a living? What is he retired? 248 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: Does he own a business? Does he on a restaurant? 249 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: Does he own a yacht? 250 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: Is that the male competitive deal? 251 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: Like? 252 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Am I measure up? Is that what? 253 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: That's all? 254 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so? 255 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: But you know what also too, I mean growing up 256 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: as kid, I had like I had low self esteem issues, 257 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: and so you know there's always that a certain sense 258 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: of uh, evaluating my inner work with someone else's outward network. 259 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: You know, I just I just I get that that 260 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: is so smart? 261 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: What you just said, but it's also interesting as I 262 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know you. I've just getting to 263 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: know you now. But what's interesting is you project you're 264 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: a very handsome man. You know that you're you're you 265 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: seem to be a very kind man, and you project 266 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: this confidence. And it's just a reminder to everyone that 267 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: we all have a history, right, we all have the 268 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: fact that you said that you know you you were 269 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: not confident. That it's just interesting to me. I'm just 270 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: it's just I'm just commenting that, uh, you wouldn't. I 271 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: would never think that about you based on the man 272 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: you are today are now? 273 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh well, thank you. 274 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: I would just I would just say it's just years 275 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: of experience of growing into it. 276 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: I guess, you know. 277 00:11:49,960 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to get to know you even more. Wow, and. 278 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: The fans, so. 279 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: We you're going to help us also give a little 280 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: bit of advice to some folks in Bachelor Nation. But 281 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I first want to ask you, and we've asked many 282 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: of the Golden Men this question. 283 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Okay, what does it mean to you? And Jonathan? How 284 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: old are you? Sixty two? 285 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 5: Sixty sixty two? 286 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Yes, sixty two, Okay, so I'm not sixty two I'm 287 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: seventy one and Susan sixty seven. What does it mean 288 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: to you to be in your golden years? 289 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: Gosh, you know what, For me, it's like I really 290 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: you know, for me, I think that's just the title. 291 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't feel like I'm golden, you know. 292 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: I feel I feel like my spirit is so youthful. 293 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: From inside of myself, I'm grateful that I'm that my 294 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: physical body is healthy, and I still want to be active. 295 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: I still want to lift weights, I still want to 296 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: like do cardio. But from the inner spirit, I mean, 297 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 4: I would actually say that the way I feel inside, 298 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: I would say I probably feel like I'm in my 299 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: early forties is the way I feel. 300 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I feel so since and I talk 301 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: about this a lot. We feel the same way. You know, 302 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I can't date guys my own age. They don't have 303 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: enough energy. 304 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: The attitude about energy and energy. 305 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's. 306 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: But don't you feel like at the stage in your 307 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: sixties you've been through so much and you're more knowledgeable 308 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: and you know what to sweat out, what not to 309 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: sweat out, you know what I mean? 310 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: Not to It's kind of one of those things that's 311 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: like you know, I look at my life in retrospect, like, 312 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: you know, if I would have known what I know 313 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: is nothing, I probably would have made some changes. It's like, 314 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: you know, especially okay, So for me, like in the 315 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: golden years, the one thing I can probably relate to 316 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: is that, you know what, there's a lot of like 317 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: financial knowledge that I have required later in my life. 318 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 4: But I wish I would have known younger in my. 319 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: Life, like what give me? Tell me? 320 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: What give me what? 321 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: I didn't have that family structure, So like what if 322 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: I had a family or a father, which I grew 323 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: up without a father or a father that was like, 324 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: you know, said, hey, you know what, son, is very 325 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: important that you save early and teach me the principle 326 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: of compound, of compounding, and because right now it's like, 327 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: you know what if I would have saved like at 328 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: sixteen years old or seventeen years old, even whether I 329 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: was working at you know, a fast food restaurant or whatever, 330 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: just want to yeah, yeah, just making a small little 331 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: contribution over these years and multiplying with the compound, I'd 332 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: be in a way better off shape than I am. 333 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 5: Round. 334 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: Are you teaching your children, are you teaching your children. 335 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I actually have learned those principles through work here, 336 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, it's important for me 337 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: as a father, since I didn't get that from a father, 338 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: to pass that on to my children, even though that 339 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: they're young. At least the seeds plant. They may forget 340 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: about it for now, but at least that'll be my 341 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: responsibility that when they are starting to work to kind 342 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: of red to reiterate that principle to them. 343 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 344 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish that. You know, I was in education 345 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: for a lot of years. 346 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I wish that that was required teaching kids need to 347 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: learn the principles of money and just learn investing to check. 348 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 349 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: And you know what I and I think I think 350 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: in our school district at Riverside UH in Oakland, I 351 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: think they are that's part of the curriculum, you know, so. 352 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Well, they're they're getting wiser as well. So let me 353 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: ask you. You said your holidays were good. Is there 354 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: anything I don't know if you're a New Year's resolution guy, 355 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: or anything you want to be more aware of or 356 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: something you would like to accomplish in this twenty twenty five. 357 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: Gosh, you know what I mean, there's there's there's new 358 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: goals and objectives I think that are that are starting 359 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: to come to fruition in my mind. And but I 360 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: think as far as like the New Year's resolution that 361 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: I post on my Instagram was that it came to 362 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: me is that I want to invest in people that 363 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: are going to invest in me. It's like you know 364 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: what relationships, friendships. You know, over the past years we 365 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: talked about experiences that is that people say they're going 366 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: to do something and I count on it, I rely 367 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: on it, and then it doesn't happen. That's and uh, 368 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: I have confidence in myself and what I can do. 369 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: If I don't know how to do something, I'm believing me. 370 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna learn how to do it. But you're gonna 371 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: have my You're gonna have one hundred percent Jonathan, You're 372 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: gonna have my loyalty, You're gonna have my commitment. And 373 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: so as I'm sixty two, I want to be with 374 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: people or get involved with people that are going to 375 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: invest in me because you know what, they're going to 376 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: get that investment back, you know. 377 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: So what do you do for a living? I'm curious. 378 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: I work for a company that's basically in a data 379 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: analytics and consulting business, and so and so I work 380 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: in the what we call our document services support, uh, 381 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: kind of a logistics you know. We do a lot 382 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: of shipping on materials, curriculating things like that. 383 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, So I wanted Susan to ask 384 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: this question, but she's not going to. So I'm going 385 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to ask it because Susan is divorced and I'm not. 386 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: But I'm very curious about this answer. Okay, So you 387 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: did open up about your divorce on the show. What 388 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: was it like navigating that while also being a parent 389 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: and and you know, finding love again. What advice do 390 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: you have for parents on how to navigate a life 391 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: transition like that? Because my parents were divorced when I 392 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: was six, but my husband passed away. But I'm very 393 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: curious you're answering. 394 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Yeah, that's a very good question. Thank you 395 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: for asking that because it helps validate or gives closure too. 396 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: From the very beginning when I thought about being on 397 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: the show, that was one of my main concerns. Was 398 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 4: I know that's going to come up, and how am 399 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: I going to address it? You know, had I had 400 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: to be very mindful and consider it of the divorce, 401 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: of my marriage, of my ex wife, and of my 402 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 4: children if they happened to see the show, or some 403 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: of their kids or parents see the show. So I 404 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: had to be careful about how I got that out 405 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: and and I wanted to do it in a way 406 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: that was going to be anyone enough that people could 407 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: understand what happened without going into any other nasty details. 408 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: It really wasn't It really wasn't a nasty divorce other 409 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: than it just caught me blindsided, right, And there were 410 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: some questions that, you know, I read some comments and said, well, 411 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: how could be blindsided? Sure you could have seen it coming, 412 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 4: but you know what, I didn't. 413 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: I didn't don't always coming right, Yeah. 414 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like, you know, I I tried to 415 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: look at it from different angles, but it's like, you 416 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: know what, Yeah, I was blindsided. And so I had 417 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: to be very careful and mindful about that how I 418 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 4: how I would tell Joan that and just to let 419 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: you know, when I when I said that that part 420 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: of my life about the divorce with Joan, I wanted 421 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: her to kind of get the gist of what it 422 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: was about, but for her to see how it affected 423 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: me because you know, just even talking to it about 424 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 4: it now just kind of makes me a little emotional. 425 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: But I'm sorry. 426 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to upset you. No, no, no, no, 427 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm not. 428 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: I'm not upset at all, but leave me. I am 429 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: one hundred percent heeled, just like you know what, but 430 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: just like you know when you talk about things and 431 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: things happen and I and I was committed to the 432 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: show that to be vulnerable and let those things come 433 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: out as they happen. 434 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: Do you think the show helped you be who you 435 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: are right now? 436 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: Oh? 437 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know, because the fact that I got 438 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: selected for the show is like just it's amazing. 439 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: It's a blessing. It's a blessing, and so I believe 440 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 5: things happen for a reason. 441 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: And to think that I got picked out of the 442 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 4: thousands of men in just my vicinity and there's think 443 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 4: about the whole country, is such a privilege and such 444 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 4: a blessing that that there has to be something on 445 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: a very spiritual. 446 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: Message or. 447 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: Purpose that I was and sharing telling other men, as 448 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: we tell women, don't ever give up. There's so many 449 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: opportunities still. 450 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what they're going to be, but absolutely Yeah, 451 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: it took me. 452 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: It took me a while to get over my divorce, 453 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: and it took me a while to go out on 454 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: some dates, and it took me a while to But. 455 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: Look where you are now. I always say look forward. 456 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: I try, as I've said. You know, I've had some 457 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: horrible things in my life. You have Jonathan, so is Susan. 458 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: We all have. 459 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: You. 460 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: You don't get to the age that we are without 461 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: having some incredible triumphs and some incredible failures and sadness 462 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: in our lives. It's just that's what it is. But 463 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: I prefer and it sounds like you do, and I 464 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: know Susan does, and maybe it's our age. We focus 465 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: on the positive things. We take the lessons from the hardships, 466 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: but we focus on the good. 467 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: You don't forget them, but you learn from things. And yeah, 468 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: it's all about being happy right now. Yeah, and sharing 469 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: a smile and kindness. 470 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: Well, Jonathan tell us to make sure his kids get 471 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: their homework done, so you know he's got that all right. 472 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Since you seem Jonathan to be that's a wise not 473 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: a wise guy, but a wise man. 474 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: At the philadelphia'll show you was a wise guy. 475 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: Look at him. Going from Boston. We'll talk about Boston. 476 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: We'll go to some patties, get. 477 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: Some I want to get some clum chowder in Boston. 478 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: I want Kathy, you skipped over the line there. 479 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: Did you see it? What I think? 480 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: Katy? 481 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: And I am like, what, totally I saw it? Totally skipped. 482 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: One of the questions Jonathan was who do you think 483 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: would be a good match for us? 484 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 3: You know, who would you match me up with? Who 485 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: would you match Susan up? 486 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: But since most of y'all, as we say in Texas, 487 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: are already taken, we just thought we'd skip on past 488 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: that one. 489 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of guys are 490 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: like fell into relationships. 491 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's all right, they're all you know that. 492 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: That speaks well of you guys. 493 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: We were saying earlier that women are on social media, 494 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: on Instagram, on everything, and they're not shy anymore. They 495 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: reach out to you guys, and men are not. The 496 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: men don't even know how to get on. 497 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: And they're not on it and they're shy. Okay, but 498 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on with advice because that's where we are. 499 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: So Michael, you just we're gonna Rea. I'm gonna read 500 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: a question. You're just gonna tell us what you think, 501 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna make Michael's get some advice. Okay, 502 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Michael asked, Hi, Kathy and Susan. My sister loves your podcast. 503 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I hear her listening to it all the time. You 504 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: guys give really good advice. So I thought i'd reach 505 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: out to see if you can help me. I really 506 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: like this girl that is in the sorority. My frat 507 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: always mixes with I'm not the best with girls, so 508 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea how to approach her. We've only 509 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: met in passing a few times, so I don't know 510 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: how to approach her. What do you think I should do? 511 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: I want to ask her on a date, but I 512 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: don't want to freak her out. What says you, Jonathan, 513 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: how does he get this? How does he lock down 514 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the steel? 515 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: Okay? So this is my advice. This is something that 516 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: I wish I would have been able to do as 517 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 5: a young man. 518 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: Okay, because I get I get very I don't want 519 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: to say envious of jealous of guys who are like 520 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: assertive and you know they just if they see a 521 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: woman that they like you, just so my advice. Okay, 522 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: so I'm getting to the point. My advice is for 523 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: this young man is just be take a take a 524 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: take a big deep breath, know what he wants to ask, 525 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: and then just find that right moment and then just 526 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: say can I can I talk with you for a second, 527 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 4: and and then ask her out. 528 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: That's that's what I would suggest. 529 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: The worst that could happen is she says no, I 530 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be a freak out. Yeah, 531 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: that is insecurity, I think absolutely feeling like she's going 532 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: to freak out. Just say hey, I was thinking would 533 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: you like to get together? Sometimes like real not you lot. 534 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: You know, Michael, I will say to you. My advice 535 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: is very similar to Jonathan's and Susan's. The fact is, 536 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, take good risks in your life. Asking this 537 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: girl out is a good risk. What is the worst 538 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: that can happen? The answer could be no, you move on. 539 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: A bad risk is like jumping off the Empire State Building. 540 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: You know, don't do that to get a date with her. 541 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: But you know you don't want to spend your time 542 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: saying I wish you don't want to get. 543 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: To our end regret and say I wish I ask I. 544 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: Wish I had asked her out. I wished I had 545 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: booked because what's the worst thing? You pick yourself up 546 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: and say, okay. 547 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: We say that now because we're here. But I remember 548 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: feeling that way being that young, of course, But Michael, 549 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: you're as intimidated, you're you know, get over that, be 550 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: a man and just okay. 551 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: But she could do real quickly. Jonathan, what would you say, Uh, well, 552 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Michelle reached out. I can't remember you said, 553 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: Michelle reached out to you? 554 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: Or you reach out? 555 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, so you know you know how bumble works. 556 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: Is that ice wife? Because I see, I saw. 557 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: The women do the work. 558 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, until until she responds. Then that then I know 559 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: that she's interested. 560 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: So so no, I know, wipe. 561 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: But the point is once you once you swiped that 562 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: you were interested and she reached out to you, then 563 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: how did you feel about that being you know, it's 564 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: it's different, Like you knew she was interested because she swiped. 565 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: Oh you know what from from the moment her her 566 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: first words to me was it just it just made 567 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: my heart warm. 568 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: And Jonathan, what were those words? 569 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 5: Something about you know? Something about she she said something 570 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: about my eyes. 571 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: She could tell something about my eyes was was warm 572 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: and kind or something along along that line. And so 573 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: that that let me know that she just wasn't looking 574 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: at you know. We made an eye connection, you know, 575 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, the eyes are like, you know, 576 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 4: connection to your. 577 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: Soul, you know. 578 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: So I think eyes and we you know, we've interviewed 579 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: a lot of the eyes from your season, and I 580 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: think I'm not I think it's almost universal that we've 581 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: all said it's a smile and it's the eyes. That's 582 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: where I see all the time when people say, what's 583 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: the first thing you noticed about somebody, it's their eyes 584 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: and their smile. 585 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know. 586 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: And that that's why I chose the blindfold from my 587 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: uh my entrance out of the limo, because I remember 588 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: I wanted the eye contact between Joan and I, that 589 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: that first initial eye contact to see if there was 590 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: going to be something there, you know, so what and 591 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: and that's with with with Michelle's pictures, That's what I saw, 592 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: was that eye contact. 593 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: With Joan. Did you when did you apply for the show? 594 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: Did you apply because it was Joan or I didn't. 595 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: I didn't know it was gonna I didn't know it 596 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 5: was going to be Joan. 597 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping it was going to be 598 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: Joan because I had seen The Golden Bachelor and I 599 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: saw that when she had to leave and why she 600 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 4: had to leave, and. 601 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: He didn't want us. 602 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no no no. 603 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: That's thanks Jonathan. 604 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: Wrap this episode of. 605 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: Seriously, though, before we have to go, we've got to 606 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: play this little game, and this is about everybody else getting. 607 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: To know you. 608 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, We're going to 609 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: do easy little questions and everybody else listening will get 610 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: to know you a little bit better. Are you ready? 611 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready, Okay, We're gonna there's ten questions. 612 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 2: Who was your favorite band or musician where you were 613 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: in high school? 614 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson? 615 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay, all right. What's your favorite way to unwind after 616 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: a long day? 617 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 4: Kick off my shoes, sit on my couch, and have 618 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: my dog jump on my chest and give me some 619 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: some licks on. 620 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 5: The top of my head. 621 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: What kind of dog? What kind of dog? 622 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: Charlie is a beshng Oh? 623 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: Okay? 624 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: What is your favorite memory that you have when you 625 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: were a teenager? 626 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: My favorite memory when you were a teenager. Okay, I 627 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: remember my favorite memory was I was sitting outside of 628 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: high school. I had dropped out of the basketball tryal program, 629 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 4: and my high school basketball coach came up to me 630 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: one on one and basically I almost had like a 631 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: father's son conversation with me and said, hey, you know what, 632 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: You've got some potential, You got talent. If you would 633 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: have stuck with it, you'd be a great basketball player. 634 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: And he is like one of my mentors. He's my 635 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: almost my father. We still have a relationship to this day. 636 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: Lovely, how Jonathan, how tall are you? 637 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 5: Six ' four? So you met? 638 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: You would have made a great point guard. 639 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 5: If I had dribbling skills. 640 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: There is that what what would the title of your 641 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: autobiography be? 642 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 5: Title my autobiography? 643 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: It makes you think, doesn't that that question? 644 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 645 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, I kind of a go to 646 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: me myself. 647 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: And I okay, okay, if you were strict, we asked 648 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: everybody from the show by the way, ye a question 649 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: if you're stranded on a desert island and you could 650 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: only bring three guys from the mansion, who would they be? 651 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: Well, wait, to be fair, Susan, we've also said you're 652 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: taking Susan and me with you. 653 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: Regardless, who are the other three guys? 654 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: The other three guys? Okay, I would have to say Gary, 655 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 5: because you know Gary, I just love his laugh. I mean, 656 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: I got I can. 657 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Hear like, oh look at you, imitatum. 658 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: That's perfect. Yeah. 659 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: I love Gary Keith bless a lot too. 660 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I'd love to bring Jordan because he's like has 661 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: that comic relief. And I'd have to bring Jack, you know, Jack, Jack, Jordan, 662 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: and Gary. 663 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Do you see them all? Can you get together with 664 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: these guys? 665 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: I haven't I have and so far, you know, but 666 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: we we're kind of out the group text kind of 667 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 4: thing going on, and so yeah, we're kind of making 668 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: plans for that. 669 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: All right. 670 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: If you could bring back any fashion trend or old slang, 671 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: what would it be, and please don't say long basketball shorts? 672 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: Go ahead? What would you bring back? 673 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: Gosh? You know what? I would probably bring back bell 674 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 5: bell bottom and platform shoes. 675 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: Like the platform. I wear the Bell platform comfortable. 676 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 5: Keep thinking about John Travolta, you know, you know, do. 677 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: You have any fashion regrets from your younger days? Oh? 678 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 5: Regrets? Gosh? 679 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: I mean that's not even a good question. What would 680 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: you regret you were wearing it because it was in style. 681 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: We're going to skip that. 682 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thank you. 683 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: What's one thing about you now that you think would 684 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: surprise your younger. 685 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: Self to that for you? 686 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 687 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, not about your hair, that you are as confident 688 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: as you are now. 689 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 5: Oh that's that's very good. Absolutely, yep. 690 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: I would agree with it, just because I heard what 691 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: he said about his younger life. Now he wants his hair. 692 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: What you gonna say that he'ld be bald? 693 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: Despot on? Yeah, that I would be bald? Yeah, because 694 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: you know, well, yeah, this this happened. I never thought 695 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: that this happened by accident? 696 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: Can happen? This happened by accident? 697 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: What was the accent? 698 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 4: That I was on a date with the girl and 699 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: was drinking one or two or maybe three bottles of 700 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: wine and she looked at me with a little cross eyes. 701 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 5: She goes, you would look really hot bald. Can I 702 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: did I cut? Can I cut your hair? 703 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: So she cut my hair and the next morning I 704 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: looked in the mirror, thinking I had like this really 705 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: cool haircut shaved, and it was just patches of hair. 706 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 5: So I had no recourse except. 707 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: Just to shave it all out, and you've been that 708 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: way ever since. 709 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then when I went to work, everyone said, 710 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: j R. What did you do to your head? We 711 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 5: love it? So I've been wearing it ever since. 712 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: I love it. 713 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: That's his way. Can I just say I love you. 714 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: I want to get to know you better. You're a 715 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: super nice guy. But I am going to question your judgment. 716 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: She and you let anyone do anything to you after 717 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: three bottles of why? 718 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: What the hell were you thinking? 719 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, he was drinking with so he didn't have good 720 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: He didn't say that. 721 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: He said. You didn't say that, Jonathan. 722 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: It's like you know, you said she had three bottles 723 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: of why? Oh no, no, we had say you were 724 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: drunk too. All right, okay, you're off the hood, all right. 725 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: What's something you've always wanted to do but you haven't 726 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: done yet? And if what and whatever it is, why 727 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: haven't she done? 728 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, there's a number of things, but I think 729 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: one of the things is go up a hot air balloon. 730 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: I've always wanted to do that. 731 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: I want to I want to jump out of an 732 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: airplane in a parachute. 733 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 5: I would never do that. 734 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: I would do it in tandem. If I did it with, 735 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, a train person, I would really a trainer. 736 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. 737 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: They asked me that when I was interviewing on the 738 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: show what's something you want to do? I said, I 739 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: want to jump up. I'm scared to death to do it, 740 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: but I would do it if I was with an instructor, 741 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: you know instructor, or you're the looking guy who wanted 742 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: to date with me, I'd do with that. 743 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: Well there you go. 744 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think if 745 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: I went, if I went in the plane and flew 746 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: up and got to the point where its point time 747 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: to jump. 748 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Push me, just push me out right. 749 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what you'd have to do. 750 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 751 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Do you like roller coasters? 752 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: I do like roller coasters now, but as a kid 753 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 5: I didn't. 754 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: I remember my first, my first major roller coaster, going 755 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: up the you know, going up the incline. 756 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 5: I could hear the chains chaining and. 757 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: You're like, oh god, I hope it doesn't fall. 758 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can almost get into the top. I 759 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: got so scared, I started screaming, Mama. 760 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: Get me up here. What more, what piece of advice 761 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: or bad that you received and you've never. 762 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: Forgotten advice that I received, good or bad, good. 763 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: Or bad advice, but that you never forgot. Somebody said 764 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: something to you at one time, you never forgot it. 765 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: Oh, don't let a due woman shave your head next time. 766 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: That was new advice. 767 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 5: But right, Oh my gosh, that's that's hard. 768 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: I think it is hard, Kathy. 769 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: Do you know any that somebody gave you. 770 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: The best piece that I ever got that I've never 771 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: forgotten was. 772 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: When you're nervous about doing something new and you're walking 773 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: into a place where it's all new people. Whatever that 774 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: event is, it's okay because everyone's feeling the way you are, 775 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: So walk in feel confident because everyone's feeling the same 776 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: way you are. 777 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 5: That's good, that's good. Okay. I just remember one. 778 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: I just remember one, and it was it was it 779 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: was far as like I think, like, you know, I 780 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: did some acting at one point on stage whatever, like 781 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: you know, community theater. Remember or director told me once 782 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: is like if you if you forget your line or 783 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 4: if you forget your your movement, don't ever stop. 784 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 5: Just keep just keep moving and don't don't let them 785 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 5: see what you know is wrong. 786 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: It's the same thing like, don't let them see the Fair. 787 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 5: Do you sing, Jonathan, I have my I have my 788 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: moments where I tried to well know. 789 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: You said theater. Did you do musical theater? 790 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 4: I've done you. I've done a couple of music theaters. 791 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 4: The last one I did was I did rag Time 792 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: and so I did a little ensemble singing, so that 793 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: was pretty fun. 794 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: What what's your voice? Do you baritone tenor what are 795 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: you baritone? Baronet? 796 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 4: You know, as as I got older, my voice is 797 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: got raspier, or some people will say that I have 798 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: like this kind of a hairy Belafonte kind of a sound, 799 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 4: and sometimes it sometimes it's it's frustrating because I want 800 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: to articulate clear, Yeah, I hear this raspiness and like 801 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 4: sometimes it feels like I'm forcing my voice out. 802 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 3: So damn, this guy's talented. 803 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: He's got it all got it. 804 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 3: You are an amazing guy. I was so good getting 805 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: to know you a little. 806 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was our pleasure, haven't you really? 807 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: I can dance and I can. 808 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: Sing, you know what. 809 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 4: I'm really sorry that we missed you in sas Alito, 810 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: because you want to that corner where you were is 811 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 4: literally right up the street, so I. 812 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: Can she had sent me an email and I just 813 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: now recently, within the last week, saw the message. Yea, 814 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: I took a hiatus in December. I didn't answer much. 815 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: I needed a little bit. 816 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 3: So wait, she lives in Sasito, where we reached out. 817 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: You're in our neighborhood, you're in our backyard, come see us. 818 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 5: We would have come absolutely, Yeah, of course. 819 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: Remember we walked on. We didn't know what to do 820 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: with ourselves. Yeah we did. 821 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: We had a day off and that's not normal. But 822 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: if so find out we're there again, text my bone. 823 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 5: Okay, we got to make sure we got numbers. 824 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: Numbers. 825 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: If Michelle it emailed me, trust me, and my phone's 826 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: glued to me, I would have looked at it. 827 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: But yes, seeh I don't get notified for everything. It 828 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: wasn't even an email, it was a d M or whatever. 829 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 5: I okay, I will definitely do that. I'll definitely do that. 830 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: We will continue this at some point for sure. And 831 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: it's been a great episode. Thank you so much for coming. 832 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 5: On with us. Please thank you for having me. 833 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: You are amazing. You gave some great advice those of you. 834 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this episode, please follow us on Bachelor 835 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: Happy Hour Golden Hour. We have new episodes coming out 836 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: every week. You don't want to miss them. We just 837 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: we have fun with these guests and we know that 838 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: you enjoy hearing all about their lives too. 839 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting to hear some good, juicy stuff. Make 840 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: sure to submit your questions to us. 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