WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Christmas Lights

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Jerry's here too. We're feeling all jingly and belly

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the pre Christmas short stuff, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>best short stuff of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And we want to thank Daniel Montgomery listener

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<v Speaker 2>for sending this idea in indeed, as well as our

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<v Speaker 2>various sources on this. And this could have been a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand sources because this story is everywhere. Yeah, but Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>evening posts, loc fizz Org, Smithsonian one thousand bulbs dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And we're talking about the advent of Christmas lights,

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<v Speaker 1>which are They came surprisingly quickly after the invention of

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<v Speaker 1>the light bulb itself, after Edison invented the light bulb,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was actually in edison a file a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Edward H. Johnson who was in Edison's circle, who

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<v Speaker 1>came out with the idea of using these new electrical

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs to decorate his Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Edward Johnson was an inventor and a businessman

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<v Speaker 2>and he actually hired Edison when Edison was but twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four years old because he was like this kid is

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<v Speaker 2>going places, and they ended up working together, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of for the rest of their lives in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson ended up as the VP of Edison Electric Light Company,

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<v Speaker 2>which preceded con Ed and just three years after that

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<v Speaker 2>light bulb came around, he said, you know what would

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<v Speaker 2>look great on a Christmas tree and not burn it

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<v Speaker 2>down like the live candles that they've been using in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like an electric Christmas light.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so let's touch on those live candles. We've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it before in some past Christmas extravaganza. Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther, the Protestant dude who is often given credit

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<v Speaker 1>for coming up with the idea of putting candles on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas trees. Christmas trees are very very old in the

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<v Speaker 1>Teutonic area, and they were introduced to the Victorians in

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<v Speaker 1>England by Prince Albert, Queen Victoria's husband, who was from Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Christmas tree itself wasn't all that old

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<v Speaker 1>as a tradition by the time Edward Johnson put lights

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<v Speaker 1>on the Christmas tree. But people had been putting open

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<v Speaker 1>candles on their Christmas tree inside. Yes, the fire hazard

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<v Speaker 1>is just through the roof, right, So his idea. As

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<v Speaker 1>sketchy as electricity was back then, was an actual improvement

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<v Speaker 1>as far as safety was concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't. There aren't many things that are more

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<v Speaker 2>flammable than a two week old Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's I mean, you can just look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and hear the sound, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We collect them, our friends all donate them to

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<v Speaker 2>the camp and we throw those things on the fire

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<v Speaker 2>the end of a big night. And it's scary and amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, Like we're talking fifteen foot flames up

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<v Speaker 2>in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's really thrilling. It's also scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scary. In fact, we did that when Hodgman

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<v Speaker 2>went camping with us at the camp on this last

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<v Speaker 2>trip through Atlanta, when he did a show here, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I brought that tree out at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the night and threw it on everyone else knows the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Hodgman was a little bit like, what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on down here in Georgia?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, like, what are you people doing here? Me? Brady?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you looking at him and pointing and saying you No?

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<v Speaker 2>He loved it. Actually, so long story short. Edward Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>lives at one thirty six East thirty sixth Street in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, and he hand wires a Christmas tree with

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<v Speaker 2>eighty red, white, and blue lights. Apparently they were like

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<v Speaker 2>egg shaped, and the tree itself revolved, and as it

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<v Speaker 2>revolved the colors all so they would light up red

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<v Speaker 2>then light up white or not all of them, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know that section would light up red then white

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<v Speaker 2>than blue as it's spun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool. I mean, this guy like knocked it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the park first try. Heck yeah, work got

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<v Speaker 1>out pretty quickly, in part because he started calling reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Detroit Post Tribune sent a reporter, a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>even not even a cub reporter, to go check this

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<v Speaker 1>out because people were starting to like line up on

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<v Speaker 1>the street to peek through the window to see this

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree in Edward Johnson's parlor. And the veteran reporter W. A.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowfoot wrote, this is great quote. I'm just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, Okay, Yeah, it was brilliantly lighted with

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<v Speaker 1>eighty lights in all encase. Then these dainty glass eggs

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<v Speaker 1>his his words, and about equally divided between white, red,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue. One can hardly imagine anything prettier. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm amazed that he was able to get these things

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<v Speaker 2>to turn off and on as they rotated. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in the early days of handwiring something like that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most impressive thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>enough as it is today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So should we take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should take a break, Chuck, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we'll come right back and tell you where things

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<v Speaker 2>went from there right after this. All right, So Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>has lit up that first Christmas tree. Everyone is astounded.

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<v Speaker 2>He immediately starts one up himself year by year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think in eighteen eighty four the New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>says there are now one hundred and twenty bulbs. So

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<v Speaker 2>the tradition of kind of you know, one upping yourself

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<v Speaker 2>or even your neighbor, that started with the very first

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<v Speaker 2>lit Christmas tree, and all of a sudden, in eighteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 2>you can finally buy Christmas lights if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of money. So a string of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen Christmas lights that were available for sale in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety would have run you three hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in today's money twelve dollars back then. The average

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<v Speaker 1>person made about nine dollars a week back then, at

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<v Speaker 1>least according to one thousand bulbs dot com. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was cost prohibitive, like you had to be extraordinarily wealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you had some other obstacles to overcome. Your house

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<v Speaker 1>might not be wired for electricity, so you need a

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<v Speaker 1>generator to run your Christmas lights. That cost again three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five dollars for one sixteen buolb string.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a professional wireman an electrician to come out and

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<v Speaker 1>wire this stuff up for you because you should not

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<v Speaker 1>be doing it yourself. And I think there is an

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<v Speaker 1>estimate from the Library of Congress that said lighting your

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree around this time would have cost you about

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was in nineteen oh three, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>year that ge started selling these pre assembled kits. But

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, a full tree two grand. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not only was expensive, but electricity was still

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<v Speaker 2>new and people at the time, you know, early on

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<v Speaker 2>in electricity were still a little freaked out by it

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<v Speaker 2>and weren't sure it was super safe. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like it spread like Gangbusters right away. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was nineteen fourteen is when the light price really came down.

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<v Speaker 2>It was still like fifty bucks in today's dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>ain't cheap, but more affordable than three hundred and seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, more and more people started buying them,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the nineteen thirties is when they became cheap

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<v Speaker 2>enough to where they were kind of went really mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And by then, you know, city councils, local communities,

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<v Speaker 1>government buildings, like they had enough money to adorn like

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<v Speaker 1>the town square by then. Yeah, But it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>the thirties that people started adding like they were affordable

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<v Speaker 1>enough for the average home to deck out their own

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<v Speaker 1>place or their own Christmas tree. But they caught on

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<v Speaker 1>really quick, in part because in the twenties, I think

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<v Speaker 1>General Electrics started sponsoring Christmas light competitions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then between the thirties and the fifties, people

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<v Speaker 1>started buying more and more and more. And by the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties was when you started to like you could go

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<v Speaker 1>down a street and like almost every house was lit

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<v Speaker 1>with Christmas lights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In the seventies is when the many white lights

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<v Speaker 2>came out and a lot of people went to those.

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<v Speaker 2>We still use the white lights on our tree. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a do half twinkle half plane, so tasteful, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like it. It's a nice looking tree. I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a soft spot for colored light trees, especially the blues,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't use those ourselves, but I really like

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<v Speaker 2>those as well, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>We do our whole house in blue lights. The outside

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty. I'm so so beloved of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who else did that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, grace Land was blue for sure, I forgot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>blue light is nice at Christmas. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My favorite though, and I've probably said this one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred times by now, are the big bat colored bulbs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are hands down the best. They can bring me

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<v Speaker 1>to my knees and make me weep with nostalgia every

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<v Speaker 1>time I see them.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you use on your tree? Yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>big daddies?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean what else are you use?

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<v Speaker 2>What else are you gonna use?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'll just I used the many white ones. No,

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<v Speaker 1>those are good too. We did get a I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember where we got it from, but it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>artificial tree that kind of like flocking that's pre lit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that has the white lights in like installed, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quite sure you would be perfectly happy if we

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<v Speaker 1>just left it at that, but I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>need some fat bolts, so I add those on.

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<v Speaker 2>You were not alone, because apparently sixteen percent of Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>according to a Today's Homeowner survey from twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>prefer the colored lights. Twenty two percent use the white,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is down. I think those were much

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<v Speaker 2>more in fashion, probably, you know, fifteen ten, fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they seem like.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the white lights used to be more popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Think they were kind of a nineties thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a nineties kind of guy, though, sure you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, Christmas tree lights don't use the

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<v Speaker 2>most energy, but they definitely use extra energy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no getting around it. I think seven point eight

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars per year is what people spend on them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they light them to the tune of six

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<v Speaker 2>point six three billion kilowatt hours extra kilowatt hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So granted that's a twenty eleven statistic, it's probably gone

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<v Speaker 1>way down since the advent of led Christmas lights which

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<v Speaker 1>used way less power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I tried to find stats, and I did find

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<v Speaker 2>some that were really low, but like the one I

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<v Speaker 2>found that was low was not a trustworthy thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was only for the month of December, and that

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<v Speaker 2>discounts like you know, usually there's like a week on

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<v Speaker 2>either side of December that people are lighting things up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but suffice to say that back then, before the

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<v Speaker 1>LED lights, we in the United States alone used more

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<v Speaker 1>electricity than countries like Tanzania and El Salvador used the

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<v Speaker 1>entire year just the later Christmas lights, and even that

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<v Speaker 1>was just a small middling portion of the total electricity

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States uses that same year. In twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>that six point sixty three billion kilowot hours to like

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas lights represented zero point two percent of America's total

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<v Speaker 1>electricity usage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go, So light up your Christmas tree,

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<v Speaker 2>have a little fun for a month.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, especially if they're led right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know what I want to shout out,

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<v Speaker 2>friend of stuff you should know comedian and actor and

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<v Speaker 2>author Casey Wilson. Because Casey Wilson has six Christmas trees

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<v Speaker 2>in her house. She's Christmas nuts and they're beautiful and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>She has one in her bedroom. She loves Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas trees and Casey's awesome. You should read her book,

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<v Speaker 2>The Wreckage of My Presence Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot for that. That was a good, good

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<v Speaker 1>way to point people. Yeah, and also thanks again to

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Montgomery for sending this in. And everybody Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Will see you at the Christmas Special Extravaganza coming up tomorrow.

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