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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Strange is holding the zone if we can

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Speaker 1: get Thornton in there. It's a pretty good draft. Class

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Speaker 1: played a games. You nailed them off. Cold Strange isn't

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Speaker 1: It's like me picked to thirty six. Yeah, sorry, I

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Speaker 1: so far away, Mike, I don't really know. Well I had.

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Speaker 1: over to uh mac Jones. I think I had a

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Speaker 1: think Fred is right. You can't just automatically say and

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Speaker 1: I don't automatically say Paul being more optimistic. Boy, things

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Speaker 1: have changed this show. Huh. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled

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Speaker 1: by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is

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Speaker 1: Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium. Aduced When you have a

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Speaker 1: sneeze bruin, does it come out black and gold? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My god, the only one. I'm really sick. But why

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Speaker 1: I got it. Took me a second there, a little

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Speaker 1: play that, Hey, Matt play Oh please sing again please,

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Speaker 1: World's Original podcast. That was a surprise. I love that

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Speaker 1: it running. It's so soothing, It's so soothing saying that.

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Speaker 1: That's it was Jill, Yeah, what's her face? Back from practice?

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Speaker 1: All recognized the voice. I'm glad I'm familiar with some

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that you know sending the permission. Jill, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you for pointing out that I was the most optimistic one. Yes, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I so offered get beat up for the other way.

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Speaker 1: to hang around after today's show because we're debuting The

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two with Evan Lazarre and Alex Barth's show

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. That's gonna be great every Wednesday, two

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Speaker 1: just gave me a dirty look. Don't ever say that again, Stott. Sorry, bro. Well,

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Speaker 1: of the first four quarterbacks they've faced, this is the

422
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Speaker 1: one I'm less scared about. He's good, like you shouldn't

423
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: like underestimate him, but he's still not like Mr Jackson

424
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: or Tuah or Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, except for that one.

425
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, and I think Bill you know,

426
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: knows him. You know, he's like prepared the hell for

427
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: Jared goff because you know we faced him in a

428
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Uh so, like they know what he can

429
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: and can't do. Yeah, Well that's just what I wonder.

430
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean that was um you know the offensive coordinator,

431
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: um Ben Johnson was a was a Gays guy. Um,

432
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: so I know Bill did mention a little bit of that.

433
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, outside zone stuff for the Shanahan, but I

434
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 1: wonder how similar it is and you know if the

435
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: same kind of defensive game plan thought is going to

436
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: work now if it, you know, if it would obviously

437
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: worked well against the Rams. I just don't know how

438
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: similar to Two things that I would worry about along

439
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: Mike's lines are a Bill knew how to stop him

440
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: then that was a long time ago, yea, So maybe

441
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: he's improved, Maybe he's developed some things that he struggled at.

442
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: He's no longer struggling at. That's one. And the second

443
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: thing is they had no running game that day with

444
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: no Todd Gurley, and they're obviously running the ball extremely

445
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: well now Patriots have struggled stopping the run. True, So

446
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: I just wonder if you know twenty eighteen to you know,

447
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two, that could be a different Jerry Goff. Again,

448
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's a star, but

449
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: I do think when you look at their offensive personnel,

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: it's not stunning that they've gotten off to a good

451
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: start offensive. Who would you rather have back in one

452
00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: hundred percent this game, Lawrence Guy or Brian Hoyer? Yeah,

453
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: I think that when you look at I think that

454
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: when you look at I could do anything I wanted

455
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: offensively if I had faith in my quarterback. Yeah, I

456
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: think that. You know, the way that the team was

457
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: able to make Aaron Rodgers have one of the worst

458
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: halfs that he's ever had with Bill Belichick taking away

459
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: what they do best in that being their quarterback. I

460
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: look at this week being in the run game, and

461
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: so having Lawrence Guy back could be really beneficial for

462
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: not allowing them to have five point six yards per carry. Yeah,

463
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: and forcing Golf to throw the ball more So, I

464
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I would love to have him back. I

465
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: hope he is back. Yeah, it's tough. I hear what

466
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: Paul saying, though, because if you have Hoyer, he's again

467
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: he's not He's not a great quarterback, but you can

468
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: open up your playbook, you can do anything. There's nothing

469
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know how to do. It's probably the

470
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: right answer. I just think that I'm with everybody, these

471
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: Patriot fans who you know, just have that like zappy positivity,

472
00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about excitement level a rational if I

473
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: thy five points, what do I have a better chance

474
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: of doing that with Hoyer or zappy. There's not really

475
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: not a conversation to be had there unless they get

476
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: the pick six again, you know, and do that kind

477
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, I did. I did see. I caught

478
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: m It looked like guy traveled with a team this week,

479
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: so he was there. So I thought that was to

480
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: me that I know, I'm not like pulling this. I

481
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: saw that a couple of places. He had a shoulder injury, right,

482
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones had an ankle injury. Like, I think there's

483
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: a difference between being on a plane with a with

484
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: a bad ankle and in a shoulder having to move around,

485
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: like the swelling and all that stuff. It's not the

486
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: same kind of thing for his shoulder. I don't I

487
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: didn't look at that as he's closer. He didn't practice

488
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: on the bench the whole game. He didn't practice at

489
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: all last week, correct, right, I'm not misremembering that, right.

490
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: He was DNP all three days, That's right. Yeah. I

491
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: think he'll you know, I think he has a chance

492
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: to be back out at practice this week. I'm not

493
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: penciling him in to be back because he traveled last week. Yeah,

494
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: I was just happy he hadn't really heard anything about

495
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: what was going on with him. I mean, you know,

496
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: we saw a report this morning about John Nu that

497
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: it's a low ankle sprain, you know, but we didn't

498
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: get anything in that on guys, So I just I

499
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: just took it as I didn't know if his season

500
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: was over. Yeah, we got a good tweet about that.

501
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: Did you see that? What's that? Someone tweeted us right

502
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: after the report came out about Jono Smith low ankle

503
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: sprain week to week high ankle sprain for Mac Jones

504
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: day by day. So let me ask you another would

505
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: you rather? Would you rather outscore the Lions, like and

506
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: scoring the forties or be the first team to like

507
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: hold them under twenty forties? You'd rather you could put

508
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: up forty points? Would I mean that would change that,

509
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: That would change your view of the off Now. I

510
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: think the offense is coming coming around, but I don't

511
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: think I don't think that that's the more likely of

512
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: the two. Though. I think the more likely of the

513
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: two is that they hold this offense around twenty points

514
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: and they were able to get twenty seven twenty eight

515
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: and win. We think that's more likely. I think that's

516
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: more likely than than the offense with Bailey z Appy

517
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: scores four, isn't there defense allegedly that bad? They could

518
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: they could do? Could you both now now you're getting

519
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, could you now it's Super Bowl or bus baby?

520
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: Yesterday you didn't think they were going to win the game,

521
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: and now we're talking about winning forty something under twenty

522
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna win yesterday. That you're not pencil You're not confident.

523
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not penciling it. You're not confident. No, right,

524
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: that's all I didn't you know, because a lot of

525
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: people when they looked at the schedules, they penciled in

526
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: the Bears, they penciled in Detroit, the Browns. You can't

527
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 1: do that with this team anymore. You can't do it

528
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: just the Bears. That's the only the Bears. That what

529
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I don't think forties, Okay, maybe like thirties, twenties, okay,

530
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Speaker 1: expectations half I'll meet you halfway. I mean, what if

531
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Speaker 1: they just scored I don't know, twenty nine? Is that

532
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: really okay? Listen, I'll take I'll take all the offensive production,

533
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: I'll take zone. I'm really lowered my bar. Just get

534
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: down to the red zone. Just have a threat to

535
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: score friend, it's all I ask. One thing I will

536
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: point out about this is there their kicker situation is

537
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: that if they're forced to field goals, like they might

538
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: not even make those depending on if they're It almost

539
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: like scares me more because now they're just we're just

540
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. We're going for it. We're not

541
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: trying to kick. Yeah, you can't rely on their kicker.

542
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Like I just think this Patriots team regardless like he

543
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: got hurt. There was a guy who got hurt last week,

544
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: but he did make his field goals. Yeah, he just missed.

545
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: He missed two extra points. It's just narrow kind of

546
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: road to victory with this Patriots team over the last

547
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: couple of years that you know it needs no turnovers,

548
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like this Lions team just throws

549
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: it all on its head like they're just you know,

550
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: like one turnover could change everything. It's convention. It's like

551
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 1: it's with the conventional wisdom's gone with this team. It

552
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Like they just score and give

553
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: up scores every time. That's literally big twelve every time.

554
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: And I think when you're in those kinds of games

555
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: they can win, Like all it takes is like a

556
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: fluke turnover, yea and right, and that changes it. Who

557
00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: if they played Baltimore and Baltimore's had this. They played Aladelphia, Washington, Minnesota,

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Okay, the Ravens just can't hold onto a lead.

559
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Now they played they played a good team in Philly,

560
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a decent team in Minnesota, and two bad teams in

561
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: Washington in Seattle. Yeah, so they their offense probably hasn't

562
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: been tested yet. Is that fair to say by a

563
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: good I would say the best defense that they faced

564
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: was the Eagles, and they got thirty five on them. Yeah,

565
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: eighty six yards offense, I mean balanced, I mean one

566
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: eighty one rushing. So now I also would say they

567
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: and I made this comment yesterday, I think they've spent

568
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: a lot of time down two scores in the second

569
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: halves of games, and I think sometimes you could just

570
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: go free and easy. We're just gonna throw it on

571
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: four downs. To Mike's point, you're gonna use all four

572
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: downs because we're trailing. What do we have to lose,

573
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna throw it around and spread it out,

574
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: and the other team's probably going to be in a

575
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: little bit of a pre event because we got a

576
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: two score lead, right, And I think that some of

577
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: this production has to be a result of that, well

578
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: some of it. I'm not saying all of it, because

579
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: they've had they've had close games. They've all been close games. Yeah.

580
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Do we have like scores by quarter? Yeah, well I

581
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: know that Philadelphia. I told you this yesterday. Philadelphia and

582
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Seattle had two score leads in the fourth quarter. Yeah. No,

583
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about there, like how many points um they've

584
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: scored per quarter thirty two, thirty three, thirty two forty three,

585
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: So so they scored it's not much more in the fourth. Yeah,

586
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: they just go. Yeah, they just they generally get off

587
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: to fast starts. Thirty two to fourteen in the first quarter.

588
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I think that's skewed by the Washington game because Washington

589
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, they were behind early in Seattle too. Listen,

590
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: no one really knows what's going to happen this Sunday.

591
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: It's it's which makes it exciting, I think, right, it does.

592
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this brand of football regardless, I mean,

593
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: I think you'd be expecting to see fireworks even if

594
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: it was like a Tom you know, obviously, you know

595
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. These guys, but we've got them. But because

596
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: we're yeah, we've got to win. You have to win.

597
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: So Fred, you asked for quarterbreakdowns. Yeah, Paul just gave

598
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: it to us for all of them. Yeah. Thirty two three,

599
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: thirty two, forty three. That's their school is by quarter. Yeah.

600
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: Do they score a lot of points, yeah, consistent. It's

601
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: even doubt like if they had all their points in

602
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, they'd be like, okay, other teams are

603
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's all but it's not there. They've evened

604
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: out there. No, it's well, they had twenty two points

605
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter last week. Yeah, that was They

606
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: were down early and just kind of kept hanging around.

607
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be. It's gonna unfortunately for me

608
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: trying to write during the thing, it's gonna But see,

609
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: I have a lot of confidence in the Patriots in

610
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: that scenario. They don't get caught from behind a lot.

611
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: So if they have the lead and Detroit's chasing all day,

612
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I'll feel like you normally feel. Yeah, it was a

613
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: close game, but at the page, I knew the Patriots

614
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna win. Yeah, I don't if Fred gives you that look,

615
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: and I was comfortable yeah, I'll agree with that. Just

616
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: like the Pittsburgh game. Yeah, they never had a lead. Really,

617
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: it was always close. But I felt like, the Patriots

618
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: don't lose this kind of game, right, they have the lead,

619
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: the other team's chasing the whole second half. Patriots the

620
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: sweet spot. They're not gonna I'm not going to chat them. Well,

621
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: that's the way the Baltimore game was trending. But they

622
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: they were losing that game, but it was it was trending.

623
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: It was things were happening in the Patriots favor and

624
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: then it just fell apart. Yeah. See, I never felt

625
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: good about I mean, they took the lead and then

626
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Baltimore took it right back. Yeah, and then from that

627
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: point on when they made it twenty one twenty, it

628
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: was all Baltimore. Yeah, the rest of the game. So, Fred,

629
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I have I have would you rather for you? Would

630
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you rather Jalen Mills. We're getting Racy came back, or

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Speaker 1: have Jack Jones back out there again on Sunday Jack

632
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Speaker 1: Jones and put you know, Jalen Mills can be out

633
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: there too, but I want Jack Jones playing. No, But

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00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't I like Paul, He's like he just want

635
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: to be to Marylyn, Jalen Jones, I wanted again out there.

636
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Say it again, Tomaron, he didn't understand it the first time.

637
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: So Jalen Jones, Yeah, being out there, Jalan Mills, Jale Mills,

638
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Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, Jalen Mills being out there, or Jack Jones.

639
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: I can't have both. I can't have both. I want

640
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: you didn't have both last week. I want Jack Jalen

641
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: take against the run, against the running team like this.

642
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: This is where I feel like now the answer is

643
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: what you said, but that wasn't an option. But if

644
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I can only have one of those two guys active,

645
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I'd rather have it be Jalen Mills. But I want

646
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: to see more Jack Jones with Mills and maybe Jonathan

647
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Jones inside. Yeah, but yeah, I think Jack to me

648
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: like he I think he's great at attempting to force turnovers,

649
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: but he's just like focusing too much on that and

650
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: not tackling, which could be a problem in this game

651
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: when you have a team that can run the ball

652
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the way they can. Yeah, yeah, but they can also

653
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: pass it. So I want a guy out there who

654
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: can make a play. So I don't know, you know,

655
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Speaker 1: I'll have one guy you know, I can I can

656
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: live with one guy who's not the greatest tackler but

657
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: is more apt to make a play. You know, do

658
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: you think of Treyvon Digs. He's pretty good. Okay, you're consistent.

659
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Then most people think he sucks. Okay, he makes a

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: play every game, gives up ten. Yeah, Jack doesn't do

661
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: that yet. Well on Sunday he kind of did, only

662
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: only gets the run. Yeah, okay, wait, I've got another one.

663
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know you'd watch over time. I've got another one,

664
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: but this one is a little bit easier. Isaiah Win

665
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: starting or Marcus Cannon starting. I would put Win back

666
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: out there, but because I've got Cannon, you know, ready

667
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: to go, and Casey starts, you know, committing penalties again

668
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: or yeah, it's a tough one. What do you think

669
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, I just I like Marcus Cannon.

670
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I would I would make the move. I would make

671
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: the move. I think that they're going to probably try

672
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: to get high. But so then, when you have a

673
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: tackle eligible, do you bring Win in for that? Yeah,

674
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather have it the other way, and

675
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you run the risk of losing Isaiah Win. I mean,

676
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: do we have him, we have we know what I'm saying.

677
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I can't rely on Marcus Cannon playing right tackle the

678
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: rest of the way. I can't rely on that. I

679
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I can rely on Isaiah Win though

680
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I know I know that even that best. But you're

681
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: talking about injury. But I think if you take Win out,

682
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: you you mail have lost both of them. If Marcus

683
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Cannon gets hurt, that'scerne. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I

684
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know in a perfect world like

685
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: well you got a fight and work your way back

686
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: and get your spot back. It doesn't work like that sometimes,

687
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: especially in your last year of your contract. But yeah,

688
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that Cannon um Cannon deserves a longer look.

689
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: If it's this week, I don't know, but they have

690
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: to do something about that spot. Yeah, yep, yeah, all right.

691
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Five past five hundred's the ace ticket hutline web radio

692
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Let's get

693
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: to the phone see what people will have to say.

694
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Speaker 1: Start with Todd North Carolina. What's up, Todd? I was

695
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: really happy watching that game. I sent a quick email

696
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: to the postgame saying that you know, this was good

697
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: to see their determination and their grit to overcome what

698
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: was obviously a pretty big setback pretty early in the game,

699
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: and they never quit, and I think I really appreciate that,

700
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: just to see that, and I think that I'm gonna

701
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: come out right and say it. I think we're gonna

702
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: beat the b lines. I think we're I think we're

703
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: due for maybe a little wind streak here because I

704
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: like what's going on. So that's just my take. And yeah,

705
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: I love the after show and that was great with

706
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: those guys, and it's great they see that. Evans getting

707
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: his own show coming up next though. I'll be listening

708
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: to that too. Take care of guys, all right, thanks. Yeah,

709
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I think I think in terms of the locker room,

710
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: I think, you know, even though a loss is a loss,

711
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: I think they might feel better about themselves this week

712
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: than they did the week before. Yeah, it could be.

713
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll say they celebrated a moral victory,

714
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: but I think they did. Yeah. The vibes seem good. Yeah,

715
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean they banned it together a third string quarterback,

716
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, lambeau Field. I think I think, you know,

717
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: they quietly feel good about the effort, and I think

718
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: there's a positive vibe going into this game. I agree. Like,

719
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: when I was working on press pass, texted Neil and

720
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this might be the most positive press

721
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: pass after a loss. I just felt like listening to Slater,

722
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: you know, listening to you know, honestly every single person,

723
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: not just Later being a captain and being a veteran

724
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: that he is. I think everyone was just kind of

725
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: like impressed with it, even though they wouldn't say that's

726
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: that's the that's the tone I got from it. Yeah,

727
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: I would agree. Dan in Virginia and Michigan, what's up Hello?

728
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: And all Hello. This first thing might get me a

729
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: cool story handled. But the Patriots playing the lines in

730
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: their throwbacks has me thinking back to a Thanksgiving game.

731
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eleven, twenty twelve. It was

732
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: on the day of Thanksgiving. We were traveling down to

733
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: visit my anilaws down in Pittsburgh, so, you know, the

734
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: big Patriot haters, and we get there about halftime and

735
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you recall the game, but the

736
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Patriots were down by about twenty points at halftime and

737
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: my teenage nephew comes up to me. But you know,

738
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think even said low. He just comes up

739
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: all cocky and he's like, hey, uncle Dan, the Patriots

740
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: are down twenty four points or whatever it was. And

741
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: fortunately I had faith in the team and I ended

742
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: up laughing at the end of the day because obviously

743
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: they came back and one big time in that game.

744
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: But with regards to this upcoming game, thanks man. In

745
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: regards to the upcoming game, you touched on a little

746
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: bit with Jared Goff. Do you think we can really

747
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: expect this game to go like the Super Bowl or

748
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: was that largely a product of mcveigh's play calling and

749
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: the fact that Gough was kind of depended on him

750
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: up until right before the play. And the other question

751
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I have is are we going to see a big

752
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: boost and performance on both sides because the offense can

753
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: score hopefully given the lines defense, and that takes a

754
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: bit of pressure off the off the Patriots defense. Even

755
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: though the lines can score, they you know that, you

756
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: know there is an as a much presure on them

757
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: to hold up the entire team because that's the offense

758
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: team get going a little bit well, if you recalling

759
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: that's like Paul said, they didn't have a running game

760
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, so they were. They were depleted offensively, a

761
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: little bit, and I think, yeah, and I think he

762
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: was a lot less experienced at the time. Now listen,

763
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: he could go out and do the same thing. I

764
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: don't think Jared Goff is a great quarterback. I loved

765
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: your Kirk Cousins um comp Freddy. I think those are

766
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: guys that are capable on any given Sunday of looking

767
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: really good and really bad. Yep. That's why they're sort

768
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: of middling quarterbacks. They're inconsistent. Now he's played well this year.

769
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Eleven touchdowns, three picks. That's a lot of turnovers. That's

770
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, all right, thanks

771
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: dan Um. Let's go to Alex and fall River. What's

772
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: up A seventeen ten? Um? I've done a random question

773
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: about the league in general. So I was thinking about

774
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: young storre star quarterbacks on how they never really seemed

775
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: US fifteen the rookie contract, and I was wondering why

776
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: that is When I know the NBA to have financial

777
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: incentive to study with the original team. How come in

778
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: the NFL never happened? And I'll take your okay, NBA

779
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: has what is the what is the question exactly? I

780
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: didn't know if you've said a specific position. But why quarterbacks? Quarterbacks?

781
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Why don't they stay? Quarterbacks don't stay for good? They do,

782
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Yeah, what they do

783
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: is they extend them before that first contract. Us Wilson.

784
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of young quarterbacks. Dak Prescott

785
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: just signed a new contract and you know what to

786
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: no last year, right, Yes, I mean if you don't

787
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: resign your quarterback to a second contract, it means you

788
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: weren't convinced on it, right, all right, I mean even

789
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield got the fifth year option picked up, right,

790
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: So they had to treat them. Daniel Jones like, if

791
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: they don't resign them, that means they want them. Yeah.

792
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: It's a lot different than the NBA two where the

793
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: NBA is not really set up for parody in the

794
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: league like the NFL is um and also the teams

795
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: that draft first, like like take Zion in New Orleans,

796
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: like or these small like the Sacramento Kings, Like, no

797
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: one's gonna stay there, so you have to incentivize them

798
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: to stay there and not just sign with like the

799
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Lakers or Miami. You know that's a good is how

800
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: do they incentivize staying with your team, you can get

801
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: staying with your team, you can work, you can earn more. Right, Yeah,

802
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I think there's the existing team is able to offer

803
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: more money in the NBA in like the Supermax Extent

804
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: chain or some I forget how it all breaks down.

805
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I went to front office.

806
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, like you said, Alex, the NFL is

807
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: set up to try to be, you know, for parody, which,

808
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: by the way, new record fifteen teams two and two

809
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: through four weeks. This year has been great. It has

810
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: been really fun to like watch football. I think I say,

811
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say, she sarcastic. I think it's

812
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: been kind of fun. There's I mean, after years and

813
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: years of it kind of just being us at the top.

814
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: I way, I'm looking for the silver line it is.

815
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it is weird. I feel you don't really

816
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: know what the power structure is anymore. I mean, it's

817
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: changed a lot, but it's certainly still some good teams,

818
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: but overall it's it's you don't have like the usual,

819
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: all right, it's always you know, they went down to

820
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: one undefeated team after three weeks and one winless team

821
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: after four weeks like that's that's amazing to me. Everybody's

822
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: just sort of black. Yeah. Yeah. At first I was like, oh,

823
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Bills are like a step ahead of everyone else. And

824
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I also, I wish I was like

825
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: h but but I think it's because they have so

826
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: many people out right now to get all the people back. Yeah,

827
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: they are, and like like fill it Alphia, Kansas City, Buffalo, like, yeah,

828
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: they probably are a notch above everybody else. But usually

829
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: at this time of year, you're like looking at a

830
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: bunch of different teams like that, and there's some other

831
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: teams that you think of in that way that really

832
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: haven't shown it yet, you know, for the year, you know,

833
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: one don't know, eight years in a row. The Chargers

834
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: are being that category and they're decimated by injuries too, like,

835
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: so that's the other part of it. I think there's

836
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: been a lot of impactful injuries around the league, and

837
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: now that always stinks. Everybody. Everybody gets upset about that,

838
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: except for Fred. He likes to see guys get hurt

839
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: as long as they're not Patriots. Correct right, her statement,

840
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: but not entirely inaccurate. Ben and Long Island Rights in

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna fall in the middle, Yeah, like they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go seven and ten or or I'd rather bottom

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Speaker 1: he's going to trade the pick. So then I'm like,

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Speaker 1: whether you trade it away and get more picks or

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Speaker 1: use it. I think I'd want to be in that

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Speaker 1: will say too, though. I mean I think over the

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Speaker 1: it's funny, you see you see the look. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: a lot of TV shows I would think probably took

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899
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914
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926
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Speaker 1: day out at practice today. Typically Wednesdays are pretty busy

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Speaker 1: first day back at practice, so you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of attendance notes here. Some good news for the Patriots.

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00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Quarterback Mac Jones was at practice. We did see him

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Speaker 1: throw a little bit early on in the media portion

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Speaker 1: against air. Obviously we don't seem team drills or anything

1107
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: like that at this point of the season, but we

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00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: did get to see Mac make some throws dropped back

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Speaker 1: to pass on like last week when he was a

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Speaker 1: stay sary bike over there at the end of the

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: end zone and uh still ginger, still limping around. But

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Speaker 1: I thought the fact that he was actually making some

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: throws down the field on those dropbacks was a step

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. Taekwon Thornton was at practice. Signals

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Speaker 1: is ir return clock has begun? Jamie Collins and Garrett

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Speaker 1: Gilbert were there, assuming they're both on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins rocking nine, and the two absences were Brian

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: Hoyer and Johnny Smith. So Laurence Guy also returning to

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Speaker 1: practice after sitting out all last week and missing the

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So wow, mostly good news, I would say.

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Speaker 1: So Hoyer wasn't there this So are we assuming Zappi's

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Speaker 1: our starting quarterback this week? Yeah? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think that's why they brought Gilbert in because it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Zappy and they need somebody someone to them up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Zach cost got a little video too of Thornton. It

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Speaker 1: just like again you sometimes, you know, build the Patriots

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00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: don't give you a lot of injury information, so you

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Speaker 1: have to sort of piece it together. Okay, so last

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Speaker 1: week the situation was Brian Hoyer and Bailey Zappy. No

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, he was out right, Yeah, so what has changed?

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Speaker 1: Where's that hurt? Right? So you bring in a guy? Right?

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Speaker 1: If Mac Jones was healthy and Bailey Zappy was healthy, right,

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Speaker 1: why would you bring in a guy that's right? What

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Speaker 1: if you're not quite sure about Mac yet and you

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Speaker 1: just want to be safe. I also would mentioned that

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Speaker 1: they do need to have somebody to run the scout

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Speaker 1: team during practice. So if Mac is testing it and

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Speaker 1: Sappy's getting the majority of the starter reps, if you

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Speaker 1: will with the number one offense. Don't don't come at

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Speaker 1: me with logic. Garret Gilbert's running the scout team, presumably

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Speaker 1: that that could be the breakdown at practice point. Absolutely

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: it could be. And they were indoors today. They were

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Speaker 1: indoors walked through, so no paths. But I think this

1144
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a trend that we've seen

1145
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: more in recent years with Belichick that he almost looks

1146
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: ahead on the weather forecast and if Sunday is not

1147
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: going to be a weather game, if there's not rain,

1148
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: if it's not going to be cold, and it's a

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: bad day out during the week, we have seen them

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00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: move inside a little bit more, I would say, the

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Speaker 1: last year or two and what they've done in the past.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not totally shocked because it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: sixty and sunny on Sunday at kickoff that Belichick gave

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Speaker 1: him the the indoor practice in the rain. What would

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: you say the difference in the mood between outdoor and indoor.

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00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: I would it's a good question to answer the question legitimately, No,

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Speaker 1: it's I'm trying to think about it because it's a

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: good question. I never thought about it. I would say

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Speaker 1: I prefer indoor practices, which are very rare obviously here,

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Speaker 1: But I prefer prefer indoor practices because we get a

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Speaker 1: much better vantage point of the fee yield than outdoor practices.

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Speaker 1: Out Like last week on Friday, Mac is on one

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Speaker 1: end of the field. We got to stay in our

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Speaker 1: little corner of the field on the total opposite end. Today,

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Speaker 1: I actually posted the video of him throwing on on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We're standing, he's standing, you know, twenty five yards away

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Speaker 1: from us, and we're right front and center with him

1168
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Speaker 1: watching him throw passes and watch the rest of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I think you get a much better vantage point,

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Speaker 1: especially if the quarterbacks throwing when you're inside and when

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Speaker 1: you're outside me and they're throwing right into your into

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Speaker 1: your lap sometimes. How did the pat Patriot helmets look

1173
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Speaker 1: out there to say, yeah, I'm not usually a unified

1174
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not usually a uniform guy. But when when Mac

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Speaker 1: came out with the pat Patriot helmet on, you were like, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty cool, right, okay, yeah, all right? And during

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Speaker 1: Bill's press conference he was he had some pretty you know,

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: funny lines today. Did that jovial mood, you know, cross

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Speaker 1: over to practice so there were less grousing by the

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Speaker 1: media because of that. Well, I think the media in

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Speaker 1: general is happy that we didn't have to stand out

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Speaker 1: in the rain. Okay, so that limited grousing, but they

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Speaker 1: had to walk over there. Maybe that way we actually

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01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: drove over a lot of harun thing today that drove

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Speaker 1: over and then and then Pappaccino's pizza too. I heard

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Speaker 1: in the didn't have to say it's good, it's good

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Speaker 1: lovers Pappuccinos pizza, and that's Pappuccinos there in a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's classic. I thought that isn't like doms are pizza place?

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Speaker 1: Now I know what I thought it was. Now Doms

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Speaker 1: is the steak Tips? Do steak Tips? sALS is the pizza,

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Okay, yeah, we went back to

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Speaker 1: Pappaccinos just for media mail. I think is that allows

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Speaker 1: that allowed? I don't know. Does PR have to be

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: sure it was? Well, it did say in the media

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Speaker 1: and Stacy's email it would be Poppuccino's pizza. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: so the media grouseton. Yeah, yeah, if there was home grousing,

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Speaker 1: I do like that that he usually puts in the email. Now,

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Speaker 1: what what the lunch is? Right? Nice. You can prepare it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't like it, you can go to exactly,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Johnson wherever you go. And I did

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Speaker 1: go to Jimmy John's in Green Bay though, because there

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Speaker 1: was one right next to it. I noticed that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I spotted it as soon as we got there. Yeah, Evans,

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Speaker 1: he brings his own. You know, it's like you, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Oh yeah, a fat guy. I eat here

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Speaker 1: every day. But you, when you don't like what they're serving,

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Speaker 1: you make it a point to go get your I'd

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Speaker 1: rather yeah, i'd rather get it. If it's a free

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Speaker 1: thing that I don't like. I would rather get something

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Speaker 1: that I do like. Yes, that he's not lying about it,

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Speaker 1: and he makes a big big thing about that's that's

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Speaker 1: the line. Fred makes it a big thing. What did

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: he you pack that I went and got myself lunch

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Speaker 1: one day? Rather than each made a big thing, it

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01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 1: was the It was a series of lunches where Paul

1216
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: was disgusted we kept getting so so he makes a point.

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Speaker 1: Thanks small bone. Oh chicken, chicken with a small bone,

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Speaker 1: like eighteen days in a row. So so Paul makes

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Speaker 1: it a point. One sub he goes at the Angelos

1220
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Speaker 1: and we're all eating. Right. He comes in, just slaps

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Speaker 1: his sub business not exactly what such a show of

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: You can make fun of me for going get lunch

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Speaker 1: and complaining about a free lunch. That chicken he just

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Speaker 1: slams the chicken, just slams the stubs down in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the table. You know, likes better than chicken breast.

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Speaker 1: And to me it's free food. It was terrible, right,

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Speaker 1: That's why I said, if you want to make fun

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Speaker 1: of me for not eating the free lunch, that's accurate.

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Speaker 1: You make fun of me for slamming my things. Show

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Speaker 1: that's not what There's Jersey, Mikes or Jimmy John's within

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Speaker 1: walking distance on the road. I'm there, Yeah, that's what

1232
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Speaker 1: I'm bringing Jersey. It's the same thing. Yeah, he'd rather

1233
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Speaker 1: have something that he wants to eat. Okay, it's something

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Speaker 1: that was given to him that he doesn't want to eat.

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Speaker 1: You find the Jersey, I don't think it's rather big

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Speaker 1: enough strange. I find it big enough. Some lament me

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: and Paul have. I usually yeah, I usually like you

1238
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: you finish it and you're like, I could go for

1239
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: maybe not a large the largest too big. I actually

1240
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: have the regular is too small. I find a bigger

1241
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: problem Jimmy John's. Not to make fun of Jimmy Johns

1242
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: because I love you guys. That their regular is a

1243
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit skimpy sometimes, so you gotta

1244
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: you gotta spice it up, maybe some extra turkey in

1245
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: there or something. So what I like about Jersey Mike though,

1246
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: even if even they're small, they stuff it. It's packed.

1247
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's enough. I mean, you're you're a new man, though, Man,

1248
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm still fat. You lost all that way frying fifteen

1249
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Speaker 1: hundred calories a day. Not for me? Yeah, yeah, anymore?

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Speaker 1: All right? Uh, five five past five hundred is the

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Speaker 1: as ticket hut line web radio at Patriots dot com

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Speaker 1: is the email address. Thank you for that update, Evan.

1253
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Speaker 1: And you're excited about the show starting up at two o'clock.

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Yes, I just showed Alex how to

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Speaker 1: get to the studio so he knows where had to

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Speaker 1: find us that too, And we're pumped. Yeah, we've we've

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: been plugging the show. I saw on Twitter, Uh you

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: mentioned it and people were just so relieved. I mean

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: they were really worried about you know how there was

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: ore In Barth back. Yeah, they need to fix. They

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: need the nerves too bad. Evan didn't know that they

1262
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: were really needing to fix because Blotch everybody like ten

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: people evidently they all call them on Sunday. They're very upset. Yeah,

1264
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: all right, they would be like you just please ask.

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: We can talk about it off air, but I need names.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their names though. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to the phones. Speeds and Fresno, what's up? Speed?

1268
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? It was interesting how much like help

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: that be got um it was. It was great, like

1270
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: the defense scoring and uh, the coaches like really holding

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: his hand and the Packers trying to throw away the

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: game for the better part of sixty minutes. And I

1273
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: know there's those caveats like with with how you know

1274
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: what helped him out there, But I was kind of

1275
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: wondering if you thought that the way things looked were

1276
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: like as different as you would have expected going from

1277
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: your first string quarterback to your third string quarterback. I'm

1278
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: not trying to bass on Mac with that. I'm just

1279
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of wondering, is it that Zappy looked better or

1280
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: maybe Mac isn't all we're hoping to be a combination

1281
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: of those things. What do you think. I like to

1282
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: think if Mack had played, they'd won the game. I

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: like to think that if everything played out exactly the same,

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, the entire game changes of Mac place. Yeah,

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: like you don't necessarily get the same game from Green true.

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01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: And you wonder if the offensive line would have been

1287
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, band it together. We've got to,

1288
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, pick up our end of the deal if

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01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Mac was there. But I'd like to think that they

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: would be you know, you know, like just extrapolate it

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: to overtime. You take over in the forty nine yard line,

1292
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: and overtime, Mac Jones is gonna get a first time.

1293
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna at least you might miss the

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01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: field goal. Not arrantine that they're gonna make the kick,

1295
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get a field goal. You're gonna get

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: into range, you're gonna get a field goal off. Yeah.

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: So I just kind of I want to wonder, like,

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01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: um Fred, to your point, kind of like did the

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: like offensive line, for instance, kind of step it up

1300
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: and led the fact that the kid needed some help.

1301
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: And when we look back on this game, is it

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: more likely going to be a blip on the radar

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: because of the extenuating circumstances with your Thurston quarterback, or

1304
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: do you think that this is more likely stay six

1305
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: weeks from now going to be like, hey, remember when

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01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: they started to turn it up right green, big game? Well,

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01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: that's what I more likely. I hear what you're saying

1308
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: to me. That's why I said, I'm not calling that

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: one a moral victory until I see what happens down

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01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: the road. If in the next two three games they win,

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01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: they play, then I'll say, okay, that it was a

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: moral victory. It did propel them, it gave them a

1313
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: positive it's more than likely to happen considering the schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying. If you think that, but I'm

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: not that positive. I can't be. I just think that

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: you fell into this last year, fell into what like

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: they had mortal victories against Tampa and Dallas. Then they

1318
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 1: ripped off seven in a row when everybody said look, look, look,

1319
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: and then they couldn't force a punt like it. One

1320
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to the other. That's all I'm saying. Okay,

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01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: let's take him as they come out, figure it out.

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: On the way. Yeah, I'd feel better if Mac was

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01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy. Well I can't argue with that. No,

1324
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm serious, starting ques, I'd feel better if he if

1325
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: he never played again, feel better. But he's not, and

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: so we're what we're all left to wonder, what does

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: the result of the game at Lambeau, How will that

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01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: affect the next few games without Mac? Yeah, I mean,

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: the only thing I really take from it is the

1330
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: continued progression of the run game. And you know, but

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: as far as what they did in the passing game,

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: I don't really see much other than maybe Mac watches

1333
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: it and said there are plays there that I'm leaving

1334
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: on the field that I see now from this perspective,

1335
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we'll go into it when he comes

1336
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: back more confident. But I find it hard to to

1337
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: really draw things that you know, we're going to take

1338
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: out a week four that are gonna matter when you

1339
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: get to December. It's gonna depend on Mac when he

1340
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: comes back and what the offense looks like with him. Yeah. Yeah.

1341
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: The other thing was we don't know if they're if

1342
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: they're cupcake wins, Like, well, if we go up and

1343
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: beat up on teams of the next day three weeks,

1344
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: like bad teams, we don't know if they're cupcakes couping

1345
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: win or if the team is actually better, Like you

1346
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: can't really tell the difference, I know, but let's not

1347
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: forget we're one in three. I mean on a lot

1348
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: of people's schedules, where the cupcake. Well, I hate to

1349
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: say that we are involved in the only game of

1350
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: the weekend between two teams with losing records. Yeah, you know,

1351
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, but we're you know, for

1352
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot of teams in this league where the we're

1353
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: the ones we should beat these guys, you know, like, well,

1354
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: was what was the stat two win teams? How many

1355
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen? It's a fifteen two and two teams the

1356
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: most ever through four weeks. I thought Aaron Rodgers look

1357
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: impressively disinterested, even for Aaron Rodgers go and that. But

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of my point about if if the game

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01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: unfolded exactly the same as I don't have I think

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: one hundred percent they win. If Mac Jones plays, I

1361
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: think that the game may have unfolded a little differently

1362
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is engaged in the game from the outset. Yeah,

1363
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: and says, well, Mac Jones's plant. He said it after

1364
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: the game. We couldn't lose that game and had a

1365
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: third string quarterback plan. I mean, I mean, I'm not

1366
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: crediting him for that. I think that was an embarrassing

1367
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: performance in the first half by him. The pick six

1368
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: was one of the worst players I've ever seen a

1369
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: quarterback mate. He didn't even care at least Drew care

1370
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: like he just went like, yeah, no, it was terrible.

1371
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: It was a terrible throw, and a lot of the

1372
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: other throws were just I'm disgusted with my team. I'm

1373
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: mad at you. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you.

1374
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: You're not at my level. You don't belong on the

1375
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: field with me. That's how we played the whole first half.

1376
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: You're right, he kind of played the whole game like that.

1377
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: He just made some better plays in the second half.

1378
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: I am absolutely I'm stunned. I am stunned by how

1379
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: positive people are about Bailey's abbey, Like, I just I

1380
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: understand that he did it and you know, crap down

1381
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: his leg for lack of a better term on Sunday,

1382
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: But you watched the film back and he he did

1383
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: without doing it obviously, let me put it to you

1384
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: that way, right, like he didn't turn it over and

1385
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: did intro a bad pick six or fumble the game away? Well,

1386
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean at the end in overtime, right, But we

1387
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: do conveniently forget that he did turn it over. I

1388
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: had a whole conversation about it on the postgame show, Mike,

1389
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: and I had to convince a caller no, no, no,

1390
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: they did turn it over, and he did turn it over.

1391
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: And you know that sack happens in over three seconds.

1392
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 1: But Isaiah Winn gets blamed for it, obviously, and Dappy's

1393
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: coming from the front side, right, and he did in

1394
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: the overtime period, he did. He did grow the game away, honestly,

1395
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: And I am just I understand that Mac has not

1396
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: played terrific football in the first three weeks of the season.

1397
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: But if any buddy, any objective observer, watches the three

1398
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: first three games of the year, especially the Pittsburgh and

1399
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, and then watches what Bailey's Appy put

1400
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: on tape against Green Bay and thinks that that's close.

1401
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't understand I'm gonna play

1402
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: the other seven. You don't under like I. I deal

1403
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: with these fans during the game. Harris is doing well,

1404
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: Stevens is doing well, what about Pierre Strong. It's like

1405
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: it's always the next guy, right, like right, So that's

1406
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say to Evans point. I can

1407
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: kind of understand why people are excited about Bailey's appy,

1408
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: even though I agree everything what you just said. I

1409
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: understand that people said, well, he went in the game

1410
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: and we were in lambeau Field and it's twenty four

1411
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 1: to twenty four run overtime, and he's the guy quarterback

1412
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: the whole game. So I get that. What I don't

1413
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: get is the mac Jones attack that has happened in

1414
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, Like people saying, you think

1415
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: Max Ankle's feeling better now, No, I think if he

1416
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: had that on his mind at all, it be the opposite.

1417
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what's going to replace me my

1418
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: ankle I might need in a couple extra weeks. Now,

1419
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: I know that's not what he's doing. He's gonna try

1420
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: to get back out there I as fast as he can.

1421
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: But I've gotten a lot of people interact with me

1422
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: to tell me mac Jones is one bad, one more

1423
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: bad performance away from getting yanked. I agree with Evan,

1424
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: you think there's anything comparable to what Mac Jones did

1425
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,919
Speaker 1: against Baltimore and what Bailey Zappy didn't Green Bay blinded

1426
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: by the immense pleasant surprise. Also, it is more about Mac, right,

1427
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: This is more about how the fan base currently and

1428
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: I should've been because it's just people like the minority

1429
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: that's loud right like, it's just people on Twitter and

1430
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: people that call into the show is like ours like that.

1431
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily everybody but the people that we are

1432
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: hearing right now. I think it's more about Mac and

1433
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: maybe his lack of progression in year two and the

1434
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't taken a massive leap forward, and

1435
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 1: I think to do with Bailey Zappy. But I'll just

1436
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: go to one play, third down in overtime. Everybody's getting

1437
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: on them for not going forward, getting on them for

1438
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: the sequence of plays that led up to that point.

1439
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: It's got Hunter Henry wide open in front of him.

1440
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a clean pocket. Yeah, all he's gotta do is

1441
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: throw a five yard slant and the first on that play,

1442
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: though Evan, I was looking at that, you know from

1443
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: the all twenty two of you, it did seem like

1444
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: in front of him was a little congested. He may

1445
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: not have had the passing lane that people thought. So

1446
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: I agree part of the problem Henry was open. I

1447
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: agree with that, but I don't think he had a

1448
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: clear lane to him. That's they brought some pressure, right,

1449
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: they brought a five man rush and they stunted it

1450
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: up front and he felt it. And that's when you

1451
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: see the spin move and right. The whole thing is

1452
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: because he felt the pressure coming. But actually the guy

1453
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: that made the great block was from Andre rmandre Is.

1454
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: Stevenson stands up the looper in the hole and he

1455
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: keeps the pocket clean and Zappie panicked. Yeah, he flat

1456
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: out panicked. And it's okay. He's a third string quarterback

1457
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: in his first ever edifation, Like I'm not saying it,

1458
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to crap all over the kids say,

1459
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: and it's I'm glad that Evan's here to say because

1460
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: I think Mike and I were taken some heat for like,

1461
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: if you want to just say he stepped off the

1462
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: bench completely on tests as a rookie fourth round pick,

1463
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: as the third stringer, and say he you know the train,

1464
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't you know go spiraling off the tracks, right, that's accurate.

1465
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: But now if we're going to compare them to an

1466
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, whatever it is saying is accurate too. Yeah,

1467
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: that's all I am saying. I am comparing Bailey Zappy,

1468
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: not judging his performance, because in a vacuum what he

1469
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 1: did on Sunday was admirable. He went out there, he

1470
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, he didn't throw the game away when the

1471
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: open throws were really there, like the Parker touchdown at

1472
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: the Agalore passed later on in the game. He made

1473
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: the easy throws that they made presented to him. But

1474
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: when they needed a play in overtime and it was

1475
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: there to be made, he didn't make the play. And

1476
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee you on that third and five, they set

1477
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: it up, they have the stack alignment to his left,

1478
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: they get Hunter Henry off the line of scrimmage out

1479
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: of the stack, he's wide open right in front of him.

1480
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: Mac makes that throw ten times out of ten. And

1481
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: that's just the difference is it's comparing him to mac Jones.

1482
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily comparing the situation and saying that he

1483
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: didn't live up to it or anything like that. But this,

1484
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: this kind of push or campaign all of a sudden

1485
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: that Bailey Zappy might be better than Jones's future. To

1486
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: me is what has been kind of surprising. And you

1487
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: guys know, I am sort of in the middle on

1488
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I think he's good. I don't know what

1489
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: he is long term, Yeah, but I don't have any

1490
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: questions what he is long term in comparison to Bailey Zappy. Yeah,

1491
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: at least just not based off of what we saw

1492
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: inside now. Yeah, I mean maybe, right, maybe Bailey ZAPPI

1493
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: gets a whole year in the system and he gets

1494
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little stronger. He's a small guy. Yeah, yeah,

1495
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: And I found like, for me, like, I'm more excited

1496
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: for Mac to come back now because it's just it

1497
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: seems like they're continuing to progress and let's get our

1498
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: guy back. You're going to be excited no matter what

1499
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: ends up. Probably true, Probably true. Probably, I mean that's

1500
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: what you hope though, right is that? Okay? You know

1501
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: the past defense I wrote about it yesterday. Their past

1502
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: defense right now, by pretty much every single important metric

1503
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: at least is top ten in the league. Right their

1504
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: top ten in DVOA, top ten and EPA per drop

1505
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: back like they are a good past defense. They're limitating

1506
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: explosive plays down the field. It takes Aaron Rodgers dropping

1507
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: three dimes on them to get the ball down the

1508
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: field on their past defense. So they have a good

1509
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: past defense. They have a good running game if you

1510
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: can clean up some of the other areas. Like, they

1511
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: don't have to be the best run defense in the league,

1512
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: but they can't be three first in the league either, right,

1513
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: So you gotta get that better. You gotta hopefully get

1514
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: the offensive line in the right tackle situation figured out.

1515
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: If you get those things just marginally better and then

1516
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: you drop NAC back in, now you might be building

1517
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: up to something. I mean, I think that's the hope.

1518
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any fear, you know, I want to

1519
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: ask a couple of questions. Want I wanted to ask

1520
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: your opinion on Brian Hoyer in that game speed Are

1521
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: you still there? Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, it's like you're

1522
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: on the show. All right, Well, thanks for the call,

1523
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: pre but Brian Hoyer, like, let's let's say, you know,

1524
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: we're going to hypothetical and Brian Hoyer didn't get a concussion,

1525
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: but you know he had to leave the game for

1526
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And he's available this weekend, wouldn't you feel better?

1527
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: Like just yeah, right, I would because because that, to

1528
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: me is more of a question than mac Jones. I

1529
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: don't think anybody rationally would say I'd rather have Bailey

1530
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: Zappy than mac Cols. But the question is, would anybody

1531
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: rather to have Bailey Zappy than Brian Hoyer? And I

1532
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would rather have Zappy. I

1533
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't The zappy love is out of control, Yeah, it's

1534
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: it's just shiny. Yeah. But Hoyer in that game, I

1535
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: thought he made two catchable throws under pressure. The first

1536
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: one Aglar caught, He's wide open. He ran that you know,

1537
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: post corner and broke away from man coverage is wide open,

1538
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: and he did get barreled down by Rashan Garry's first

1539
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: beat of isaih Win was off the right side and

1540
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: Hoyer was able to make a throw. I actually thought

1541
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: the throw on third down to Hunter Henry was also catchable,

1542
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: and I thought Henry could have made better adjustment along

1543
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: the sideline there to pull that ball, and he kind

1544
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: of tried to one hand it and didn't really one

1545
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: hand it. So I thought that one to the left

1546
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: sideline third down right drive right before Brian Hoyer gets

1547
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: knocked out of the game. It wasn't a great pass,

1548
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: but he was under pressure. Again. It wasn't a great pass,

1549
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: but I thought it was catchable, and you know, I

1550
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: thought Hunter Henry could have made a little bit of

1551
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: a better adjustment on it. So I didn't think that

1552
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer threw the ball poorly or played poorly at Yeah,

1553
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: I would agree, and we had talked about it earlier.

1554
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: He just like he allows you to use your playbook,

1555
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: like you can run your offense with Brian Hoyer and

1556
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: not say, well, we can't do these things with Brian,

1557
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what Bailey Zappy has at his

1558
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: disposal right now. What I saw on Sunday was, you know,

1559
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: three coaches really sort of coaxing him through the game. Yeah.

1560
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean after the game, I asked him about the

1561
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: post crosser play that hit it for the touchdown of

1562
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: Parker and then they agalor throws two downfield throws were

1563
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: off the same concept, and he said, yeah, when I

1564
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: went in the game, you know, whoever was Patricia Judge

1565
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: comes out, you know, probably came up to him and said,

1566
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: what are the three four or five pass plays you

1567
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: feel good about, Like if I call this, are you

1568
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: going to feel good about running? And he said that

1569
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: that was at the top of his list that he

1570
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: felt really good about. The off play actions, you know,

1571
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: that type of throw. So that play, I think, and

1572
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe two or three other route concepts were pretty much

1573
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: the whole playbook was zappy under center. A lot of

1574
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: it was play action, A lot of it was, I think,

1575
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: what they'll probably try to do this week against the Lions,

1576
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that under center play action,

1577
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe move the pocket a little bit more, try to

1578
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: get him some easy throws. That that was sort of

1579
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: go to my second one later we can go to

1580
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: the car. All right, let's go to Eddie and Florida.

1581
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: What's up Eddie? Eddie? Hey, guys, all right, all right,

1582
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: so I got some lightning round trivia football after my comment.

1583
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: But Dappy being the shiny new toy, it's kind of

1584
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: getting ridiculous. And if it's Hoy versus Dappy, come on,

1585
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: you're talking no experience to right start experience. I know, uh.

1586
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: And if it comes to Matt Jones, it's a no brainer.

1587
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, true ridiculous. You would think yeah. I think

1588
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: everyone here are yeah, yeah, no pushback? Is that it? No,

1589
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: he's got lightning thing? All right, don't rain on my career,

1590
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: all right? Go Can you hear me? Yes? Alex is

1591
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: waiting for the questions she wants to chime in. I

1592
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: got terrible reception right now. I'm going to try and

1593
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: plug it into my car. Jez, we can hear you. Fine,

1594
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: just just talk say words. Yeah, can you hear me? Fine? Yeah,

1595
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, we lost them, Eddie, I'll have I

1596
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Maybe you can call. I

1597
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: think he plugs something in and lost us. Yeah, whatever

1598
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: they did, just get hit by hurricane. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1599
01:21:55,200 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: Patty's an agawams Patty? What's going on? Eumby one? Hey,

1600
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: I got a question for a round table, and I

1601
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: got a question specifically just for Revans. Don't get offended

1602
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: everyone else, but don't block him in no block question

1603
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: I want to throw out there to everybody, is um,

1604
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: do you think um going forward to the rest of

1605
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: the season that they're gonna keep Cannon in as ray

1606
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: tackle unless they've run that that big you know they

1607
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: run with the extra touch offensive linemen as the tight

1608
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: end because it win to me. I mean, like, I

1609
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: don't think he was bad the first few seasons when

1610
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: he was healthy, but he just looks like he's blocked

1611
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: a few miles per hour on his proverbial fastball. And Evan,

1612
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: the question for you, what are you seeing on film

1613
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: on first and borrow more that that's making him sort

1614
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: of not stand out this season or what is he

1615
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: doing or what is he not doing? Tah, he's getting

1616
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: double team lot. He's definitely getting a lot of extra attention,

1617
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: which he got extra attention last year as well. But

1618
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: I think you know he's in that Adam Butler role

1619
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the time where they're just asking him

1620
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: to occupy guys and take on multiple blockers, and a

1621
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of the pressure that they're getting is because either

1622
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: the outside guys get one on ones or they're stunting

1623
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: the line and he's the penetrator and somebody's wrapping around

1624
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: him and he's taken on two guys. His role this

1625
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: year is not hasn't at least yet. Ben, We're gonna

1626
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: hunt one on ones for Christian Barmore and let him

1627
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: eat like he's been playing more of a team role.

1628
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: I guess is the way to that I can best

1629
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: describe it. Whereas if you go and you turn on

1630
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City tape and you watch Chris Jones or Rams

1631
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: tape and you watch Aaron Donald like they are hunting

1632
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: one on one matchups, like we're gonna put him at

1633
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: the three technique, we're gonna put him at the five,

1634
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna put him on the nose, and we're gonna

1635
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: try to get him situations where he's one on one.

1636
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: With bar Moore, it's more of a team approach with

1637
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: him right now. I thought some of his run defense

1638
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: table was a little bit better. He gets reached sometimes

1639
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: an outside zone, and I'm sure that that he'll work

1640
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: on that. But so a lot of the things that

1641
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: you see in the pass rush with him is he's

1642
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: going through either a true double team because he's trying

1643
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: to get double teamed, or he's got a one on one,

1644
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: but then the center slides right, so the center will

1645
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: look for work and then come out of nowhere and

1646
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: kind of clean him out from his ear hole. And

1647
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: those are the things that you have routinely seen through

1648
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: the first four weeks, and I think it takes some

1649
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 1: time too for a younger player like him to learn

1650
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: how to deal with the extra attention, right, I don't

1651
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: think he's quite figured that out yet. Of Okay, just

1652
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: because I'm getting doubled, I still need to get to

1653
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback somehow. I still need to make an impact,

1654
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: and I think there might be a little bit of

1655
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: a learning curve going on there. I've just got a

1656
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: lot of philosophical questions about this, and I hear everything

1657
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 1: you're saying, and it's just I think like the topic

1658
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: then is like is this the best thing for the

1659
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: defense to continue? And I mean this is what DeMarcus

1660
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: Covington's as anytime you ask him about his guys, his group,

1661
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: it's you got to take one for the team essentially.

1662
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I think we all felt like we're

1663
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: sitting on a player here who maybe not Aaron Donald

1664
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: or Chris Jones, but at the very least if you

1665
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: could get him isolated on some one on one matchups,

1666
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: that's a tough, tough matchup for the offensive line. How

1667
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 1: do you learn to dominate within this kind of setup

1668
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: where they're asking so much of you? You know, and

1669
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: does can this player like I understand Richard Seymour, Vince Wilford,

1670
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 1: they can dominate while being asked to take on double

1671
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: teams and they can split them and they have the strength.

1672
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, like, are we doing Christian Barmore and the

1673
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: defense a disservice by not trying to build more around him.

1674
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: It's hard because on the one hand, Judon and Dietrich

1675
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 1: Wise are eating right. I mean, they both of them

1676
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: are one of the best in terms of tandems in

1677
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: the league. They are up there with in terms of sacks,

1678
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: pressure is all that sort of stuff. So they're getting

1679
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: all the one on ones and they're taking advantage of them.

1680
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: So on the one hand, you're like, Okay, well, the

1681
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: team approaches working because Barmore is getting doubled on the interior,

1682
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: it's leaving the tackles one on one on the outside

1683
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: and those guys are getting sacks and getting pressures. But

1684
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: on the other hand, like you said, there's only so

1685
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: many players that are on Christian Barmore's talent level on

1686
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: this roster, and would it be nice to see him

1687
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: be able to go one on one a little bit more?

1688
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: I would say yes. Now, I think the biggest issue

1689
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: that he has is that in this system, it's a

1690
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: gap control system, right, So if you have the A gap,

1691
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: you got the A gap. And if he's getting double teamed,

1692
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: he can't go out of his gap, right because he's

1693
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: got to keep his rush laye integrity. But he also

1694
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 1: needs to be to double team. So it's he's kind

1695
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: of in a tough spot, right, So they're not going

1696
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: to allow him or they don't want him to go

1697
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: from A to B just because he sees a double

1698
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: team in a right. They just would rather him take

1699
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: the double team. And that I think is something that's

1700
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: more philosophical and schematic about what they like to do. Well.

1701
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: You said last week when we were talking about the

1702
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: Rams Super Bowl, hearing Bill say, get up field, get

1703
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: up field. You know, is that situationally, do you think

1704
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: we can get them going a little like I mean, yeah,

1705
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: not a true Shanahan offense. Maybe this week, but like, yeah,

1706
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean last week against Green Bay, which is a

1707
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Shanahanny offense for sure. Against outside zone, what they were

1708
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: trying to do is they were trying to force the cutback, right,

1709
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: So they're just firing Juwan Bentley into the line of scrimmage,

1710
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: setting the edge of the defense and then forcing the

1711
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: runner to cut back through the middle of the defense.

1712
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: For the reason why Jamie Collins this year is because

1713
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: the linebackers weren't making the tackles. Yeah, there's these gaping

1714
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: holes and they weren't making the tackles. So I was

1715
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: a little bit surprised that they weren't getting more vertical,

1716
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: as you were saying, more up the field against those

1717
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: But again, you know, that was sort of the game

1718
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: plan was, We're not going to let them get the edge.

1719
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: That's what we're going to take away. We're going to

1720
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: force it back into the teeth of the defense, and

1721
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: we are going to count on our linebackers and our

1722
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: safeties to make tackles. And the linebackers just didn't have

1723
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: a very good game. And I thought they struggled. I mean,

1724
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: Mike and I sort of disagreed a little bit on

1725
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I thought they struggled up front, especially in

1726
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 1: the first half. I thought they got pushed around a

1727
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: little bit, and that was kind of across the board.

1728
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Judean was really good in the game. I thought he

1729
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: was a constant force. It's been good all year. Yeah, um,

1730
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean for as great as Dietrich wise

1731
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: has been. I think in the first three games. I

1732
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: thought he was invisible in that game. Um and I

1733
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: thought they ran with with with pretty good success throughout

1734
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: the game and on both sides. Well, it was one

1735
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: play downfield. It was a running play and uh wise

1736
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: was in pursuit, so it was about seven yards downfield

1737
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: and he tried to make a tackle. He bounced off

1738
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: the pile like it was one of those like and

1739
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: he was airborne. Did any of you guys see the

1740
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: Twitter clip that was making the rounds of the Broncos

1741
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: offensive lineman trying to get the Raiders scoop and score

1742
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: fumble touchdown. He got inside the five and he was

1743
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: close enough to dive, but he just sort of jumped

1744
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: up on the ground in the pathetic. It's like when

1745
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: when those guys, like I'm those guys just try to

1746
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: steal second and they slide and they're like in a

1747
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: five yards short of the bag. You know, It's like

1748
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: it looked like it was funny. Oh man, that close though,

1749
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: you just like there's like I just I think he

1750
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: just said to himself, I can't just run right, I

1751
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: better lay to the I better layout right. But he

1752
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: laid out so awkwardly that it it was it was pathetic,

1753
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Tim and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan rights in. I

1754
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: had a quick question, why what don't you like about

1755
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Bailey's appy? It seems you guys sound down on him,

1756
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: and I'll admit I didn't really watch him in camp,

1757
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: but in my opinion, he seems more confident than Mac

1758
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, and follows through with a few

1759
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: throws we've seen him make in the last game. I'm

1760
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: probably misreading this, but I'd love to hear your opinion.

1761
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Do you guys think there's any chance he could be

1762
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: really good? I haven't seen it yet. I mean, I

1763
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: just I don't know there's something I have against him.

1764
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think he's a rookie fourth round

1765
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: pick who wasn't really ready to play, And even going

1766
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: back to camp, there wasn't a whole lot that you

1767
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: saw from him this summer that made you say, oh

1768
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: there's something. I mean, I think he's looked fine. I

1769
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: thought he had some moments on the practice field. I

1770
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: don't think he looked very good in the preseason games.

1771
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather him look good in the practice field than

1772
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: the preseason games. I've said that many times, So I

1773
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: mean this, I think there's some things I just don't

1774
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: know about the skill set. I don't know how I

1775
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: don't know much better he's going to get at six

1776
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: one wink, and having very average mobility and very average

1777
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: arm strength. I don't know how much better he's gonna get.

1778
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: I have to say that I heard them busting his

1779
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: chops about six one. I think he is six one

1780
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: because I'm about five to eleven and a half six

1781
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: feet and he's definite. I was standing next to him

1782
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: last week in the locker room and he's definitely a

1783
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: little taller than I am. I was laughing because they

1784
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: were like, he's like his draft profile, Like, dude, we

1785
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: all we read all the stuff. I had to write

1786
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: his draft profile when we got him in like I

1787
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: think it was Lance Zeroline. It's like, you know, short

1788
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: stop pocket passer, and I'm like, what, it's my high

1789
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: school career, short stocky pocket passer. I got a shot.

1790
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't see I don't

1791
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: see what these people are seeing, like out of that game.

1792
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: It's just that you are confident taking a fifteen yards sack,

1793
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: like I think people really and this is kind of

1794
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: like the offense thing he didn't know enough to be scared.

1795
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: But I think he I mean, I kind of agree whatever.

1796
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: And I think there were plenty of times where he

1797
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: kind of looks Yeah, I think he looked confused. But yeah,

1798
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: but like I mean, I just don't know what that means. Expectations.

1799
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: I think everybody thought this kid's gonna go out there

1800
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: and he's so not ready, it's going to be a disaster.

1801
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: And it wasn't, you know. And I have to admit

1802
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance that you could turn

1803
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: it over a bunch of times and he didn't. Yeah,

1804
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: And that's why I give Patricia and Judge and a

1805
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: for that game, because I think they weren't going to

1806
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: let it be a disaster. I think they managed him

1807
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: really well. There were three or four plays and I

1808
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: mentioned the one in overtime, which is probably obviously the

1809
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: biggest one. There are at least three or four players

1810
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: where he leaves a clean pocket. There's an open receiver

1811
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: downfield and he just leaves the pocket. You know. It's

1812
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: like it's like the offense. I think people heard all

1813
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: of our talk about practice every day and kind of thought,

1814
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: we're not even going to get to fourth down, to

1815
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: be able to punt right, like this is gonna be

1816
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get a couple

1817
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: of first downs. But it's like, Ohfich is better than

1818
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah, Like they got to the red zone

1819
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: once once with Bailey's at one time, they got to

1820
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,600
Speaker 1: the red zone once with Bailey Zappy playing quarterback, and

1821
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: it's like, I wasn't expecting him to do that. Okay, well,

1822
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 1: I think this might be an expectation problem now because

1823
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: it's an NFL team and scoring seventeen points shouldn't be

1824
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility, right, But I think

1825
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: he did that, and everybody's like, wow, is he better

1826
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: than Mac Jones? Now, I feel like I'm being overly

1827
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: defensive of Mac Jones and I'm already looke forwarm on him. Yeah,

1828
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm bashing Bailey Zappy because I'm

1829
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: just trying to and I'm not telling people what is

1830
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: actually going on with him, and it's it's just crazy

1831
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: to me that more confident than Mac Jones. First three

1832
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: games of the season, Mac Jones led the league in

1833
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 1: deep passes. I take nothing away from Bailey's How much

1834
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: more confidence do you want him to be? Then? To

1835
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the fields like right, uh, Antoine

1836
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: and Montreal. Thanks for the show. Gives me the best

1837
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: alternate to all the hockey talk that happens up, which

1838
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: might might love anyway, maybe it'll seem uninformed, but I

1839
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: don't watch much college football, and all I based myself

1840
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: on are the stats, which, to Paul's point, doesn't always

1841
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: mean much. But how does a guy like Zappy have

1842
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: all these records passing the ball in college but doesn't

1843
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: translate to the pros? I mean, to throw for six

1844
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: thousand yards? He must have had some talent or vision

1845
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: or something. Same thing happened to Kellen Moore, who had

1846
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: all these records at Boise State and then was struggling

1847
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Calvin Johnson in the pros.

1848
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: This is a very This is a whole This is

1849
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: a whole essay. I could write on on that question,

1850
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: but it's look in college, he's at Western Kentucky first

1851
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: of all, so it's not like he's playing Alabama and

1852
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: joy rig and you know, an SEC schedule every single week.

1853
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: But Western Kentucky they ran as modern of an offense

1854
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: as you'll ever see. They were spread, they were four

1855
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: or five wide all the time and they just aired

1856
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: it out. I mean he had not only did he

1857
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: break the passing record in terms of yards, I think

1858
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 1: he also broke the passing record in terms of attempts.

1859
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: So he's he's throwing the ball six hundred times. You

1860
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 1: know it's it was a full on air raid offense

1861
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,600
Speaker 1: where just spread the field and chuck it and he

1862
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: was good at it. He was, which largely has not

1863
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: translated to the NFL. Patrick Mahomes notwithstanding, Yeah, a lot

1864
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: of Texas Tech quarterbacks weren't able to do when Mahomes

1865
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: is done, But wat should that be? Throw the ball?

1866
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: It seemed like it had more zip to it. When

1867
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: Mac throws some passes, I find myself sighing in relief

1868
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: when a receiver catches it, just looking to understand. And

1869
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: I think, if Mac can play, you go with him.

1870
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. I'm hoping the time off gives

1871
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Max some time to unwind. He looks so stressed to

1872
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: start the season. Mac looks stress. I don't know. This

1873
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: is all making me want Mac back more and more.

1874
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: You'd like to see what it actually looks like. But

1875
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: the zip thing too bothers me. All this bothers me obviously,

1876
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: because because I don't know what people are watching, I

1877
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know what they're seeing in the zip twenty five

1878
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: yard floated to Parker or the twenty yard floated and which,

1879
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: by the way, if he throws that ball in a

1880
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: line to Agalore, it's also a touchdown. But he tried to.

1881
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: He lost to get killed the linebacker who's ten yards

1882
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: in front of Agalore. He's so petrified of of throwing

1883
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: the ball to the linebacker instead of Agalore that he

1884
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: puts all the air under it. But the ZIP thing

1885
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: all like, because that's all just in your eyes, right,

1886
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: that's all subjective. It's just all what you your eye

1887
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: test is telling you. Where you don't have there is data,

1888
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: but they don't really share the data on velocity yet, right,

1889
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: we don't really have velocity of throws and things like that. Yeah,

1890
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 1: we have air a distance, but not velocity. But that's

1891
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: all what your eyes are telling you. And I think

1892
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, they just want their eyes

1893
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: to tell them certain things. That Bailey is appy has

1894
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: got this cannon compared to Mac Jones. Neither guy has

1895
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: a kid. Now, I'll both guys have below average arm

1896
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: talent yep, UM's Eddie's gonna give it another shot, Florida.

1897
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: What's up, Eddie? You have the trivia questions ready, Yeah,

1898
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: it's all set. Okay, there you go. I got good reception. Nice,

1899
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: all right, Paul, this is gonna have to be a

1900
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: lightning round. I don't want to take up too much

1901
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: you guys this time. But it's seventies and eighties Patriots.

1902
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: It's I'm gonna let you choose with a number. I

1903
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: set it up where I give you the number, you

1904
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: give me the name of the seventies and eighties Patriots. Okay,

1905
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: twenty four of them will fly through and you get

1906
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 1: three at the end. Okay, want either way, whatever you

1907
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: have it set up, just let them, let them flip.

1908
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: You switch them up along the way, all right, I will,

1909
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll switch it up, all right. Forty eight, Tim Fox fifty,

1910
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: Why shout, I'll pass pass on that one. Oh, Sam Hunt,

1911
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: Sam Hunt forty Stam Hunt good? Forty two? Um we

1912
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: going eighties two. Ronnie Lapette, M sorry, that was the

1913
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: seventies one. That's my bad, because forty two is more

1914
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: associated with Lappette gave himself the buzzer. Okay, I thought

1915
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna whip did you get forty two? Though it

1916
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: wasn't Ronnie Lapette, Oh, mac Herron, mac Heron mac all right,

1917
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: it's the world's original. Thirty one, Fred Marion, fifty two,

1918
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: Johnny remember ninth seventies twelve Matt Kavanaugh, I haven't even

1919
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: heard of nine fifty nine, fifty nine, fifty nine five nine.

1920
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,759
Speaker 1: I'mnna have to pass on that one one, all right? Clayton?

1921
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Why s what was that was that one? Twenty six?

1922
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Ray Clayborne? Sixty sixty is? Uh? What was Pete Brott?

1923
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to pass on that one too. Thirty eight,

1924
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 1: eighty thirty eight, Horace Ivory, No, no, Ike Forte? Who's that? Okay?

1925
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: He Surefi Forte was wore that in the seventies. But

1926
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: the eighties it was Roland James. Then I thought it

1927
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 1: was a seventies thirty eight in the eighties, Roland James

1928
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Kay thirty mossy seventy eight in the seventies. All right,

1929
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Tom Neville, we'll give you in paul A Show later.

1930
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: All right, how many of those did I get wrong? Uh?

1931
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 1: You got most of them right, Okay, He's gonna go

1932
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: with fifty three. Laugh. That's Clayton wy Shoon. Okay, I

1933
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: knew he was in there somewhere. He's like the Randomphis. Great,

1934
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks Eddie, but unbelievable all remembers all those guys. Um, Yeah,

1935
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: so I have This is the other question I had

1936
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: for Evan. You talked about the past defense. Ye would you,

1937
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: um in your mind try to be trying not to

1938
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: use the numbers for you for this? Do you think

1939
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: that their statistics are more based on the fact that

1940
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: they've played what I would say a three subpar passing

1941
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: games out of four weeks so far with pitt Pittsburgh,

1942
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Green Bay. I wouldn't put Baltimore in that category.

1943
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: They've been thrown well. But even when they throw it,

1944
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: they don't throw it for a ton of yards. They're

1945
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna your numbers are gonna be good. And that's all.

1946
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: It's about his stats. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers,

1947
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: no matter what way you cut it. Yeah. And if

1948
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 1: Romeo dops catches the ball, not very good number. I

1949
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: would say that you can't throw what he catch it too?

1950
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: Was I hear you, I would say that I'm still

1951
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: You're still cautious about it, right, because yeah, I don't think.

1952
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't think their secondary. I think their numbers look

1953
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: a lot better than their play. So I'm impressed by

1954
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: the amount how few coverage busts I've seen in four games,

1955
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: Like they don't bust coverages. Jack Jones did bust the coverage,

1956
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: but he's a rookie, will give him a break. Is

1957
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: one time. I think I could probably count on one

1958
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: hand how many times they've truly busted a coverage like

1959
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 1: a guy's going in the wrong place or you know,

1960
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. I would agree with that, Like,

1961
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: like there's against Miami had just bust correct, haven't seen that, right, Age,

1962
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. So what I like about

1963
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: what you know I'm getting at is that in order

1964
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots secondary, you gotta beat the Patriots

1965
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: secondary like Rogers did in the second half dropping three

1966
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: dimes down the field, like you can't. They're not just

1967
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: giving it to you, And that I can, I can behind.

1968
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I also like in this Tay and Age, limiting an

1969
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: explosive plays is the name of the game. Every coach

1970
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: you talk to, that's all. They just don't want to

1971
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 1: give up the chunk plays because you're the rate in

1972
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: which you score improves exponentially if you get a twenty

1973
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: plus yard play, whether it's on the ground, order through

1974
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: the year. So they're not giving up big plays and

1975
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: they're making you earn the yards. Now, are they a

1976
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: dominant secondary? Is this you know, hand At eighteen nineteen

1977
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: or the Legion of Boom or something like that. No,

1978
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: certainly not. But they're making you earn it. And I

1979
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: think what we saw it at Jack Jones, who had

1980
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: an up and down game. I know, the turnovers really

1981
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: stand out, and the pick six was was really good technique.

1982
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: But I think overall what you saw at Jack Jones

1983
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: is really positive. And not to pick on the person

1984
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: that everybody else picks on, but if someday down the road,

1985
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: Miles Bryant is the odd man out and it ends

1986
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: up being the Joneses and Jalen Mills, I think that

1987
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: that secondary looks really really good on paper, especially with

1988
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 1: how good they are at safety. So is it as

1989
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: good as the numbers suggests. Maybe not, But I think

1990
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: that the fact that they challenge you and make you

1991
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 1: earn the yards instead of just these other defenses that

1992
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 1: bus coverages all the time. I like that about their secondary.

1993
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred and North Carolina. Hey, Eldred, Hey,

1994
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: fellows and lady, how you doing. Hello Eldred. Hey, I'm

1995
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: sorry about yesterday. I got pulled over the waste station

1996
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: doing me and the cop talking, Oh yeah, did you

1997
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: have all your papers? You have to keep it low? Yeah,

1998
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 1: on my paperwork. Yeah. Hey know what I'm talking. How

1999
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: to keep it low, aren't you? Yeah, it's something to

2000
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: get through those long drives. I was a short driver.

2001
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm local, but you still gotta go to a waste station. Yeah. Yeah.

2002
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: So that was that on that though, but I got

2003
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: a question off something that means a couple of guys around.

2004
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: He was kicking around about the Patriots. This we got

2005
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: because we didn't keep legend by the go buy him

2006
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: like you don't want to play there? And pet Brown,

2007
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 1: I want to play on the left side. Do you

2008
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: think it's the issue with the money because they slopped

2009
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: We know if I'm on the right side, I'm not

2010
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: gonna get the contract with the lift that and Brown

2011
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: want to be on the right side, but not to

2012
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: lift side because he's not getting paid for the left side.

2013
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: Could be my money's always a fifty. Brown has played

2014
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: a lot better. I think, you know, after the first game, awesome,

2015
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: he was really good. He's out there flexing, But I'm

2016
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: sure he wants to get paid left tackle money, jumping

2017
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: those snaps. He wants to get played the left tackle money.

2018
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: If he plays like he did on Sunday, He's gonna

2019
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: get paid left tackle money. Isaiah Win's thing. God help

2020
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: whoever does. I don't think olough. He's a two year

2021
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 1: deal regardless of if he's left or right. First of all,

2022
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: right tackles get paid now too, not quite as much

2023
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: as left tackles do, but they still get paid. And

2024
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: he's in a contract year. I mean, I just there's

2025
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: no incentive to me for Isaiah Win to mail it

2026
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: in like hell, But I think, but I wonder how

2027
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 1: he feels about this decision and how he feels about

2028
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,560
Speaker 1: being a right tackle. That's that's my thing, not so

2029
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: much like I'm not playing the right tackle. I mean,

2030
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: is it harder to just switch? It is hard? I think,

2031
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going into my free agent year and

2032
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm asked to be playing a patient I've never played,

2033
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 1: and I don't like one. Right, I don't know that's

2034
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: what I say to kick out this way. I think

2035
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: it's the footwork right, because I mean their hand placement

2036
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: stuff is obviously opposite as well. But your post foot

2037
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: and your outside foot are now different feet. So the

2038
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: foot you're driving off of when you're kicking out to

2039
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: slide and pass protections are different. It's the opposite foot.

2040
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: So your whole life, you're training the your your right

2041
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 1: foot on the left side to be your stronger foot

2042
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: and be that really that driving foot, and now they're

2043
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 1: asking you to drive off your left foot, and it's

2044
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: a completely different technique at that point. So I do

2045
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: wonder about about that a lot. The pre snap stuff too, though,

2046
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: Like that's not you know, that's the stuff where it's

2047
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: like you're mentally engaged, like you're jumping the snap. I

2048
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: mean multiple times penalties. I mean, how many penalties he's

2049
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: had at this point. Well, you know, the more you

2050
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: have to think about, the more you are apt to

2051
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: make those pre snap mistakes, you know. Yeah, I mean

2052
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: it couldn't have no excuse on his part. I just

2053
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: wonder what the whole process was with this whole switch,

2054
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 1: And I mean I think it goes back to we've

2055
01:44:58,120 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: talked about it, but I mean, it's as I say it,

2056
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: when nobody ever considered he would move to right tackle

2057
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: like that was came out of nowhere. I think I'm

2058
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: assuming it came out of my Yeah, well that was

2059
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: with him was an all pro guard right on the left,

2060
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: a third tight end. Yeah yeah, I still like, yeah, good.

2061
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, but Paul, I agree with I

2062
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: agree with Hardy and then uh and then over time

2063
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: win overtime laud Why didn't you just you know, I

2064
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: know you don't want to push the kid, but why

2065
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 1: did you get to a play action and then moved

2066
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: about we kicking the game and winning instead of watching

2067
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,560
Speaker 1: hair and come back? In retrospect, yeah, I mean, I

2068
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: would have thought you'd be able to line up three

2069
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 1: times run it for a first down. The other way

2070
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: you ran it all game, But in retrospect, I wish

2071
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: we had taken a shot. No, I can't lie from

2072
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: from the TV. Thing from from the couch and my

2073
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: girlfriend to me be quiet because I had the baby

2074
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: custom too, so I was cousin. He was custing market.

2075
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: Good for you add that a boy the next generation cousin. Now, yeah,

2076
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: they ran it for four yards on first down five

2077
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: four or five second and five. Yeah, and yeah, that's

2078
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 1: it's a second guest for sure. Yeah, um Cole and

2079
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 1: Eugene Oregon. I'd like to know why Paul considers Dan

2080
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: Campbell to be the worst coach at football. From what

2081
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: I understand, he started in twenty twenty one with an

2082
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: abysmal Lions team. That's not quite true, though, is it

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: that improved and started winning games at the end of

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01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: the last year. They went from one of the worst

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01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: to one of the best offenses in the league. Statistically,

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01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 1: They developed a young star wide receiver, the quarterback is

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: playing well, and they seem to have built a cohesive

2088
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 1: team identity, fast and loose. As Duke says, what's with

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01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 1: all the hate for Dan Campbell? Paul, good question. He's

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01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: four sixteen and one is the Lion's head coach. But

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01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: they play hard for him, probably hard for him. I

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01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks, I really, I mean, I thought at

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: first he seems like kind of a caricature of of this,

2094
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: but he really lives it. And and I think that

2095
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 1: the guys see that there's certainly fast and loose on

2096
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. But I mean, how

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01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: can you not and again doing we're working, so we're

2098
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 1: not watching play by play of every Lions game. I

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01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: can tell you someone who does watch play by play

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01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: of every Lions game. Hardy No, my good, My good, buddy,

2101
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: Dan Ventura. Okay, okay, Hardy's working with us, so he's

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01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: not watching the game, watches the replay, loves the Lions. Wow.

2103
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,560
Speaker 1: And every week it's the same thing on Twitter. It's like,

2104
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: why are we going for this one? What is he doing?

2105
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 1: He's costing us again, he costs us a chance to

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01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: win the game. That's that happened in the Minnesota game,

2107
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: and it happened to a lesser extent in the Seattle game.

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01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: I think that to give him credit for the offense,

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01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,919
Speaker 1: that's a stretch. It's also been a pretty cupcake schedule defensively,

2110
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean the Seahawks defenses. Philadelphia has been pretty good

2111
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: defensive One that game that really looks good on paper

2112
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 1: for Detroit is that Philadelphia game. But they're running the ball.

2113
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: They're averaging five point nine yards per carry right now.

2114
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: All the six yards to carry and the whole league

2115
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: thing is just you know, I told you guys before

2116
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: two high safety shells load up against the pass playing

2117
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty pound guys at linebacker positions. And

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01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 1: the Lions, and I think the Patriots to an extent

2119
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: to have been kind of going. The league is running

2120
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: the ball, and I would tell you that that's why

2121
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: scoring is down throughout the league. Yeah, I mean past

2122
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 1: everybody's runnings down because teams are playing a lot more

2123
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: of this split safety stuff and building out their defense

2124
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: personnel wise to defend the pass. And now guys like

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01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, even in Bill Belichick, I would say, is

2126
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 1: adhering to this as well as we're just gonna run

2127
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: you over then, And the Lions are So I asked

2128
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: this to the other people on the show. I'll ask you, Evan,

2129
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: if for this game, who would you rather have back

2130
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:55,839
Speaker 1: one hundred percent Lawrence Guy or Hoyer? Lawrence Sky Hoyer. Interesting,

2131
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I would say Lawrence Guy because this is a gap

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01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: downhill attack that the Lions use. They're not zone, they're

2133
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 1: not trying to get outside zone going and stuff like that.

2134
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: They are trap wham power like right downhill at you.

2135
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: So in that type of game, that's a Lawrence Guy

2136
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 1: type of game. Right. You got guys on a lot

2137
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 1: of scrimmage that can take on double teams and be

2138
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: able to hold the point of attack like this is

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01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 1: one of those style of games. So I would say

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01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence guy to that, everybody said guy except Paul. He

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01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: said Hoyer, but I thought I thought he had good

2142
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: reason for I just think that you need to have

2143
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: your offense in this game. I don't think it's realistic

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01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: that you're gonna win this game seventeen thirteen. And I

2145
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of confidence that Bailey z Abby

2146
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 1: can score thirty, right, So I'd rather have a guy

2147
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: who I think, Brian Hoyer against this defense could score thirty. Yeah.

2148
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: Irma in Flint, Michigan. A lot of Michigan listeners and callers,

2149
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 1: writers and callers today, I've been hearing the Zappy talk

2150
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and just wanted to give my opinion as to why

2151
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: people are saying they want to see him. First, people

2152
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: who want to see Zappy over the development of Jones

2153
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: are out of their minds. Jones should be playing when

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01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 1: he's ready. Second, the people who are talking about Zappy

2155
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: over Hoyer, I think just want to take a new

2156
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: toy out of the toy box to see what they've got.

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01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: It seems to me that if you punt on the season,

2158
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 1: some people would rather see the kid versus Horrior, since

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01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: we know that's what hoyer ceiling is. I agree that

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01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,839
Speaker 1: if you're going to be chasing the playoffs, every possible

2161
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: win is important, and Horrier should start. But if you

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01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: would rather see what the kid does, to hell with

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01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: the win total, I can see that too. If you

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01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: lose to Detroit and Cleveland, then I would say sure

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01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: until yeah, until mac Jones is ready, I'd rather see Zappy.

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01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 1: But I still think they were one of three last

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01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: year and made the playoffs. Why can't you do it

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01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: again with all these two and two teams. I think

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: you need to try to win the games, and I

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01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: think Hoyer gives you a better chance to win if

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01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you fall out of it. I would rather see Zappie

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01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: play than than Brian Hoyer. I would agree with the

2173
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: listeners that, yeah, I get it how last year down

2174
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: the stretch has sour people on that whole season. But

2175
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: like you just said, they were one and three and

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01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 1: two and four last year and then they rattle off

2177
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: seven straight wins, they win ten games and make the playoffs.

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01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,839
Speaker 1: Like that is still very much in play. The schedule

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01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 1: from this point on to Thanksgiving is not very difficult.

2180
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing a bunch of teams below five hundred.

2181
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: I think they're ten thirteen and one. The combined record

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01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: of the next six games of those teams have better

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01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 1: records than us. Yes, but you're able to see a

2184
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: path here too. When Nago play Buffalo on Thursday night

2185
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, the Patriots, could they win, you know, six

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01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 1: out of the next seven or even five out of

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: the next seven and get themselves around five hundred to

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01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 1: be back in it. I think the answer is yes. Yeah,

2189
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Juan and Mexico. I'm so sick that some fans saw

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01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: Zappy make two wide open passes and immediately believe he's

2191
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 1: in next Tom Brady. It's the same as last year

2192
01:51:55,680 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 1: over hyping Mack during the winning streak by just being okay, yes,

2193
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: if Thornton gets to play this season, well that uh

2194
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: sentons born to be traded or cut. Yeah. I think

2195
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: that's a great point. It's a really interesting We're going

2196
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: to talk about this on Patriots Catch twenty two. Can't wait.

2197
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I did the market tease, but yeah, when Tayclon comes back,

2198
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 1: I mean they're already playing four wide receivers. There's already

2199
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 1: not enough snaps for Kendrick Bourne's. Now you got five

2200
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You draft the guy in the second round,

2201
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to play him. He's not gonna say

2202
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: he is coming back. Worden's going to come back. He

2203
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been out there a practice today if they

2204
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: didn't think he had a chance to come back. So

2205
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: two's odd man out at this point. You gotta be somebody. Yeah,

2206
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing with two. When you consider Myers

2207
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 1: and Agalore contracts up next year, you think maybe you

2208
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: could turn one of those spots over to him, But

2209
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: how do you get him the snaps now to get

2210
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,799
Speaker 1: them that experience so you feel comfortable maybe letting Aglo

2211
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: wak I mean I said you should keep Myers. I

2212
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 1: think he has a place, but you know you're really

2213
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: in the position now to play Thornton over Agalore. As

2214
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 1: as with anticipation of that, I don't know's it's tough.

2215
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: I've always spending to me, they're best separat I mean,

2216
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: Parker and Agile are both on the first day of camp. Yeah, yeah,

2217
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: that's been I would agree with you. Matt and Devon UK.

2218
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: So I like to win and play to win every

2219
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: game as much as anyone. But do you think we

2220
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: are best off in the long run if we lose

2221
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: the games to teams close to us? I mean this.

2222
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean this as if we keep ending the season

2223
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: with about a five hundred record and picking around twelve

2224
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: to fifteen in the draft, are we ever going to

2225
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 1: get those stud players to really turn this around and

2226
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: get back to contending. I just wonder if we are

2227
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: better off having that one bad season and have a

2228
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: top six or seven pick and able to get a

2229
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: real difference maker. Yeah, think you can get real difference

2230
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 1: makers in the team. And how many teams are picking

2231
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 1: top ten year, Like if you need a quarterback ten

2232
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: if you need a quarterback. If you need a quarterback,

2233
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: then I would say, yeah, maybe they're better off just

2234
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: having a terrible year. I don't think they'll take a

2235
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: quarterback now if they had a top five pick. I

2236
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,560
Speaker 1: don't think they would. I'm telling you why wouldn't. I

2237
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: don't think they would. Why can't you get a really

2238
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: good player at sixteen? You can? You can got Mac Jones,

2239
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Audrey writes in She says, Paul, I think people may

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01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: be confused about how you feel about Zappy because you

2241
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: have clearly said on other days that he has a

2242
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: better arm than Mac, that he was the best arm

2243
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: in camp. I think he does have a better round

2244
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: than Mac. I don't think either one of them has

2245
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: a really good arm. Okay, can we go back to

2246
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 1: the draft question for a second, because my biggest thing

2247
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: with it is, are any of us in this room

2248
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 1: convinced that Bill would actually pick in the top ten

2249
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: and not trade the pick? No, we already talked about

2250
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: that too, because that's gonna I'm all for. You know,

2251
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be right in the middle, if you're

2252
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna be fifteen like they were a few years ago,

2253
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 1: then I'd rather be top ten than be fifteen and

2254
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: not try to, you know, make a push at all.

2255
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: But is he gonna make the pick? Like, if they

2256
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: have the seven picking the in the draft, are they

2257
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 1: making that pick? Well, I mean they might, you know,

2258
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: we when's what's the highest pick they've had in a

2259
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: long time? Ten? Right? Well? Mac was fifteen? Yeah, I

2260
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: mean yeah, Seymour was six. Well, fifteen, It is probably

2261
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: the answer to that question. Yeah, So like we haven't

2262
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: seen it. Like, if I'm sure, if there was someone

2263
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: that Bill loved in the top seven, he would pick

2264
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: the person. But if if he thinks he can get

2265
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: equal value by trading down, he's going to do that.

2266
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the Like I said earlier in the show,

2267
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the currency. I know a lot of

2268
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: people said, what's the sense of having a top five pick.

2269
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: He's not going to use it. Well, he'll use it.

2270
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 1: He just might use it as currency to get more

2271
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 1: picks a little lower. Either way, I'd love to have

2272
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: that high pick. But I feel like that's how we

2273
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: get into this this issue of not having any top

2274
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: end talent. Because if they have a top ten pick

2275
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: and c J. Strout is still on the board and

2276
01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: some team wants to give them the RG three package

2277
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: to move up to draft CJ. Stratt, he's taking it.

2278
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 1: We all know he's taking it. But then when you

2279
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 1: run into the issue is that, Okay, well they just

2280
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: traded seven to trade down to nineteen, and now all

2281
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: the blue chip prospects are off the board at nineteen, right,

2282
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 1: and now you're picking, you know, another another one of

2283
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: those kind of starter caliber players but not actually a

2284
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: difference maker or a blue chip or whatever. You want

2285
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: to call it, but I mean you also have the

2286
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: twenty twelve draft where they, you know, took two guys

2287
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: in the first round that were in the twenties that

2288
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: both ended up being really good. You can get better players,

2289
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 1: So I got it. And I also don't think that

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Speaker 1: it's as easy as you just tank. You have one

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Speaker 1: bad year and then you get an awesome player and

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Speaker 1: then all as well, like there's a lot that goes

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Speaker 1: into losing those you tank and you get that one

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Speaker 1: great player. Unless it that one great players a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. And that's why I said I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 1: in favor of because I'm not sure that they would

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Speaker 1: write like CJ. Stratt, I don't know if they would

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Speaker 1: take him. No, I think that they probably still feel

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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about mac Jones. Yeah I would, as

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in position to get the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback on the draft next year if he would

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Speaker 1: take it, right, But also sorry, Fred, I know you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get the lead up, but like you can't

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Speaker 1: just tank and like everyone's gonna be like, well, we

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Speaker 1: just tanked and now we're all back, Like you're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose guys, You're gonna lose fans, like the whole perception

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Speaker 1: of the team. You start losing to Cleveland's and the

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Speaker 1: detroits of the world, Like it's it's not that simple,

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Speaker 1: it's just we'll lose it. Can get that guy and

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Speaker 1: then oh, you know, we're back on track. Like it's

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Speaker 1: hard and you can do it the other way by

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Speaker 1: hit good players, doesn't matter. I think they're good players

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Speaker 1: so not to not to trigger Evan again him fired up.

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Speaker 1: I think the bailey'sz appy thing is is funny to me.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I do think he like if you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna line up and throw the ball. I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna like the way it looks coming off of Bailey

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Speaker 1: z Appy's hand probably a little better than mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Everything else is so far in a way better for

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Speaker 1: mac Jones, like accuracy, decision making, experience, size, mobility, like

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Speaker 1: there's nothing else. I think that Bailey's appy. When he

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Speaker 1: throws the ball, it spins really tight. I think he

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Speaker 1: throws the ball well, not hard. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: strong arm. I think it might be a little like

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Speaker 1: if he matched it up one on one with mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: his might be he might throw it a little bit

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Speaker 1: more velocity. Hand size at all, hands he's small. I

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Speaker 1: tell you that nine in a quarter. I can look

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Speaker 1: it up. But I mean so when I say that

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Speaker 1: I think he has a better on than mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I want him throwing the ball more

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Speaker 1: than I want Max's throwing. Ye just means I think

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Speaker 1: you throw us a little bit harder than Macca. All right,

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